So does /int/ think about New Zealand possibly changing their flag?
Do you think it will happen?
hope they turn into a leaf
I like the bottom left, it would be a nice and interesting flag for nz
I think that you'll keep the current flag, which thing hurts my autism
fern
>>51537783
If the government force news to say about how oppressive union jack is will change it. But i think it's just waste of money
>>51537816
How about you just shut the fuck up? The fern is a national symbol, unlike a fucking maple leaf. In New Zealand we pride ourselves on good race relations between Pakeha (New Zealand European) and the native Maori people. Paramount to maintaining good relations is choosing national symbols that reflect the evolving racial make up of our wonderful country. Currently, our flag does not represent the maori in anyway and, in fact, symbolized their systematic genocide by using the Union Jack. Untold millions of innocent people have been murdered under the Union Jack in the name of "civilizing those darn natives". By selecting the fern we are choosing a symbol that represents all of us. The fern is a part of New Zealand, they cover this wonderful land of ours. Instead of picking a solely Pakeha, or solely Maori symbol, we are selecting a New Zealand symbol. Can you not see the beautiful nature of this act? I remember when I was in primary school whenever there was a big All Blacks game we'd watch it together, and guess what? We'd always have little black flags with a silver fern on them. We'd watch these modern day warriors represent New Zealand on the world stage and we'd show our support by waving flags of our beautiful Silver Fern. In contrast, whenever we see the Union Jack it invokes disgust in most New Zealanders. We all have some maori relative by 2015, and knowing what that flag means to them is truly vomit inducing. By adapting a new national symbol we hope to embrace the future and hopefully lead the way for Australia to get rid of its racially insensitive flag too. Anyway, your shitty maple leaf is nothing like our fern.
>>51537783
They are all shit 2bh family
Why can't we have a flag that doesn't have the kekstamp, LEAF or gay little stars
The only one that doesn't have any of those looks like some ooga booga African one
>>51537783
>Literally double kekstamped because it has Australia's stars AND the Union Jack
Anything else they choose would be a good choice.
They're all so bad. They could all be improved after 2 seconds in photoshop.
>>51537845
forgot your proxy lad
>>51537845
>>51537858
>>51537895
Do you think it will happen though, the flag change?
LEAVE THE FUCKING FLAG ALONE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Black & White flags
Even the consideration of such flags as serious choices shows that kiwis are incapable of independence
Their constitution must be revoked and they must either become a state of Australia or go back to being ruled by the UK
>>51537940
Nah, doubt it.
>>51537922
Not to sound like a weeb but I find it funny how that guy is dressed like Naruto with a Sasuke plushie fighting for tranny acceptance when the entire Sage Mode Kabuto fight was about accepting who you are instead of trying to change it
I would change it even if I was an anglo-boo just because I wouldn't be considered Australia ALL THE FUCKING TIME
Getting rid of the kekstamp would be a bad idea.
Don't change your flag, lads.
>>51538003
Why?
>>51537940
Probably. John Kek will push for it once people hand in their voting forms again.
I just want to change it so we don't get mistaken for the ausfailians and we lose the brand of submission to the britbongs.
>>51537945
don't you mean leaf the fucking flag alone?
Your cuk flag collection is shrinking while our leaf empire is growing
hehe
>>51537783
All of those are shit.
>>51537783
The bottom right would be best if those stars weren't there
>>51538077
But then we'll have to take on the brunt of the kekstamp posting
Don't
All of them look fucking gay and one looks like all they did was remove a star. Keep it the same those are garbage.
>>51538044
Because you'll be left with a flag that doesn't mean shit. A fucking leaf? Seriously? At least the Red Ensign meant something to us.
>>51538038
No please change, it make our flag look more original
>>51537845
i like leaves
>>51538225
No you fucking don't
>multiple fucking leaves
>>51537940
No, not unless they have a new vote with different designs.
>>51537845
The maple leaf is a national symbol of Canada but it doesn't make it any less stupid.
>>51538132
eheheheahahahaAHAHAHA
That's exactly the point my kekstamped friend!
No longer shall we be lumped in with you by all the memers and shitposters, no more will stupid Americans mix up our flag for yours, and not a single britbong can call us thiers.
We shall walk free to explore a brand new world of flags, of stripes, of kekoldry and memes, with no chains to bind us, no master to answer to, we can do as we please. Keep your shitty starts, hold onto your overlord's stamp, this is the age of a New New Zealand!
