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Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make your mom proud.
AVOID asking unrelated questions, there is a question thread for that.
Visit the usual "Artbook Thread" to find your desired books. (Or look in the new sticky)
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There's a new sticky in town! You can see it at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VfDTpLLVl5bWUGWguswKpPFml533luI8-NBd1EGYHnA/edit
>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.
TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.
Old thread: >>2519992
Pls constructive bully me
>>2524228
Lot of villpu videos rigth now. This is drawn from a picture. What do you think?
>>2524244
Forgot the picture
>>2524250
>5312x2988
![IMG_0225[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bcJEJHo.jpg "IMG_0225[2].jpg")
>>2524268
Are you the bird anon? Your values are still really really light can barely see your drawing. Looks pretty nice though.
>>2524329
did an over paint for you, it was very quick so sry if it suks. tried to seperate your light from shadow because it looks like your char is lit by strong sunlight, and you rendered urs like it was cloudy
anyways hope this helps.
=/
i did a dumb concept thing out here pretending like i'm at FZD
it's so much more fun to draw what you want rather than going about your studies
>>2524431
this is a heavily edited picture and probably not the best to be referencing. the subtle midtones and shadows of the face are all edited out, and so it's a bit difficult as a beginner piece. also, you may want to work on construction of facial features, it will help you position things more accurately, rather than just pasting features roughly where you think they belong.
>>2524442
drawing from imagination is important too, so keep it up alongside your studies anon.
>>2524250
Pls rotate. Head and neck too big, legs a bit narrow though it could just be the angle the picture's taken at. Keep going.
>>2524228
>>2524230
symbols
>>2524250
resize, oh and your gesture is weak but keep working on it.
>>2524268
nice dog.
>>2524329
a lot of this needs work but is good to have some fun at times.
work on that hand and feet anatomy, draw some reptiles maybe, work iyour anatomy in general, I'll try to make a redline of it but I can't promise you anything.
on the painting, you need to push your values more.
I fucked up and clicked on post.
>>2524431
your lines tell me what you're not confident drawing, and that's hair, watch proko's video on hair, it will help you.
your nose is too wide and your face is too long, use more reference lines for this (proko also has a video on using lines for lifedrawing, give it a try if you haven't, and practice more)
>>2524442
it is yeah, but keep in mind you should also do studies too.
>>2524444
Thanks! Can you give me a tip on this posture?
>>2524460
Thanks, I need to practice more and yeah, I'm not that confident. Used to draw better when I was young. I'll check that hair video. Thanks again!
>>2524461
pose drawn doesn't match the picture, you're not quite drawing what you see but rather what you know. best to practice your figure drawing.
>>2524473
your lines are chicken scratch and the face features are symbols.
study more your anatomy and do gestures instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74HR59yFZ7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mrhW6REKNQ
watch these videos and then you're gonna draw some timed gestures from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qw_yS-aZ_Y (NSFW, contains a nude male)
I'm a noob at digital drawing.
How bad is it?
>>2524208
are there benefits to doing studies in ink? or is it a waste of time? it's definitely challenging
>>2524531
in a way it makes you stroke in a different mindset if your pen has no pressure (which could be beneficial depending on how you like to draw) and also needing to have some sort of hatch system instead of pressure-based shading
depending on how gud u are it could be appealing
hhhhhhhhh
What should I do to improve in figure drawing/anatomy?
some told me the perspective was off when i posted this in the last thread. how is it now?
>>2524560
you should start by rotating and resizing
don't draw in such dynamic angles if you are clueless in proportion already
>>2524562
whoops forgot pic
>>2524563
Any examples of rotating and resizing exercices that I should do?
>>2524569
lol
![IMG_0227[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/j2T3UgC.jpg "IMG_0227[1].jpg")
http://ctrlpaint.myshopify.com/products/digital-sketching-starter-kit
To anyone who watched at least the first three series, is it a good resource?
