qt edition
Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make your mom proud.
AVOID asking unrelated questions, there is a question thread for that.
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead (also images shouldn't come out accidentally sideways with this method)
#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint
→ →
There's a new sticky in town! You can see it at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VfDTpLLVl5bWUGWguswKpPFml533luI8-NBd1EGYHnA/edit
>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.
TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.
Old thread: >>2593915
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eyebleach for the above image
>>2597482
Why is this one of the images
Its so fuckin dark
>>2597501
challenge yourself
>>2596196
Hey this is another face i tried, i think im improving slightly? Tell me how i can improve
>>2597482
I really cant see most of this
>>2597483
She looks too perfect. Like she was made with 3d modelling software.
>>2597574
Its called photoshop dude
>>2597574
yeah, I wonder if any photoshop was involved.
Started reading Keys to Drawing a few days ago so I tried to draw my headphones by following the book's advice about shapes.
I drew it on a whim before going to bed but it turned out better than I expected. As far as I can tell the lines are quite hesitant leading to chicken scratch although the author says "restating" is okay. I don't know shit about textures or shading so I just scribbled over the band but compared to the real thing I think I did a decent job in regard to the proportions.
What do you think?
>>2597616
Like yeah of course your lines and stuff aren't too appealing to look at. But if you just drew that from looking at an object irl then you've got a pretty good eye for shapes.
>>2597563
I think i need to just make sure i get the contour of the head right before i start on the features??
>>2597688
What program are you using for the ref?
>>2597690
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/face-expression-practice//
Pretty decent
>>2597688
Try drawing this and focus on blocking out the shapes and getting the values right. You might wanna try a darker pencil if possible.
>>2597487
Finishing Drawing on the right side of the brain, am i gonna make it? And yeah, i ran out of paper, i drew on a back side of printer/scanner manual.
>>2597703
Overlay your drawing on the picture and notice where you have gone astray, The arms in particular and some of the angles are off. Try and lay in the angles and relative positions of the body parts before drawing and see if it looks less broken.
Should the top of the boots curve up or down to make most sense?
Also general feedback is very welcome!
>>2597705
Thanks, will do. What to do with the overlays tho? Just note the mistakes? Try to redraw?
>>2597701
Goddamnit I just tried to draw this and im still fucking symbol drawing. I look at it and think okay im drawing x shape and then when the drawing is done ive done a symbol again this is HORRIBLE.
>>2597715
Know where you went wrong and then repeat the exercise would be what I would do, but im bad so what do I know.
>>2597720
I am worse, thanks
>>2597703
reminds me of the charger from l4d
>>2597490
i kek'd hard on that comment doe.
anyways,
this is my 2nd time trying to draw realism they still look grannies helpme.
>>2597710
i think the top of the hair is a bit bulky maybe shorten it?
>>2597798
i would start at keys to drawing desu
your animu style is leaking
>>2597807
was it that obvious my animu style is appearing in realism!!
and what keys to drawings?
>>2597810
a book
>>2597810
did you even read the sticky
>>2597801
I'll do that, thanks!
>>2597801
Better?
Never thought to study drawing etc. was always just something to do. Reading up on these practices has inspired me to learn the science and it ended up shit.
God knows what I was doing with shading. Copying a reference was easier when I broke the image down into grids but I want to get efficient enough to animate. Journey starts here
Stupid question, how do i translate the stuff ive learned into a more simplified version? how do i break down realism into cartoonish
Haha shieeet . i cant do realism
>>2597828
yep! love the the pose.
>>2597616
lovely headphones doe.
and sorry im kinda new in this thread were can i get keys to drawing?
>>2597898
check the book thread, look in the catalog
I'd directly link you but
>give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime
so get used to browsing /ic/
>>2597485
Besides the hair I think it turned out alright
>>2597915
why did u shrink him along x axis?
>>2597915
Shit, forgot to resize
>>2597916
I only noticed that now, it wasn't intentional
these references are really boring
>>2597919
ear is off face is off etc
next time look at your reference like this
>>2597927
Thanks, man
>>2597828
excuse me but could you share your brush setting?
