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This is a warning: the encroachment of radical Islam is prev
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This is a warning: the encroachment of radical Islam is prevailing in one of the last bastions of "democratic Islam": Indonesia. It's becoming more hardline every year, much like its twisted counterpart, Malaysia. Soon it will be totally Saudi-ized, with Christians and other minorities facing blatant danger in everyday life. Any of you /int/onesians wanna chime in,
give your two cents?
What is causing the increase in Muslims suddenly becoming much more hardline in your country? It used to be an extremely moderate place.

http://jakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/blogs/the-rising-tide-of-radicalism-threatening-indonesia/
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>>52666785
first for /celt/
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Bump. Come get it you bastards
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What we muslims on /int/ should embrace is the stereotypes that 4chan have about us. Don't be apologetic, don't be pathetic with #notallmuslim campaign.

Embrace it. Yes we are terrorists. Yes we will terrorize you. Yes we will invade your land with refugees. InshaAllah Europe will be muslim in the near future.

Neckbeard neets can only complain on 4chan. The leftist media is on our side. Edgy 4channers only dare to spout their hatred here on the internet, for they are pussies in real life while we muslims, we prepare to die for our deen.

Remember, convert their families, marry their daughters, put hijab on them and make sharia the law of the land in the whole of Europe.

Takbir ya ikhwan.
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>>52666785
>Indonesia
>democratic islam

WKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKKWKWWKWKWKKWK
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>>52668881
THIS PASTA IS AT FAULT! IT'S SPREADING IN THE COUNTRY TURNING MUSLIMS EXTREMIST!
We must enlist some Aussie to design a counter-pasta before it's too late for Indonesia.
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Isn't islam a religion of peace tho
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>>52666785
ok on a more serious note.
desu Islam wasn't so radical in SEA in the first place because Islam as its practiced here was a hybrid mix of buddhism, hinduism, islam, and local deity / ancestor worship. we have sultanates here since 15th century but they culturally more similar to indochina than ME.

for example head cover/beard/domed mosque isn't even part of traditional indonesian culture.
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>>52666785
the problem started with the rise of islamic reformation / purism funded by saudi wahabbis which has been going on since late 50s.

the situation itself is quite unique since even culture conservatives here actually against this rapid "arabisation" happening right now.

the same thing has actually happened in malaysia, but malays prefer islamic conservatism over cultural conservatism, so they're a lost cause.

rapid islamism means arabian jihad mentality, basically SEA muslims are becoming ME muslims
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As-salaamu alaikum wa rahmetullahi wa barakatuhu, /asean/.

I hope you're all doing well.

Just wanted to leave a reminder, that the gates of repentance, the gates of Jannah are open.

May Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala lead you to the rigt path and let the flower of imān grow in your hearts.

Jabir ibn Abdullah reported: When the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, began his prayer, he would exalt Allah and then say, “Verily, my prayer, my rites, my life, and my death are for Allah the Lord of the worlds. He has no partner and with this I have been commanded and I am among the Muslims. O Allah, guide me to the best deeds and the best character, for no one guides to the best of them but you, and protect me from evil deeds and evil character, for no one protects from them but you.”

عَنْ جَابِرِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ قَالَ كَانَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ إِذَا اسْتَفْتَحَ الصَّلَاةَ كَبَّرَ ثُمَّ قَالَ إِنَّ صَلَاتِي وَنُسُكِي وَمَحْيَايَ وَمَمَاتِي لِلَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ لَا شَرِيكَ لَهُ وَبِذَلِكَ أُمِرْتُ وَأَنَا مِنْ الْمُسْلِمِينَ اللَّهُمَّ اهْدِنِي لِأَحْسَنِ الْأَعْمَالِ وَأَحْسَنِ الْأَخْلَاقِ لَا يَهْدِي لِأَحْسَنِهَا إِلَّا أَنْتَ وَقِنِي سَيِّئَ الْأَعْمَالِ وَسَيِّئَ الْأَخْلَاقِ لَا يَقِي سَيِّئَهَا إِلَّا أَنْتَ
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>>52666785
>http://jakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/blogs/the-rising-tide-of-radicalism-threatening-indonesia/
> trusting prediction or using prediction as fact/s
is this supposed to be bait, m8?
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it is weird that i symphatize with ISIS? On the one hand I found myself revulsed at the savagery of their tactics. But on the other hand I have something of admiration for their iron resolve and stubborn adherence to principle. Not something to be so lightly cast aside in a soulless age. It may be that these men are the very harbingers of the new age we've been waiting for. A first, unsophisticated step perhaps - but a step in the right direction!

