PȢмыниia eдишън
old>>60298111
/balt/
The romans were the rulers of Dacia for approximately 170 years (some say no more than 150). The first romanian states appeared around the year 1200, when there is a mention of some principalities (voievodates) north of the Danube in today's western Muntenia. Two of them (ruled by Litovoi and Seneslav) were considered at that time as belonging to romanians (vlachs). So between 275 and 1200 there is a time period of approximately 1000 years, and in this long period the romanians had not ruled the land, so it was hard for them to impose a language. I am not saying that romanian is not a romanic language, or the romanians are not descendants of the roman colonists, I am saying only that the genetic origin of the romanian population is very mixed, it is not pure romanic. Probably the dacian and slavic component (genetically speaking) is much more important than the romanic component (which also was not italic, but thracian, illiryan, etc.). And the language is not pure romanic, it has a strong slavic influence, maybe als a dacian influence, which cannot be determined today because there are no texts left in the dacian language. The slavs were assimilated in the process of cohabitation alongside the romanic population, but that romanic population did not rule the land, in fact the slavs ruled it at that time. The first romanian rulers had slavic names and it is thought that the original ruling class ("boyars") in old Romania was at first predominantly slavic, then became romanianized with the passing of time.
provinciali?
>>60308418
Romanians and non-romanians alike have today the possibility to read books about Romania written by specialists (historians, linguists, etc.). They can learn the truth easily from the internet, so propaganda like the one used 100 years ago is completely worthless, it's a waste of time and energy.
For example there is a book written by a known romanian historian (professor at the state university of Bucharest) which was a bestseller not long ago, being published in romanian in 1997, and in english in 2001. The name of the book is "History and Myth in Romanian Conciousness" and the author presents all the historical myths invented by some romanian historians, for example those used to "prove" the pure romanic origin of the romanian people and its language. The book discusses the lies about the romanian history that were used as a means of propaganda in Romania and abroad from 1800 until 1990 (the fall of communism). The book is available in english from Google Books and the chapter about the origin of romanians can be read almost in its entirety (only 1-2 pages are missing from the preview).
Lucian Boia: History and Myth in Romanian Conciousness
romanian tricolor was much cooler than their current vertical flag
>>60308404
Yea but that doesn't determine ethnicity in any way because >>60308484
>>60308505
The romanian identity was destroyed in the 19th century by the latinists, which did not want a true romanian identity, they wanted a LATIN identity for the romanians. This is why they modified the language, this is why they replaced the cyrillic alphabet with the latin alphabet, this is why they imported so many romance words. But this would not have been so bad if they stopped at the level of the language. However, they also tried to modify the romanian history, making things up. We can see today that some of their fantasies continue to be present in the minds of some romanians, mainly because the latinist propaganda was prevalent in schools and media, even in the 20th century, even under the communists. But as I said, there is nothing latin in the romanian people and civilization, all the latinity is to be seen in the romanian language (with a little help from the reromanization of the 19th century). So, the romanian identity as 'latin people" is based on a single thing, the language. It is understandable why many romanians react angrily when someone says that romanian sounds slavic. They perceive this as an attack on their "latinity", on their identity as romanians, even though it is not intended like that. It must be said that the majority of romanians are unaware of the link between romanian and the slavic languages, because in school nothing like this is taught at the classes of romanian language. On the contrary, the link between romanian and latin is greatly overemphasized ("romanian is the closest language to latin", etc.), of course without mentioning the process of reromanization from the 19th century.
>>60308238
of, asta inseamna sa cauti nod in papura. NU exista diferenta intre î și â fonetic. Original a fost â din a, comunistii au pus accentul pe î tocmai pentru ca era mai slavic. Totul depinde de context. î a fost bagat in alfabet pentru ca â la inceputul unei propozitii arata urat.
>>60308545
With regard to civilization, the romanian one looks like a balkan civilization, anyone can visit Romania to see this in real life. Again, what can be expected from a province that was colonized by the romans only for 170 years, after which many colonists leaved alongside the retreating army and administration? Almost sure all the persons that could perpetuate a roman civilization left also, because what else to do, try to civilize the "barbarians" (goths, sarmatians, free dacians) that invaded the abandoned province? All the remnants of the roman civilization in Dacia were quickly destroyed and nobody created again anything that could resemble roman civilization. After all, could anyone create anything important without having an alphabet with which to write the language? It would take probably 1000 years before the romanian language could be written for the first time, and not with the latin alphabet, but with the cyrillic one. The romanian civilization developed outside of the roman influences, more so because the roman empire collapsed in 476 AD and the byzantine empire from the east was a greek empire, not a roman one. That's why there are byzantine influences in the romanian civilization, but not roman influences.
