>To defeat IS, the president (Obama) said last month there has "got to be a change a government,"
Who the fuck does America think they are that they get to decide such things? They should have ZERO sway on the leaders of foreign countries. Especially one where almost all the citizens hate American government.
America is a really shitty and selfish world """""leader"""""
To defeat IS they must change the government that fights against IS?
sounds legit
s-sorry ;__;
Its the jews masterplan, m8
>>51123761
fuck you
>>51123761
fuck you
>>51123894
based macedonia
>>51123631
>Responsible for starting the Syrian Civil War and has countless acts of crime against humanity
Removing him could restore order and bring us a step closer to defeating IS
>>51123920
I'm really pissed off tonight.
>>51123945
Edgy.
>>51123894
>>51123914
No fuck you
>>51123952
why? what happened?
>>51123952
you were posting in the other thread. glad some people are not some american imperialism lovers
>>51123993
FUCK. YOUUUUUUUUU
>>51123993
I thought you knew English. It says fuck YOU.
>>51123993
rude
>>51123761
fuck you
this thread is really rude
>>51123971
fuck you
>>51123631
>how dare the American president wants a country ruled by a corrupt, selfish dictator to become a democracy
Really, I can understand hating some U.S. Foreign politics, but how does this make us selfish and shitty?
>>51124076
fuck you
>>51124106
fuck you
>>51124106
Nsa pls go
>>51124009
Like the Chile bro said, I was in the other thread. These American fuckers are trying to overthrow the government in Macedonia right now. I just hope there won't be some fucked up stuff going on next year.
>>51124095
fuck you
>>51124106
fuck you
Goddamn it, fuck you all.
>>51124106
how is assad corrupt and selfish and how is sharia law democracy?
>>51123631
Take off your proxy, Zhang. The Australian government agrees with us.
>>51124171
>>51124171
fuck you
>>51123761
fuck you
>>51123920
He's a Serb.
>I support a tyrant who mass-murders his people because he opposes US foreign policy
>>51124260
fuck you
The Saudis and Jews are offering infinite blowjobs to Obama if he takes out Assad. They're terrified of him coming back to power.
>>51123631
When such state becomes a worldwide threat of course other nations can have a say.
>>51124260
hahahahahahaha
just fucking kill yourself already
>>51124285
fuck you
>>51124152
>These American fuckers are trying to overthrow the government in Macedonia right now
what's happening? elaborate pls
Fuck someone
>>51124285
>I support a tyrant who mass-murders people
Ameriboo get out
>>51123761
Fugg u :DDDD
>>51124285
I don't recall Bashar Assad mass-murdering people, perhaps you're thinking of his father.
>>51124285
if by "his people" you mean jihadi terrorists, yes
>>51124311
> said the known Serb proxyfag
>>51124301
>Syria
>a worldwide threat
nigga u dumb
>>51124179
when did I ever say that sharia law is better than a dictatorship? I don't want Syria under sharia law, I want them to be a normal, regular representative democracy like most of Europe and the Americas. Also no one person should be able to rule a country, I know the U.S. Installed some dictatorships in the past, and I'm not defending my country, but I myself will never support a country ruled by a dictator.
>>51124357
Well, he did use gunships against protesters who wanted fair elections.
>>51124336
Fuck me
>>51124387
You do realize that the government supports dictatorships around the world right?
>>51123631
>America
They've been fucking shit up for more than half a century, no surprise there.
That said, Assad is not sustainable anymore. If the West had rallied to his side during the first few months things might have been different, but now there's no hope to ever get this country back to stability under his banner. Radical incisions are needed but every kind of reasonable intervention just threatens to make it worse, so I really don't know how to untangle this mess.
>>51124422
I'd fuck you. :3
>>51124387
>I want them to be a normal, regular representative democracy
Oh okay, well you're going to have to import hundreds of thousands of secular first worlders first.