ISIS is the only political/miltary force worth supporting in the world today -- it is the only revolutionary force. If you would have supported the Third Reich, then you should support ISIS today.

ISIS is humanity's last breath as it writhes within the helium-hood of burgers, jews, nusayris, edgelords, and six year old trans kids.
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>>52672160
InshaAllah brother...
and the west will pay for the atrocities they commit upon muslims around the world.
It is the promise of Allah that we Muslims will be victorious by the Day of Judgement.
Even now, we can already see the the signs of this victory.
Infidels are now living in fear for the might of our lions of Allah as witnessed on the news everyday, their number is dwindling as we speak.
They are even letting our Muslim brothers and sisters into their homeland with open arms because they know the light of Islam is too tempting to ignore.

It is true that Islam will easily conquer the west by simply outbreeding them.
Therefore, it is my duty to urge our brothers and sisters to start growing our number by making families as any devout follower should.
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>>52666785
Using very old news article f*ck off .
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>>52666785
WHY MUSLIMS ARE ANGRY ALL AROUND THE WORLD? JUST LOOK AT THESE FACES. THEY ARE NOT EVEN ARABS, OR TURKS OR PAKIS! WHY?
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Assalamua'laikum my fellow brothers in Islam on /int/

I'm sure you have heard the term "CIA watchlist" before. It is used to intimidate us muslims from seeking latest news on the Khilafah and the current state of our mujahideen on the battlefield. Afraid not. Continue to do so.

Why did I said that? First you have to understand how intelligence agency works. They're still human, not robots and they're strained with budget and manpower. If 1 million muslims start doing what supposedly will make them end up in the watchlist, can the intellignece agency keep up with all of this. Of course not, and Allah will surely blind their eyes from knowing about our plan.

Just imagine, because of your shitposting on 4chan - the CIA will start to monitor you and the manpower that they should've use to monitor our mujahideen planning the next attack on Europe are focusing on you instead. What a great reward for you that you've successfully diverted the kuffar's attention!

May Allah's blessing be upon all of you.

Daulatal Islam Baqiyah wa Tatamaddad bi Iznillahi Ta'ala!

Your brother,
Abu Mus'ab al Malizi
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>>52672207
It's very old article.
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>>52672207
yeah man.. why is the religion of peace so fucking angry all the time? Fuck off slims
fucking posers get gassed
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>>52672207
because only edgy failure mofo will take islam seriously
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>>52672250
AW SHIT. GUYS LOOK. A REVERSE POLAND! WHOA! I CAN NOT BELIEVE IT.
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>>52672184
can you stop doing it. it's not funny.
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>>52672304
They don't poo in loo
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>>52672304
SBY is our president years a go. the article could be made since more than a decade a go.
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>>52666785
only a return to true indonesian root in which can peace be back to indonesia.

and by indonesian root i mean javanese root since indonesia is a javanese empire and anyone who deny it are sumatran retards
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I cannot fucking believe we haven't done anything about Saudi Arabia. Instead, we invaded a Baathist and are probably going to invade some Shi'ites.

