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If you died and had to be reincarnated in these three countries
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If you died and had to be reincarnated in these three countries which one would it be. (you could be born into anybody's kid rich or shit poor).
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Brazil
>bunda
>awesome festive culture
>germanic
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That's hard to say.

Probably Brazil. I've been to India about a half dozen times and love the country, but I wouldn't want to risk the chance of getting born into crushing poverty. Moreover, I'd assume there's a chance I could be reincarnated as a woman, too, in which case I definitely wouldn't want to be born in India.

I don't know very much about China. I think it'd be a toss-up between Brazil and China. Maybe China would be the better option.

However, I'll be going to both countries within the next two years so I suppose I'll have a better answer then.
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There must be some parts of India and China that aren't shit, right; Most of Brazil is shitty jungle and a sterile desert in the northeast, but south and São Paulo is nice. I need to know more about the regions of China and India first.
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brasiu all the way
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>>62196814

India has a lot of wonderful people and beautiful places, but poverty is widespread and rampant. My ex-girlfriend lived in a very nice neighborhood. If one were to walk there, they would pass parked luxury Porsche and Mercedes cars, security stations, and modern apartments. Go down the street, hang a right, and walk through the gate and suddenly there are naked people bathing in a mudpuddle on the side of the street.

That's just how India is.
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Definitely China
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i want to pick brazil, but then theres a good chance ill be reincarnated as a black, so ill pick china
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Rich HUE no question
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>>62196907
We have less blacks than USA lmao.
Lots of pardos tho.
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>>62196864
Still, it's a very big country with over 1 billion people. There must be a few regions that aren't designated shitting grounds.
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>>62196990

Sure. Here's a picture I took in the Himalayas back in 2014. It's a beautiful place, but there are people living in mud and stick huts on the next ridge around. The point I'm making is that, if you were to be born in India, you'd most likely be living in poverty. That's not to say that you might not get to enjoy some beautiful sights.

Kerala actually has a higher HDI than Russia, if I'm remembering correctly.
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>>62196502
Brazil.
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China

Just avoid the pollution and I'm pretty much golden

barely any crime and food is rad as fuck just don't go to that shitty looking resteraunt in a hole type shit and I'm golden

People are relatively decent, will penny pinch the fuck outta me but won't hate or kill me just because I'm different

Poverty will be a huge problem and a competitive labor market will be hard as fuck but If I can retain my knowledge right now I'll be fine
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China
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Brazil, no contest
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Brazil
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>>62196502
Jeeez OP. Tough choice:

China
>be wage salve for life
>be afforded no chance of individuality
>live in overcrowded towns
>retarded one child policy leaves the country with excess of millions of men to women
>can't find a date
>materialistic society

India
>retarded chaste system
>smelly disgusting people who don't poo in loo
>intolerable weather
>women are bitchy and not much to look at
>horrible """""English"""""" or retarded regional languages

Brazil
>western
>Christian
>beautiful women
>up and coming country
>cool language
>football
>beaches
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>>62196990
isn't there more subhumans living in northern brazil than south? which is more likely being born has a pardo/nigger in a favela or some rich white guy in southern brazil?
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>>62197100
T. Jose Sanchez

Every single about Brazil sucks and is subhuman shithole. I can't wait for the world to see for itself during the olympics.
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Brazil by a landslide. I'd take danger over fucked up family customs. I'm going to poor anyways so fuck it. At least I can hue it up during the happy days.
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>>62197133
Northeast: 56 560 081 inhabitants
South: 29,016,114 inhabitants
State of São Paulo (Southeast Region): 41.384.039 inhabitants
Southeast Region: 85 115 623 inhabitants

Southeast Region is also very nice, except for Rio
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>>62197297
>Every single about Brazil sucks and is subhuman shithole

Unlike India and China? Brazil has redeeming qualities though. At least Brazil is Christian. India is smelly and China is soulgrinder to the individual.
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>>62197133
Out of 205 million people, 73 million live in the south and São Paulo, so yes, your chances of being a junglenigger are high.
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>>62197375
>Brazil has 200 million people