I have trouble drawing gestures on my own
I'll try copying gesture sketches more, I just hope I can someday be able to draw one without too much handholding.
>>2597895
Thank you!
>>2597948
It's the default fading PS brush with shape dynamics added.
In sai I would use the semi-soft pencil with min size set to ~20, and opacity set to ~70.
I seldom use pure black when I draw, if needed you can darken later by playing with contrast.
>>2597998
Looks good but what is she actually doing?
>>2598001
i think its probably holding something gun-like related to kancolle?
>>2598001
looks like she's holding something with a jaw, kantai shit man
>>2597798
ok i tried to redraw it after reading keys to drawing i think i did a better attempt then this one.
At least he's not granny i think?
he still looks older then he's suppose to be.
>>2598001
She is petting her monster. Her design has big armored hands and her monster looks a bit like a snake with a sharks face with a runway on top of its head, partly.. she's from the Kantai collection, and she is supposed to be a harbor demon.
>>2597484
fun
Literally my first digital painting ever. Any tips?
I realized I have no focus and my art profiles on the web are a fucking mess, so I wanna start building a portfolio I can show to people without going "yeah uh that was just a sketch end this one I was doing a thing but then it turnet into another and uh this is when my tablet broke". It's time to have something solid, something I can look and say to myself "that's cool, that's my best right now". How do I realize WHAT things to start painting and posting on the internet? keeping in mind I should be able to present it to companies and shit for freelancing.
This post is kind of a nonsensical and vague question, but so are my thoughts right now. I just want a direction /ic/, the worst thing for an artist is not knowing what to do and where to go.
>>2597484
i tried to crosshatch it
>>2598082
2 tips
1: Learn to paint in greyscale before worrying about colors. Colors are complicated and not as important as values.
2: http://www.ctrlpaint.com/
>>2598086
What KIND of freelancing?
Think about what kind of jobs you want to catch with your portfolio.
Nobody looking for a character designer is going to care about your perspective drawings or your comic pages or your landscapes. Nobody looking for a cartoon storybook illustrator is going to care about how good you are at drawing saggy old lady tits at your life drawing sessions.
If you don't know exactly what kind of jobs you want, figure it out. Nobody's impressed by a generalist.
>>2597924
Recently got my degree in engineering so i decided to start practicing drawing (tablet i got from work)
>>2598107
some ideas on why you didn't quite get the likeness
>>2598138
read sticky and use paper and pencil for a while
>>2598144
*his cheeks are more rough cut
sorry I left out part of the red text
also in general you should've used a wider range of values
>>2598135
>What KIND of freelancing?
>If you don't know exactly what kind of jobs you want, figure it out.
Thank you anon, I guess I knokw what I'll be doing now: figure out what I want.
>>2598146
Ok anon i will use pen and paper.
>>2598156
One thing I should probably say is, you don't have to be a one-trick pony. You CAN do several things at once, like designing characters AND illustrating children's books AND drawing sci-fi book covers. But you need to have them in separate sections of your online portfolio so clients looking at your stuff can focus on the stuff they care about, and you need to not send clients things they don't care about when contacting them.
>>2597716
Practice makes perfect anon
How do you guys deal when you are interested in learning to draw a kind of body?
I love Oda Non, Homare and Misaki Yukihiro women body types, and I am trying to learn from some of their works.
What do you recommend to learn to draw this kind of body?
Pic is from Oda Non,
>>2598180
I actually did some experiments with tablet before but it comes out cartoony and shity like this.
So i came here seeking to git gud.
>>2598183
How many pieces are good for a portfolio? should I look for other artist's portfolios for "topic reference"?
>>2597716
this helped me when I was younger: use the side of your pencil and fill in colors of grey rather than using the tip to define edges. Even if the measurements are off it won't be a symbol drawing.
>>2598196
I'm no expert, but no more than 50 per category before people will get bored, I think*. But the important thing is to have it all be your best. If you've only got 20 good pieces, don't put in mediocre ones just because you want to fill space.