Fucking George W. Bush
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BRING IT ON KUFFAR
THE KHILAFAH WILL ONLY BE STRONGER

BAQIYAH WA TATAMADDAD BIIZNILLAHITAALA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta75NNb6MQ8
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>>52666785
>It used to be an extremely moderate place.
lol.
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>>52672718
>""""""""moderate"""""""""""""""" muslim
what a surprise.
you know how turkey got 12? because 88% never been asked
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>>52672718
bring back the khilafah ya al turki
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>>52672088
>tfw someone reposted my pasta


asean caliphate soon brother
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>>52666785
> using random people article as source
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behead the infidel jihad war now
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What we muslims on /int/ should embrace is the stereotypes that 4chan have about us. Don't be apologetic, don't be pathetic with #notallmuslim campaign.

Embrace it. Yes we are terrorists. Yes we will terrorize you. Yes we will invade your land with refugees. InshaAllah Europe will be muslim in the near future.

Neckbeard neets can only complain on 4chan. The leftist media is on our side. Edgy 4channers only dare to spout their hatred here on the internet, for they are pussies in real life while we muslims, we prepare to die for our deen.

A
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>>52666785
Islam shall unite us Minsha Allah,

it is time for us to erase our border, Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore, south Thailand, South Philippine. we are all muslims. we are one.

Rise SEA Muslim
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>>52673069
Why not take the rest of New Guinea while you're at it?
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>>52673069
>East timor
Just leave them alone
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>>52673069
it should be called greater malaysia

we are malay muslimah people indonesia is colonial name like indochina of evil opressive whites
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>>52672936
aaaaaaaaaaand its over, its time to go home lads, once again muslims ruined everything.
this thread is done.
seriously, can't you fags shut the fuck up for once?
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>>52672986
>>52672824
>>52672321
>>52672196
>>52671680
>>52671198

embrace our proud islamic heritage brother, together we shall stand strong and defeat the infidel menace, caliphate or death is the only future for us
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>>52666785
>It used to be an extremely moderate place.


Nice même.
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>>52673147
retard
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ha ha i know you guys are just meming right? very funny


right?
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>>52673181
nobody cares if it was yours or not, faggot.
the fact that you wanted credit for that pasta is proof that you're as retarded as muslims itself, off yourself
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>>52673283
>being triggered this hard

wow youre dumb senpai, please stop posting here anytime ok, facebook may be better suited for you
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I for one accept Islam. I think we should turn all our women to the BBC.
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>>52672388
Reported your IP to the U.S. Embassy and my friend at Kopasus. See you on the front page of Jakarta globe tomorrow pal.
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>>52666785
>Indonesia
>democratic Islam

fuck off you retarded amerifat, stick to speculating about canadian culture instead of a country on the other side of the world
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>>52673069
>East Timor
loving
every
kek
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>>52673447
You dumb cunt. They're one of the only Muslim majority nations with a democratic government, and have had female heads of state (Megawati). They still live in relative harmony with dozens of religions and subcultures, from Islam to paganism, stretched across thousands of small islands.

Don't barge in here acting like you know shit just because your country is geographically closer to them. Or maybe because you've been to Bali for a weekend, you repulsive, ever-inebriated cunt.
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>>52673135
t. pahlawan melayu
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>>52672184
As-salaamu alaikum

My name is Ba'alphome de Vicors, representant of the God Ba'al and the Goau'ld race on Earth.

Your kin will be wiped.

Your history will be forgotten.

Your existence will become a myth.

And in a thousand years when the Earth is reborn.

You will be cucked.

As I am Earth.

As I am Water.

As I am Fire.

As I am Life.

And Death.

Bravery.

And Fear.

Love.

And Hatred.

I am the Alpha and the Omega.

And I curse your people until my return.

DEVS BA'ALES
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>>52673069
Have no idea if you're being ironic or not, but this kind of shit is exactly what is going on in Indonesia. My contacts stationed there say girls are choosing more and more to wear Islamic garb, and not just hijab- I mean the whole cloak/shroud, almost full niqab. Islamic conservatism tinged with Wahhabism is apparently becoming more popular, especially with the youth. There needs to be some form of counter culture to this, as these young conservative Muslims will be the ones ruling the country in the future.