>>51124323
Well the opposition party here is connected with Foundation Open Society which is founded by Soros, who we all know who is connected to. And they want a so called "transitional" government which will fuck us all. 2016 is gonna be a fucked up year.
>>51123631
That worked so well all the other times.
>>51124387
I prefer a secular dictatorship that protects the minorities, gives rights to women and fights against IS than the jihadists who are trying to overthrow it
a representative democracy is more likely to come from that secular dictatorship than the sharia law state the rebels you want to help want to establish
>>51124387
>dictators are inherently bad
I wish America was isolationist again
>>51124152
Sorry Macebro :(
>>51124422
Hot
>>51124536
This. I want this meme to end
>>51124522
when are the national elections there?
Nobody likes armed missionaries.
>>51124547
>Sorry Macebro :(
It's not your fault entirely. We're lucky that there are reasonable people left here, otherwise we'd fucked already.
>>51124384
It is when terrorists can infiltrate countries posing as refugees.
>>51124612
April next year.
>>51123631
>Who the fuck does America think they are
>They should
hahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha
>We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors, and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.
>>51124631
They're ISIS, not Syrian or even FSA
>>51124631
And replacing the guy suppressing the terrorists while supporting the """""moderate"""" """freedom""" ""fighters"" is the solution, right?
>>51124705
Our country was not founded on an empire. If the founding fathers saw this shit...
>>51123761
Thanks Obama
>>51124752
The Syrian government isn't even going after rebel/opposition forces in the vast majority of the country.
That's how fucking incompetent they are.
>>51124757
>muh founding fathers
>>51124757
things change over time.
>>51124812
You guys are taking your time too for some reason.
>>51123631
>To defeat IS, the president (Obama) said last month there has "got to be a change a government,"
let me translate
"First we need wait until IS remove Bashar and kill his elites, and then we gladly ''''''''''defeat''''''''''' IS."
this triggers Americans
If you set up a democracy, you'll get a guy like Morsi, aka an islamist shill in sheep's skin.
lol put another dictator in and go to war against him in 15 years I don't give a fuuuuuuck
>>51124812
>waa waa assad is bad because he is killing people lets kill him
>waa waa assad is bad because he isnt killing people lets kill him
western kukold shills are pathetic
>>51124872
It's not our job to launch strike in spots that will blatant help Assad. We've pretty much thrown our lot in with the Kurds, and rightly fucking so. They're the only competent forces on the ground in Syria.
>>51124882
Pretty funny coming from the assholes who have targeted ISIS only ~1% of the time.
>>51124905
>>51124705
WOOOOW, SO NIHILIST, SO REAL POLITIK. I'M GLAD THERE'S FOREIGN POLICY GENIUSES LIKE YOU TO TELL ME HOW THE WORLD REALLY WORKS
>>51124990
go back to your lolbertarian autism chamber, rand
>>51124946
It's not your job to try overthrowing the existing government.
>>51124946
Pretty expected coming from the merifat about ''''''''''''''''''''''moderate''''''''''''''''''''''''''
>>51123631
I've got nothing against Assad in particular desu. I do think though that supporting him is a mistake, not because of warcrimes or crap like that, but just because he doesn't have the power or ability to maintain control over his own nation. All his army can do is get it's ass kicked, he's completely reliant on Russia, Iran, and Hezbollah to prop him up. He can't have any legitimacy with his own people if he can't even defend himself and them.
That said, I don't think there are really any great alternatives. Assad isn't the answer though.
it totally is our job to fix the mid east we are #1 they are like #300 so we feel bad and have to help them out sometimes ya know?
>>51125141
>not your job
>>America
>tried to invade and take over Canada
>forced Japan to adopt its own values and give up its right to arms after burning and nuking the shit out out of the country and killing civilians indiscriminately
>helped turn Korea into a proxy war and split apart the country just to set up yet another beachhead of influence in the region
>attacked Vietnam for no real reason and napalmed the shit out of civilians
>completely fucked up the middle east
what else am I missing
>>51123761
For you
>>51125476
most of South America
>>51124885
>this much juxtaposition in one image
first year film major?