>>60308512
*cringe*
But think a little. If they wanted to ressurect old words, presumably present in the very old romanian, why they'd choose to take them from french, and not from latin? The answer is very simple. There was a rift between the romanian intellectuals from Transylvania (ruled by Hungary at that time) and those from Wallachia + Moldavia. The first favored taking words from latin and italian, the latter favored taking words from french. This was because the first were mainly roman catholic (some of them also being priests) and the latter were influenced by the russians, who had adopted french as the language used by the nobility. In those times Wallachia and Moldavia were occupied for various time periods by the russians because of the recurring wars between the tsarist empire and the ottoman empire. These russian-turkish wars had also the result of Romania becoming an independent state in 1877, after hundreds of years of being under turkish rule as a vassal (dependent) protectorate. The russian officers, administrators and diplomats stationed in Wallachia and Moldavia spoke french, and so the romanian intellectuals were influenced to embrace the french culture as a mean toward modernization (occidentalization) of the society. The choice between french and latin-italian linguistic imports was a no-brainer, because french culture was at that time the most prestigious culture in the world and the french language was used in international affairs. That does not mean the imports from latin or italian were stopped, but they were greatly reduced in favor of french imports. This trend continued well into the 20th century, when Romania was a true francophone country, with an important percentage of the educated population knowing the french language. Nowadays, after 1990, Romania is a francophone country in name only, the level of french language proficiency having decreased sharply in favor of english.
>>60308602
Are you an anticki?
>>60308418
>I am saying only that the genetic origin of the romanian population is very mixed, it is not pure romanic
No one has said this after the 18th-19th century, when ethnic science became more understood. But we're not as mixed as you and memers keep saying. We still have a dominant l2 phenotype and many romanians look the same (square-ish flat head).
>>60308631
image is cringe тbh, what the fugg even are churvashia, taraciia
>>60308626
At the beginning of the 19th century it was decided by the romanian intellectuals from Wallachia, Transylvania and Moldavia to switch romanian writing from the cyrillic alphabet to the latin alphabet. However, things did not go smoothly, as it should have been, because of the latinist propagandists that had another thing in mind. The change of the alphabet was only the beginning of their intended journey toward their actual goal, that of creating a latin identity for the romanian people. So, the latinists, grouped under the umbrella of a socio-cultural movement named Transylvanian School ("Şcoala Ardeleană" - in romanian) were not happy with a simple transliteration from cyrillic to latin alphabet, they actually wanted to change the language, so as to be as close to latin as possible. Remember that the last speakers of latin on the present-day romanian territory lived in the 3rd century AD, so the romanian language from the 19th century AD was not at all close to latin, which was normal and happened also with the other romance languages. But this has not stopped the romanian latinists from trying to do some "plastic surgery" on the romanian language, to make it more latin-like.
It actually is possible to see today a text that was written in parallel with latin and cyrillic script, in order to compare the two types of writing and decide which was better.
It is easy to see that the romanian language written with the cyrillic alphabet is very much similar to the language used today, whereas the romanian language written with the latin alphabet is very strange and clearly different from the language spoken now in Romania.
>>60308631
vanilla buggerian
>>60308683
Your nation is cringe.
>>60308688
The version written in cyrillic alphabet is much more close to the language of today than the version written with the latin alphabet. This is because the latinist version was actually not the true romanian language of that time, but a language heavily modified in order to look more latin. We also see in the latinist version the complete lack of the letter Ş, that designates an essential sound of the romanian language. What was on the mind of latinists who excluded the Ş sound from romanian? Did they believe they could get away with that? Also, the latinists used "quele" instead of "cele" ; "quei" instead of "cei" ; "dopò" instead of "după" ; "aquesta" instead of "aceasta" ; "quare" instead of "care", etc.. They also used "sunt" instead of "sînt". These words used by the latinists were latin ("sunt"), italian ("dopo") or were indeed romanian, but modified in order to be written like in latin or italian (quele, quei, aquesta, quare). There are many more examples in the text that demonstrate the will of the latinists to transform romanian into a strange latino-italian dialect.
The linguistic innovations of the latinists (based mainly in Transylvania) were not received well in Wallachia and Moldavia. This caused fiery disputes between the latinists and those that wanted a true romanian language, not a latino-italian dialect. Add to this the founding of the Romanian Academy as a latinist hotbed and you get a mess that lasted for almost 100 years, time in which anyone could write in romanian as he wanted, because there were no clear rules.
>>60308722
is that ur OC or something, why so offended
>>60308683
the Chuvash are the supposed descendants of Volga Bulgars
>>60308733
The big problem for the latinists was that the population (including the transylvanian one) did not understand the latino-italian dialect and hated it. The population wanted its romanian language, not an artificial language invented by some hotheads that dreamt of being romans. Little by little the latinists understood they were fighting a losing battle, because no artificial language has ever replaced a natural language. But they were not ready to give up, unless some concessions were made for them. Two of those concessions were: to write  instead of Î in the middle of the words and to use "sunt" instead of "sînt". At last, after a very long and nonsensical linguistic struggle, the ortographical reform from 1904 could offer for the romanian language a writing that was comparable with the writing in cyrillic alphabet from 100 years ago. But this new writing was not the best one. Actually it was illogical, because it used two letters (Î and Â) for the same sound (Î = close central unrounded vowel = barred I). The choice between the letters Î and  was based on the location of the sound inside the word (Î letter at the beginning or end of the word and  letter inside the word). This was completely non-standard for the romanian language, where all the other sounds were being written with a single letter, regardless of the position of the sound in the word. The 1904 ortography was also exhibitionistic and deceitful, because it used "sunt" (a latin word that never before existed in romanian) instead of "sînt" (the romanian word used by the population when speaking).