First, pornography should definitely be unblocked on the Internet. This will allow a healthy sexual outlet for young men and shame/preoccupy them from going to the mosques.

Alcohol sales should be allowed year-round, including during Ramadan. This will curb the Islamic zeal that rears its ugly head during that month.

Any other suggestions?
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>we will never have back our old Nias megalithic tradition
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But are they *really* muslim? Pretty sure their last interaction with mecca was during the golden era of the indian ocean trade. Are they to the middle east what Ethiopia is to catholic/protestant christians?
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>>52673867
I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>52674118
Don't play dumb you cousin-fucking sack of shit.
Legalize pornography. Legalize alcohol sales during Ramadan. Legalize pork. And stuff your backwards ideology right up your pantat.
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Reminder that fundamental islamism is the only true islam


say no to """"moderate islamism"""""
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>>52673867
>girls are choosing more and more to wear Islamic garb, and not just hijab- I mean the whole cloak/shroud, almost full niqab. Islamic conservatism tinged with Wahhabism is apparently becoming more popular, especially with the youth
and this is a bad thing because?
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and thats, gentlemen, the true face of islam.
this is what is coming to your country and what they will try to turn into, good luck.
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>>52674306
Indonesia has been muslim for like 1500 years, are you sure the christians aren't the invaders?
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>>52674306
very cool post senpai, you sure showed those dirty mudslimes their true nature (^:
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>>52674202
You must be an idiot. the only thing change the money will shift to cop and thug.
actually you can buy it while ramadhan in bar or something legal but regulated. Pork is legal but it's not halal. use your brain not your ass.
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>>52674355
its always been shit, thats why it was defeated by christian invader easily despite numbers.
islam ruined the glory and corrupted this country
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>>52674355
They are. The truth is, we choose Islam because dutch, spain, moortugal are all christians. Chink like him, too, are christian.
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>>52674453
there is literally nothing good coming out from the islamization of this country.
they come as cancer, ends up as cancer
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So guys which muslim countries are still okay and somewhat balanced ?

Turkey, Central Asia and Morocco ?
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>>52674551
>muslim countries
>okay and somewhat balanced
trully the barbosa-est post
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>>52674551
Azeris aren't even Muslims, far closer to atheists t bh, but they're T*rks. Bosnia and Albania are okay
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>>52674539
are you a priest? you're shilling christianity too hard?
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>>52668881
What we aussies on /int/ should embrace is the stereotypes that 4chan have about us. Don't be apologetic, don't be pathetic with #notallaustralians campaign.

Embrace it. Yes we are shitposters. Yes we will post shit about you. Yes we will invade your board with memes. Fuck ye cunt /int/ will be Australian in the near future.

Europoors and Amerifats can only complain on 4chan. Canada is on our side. Edgy 4channers only dare to spout their hatred for Australians here on the internet, for they are pussies in real life while we Australians, we prepare to die for our shit posting.

Remember, convert their families, marry their daughters, put memes on them and make emus the law of the land in the whole of /int/.

True fucking blue
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>>52674539
true. Majapahit 2.0 when? restore buddhism
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>>52674407
You want to know the most fucked up thing?
During Ramadan, when all you muzzies are fasting, restaurants will INCREASE THEIR PRICES to take advantage of the people who are fasting and want to break their fast at sunset. You spout out all this bullshit about Islam being the one true faith, but from the looks of Indonesian Muslims, doesn't look like they practice a very compassionate religion.
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real talk though, as in no more memes, islam was so engrained in our culture and history, also as they were the only one bringing progress and technology to our country after the hindus degenerate into weak and petty small kingdom. the only reason our native culture doesnt end up being assimilated by the dutch was because islam united all those small tribes, kingdom, ethnicity into one single indentity. islam by now might aswell be our state religion right now
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>>52674685
which post suggest i'm a christian or shilling for it?

