Why did Europeans stop making iconic landmarks like big Ben or the Eiffel tower after the 19th century?
Will we see something by the end of the 21st century?
>>33786751
>imblying
>>33786751
Is that giant pawn?
Because during the industrial revolution building landmarks was a way of showing off your country's prowess.
>>33786751
never stopped here
>>33786751
>complain about Europeans not making good architecture
>post dildo made by an American
m8...
>>33786751
I think the Shard is quite iconic
>>33786842
Open your anus and OP's picture will follow.
>>33786911
And the London Eye is definitely iconic
>>33786897
Now we show off our prowess by importing as many immigrants as possible without the country collapsing.
>>33786901
I hope that you aren't comparing that with Arc de Triomphe.
It is ok if you do it with the eiffel tower that it is shit.
>>33786944
London is beautiful. You shouldn't have given it to the Muslims.
MUH MODERN ARCHITECTURE
>>33787004
It would be nice if you people could go for one thread without obsessing over Muslims or race
Let's just discuss some fucking architecture
SO COOL AND MODERN
>>33786944
It's a fucking ferris wheel. Fuck off. It makes London look like a gypsy fair.
>>33786926
Still can't get it.
>>33787032
>Paki detected.
*WOW*
>>33787035
I see these types of furniture all the time, they are always empty.
>>33786944
I never understood that wheel.
There is a mini disney world there?
China has taken over European expansion now
>>33786944
Where's the giant dildo-like structure ?
>>33787070
moar
>>33786911
It's tacky and belongs more to Dubbai.
It's funny that you're proud of it, because it's barely arab level.
>>33786751
It will be a ebin skyscrapper like every else in the world. So original
>>33787096
>>33787043
Just try a little harder friend, you will know when it enters you.
>>33787037
>It makes London look like a gypsy fair.
I don't think so
>>33787081
The London Eye was build for the Millennium celebrations and was meant to be temporary. It became so popular that they decided to leave it there.
Here's another modern structure I think will be iconic when it is completed
>>33787151
I bet they have hired someone who does nothing apart from advising them on how to spend all that money they make.
![13257638991[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2eVUToG.jpg "13257638991[1].jpg")
>>33787032
>having a thread without muh muslim or muh immigration
>on /int/
lel
>>33787085
are the chinks still trying to recreate all of Manhattan on top of marshlands?
>>33786751
But nigga that's just wrong
>>33787094
>Where's the giant dildo-like structure ?
That's in the City
>>33787158
That looks promising
>>33786966
That's because you've never seen it in reality.
>>33787158
Has construction already started?
>>33787187
whats the point of that bridge? why the highway isnt just on ground level?
>>33787205
>that giant spider
>>33787070
>>33787035
>>33787073
you guys have this shit too? Nordics are trying way too hard to appear modern
![memorial_Camera026_0000[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Gw0BiNN.jpg "memorial_Camera026_0000[1].jpg")
>>33787139
or it can be a great piece of art
>>33787153
Is that something sexrealted, vulgar?
>>33786751
>Why did Europeans stop making iconic landmarks like big Ben or the Eiffel tower after the 19th century?
Because white guilt
>Will we see something by the end of the 21st century?
No. You may see some of the world's most elaborate mosques though
but the Eiffel tower is ugly as fuck
>>33787158
>The planning application was approved in November 2014. However, it emerged that the bridge would not be able to be used by groups of 8 people or more; cyclists; or accessed at night (between midnight and 6am)
Sounds shit
>>33787252
No not yet. They are still in the process of securing funding. Because of muh debts it's mostly being funded by private money, instead of the taxpayer.
Joanna Lumley is involved in raising publicity for the Garden Bridge so I'm confident it will happen, that woman makes things happen
>>33787264
Oh fug is'ts reproducing
>>33787298
Buttplug. Google it m8.
>>33787287
>The shit memorial where all the berlin gays hide to fuck.jpg
>>33787338
I'd like London more if I wasn't a spot on a domino when I'm walking around it.
>>33787360
You could have stopped it, why didn't you listen?