>>51538143
>one looks like all they did was remove a star.
Nigga what. That's the current flag.
>>51538355
You don't understand how damaging leaf posting is to the soul
Don't risk it all for a bit of freedom
>>51537783
Just add a fucking fern below the union jack if you don't want to get mixed up with Australia and at the same time not abandon the history that is associated with the old flag.
gezz it isn't so hard
changing the flag because you get mixed up with aus is pretty pathetic tb h.
>>51538408
We don't have any history. Our current flag is busy and gross, I just want something that looks nice. Like the Estonia flag, the peak with those colours would be good.
>>51538461
>We don't have any history
false
>Our current flag is busy and gross
also false and subjective
is there really any other reason to change the flag than getting mixed up with straya
>keep the current flag
muh tradition muh white muh anglo muh jesus muh long live the queen
>change the flag
muh maori muh genocide muh aoteroa muh pakeha muh privileges muh tumblr
If I was a kiwi I'd shoot myself
>>51538355
You'll still be a leaf or 1/4 of a swastika
>>51538557
pay denbts
>>51538590
that's germany's work
>>51538581
>implying a leaf is better than the kuckstamp
I bet you hate freedom you traitorous bastard
>out of all my friends the only ones who want to change the flag are gay
What does this say about you?
>>51538515
>also false and subjective
How can it be false if it's subjective?
>>51538640
I was implying the opposite actually
>>51537783
i think the black and white ones look pretty sweet
>>51537845
WORLD STAR WORLD STAR WORLD STATE
>>51538691
Shit I said better
I meant to type worse
I need to go to bed.
>>51538683
busy and gross
I like the mountain and the swirl. They should change to one of those, it's pleasing on the eyes
>>51538581
Look at this Benedict Arnold faggot
>m-muh jack
If you like it so much get the hell off my 'Murica
Why is New Zealand having a similar flag to Australia a bad thing?
Look at the flags of Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, Finland and Norway.
Look at the flags of Palestine, Jordan, Kuwait, Sudan, Egypt, Syria etc.
Look at the flags of Colombia, Ecuador and Venezuela.
Similar countries that have things in common like history, language, culture etc have similar flags.
Not every country needs its own easily recognisable flag. Canada didn't become recognisable because it changed it's leaf flag but because it was a G8 economy.
Changing our flag wont do shit because the reason people don't know it in the first place is because we're a fucking south pacific backwater of 4.5 million people with no cultural or economic influence whatsoever
>>51538869
don't forget morocco and indonesia, who literally have the exact same flag
>>51538895
>Morocco and Indonesia
>>51538895
monaco you twat
>>51538869
It's not about recognizability, it's about pride.
It's about casting away the wretched chains of colonialism.
It's about a flag for New Zealand to represent New Zealand, not the country that colonized it like some sort of brand on cattle.
It's about liberty
About patriotism
>>51538912
>>51538924
fuck
morocco is green star
im dumb sorry
>>51538869
I'm a real traveler who sows flags on my backpack and I want a cool looking one and anything is better than what you have now
>>51539003
>ITS ALMOST 2016
>not having kyrgyzstan flag on your backpack
ffs anon
red peak desu
We are being bought out by the chinese. soon we'll pretty much be not a country but just a large factory island. that's why I chose the corporate icon looking one
>>51538941
But what you're talking about is the opposite of patriotism in which I throw away everything that makes my country great to appease foreign scum like >>51539003
>>51537845
Agree with this anon, except for the claims of genocide against the Maori people which is a ludicrous claim and the claim millions were murdered under the Union Jack.
>>51539065
>everything that makes my country great
>everything that makes my country great is the fact that we were colonized by Britain
lad...
how much of a cukc can you be?
>>51539058
goddamn chinese piss me off
Koreans are better
Chinese are just smelly communists
>>51537783
I do, and I hope they change it, and I hope you guys change it too.
it has nothing to do with the UK flag, you can keep that, although you have to realize that to the rest of the world, having another country's flag in your flag makes you look like a bit of a c.u.c.k. (don't know if there's filters here)
the white fern on a black background is quite literally the only thing that makes me think of new zealand.
>>51539104
I actually barely see chinese people. Where are they? I live in auckland cbd and I just get koreans who are pretty cool
>>51537783
For the umpteenth time in the umpteenth thread, no it won't. Public opinion in every poll has been against changing it.