>>51125231
He's probably sold his country to the Russians to stay in power. Syria isn't anything more than a Russian puppet.
>B-B-BUT AMURICA IS THE ONLY SELFISH WORLD POWER RUSSIA A GOOD BOY AND TOTALLY SELFLESS
Get real, faggots.
>>51123631
America is serving the interests of its client states.
Duh.
>>51125535
>implying reagans policies in south america didn't industrialize them
>the contras shouldn't have been supported
>reagan wasnt the second coming of simon bolivar
>fuck you
are you trying to say you want to see all his policies disappear? even all the effects of them do you want to see all the philosphy and research done in his wake disapear. the great authors and thinkers
>>51125476
>tried to invade and take over Canada
>when it was Great Britain
>>51125691
fuck you
>>51125721
>American education
>>51125756
>ad hom
typical
>implying
>united fruits didnt revitalize the south american economy
>our assistance in Guatemala isnt the only reason it exists to this day
>gabriel marcias wasnt directly inspired by reagan
>>51125639
Yes, because American Puppets have done sooooooo well recently.
>>51125476
Agent Orange
Depleted uranium rounds
unit 731 I believe it was
>>51125863
>united fruits
Americans are gay lol
>>51125906
This χαχά, nuke america tbη I poop at 9/11 victims' eternal souls
>>51123631
Do something about it whiny bitch
>>51125948
this χαχά
>>51123761
fuck you
>>51124336
fuck off kike
>>51125871
Unit 731 was Japanese. Americans just stole the data and let some of the people behind it go.
>>51124435
Define "supports". If we give them auf we are "supporting" an evil regime. If we dont give them aid we are the evil terrorists who are starving the people in order to force regime change. Damned if you do damned if you dont. When we eventually lose our hegemony people will miss us, because most other countries, guven the power we have, would be a whole lot worse. Every country uses its power abroad to enrich its own elite, but our strategy is generally to spread enough prosperity that other countries have the money to buy our shit. China will just plunder, Russia will plunder and leave hundreds of disappeared people in its wake. We are the villains though because we actually have the power right now.
The price of being king unfortunately.
>>51126289
>auf
Nice proxy, Kevin.
>>51126184
You invited them and forgave their terrible war crimes
>>51124403
But you don't understand, those were probably agents sent by the US so it doesn't count.
>>51126327
I meant to type aid, I have a really small phone.
>>51124422
>reverse google image
>has a dick
every fucken time
>>51125476
>helped turn Korea into a proxy war
Whooooooa my family member, the Korean war broke out when lil' Kim got the blessing from Stalin to invade the south. The Americans hadn't intervened in China, and the Soviets had the A-Bomb, so the Comintern thought they could snatch up Korea.
American dindu nuffin cept defend their allies.
>>51126343
no fuck you leatherman
You all have to realize that America rules the earth and get over it.
We're at the time in our history when we're all United. It's time to stop squabbling with each other and start squabbling with Aliens
>>51125948
edgy
>>51125863
>Destroys south american countries economies so they can export fruits for them
> south america is still a backwards agrarian shithole to this day
> did good
>>51124106
You cant just throw democracy into a country. Everytime that happens the country ends up worse than before. You need slow steady progression into a democracy, both political and economic. If anything assad should stay in power.
Fuck all you hoes
>>51126829
Sure, if you want perpetual civil war until he dies.
>>51126924
>implying there would be peace without Assad
>>51126829
agree
>>51127074
There won't be peace with him either you dense fucking nigger.
>>51127116
Yeah because you (we) irremediably fucked the region up
gj
>>51127166
You never should have created Syria in the first place. And he UK should never have created Iraq. Neither country has any god damn business existing.
So uh...