Jesus christ, you fuckers breed like roaches.
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>>62197375
São Paulo has 44 million+ inhabitants.
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>>62197068
just hope you are born in shanghai or hong kong cuz that's the jackpot. It suck so much to born uighur or tibetan however.....
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>>62197100
>be afforded no chance of individuality
what is that even
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>>62197458
>USA has 323 million people

Jesus christ, you fuckers breed like roaches.
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>>62196502
Brazil has great food, weather and at least life is a lot calmer and relaxed if you're lucky. At least people won't kick me for having the wrong surname, and I'll be able to see life in the appropriate 4:3 aspect ratio.
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Fuck Chile
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>>62197524
t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>62197458
>landmass
- United States of America 9,147,593.0
- Brazil 8,358,140.0

>population
- United States of America 318.9 million
- Brazil 200.4 million

not that different from us
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>>62197496
Chinks live by the "The nail that sticks out shall be hammered down" principle. They are remarkably uniform, they don't have that uniqueness that makes every human a world of its own. It's uncanny desu.
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Brazil is not that bad even if you are a simple medium class
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Brazil because they're bros.

China? Soulless
India? Poo in the loo
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>>62196814
Hong Kong is pretty much a SP with chinks
Dunno about a India though
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>>62197553
Those are some pretty outdated stats. Also, Brazil has a birthrate as low as most of western Europe now. It doesn't have anything to do with the zika meme because it was already low before that.
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>>62197620
wtf I love Mexico now
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Brazil. No question about it.

New Worlders 4 lyre.
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india
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>>62197458
Wouldn't you do the same in bunda land?
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>>62197857
We aren't doing that anymore: >>62197700
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>>62197963
Fix it immediately! I don't want a shortage of young qt BRs when I have my inevitable midlife crisis.
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>>62196814
Oh, now here comes the classic brazilian which suffers with inferiority complex that speaks that India and China are better than Brazil
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>>62196502
Brazil

I don't want to see(or smell) the Ganges and I don't want to risk being aborted if I'm reincarnated as a girl in China
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>>62196502

If I died, and had an entirely new set of life experiences, to what extent would I be the same person?
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Can i be a sick shaolin monk
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>>62198141
You wouldn't since you can't remenber your past life experiences so no matter what you would become would be irrelevant of what your current self is.
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BRAZIL BRAZIL
get me out of this shithole
REEEEEEEEE
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>>62198823
Are the memes true?
I heard you guys have extreme tribalism with each region living in its own bubble.
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Brazil. Definitely Brazil.

Culture is much less restrictive and suffocating than China or India.
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>>62198854
>extreme tribalism
Huh? They have their own languages and cultures in each state, if that's what you mean.

Hardly surprising when they were all separate kingdoms and shit.
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>>62196502
China
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>>62197465
Sucks to be black as well
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>>62196502
Brazil
Nigga, are you even trying?
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>>62197572
No they do not

China isn't Japan.
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>>62196502
Brazil without a doubt. I'd say the culture is more relatable than the others.
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>>62196502
Brazil
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Obviously Brazil.

Best future.
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>>62196502
China then go to Canada or Australia. If I can't leave, then Brazil
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>>62199780
>be Black in America or Brazil
>have human rights
>be a legal equal

>be Chinese
>choke on smog
>get hit by a car
>they kill you so you can't sue

Wowee, your Liberal Arts degree is showing
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>>62199848
>best future

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/brazil/gdp-growth-annual
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>>62199864
(Citation needed)

Japs are the most ignorant posters on 4chan.
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>tfw our image is so bad we're being compared to india and china
we're more like a hot russia
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>>62199922
Im on a foreign posting. Visited a lot of Asian countries because of my job.

India doesn't appeal so haven't visited, but China outside of Hong Kong is the worst place on the planet. Especially for the poor.
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>>62199988
>China outside of Hong Kong is the worst place on the planet.

Okay Abe
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>>62200004
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2015/09/why_drivers_in_china_intentionally_kill_the_pedestrians_they_hit_china_s.html

10 seconds of googlefu
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>>62200022
>slate opinion

Wow nice objective statistic from a reputable news source.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36446652
Here's India.

It's almost like third world countries are third world?
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>>62200134
India is also shit. Therefore China is not shit. Also, it's almost like the article had links to documented events, did you look at those?

