It would solve our immigration problem; we'd have more resources; and we would actually be able to get rid of the cartels. Most Mexicans want to become Americans, so we would just be doing them a favor. We could be able to really crack down on the cartels that essentially control Mexico's government. As far as the concern of them resisting us, Mexico's army is pretty much non-existent, so we would win easily.
Also, it would prove our aggression to China. China's eventually going to try to collect what it's owed sooner or later, which would most likely be land as collateral. China has a much stronger economy than us, a larger population, and a soon to be larger military. There's absolutely no way we could win if we continue to let them carry on. China's an economic and militaristic threat to us. Especially economically. They could also just decide to collect on our debt to them any time and god knows we can't pay it back. Then they'll just take land as collateral.
China is content having wealthy customers.
>Most Mexicans want to become Americans
No
>We could be able to really crack down on the cartels
No, listen Bob, the only way to end cartels it to put them out of bussines, legalize the fucking weed, your DEA its involved and they just make the situation worst, military doesnt not work against a group that does not value human life, they only care about money
>Mexico's army is pretty much non-existent
No army in this planet compares to the US military the fucking world knows this, that doesn´t mean we can´t at least kill a few americans, the fact that only infantry is involved in the drug war its because they are not like a regular military, they dont carry labels and muh human rights itrs preventing the army to go full on airstrikes on their ranches.
>>60034039
doesn't the cartel control a lot more than just weed?
I agree this guy is retarded but I don't think legal weed is gonna stop shit
>>60034039
>>Most Mexicans want to become Americans
>No
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/08/26/pew-survey-1-3-of-mexicans-want-to-move-to-america-60-disapprove-of-pe-a-nieto-s-economy/
Bullshit
>>60033777
>Mexico's army is pretty much non-existent
They probably helped out more than your own army during the whole Hurricane Katrina incident.
Our army isn't just used for carpet bombing weak countries with freedom.
>>60033777
If it became so, Trump does not have to build the Great Wall.
>>60034167
Yes but weed it´s they major source of us cash.
Is easier to deal with a poor criminal, of course they will move on to another crimes, like kidnaping or something, but cut hard on their savings will destroy their power to bribe entire police departments on isolated towns, of course it takes time but they will eventually fade out, as I said they don´t want mexican land, they don´t want to govern the country they just want money.
>>60034275
^This. There's billions of beaners living here
>>60033777
No lei un carajo ;D
>>60034281
>Our army isn't just used for carpet bombing weak countries with freedom.
Pretty shitty army then
>>60034602
ENGLISH ONLY
>>60034602
Jaja. Siempre me pasa :D
>>60034646
Yo no hablar english
>>60034635
If that makes my amazon packages to get on time, i am all for it
>>60033777
CHICANO
>>60034688
Then learn it, Fidel
>>60033777
Just kill all the cartels and place drug laws that have the death penalty. That would solve most of mexico's problems
We don't need to annex Mexico but I think if our military is going to be butting into other countries we should be helping them instead of some camel jockeys on the other side of the planet.
>>60034730
Nope. No beaner blood in me.
>>60034722
>soldiers helping the disadvantaged
delet this
>>60034729
1st world Mexico when
>>60034818
Already in some parts of Mexico City, some parts of Montegay.
The problem is that the rest is the same old shithole
>>60033777
If you haven't been living under a rock the last 20 years you'll find out that Mexico is annexing USA so the result will be the same. You don't even have to do anything (perfect deal for an American) and your wet dream will come true.
Cheers.
>>60033777
no it wouldn't chicano, then it would be legal to immigrate and people from mexican cities would just go to american cities legally
>>60034818
pls annex Canada
Why not Canada? They also beg for it since they have no pride for their country.
>>60034972
Just let Alberta secede, we don't want the rest
>>60034994
We'll just build a northern wall. Lord knows those SJWs will would fucking destroy this country.
>>60034275
>breitbart
>>60035199
true famalam
>>60035266
And? They cited a study that was done by pew
>>60035517
>by a Jew*
fixed
>>60034275
Not anymore
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/20/us/more-mexican-immigrants-leaving-us-than-entering-report-finds.html?_r=0
>>60034780
Or just legalize drugs and allow them to go to usa, that way we can show it's always been usa's drug problem
>>60035918
>we can show it's always been usa's drug problem
Yeah, no
>>60033777
Alright enjoy being 30% white
>>60036601
Better than being a commie
>>60036362
Having the biggest drug demand in the world is not a problem?
it should be named amexica
>>60034323
There would still be a wall at the southern end of the country, but it wouldn't be as long.