>should I look for other artist's portfolios for "topic reference"?
Both for ideas of how to structure your portfolio and for what kind of drawings you should put there, definitely. Hell, ask them if they can give you a few tips, worst they can do is say no.
*I really am not an expert. Craig Mullins, for instance, has over a hundred and fifty pieces in the "concept" part of his portfolio. But then, what works for a world-reknowned artist with decades of experience and connections at the top of the field might not work for you.
>>2598107
worked some more and tried to fix anon's suggestions. I feel like I'm overworking it now, his face is grossing me out
>>2598221
>WE WAZ KANGZ.
Looks fantastic dude gonna shit post it on /pol/.
>>2598220
That sounds like a lot of works. I better start now since I must have like 5 barely showable digital artworks at the moment. I have no idea what I might want since I would gladly work on a shitty mobile game or Tshirts as much as I would on character design for a line of expensive statues.
The right arm is semi-referenced, while the one on the left is completely from imagination.
Why do arms look so weird when flexed? Perhaps I should not be looking at people who work out
>>2598237
I think you should look at bones.
But... going on /fit/ and drawing buff men is a good idea for practicing.
is this good? can I move on to more complex shapes?
>>2598295
Looks great but the ball seems to be a bit....you know uneven its not roundish
>>2598234
Good luck, anon.
If in doubt, just pick one thing you know you'd like to work with and start with that.
All of those three things involve designing characters and clothes. Maybe that's where you should start.
Sketched it first, then inked it over with a Fountain Pen.
What do you think?
>>2598327
>What do you think?
Your handwriting is nice.
>>2598346
Thanks.
Should I get something like this?
I feel like drawing on an angle would be easier instead of drawing on a flat table.
Pls resbond
>>2598221
Much better
>>2598295
Nope. Think instead of copying. The core shadow needs to align with the cast shadow and the highlight is basically reflection, which means it's created by light coming from the light source, bouncing off the ball surface and going to your eyes. (pic related)
Think, don't copy.
>>2598359
Yes, drawing on a tilted surface to see your picture straight up is very important. Though you don't have to buy this thing, a simple wooden board in your lap resting against your table could do.
>>2598327
What is there to seriously critique about this? It's homework art, the kind you draw in the corner of your assignment when you're bored.
>>2598327
You posted this to get some praise, not critique, didn't ya?
Anyways, I like it. Post some more demanding drawing that's not hiding behind design if you want some advice/critique.
r8 m8s
pd NSFW
pd:2 why no spoiler option on this board?
Any tutorials showing in detail how to draw legs/leg muscles?
I've spent some time practicing on paper and have made some noticeable improvement and just bought a drawing tablet(wacom bamboo). After spending some time trying it out everything I draw seems to turn out far worse than it would if I'd just used pencil and paper. It feels like I'm back to almost square one, all my lines are extremely messy and imprecise and drawing anything with any amount of detail is impossible.
Is this natural and just something I'll have to work through? I don't particularly want to have to learn everything once for on paper and then again with a tablet.
>>2598461
You just need to get used to the tablet. Once you get coordinated, everything you learned with the pencil will carry over.
>>2598464
Good to know, thanks. I'll keep practicing with it then.
>>2598221
Looks great imo. The slight imperfections make him look a bit more human. Also, this guy aint supposed to look pretty. I liked your last one quite a bit. This one seems a bit more stylish.
>>2598457
Anatomy books, figure drawing books, nma videos
Do these forms look 3D to you guys?
>>2598503
is this a fucking meme now?
>>2598504
I've never received a response that is serious.
>>2598503
Also here's another one.
>>2598504
it is now
save the image and begin the regime of 3d
>>2598519
Come on dude don't do it.
Alright, so i bought a sketch book and brought it home. Immediately realized it was trash (the spine fell apart instantly). I realize that you all will have some cool insight into how you can draw on anything and the surface doesnt matter if the skill of the artist is- blah blah. I just want some help with getting a quality sketchbook that i can use on a regular basis without having it fall apart. Any help?