Nice goal post moving, Comrade.
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Daily reminder that we virtually copied China's one child family law due to economic crisis.
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>>62200186
Where did I move the goalpost you autistic LDP faggot?
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>>62200186
You claimed here>>62199988

>China outside of Hong Kong is the worst place on the planet.

And now you claim
>India is also shit.
Which is it? Is China worse than India? Is China worse than Laos? NK?
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>>62196502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs
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>>62200244
>(Citation needed)
Citation was given.

You then argued that India is also bad, which is irrelevant to the point that China is shit. I'll concede my use of hyperbole in regards to "worst place on Earth." But the original point was China was a shithole and people murder their victims when they hit them with their car, thus the point stands that China is shit, and arguing that India is also shit to alleviate that and focusing on rhetoric rather than the original argument is goal post moving, Zhang.
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>>62200274
Well and good but the original post was:
>>62199864
Which you failed to argue against when given evidence, rather focusing on a throwaway comment.
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>>62196502
>>China
>small penis
>more men than women
>authoritarian government

>>India
>poo in loo

>>Brazil
>big negro penis
>bunda
>chance I might be "white"
>can move to Portugal

Brazil of course
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>>62200359
>slate opinion
>credible citation to describe and entire country of 1.4 billion people

Ahh well here's my ass as a citation for why Japan is going to get nuked again in the near future.
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>>62200420
You provided no sources for your argument either Abe.
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>>62200441
Are you actually autistic?

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/disturbing-stories-from-chinas-roads/news-story/9cdb5a1db6620d454a0ca96128f8cd6e

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.3218166/some-drivers-in-china-are-intentionally-killing-injured-pedestrians-1.3218168

The original fucking point was about the phenomenon of double hitting in China. Can you not stay on topic?
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>>62200420
>>be Black in Brazil
>>have human rights
>>be a legal equal

Uh no.
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>>62196502
India because they're slightly less subhuman than niggers and chinks, and there are some rural areas where waste removal isn't a problem. Plus you have a chance of being Muslim instead of shitdu

Brazil is tiny percentage white but it doesn't matter because they are degenerate commies

China is not even an option. I don't want to fall in an elevator and get my organs harvested and used for concrete filler
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>>62200532
>the original topic

No the original topic was this you autist>>62197465
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>>62200554
>China is not even an option. I don't want to fall in an elevator and get my organs harvested and used for concrete filler

Despite the memes, this happens more often in India and Brazil than China.
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>>62200554
>tiny percentage white

Not really. Majority is mixed but it's not like 90% or anything.
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Meh. Brazil or India. but more Brazil.
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>>62197297
If the Cup experience didn't turn them off, nothing else can.
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>>62200563
>>62200563
No it wasn't.

This was my first post and the one you demanded a citation for:
>>62199864

Although I seem to have accidebtally replied to Taiwananon. Phoneposting
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>>62200539
uh yes
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>>62200666
Your first post was not the topic. That's not how it worked.

When I asked for a source about blacks being treated as equal legals in Brazil, you provided a slate opinion article about car accidents in China.

Now go kill yourself Abe. You are a shitposter and have provided no source for your claims.

Furthermore, you make preposterous claims>>62199988
>China is the worst country in the world
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>>62200660
My family is of Portuguese descent but I lived here all my life. Would I be considered "white" in Brazil? Here I'm darker than the average Canadian, not exactly brown but not white either. maybe tanned. Just curious.
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>>62196983
Pardos would be considered blacks in america retard
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>>62200539
You're right. Blacks have MORE rights than white people here. Twice as much if they're poor.
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>>62200681
>there's no discrimination in the justice system of Brazil against blacks and pardos

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/03/24/opinion/vanessa-barbara-in-denial-over-racism-in-brazil.html
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>>62200744
Haha which is why they make up 95% of the prison population and are extensively poorer.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Brazil
http://unchronicle.un.org/article/racial-discrimination-and-miscegenation-experience-brazil/

You guys really are saying there is not discrimination against blacks in the Brazilian justice system?