>>60039439
Making it a hell of a lot easier to guard.
>>60039066
annexedico
>>60033777
This is idiotic. Last thing we need is to magically add 130 million people from a developing nation into our populace. If anything, we should annex Canada. Much easier.
Also, Mexico may not be able to match us militarily, but they have some seriously badass motherfuckers. Their elite marines have become Judge Dredd summary executioners, widely considered to be the only force left uncorrupted by Cartel influence.
>>60033777
Mexico would just become the shitty states no one wants to go to
>>60036601
We would Make America White Again (tm) and revitalize their economy.
>>60036903
It's not a problem that can be fixed. America has the worlds largest economy/market. Besides if we legalize weed the cartel just switch to a new income source. Whatever that might be. Honestly the problem has always been that Mexico is full of criminals.
>>60040432
^^^^^This
>>60033777
4 things we need to do to make this work:
1. Make them remain in territory status
2. Mismanage it so much, that all the mexicans die off.
3. Let americans move in.
4. rename the gulf to the Gulf of Texas.
>>60039439
We could dig a canal instead and kill two birds with one stone.
>>60034275
ok you "amerifat", mostly of the people in mexico hate Peña Nieto and his shiti economy. but that doesn´t mean we want to move to america. besides, california, texas, and other states were mexico.
>>60033777
sure you also belive that america won de ww2, and america gave "freedom" to the countries in middle east.
>>60040645
>idon'tunderstandhowafederationworkslol
mismanage kek
>>60041293
>mexican intellectuals
>>60033777
I would rather join China.
post yfw you realized that a fully united and federated north america is not only inevitable but desirable
>Merging with America would help the poor
>Would also get rid of violence, corruption, and cartels
>Mexican nationalists don't want to merge with America because 'muh heritage'
Trust me, none of us want anything to do you with guys. We didn't put a gun to your head and make you cross our border with pockets filled with drugs. We didn't force you to come here on a plane with heroin pellets shoved up your ass. And when we granted your kind citizenship, you decided to bring drugs into our country. And then you have the nerve to call the republicans selfish racists that want nothing more than to sodomize the American flag. This is why everybody here fucking hates your guts. Don't cry when uncle Hose gets lynched by an American, because you selfish bastards brought it upon yourselves.
>>60033777
trips for truth count me in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyeYCgDvW9I
mejico belongs to the STATES
>>60041747
The United States of America. There's always more room for more stars on the flag.
>>60041659
We aren't perfect but at least we're not a borderline slave state with a totalitarian government and unstable economy.
But hey, you enjoy your """"people's"""" republic until you can get run over by a tank
>>60041134
How do most people other there feel about Vincent Fox?
The US does not have to take over Mexico, the two countries could join to become one country. The US needs the oil resources, it would improve the US agriculture so as not to be dependent on foriegn sources. The US population is 350 million, the Mexican population is only 100 million so it would not be a burden to take on Mexicans as citizens. Mexico should switch to using US laws since the US has a superior legal system (guilty till proven innocent lol). Mexican university graduates could get jobs in the US tech, pharmaceutical industries. Huge increase and improvement in tourism. Increase in living standards as more and cheaper homes are available.
Doesn't sound like a half bad idea
>>60033777
Parts of Mexico are affectively huwhyte, so those parts and Canada
>>60034972
>>60034994
>>60033777
>>60033777
Not long ago there's this testing thing that's been brought in to Australian schools called NAPLAN. The Year 5s doing the test have to create an exposition/argument. What you've just posted OP seems a lot like something a 11 year old would set out for said test
>>60033777
What we should do instead is make a deal with Mexico whereby we take care of their cartel problem if we get to keep territory where we were involved. Then we just "involve" ourselves everywhere in Mexico.
>>60033777
nice trips
shit thread
>>60042781
It is not feasible because of the huge asymmetry between Mexico and its potential partners, USA and Canada. Nor is it because of how greatly incompatible the laws and visions of the three countries are. Even the differences between Canada and the US are abysmal. A union between unequals will always be unequal. I do not see how it would suit the US to carry an antidemocratic, backward, and corrupt Mexico dominated by crime, for example.
