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Is there "something" after dead, /int/ ?
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Is there "something" after dead, /int/ ?
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memes
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I'm hoping for 72 virgins
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Yes, Australia
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ur moms vagina
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>>51447846
You already got them right here lol XD
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>>51447826
Yes.
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>>51447855
>moms

Fuck off yank
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lets hope not
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>>51447826
Reincarnation brah. You get to live this life all over again!
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>>51447877
>wuf wuf amma asstralian dingo wuf
here boy, calm down
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Death*

It's confirmed that when we are dying we see things, some see the tunnel and light, there is a pattern in the 90% of cases, but that doesn't means anything but that we don't die immediatly.

It might be the "goodbye" screen, making us happy and full of love before stop existing completely and be fully off, or may not.

But the existence of these experiences are obvious.

The fact that the process of the body dead is not painful or suffering makes me kinda alleviate. The problem is before death, not when dying.
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>>51447826
6.431
As in death, too, the world does not change,
but ceases.
6.4311
Death is not an event of life. Death is not
lived through.
If by eternity is understood not endless tem-
poral duration but timelessness, then he lives
eternally who lives in the present.
Our life is endless in the way that our visual
field is without limit.
6.4312
The temporal immortality of the human
soul, that is to say, its eternal survival also
after death, is not only in no way guaranteed,
but this assumption in the first place will not
do for us what we always tried to make it do.
Is a riddle solved by the fact that I survive for
ever? Is this eternal life not as enigmatic as our
present one? The solution of the riddle of life in
space and time lies outside space and time.
(It is not problems of natural science which
have to be solved.)
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>>51447868
underrated
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>>51447924
>But the existence of these experiences are obvious.
the people saying it do so in an effort to convince themselves that there is something to live for, or to justify their religious beliefs
for example, why would you see anything when getting shot in the head?
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>>51447826
I'm entirely convinced that I'm never going to die, being that I'm the only conscious being in the universe and that everyone else is just a philosophical zombie that's created to eventually be destroyed.
Such questions are not a concern to me.
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>>51447970
considering that you would lose consciousness after dying there wouldn't be time for you to be convinced otherwise, you just won't experience anything, so it doesn't really matter if your consciousness 'dies' or not
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>>51447826
>Live after death
Oxymoron
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>>51447924
The "tunnel of light" thing as been solved by Jean Petitot's research already. It corresponds to a stable pattern created by ganglion neurons when they are isolated and loop back on themselves.
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Just aks yourself who am i?
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>>51447970
>solipsism

nice bait
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Whatever the answer is, you're guaranteed know sooner or later. It's the only thing this universe does guarantee to you. Until then, try not to think about it.
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>>51447970
>, being that I'm the only conscious being in the universe and that everyone else is just a philosophical zombie that's created to eventually be destroyed.

pretty sure thats me, bruv
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>>51447963
Dude there are extended medical studies about it, it's existence isn't discussed but it's nature is.

Also the fact that human brain has somehow a "goodbye" animation is kinda awesome
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>>51448040
maybe
that is if your head remains intact the moment you die
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>>51448040
see >>51448014

You can even artificially recreate it.
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how the fuck am I supposed to know
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>>51448014
Yes, but that happens in a technical death, and then people revives again and tell us how he was conscious about it.

My question is, how long after death does our consciousness remain active? How can our brain be collapsing and we as individuals be still able to think and be conscious? Not saying any spiritual thing, just I'm curious about how does our brain die.
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>>51447826
immortality

You are right now in a void in which you are helpless and scared.You are still dependent on time.

Time Never Dies.
When you die you become time.

t. demon
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There is nothing after death
Death stops your pain of life, the sad thing is death also stops all the wonderous and beautiful things in life you've come to appreciate, when you die it isn't that you should embrace death with open arms, but you should embrace the fact that you felt love, you felt mateship, you had a favourite food, a favourite spot in the park you went to regularly, all the occasions that people were kind to you, even the moments when you weren't the happiest and felt hardship were the times that shaped you and made you appreciate the good things in life even more.