>>33787322
>blaming everything on liberals
/pol/ please. The middle east has the tallest buildings in the world. Importing mudslimes make them more likely to build skyscrapers.
![millaud1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6wt3mSh.jpg "millaud1[1].jpg")
>>33787256
Because it's the fastest way to cross the valley and being flat cause less trouble for trucks which is the majority of the Traffic.
>>33787298
It was a buttplug by an Amercian "artist", thankfully people destroyed it.
>>33787338
why do you have a giant dildo?
>>33787375
The Financial district is mostly white people :^)
>all this modernist shit.
most disgusting thread ever.
>>33786751
we're broke m8
>>33787305
>>33787272
>>33787228
>>33787151
>>33787070
Why so butthurt? Some of these look bretty gud.
Am I the only one who thinks classic European architecture is a thousand times cooler than the vast majority of modern architecture?
>>33787420
Why not?
>>33787437
I agree, old architecture on modern infrastructure would be great.
>>33787368
>>33787411
> Buttplug
Wot?
Why?
I mean, WOT?
>>33787464
anything is better than modern archtecture.
>>33786751
This pyramid was supposed to be built this year, but politicians finally voted against it. a month ago.
Parisians, and french in general don't want skycrappers inside Paris, we don't want to look like arab cities or (worst) London.
We pushed all the towers at the border of Paris (La Defense).
>>33787464
>Am I the only one who thinks classic European architecture is a thousand times cooler than the vast majority of modern architecture?
My fragile mind can't handle all these controversial statements.
>>33787464
I like both.
>>33787448
Probably because modern building clash too much with historical centers of most cities.
>>33787509
Why not?
t. leftist cultural marxist scumbag who wants to see the destruction of the white europeans
>>33787448
I agree, I think >>33787012 is actually nice.
>>33787464
No. Modern architecture screams of "I'm so clever, look at me". They are trying hard to do something clever with the shape instead of the decorations and the insides.
Modernist > Classic
>>33787509
Because that's this kind of "artist" : An example of this is his 1976 piece, Class Fool, where McCarthy threw himself around a ketchup spattered classroom at the University of California, San Diego until dazed and self-injured. He then vomited several times and inserted a Barbie doll into his rectum.[1] The piece ended when the audience could no longer stand to watch his performance.
>>33787509
It was taken down thanks to a man that pop it.
Pre-sanctions, Russia had this thing going.
![futurecitytoorobertdbrown[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/q4irCjg.jpg "futurecitytoorobertdbrown[1].jpg")
>a bloo bloo why does everything have to chaaaaange
>I want to live in the middle ages forever
Every building that's more than 100 years old should be fucking demolished.
>>33787538
I mean, what purpose of buttplug?
Isn't something in your butt should look like penis? Seems like that cant bring pleasure. Giant penis would be better choice, isn't it?
>>33787651
Edgy
>>33787070
>1 million € room, big enough for 7 persons
What the fuck are you doing?
>>33787651
Stockholm is kinda shitty as far as European capitals go so I can see why you'd feel that way.
>>33787651
You fucking subhuman.
>>33787651
>Every building that's more than 100 years old should be fucking demolished.
You're baiting too hard
>>33787651
>>a bloo bloo
oh boy
>>33786751
HOLY FUCK FUCK THIS FUCKING BUTTPLUG
>Parents went to Paris last month
>Told them to get me a souvenir
>Got back last week
>''well, what did you buy me?''
>''son we got you a miniature of your favourite Parisian landmark!''
>get really excited, love the eiffel tower
>dad pulls out a buttplug
>hands it to me
>both parents laugh
>try to make the point that they LITERALLY went to a fucking sex shop to hurt my feelings
>they don't care, keep laughing
>mother says ''I suppose a boy with as much backdoor experience as you needs to actual sculpture to feel anything''
>I'm not even gay
>>33787631
oooh, that looks fairly science fictiony.
Looks like something to communicate with the mothership.
>>33787703
>You're baiting too hard
The replies he had indicates he did good.
>>33787713
>>33787256
Lobby wanted to build something.