And I dont know if it is desirable because it is so possible that Mexico also has to assume the worst aspects of the US political organization (like the attack on unions and collective bargaining, not universal health care, etc.) as the United States end up absorbed by Mexican trickery and corruption, and Chapo Guzman ends up dispatching at the White House thanks to a colossal fraud orchestrated by the PRI/PAN/PRD using Trump or any other muppet.
Bad idea, isn't it?
>>60044031
>I do not see how it would suit the US to carry an antidemocratic, backward, and corrupt Mexico dominated by crime, for example.
colonization, paco. we colonize you and treat you like shit until you all die off.
>>60041134
>amerifat
>his country is the only nation on the planet that's fatter than the United States
>>60044082
Are you by any chance from other country than the U.S? Just curious.
And nice meme reply senpai.
>>60044108
Actually, Mexico is slightly less fat than America(7% less). The only reason why they're skinnier is because it's hot as fucking hell and Mexicans are poor as fuck.
James Polk didn't want the entire country in 1848 when it only had 7 million people. Why would we want it now that it has 122 million?
>>60044504
>poverty isn't directly correlated with being fat
Does it really benefit us to absorb almost 130 million Third Worlders who live in mud huts and have never managed a functioning, non-corrupt form of government?
>>60044031
>it is so possible that Mexico also has to assume the worst aspects of the US political organization (like the attack on unions and collective bargaining, not universal health care, etc.)
You were doing ok until you lost it here and started reusing Huffington Post copypaste.
>>60044692
Yes. es it does.
>>60044714
The only meme part of that reply is what came after that.
Or are you saying that
>no universal health care
>good
>>60041747
>>60041134
>besides, california, texas, and other states were mexico
Err, no they weren't. In 1846, almost 90% of Mexico's population lived in the central area around MC. Literally nobody lived north of the Rio Grande but Indian tribes and a few Spanish-descended settlers.
>>60044744
We do have UHC. It's called Medicare and Medicaid.
>>60044031
>Even the differences between Canada and the US are abysmal
Well, we'd have to genocide all the snow French...
>>60044764
>most of Australia isn't Australian
Besides, what does that have to do with anything? There weren't Americans living there either. The Texan constitution was signed by people who had only arrived the year later. Several years before the Mexican government banned immigration from the US.
>>60044834
>the year later
the year after*
wew
>>60044677
>Implying there isn't a correlation between poverty and weight
>>60044852
Holy shit, I need to sleep. Before*
>>60044863
It is. They get fat.
>>60044635
There were hotheads back then who wanted to take the entirety of Mexico but Polk completely rejected that. He said "It has never been our intention to absorb any significant non-Anglo population."
>>60044774
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_healthcare#United_States_of_America
>A number of proposals have been made for a universal single-payer healthcare system in the United States, most recently the United States National Health Care Act, (popularly known as H.R. 676 or "Medicare for All") but none have achieved more than 20% congressional co-sponsorship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_coverage_by_country#United_States
>The United States does not have a universal health care system.
>>60044927
"We have never dreamt of incorporating into our Union any but the Caucasian race—the free white race. To incorporate Mexico, would be the very first instance of the kind, of incorporating an Indian race; for more than half of the Mexicans are Indians, and the other is composed chiefly of mixed tribes. I protest against such a union as that! Ours, sir, is the Government of a white race. We are anxious to force free government on all; and I see that it has been urged ... that it is the mission of this country to spread civil and religious liberty over all the world, and especially over this continent. It is a great mistake."
>>60044962
>A number of proposals have been made for a universal single-payer healthcare system in the United States
I can bet without looking that all of those proposals came from far-left Democrats and their opinion doesn't count for much.
During the invasion of Mexico, there was a fair amount of maltreatment of the civilian population by the enlisted men as well as vandalism of churches since most of them were Protestants who believed the Catholic Church were degenerated idol worshipers. Although the officer corps did not condone these actions and in fact tried to prevent it, the illiterate good ol' boy rednecks with muskets weren't going to...
War isn't nice. Whaddya want?