Death is magical, in that it seems the only time when you can truly gather everything that is beautiful in your life in a single train of thought, someone mentioned earlier itt about a tunnel of light people often see, I don't want to think of it as a tunnel because when dying I'm not going anywhere, life itself is that tunnel.
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>>51448170
>t. demon

pretty sure ur just a fyromian bruv
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>>51448038
Prove it :^)
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>>51447826
>>51448038
>>51448226
WHO
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>>51448233
im the only one writing shit right now :^)

>>51448244
some chick from my fb
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Life goes on without you while you decompose. Then not long after that most people will forget you even existed and the few people that do remember that you existed will die also.
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>>51447826
i'd like to think there is. if your current consciousness came from nothing why won't it happen again? maybe it already happened before and you just don't remeber it.
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>>51448276
She's delicious anon. Post more :)
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>>51448319
>Post more

Which one?
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>>51448190
Or say fuck you for giving me a birth in Russia.
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After you die a midget beats you with a stick for all eternity while you lie lied up in a bathtub.
Unless you take more than one baths in your lifetime than day you've lived.
These dubs confirm it.
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You go to heaven.
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>>51447826
Is there "something" before?
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>>51448415
>You go to heaven.

But whatt if you are catholishit?
I dont think heretics go to heaven...
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>>51448514
But then how can you be sure that your faith is the true one and their's isn't?
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>>51448528
I just know it, pham
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>>51448366
Why do you say this? Is there nothing in your life that makes you happy at all? What is it about your life in russia that you don't like?
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>>51448543
Yeah good answer.
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>>51448559
Are you serious nigga?
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>>51448543
I wanna fight with you!
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>>51448528

>yfw atheist people who have a near death experiences become the most hard christians in the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vj0qKthCgg
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>>51448651
Come at me, bruv
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>>51447826
There's afterlife of course.
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>>51448543
cant look like a bigger wizard if you tried.
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>>51448626
What? What does that picture mean? Poverty? I have been poor in the past and even then I have found things that make me happy.
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>>51448626
Do you know main secret of this world?
Nothing outside can make you happy. Happyness inside.
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Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uiYp8xKjLM
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>>51448651
>I wanna fight with you!
You mean together?
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>>51447844
How r u alive faggot? Did papa Putin kill you already, you hohol piece of shit. I hope you like all that lard, fat ass.
Enjoy the long winter.
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>>51448747
>You mean together?

Unfortunately, no more lad
The kikes in our government hate you now
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>>51448697
You make wrong decision.
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>>51448668
>Another one of those videos
Let me take a wild guess here: He has a near death-experience, probably actually dies for a short period of time, DMT kicks in, he sees some weird shit and takes that as objective evidence that hell exists?
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>>51448792
Lmao,i bet your priests dont even wear Rolex and drive Maybachs, you fuckin pleb
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>>51448710
Depressive surroundings. Everything here makes you depressed.
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>>51448792
shit, wrong pic
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>>51448850
Yap.
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>>51448718
Wealth/climatw directly correlates with suicide ratings. It's a fact.
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Go on a really heavy mushroom trip if you wanna know.
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>>51447826
Judgement
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>>51448799
yeah but i was just posting how this things can completely change a person

he really was what he says he was before that
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>>51448799

My uncle had a short clinical death from a stroke , he claim he was in the netherlands for a few minutes and being dead is the most peaceful feeling he has ever felt.
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>>51448885
o-oy vey
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>>51448856
I live in a concrete jungle man, your surroundings are what you make of it, why don't you focus on the people in your surroundings instead of what you perceive to be depressive, there is love everywhere, its there for the taking.
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>>51448966
Easy.
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>>51447826
yup
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>>51448932
>he claim he was in the netherlands for a few minutes

Damn, thats a shitty place to be when you die
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>>51448972
People are shit here full of hatered.
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>>51448928
It's a fifteen minute video, if you think I'm watching all that because someone on 4chan wants me to, you're very much mistaken. But yes, I have absolutely no doubt it would change a person. Tramatic experiences tend to drag the religion out in people. Every born again I've ever known ended up that way because a religious institution caught them in a moment of mental fragility.
>>51448932
There are all kinds of experiences that people have with it and they vary enough that it's difficult to say any one way or the other. There was a prominent businessman here in Australia that died on the operating table and was revived. Afterward he told people that he saw absoultely nothing when he died. But good luck getting somebody that believes to take that as a hint that maybe they don't have all the answers to a mystery like death.
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>>51448886
More sun=less brains.
What is happyness?
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>>51448966
>>51449010

well, i guess thats the main difference:
>catholic priests enjoy fucking underage boys
>orthodox prests enjoy Rolex watches and s-classes
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>>51449017
He didnt exactly have a honorable man's life to be honoest.

