>sweedin
You're kidding right?
>2015
>being anti-gay
>>51434372
>same sex activities legal since 1971
finland more like fingay
>>51434518
>USA: same sex marriage
>Finland: no same sex marriage
>amerifags
>>51434334
Why is being gay acceptable but being pedo isn't?
>>51434890
You can be a pedo. Just don't touch them kids.
>>51434890
Because children cant consent.
>>51435418
Sure they can, depending on the individual kid and her age. Maybe not 6 yo, but 11 should be fine. As long as you aren't physically hurting her that is (do oral instead).
Besides, it's not just fucking kids, it's also fapping to pictures of them that's illegal in places like united kekdom. And not just real kids, drawn kids as well. Why?
>>51437063
>drawn kids as well
That's the only thing you've mentioned that I think ought to be legal.
>>51435202
but IRL even people who've never even come close to touching a kid or harming one in any way whatsoever, but who happen to be pedos or even ephebos are heavily stigmatized and treated as criminals.
How can we be sure that's somewhere in Sweden? For all we know you made it up just like the weapon of mass destruction craps.
Nej, nej! Sweden will never succumb to homosexuals and homosexuality. Despite being gay myself, I don't want any govt to pamper gays too much. Don't allow them in politic and never allow them to gain control over something/anything important your country.
inb4:
>Omg! You're such a self-hating faggot.
>>51437130
Why just that?
>>51435418
>>51437063
There are two definitions of pedophilia: scientific and sociolegal.
You can't be a pedophile if you're attracted to minors aged 12 or older according to the scientific definition. The sociolegal definition varies by country (here, the age of consent is 14) and also applies to the sexual acts themselves.
>>51437063
>11 should be fine
>>51437857
You live in a country where the age of consent used to be 10-12, with a notable exception wherein it was 7.
>>51437558
That's definitely in Sweden.
I seriously could not give a shit.
If it makes someone happy, hooray.
>Dont allow them in politic
I dont understand this logic at all however. Should Obama not be able to run for president because he's black? It's not like he's pushing "FREE FRIED'CHICKIN BAMA-RAMA-CARE".
I could not care less about what some old dude wants to take to bed.
>>51437740
I know that 11 is hebe by definition, but that's irrelevant to the point I'm making. You pork someone under the AoC and you're getting jailtime, regardless of whether it's pedo, hebe or ephebo. That is immoral.
>>51437857
Thereabouts, yes. Depending on the individuals and circumstances.
>>51437989
The thing with the sociolegal definitions is that setting them based on an arbitrary value is worthless because psychological maturity isn't directly related with age. You can't obviously argue that very young children are capable of consenting but teenagers as early as 12 should have the legal rights to consent if they're ready. If they don't consent, then it's rape.
>>51437909
If she is old enough for period, old enough for consent!
>>51437063
>but 11 should be fine
Finland's famous amorality, on display.
>>51434334
The lack of a mosque proves this picture hasn't been taken in Sweden. Stop bullying Sweden now.
>>51438190
If her age is not on the clock, she's ready for the cock! :^)
By the way, here's a list of historical ages of consent in multiple countries: https://web.archive.org/web/20150929031111/http://chnm.gmu.edu/cyh/teaching-modules/230?section=primarysources&source=24
Most of the US had an AoC of 10 in 1880.
>>51438212
What's with Finland and fucking axe murderers.
Jesus.
>>51438157
Exactly my point.
>>51437063
>it's also fapping to pictures of them that's illegal in places like united kekdom
No it's not, owning or distributing them is.
>Why?
because action follows thought, people in possession of CP (or those who view it regularly) are significantly more likely to be RL offenders
>>51438212
>noargumentistan
>>51438573
>because action follows thought
I'm sure you have evidence to back it up.
>>51438328
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_%28Finnish_law%29
>In recent cases, the Finnish Supreme Court has not considered a single axe stroke on the head, or strangulation to be "especially brutal or cruel". On the other hand, causing death by jumping on a person's chest and head and firing over 10 times upon a person's torso have been considered to fulfill the standard.