>>60045138
No wonder this happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick%27s_Battalion
>>60033777
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Stop with this shit already, your country is way too big already. Russia, USA, Canada, Brazil, China, etc, way too big countries. It looks bad on the map, which should be more interesting to the eye with smaller nations.
>>60045138
Nonetheless, this comically-exaggerated butthurt which almost reads like Southern "accounts" of Sherman's March to the Sea.
>>60040432
>if we legalize weed the cartel just switch to a new income source.
Exactly and-
>Mexico is full of criminals
HOME OF THE FREE GREATEST COUNTRY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH NO CRIMINAL ELEMENT HERE
>>60045287
If anything, the invasion of the Mexican heartland and the occupation of their capital by a foreign army was probably more humiliating than the loss of territory they never really controlled in the first place.
>>60045300
>we shouldn't cause trouble to cartels because they might get way less money from something much more difficult to do
>might
>way less money
>much more difficult
We should never ever legalize drugs unless you have it that it's only legal to obtain pharmacy-grade stuff with a license.
>>60033777
>>60040432
Not quite rightly so. The Cartels main source of power is in MJ at a little over 60% then cocaine coming in at near 15%. If legalize MJ, the cartels essentially become super weak. Even with coke, the Columbian cartels would gain more power while the mexicans lose more power there. The rest is through drug crime sude effects such as kidnapping and blackmail but if they have almost no drugs base those crimes on the lose no powers. Its the same as the Prohibition all over again, you may outlaw it but that just will make the problem worse and you're better off legalizing it.
>>60033777
america is a fairy tale
>>60045371
Might we then also legalize CP since there's no way to stop its production?
>>60045412
The act of producing marijuana doesn't hurt people. Neither does consuming it, actually.
Are you implying that's the case for CP?
>>60045041
Most of the people who wanted to take the entire Mexico were Southerners hoping to extend slavery down there...but good luck with that when slavery had been b& in Mexico for 30 years at that point. Useless anyway since the only part of Mexico suitable for growing cotton is in the Veracruz area which was already heavily populated. Just the expense of trying to occupy and pacify the entire country would have stretched US financial resources to the breaking point.
>>60045454
>The act of producing marijuana doesn't hurt people. Neither does consuming it, actually.
I'd like you to get behind the wheel of a car after a few joints and see what happens.
>>60045412
Are you retarded? Like alcohol, mj only affects the individual who consumes it. There are both positive and negative side effects but in the end it doesn't severely affect the person so as long as they take it witb moderation and responsibility. I am not even a stoner but seriously man, mj isn't a even a hard drug and pretty much similar to alcohol or tavacco in terms of eeffects.
>>60045454
>Are you implying that's the case for CP?
Depends on what kind of CP. Not all of it involves children being violently raped, yet that doesn't mean we ought to legalize it.
>>60045516
>the act of producing alcahol doesn't hurt people. Neither does consuming it, actually.
I'd like you to get behind the wheel of a car after a few drinks and see what happens.
>>60045516
What?
Alcohol is much worse in those regards (and a lot of others) if you actually knew what you are talking about. And it's legal.
>>60045590
The thing is, I've never condoned drunk driving however you just condoned driving while stoned a few posts above.
>>60045584
>producing CP doesn't hurt people
>EVER
>non-consenting childs are the same as fully developed adults
>>60045637
When? Did you read my post?
>but in the end it doesn't severely affect the person so as long they take it witb moderation and responsibility.
Do you really think driving while stoned is using moderatly and responsibly?
>>60045592
>>60045551
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/how-does-marijuana-use-affect-your-brain-body
https://student.societyforscience.org/article/brain-damage-seen-potent-marijuana-smokers
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/high-potency-pot-smokers-show-brain-fiber-damage
>>60045705
Thanks for proving my point? If you want I can also point you to research on what alcahol can do to your brain.
>>60045688
You said in >>60045454 (since the Mexican guy is you with a proxy) that smoking weed is harmless. So I said Ok let's see you drive while stoned if it's so harmless.
Now that I caught you in a trap, you admitted that's not really the case.
>>60045748
In what post did I condone drinking or say it was good for you? Please show me where I said that.
>>60045751
>proxy
I'll just stop right there. No need to feed bait anymore.
>>60045412
Nice slippery slope
>>60045551
>man, mj isn't a even a hard drug and pretty much similar to alcohol or tavacco in terms of eeffects.