>>2524410
It helped a lot, i feel like blind person now, anyway thanks :)
>>2524560
just practice drawing boxes in perspective dude, once you feel a little more confident that's when you start putting figures in them. Also pls resize and rotate your image.
>>2524457
>symbols
Primarily the face or everything in equal amount?
bumping
>>2524731
boy that thumbnail looks like straight trash
Graphite portrait
>>2524763
nice touch, never stop drawing until you die
Done with this for now. Kind of rushed things as I got bored with it. Could use some crits as to the amount of detail vs. time etc.. I can't keep up that level of intensity, cause it takes too long and it kind of grinds me down. But on the other hand it might be good for learning? Also should I add some color just to see how that would work, and if so, what kind of medium? I'm thinking greens and purples for the ground and maybe black or dark for the negative space.
forgot pic
>>2524763
It reminds me of Picasso's self portrait at 18
Not gonna make it
what happened to the "meet an artist in your area" thread? I can't find it. was it deleted?
>>2524847
yep
>>2524829
big hand, big feets
>>2524780
is that pointillism? holy fuck i hated that in art class. but the detail is nice, you could add colour if you want or feel it would be good practice. if this is from a reference definitely try to study the colours from that.
>>2524912
or resizing head but i can't handle
it's already colored
how do you fix the hair lines?
>>2524204
I like graffiti as a style and want to learn it (not tagging/spray painting on walls and stuff just in sketch books) anyone know any good books to get started?
>>2524935
if you are drawing in lines it is about stylization.
look at other artists how they do it. pick one you like, try it. if you want to paint, lines serve only as a guide until you actually paint them in. some dont even use guidelines for painting if the subject isnt difficult.
>>2524935
A decent rule of thumb is to divide hair into 3-4 sizeable forms and build minute yet clarifying details on top of them. You are somewhat on the right track yet seem to be stroking each strand haphazardly.
>>2524829
i missed u and ur broken english
Not sure how to put this and also not sure if it the right thread.
But I was wondering, how do you improve your drawing/sketching skills.
Like, let me elaborate, my pictures don't look super shitty or anything, anatomy and perspective are usually correct, but all my sketches tend to look like hot mess, it's just piles and piles of lines and I have to erase and redraw it a shitton of times to make it look somewhat neat.
Then I saw drawings of an acquaintance, and it seems like they did their lines in one go and it looked super clean and neat.
So how do I have to practice in order to achieve that?
I figure it would save a lot of time if I don't have to always draw shit over again..
>>2525225
A lot of practice. It's called line confidence. The more you trust yourself to make the stroke that you want instead of tiny, miniscule hairy lines that eventually do get the point across, the better your lines will look.
Pic related is a shitty example but you get what I mean. Just keep drawing.
>>2524210
>can't into facial features and hair
Hate how the shape of the head is always so well done then when it comes to everything else I blow hard
>>2525232
youre drawing symbolic
>>2525232
This is all just symbols without a sense of construction. You spent like 5 minutes on this probably.
I don't mean to be that guy, but... loomis
>>2525239
I honestly wish I spent 5 minutes on it... I haven't finished reading on loomis, I'll admit that but from what I've read so far, no explanation is given on how to do facial features
It's always the circle, making lines so it will look like a sphere, the jaw and then the planes of the face
I also read fairly into keys to drawing and I do my best to draw what I see and not what I know and I still get this as a result
Only been drawing for a month and no matter how hard I try not to symbol draw, I still do it
>>2525231
Thank you, but that's not quite what I meant.
I'm sorry for not being very clear as english is not my first language.
It's not like I draw chicken scratches or anything, it's more that my shapes are extremely loose and I need multiple tries to get things to be not wobbly or deformed, so my sketches tend to be extremely messy and I'd like to work on skipping that messy sketch stage.