see? this is muslims, they'll point their filthy finger and play victim immediately as they received even the slightest pressure.
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STOP THE BOATS fuck these muzzie cunts.
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>>52674739
>this fucking post
>the whole of it
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>>52674750
>shill
>play victim


whoa cool down with the buzzwords there senpai, you browsed /pol/ too hard
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>>52674697
> america
> compassionate
Total bullshit look in the mirror now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index
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>>52674814
hes right though,
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>>52674739
I agree if we adopt sharia law like many of our neigboring country.
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>>52674864
this
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>>52674273
That's a bad thing because gw, kapan jalan jalan di pondok indah mall, suka lihat pantat nya mama dan adek luh. Kalo gw bisa lihat pantat nya mereka dan rambut nya mereka, aku bakal approach mereka dan minta nomor hape. Terus gw mulai line mereka. Nah, malam minggu, kita pergi ke klub bareng, munkin X2 atau Immigrant. Aku bakal bikin adek luh mabok dan bawa dia pulang. Terus, bro, gw bakal nyentot ama adek luh. Memek nya sempit tapi basah banget, bagus untuk titit bule aku, kan gede titit bule. Gw ga bakal pake kondom juga, bakal ejaculate di dalam momok nya aja. Two bulan lalu, dia bakal bayar aborsi, lempar bayi ke got.

Itu, coi, karena itu gw mau lihat rambut dan pantat adek dan mama luh.
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>>52673871
its a shit tier tribe and should just die off. bow to your javanese overlord. we make big candis

>>52673867
see
>>52672488
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>>52674827
>>shill
VVVVV
>>52674685

>>52674827
stop slamming your head 5 times a day, the brain damage is visible
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>>52666785
>Indonesia is about to turn in to another muzzie shithole
Good, hope a civil war starts there.
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>>52674912
yeah i sure hope so, the current government was pretty un-islamic ToBeHonest. i hope our country will took a step towarss the right firection
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>>52674854
the infestation of islam is the reason why the kingdom was weakened retard, literally cancer.
>bringing tech
ayy lmao
>the only reason our native culture doesnt end up being assimilated by .......
yeah i bet you think a cunt like diponegoro was a hero right?
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>>52674897
sounds terrible desu, i sure hope none of these degenerate western shit reach our proud country brother.
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Who cares?
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>>52674739
>hindus
>weak and degenerate
>Islam
>unifies indonesia

good lord how can anyone be this stupid. go back to school.

Nusantara was united under majapahit hindus. Islam divide us to petty kingdoms
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>>52674912
article is claimed being written by random indonesian that not even live in indonesia long a go in random site too. why should somebody trust the content?
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>>52675004
>no western degenerate shit
>speaking english on 4chan on a computer
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>>52675004
Already have "reached" your country before. Fucked some stupid Jakarta anak gaul and she became super religious after I flew back to the States and stopped replying to her texts. She wears full niqab now and posts all this stupid shit on Instagram, like verses from the koran, but still obsessively emails me. Guess she loves the white cock too much :^)
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>>52674907
You're an idiot, m8.
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>Islam
>In a country where the men can't even go beards.

Is this the real reason they're the most acceptable muslims, no pedo tier beard chills them out?
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>Indonesia
>"Democratic Islam"

Topkek m80o

Indonesia is a shithole like the rest of them.

>What is causing the increase in Muslims suddenly becoming much more hardline in your country?

Dumb yank. The rise of radical islam is your country's fault.
CIA encouraged and supported religious fundamentalism in the middle east to stop atheistic communism from spreading southward.