If this were the 1960s-70s, that might be true. Alas, the pot grown today is a _lot_ more powerful than it was in those days, closer to LSD levels of potency.
>>60045637
Which is why drunk driving is illegal.
What makes you think that legalizing drugs means legalizing driving while stoned? Or performing surgeries while stoned? Or doing any sort of dangerous thing. The same as being drunk.
>>60045705
>and cigars cause lung cancer
>and alcohol causes hepatitis
And we could be arguing all day about pointless things, but at the end of the day, nobody is forcing people to do drugs. They are willingly chooshing to do it by themselves. As they should be able to, since they are fucking adults.
>>60045751
I'm not a proxy, you paranoid cunt.
>>60045781
Nice, I can also edit screencaps in MS Paint.
>>60045823
>hepatitis
wew
Cirrhosis*.
>>60045823
>What makes you think that legalizing drugs means legalizing driving while stoned? Or performing surgeries while stoned? Or doing any sort of dangerous thing. The same as being drunk.
Lemme show you again, you stupid stoner.
>>60045454
>The act of producing marijuana doesn't hurt people. Neither does consuming it, actually.
If consuming pot was harmless, then you should be able to drive or perform surgery safely after using it. Now you admit in fact this isn't true at all.
>>60045823
>I'm not a proxy, you paranoid cunt.
If you weren't a proxy, you wouldn't be posting the exact same arguments and logical fallacies as >>60045688
>>60045888
>>60045888
Nice trips. Unfortunately cant say the same about your education.
You'd think they could just get THC in a pill instead of inhaling all that hot carcinogenic smoke.
>yfw when this thread got derailed by DUDE WEED
>>60045919
Nigger, you can't get an argument because they are two different views of the same arguement. I am ashamed, thanks for proving the American meme.
>>60045985
Kind of makes you realize what disgusting wastes of life that stoners are.
>>60045888
Look, I'm not going to argue weather or not marijuana causes damage to the one who is choosing to use it. Because that's beyond the point.
I'm not even a fucking stoner. Like I would ever support the fucking cartels by doing it.
>If consuming pot was harmless, then you should be able to drive or perform surgery safely after using it
We should ban alcohol too, then. It did wonders before.
>If you weren't a proxy, you wouldn't be posting the exact same arguments and logical fallacies as
No, you just are fucking retarded. Or bait. Either way, this you last (You) from me.
Mexico pls post a timestamp or something. Can't argue with this retard but oh well cant get upset about losing a argument with a Neckbeard.
>>60046012
It makes me realize I'm sick of people repeating the same fucking argument on both sides.
>>60045412
>This fucking guy
I support this.
Follow your dreams, America-kun.
>>60049455
That'll never fucking happen. You would have your ass shot as soon as you stepped foot on our border. I fucking dare you try to take our land, because that would give us an reason to annex your country.
>>60033777
>America should annex Mexico
mexico should annex Spain , i think so
>>60050112
>Wanting to be ruled by drug lords
>>60050094
:^)
>>60049455
I guess on the way to the Philippines you restored the Hawaiian monarchy?
>>60040432
Hahaha what a joke, their trade would collapse sure they'd find new work and there might be chaos for a while but there is only so many criminals which are "viable" in a society without drugs.
>>60050698
>drugs
illegal drug trade.
>>60050247
This is why you're paying for a wall.
>>60050942
send help
>>60041368
there are lots of universities in mexico
>>60042166
>not knowing mexico after the revolution was basically communist
>>60049455
esto es mejor
>>60033777
Its not like you can US-kun.
Yo cant even beat some sand niggers. What makes you think that you will win in Mexico?
>>60056416
>What makes you think that you will win in Mexico?
this. if the gringos think iraq and Afghanistan were bad, a war with Mexico will be 10x as bad.
>>60050942
>He really thinks we are going to pay
why would you want that piece of shit
>>60056562
The Mexicans in CA/AZ/NM/TX will fight with the Mexicans, as they view themselves as Mexicans before Americans and that whole border area has always been Mexican..
it's more likely that US will join Mexico in the future
>>60057526
Tbh. Most Mexicans in the US dont have any military training and would not able occupy American cities. At best they'd serve as mercenaries which only serve as a way to loot and destroy the cities from the inside.