>pic related example of my way too wiggly sketch
the beg thread is a lot more comfier than the other generals
there's disputes here occasionally but almost all the others are just people arguing
Is there any book that help to break down shapes of complex 3D forms? I'm trying to study the bones and drawing the pelvic from steep angles were so damn difficult to get my head around.
>>2525284
I don't think a book would be made on a topic as specific as that but Proko's introduction on structure (if you haven't seen it) is actually very insightful in that as well as making things look -more- 3d. This video kind of explains it backwards in the way that you want it still stands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEtdDvK6Xo
>>2525257
https://youtu.be/-NIvZZ7x3dc?t=29m9s
>>2525291
thanks, I know some of these already, but this is still a good find. I'll check his other vids.
I guess there is no way to get around with foreshortening easily other than intensive perspective training.
>>2525257
It seems like you aren't really thinking about the lines and where they need to go before drawing them - you're just drawing something quickly and continue to put lines down until it looks right. You should spend more time thinking about the shape and what the line needs to look like before drawing anything. You could look at the first lesson on drawabox.com where he goes over "ghosting" your lines before drawing them for example.
>>2525300
Do people ghost on digital as well? It feels quite difficult.
>>2525310
Why wouldn't you?
what needs fixing and how do I fix it?
>>2525418
my dick can see the faint signs of sexy already, you're on the right track
>>2525421
Get your dick checked
The whole 8 heads high figure thing isn't working with sitting poses but i hope this somehow looks alright.
morning warmup study
>>2525433
is there any reason why still want to pussyfoot around with your lineweight
>>2525442
Right now I rather worry about not messing up the figure completley, the advanced stuff can wait till I eventualy get basic things right.
HELP MEEEEEEEEEEE
>>2525471
Nice high school art.
Shitposting aside, you'd benefit from the sticky a lot (read the one in the OP, not on the front page) and I'm not trying to meme you. Trying to pull of a pose as dynamic as that without knowledge of the fundamentals comes out like shit.
And don't ask "what specifically do I need work on?" or you're going to get frustrated when instead of the right answer (which is "everything"), people will give you sarcasm. There is a threshold when everything is so off that the only thing they can tell you is to read the sticky and start your fundamentals. Keep drawing and don't stop learning.
Right now I don't know how to progress from where I am now in pic related. How do you move from sketch successfully to finished work or even a semi decent model? Also please point out any problems you find with these. I desperately need the criticism.
>>2525418
This is petty good, you just gotta keep adding knowledge like landmarks and anatomy, but proportions and geture wise it looks good, maybe the breast are kinda meh, but for some reason those are a common issue
>>2525549
muh comfort zone: the person
its been over a year goddamn
>>2525550
where do you think he would be if he wasn't doing this shit for this long
>>2525549
How long does it take you to do one of these?
>>2525563
40 minutes to 1 hour
I think I am way to analytical. I have been drawing for about 2 months now and I feel like the more I learn the more I actually regress. My first couple drawings that I spent time on look a lot better than what I can do now. I can't even get the basic fucking anime face down anymore. This is so frustrating. I did start with paper and pencil but moved on and bought a tablet because I found it incredibly boring to draw on paper. Buying the tablet sparked my motivation again. I am currently reading Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain but haven't gotten around to drawing my hand yet only the portrait is done. I've read up and watched videos on anatomy and at one point I thought I got it but then I lost it. In my experience in learning things I have always found that no matter how someone explains something to me unless I "GET IT". I can "get it" instantly or it may take days or weeks. I understand that I won't be drawing anything amazing for at least a year or two but still. I don't plan on giving up and will be buying an actual screen tablet in a month or two. Here is my progress.
I know it's not great, but it's a sketch nonetheless. From my Albrecht Durer book, one of my favorites I actually stopped drawing for a long while and I'm recently getting back into it.
Anyways, go ahead and let me have it
>>2525620
have a free tip: resize
>>2525594
You've been drawing for two months but it doesn't even looks like you've learned anything. You're not going to learn anything from just looking at anime, even if you're learning anatomy and trying to only draw anime. You need to try to draw realistically before you can translate that realism into something unrealistic.