Same lobby is building useless airports everywhere now.
>>33787719
>Things that didn't happen.
>>33787158
What's a group of eight people or more? If I turn up with 12 people are four of us just going to have to take ten steps back then steps forward after the rest of us enter, to identify them as a different group?
>>33787719
sick
bantz
Your parents sound farken cheeky.
>>33787719
serves you right you cancerous walloon
>>33787787
Maybe they meant width?
>>33787631
Russia must be happy to be under sanctions.
>>33787842
Considering our governments affinity for 'elf and safety I sincerely doubt it.
>>33786751
http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/10/up-yours-the-war-on-art-joins-the-war-on-christmas/
>>33787875
When will you stand up against the elves and take back what's yours?
>>33787875
Dad, get off 4chan.
>>33787767
I hope you're not talking about Nantes, it's a very needed airport.
>>33787924
No joke, it was the elves before it was the Britons. That's basically canon in their folklore, if you read The Faerie Queene.
>>33787982
EIDF please go
>>33788042
http://www.eidf.org/en/eidf/about
There's the big blue cock tower in london
This shit was finished in the 70s. That's pretty recent.
>>33787004
>obvious propaganda picture
Pedro please.
In real life London is fucking depressing as hell because it rains all the time and it's all grey.
>>33787437
Everything that is built follows the conventions of the time, fool. You don't build 1800s style buildings in 2014.
![rain%20uk%201[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EhWl6ld.jpg "rain%20uk%201[1].jpg")
>>33788349
So Salty
>According to the graph, London has fairly consistent rainfall throughout the year. It has consistently less rainfall than Tokyo and New York, and is only wetter than Rome, Vancouver and Nairobi in the summer months when their rainfall levels take a dip.
>>33788437
The Czech still make baroque looking buildings in Praha though.
The US build neo-classical buildings in the 1800's.
Whose to say that because a style had it's Just because a certain style seems old, doesn't mean it has to be put to the grave.
![Chateau_Frontenac_large_view[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aX6G1NK.jpg "Chateau_Frontenac_large_view[1].jpg")
Finished completely in 20th century
That said Canada is so young it'S hard to find "iconic" buildings younger than that
>>33787437
But your capital is the most modernist city in the world when it comes to architecture.
Also the architecture here is largely postmodernist. Modern =/= modernist.
>>33788593
I like it.
>>33788437
>You don't build 1800s style buildings in 2014.
The Chinese do, but they're weird so.
>>33787464
No, its quite a popular opinion shared by rednecks, fedoras and autists especially due to lack of knowledge on art and so on.
>>33787032
lel, bhenchod panjabi
>>33787464
I think the majority of people prefer classical and neo-classical styles over today's monstrosities.
>>33788552
Every time I visited it was rainy and depressing as hell.
>>33787719
God damn your parents are hilarious.
>>33787228
this is the only modern one that looks good
>>33787719
hah what a faggot you are
>>33787719
hhahahah fuckin get fucking rekt
>>33786751
>Why did Europeans stop making iconic landmarks like big Ben or the Eiffel tower after the 19th century?
>
>Will we see something by the end of the 21st century?
architects are incapable of doing something else than crap today. And as usual, the luxury lies in the details, and there are no longer funds nor time to finance detailed work.
>>33786751
Because nationalism and secularism has been raped up the ass due to globalization. Landmarks were meant to be a symbol of national pride, but nowadays nobody gives a shit.
>>33787719
>You will never have this awesome parents
>why did europeans stop being after the 19th century
>m-m-modern stuff doesnt count
>>33788552
London is quite clearly the most rainy according to that map.
>>33786812
The dick of Stalin! :D
r8 but no h8
>>33787651
spot the immigrant
>>33787464
No, they are just different
>>33793770
0/10
>>33786812
>>33787464
Well, this is a "new" neo-classical European project.
>>33786944
>London eye
Ooooh, I get it! It's because Brits are under constant surveillance from their treasonous, genocidal government!
>>33794030
A rebuilding project though...
>>33794084
It looks nice
>>33794084
Before interwar period.