But it's out of your control now, and we are all suffering for it.
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>>52666785
Islam = religion of Satan
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>>52675107
spectacular come back akhi
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>>52666785
https://youtu.be/0RokKeiIatA
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>>52675165
I'm not falling to your idiotic bait posting.
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>>52675023
nah the hindus was pretty weak and fragmented during the arrival of islam, see all those shitty sucessor states (singosari,kediri etc etc) and what i mean by unification was that by uniting all those small tribes, kingdom, chieftain into one single identity by uniting them with religions, something that the majapahit empire failed to do as they functioned as a tributary empire which only cares about their core javanese territory and exerts tribute from all other islands by military means, which also one of the main reason nusantara willingly accepted islam as they simply came peacefully by trade, not weapons and warship.
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>>52668881
What we Jews on /int/ should embrace is the stereotypes that 4chan have about us. Don't be apologetic, don't be pathetic with #notalljews campaign.

Embrace it. Yes we are merchants. Yes we will trick you. Yes we will force refugees on you. b'ezrat hasham Europe will be multicultural in the near future.

Neckbeard neets can only complain on 4chan. The leftist media is on our side. Edgy 4channers only dare to spout their hatred here on the internet, for they are pussies in real life while we Jews, we rule the world.

Remember, steal their money, marry their daughters to niggers, put refugees in their countries and take all their money.
Am israel chai
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>>52675208
keep doing that, maybe your muslim brother will see you as smarter species
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>>52675220
it was never unified dumbshit.
please tell me the great power of those islamic kingdom
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>>52675203
Those jews are nice people.
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>>52674739
good stuff, i dont understand whey so many of us would willingly cut of a large part of our history and culture simply because some sandniggers goes full chimpanzee.
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>>52675320
which part of "uniting all the small tribes, kingdom, chieftain into one single identity" you dont understand senpai? i can elaborate more if you like.
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>>52675320
>it was never unified dumbshit.


but it was

(^:

you are living in a muslim majority country, the largest in fact if you havent realized
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>>52673069
Melayu raya? What happened to ethnic papua?
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>>52675424
*you are living in a muslim majority country right now
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>all these edgy fedora chinks getting blown the fuck off


good thread
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>>52673867
>First, pornography should definitely be unblocked on the Internet. This will allow a healthy sexual outlet for young men and shame/preoccupy them from going to the mosques.

Reading this shit almost makes me want to convert to islam.

Fuck your decadence
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>>52675372
yeah, so does the fact being "melayu race". being islam is exactly as important as that.
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>>52674105
Islam doesn't work that way. You can't sompare it to christianity.
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>>52675424
explain eastern indo dumbass, they felt entitled as muslim so they decided to join?
unified by islam my ass
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>>52675500
How's the chastity belt working out for you? And pleased be my guest. Drop by your local masjid and they'll be happy to indoctrinate you about a guy who went into a cave, alone, and apparently received the word of god.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtrIPKfqa6M

I suggest you guys this channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChC9yNp65dyHJoHILTdxO5w/videos
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My origin province north sulawesi.
Most muslim there are javanese.
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>>52674355
ISlam itself isn't even 1500 years old. Please shut up and open up a book before making a fool of yourself.
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>>52675510
the identity of the malays, the minangkabau, the sulawesi, the borneo identity and all those other race was of course important. with the arrival of islam being an unifying religion, in which every races was equal under god. made these races found common ground with each other and work together achieving our country independence
really, i dont see whats so hard to understand about all that senpai.
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>>52675442
exterminated
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>>52675557
they didnt do shit though :)

the sooner they assimilate the better
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>>52675592
I am very sorry
Protestants are even worse than muslims
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kek when will all of you inbred easterners realize that the only one making progress in this country was the javanese, the sumatra and borneo? really without us you might as well be australian abbos tier
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>>52675629
Sumatera, malaysia, singapore, and borneo is pretty much united under "melayu". except jungle bataks and dayaks.