I know because I did the same thing as you, I wanted to draw shitty anime. Now I'm learning traditional art and my art has improved more in one month than it has in two years. Not saying that learning traditional is easy, but I've been dedicating the majority of every day to learning and studying art.
go with christ
>>2525242
Those lines are not " to make it look like a sphere". They are there, for construction and for placement of the features. You didn't even read the first pages of drawing head and hands. Otherwise you really must know.
So I have this problem, I want my art to look as realistic as possible but more stylized, can anyone give me some tips in how to improve the head (yes I'm aware of Andrew loomis and how he draws heads but gives poor examples of how to draw it)
>>2525667
Fixed
>>2525631
I agree that I haven't learned much in two months. My practice/study method is flawed and I know that. One day I am like "I'm going to draw eyes for a week" and here I am 2 days later with only 1 eye drawn and doing something else. So far there was only 1 anatomy video series on youtube that was making sense to me but I can't find it again. It basically made the body into boxes/rectangles. But I guess you could say my problem overall is discipline. Even when I workout I never follow my planned routine. I am always adding something or cutting something. Granted I still make noticeable progress. I guess that kind of method doesn't work with drawing. To make it worse is I have all the time in a day to draw. I like to draw but I until I actually start drawing I always find something else to do. I have done nothing today for almost 11 hours and have only drawn maybe 40 minutes. What I need is a structured practice routine that I can actually stick to.
>>2525667
Stylizing comes passively along the way. A lot of people here started from loomis, why doesn't all of /ic/'s art look exactly the same? Style comes from both what you leave out and what you add in. Focusing on developing your style (especially this early on) will actually push it away from you. Focus on the fundamentals and your style will subconsciously emerge, most of the time without you realizing it.
But hey. That's just my view on it.
>>2525639
Of course I know that you fucking scrub.
Literally the first thing that is said in the book is that those lines help make a simple flat circle look like a 3D sphere
Once you have a sphere you can more easily avoid having your facial features look flat
I have practiced this shit over and over again but it doesn't help get away from symbol drawing
Infact there is hardly any mention in the books on how to not symbol draw the face. It just helps with placement and nothing more
Proko is the only guy that actually has lessons worth a damn and when I watch his shit I understand everything much faster than shitlord loomis much a do about nothing books
>>2525620
What is the name of the book, if you don't mind me asking?
>>2525682
The Complete Woodcuts of Albrecht Durer
Another thing I did ways back
newbie question here. Does slow is drawing slow? i noticed i take a really long time to do something that shouldnt. For example in upsidedown exercise in the sticky, it took me like half an hour to do a leg if not more.
>>2525699
how slow is slow?***** (i messed up)
>>2525506
can't say i see anything wrong with these other than a lack of line confidence in the lower ones. not sure what you mean by finished, if you mean fully rendered with colour or drawing people with actual hands, there's no first step other than just 'go for it.' you have to try, anon. look up tutorials on rendering if need be.
>>2525700
if you're new to this i'd say that's relatively normal. speed shouldn't be of too much concern at this stage.
>>2525678
anon here, yeah i get that part, i was talking about how to properly set up because i feel like im doing it wrong, also i want my characters to look more fatter or husky so do i make the jaw line bigger or wider or what?
>>2525681
practice this come back later:
http://imgur.com/gallery/0O7P8gu
Started reading Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain recently. It's the first book that's really clicked with me. Tried Key to Drawing before and I hated reading through it. Pic is an upside down drawing like the Stravinksy. Couldn't have drawn that shit if it wasn't upside down
>>2525674
I will propose you a solution. It's very simple too.
tl;dr Cut everything from your life and just draw.