>>33794776
Same.
>>33794827
What can I say?
>>33794032
Well yes, but enough about the Europhiles...
>>33787576
I think the difference is that back in old times if you built an ugly palace the King would just have you thrown into a dungeon so artists and architects had to be pretty sure that their visionary ideas were really visionary.
Today it's the other way around, everyone is afraid to tell an artist that they're full of shit because they're afraid of sounding like rubes.
>>33786751
The Great Mosque of Rome will probably be nice
>>33788625
yeah it's shit.
>>33786751
A Dutch dude made this. Not sure where it is now but it sure as hell is iconic.
>>33788437
How do you think these 'conventions of the time' are created, fool?
>>33786751
The Arc of La défense is may be not very beautiful, but it's an amazing piece of engineering, and definitely iconic, at least for Parisians.Probably not for the tourists tho.
>>33787396
>The middle east has the tallest buildings in the world. Importing mudslimes make them more likely to build skyscrapers.
You say that as if it's a good thing. Look at this shit.
>>33796634
>a little rubber ducky
To be honest, that is the same sort of shit as the buttplug for France.
Or don't tell me if the artist hadn't painted a cute face or pine tree branches on there you would still have complained that it looked obscene and out of place, yet a mammal that gang rapes to reproduce isn't.
Then again, with how Netherlands is an african country these days, an icon of gang rape and violence prettied up into a false icon is a perfect way to display the spirit of the nation.
>>33793770
beat me to it
>>33788593
That's not the oldest OR the biggest.
Actually we are rebuilding the Berlin 'city palace' right now.
>murrica bombed it
>commies blown it up completly, building their own shitty 'palace' there
>evil capitalist take over, blow up commie palace and rebuild the old one
>>33800330
Also more 'iconic' and completely new: Operahouse in Hamburg that is being built right now.
>>33787509
You're gonna see some shit on this here internet, boy.
>>33799311
Don't fuck with the duck
>>33787651
Filippo Tommaso Marinetti, pls go
>>33799311
This is the face of autism.
>>33797516
Dude, that's the Big Ben from London.
>>33787464
The Beaux-Arts was a dick-waving contest to see who could stuff the most caryatids and Corinthian orders into a rehashed Greco-roman facade. But in spite of that superfluous shit, they sometimes had ingenious, even modern ways of utilizing the space inside. We could all learn from them in that regard, just as Mies did
>>33786911
>the Shard
>Not calling it by its proper name
>>33800330
IMO this is far superior to the current Reichstag interior
>>33801166
>Bring me the ring you northern wankers
>>33787464
Yes and no. The problem with modern architecture is that nothing is done to embrace the "modern" part.
Its just all gigantic empthy facades of glass, steel and some wood.
>>33787631
Pre sanction Russia understood modern art. Soviet also did for that matter.
>>33800330
>The foundation stone of the building was laid by President Joachim Gauck in a ceremony on 12 June 2013 signalling the launch of a €590m (£500m) reconstruction project.
>On completion in 2019 the building will house a modern museum containing collections of African and other non-European art.
Jesus fucking Christ....
>>33801200
Eh. Bland commie pompousness never worked for me. How are you supposed to have class if you live in a system with no classes?
>>33801765
>>On completion in 2019 the building will house a modern museum containing collections of African and other non-European art.
If that means African weapons, I would be pleased.
>>33801200
well, that was never in the reichstag though.
and the current interior isn't bad. the eagly looks really nice if you are actually there.
>>33801573
It wasn't supposed to be about class. Most of the building was distinctly oriented towards cultural events and performances. The new Humboldtforum approximates the same thing, but does so under the guise of a past monarchical opulence. It's dishonest to say the least. And this is what passes for historical authenticity I guess. 3 out of 4 facades isn't bad, isn't it?
>>33802200
meant to quote
>>33801797
Lack of master craftsmen? Lack of trade specialisation and the prominance of prefab buildings?
>>33801765
What is the problem with showing art from outside your country?
This is not murrica or something, we actually care for cultures away from our own.