Been doing some timed figure drawing. This is the least-shittiest out of what I've done today. What am I doing wrong? I've tried line of action, simple forms and all that but it's still no good.
>>2598518
Dawg, your line work is trash
>>2598534
How much time did you have for each of these?
>>2598535
Why is it trash though?
Is it the general shakiness?
or is it the lack of variance in the thickness?
Is it both?
I didn't think it was that important.
>>2598534
Which book are you studying your anatomy from?
>>2598549
Theyre shaky as all hell and the thickness of the lines make no sense at all. Have you worked on your lines at all?
I'm aware my lines are trash, thnx.
>>2598544
The times are next to the poses. 1, 2, and 5 min.
>>2598556
Well, you really should work on your lines, it will help massively with capturing the shapes better. Also, you are not showing any knowledge of any anatomy and really you should work on that too. Have you been practicing figure drawing long?
>>2598503
>>2598518
A few things anon
1) Resize your damn pics, seriously, if you want a reasonable response at least make the tiniest amount of effort to make our lives easier, or to actually be taken seriously.
2) No, they don't look 3d.
3) Are you doing this based on Han's Dynamic Sketching? If you are go and watch the lesson again. You don't understand the instructions. If you are doing this based off of some other instruction or reasoning state it so we understand what it is you are attempting to accomplish.
4) As the other anon said, your line work is pretty bad. Your lines need to be smoother and more sure. Right now they are wobbly and uncertain. They thicken and thin at seemingly random points which does no good for the drawing.
5) You've posted these several times, surely you've done many more since then. Where are those?
>>2598559
Well, are you sure you arent taking them too slow? Possibly try speeding up
>>2598570
Big mistake. Slow doesnt always equal smooth sadly. Faster strokes from the shoulder or even elbow are likely going to be much smoother than lines slowly from the wrist. Also, considering you seem to have been doing it for a relatively long time, possibly change it up. Instead of cutting down on time, take as much time as needed, then post them up for critique, it might highlight things you need work on, right now they look sort of just like scribbles. Finally, try studying anatomy, sounds boring, i know.
>>2598518
Its not 3d, try to draw through your drawing too. What I mean I that you have to know perfeclty what your figure is like. Which means you need to know how it looks like behind the facade. For example of you draw a cube, you should be able to draw all its sides by assuming the cube is transparent
Here, I worked constuctive drawing for 2,5 years and I feel super confortable when drawing 3d stuff. And yeah, work over your lines
>>2598584
mmm das nice
>>2598562
I've been doing life drawing and trying to see through forms, so I don't have any more of those exercises for now.
Also I'm not doing Han's Dynamic Sketching, I'm doing draw-a-box
http://drawabox.com/lesson/2
I'm not sure if I should be drawing from life or if I should be doing exercises like the one I've shown to learn more about 3D.
>>2598592
>http://drawabox.com/lesson/2
Ok, drawabox is a guy who took Han's course and thinks he can teach it.
I'd recommend getting peter han's dynamic sketching course and doing that instead. Similar stuff, much better teacher.
You should be doing both drawing from life and form exercises.
>>2598597
Thanks for the heads up.
At least that site was a step in the right direction.
Does anybody know why tablets are inferior to pencil and paper when it comes to learning?
Is the only real issue lines, or is it more than that?
>>2598597
Hey, does Han's course demand you pay $700?
Where can I get it for free?
I'm a 3rd worlder so $700 isn't exactly chump change.
>>2598623
You can find the first week's video online.
https://mega.nz/#F!bp0SlDZb!jM3TvWXeBZvlZ0hhXF-1bQ
>>2598408
I'll try. My artwork can go all over the place.
>>2597484
fucked up the mouth
>>2598631
I think you did a pretty good job! The mouth can be fixed, but I really like it. The shading though, could be smoother.
>>2598625
Thanks man
Is drawabox a meme site? Should I disregard it and learn from something else?
