Why is Latin America a shithole?
spics
we don't post enough anime
americans
>>51556647
Jews are to blame desu
>>51556707
>>51556744
pls don't desu
Populism, commodity export based economy.
>>51556841
... leftism, corruption and shitty education, culture and institutions. I think we've covered everything.
>>51556952
Those are more like consequences of the two I mentioned, except culture.
>>51556647
have you ever had a chori
>>51556841
what is populism ??
sound like a buzzword to me.
>>51557016
Then the commodity export based economy is a consequence of populism as well. At the end of the day, populism and a shitty culture are to blame for the current state of the continent.
>>51556841
the problem isnt that you export commodities, the problem is that you dont tier up that industry
>>51557161
Country leaders throwing money to the people with no regards for the budget or the laws of economics, as well as increasing state control of civil life.
>>51556707
Because of anime and weeaboos
>>51556674
And this
>>51557227
That's why I said it's based on commodity export. The numbers looked great during Lula's presidency, but in reality our industry was stagnant while agriculture, mining, oil represented the bulk of our economic surplus. When commodity prices fell as they always do since they're cyclical, we entered a recession.
>>51557186
but commodity export has been going since the colony.
>>51557227
Brazilian industry already operates at it's limit.
National Brazilian brand products are too expensive to produce due to inefficiency, so exporting them is out of the question.
Cause they aren't White.
>>51557304
>Country leaders throwing money to the people with no regards for the budget or the laws of economics
Funny thing is those "populists" like Correa and Evo have reduced the external debt.
But still I don't get a solid definition for populism. Every person I ask gives me a different answer.
>>51556647
Poeple just want to get money easy and education is viewed as a waste of time.
Fuck this place in general.
Friendly reminder that Argentina used to be the 7th wealthiest country in the world
>>51556744
yes!
>>51557726
that was when chori prices were skyrocketing
>>51557713
>education is viewed as a waste of time
>implying
>>51557696
I don't know about Evo, but didn't Correa default on foreign debts?
>>51556674
this
Chile is okay though desu
>>51557494
the only reason theyre expensive is due to shitty policies though
>>51557517
Got a couple more lad
>>51557517
>>51558013
fugg
>>51557838
What can you possibly know?
Unless you're a proxy.
>>51557696
populism is pandering to the poor people through cheap politics, and mispending state resources.
why? because poor people = easy votes, theyre also easy to manipulate. more poor people = more power to the political class
>>51556647
>Why is Latin America a shithole?: daily edition
>>51557975
Labor cost and components costs being the primary reason.
Unless we use slave labor or produce them in China using Chinese components, there is no way.
Would you be willing to work in a Brazilian sweatshop for 1 dollar a day?
>>51557891
he did it (40% of the debt) back in 2008, because he proved it was illegal. Then he made some clever moves and reduced the debt.
>>51558726
>because he proved it was illegal
Illegal by what standards? Borrowing money and refusing to pay it back is now okay? Isn't that typical of populist leaders?
>>51557696
>Correa and Evo have reduced the external debt.
Nope, Equator's external debt has grown like 50% in the last year.
>>51559501
he made and "auditoria" (I dont know what is the word in english), with lawyers, economists, etc. But is not like the international bank said "yeah ok we are cool", it was a bold move.
>>51559615
50% respect to what?. I mean they reduced the debts in relation of what they received.
>>51559501
Also he made a plan to pay back the part of the debt that was considered legitimate.
>>51560027
>Equator
>Paying debts
"Lo cierto es que Ecuador arrastra una notable historia de impagos de su deuda soberana, la última tan reciente como en 2008, lo que explica que el acceso a la financiación externa no resulte barata. La inversión extranjera directa apenas representó el 0,8% del PIB en 2014 y no basta para cubrir el déficit exterior del paÃs.
"De ahà que el vencimiento de 650 millones de dólares que el Gobierno de Correa debe pagar el próximo 15 de diciembre haya puesto en guardia a los mercados. El Gobierno insiste en que completará el desembolso. Si lo cumple, sostiene Bloomberg, será la primera vez que haga frente a sus obligaciones internacionales en los últimos 180 años.
http://internacional.elpais.com/internacional/2015/11/30/america/1448923590_863019.html
just in January, Equator's external debt grow 31%: Imagine how much it has grown since then (now the country's economy is even shrinking).
>>51558722
I doubt that, im sure the main reason are low economic freedom policies. brazil already has a manufacture industry, it just needs to be geared differently. some of your industry depends on your government to exist, be it through subsidies or contracts, and that make it seem that it would be uncompetitive, but failing to see that if the government didnt do things like obscene tariffs and high corporate taxes, things would be cheaper to produce
thats my opinion though
>>51560027
He might have called his own lawyers and economists, who would have said exactly what he wanted. And how is a debt considered illegal? You borrow money and agree to pay it back with interest. There was surely a fixed contract signed. If you can't (or don't want to) pay it back, you default. What do you think is more likely: an international organization that has deals with hundreds of countries with a reputation to maintain and no personal financial ambissions made a change on that fixed contracted without anyone knowing, or that Correa simply didn't want to pay back what he owed?
>>51560516
>brazil already has a manufacture industry
Which produces cars for wealthy Americans or sold in Brazil for 2x the price.
Industry gets tax exemption already.
>>51560286
No cumplir los plazos no es lo mismo que cancelar la deuda.