Be he says he's no longer afraid to die because he is certain that death is not th end.
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>>51448886
Just subterfuge for you.
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>>51449052
So what does this tell you about christ's followers?

Damn no wonder jesus doesnt want to return, I'd be embarrassed to return to my flock seeing what a bunch of faggots they've become.
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>>51449022
Greentext your life story and where you're at now. Your life cannot be as shitty as you make it out to be.
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>>51449164
>So what does this tell you about christ's followers?

about your average believer?
not much, really
but it tells me a lot about people with power...
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>>51449010
Literally a Pharisee
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>>51447868
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>>51449011
God bless you anon
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>>51449011
A single mum with too many kids? I don't think I want any of that.
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>>51448932
Yes.
There is no more mind with it's problems. Ultimate freedom.
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The thing that bothers me about consciousness (i.e. life) after death is how brain damage factors in
If a normal person suffered a blow to the head causing severe brain damage and ergo retardation, what would be the intelligence of his spirit?
Furthermore, what of people born retarded?
What I'm getting at is that our consciousness is tied to the "quality" of our brain (because our emotions, feelings and thoughts are all caused by physical things; chemicals and electricity), so what happens when the brain is removed from the equation?
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>>51449470
>implying the soul is in the brain
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>>51449501
Well the only explanation I can think of is that the soul is an entirely different entity from consciousness.
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>>51449470
I do not get your english.
but. No thouths = is pure consciousness. Yes.
consciousness is not the body and brain
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>>51449501
Where else would it be faggot. Soul is a human invention.
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>>51449501
Does soul exist?
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>>51449562
thats what i tend to believe

>>51449587
you are a muslim, you dont have soul anyway

>>51449614
i believe it does, what else makes us different than trees/animals/muslims?
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>>51449614
Who are you?
Body? You know this is not true. Not complete true.
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>>51449470
your body is just a vessel that follows the laws of biology including the brain.

The soul is just a driver of this vessel, on a ride that never ends

>happens when the brain is removed from the equation?

pic related
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>>51449682
>Who are you?
>Body?
Why not?
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We all ARE THE SAME person.
And you are know who is he. :D
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>>51449844
>he
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>>51449866
IT
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>>51449844
Well. If you it's me, I want to slap you with my penis.
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>>51449667
I think I get it.
Consciousness occurs from the union of body and soul.
Since body and soul are two different entities, the their existance can be independent from each other
The body is the corporeal part, and the soul is the surreal part
Or some shit like that
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>>51449901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbfzahtZsN8
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You'll find out eventually. Stop worrying.
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>>51449927
He is matrix agent. :D
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>>51448014
I'm just curious how people who are under anesthesia and cardiac arrest who should have no conscious experience are able to have a conscious experience minutes into their death.
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>>51449901
Why? O_o
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>>51449927
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDvI99kOEwU
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>>51449470
While I don't really subscribe to the afterlife theory I think your reasoning is a little bad, with all due respect. Assume that your brain is like a radio and consciousness is the signal the radio picks up. If you damage the radio, the quality of sound/ how it plays is going to not be as great as one that isn't broken, but that still wouldn't take away from the signal being a completely different thing that is unaffected.
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>>51450122
That's a pretty good way to put it.
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>>51449667
>You are muslim
Nice assumption poof
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>>51450161
>dat half naked loli painting

well at least I know wut ur doing in indonesia
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>>51450205
They're not naked, look again.
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>>51447826

Yes, eternal silent blackness
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>>51449667
>what else makes us different than trees/animals/muslims
We have logic and speech
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>>51450610
>speech
>>51450025
>>51449927
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