>>51438618
>requiring proofs for such a fundamental concept
Nitpick all you want, it won't make cp any less depraved.
>>51438573
Are you saying you can freely browse the darkwebs and fap to cp? If so, what point is there in having possession be illegal?
>because action follows thought, people in possession of CP (or those who view it regularly) are significantly more likely to be RL offenders
Which is why everyone who plays GTA goes on murderous rampages, and anyone who reads rape fiction goes and sticks it somewhere it doesn't belong.
Fuck your thought crime, kekmaster.
>>51438797
>people who watch violent movies/play violent games, etc. are violent and want to commit violent crimes
It's the exact same flawed logic. And it's false, by the way.
>>51438806
>wah wah don't take away muh vidya
CP is different, it is corrupting and if you are honestly defending it then please remove yourself from existence.
>>51434890
don't worry kid diddler
it's only a matter of time and you sick fucks will have your day as well
>>51438978
>violent movies that depict murder and other heinous things aren't corrupting
>implying people consent to being beaten or murdered
Either all these "bad things" are "evil" in the same way or they aren't. You cannot simply cop out like this because your arguments are logically fallacious.
>>51438806
To make CP you need children in the first place, you seriously can't be deluded enough to think that children should be anywhere near the sex industry right? Beyond degeneracy.
>>51439130
Pornography is different from other forms of entertainment. As I said, nitpick all you want but cp is degenerative and should be illegal.
>>51439350
>Pornography is different from other forms of entertainment.
In what way?
>>51434509
>>51439377
It stimulates a more primal part of our psyche.
>>51439377
Games, movies, anime. These make us passive and satisfied.
Sexual desire makes human beings behave like mad beasts.
>>51439458
>>51439876
Maybe it's just me but I don't feel the difference. Perhaps I'm just desensitized.
>>51439192
What if kids take pictures of themselves and upload them? You're still a criminal for saving the pictures.
Sex industry != cp.
And there's nothing wrong with kids being involved with sex industry, just as long as it's not abusive and the kids agree to it.
there is literally nothing wrong with being gay
>>51440132
Kill yourself
>>51440158
no u
>>51440132
fucking degenerate
>>51440209
All that delicious chocolate cake.
>>51440218
t. Jamal al-Gomez
>>51440272
t. le current year man
>>51437857
if theres grass on the field play ball
>>51434334
Geijer is pronounced "gay-er"
Literally "gayer street"
>>51440737
>ewww gay people are icky
how come theres always one polish kek?
>>51440923
>just le be yourself XDD
>>51437558
Avenyn in Göteborg, the building right across the street is the library
>>51439876
>Sexual desire makes human beings behave like mad beasts.
Spotted the bitter virgin.
>>51441183
>I hate gay people
>goes on 4chan
Why do you care? I know theres not much else to do in slavistan anyways.
>no source post 2000
>half of those neocon surveys
>half are just raw data
>>51441325
>muh le ebul neocons boogeyman be lying and shieeet
>we didnu nuffin
>>51441458
>he can only respond in memes
>f-fuggin fags, destroyin muh tradishuns
Hello my crossboarding friend
>>51441325
>>51441506
Did the little fag get his feels hurt? I'd call you butthurt as well but being butthurt is a part of life for you.
>>51441506
>he can only respond with "it's le okay to be le gay XDDD"
>4chan is totally for gays, I'm totally not a retarded fucking tumblrfag
>>51441458
>traditioninaction
>all of those references from over twenty years ago
>all sources are accurate and not at all biased
Off yourself.
>memeing with greentext that hard
See above.
>>51441569
>being le 2015 cukknadian faggot
>hurr muh le bad sources, where is link to dailykos
go fuck yourself
>>51441529
>he responded, therefore he must be butthurt
You certainly shot down my posts
>>51441556
>everyone who disagrees is tumblr
>half the site is for faggots
are you new?