>>60308776
The link between romans and romanians in the popular conscience was established in modern times, after the romanian nobility began to study abroad, especially in countries where latin was the official language of the state and church. They learned latin or greek, so they could read the works of ancient or more modern historians. But unfortunately with knowledge arrived also the propaganda and the first propagandistic statements about the origin of romanians can be read in the works of the early romanian chroniclers. Also, these early chroniclers were also the first that tried to latinize the romanian language by using a syntax more close to latin and by importing words of latin origin. Of course the impact of this early latinization of the language was nowhere near the one from the 19th century reromanization.
The expression "de la Rîm ne tragem" [we descend from Rome] is from the work of Grigore Ureche (1590 - 1647), considered the first moldavian chronicler. He established a direct link between romans and romanians on the basis of similarities of language alone (he compared latin "panis" with romanian "pîine", latin "caro" with romanian "carne", etc.).
>>60308760
No, it's not.
>>60308813
The second moldavian chronicler was Miron Costin (1633 - 1691), who wrote a more lengthy discourse about the origin of romanians. He presented the wars between romans and dacians, the conquest and colonization of Dacia. Miron Costin was not an historian and unfortunately he was the first romanian propagandist, because he made some greatly exaggerated claims about the roman rule in Dacia. For example he said that the romans colonized all the territory between the rivers Danube and Dniester, which meant the regions of Wallachia and Moldavia (including the present-day Republic of Moldova). This was not the case, the roman colonization was only in the regions of Oltenia, Banat and Ardeal, but Miron Costin wanted to present the moldavians as direct descendants from the romans, so that's why he used completely untrue statements. He also asserted that the roman colonists in Dacia were from Italy, which is also untrue, the vast majority of them being non-italian. And what's most revealing is the fact that he traced behavioral parallels between the moldavians and the italians, saying that anyone who has ever been to Italy could instantly see that italians and moldavians are the same people. But of course Miron Costin never visited Italy and he based his assumptions on some supposed resemblance between the lifestyle of moldavians and italians... The romanian propagandists of today are using propaganda that was actually invented by Miron Costin in the 17th century.
Both Grigore Ureche and Miron Costin lived a big part of their early life in Poland, where their families were exiled. Miron Costin returned in Moldavia after living his first 20 years in Poland, where he had studied at a jesuite college. In Poland the official language of state and church was latin, so both Ureche and Costin learned latin and read the history books available in the polish libraries.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house
never forget.
>>60308761
what about "taraciia"?
>>60308855
A third chronicler that wrote about the origin of romanians was Constantin Cantacuzino (1650 - 1716), who was the most knowledegeable from all the romanian chroniclers, because he studied in Edirne (Hadrianopolis), Istanbul (Constaninople) and Padova. He knew italian, latin and of course greek (he was half-greek, from his paternal lineage). Knowing both latin and greek allowed him to read much more than the previous chroniclers and to use more diverse sources for his writings. This is why his work is close to the modern historical works. Constantin Cantacuzino is the first romanian to say that the roman colonists were brought in Dacia from all over the Roman Empire, just like the historians of the Antiquity said and like the inscriptions found on the territory of the roman province of Dacia proved. He mentions the ethnic cleansing of the dacians by the romans, but he says not all the dacians were killed or exiled. He is also the first to say that romanians are not direct and exclusive descendants of romans, because they actually are of mixed genetic origin, just like the other peoples.
>>60308597
>Almost sure all the persons that could perpetuate a roman civilization left also, because what else to do, try to civilize the "barbarians" (goths, sarmatians, free dacians) that invaded the abandoned province? All the remnants of the roman civilization in Dacia were quickly destroyed and nobody created again anything that could resemble roman civilization.
Not civilisation as a whole, but
>>60308900
This latinist propaganda built around the relationship between latin and romanian is partly responsible for the poor state of the romanian language today. The latinists fueled the public opinion that romanian is only worthwile because it derives from latin, so the only value of romanian is in its relationship with latin. This is why they strenghtened this relationship by reromanizing the language. Unfortunately for them, they had not foreseen the fact that latin would eventually lose his international reputation and this would engender also a loss of reputation for romanian, inside Romania no less. This is what happened after 1990 and is very easy to see. Today almost nobody inside Romania truly cares about latinity, the latin language or the latin-romanian relationship except in the presence of non-romanians. Also, a sizable part of the population had the tendency to abandon romanian and embrace english, as is majoritarily seen in the case of software. For the non-romanians that visit Romania this evolution is very strange, to the point of being unbelievable, like it is described in the quote below taken from a blog post.