The Brazilian police anon on /k/ describes it in perfect fashion every week.
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>>62196502
>you could be born into anybody's kid rich or shit poor
Rich Chink > Rich Poo > Rich Hue
Poor Poo > Poor Hue > Poor Chink

At least poor poos are happy, if nothing else.
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>>62200719
Actual niggers get off calling themselves "white" here. It's common for one to say they're "white, but sun-burnt". If you say you're white, most people will agree; if you're particularly swarthy, you may get confused looks, but that's it.

Ultimately, the boundaries of "whiteness" are quite loose here, because most BRs have a percentage of black ancestry.
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>>62200744
http://www.unesco.org/new/en/brasilia/social-and-human-sciences/ethnic-and-racial-relations/

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/lessons/brazil-in-black-and-white/discrimination-and-affirmative-action-in-brazil/?p=4323
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>>62200853
Poor Chinese are much happier than rich Chinese. Also, Chinese are much happier than Indians.

Indians have some of the lowest happiness/life satisfaction ratings in the world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report
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>>62200714
>constant goal post moving
>failure to respond to argument
>acknowledges exaggeration as the maint point of the argument
>ignores citations and sources
You make me ashamed to be American, Comrade Zhang
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>>62200830
>blacks commit crimes
>go to prison
>therefore prison system is racist
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>>62200946
>b-but anon what about muh happy poor people meme?!?

Sorry anon, starving isn't fun anywhere.
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>>62200734
and who gives a shit about what USA considers black or not?

>>62200554
47% is not tiny, retarded.
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>>62200975
Listen faggot, I asked for a source to this post>>62199864
You responded>>62199988
>China is the worst country in the world

I said "Okay Abe">>62200004

You then provided a slate article on car accidents in China>>62200022

And said "10 seconds in googlefu".

Could you please kill yourself now Abe?
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But Brazil is ze best tho.
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>>62200975
No you did not
Time to go back to 2ch Hiro.
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>>62201072
I gave you a source with the car accidents post, you fucking idiot. Also,
>not understanding hyperbole
>on 4chan
How new are you?

What are you even trying to argue?
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>>62200539
More than in america for sure
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Frankly they're all shit. India would be my quick and immediate NO because Indians are brown shitskins.

China is China and I don't want to be a chink, then again being a chink is preferable then being born a nigger or mestizo in Brazil. It's really tough but I'll take my chances with Brazil although only a quarter of the population is white.
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>>62201129
I FUCKING ASKED FOR A SOURCE FOR YOUR FIRST FUCKING POST HERE>>62199864

AND WHEN I ASKED FOR A SOURCE>>62199922
YOU RESPONDED>>62199988

NO WHERE DID YOU PROVIDE A SOURCE FOR YOUR FIRST POST>>62199864

YOU CLAIM YOU PROVIDED A SOURCE>>62200359

BUT YOU DID NOT. HOW ARE FUCKING CARS IN CHINA RELATED TO THIS POST>>62199864

HOW?!???!!??

KILL YOURSELF YOU NETOUYO
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>>62200830
Do you realize people have to be judged and convicted in order to be condemned? No judge sentences a man to prison because he's black. This is a ridiculously naive worldview, as one would expect from a sheltered American.

And blacks aren't "95%" of the prison population. Pardos are the vast majority. If you can call a pardo "black", you can call him "white" just as easily. Not that it makes a difference - """""racism""""" didn't make them steal and kill people.

>You guys really are saying there is not discrimination against blacks in the Brazilian justice system?
Yes I am. And if you consider how lenient our justice system is - something you have no idea about, no doubt - pardos and blacks have it far easier here than in most countries, including yours.
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>>62201196
be Chinese
>choke on smog
>get hit by a car
>they kill you so you can't sue

And that's how they're related. Just like it seems your parents were. You're not a clever guy, are you?
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>>62201196
Holy shit I got triggered. As Abe claims>>62201129
This is 4chan. Shitposting is the norm, and admitting a mistake is rare.

Alright. I'm outta here
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>>62201196
>HOW ARE FUCKING CARS IN CHINA RELATED TO THIS POST
>>62199864
>get hit by a car

. . . uhh . . .
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>>62201249
In all honesty, I think we were arguing different things. At least you admitted to not reading my post in full.
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>>62199933
Russia is getting shitter by the day, though. Sure, our economy is going down (momentarily), but we aren't arresting reporters and invading newspapers.
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>>62201238
No. Your first post ITT was in response to me>>62199864

Your second post in response to me asking (Citation needed) was here>>62199988

You did not provide a source. You instead claimed China was the worst country in the world.