>>2598619
it's because you're drawing on a different plane than where you are looking, so it feels really weird.
>>2598660
but I own a surface book, it's a touch screen tablet.
>>2598660
For me it doesn't feel weird.
I've gotten so used to it.
>>2598665
If it works for you it works. Personally I feel that starting off with traditional stuff taught me a lot more about confidence and also how to work with mistakes, because I can't just ctrl z until I get everything perfect. Also doesn't give me the luxury of layers or lasso tool or easily manipulating something that was close but not quite right. If you fuck it up in traditional your only option is to fix it, you can't just lasso it and resize/skew it until it looks better.
Also I can bring a sketchbook and a pencil/pens everywhere. My tablet needs power, or will eventually run out of battery.
But that's just my own experiences, maybe someone who's actually good can chime in.
>>2598532
honestly dude? most anything at an art supply store will be fine, im not sure where you live/what store you went to but most anything strathmore/seth cole/blick is decent.
if youre looking for something higher quality get a moleskine.
>>2598450
Thnx for help faggots
>>2598675
I appreciate the reply. I bought the book from books-a-million (come to think of it probably not the best place) and it seemed alright, and the cashier lady even commented on how it seemed nice.
>>2598675
I know it seems fucking stupid to ask this question but i was excited to finally get drawing on paper and this shit happens and i want to cry into my pile of shit drawings.
>>2598690
get something with a coil binding or get a drawing board with clips and then you don't have to worry about it falling apart
Excuse the messy lines. I just wanted to know if I'm placing my body parts in the right place.
didnt want to use any of the references so used my own...i gestured the pose with pencil than sort made things up with a pen
used this as reference btw
>>2598534
You look like you're thinking in outlines, not forms. Try drawing and shading some simple shapes like fruit from life.
>>2598146
>>2598163
Am I getting closer?
>>2597480
Tried some loomis, I understand form much better and now have to actually learn the correct planes and proportions....
>>2598798
Significantly
>>2598838
How long have you been doing these?
>>2598848
these in ms paint, i think abaout 2 years, this specificaly, i think 2 hours
>>2597701
Not the anon you tasked this to but how did I do?
>>2598856
... the side of her head is not a curved perpendicular plane...
>>2597490
I don't even know what the fuck was i doing with the cheeks
The fucking nose, man
Ok, I've been dancing between Steve Huston and Michael Hampton trying to get the torso right, i cant work out what the fuck is making my figures look so unappealing, help please
>>2598894
Fuck, forgot the pic, here it is
>>2597716
turn the image upside down then try
>>2598619
I feel like having limitations helps avoid distractions that would come with having all the extra tools that a program would come with.
Aside from the chicken scratch, is there anything I need to improve on?
Red lining would be appreciated.
Reminder to not be down on yourself, or to tell yourself that you can't draw.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7TXEZ4tP06c
>>2597480 I've been reading keys to drawing but I don't think I'm improving
![IMG_0306[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aKQzvtf.jpg "IMG_0306[1].jpg")
>>2598988
>>2598998
Try warming up by drawing with a crayon. Its cheap and thick and childish and a little silly- so you can't get too tense or anxious with this finished drawing or perfect sketch sort of thing.
>>2597701
Hey its the original anon you responded to! I tried it out i think the shading is alright but the actual features oh god. Is it possible to rely too much on the construction? All my faces look way too long
>>2599035
Forgot to add that the drawing is much darker irl
Question: is it a bad idea to try to improve in too many areas at once?
Going over the things I've practiced in the last week, I notice there's little rhyme or reason to it. Gesture drawing one day, photo study the next, color study, line study, pen control exercises, painting from imagination, and facial expressions.
This is a really bad idea, isn't it? How long should I try to focus on a single subject?
>>2598187
Oda Non is a god.
Learn normal anatomy before you start to styilise (however the fuck you spell it).
you guys know any exercises I can do to improve how well I can control value? doing nothing but value scales gets monotonous after a while
>>2599097
If plain scales are getting boring, maybe you need to apply what you've practiced by drawing some simple shapes and shading them. Cylinders are a good shape to practice with, since you need to have both sharp and soft transitions.