>pic related, evil multiculti cuck-enabling stuff these libtards are going to shove the white man in his face
>>33793770
why is he wielding an anus-drill?
muh modern architecture, its just 'make a building so fucked up till the poin that it ALMOST falls over' thing
>>33786751
Who "builds" something like that ?
It's degeneracy.
Fucking nostalgia fags thinking the Eiffel towers is pretty.
>inb4 it's a show of good engineering
Just like the new buildings you call "degenerate"
>>33805340
I'm talking about the buttplug.
>>33805340
It's not pretty. It's iconic.
>>33801113
Finally, someone with a half-intelligent post
>>33800806
Ah yes, who better to defend degeneracy, moral decay and the destruction of the only worthwhile human race than the americans. Eternal slaves to their corporate overlords and jewish masters.
Well done, little goyim. You sure have shown me what for. I am confident your local fast food provider will grant you a notable discount on your next carcinogenic cow flesh and sugar drink purchase.
>>33800757
The duck is shit. Same as the buttplug of France. Uninspired, lazy and outright boring tripe trying to pass as art. It's only selling point is the momentary, fleeting shock value. "look at how out of place this giant rubber ducky is! Isn't that DEEP?"
>>33787012
Looks cool.
>>33787337
>However, it emerged that the bridge would not be able to be used by groups of 8 people or more
That's like what, 3 Americans?
>>33801765
British Museum has nothing British in it. Just the stuff from all around the British Empire.
It has nothing to to with multiculturalism, it's basically showing off the spoils of conquests.
>>33787187
i like the oresund bridge
That's a good point. Modern European culture is all about stuffing foreign objects up your ass.
>>33787206
a brazilian bought that building some days ago
>>33808377
proof that Danes and Swedes CAN work together..
>>33809699
>>33808377
>question
Why not just tunnel the entire thing?
Is the tunnel not deep enough for ships to pass over?
tfw
>>33786751
What the fuck is that and where the fuck is it?
p shit
>>33787085
it's like the massive chinese economy blew its wad all over the countryside.
disgusting, raze that shit.
>>33801573
>Pre sanction Russia understood modern art. Soviet also did for that matter.
xaxaxaxa
>>33812817
>>33787085
This China shit is hideous and tacky. They're like those people who live in the suburbs and design their houses like mini-castles.
>>33813388
i think tunneling the whole thing is more expensive.
>>33786911
It really annoys me that the top looks like it's eternally unfinished.
>>33808377
looks like a road to Atlantis
>>33786751
But they didn't. I am sure there are minarets and mosques everywhere by now.
Most aesthetic commie blocks in the world
>>33786751
literally WWI
>>33787205
That was designed by a Canadian-American
also he is a shit architect
>>33813450
fucking based venice
independence when?
I don't think any country has made any proper, aesthetically pleasing, traditionalist architecture since World War 2, with very few exceptions.
>>33787411
Actuallybreddyebin.jpg
>>33786751
When the X-seed 4000 is built
>>33787464
I really dislike classic western european architecture.
It's just kitch and full of unnecessary kitch stuff.
>>33813450
No way that water isn't shwoopdedy shooped, but still, Venice is goat.
>>33815040
I really dislike both classic and modernist Greek banter,
It's just kitch and full of unnecessary debnts and self-loathing tbh.
I quite like the new Acropolis Museum. (established in 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_PwdyEnwnE
>>33815150
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>>33815040
depends on which era but I agree tbh when it comes to Baroque stuff
honestly I feel sort of insulted and queasy looking at this stuff, its just Gaudy and lacking in the subtle style and eloquence that characterized European art/architecture and instead looks like an Oriental mess
modern minimalist stuff goes back to that original aesthetic without directly copying the Romans/Greeks which is nice, but there is definitely a lot of gaudy crap made today (like a lot of 'abstract' stuff) still art needs that to develop
>Mfw there are brutalist buildings in my city.
>Mfw there are britalist buildings on the planet.