>choke on smog
The post of your's that you are currently quoting is lower ITT.

Now go kill yourself Abe.
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>>62197553
actually, it's a significant difference.
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>>62200946

Bullshit, Albania is not that low in real life. Also Somalis in Somalia more happier than Serbs, Hungarians, Bosnians, Albanians, Kosovars? People in Europe are unhappy compared to shitskins negroes in a fucking war zone with no fucking government???
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>>62201255
I asked for a citation specifically on the treatment of blacks in America and Brazil you retard.

>>62201302
Where have I admitted anything?

You are obviously shitposting and won't admit your lies.
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>>62201324
Things will turn around in 2018. PT is dead, so we're through the worst part of it.
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>>62201368
they are poorer, more likely to be arrested/beaten up by cops and have quotas in universities.
pretty much the same as in the US but less hardcore.
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>>62201368
>I asked for a citation specifically on the treatment of blacks in America and Brazil you retard.

...Then why were you talking about, and I quote,

>FUCKING CARS IN CHINA

?
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>>62201255
My post asked specifically about the treatment of blacks in America and Brazil. Notice how my post the Nip responded to>>62199780
states that being black sucks
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>>62201368
>specifically
No you didn't. You simply said (Citation Needed). Then got triggered and proved your sub 90 IQ instead of explaining yourself :^)

>>62201330
Huh, I honestly forgot that. I can find sources on why being black in Brazil is better than living in China if you'd like.
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I saw a video the other day where NIGGERS in Brazil lurked in one streetcrossing in downtown Rio and attempted 27 robberies, often assaulting their victims!

Niggers in Brazil are worse than gypsies, in fact they're mega-gypsies.

Brazil will never be a good place until you gas the nigs.
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>>62197100
>>62197422
This.
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>>62197700
That seems wrong, you'd need to have a lot of women never having kids to compensate for the poor women who breed endlessly
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>>62201421
>...Then why were you talking about, and I quote,
>fucking cars in China

Uh because of his "citation">>62200022

>?
Are you retarded? Read the fucking post chain. My first post ITT is this>>62199780
which is the TOPIC of the post chain.

Jap can't just fucking change the topic because he wants and demand that I am the one moving the goalposts.
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>>62201453
That's only in Rio de Janeiro though.
I'm not saying there is no crime outside of it but there it's way worse.
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>>62201425
>My post asked specifically about the treatment of blacks in America and Brazil.
Yes, and my post was specifically about your erroneous statement regarding cars in China.

Glad we cleared that up!
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>>62201453
Have you seen the one where the robber gets robbed? that's fucking gold
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>>62201453
Rio is a hellhole. I would never visit Rio. Stay away from Rio. Everything depicted in City of God is real - in Rio. Rio just sucks.
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>>62197100

>Portuguese cool sounding language

Portuguese, especially the variety Brazilians speak sound like they have down-syndrome when ever their lips move
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>>62201443
>No you didn't.

Uh yes I did. (Citation needed) in response to a post making massive claims doesn't mean you can provide a source for literally one sentence in the entire post that I asked for a source for.

Your post was this
>>62199780 #
>be Black in America or Brazil
>have human rights
>be a legal equal

>be Chinese
>choke on smog
>get hit by a car
>they kill you so you can't sue

Now you can't just provide a source for the fucking cars when I asked for a source to your claims.

Watch
>all japanese are retarded
>all Chinese are retarded

Anon, I need a source.

>www.allchineseareretarded.com

Wow that totally provides a source for the entire claim!
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>>62201505
>about your erroneous statement regarding cars in China.

Where? Want to link this statement I made?
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>>62201512
I am tired of this meme.