>garbage artists make money off commissions
>I could be making some decent money on the side
>too critical of my art
>it has no monetary value unless it's professional concept artist/studio tier
>so I spend my time in /ic/ going over the basics (again)
>>2599140
ive been going over the basics for years now anon, its awful, i never make any art i wanna make, just stupid studies and practice
dont be like me anon, make the art you wanna make, dont end a sad shell of a human like me
>>2599140
What's stopping you from taking commissions while simultaneously practicing the basics?
>>2599146
>>too critical of my art
>>it has no monetary value unless it's professional concept artist/studio tier
no question thread so i'll ask here
how do you avoid your old pages in your sketchbook from smudging? When I look at the previous pages they're all smudged and it ruins them (although it's all studies so who cares but still)
I use a mechanical pencil so it's not like I'm using a blunt pencil or anything.
polished turd
>>2599195
work on those hands fäm
>>2599181
That just happens woth graphite. There are fixatives you can buy at art stores you can spray onto the paper to keep it from happening. Only do it in a well ventilated room however or outside. You can also use hairspray but this makes your paper turn yellow over time.
>>2598959
her body =/= her right arms.
I think its disorganization on the right arm, either fix the body positioning or the arms. but the rest is cool.
God it's been a long time since I bothered to do something.
I want to get into lewds and color.
>>2599249
I'd suggest focusing on your anatomy and drawing skills before you get into color. Good color is nice, but it's wasted effort if the underlying drawing isn't capable of standing on its own.
I think a 10/1 ratio of practice would be good - for every ten line drawings you do, you pick one to add colors to.
More concrete advice; try to focus on making your strokes long and even strokes for your lines and use a bigger brush when coloring.
>>2599254
Shit drapery; that's not how materials work at all.
>>2598998
Did you spend half an hour as mandated in the exercise on this? Really take a look at the wide range of values in the drawing. The hair is very dark and most of the skin is pretty much completely white. There's a lot of variety of tone between those two.
I personally just finished that exercise too, so take my advice with a grain of salt, but when you do the exercises you should really put your all into it. I tend to kinda half-ass the exercises somewhat in order to progress quicker, but I realise that it's really by doing the exercises while thinking about what you're doing and trying your absolute best that you actually get better.
I'd say go back and try some of the older exercises again while really thinking about what you're drawing and what you're trying to learn with each attempt, and also actively avoid any tendency to symbol-draw.
I think shading is really fucking hard, did you do the tonal bar?
As for my own attempt, yeah the line quality is absolute shit, I half-assed it even though I knew I shouldn't. Fucked up several times with the overall outline of the shapes. No excuses, just gotta keep trying.
>>2599254
>gets told to go to the beginner thread
>actually does it
Hey, that's a good start.
Anyway, I'll just take things from the top.
I have no idea where the light is supposed to be coming from.
The hair is a black mass without depth. There's no difference in how the inside of it is being lit, compared to the outside. It also seems like there's a lot more hair on one side of her head than the other.
Is she supposed to have fur or skin? One of her cheeks has tufts of fur coming out of it, while the other is shaded like it's completely smooth. Similar issues abound on the rest of her skin (or fur or whatever).
Like >>2599266 said, the way her top is portrayed doesn't make any sense. It's clinging tightly to the underside of her breast despite being loose on her back. Did she stick it on with glue? Unless there's some shenanigans going on, it should be hanging straight down. If you want to have the top hang loose but still show off her breasts, consider adding a back light shining through the fabric.
Speaking of breasts, those don't make sense either. Like with the top, there seems to be an invisible force pushing them together. Instead of having a Y-shaped fold in the cleavage, that area should concave, with the breasts falling out to the sides a bit.
There's not enough room between the crotch and the bottom of the abdominal muscles. There's usually about as far between the bellybutton and the crotch as there is between the bellybutton and the nipples.