fair point for sulawesi though.
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>>52675560
I hope your mother and later your daughter if you ever have one end up in some porn movie, cockroach. Or your dad and son in gay porn.
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>>52674864
You are a fucking retard, no wonder this place is a shithole
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>>52675770
religion played important part senpai. assimilation and stuff
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>>52674912
Preach brother, a religious middle east and south east asia is good for business

These retards will have slaughtered each other over religious crap before they realize they have been cucked by European and American companies

Jajajaja
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>>52675629
>made these races found common ground with each other and work together achieving our country independence
whatever you're smoking right now i want one.
holy shit, you actually thinks there isn't hindu buddha, and christian independence hero?
islam does nothing
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>>52666785

Fuck off, i was planning to my hijra there

GO FUCK A GOAT FUKING WAH*BBIS
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>>52675774
I had a vasectomy so none of that will happen. Good luck defending against Islamic terrorists plots in your country- and I mean that with sincerity.>>52674897
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>>52675673
can't you read? how the fuck they decided to join because islam
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>>52675881
those "heroes" did jack shit in contributions of our independence. they were fighting for their respective tribes and kingdoms. without the unified indonesian identity
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>>52675807
>muh assimilation
indon is unified by common enemy retard
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>>52675631
No wonder our country is still undeveloped.
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>>52675950
>those "heroes" did jack shit in contributions of our independence
holy shit i just can't.
how in the fuck yos sudarso fighting for his respective kingdom? are you retarded or what?
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>>52675963
and a national identity, guess who contributed greatly to that
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>>52676007
>died in the middle of sailing to invade another island, of which doesnt have any relation to us whatsoever
yep, he did jack shit
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>>52676008
and play jack shit role in unifying
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>>52676060
>everyone but muslims is useless
islam, everyone
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>>52675963
Agree with you.
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>>52676161
hes right though, the only one making progress in this country was the javanese, the sumatra and borneos and the makassar.
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>>52676120
youre kinda dumb to be honest senpai, of course a national identity played important part towards our independence
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>>52676221
>most of the economic backbone held by christian chinese
now don't let me get started on this one
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>>52676325
those werent progress though, that was collusion, corruption and bribery. pretty much everything wrong with this country
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>>52676252
>national identity
>muslim
yeaaa, right.
so before the arrival of dutch we are divided muslim kingdom, and after their arrival somehow we are unified by islam?
you're joking right?
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>>52676374
keep believing that shit, without them java is literally nothing
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>>52676389
see >>52675372
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>>52676416
then it was doing jack shit because it was as useful as the fact that indonesian is melayu race, are you dumb?
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>>52676325
reminder that it was the chinese who brought islam to indonesia. see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raden_Patah

you ruin it for everyone
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When Muslims feel oppressed or feel injustice, they fight because that's what their religion tells them to.
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>>52676482
whats disturbing is, muslims feel oppressed whenever they don't have supremacy
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>>52676445
>indonesian is melayu race


here is where you wrong, indonesia is more than just the malays, there hundred other tribes and ethinicities you know? and here

>>52675629

is where islam played an important part
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>>52676543
you understand what rumpun was? those tribes is nothing but fragment of it?
nah, before the dutch come it was everything but unified, so it can't be islam. its the hatred towards dutch that unified us
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gotta go now, see you later if this thread still up. and merry christmas for our christian brothers who are still celebrating
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>>52676543
someone can't understand the difference between race and ethnicity.