Over here now I've seen more people flying our current flag than ever before. Just the other day at the warehouse (our walmart) there were a whole bunch of flag related Christmas decorations, If anything the referendum has made the current flag more popular,
>>51539152
I had an influx in High school
Their parents ship them over here to learn, but they barely speak English so they just sit in groups vegetating.
>>51539095
But it's true. If we were colonized by France we'd be as relevant as New Caledonia.
>>51539190
but muh leaf meme
>>51539152
I hope you are baiting.
I know they are "arr rook same" but there are Chinese people everywhere.
>>51539224
Yet even they have their own flag
And they're literally just a "special collectivity" of France, whatever the fuck that means.
>>51539095
I'm not a kek I am the descendents of British settlers who carved out a first world nation in a land of cannibals in this godforsaken chink infested hemisphere of the planet
Who the fuck are you, some disgusting mutt who speaks English despite not being anglo to call me a kek? This is my language not yours, if your ancestors had half the spine even a worthless neet like me does then you would be speaking their language and not English
Without the crown there would be no New Zealand. Without the Empire there would be no New Zealand. Without Britain there would be no New Zealand.
That UJ isn't something that just belongs to contemporary Brits, it is a symbol of civilisation and liberty to every Englishman, Scotsman and Irishman on the planet. I'm a South Sea Brit and proud, neck yourself republican scum.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN AND GOD DEFEND NEW ZEALAND
>>51539263
nah I'm not being "arr rook same" but you can tell they are chinese because it sounds way harsher than korean imo.
are you chinese?
>>51539360
No I'm not but the top 5 surnames in Auckland having 4 Chinese surnames should give you an idea of the number of Chinese people in Auckland.
Out of personal observation there are a lot of Koreans but I have my doubts as to their number being greater than the number of Chinese people.
>>51538941
>wretched chains of colonialism.
Statements like this show you have zero understand of this country.
What chains? We gained independence reluctantly out of necessity, and Britain were supportive.
>>51539300
I'm not going to lie, I come to these threads because my hot american blood orders me to spread the principles of freedom, liberty and patriotism to the whole world, especially toward our wayward anglo brothers, but pissing off cukks like you is it's own reward.
Stay chained to the precepts of old-world 18th century nationalism all you want, you will never be a brit. The Queen is not a New Zealander, that land doesn't belong to her, and neither does it exclusively belong to anglo-descendants. The Maori are just as much New Zealanders as you are (I mean this in the least liberal way possible, you literally have them on your coat of arms)
Stay thirsty for punishment from a foreign monarch c.u.c.k.monwealth scum.
>>51538941
>wretched chains of colonialism
>>51539300
Beautiful lad. Just beautiful :_:
>>51539494
America so desperately buys into the myth of its own oppression by Britain, that they think everyone else needs saving. Much like a second rate superhero.
>>51537845
Time to force this until it becomes real pasta.
>>51539533
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
>>51539224
If we were colonized by France we would have a cooler flag though, they had the best colonialist flags
>>51539533
The Maori recognize the right of The Crowns ownership of New Zealand. It's what our founding document was about.
If Britain treated us or the Maori really poorly we'd be happy to break the historic ties. As it stands, Maoris were treated well by global standards and the majority of us are all British by ancestry, and our culture developed from British culture.
>>51539577
>t. Bruceberto Bondiosa
>>51539467
I trust the facts, I was just wondering where they are because I rarely see them at school and stuff.
>>51539494
>>51539545
>>51539577
>>51539565
>>51539659
>This excites the cattlewealth immensely
Having historic ties with a country doesn't mean having to brand your flag with theirs.
>>51539740
it's like a tattoo brah.
>>51539740
agreed.
these guys sound like WE WUZ AN EMPIRE AND SHIT
>>51539740
Why not?
>>51539740
> The cattlewealth
I'll have you know that our Dairy industry is nothing to be ashamed of. In fact we have the worlds largest dairy company, so thank you for the compliment.
Take a moment to realize how autistic and butt blasted you would be, all the time, if you were from the USA compared to the glorious Oceanic islands of New Zealand
>>51539830
If I were American I wouldn't know what exists outside of my state
>>51539740
>brand
We are talking about a country, not a company or product.