>>2599309
Wow that's very complete, thank you
Hey bras, I'm a programmer trying to learn drawing.
To be really honest I just want to draw cute girls, how am I doing? Will I ever be able to draw the perfect waifu or should I just give up and consume other people's waifus?
Some shit I tried: http://imgur.com/a/SpEQy
>>2599309
thanks for expandin on my semi-condescending message, I was too pissed off to xplain and you still did it better than me
+1 to you anon
>>2599336
Look into Vilppu, Hampton, Proko; try to learn realism before weaboo waifu desu
>>2599375
>>2599380
Thanks anons, do you have anything specific about those guys you want me to look at? Any torrents or shit like that?
I'm going through Loomis and Keys to Drawing right now, also trying to get through CltrPaint to start drawing using my tablet.
Trying to learn this skill gave me so much respect for good artists, this shit really takes so much effort and you're learning new things every day.
is this right?
>>2599392
you didn't draw the center cube in perspective?
if you can see the top plane, that means you are looking down on it. That can only happen if the thing is below the horizon line.
>>2599384
Read the sticky dude it has books and other usefull shit
And pretty much pic related.
Don't worry every one wants to draw hot loli shit but we need to learn anatomy.
>>2599384
Try to get on CG Peers, it is the literal god of torrents
>>2599392
This is roughly what a cube would actually look like in your two-point perspective. Your points are very close together which would make a very exaggerated fish-eye perspective.
>>2599384
Honestly if you're already going through Loomis and Keys, you don't really need to have any more on your plate at the moment.
Ctrl+paint is good, but maybe not the thing you should start out with. Don't get me wrong, it's not like you can't learn it now, but it might be better overall if you left it for later and focused on making pictures work just with lines for now.
>>2599419
And the other way around, this is a rough idea of where the vanishing points would actually be for the cube you drew. Much farther away and above the cube.
>>2599401
I sort of copied from a reference and didn't use my head
>>2599419
decided to use less shapes
also fixed the perspective
is this right?
>>2599433
The perspective is definitely more correct.
>>2599433
Definitely better (although now the box is rather more rectangular in shape). If you really want to nail perspective I would suggest going through a perspective course of some kind such as this one:
http://www.marshallart.com/other/shop/videos/index.php
It gives you a deep understanding of the fundamentals of drawing in perspective.
Post your art as an reply and I will tell you how far you are and if you are allowed to graduate from /beg/
>>2599403
>posting that cancerous picture that has been refuted a million times
Fuck you, cancerous shit.
Struggling with anatomy, any help ?
![Bare%20Reality_extract1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eJoEZRY.jpg "Bare%20Reality_extract1[1].jpg")
>>2599504
The breast-to-shoulder area is kinda fucked. Go look at reference.
This model's breast isn't as big or perky as the one you're going for, but it's a neat illustration of the anatomy with and without the breast.
Also the ribcage is way too wide below the breast.
>>2593920
I tried to do it again, missed big on some of the proportions (eyes dimensions, cheeks height) but i think overall it looks better than the first try
>>2599445
thanks I'll check that guy out
I learned what I know from Scott Robertson and Perspective made easy, but I haven't gone through the deeper meanings and advanced stuff.
>>2599517
Thank you, what about now ?
>>2599527
You're still symbol-drawing though. Try working more with tone than with line.
>>2599527
Proportions are nice but now try to understand what you are drawing, in real life eyes are not opened like that
I'm /loomis/ing (Fun with a pencil) here, and I was wondering if I was getting the point with the ball slicing topic. Am I missing something?
>>2599540
Still fucked I'm afraid.
Try ignoring the breasts to start with and just drawing the underlying bones and musculature. Ribs and the pectorals on top of that.
>>2599540
>taking advice from a person that showed you a picture of a surgically altered middle-aged cancer patient as a breast reference for your sexy furbabe.
smdh
>>2599559
Try to copy the pictures accurately, take your time. Slow and patient.