Rio has less crime per capita than 90% of the state capitals.
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>>62201508
pls link

>>62201453
It's true. It's worse if they are a minor. Here, legally, if you commit a murder-rape-torture-serial killing spree just before you turn 18, you will be free in a year at most and when you are out all crimes are forgiven and it's as if it never happened.
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>>62201590
I quoted it in my first post.
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>>62201594
Yes,but it's still way worse than São Paulo.
Also, the kind of crime mentioned (niggers robbing tons of people near the beach) only happens there.
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>>62201597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kvLnx-Kw_I
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>>62201512

Every place in Brazil with niggers is hell. They shove guns to your face and shoot if you don't give them your shoes. Brazilian niggers are more savage than American and African niggers.
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>>62201603
No you did not. You quoted me asking how it was related to my (citation needed).

As I explain here>>62201562
you can't claim three things and when I ask for a source provide 1/3 of the evidence. That's not how it works.

He provided a source about ONE claim in his post. He made 3 claims.

In no way is his post related if it's a """"""source"""""" for one claim.
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>>62197458
Brazil: 205,338,000 / Density: 23.8/km2
USA: 323,969,599 / Density: 35/km2

Brazil (Fertility Rate): 1.64
USA (Fertility Rate): 1.89
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>>62201555
LIES, BRAZIL STRONG. BRASIL PORTUGUESE IS THE BEST PORTUGUESE. PORTUGAL PORTUGUESE IS SLAV-SOUNDING CREOLE OF TRUE PORTUGUESE - BRASIL PORTUGUESE. BRASIL PORTUGUESE BEST IN THE WORLD. LUSOSFERA BOWS TO BRAZIL PORTUGUESE. BRAZIL PORTUGUESE 200 MILLION, PORTUGAL PORTUGUESE - 1 MILLION??? BRSIL PORTUGUESE LITERARY SUPREMACY, 500 YEARS UNCHANGED, NOT A SINGLE LETTER CHANGED, BRASIL PORTUGUESE PUREST. BRASIL PORTUGUESE SUPERIOR. BRASIL IS TRUE KING OF PORTUGUESE LANGUAGE.
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>>62201631
>multi show
I smell a ruse
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>>62201631
That's a comedy sketch, man.
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>>62201747
>>62201759
Fun's over. Damn. Thanks for destroying it
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As a freedom loving American, I would choose Brazil.
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>>62196502
brazil

being a broke ass in china or india means geographically socially literally you never get anywhere else and stuck in poorness until the day you die. their languages are exclusive for them, thats also undesirable for poverty too.
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>>62196502
Brazil, not even a fucking contest...
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>>62201667
>No you did not.
Yes, actually. I did.

You're really good at being wrong. You must've had a lot of practice.
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>>62201466
>you'd need to have a lot of women never having kids

Exactly, just look at our middle and upper classes, lots of couples in their mid 30s with no children.

The bulk of our population growth is coming from the lower classes.
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>>62201667
But anon, the being black in Brazil being shit thing's burden of proof is on you because you made the claim.
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>>62197700
That chart is misleading as fuck, that's fertility rate, is actually theorical... Here's birth rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_rate

As you can see most of Latin America is already undergoing demographic transition and below replacement rate... Load of fucking bullshit...
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>>62201953
Hell, even MENA's birth rates aren't that high as most people think.
Niggers are going to inherit the earth and ruin it all.
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In all honesty it would be between China and Brazil. India is too overcrowded and hot
>China
Hong Kong and Shanghai seem great

>Brazil
Bunda
Beaches
South Brazil IZ GERMANIC
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niggers are going to inherit the western world

east asians will build a wall
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>>62201991
India will replace China as the most populated country on earth at some point in the coming decades, they'll also get a frighteningly miskewed male-female ratio... Some countries in North Africa still have healthy rates (what you'd want ideally is green) and the Middle East is grossly overpopulated which with coming conflicts over resources, picture related, is going to mean once the last few waves of migration die out in Latin America and China, Mexican migration to the US has been negative (more Mexicans returning to Mexico) since the 2008 recession, the overwhelming majority of migrants in the world will be Indian, Muslim or sub-Saharan Africa. Countries that avoid population aging and shrinking in order to mantain their economies growing, mostly the United States but apparently now Europe as well, will be forced to accomodate these people and their cultures as migration and refugees outflows will grow steadily.

Good news for Latin America IF we avoid migration to our countries, we are by far the most resource rich per capita region of the world and the least densely populated. We only need to close our borders to non-whites to be guaranteed will own the future...
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>>62201953
What depresses me is how the most developed states are deep below replacement. What depresses me the most? Those are overwhelmingly white families. Whites in Rio de Janeiro probably stopped having children at this point and stress is the main factor affecting fertility rates, matter of time before we die out and the whole country is turned into a shithole.