>>60308880
I had no idea but apparently it's some town in Moldova whose half of the population is Bulgarian
>>60308939
The latinist propaganda created the myth of Romania as a latin island in a slavic sea, populated by a people of italian origin who spoke a language very close to latin. Because of that lie, many romanians feel like they are some italians exiled in Eastern Europe, whereas their true land is in Western Europe, together with the other "latin" peoples. The catastrophic scenario used by the latinists to scare the population, about a hostile slavic sea that threatens to engulf the latin island has created a mentality of "besieged castle", that sooner or later will be overrun. And what to do in order for the population of the latin island to continue to be latin? Of course, emigrate from "the island" to "the continent", from Romania to Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, countries that are not threatened by the "slavic tide". The continuous latinist propaganda from the last 200 years made romanians to feel uneasy and depressed about their country and language, and it is a factor that contributed to the depopulation of Romania seen after 1990.
>>60308988
This prolonged discussion about the romanian language and people is a testimony to the fact that no country should ever brainwash its citizens, because the end result is a people that has lost his identity and with this comes the losing of the bond between the people and his native land and language. Aside from that, some consequences of propaganda are really the opposite of the intended ones. For example the latinist strategy from the 19th century served as a trojan horse that greatly helped after 1990 in the anglicization of the romanian language. And the fact that the true romanian identity was suppressed in favor of a latin identity had the effect of transforming romanians into a people of copycats that lack originality and creativity, always wanting to superficially imitate the dominant nation from the world stage. This tendency has been also transferred to the language, which was modified by the cultural elites from the 19-20th centuries in order to imitate latin and french and now is modified by the population in order to imitate american english. Today's orthography tends to not have any rules as long as it concerns the words recently imported from english, that must not be adapted to romanian in any way, so they can show clearly their english origin. The funny thing is that today the latinization propagandists are vastly outnumbered by the globalization (americanization) propagandists. All the latinist propaganda unleashed on the romanians in the last 200 years ultimately had no effect on the population, who now wants to embrace not latinity, but americanity. And this is normal, because the latinists want the population to look towards the distant past, but today's population wants to look to the present. Of course, the best course of action for the future would be a rejection of the latin or american simulated identities, together with the development of a genuine and modern romanian identity, alongside a genuine and modern romanian language.
Hurray for + HELLENIC GAMER GRILS +
>>60309047
There are multiple reasons that concurred in order for this linguistic evolution (maintenance of a romance language) to take place. First of all, it must be said that none of the migratory populations of that time (slavic, turkic, asian, german) intended to impose its language upon the autochtonous population. But there was also something else, related to practicality. It would have been impractical for the latinophone population to abandon its language and take another one. Even today many people have problems learning foreign languages, so one can imagine just how hard was in the old times for a whole population (hundred of thousands or several millions persons) to learn a completely new language. So, it was also about inertia, which is understandable. Aside from that, the languages of the migratory peoples were not better or more prestigious than the modified vulgar latin spoken by the autochtonous population. It would have been unreasonable to discard it in favor of these other languages. Today, it is a completely different matter, mainly because of the exhibitionistic approach to the language which was instilled by the latinists. The romanian language of today is seen by a good part of the population as being inferior to english, and there are some that say romanian should be abandoned everywhere (not only in the realm of computers) and english should be used instead, because it is considered better and more prestigious than romanian.
Greeks hate this cutie.
>>60308988
>The latinist propaganda created the myth of Romania as a latin island in a slavic sea, populated by a people of italian origin who spoke a language very close to latin. Because of that lie, many romanians feel like they are some italians exiled in Eastern Europe, whereas their true land is in Western Europe, together with the other "latin" peoples. The catastrophic scenario used by the latinists to scare the population, about a hostile slavic sea that threatens to engulf the latin island has created a mentality of "besieged castle", that sooner or later will be overrun. And what to do in order for the population of the latin island to continue to be latin? Of course, emigrate from "the island" to "the continent", from Romania to Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, countries that are not threatened by the "slavic tide". The continuous latinist propaganda from the last 200 years made romanians to feel uneasy and depressed about their country and language, and it is a factor that contributed to the depopulation of Romania seen after 1990.
Now you're just memeing. You had a thing going but then you decided to go full retard. People don't migrate because "hurr durr we wuz romans", people migrate because they want safety and money. Not sure at what school you went and what you were told, but the history we were taught in our school was the unbiased history and not the communist propaganda, warts and all.
>>60309092
It's not a secret for any historian that the colonists brought by the romans in Dacia were not italians, but mainly from the eastern provinces of the Roman Empire (Asia Minor, Middle East) and from northern Africa. They were also from the regions situated south of the Danube (Thracia, Moesia, Illyria) and from other parts of the empire. These are, from the roman side, the ancestors of the present-day romanians, those that brought with them the latin language learned in their native lands, which were longtime roman provinces.
>>60309150
Stop spamming already.
>>60309150
The problem with the romanian identity was caused by the lies concocted in the 19th century and the subsequent propaganda. If the romanians were not brainwashed for 200 years into thinking they are descendants exclusively from italian colonists and dacians, they would have accepted the slavs as ancestors from a long time ago, because the romanians have an obsession with them being true europeans. The slavs that settled in the 5th-9th century AD in what is now Romania were europeans, whereas many of the roman colonists who arrived in Dacia between 106-270 AD were not europeans. The slavs actually strenghtened the european genetic roots of the present-day romanian population. Romanians are a people with genetic ancestry not only from Europe, but also from Asia and Africa. This is an advantage, not a disadvantage. The americans of today are a much ethnically diverse population and they don't care, actually they encourage this diversity with their official immigration program. If the romanians of today admire the americans so much, they should also adopt the american view regarding their ethnic origin, that diversity is better. The strenght of a country is not dependent on the ethnic origin of the population, but on its desire to work toward building a powerful civilization.