>>2599540
you focused too much on making a round lines with the underboobs and cleavage. this makes it look like plastic surgery instead natural booobs. to make it look round, shading is whats important
>>2597484
complete newbie at art, that being said, this is my first drawing ever... any helpful advice/criticism is appreciated. try not to focus on the hair too much since i kind of ran out of room.
>>2597486
hows my sketch? i kno proportaions are off, i have a habbit of making the legs longer compared to the torso size. (also lazy cross hatching)
>>2599615
>body guides
>for referenced work
>>2599613
resize and reoriantate bfor posting plz
AmIFeelingItNow?
>>2599623
shit my bad, this should be better
>>2599584
I see where I goofed up. I also found this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EPNYWeEf1U
This Prosko guy is pretty based to listen to.
>>2599035
I don't know about your construction process but right now I think you should just focus on getting the measurements correct. See the cheek and the width of her eye sockets.
As for the values, they are still a bit too unclear on some parts. Pick only few values and stick with them until you've blocked the shapes in, then you can smoothen the edges. You could also try a marker and just use single color on white paper like >>2598856.
>>2599621
i dont know wat im doing
Inspired by >>2599527 I tried my hand at this one
>>2593920 →
Same anon as this >>2599298
Any general tips? I'd like to be less messy, is there a good way to fill in those large black areas quickly without scribbling wildly using a regular pencil, or should I just suck it up and do them more carefully / use cross-hatching?
>>2599649
>shading
Grab your pencil near the back end, lay it nearly flat against the paper, and wipe it back and forth.
>>2598856
The left eye looks pretty accurate but overall the measurements don't match that well. Here's the original picture with max contrast.
>>2599652
Alright, I've tried this before but couldn't quite get those deeper shades with it. I guess I ought to simply buy a softer pencil for shading. Thanks!
Can someone please draw over where her pelvis and femur would be? I'm trying to get good at visualizing people's skeletons. Is this woman too THICK for a beginner? Excuse the mspaint.
>>2599661
>deeper shades
>pencil
This is why I draw with a black pen. You should try it.
>>2599690
Yeah that's a good idea actually. Time to hit the art-supply store.
>>2599684
no you got it
>>2599684
The femur's further into the leg, but if you aren't thinking of depth then I think you got it about right.
>>2599636
It's Proko(penko)
Should I avoid mechanical pencils and just focus on using a number two pencil? Should I buy a pack of the pencils with different hardnesses?
I started this a couple minutes ago, using this as reference:
http://reference.sketchdaily.net//static/referenceImages/Pallas___19_by_mjranum_stock.jpg
please give me anatomy critique
>>2599740
Practise gesture first, helps you get a feel for the movement of the figure and make the drawing more dynamic and energetic.
>>2597480
Would anyone mind giving me proper critique besides Loomis? Everyone else I talk to keeps being an asshat.
>>2597480
Anon here. I'm the one that said something about Loomis and asshats.
>>2597480
Still here. Recommend anything but Loomis, I don't like his teaching.
>>2597480
Here's another.
>>2599740
draw nude models and actually draw the bones, not just cylinders. the orientation of the chest and pelvis are wrong, head too big. draw the hands dummy
>>2599749
>>2599750
vilppu. people give you sarcastic replies because it looks like you are posting 5 minute drawings and that you're not even trying
>>2599733
What's a number two in H/B values?
>>2597480
Last one.
>>2599750
I also didn't enjoy Loomis' teaching style. Bert Dodson's Keys to Drawing is much better to begin with imo because it teaches you how to see and think when drawing rather than how to draw in a particular style. It's more open to your own personal interpretation of the world, but it still teaches you the fundamentals that should go into all types of drawings.
Right now what you're drawing is not your own style, it's an amalgamation of various eyes, hair, ears etc. that you have learned from other artists and pieced together without truly knowing HOW they fit together. In order to draw for example a cartoon nose you should learn how to draw a real nose and how to place it on any face at any angle, and then you simplify that in your own style.
>>2599760
HB
>>2599754
Those weren't 5 minutes. Those literally took me forever to draw.