>>51441638
>more memes and ad hominem
Are you going to say anything worthwhile or just continue to shitpost about politics?
>>51441730
you're not in place to decide what's worth anything mr. current year
>>51441569
>>51441722
>>51441730
Yeah, tell him Trudeu, it's 2015, old studies need not apply
>An official with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced the CDC's estimate Monday that in the United States AIDS is fifty times more prevalent among men who have sex with men ('MSM') than the rest of the population. Dr. Amy Lansky revealed this statistic during a plenary session at the 2009 HIV Prevention Conference in Atlanta.
>The CDC had already revealed last year that approximately 53% of the estimated 56,300 new HIV cases in 2006 were in homosexual men, with the African American population being particularly affected.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/aids-rate-50-times-higher-in-homosexual-men-center-for-disease-control
>Recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) show that 1 in 5 sexually active gay and bisexual men in America are HIV-positive but that 44% of them don’t know it.
>More than 8,000 self-identifying gay and bisexual men (or, as the researchers call them, MSM, for men who have sex with men) were tested by CDC workers in the 21 American cities with the highest infection rates. The gay population in Baltimore had the highest rates of HIV infection, at 38%, while Atlanta scored lowest, at 6%.
http://healthland.time.com/2010/09/26/study-20-of-homosexual-men-are-hiv-positive-but-only-half-know-it/
>>51441638
>dont listen to those meme sites, listen to these ones instead
>>51441815
>I don't have any counter arguments
>oh, I know! LE MEMES XDDD
>>51434518
Bruhhh homosexuality has been legal here for nearly a century. Only Commies, Africans, and Islamofascists illegallize gay sex.
>>51441815
>pic
You and your gay buddy? Statistically speaking there's a 50% chance one of you has AIDS. Top fucking lel. "Normal" people.
>Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs) have been rising among gay and bisexual men, with increases in syphilis being seen across the country. In 2013, gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men accounted for 75% of primary and secondary syphilis cases in the United States.
>Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men are 17 times more likely to get anal cancer than heterosexual men.
http://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/std.htm
>>51441795
I wonder why so many fags have HIV.
>http://www.homohetero.at/info/do-all-gays-have-aids/en/
>http://std.about.com/od/glbtcommunity/a/Why-Do-Gay-Men-Have-An-Increased-Risk-Of-Hiv.htm
>http://consumer.healthday.com/sexual-health-information-32/homosexuality-news-386/biology-leaves-gay-men-highly-vulnerable-to-hiv-study-666884.html
>>51441787
>arguing that Canadians can't speak because of memes and an insane PM
Are you alright?
>>51441795
>HIV is much more common with blacks and homosexuals
Pretty sure that's well known, what of it?
>>51441935
>>51441969
>it's normal to fuck another man's ass so what if chances are my partner has AIDS and the chances of me getting AIDS and other STD's are so high it's almost unavoidable
>it's all normal bruh it's 2015
Can't make this shit up.
>discussion went overboard as soon as the Polish guy started posting
Not cool, man.
>>51441969
>wahhhhhh someone tells me my opinion isn't always correct and relevant, I can't speak!!!
>>51437063
>11
Way too old 2bh
>>51442018
>what are condoms
all of this shit in almost 3 to 4 threads bc of one picture
>>51442018
Can you get to the point?
>Homosexuality is normal
I never said this. Try again.
>2015, can't make this shit up xd
More memes that definitely make it look like you're serious.
>>51442089
Quit backpedaling, "your opinions aren't always correct" is not
>you're not in place to decide what's worth anything
Get over yourself, my man.
>>51441325
>>51442144
Too bad all the "normal" people who fuck each other's asses never heard of them, eh?
Maybe homosexuals are just retarded and can't understand the message the rest of the population got? Or maybe there's another way to explain why over 50% of all HIV cases are due to homosexuals and over 75% cases of syphilis are due to homosexuals while they themselves form perhaps 5% of the population AT BEST with the number likely being half that.