The romanians were taught to reject their true ancestors and to love some fictional ancestors, invented by the latinist propagandists from the 19th century. This was a completely stupid thing to do, and the alienation of today's romanians is a result of this wretched strategy.
>>60309188
Okay.
>>60309124
this pic always gets me
Цигaнcкa cгaн! Изгoнeтe ги вcички! Mpaзя тeя бoклyци!
Цигaнcкa cгaн! Изгoнeтe ги вcички! Mpaзя тeя бoклyци! Цигaнcкa cгaн!
Изгoнeтe ги вcички! Mpaзя тeя бoклyци! Цигaнcкa cгaн!
Изгoнeтe ги вcички! Mpaзя тeя бoклyци! Цигaнcкa cгaн!
>>60309304
wew, fucked up formatting
Anyhow, that's the lesson for today, /balk/.
>Romanians at it again
>>60309198
Thanks for posting all this, Österreich. I'll be sure to look into some of book suggestions you posted earlier.
Also, for any Bulgarians here willing to help me out. I'm looking for decent English/German for season 2 (and on) for Pod Prikritie. I've found some myself, but they're terrible. I've picked up quite a bit of Bulgarian from the first season and I'd like to continue watching.
>>60309356
vrei sa auzi o gluma?
>>60309356
was that an original piece? It had to many grammar mistakes to be quoted from somewhere. If so, BRAVO...
>>60309443
My pleasure.
>>60308988
>And what to do in order for the population of the latin island to continue to be latin? Of course, emigrate from "the island" to "the continent", from Romania to Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, countries that are not threatened by the "slavic tide".
Yeah, it totally hasn't anything to do with the fact that western countries are richer and among them, romance countries are easier to integrate in, due to similar language and culture.
Next you will tell me aromanians emigrated here because of propaganda.
>>60309443
Where did you get your subs? Addic7ed, or?
Austria flag, if all what you have written here is original, you should really write a book about this. It outclasses Napoleon Săvescu's and Neagu Djuvara's theories.
Wew what is with all the autism going on in this thread? So we wuz romans and shieet, dacians and shieet or slavs and shieet?
>>60309849
hei tu
>>60309564
I got the subs for season 1 from Addic7ed, but they didn't have any for the other seasons. I tried using subtitles from opensubtitles and english-subtitles.pro for season 2, but their quality is quite poor. With a lot of lines I have no idea what the translator meant to convey.
haha what the fukfc
>>60309956
What's the video's format?
Lads what is some tall building in Sofia I could easily get in and jump from. I want 10+ floors
How do we fix Moldova? When will they stop drinking, raping and blaming Bucharest?
>>60310212
Capital Fort
>>60310232
bășină
>>60310319
But is it easy to get in? Because most buildings liek that require you to pass security and prove you have something to do there. And can I jump off a windows easily?
>>60309198
This was an interesting read m8. Even you guys are full wewuz mode, true balkanlars.
>>60310379
Moldova noastra, nu aia a rusilor..
>>60310398
Then Millenium Center. Should be pretty easy to get in.
>>60310442
Глeд тy вi oф хeлп.
moreta
>>60310532
The one that's still under construction? Thats sounds good.
>>60310124
They're Xvid encoded. I'm using the WEB-DL.XviD-TBO version from kat.
>>60310577
Yiff in hell furfag.
>>60310858
does romania even have a national animal
you don't even have a "tri moreta", "remove kebab" etc meme
largest population and still the biggest non-country
>>60310972
I guess you haven't seen our CoA.
>>60310232
When people like Radu and all of Vaslui will be ethnically cleansed.
>>60311013
is that leftover from rome
>>60311066
No. Our earliest minted coins have an eagle with a cross on them, which became Wallachia's CoA, and because Wallachia made everyone its' bitch, the eagle with the cross now dominates the CoA and is our national animal, alongside pelicans, because they're mondo cool.
ded?
>>60308733
>wanted a true romanian language, not a latino-italian dialect
So they went ahead and made a Franco-Wallachian one instead...
>>60308813
>after the romanian nobility began to study abroad
They were intellectuals, not nobles.
>>60308988
>Because of that lie, many romanians feel like they are some italians exiled in Eastern Europe, whereas their true land is in Western Europe, together with the other "latin" peoples.
Actually, the only reason they prefer Latin countries is because of the similarity in language. Thus, even uneducated savages can understand what is being said to them.
>>60309198
>The romanians were taught to reject their true ancestors and to love some fictional ancestors, invented by the latinist propagandists from the 19th century.
Actually, the vast majority are obsessed with the Dacians, even though they speak lingua romana (limba română)...
Where are you quoting this from, anyway?
>>60312251
Caт дe фaк aп фгт))))))
>>60312251
Autism killed it.
Also, convince me to fall for the Nicusor Dan meme because I'm seriously thinking of just writing dick on my voting paper.