>>33813450
have fun sinking venice
they're too busy with building mosques
>>33816696
whats the matter
2BRUTAL4U
my university has a ton of this stuff, its really comfy tbh
nestled in the rough angular concrete bosom of some empty out of the way stairwell
>>33817123
>tfw minimalism
>>33817172
This looks like a render
I can't believe that this really exists anywhere.
>>33816696
>tfw my campus' main library is brutalist
>>33817436
it does, its just careful staged photography
>>33817480
that's pretty sexy though, the other anon doesn't know what he's saying
>>33786751
That's butt plug. What's it suppose to represent?
>>33817587
It clashes with the neogothic architecture everywhere else though.
And then there's this building.
>>33817631
The homosexual spirit of Paris, obviously.
>>33817651
I do agree the mix of styles looks out of place though I still like minimalist styles, they are truer to European values than gaudy over the top Orientalist wank
not that old architecture shouldn't be maintained and protected, just styles cant stay the same forever
I think the biggest problem today is how over-saturated we are and don't know where to go from here, not to mention art has developed so fast that people will fund any hack since they are unsure what is 'good' and what is just a fad
>>33817804
Exactly this. It's like art has become purely an investment, where you buy it just because it's 'art' and therefore can be sold once it's worth something, and not because there was any skill behind the work.
>pic related
>>33816696
>>33817123
>>33817172
>>33817480
>>33817530
i've always hated brutalism
it always feels like a prison or a mental ward or some creepy science fiction evil headquarters
>>33817905
Pollock isn't actually that bad
its easy to make fun looking at tiny .jpegs online, but his art works best in person as an 'experience' simply due to the shear size and weight the piece has, not to mention the emotion it causes to well up when you look at the work
its actually pretty amazing considering the simplistic; yet chaotic nature of the piece
I like Rothko for the same reason
there are plenty of copy-cats however who simply aren't able to capture the same feelings and their art ends up being crap despite looking superficially similar
>>33787411
>that civil engineering
Fuck, I think I have a boner.
>>33817967
that's cool though
I find it cozy in a sterile way
>>33817967
Occasionally it looks okay
>>33818263
I hate how that type of architecture blocks out so much of the natural light
>>33818263
Brutalism + Vegetation always looks sexy as hell
>>33818314
>>33818263
>>33818168
>>33818107
>>33817804
>>33817587
Advocating brutalism should be a capital punishment.
>>33815614
I fully agree.
>>33818310
I like how modern designs are starting to be more 'naturalistic' and focus on funneling sunlight inside as well as sticking to more organic designs/bringing back the use of wood
organic-minimalist design is tip top tier of modern architecture
>>33818168
>>33818263
>>33818314
it looks like depressing futuristic shit from 80s-90s science fiction movies
gives me the creeps
i seriously feel uncomfortablelooking at it
>>33818397
get gud taste fug
>>33815342
Damn thats fucking cool
>>33818500
like I said its surprisingly comfy when you are actually in the buildings
You guys like Chicago?
>>33818572
Chigago is my favorite US city
posting pics of this building in Idaho because I find it cool as hell
called 'the Outpost'
>>33818501
>liking modernism
>liking minimalism
>liking brutalism
you don't have a soul
>>33818539
my dad used to work in one and i always hated going there
>>33818602
>>33818641
>>33818635
>liking gaudy ass Baroque shit and turbopleb tier realism
French architecture is sugoi!
>you will never be this cozy
>>33818641
woooaahh
>>33818706
>>33818706
>liking evil soulless multinational conspiracy corporation headquarters made out of the dead souls of steralized people and the nihilist decay of emotion
>>33818779
>>33786944
Tianjin's eye is bigger.
>>33818741
More like exposed and unsafe tbh.
>>33818821
yeah but it's in china so it loses
>>33818789
yea
I bet you hate Vaporwave too
https://soundcloud.com/vhs-dreams-official/vhs-dreams
>>33818821
>muh dick
>>33818833
more like its America so you just bring your gun and take potshots at deer from your porch tbh
>tfw sometimes think I want to drop History and take Architecture but I hate math
at least its mostly geometry and basic algebra r-right?