melayu = austronesia. simple enough?
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>>52676691
my point still stands
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You Island monkeys should have converted to Buddhism after Hindupoointheloos weakened like the mainland SEA Kingdoms, look at the great civilizations and advances the Buddhist world is in while you sit in your mud huts and pray to your sand god for running water. Look at Singapore and Malaysia, it's night and day which civilization is better.
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>>52676727
no its not, there is no difference whether we're islam or not, people of melayu will still stands against the colonist.
therefore islam do nothing
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>>52676741
malaysia is even more islamized you fucking moron, read a book. and we did have our buddhist civilization, fucking tard.
and its true, we should stay buddhist
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>>52676786
really, why do you try so hard to reject the importance of islam during our national revolution phase? embrace your islamic heritage and culture agus, without it, this country wouldnt exist
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>>52676883
maybe because you're wrong? so what if it was our history, it's hinder us from progress, nothing good was and will come out from embracing it
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>>52676955
read more books senpai, this is my last post in this thread for you
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>>52676741
singapore has sharia law unlike indonesia.
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>>52676985
>le i don't know therefore unspecified books
old tricks
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>>52676741
Malaysia is a muslim you idiot.
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>>52676857

I mean't compare how shitty Malaysia is compared to Singapore. Sorry that's my fault I should have been more clear.

It's a shame Buddhism didn't stay in Indonesia, it's a very comfy religion.
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>>52677111
Yea right buddhism is comfy. The myanmar is the real life trump presidency.
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>>52677111
they weren't so comfy in myanmar and japan though
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>>52675784
I think you don't understand at all .
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>>52677111
singapore isn't buddhist
its only its demographic, and most of them isn't practicing, they have already passed religious phase the moment they become a country.
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Fuck islam literally
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>>52677163
i believe you mean cambodia, japan is developed
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now that the mudslime left, lets post some more memes lads
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>>52666785
You should invade them, suppress the growing Islamist movement, appoint a US puppet government and then complain when someone slams a plane or two into commercial skyscrapers.
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>>52677260
Japan has zen mazhab. literally The shaolin warrior monks.
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>>52672207
They're like /pol/ posters IRL. Something's gone wrong for them and they never got proper help so they turn to edgy ideology.
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>>52677260
buddhist during sengoku japan wasnt really nice at all
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>>52677316
>>52677349
better than being trapped with islam, its easier to pass through religious phase when you're buddhist
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>>52672207
It is just your delusions.
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>>52677429
Why not myanmar? Why don't you become budhist too ?
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>>52677518
because i already know that i don't need to?
also myanmar is basically austronesian with higher bangladeshi influence, hard to imagine they will ever developed
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>>52677589
That bullshit why you still christian while budhist is less religious unlike yours.
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>>52677589
>t. myanmar pro
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>>52677674
>you still christian
no, i'm not, fuck those gay ass teaching, if not for seditary law i'd spit at the face of muh conspiracy reverends
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>>52677883
sedition*
wtf
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>>52675101
>I fuckd ur women kekeke

don't play big, baboon. Know your place. Indonesia is sexually liberal.
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>>52675101
fuck you
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>>52680008
wju are Indonesians converting to Christianity? why haven't you expelled missionaries that pry on ignorant peasants and convert them?

Islam is not a pussy religion like Christianity, whoever goes into Muslim lands preaching another religion is to be crucified.
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>>52680311
because they're not. only very small handfuls.
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>>52680439
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Indonesia

very disappointing desu
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As long as Jews, Muslims, and niggers exist there can be no peace.
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>>52680781
you are forcibly converted colonized cucks. You're in no position to talk about social issues.
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>>52666785
Indonesia is hardly democratic
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>>52680008
Haha why u so mad bro
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>>52679840
Did you mean to say "conservative" you troglodyte?
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>>52666785
Inferiority complex, money from sauds, looks "kewl n edjy"

Why do you think people join Da'eesh?
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>>52674273
Because it's easier to single you out when the anti-islamic crusade begins.
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>>52674105
>they to the middle east what Ethiopia is to catholic/protestant christians

pretty much this, until recently, most Maritime SEA muslim was isolated from wider Islamic world. thus culturally and socially are different from mainstream muslim culture. this changes after saudis wahabbism spread though
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>>52686110
Didn't Indonesians even not cover the body until the the last 80 years?

Stupid Islamic nationalism

Return to Buddhism malaybud
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>>52676526
>source
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