>>60312336
He's quoting it from himself because he wrote all this retarded tripe.
>>60312389
revamp la trafic?
https://www.nicusordan.ro/traficul-si-transportul-public/
>>60312447
Nu folosesc masina, dar daca descheaga traficul din centru, am sa-l votez.
Finished
>>60312389
I was saying the thread is dead, not Nicusor. But he still has a chance...I think. Doesn't matter, I'm moving to Cluj anyway
>>60312501
cred ca e singurul care e ok, Firea e o scarba baka
>>60312593
Hmm I think I've seen this in instructables or sth
look what i found today in sofia downtown
>>60312595
>Moving to Cluj
Enjoy your niggers, arabs and moroccans.
>>60312862
>>60312908
>>60312830
never claimed the idea, tho
google "lightbulb vase"
this one is for muh wife's work desk
>>60312947
"it gives wisdom, and takes it away."
>>60312961
That's sweet 2bh
Making your wife handcrafted shit :^)
>>60312985
and final one, tittays
>>60312907
>dar toate muierile alea daco-romano-maghiaro-germane totusi
>>60312985
>aкъл
>wisdom
I'd have to disagree
>>60312862
>>60312908
>>60312947
>that Prussian vault
that cellar totally looks like the Ale House (http://sofia.alehouse.bg/)
but i guess all old building cellars in Sofia downtown looks like that
>>60313015
oh, look it's that kid again
so, tell us lad, why the butthurt?
>>60312961
It's a nice construct, indeed
>>60313189
>us
How arrogant.
>>60313015
https://kiwifar.ms/threads/julie-terryberry.18477/page-50
How the fuck did you search for this disgusting picture you fucking underage cuck
this general is a shitfest
fuck every single one of you
>>60313487
gypsy stole your car, nigger?
>>60313414
The XIDF is onto me, they can now employ search engines against me, what shall I do?
>>60313414
his butthurt is so big, he literally does magic, as it perfectly fits for a tfwnogf wizard like him
>>60313740
Why on earth is he even butthurt about you? I mean you don't even know each other personally in order to wage such a stupid "rivalry"
WHO ARE YOU ?
>>60313961
i am anon
>>60313931
because he's an underage looser, probably. kids these days are always angry at random things and when you add up the waste of sperm he is...
>>60313740
This amount of cringe isn't even observable on reddit.
>>60313931
judging by this >>60314153 it seems he's the redditor that calls everyone reddit
i was always suspecting this, but damn, that's actually funny
>>76003792
>>76003792
>>76003792
>>76003792
>>76003792
>>60314138
REPORTED
>>60308391
>gypsy edition
>>60315195
Shouldn't you be busy getting killed by russians?
>>60315195
Why do Romanians hate you? Why are they always edgy about their neighbors?
>>60315310
Because they used their size to bully us out of some isles in the Black Sea, they have romanian majorities areas that have been part of Ukraine and russia for less time than they've been part of Romania/Moldova and their government just has a really shitty political attitude towards us. Besides, we're not edgy towards our neighbors. We hate Hungarians as as a joke but the only ones we truly despise are Ukrainians and Russians because of their external relations with us.
>>60315310
this>>60315414
and also we needs our clay back
>>60315253
Nope
>>60315310
Because im ukrainian. They are believed that ukrainians occupied romanians regions,
>>60315310
>Why are they always edgy about their neighbors?
Just people we've had turf disputes with.
We don't have no beef with Serbia or Bulgaria.
>>60315843
>They are believed that ukrainians occupied romanians regions
I have no idea what that means and we don't even think about you in a ww2 context. We dislike you based purely on the post-1990 politics and external affairs of your governments. I actually don't even want to call it hatred because we seriously don't think about you at all until reminded about how shit you are.
daily reminder
ayo we wuz bulgarian n shiet
trimoreta my niggas
>>60315918
nigga you cannot hate Ukrainians and Russians at teh same time. they are at war. you must pick sides.
>>60316106
I'm on my side and they both fucked us over (or tried to fuck us over in Ukraine's case, since they can't do anything right).
Hey, Romaniafags, what beers should i try in romania?
Im asking about your domestic shit that you have in supermarkets, not that microbreweries type
Who'll be the first victim in FYROMian quest for relevance?
>>60316235
Timisoreana and Black Silva. Don't touch Ursus.
>>60316264
give me some more. Gf is in romania for a week, i think she can carry more then 2 bottles
>>60315843
So literally the romanians are the albos of the northern balkans? (we wuz kings, big albania etc)
>>60316244
nobody
when we rule the world all will benefit
we are merciful masters
>>60316368
>>60316363
I don't think romania is that bad in terms of nationalism.Nobody can beat autochtonous illyrian autism anyway.
>>60316332
Timisoreana and Silva are really the best on the market. If you want more, you can try Ciucas, but I recommend just getting a shitton of the former two.
>>60316363
Please don't equate /int/ memes with real life. Seriously nobody gives a shit here and nobody has ever really given a shit. Even if we tried, we'd never be able to reach Albanian or Skopje levels of retardation.