So, according to you the only logical conclusion is that homosexuals are mentally challenged and simply are unable to take care of themselves.
>they are unable to even protect themselves.
>they should be able to adopt kids
pick one
>>51442203
>those studies are old (literally it's 2015!: the argument)
>is faced with modern studies
>chimps out over meme's
>>51442144
>>51442296
>http://www.nationalsexstudy.indiana.edu/
>According to the study’s findings, 1 of 4 acts of vaginal intercourse are condom protected in the U.S. (1 in 3 among singles).
>http://www.lifestyles.com/study-young-people-use-condoms-only-50-percent-of-the-time/
>http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/04/why-still-so-few-use-condoms/275301/
>>51442473
>muh cherrypicked images from shitty forums
>>51442510
>Muh no true bugchaser fallacy
I personally don't care about gays as long as they aren't faggots and demand special privileges. Milo is based as fuck.
Homosexuals will die second in the upcoming racewar.
>>51442296
>those studies are old
If they were just old, I wouldn't really care. The fact that the ones in that image were when at the time the subject was barely explored and people were heavily biased against (although now I suppose it's the other way around) on the topic.
>modern studies - chimps out
What? I never even claimed that the studies were wrong. You already tried to put words in my mouth before by claiming that I said homosexuality was normal, why are you bothering with lying again?
>>51442510
>not even trying to make a coherent argument any more
>literally posts contradictory data in his "sources"
>ignores the vast majority of heterosexual partners have sex within an established relationship.
>ignore the fact about homosexuals having several more partners, more common open relationships and in general a less healthy life stall as merely the act of fucking an ass hole is in itself unhealthy.
"MERELY A COINCIDENCE"
>Heterosexuals: 66 percent of first marriages last ten years or longer, with fifty percent lasting twenty years or longer.
>Male Homosexuals: In a survey of 7,862 homosexuals, only 15 percent describe their current relationship as having lasted 10 or longer, with five percent lasting more than twenty years. "Typical gay city inhabitants spend most of their adult lives in short-term commitments of less than six months."
>Male Homosexuals: The average male homosexual has 30 lifetime partners and as many as hundreds of sex partners. Bell and Weinberg found that 43 percent of white male homosexuals had sex with 200 or more partners, with 28 percent had 300 or more sex partners. Most homosexual men understood sexual relations outside the relationship to be the norm and viewed adopting monogamous standards as an act of oppression.
>>51442662
>I never even claimed that the studies were wrong.
Nah, you just disputed the original poster and told him to kill himself because you didn't like the content of them
Homosexuals are far from being a normal population group, and anyone telling you otherwise is full of shit.
>all the anti-pedos gave up on arguing back
Such a hollow victory.
>>51442826
It's like homosexuals are discouraged from forming long-term relationships or something!
>>51442965
Yeah, like lol, they're not allowed to have a relationship because the Police shows up and breaks them up amirite
>>51442826
>One longitudinal study involving gay couples found that at the end of 12 years, these unions had a slightly lower break-up rate than the divorce rate for heterosexual couples. Other survey efforts have found that both gay and straight men and women have had a similar number of partners.
I can post unsourced statistics too
>>51443081
Bell and Weinberg
Meanwhile what you have is "other surveys" and covering your eyes and ears.
>2% of the population is responsible for the majority of STD's
>we dindu nuffin
>>51443453
>“. . . given the variety of circumstances which discourage homosexuals from participating in research studies, it is unlikely that any investigator will ever be in a position to say that this or that is true of a given percentage of all homosexuals.”
I really like these sources from the 70s
>>51443654
>it's not true!!!
>they're just discouraged!!
>literally ignores federal agencies providing statistical data
COME ON ITS 2015!