How about some of you bitchmade pussies step up and handle the problem?
Since you could all apparently do so much better.
He's right tho, if America turns 180 degrees now and start supporting assad instead it might make the civilian syrians lose all kind of trust and make them turn to isis.
>>51123761
fuck you
>>51127200
There's no solution. Just leave them be.
>>51127267
Yea because they'll definitely just leave us be...
I think this proves that our government is not interested in peace. Every time we remove a secular dictator from power, extremists benefit from the power vacuum. Why the fuck would Syria be any different?
It's not ideal, but Assad staying in power is clearly better than letting the rebels fight each other for power.
>>51127267
BUT AMERICA NEEDS TO PUSH ITS GEO POLITICS
>>51127303
Send Muslims back. Leave Syria be. Problem solved.
>>51127200
I am doing something about it by changing the opinion of a few hundred people through the power of shitposts. It's not much but what else can I do?
People from my country aren't allowed to go to Syria any more I'm pretty sure
>>51127395
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/americanattacks.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#Islamic_extremism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihadist_extremism_in_the_United_States#Attacks_or_failed_attacks_by_date
You're dramatically underestimating the magnitude of the situation. There will never be peace between the US and Islam, that chance is long gone.
>>51123631
Why does Assad look so retarded? Like, he looks like he has autism or even Down syndrome or something.
>>51123761
Fuck off. You ruined fucking EVERYTHING
>>51127355
>Every time we remove a secular dictator from power, extremists benefit from the power vacuum
I honestly think that happens more out of American ignorance than maliciousness
>>51127557
narrow eyes
silly mustachio
>>51127355
>I think this proves that our government is not interested in peace
Of course it isn't. You're late to the party, m8.
>It's not ideal, but Assad staying in power is clearly better than letting the rebels fight each other for power.
Clearly there are no easy answers here, so I can't say you're wrong outright. But Assad doesn't seem to have any long-term plan to better the country, he's just holding on for dear life.
So letting it happen might be not be a bad option, at least it's gonna chance things. Ideally we'd have some plan for transition ready since another country beyond our grasp could be real bad, but it's not like it could get much worse than it currently is.
>>51127200
but then they would have to actually do something instead of just criticizing everything we do from the sidelines
>>51127557
His brother was the good looking one, set to become leader before he died.
>>51127658
do WHAT though
>>51127597
American indifference
it's not like our government feels obligated to pay out of pocket to create and maintain secure democracies for every little shithole on the planet
our interest in Syria is limited to helping the removal of Assad from power and in the process freeing up the possibility of an oil pipeline
"our" meaning my government, most citizens don't want anything else to do with that shit region
>>51127703
Yeah that's probably more correct
>>51127355
>I think this proves that our government is not interested in peace.
Heh no kidding. You prey, rather profit, financially and politically, on instability and fear. Not you exactly, the very few who control your country. Peace was never an option until Russia became involved. Do you really believe the US wants peace in the Middle East after everything it has done and every revelation that has surfaced? Not even a lotrral retard would think so. I'm looking forward to a Middle East as far from US influence as can be.
>>51127665
different one.
this guy got passed up because his dad thought he was too brutal. think he lost some limbs in a bomb attack a few years ago. rumor was they flew him to moscow for surgery.
>>51127542
How is attacking Syria going to help? Just keep Muslims out of your country and let them cause trouble amongst themselves.
>>51127824
Woops my bad
>>51123631
Bitch nigga, what the fuck you gon do about it?! That's right, nothing. Now sit yo lil ass down, boy
>>51127838
Well, when Trump wins that may be a viable possibility
However, at the moment, we've been attacked many times and threatened many more on our home turf and have very limited border protection. They're the biggest liabilities on the planet today as far as our safety at home is concerned, thus why they are being removed.
>>51123761
FUUUUCK YOUUUU
>>51124668
Fuck soros he's a tool. Stay safe Macedonia bro