>>60316408
slightly wrong, replace that shitter with salam or whatever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmEnmr_yBxg
also those yt comments
>>60316491
thanks
if you fucked me im gona kill you m8
>>60316668
He told you the classic commercial ones, try Nenea Iancu.
>>60316668
Why would I lie to you? I'm just telling you from all I've tried. Also, she should buy either glass bottles or tin cans. The one in plastic bottles isn't as good.
>>60313414
So, wait... that's not his wife? Some random picture taken from the internet?
Can somebody post that smug pepe at the borders keeping away Kebab then Refugees ? Probably bulgarian too
Thx in advance
>>60316766
jk m8
yeah shes getting glass bottles, im collecting caps
![proxy[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/aZwm7ns.jpg "proxy[1].png")
>>60313414
λμαο
>>60316785
Of course it's not, the 9gagger kid made it all up
>>60316932
you're mixing up at least two different people
>>60316932
I'm the "9gagger", idiot, and i dindu nuffin'.
>>60316408
this is the updated one
>>60316650
sorry but fyro of alexander does not know of such people in its realm
>>60317209
Someone add Serbia. Don't make me do it.
>>60316932
Any and everyone who I do not like is that one person I hate.
>>60317209
How saturated are REMOVE KEBAB memes here anyway ?
>>60317358
historically inaccurate, remove kebab guy did not fight for croatia. in fact, catholic croatia btfo'd orthodox serbia. an arab-tier conflict, not yet surpassed by the ukr-ru war.
>>60317464
>tfw can't differentiate the Croatian flag from te Serbian one
aw well
>>60317358
>that pic
is macedonia the only country gypsy free?
hi gays
>>60317522
can you differentiate a camel from your wife though?
>>60317573
hi cuck
>>60317572
the Golden Macedonian nation is the essence of perfection
>>60317632
how are you
>>60317583
>implying
>>60317654
also the progenitor of all white people (together with Romania)
>>60317654
thisThisTHIS.
>>60317675
fucking tired, also somewhat drunk and high
>>60317743
the bum on her la.
>f-fuck the police
>>60317743
kako da jebem bugarke?
>>60317874
>be handsome
>have money
works every time
>>60317743
where is my vodka
>just broke the oven's front window
What do?
>>60317933
You better hope Erdogan lets you keep ethanol on your property in the near future.
>>60318017
replace it
>>60318017
cut your feet on the broken glass and bleed off into the next world
>>60318017
how the fuck did you do that?
>>60318028
>You better hope Erdogan lets you keep ethanol THIS Thrace alcohol everywhere
why is it that the poor uneducated people get the same vote as richfags?
what is the purpose of meaning?
>>60318105
>finishing off some meat with sauce
>pull the dish too fast
>it spills onto the door as it comes out of the oven
>hear a loud crack
>look down
>the glass is in thousands of pieces
It's an old oven too, can't find replacement parts for it.
guys, seriously, how do we make moldovians great again? Invest in moldova?
>romanian Moldova, not the russian one
>>60318592
Can I eat bear meat in Brasov?
>>60318592
Kill all the rapists and alcoholics.
>>60318614
Yes, actually.
>>60318531
it must've been worn out
i could understand it if sauce was cold or some shit but not like this man
>>60318627
I am sorry bears, but I must try that. They eat crocodile in 'straya.
>>60318770
I'm pretty sure that would happen to any kind of commercial glass. The sauce was hot as fuck.
>>60318773
Ask if the bear is killed in fall, it tastes better because of it Ate berries.
>>60318859
yeah apparently the diet of the bear makes a big difference, but I can't imagine there's too many salmon in Moldova to spoil the meat..
>>60318859
>>60318914
noted
>mail came today
>blizzard offering me 7 free days and the latest expansion of wow for free
>finished with exams for now, free for like a month
>gonna download it tomorrow, shut the blinds, fire up the air conditioning, buy 6x2l of coke, order fast food throughout the day and just remind myself of 2010 when I last played
its gonna be a good fucking week
>>60319143
play some total war like a real man
Not enough t*rk memes
>>60319176
what total wars are good anon. I like me a strategy game but haven't touched that series.
>>60319188
the ""real"" pic of Effendi cracks me up.
>>60319176
gonna have to take a break for this
warhams is kinda boring though guess its because it's not historical
vojvoda is back in parliament
fun times are coming guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_HDpySPpKk&feature=share
>>60319298
>what total wars are good anon.
Shogun II is great.
Is any qt in here
>>60320100
no:_)
>>60319188
pretty informative
>>60320100
Yes, but we all hate her.
death to america
>>60320541
Good post
>>60320777
Good digits
>>60320777
we are honored to have you here, memi-sama
back by popular demand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IomxvOTf-So
>>60319188
Needs Effendi or the neanderthal looking one for Turkey
Slavs, why is Rusia such a cunt? Why can't we all be friends?
>>60322317
China is worse than Russia, India is worse than China.
>>60322317
Remember our gold?
>>60313414
fucking lol
so you're telling me the pic thats been posted of a woman for over a month is actually a crossdressing faggot?
>>60322739
How so? Can't wait for China to colonize Siberia and fuck Russia in the ass.