>>51443717
>theyre just discouraged
the study itself literally said this
>literally ignores federal agencies providing statistical data
Its called sex education dumbass. Even gays admit theres an HIV problem, thats why they need to know more about the risks and safe sex. You posted raw data without thinking about why or what can be done about it
>>51443817
>the study itself literally said this
Oh, your made up study, nice
>Its called sex education dumbass. Even gays admit theres an HIV problem, thats why they need to know more about the risks and safe sex. You posted raw data without thinking about why or what can be done about it
Yeah, poor gay people just need education to not be 50 times more likely to be represented in HIV cases and literally forming the vast majority of STD cases.
Poor gays, they're just stupid.
>>51440737
>let's regulate everyone's personal lives according to my moral standards
It seems communism is deeply ingrained in the polish people.
>>51443876
>Oh, your made up study, nice
>I-it doesnt exist
The quote was from the study you quoted dumbass
>Yeah, poor gay people just need education to not be 50 times more likely to be represented in HIV cases and literally forming the vast majority of STD cases.
Yes actually. If they learn how to not bareback they wont get aids. that simple
>>51444150
>The quote was from the study you quoted dumbass
No, it was not, but thanks for trying!
>Yes actually. If they learn how to not bareback they wont get aids. that simple
So, they are retards?
Cool. Thanks for the (you)'s, faggot, stay butthurt.
>>51444217
>No, it was not, but thanks for trying!
It actually was though. Search my quote
>So, they are retards?
Inherently, no. Culturally, yes. Gay culture, like black culture, needs to be changed, but gays are not by default dangerous degenerates
>Cool. Thanks for the (you)'s, faggot, stay butthurt.
desu you seem more butthurt more than anyone
>>51444352
>It actually was though. Search my quote
Except it wasn't. Again, nice try!
>Inherently, no. Culturally, yes.
Except you're wrong, inherently fucking a man's ass is more dangerous. Who would have thought sticking your dick and a shit hole is more dangerous? Apparently not faggots.
>desu you seem more butthurt more than anyone
I'm not the fag in this conversation who's argument basically boils down to "those studies are all wrong because of my feels and it's 2015"
>>51444651
>didnt even try to search
wew lad
>Except you're wrong, inherently fucking a man's ass is more dangerous. Who would have thought sticking your dick and a shit hole is more dangerous? Apparently not faggots.
So what? If theyre gay its their choice. they need to take greater precautions but it shouldnt prevent them from doing what they want
>I'm not the fag in this conversation who's argument basically boils down to "those studies are all wrong because of my feels and it's 2015"
What was your arguement? You posted statistics and argued against them. you didnt give any kind of proposal of what to do about the problem. And yes outdated studies are generally less trustable than newer ones
>>51438573
>because action follows thought
Thank you based thought police
>>51438290
What's your point faggot?
It's not remotely close to 10 or 11 or any of that now. It's 17 or 18 because they know kids can't consent and won't let dumbasses like you touch kids without getting arrested. Now go back to your loli porn like the sad fuck you are
>>51450201
I think the point he was making is that the law used to be good and now it's fucked up.
Hey chaps, what the fucking t. means?
I really hate your autistic memes.
>>51434509
top notch mate
>>51450679
Short for terveisin, Finnish for regards
>>51434334
More homosexual men means more pussy for us straight men, I wish all males were homos but me.
Homosexuals aren't a problem, if Steven and Johan wanna suck eachothers dicks in their bed at night I don't really care.
Islam is the enemy of Europe, not fags.
>>51437969
Actually, that's basically what Obama's doing. He also wants to give free shit to anyone who can illegally enter America, and to a bunch of muslims. He's doing anything that will expand his party's voter base, at the cost of the country's infrastructure and the safety of its citizens.
>>51434607
What are you talking about? Same sex marriage is legal in Finland.
>>51434607
>>51450849
Oh wait, it isn't now but will be in a few years. My mistake.
>>51450775
>ITT: White people argue about who the bigger faggot is
>protip: the answer is "white people"