Also considering how favelados and other 'undesirable' types within our population breed like cockroachs, and nationwide we still have low fertility rates, so you can imagine the we'll be facing a serious problem in the next decades to come. I legitimately fear the whole country will be turned into a shithole, rather than appropriately solving this problem, that assuming S. Brazil doesn't secede by 2019, which is rather unlikely.
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>>62197458
>Jesus christ, you fuckers breed like roaches.

u wot m8
younger generations don't even want kids these days
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>>62201633
>Every place in Brazil with niggers is hell.
*Every place in the world with niggers is hell.
And the HDI is always proportional to the white population within the country. Everywhere you'll notice the same pattern - majority black = crime-ridden God's forsaken hellhole; majority white = high standards of living and overall quality of life.

And as the white population diminishes, so does quality of life. Detroit being a perfect example and now Europe as a whole going through the same problem, which might be irreversible unless they pull off a major stunt a la Reconquista.
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>>62202362
Jesus Christ someone nuke Africa
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>>62196502
China. Would be best if I got HK but otherwise it is still alright.
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>>62202520
...This.
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I know my country is a shithole and I want to get out of here as fast as possible but between China and India, I'd rather live here.
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>>62202461
I'm STRONGLY against whitening. Immigration never works, even if it's European immigration, and the USA/Canada are clear examples of that. I don't want forasteiros in my country, I want my people to have more children.

And the only place on Earth where it actually worked (that I know of) is Rio Grande do Sul, and perhaps Texas, where the European diaspora could fully assimilate with the culture and refer to themselves as Gaúchos/Texans, rather than """""German, Irish, Italian, etc."""""" and all those types you see throughout the Anglosphere. And both states being strongly patriotic ("Querência Amada" in Rio Grande do Sul and "Lone Star" in Texas). Immigration is like a disease for Nationalism because they'll never become true patriots. They have no History in the country, and therefore no past to be proud of. They'll remain outsiders in their own country of birth.

I also disagree with the caste system, I don't want that, that's bullshit. I don't want whites on top and minorities at the bottom, I just want my people being at the top where there's no bottom and we're all collectively aiming for the common goal of success and not quite giving a shit about forasteiros threatening our culture and how we rule ourselves.
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>>62202783
>I'm STRONGLY against whitening. Immigration never works, even if it's European immigration, I don't want whites on top and minorities at the bottom

Fuck off you monkey cuck. Just wait for the day f the rope.

> Immigration is like a disease for Nationalism because they'll never become true patriots.
I disagree.
>t. ozzy second gen immigrant
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>>62202854
Never seen such a thing as Australian nationalism. In fact, my aunt is married to an Irishman and both living in South Brisbane, and I don't think they would be categorized as "proud, nationalist Australians" by any means.
If something was to threaten your culture, those are the people who wouldn't do a thing to stop it, cause they're outsiders themselves so why would they bother with more outsiders coming in? That's their mentality, and the overall mindset of an immigrant, regardless of what the more traditional Australian families think.

Unless you have an incredibly powerful culture with basis on Romantic Nationalism/Nativism, such as that of Rio Grande do Sul and Texas, immigrants and their children will never become true patriots.
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>>62202783
You'll forgive if I don't share your sentiments on Texans, but not only did they fail to assimilate the traitorous son of bitches seceded and were only faithfull to their country of origin... I mean the fucking irony...

Low populations are not bad in the end even if some generations will pay the price for that as in Japan, it's not like millions will die without reproducing... You change the model to become more reliant on automation and make any worker all that more valuable. Of course that means adjusting to a model in which old people don't retire and working hours must be shorter, jobs not physically intensive... You also have to adjust living standards and expectations for corporate earnings, I agree ideally you want to do without any significant migration... Having said that what you're saying now, if you're the same guy I was talking to, is not consistent with what you said before >>62202218
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>>62202783
Stop being dumb.
RS and TX aren't special, all the american continent tends to be like that.
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France, because I might be poor or rich I don't care because of sical security
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