>>60308391
does former commies count?
dank memes
Do bulgarians see themselves like slavified tatars?
Good morning, friends.
>>60324444
Yes it is, master of Fours
>>60316862
>im collecting caps
4000 kek!
i though i'm the only autist who do that
hello newfriends
>>60329148
only autistic balkanites see us as tatars
we see ourselves as: bulgarians > bulgars > slavs > thracians
for everyone's it's different, but i'd say that's the majority
>>60330468
no one cares orthodox turk
>>60330488
that one swedecuck literally asked a question
>>60330488
:DDDD ᵍʳᵉᵉᶜᵉ pls
Good morning my cuckolded friends. Today I will hang out with my girlbros and gossip about other people while you post memes here.
I'm lmaoing at your lifes t b h. Except Corfu ofc he is based.
Good morning fellow balkanci
>>60330887
How are you?
>>60330887
Good morning, my friend!
>Finally finishing my Master Thesis after years of slacking off
>It objectively doesnt look good even after I've spent a few hundred hours on it
>Strategy is be confident and hope to pass through the defense with minimal score
>Deep inside im depressed and sense that I will fail
Why does it ALWAYS have to be this way?
>>60330959
what happens if you fail
>>60331031
I get to try one more time. Just one. I don't know if i need to write something completely new from the bottom though. If this is the case i will kms.
Ελληνες του /βαλk/ ξερετε αν μπορώ να αγοράσω μεσώ του steam kανονιkά η αν θα χρειαστώ steam wallet cards kαι αν ναι που μπορώ να βρω τέτοιες εάν kατοιkώ εkτός Αθηνας kαι Λαρισας
>>60331061
Same here. A new fresh thesis and lots of time lost. Wish you luck tho. Act confident, make supervisor like you and accept you. They can always use the " not enough but you have potential to improve so I'll give you a chance " card t b h.
>>60331101
Ελλάδα λεμονάδα
>>60331101
με debit card δεν ειχα πρόβλημα να αγοράσω από steam
>>60331145
Ty senpai thats the idea
>>60331061
>>60331145
here you are constantly in contact with your supervisor and if you want you only submit it if he/she tells you that it is perfect and you will get an excellent grade
finally exams are over and I think I passed them all
Hello Balkan friends. How is smoking viewed in your specific country, and how common is it?
>>60331308
What a beautiful Bulgarian lady
>>60331377
very common here
BERNIE SANDERS HAS BRAIN CANCER
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY PRAISE KEK
>tfw recently I started to notice everyday a nigger walking in the city
>tfw I see gypsies rarer than niggers and arabs
I don't know how to feel about this lads.
>>60331930
maybe you should look in the mirror you filthy provincial
Rip in peace Muhammad Ali
>>60331957
Calm down Mitica I know you are mad because niggers will compete with you regarding cigarettes contraband and shawarma making jobs.
>>60331930
I saw one of them with a white woman in the park a couple of weeks ago...
>>60332021
im sure hes in nazi hell right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVpfcq4pV5U
That's right, you fucking balkaniggers
You will never become Greeks, you will always be an inferior dirty race. Greeks have everything and they're blessed by god
We have
Best bitches and beaches around [X]
Actual three sea access [X]
Biggest navy on the Earthy [X]
Hottest men on Earth [X]
Actually white people [X]
Beautiful villages and towns [X]
2 times hosted Olympic games [X]
Be Old NATO member and won the cold War [X]
Be EU and EZ Member [X]
Have the original feta, Greek Salad and all the food you stolen from us [X]
You are trully pathetic. Some Greek should open a new /gr/ thread because I can't stand the way /balk/ smells
>>60332376
Greece is amazing. Greece's history, culture, and people are the finest on Earth. Yes, they are currently facing economic problems, but the Greek people have been rising above their challenges for thousands of years. They will endure, and they will rise again.
>>60332333
but I am a Greek
>>60332495
Stfu provinciali
>>60332333
>Be Old NATO member and won the cold War,2nd world war.1st world war [X]
ftfy
>>60332467
honorary greek
>>60332918
>>60332918
>>60332918
Νέο νημα για Έλληνες
>>60332333
>hottest men on Earth
Yet pic related looks like he is 170cm tall.
>Be Old NATO member
>Be EU member
These are both bad.
>Actually white people
Yes, but I don't know who on this thread is not white.
>>60333333
>>60332694
malakas?
>>60333643
Thieving tigan?
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_p?sl=el&tl=en&u=http://newpost.gr/oikonomia/537929/parti-me-kondylia-ths-ee-se-roymania-boylgaria-kai-oyggaria&depth=1&rurl=translate.google.gr&nv=1&usg=ALkJrhgAAAAAV1KeTdVgVQ5FX9soJtJ2g8c70u5J69Gf
>>60319389
someone should stab čanak.
also, good morning incels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgx02E8ICHo
>>60333707
Hello affordable Austria
When will these Reeks remove ourselves from our presence? It drives the quality of /balk/ down immensely.
Can some mod do his damn job? Nobody wants them here and yet they continue to spam our thread.
>>60333939
that one was rich coming from you.))
>>60334335
y?
we love them, they are essential addition to /balk/.