We don't give a shit about foreigners like you and trying to appeal to you. Our flag is strictly for us. We aren't trying to sell our country or make it marketable. America may be a country that runs on money and power, but NZ isn't, it's always been a country of morals and ideals first. One of the deepest rooted ideals of this country is "don't fix something that isn't broke" and "yeah na fuck that"
Our flag is fine, and while it has little history, that's still more than the zero history and meaning behind those other flags, that represent no ideology, no movement (political or of the people), no great event. Unfortunately all those flags represent is john keys ego wanting to be the guy who changed the flag. Fuck him.
>>51539903
I didn't mean a brand like a market brand.
I mean that the UK brands it's colonies like cattle, and suffocates any attempt at developing a distinct national identity.
>m-muh I descended from the pure british blood
Where's your British passport?
>M-muh ideals
What ideals does the current flag represent? Other than being a British colony and being localized in the southern hemisphere there's nothing. The Silver Fern symbolizes the unity of New Zealand, and it's fighting spirit.
A spirit which makes itself heard, no matter how small a country it is.
A spirit of ingenuity and resourcefulness
A spirit of making due with what you got.
If you knew why the Silver Fern is important, you'd know that.
>>51537956
We didn't pick the flags, we are already independent and we don't have a formal constitution.
>>51540027
>>51539740
oi m8 to make this clear.
Britain doesn't have authority over NZ but the queen does.
the queen technically has power over NZ,Aus,Canada,Falklands AND Great Brittain
They aren't colonies but subjects of the queen as is Great Britain.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
![Polandball[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/UD0nYq0.png "Polandball[1].png")
>>51538895
>>51538912
>>51538924
>>51538980
And Polan.
>>51540027
>suffocates any attempt at developing a distinct national identity
Like I said in another post, NZ only pursued independence out of necessity. Britain has don't nothing to oppose this. You are talking out your ass.
>Where's your British passport?
I have a duel citizenship.
>What ideals does the current flag represent?
Everything NZ has stood for since it has existed. What ideals do the other flags represent?
>If you knew why the Silver Fern is important, you'd know that.
>let me tell you about your country.
Fuck off
I would like to see the flag changed some day, but not like this, for no particular reason but to appease foreigners who have no clue about the culture of this country.
>>51540189
>I have a duel citizenship.
Aha, the perfidious beast rears it's head.
A little close to the topic, aren't we Nigel?
Actiually don't mind the last flag desu.
>>51540250
I can trace my ancestors back to the first colonialist in this country. They were Scottish and Irish by the way, so knock yourself out with the England bashing.
How about you Jamal?
Either way you're obviously running out of steam here, so how about you fuck off to an America general or something where your stupidity will go by unnoticed
>this version didn't make the cut
Legitimately sad tbhfam
>>51537956
LAS NEW ZEALANDS SON AMERICANAS
is the queen knows about it?
>>51540470
no, don't tell her
>>51540388
I see you are wasting your time with the ouiboo shitskin
>>51540470
The queen wont say shit about it other than" just be yourselves"
>>51540388
>They were Scottish and Irish by the way
dont drag us into this
i hate the current NZ flag and all the proposals
the fern isnt even a good leaf like canadas. its shit
>>51540631
why do you feel the need to use a name on an anonymous website?
>>51540631
You're not from NZ, who cares what you hate
>>51537845
Leafs are cool
Also
Moiri Ori.
>>51539467
>the top 5 surnames in Auckland having 4 Chinese surnames
That's because there are a few surnames that are extremely common in China. Compare this to how every other Muslim is named "Muhammad" so it ends up placing that name in the top names lists in Europe.
>>51538461
Estonian flag a shit
>>51538355
Found the perfect flag for ya, lad.
>>51540139
So...people should support your position because of the type of people who support the other position, rather than any reason you can come up with? I'm pretty sure there's a logical fallacy in this...
I actually really like ours and PPs flag, from a design and aesthetics perspective
Way better than any of the new shit that you guys are proposing
>>51540139
>kekstamp
>>51540988
How wrong can one person be? But check'd.
>>51540988
estonian flag is great.
all the great flags are simple.
>>51539565
>America so desperately buys into the myth of its own oppression by Britain, that they think everyone else needs saving. Much like a second rate superhero.
This. So much.
The fact they think they revolted against "the king of England" rather than virtually the only elected government on the planet at the time speaks volumes.