>Si lo cumple, sostiene Bloomberg, será la primera vez que haga frente a sus obligaciones internacionales en los últimos 180 años.
So a populist would be the first one to pay the debts in time?. Lets wait and see. It was a bad year. 31% of debt grow is pretty bad. Still our debt is worse for instance.
>>51560558
I dont know about laws. I guess is different if you personally borrow money for yourself, is your problem. But if you are in charge of a country you are playing with money of your population, so I guess they have a case of corruption. But I don't really know, I'm a total noob about laws.
>>51561133
le latin america's left wing is perfectly ok meme
>>51561103
>No cumplir los plazos no es lo mismo que cancelar la deuda.
noo, ¿y qué pasa cuando no se paga una deuda? te quitan tus propiedads, te niegan acceso a créditos y un montón de otras cosas. es la misma cosa.
> Still our debt is worse for instance.
I don't think so, both countries must have similar debt/gdp ratio. But at least Colombia is not in recession like them.
>>51556647
Still better than yours 200yo banan republic with world-policeman ambitions.
>>51561554
el punto es que Correa si redujo la deuda, no simplemente dejo de pagar en el plazo pactado. Claro en el banco mundial no estan felices y por eso Ecuador se pego a china.
Y que suerte que no dependemos tanto del petroleo.
>>51556647
it's not, fuck you picko jedna jebem ti mater
MI SANGRE POR HILO LATINO!!!!!!!!
>>51556647
It's Venezuela's fault
>>51556647
not enough mexican immigrants and cartels, everyone knows they're the best immigrants and each country flooded with them is as successful as norway or denmark
>>51563477
>blame cartels for all latin america fails
what do you say about peru or argentina if they dont have cartels?
>hablandonos en ingles
>>51563764
Corruption and heavily influenced by foreign interests. And i don't primarily blame cartels, i think mexicans are truly disgusting, cartels are just a consequence of mexican barbaric culture
>>51563851
>mexicans
>barbaric
why dont you come over and let us show you our family love ? :^)
>>51563398
Reminder that Macri is populist just like Scioli
>>51564263
>mexicans trying to relate to spain again
probably the weirdest mexican fetish, even fucking indonesia has more to say about its relationship with spain than fucking mexico.
>>51556647
Nothing wrong with them. They are developing countries, they need time to get to your level. If you compare your countries to developing countries then of course it will appear to be shitty.
Very difficult post-independence period.
>>51556744
>>51556674
>>>/oven/
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
(By us i mean uruguay, please dont associate us with any latin american country, they are all brown)
>>51566211
>>51557904
>There people that actually believe this shit
>>51566211
>U r gay
>not quite poor, also, black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2-nYDJHqWk
reminder that not even Syrians want to live there.
>>51556647
>>51566211
>Reminder you are a part of Argentina, everywhere you go people will confuse you with an argie
Besides you have niggers living in your piece of Argentina, we don't.
Embrace macri
>>51566211
>>51570531
Friendly reminder that Cisplatina is a part of Brazil.
>>51570366
>antiyankeeimperialismtugal
The average Native American has a relatively low IQ. Social problems are highly correlated with and rooted in low intelligence. Thus,...
>>51571168
Americans are just as dumb. It's just a matter of being shit on by potencies and having shit governors.
>>51571283
Idk. Break it down by neighborhood or any other political/geographic distinction (city, community). A neighborhood where 80% of the residents have college degrees is going to be way more functional, safer, prosperous, etc. than a neighborhood where 7% of the population is educated.
Same for a country. Just something I've realized lately. Any place's quality of life/safety/etc., is closely tied to the intelligence of its residents. I'm not trying to shit on any ethnicity either, but studies show abstract intelligence does differ along ethnic lines.
>>51571533
Argentina and Uruguay have 96 average IQ (probably didn't test the north/villas), the same as Italy and a lot of European countries.
Correlation does not imply causation
>>51572007
Intelligence isn't the only factor, but it definitely plays a large role in the quality of any given location.
Just based on the info you told me, I'd bet Uruguay and Arg are the best are among the best Latin American countries by most objective metrics.
>latin america
>latin
lel
>>51572184
so autist.
>>51570531
Only 8% of the population is black, also, at least out whites are real whites and not 80% european 20% native americans
>>51572881
?
I was just answering the question posed in the OP, and refining/supporting my point. Don't worry, I shitpost plenty. Just not right this moment.
>>51556647
dont give me that shit nigger, you guys can afford expensive shit for a cheaper price and thats about it, American society is as bad as any other 3rd world country, prove me wrong faggot
>>51575594
>>51573130
>implying your whites are not exactly like the ones from here
The recuerdo que eras parte de Argentina
>>51556647
Because we don't practice circumcision like the Jewish Masterrace and the American Masterrace does.
Accumulation of smegma turns your skin brown, makes your body smell like shit and gives your body a greasy looking.
>>51577313
Nah we are not, unlike you degenerates we actually killed the natives
>>51578271
>uruguay
>white
>>51573560
but these IQ numbers are made up- Also, China is the country with the highest IQ in the World, and it's far from being the most rich/developed.
>>51566211
That meme works only if you've never been there. Shithole looks like you're living in the fucking 30's
>>51578271
and repopulated with negros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjHnUpSufMo
>>51556674
soap
>>51556647
They take after their owner...
(I'm on about spain)