Since you say you don't follow a planned routine then just don't have a routine at all. Next, cut everything that isn't drawing. If you really want to become good, you need to put in the work. Don't procrastinate too. That will fuck you up and you won't recover unless you break the cycle. It's basically motivation and confidence. You suck, then you have low confidence and therefore low motivation. So make sure to draw a lot and include some designs like anime or whatever to motivate yourself. Just spend some time free drawing to relax from studying. Make sure to have fun with it too, don't stress yourself out over it. If you constantly do and don't find it fun, maybe art just isn't for you. Anyways, if you motivate yourself and continue to put in the hard work, you'll improve and seeing it will build your confidence which feeda into your motivation. Getting good at art is a very long and boring process. It takes hundreds evem thousanda of hours. That means you have to really push yourself to draw for 3+ hours a day for a few months. If you can't then, maybe think about whether this is something you really want to do.
>>2525727
Well considering I draw digitally kind of limits where I can draw. But what exactly do I draw, anything? I feel if I just drawing real humans over and over again that I wouldn't be learning much besides copying. But I'll give this a try, thanks.
>>2525733
There is no limit to drawing on digital. The only limit is yourself. You just have to break your limit and move out of your comfort zone. The more you move out, the more you will struggle and that's good because that shows you're working on something you're not good at and you will continue to improve if you do so.
You shouldn't just draw to draw either. It takes more than that to become a good artist. You have to understand what you're drawing. Like why does the arm rotate like this? Why does light have this kind of effect on this shape? Copying isn't necessarily bad since you'll at least be working your muscle memory, but you only know how to draw that one thing over and over again unless ypu understand the why. Explore and find out why the human body is like that instead of just copying. You'll eventually find a pattern, a flow, and you'll understand it better and be able to do it better. This extends into all your future artworks too. Anatomy is a core fundamental. Understanding it from the base will allow you to draw monsters, animals, all types of things just because you worked to understand.
Now, you can draw anything. There's no problem as long as you're putting in the time and getting better. You could focus a lot on anatomy because you want to get really good at character design. That's alright. You could perhaps focus on perspective to present your character in a different manner and bring a sense of life into them. You could focus on composition and find out what makes an art piece interesting such as closing off the edges to draw attention to a visual center. So draw and if you see that you are lacking something, then work on that aspect and get better, repeat the cycle and there will be improvement.
>>2525733
>But what exactly do I draw, anything?
If you don't know what to draw, practice drawing basic shapes like boxes, cylinders, spheres, cones and pyramids in all sizes and perspectives. Understand why and how those shapes are distorting when you view them from a different angle. If you can draw those nicely, you can draw anything including nice figures.
>>2525733
get some paper and learn to use it. drawing digital only i think is a hinderance . i had to learn that for myself .
i use to be a digital only person and then i started drawing on paper , not only did it cause me to draw more but also that i needed better hand control, in digital there is ctrl z , on paper there is no such thing.
in the end me trying to get gud on paper helped me a lot. and you wont be limited to where you can draw at
or you could always be a fancy pants and buy one of those portable cintiqs.
>>2525733
also drawing people in real life is called life drawing, not copying . it helps improve depth and anatomy (and if your doing it in color that to) and doing it over and over increases your mental visual library.
FUCKING APP RESIZE MY FUCKING PIC
i feel like my gouache isnt as opaque as it should be. also im completely fucking lost
/beg/ tell me i'm not the only one that has sex dreams of human vileplumes
>>2525820
i think im getting used to this
I feel like I fucked up every single gesture here. What is the secret?
>>2524738
I'm sorry anon! Are u still there?
>>2525990
>>2524738
More still life with colored pencils. Looking at them side by side I can now see that I should be bolder with pushing the darks darker, but what else? Please be specific and pick some thing within my grasp.
>>2525893
Idk man they look pretty good to me. I can see the motion and clearly tell what pose it is. Your lines are long and flowing. GJ Anon
>>2524204
Does anyone here have the pdf file of Artistic Anatomy by Paul Richer. As well as the series of books called On The Fabric Of The Human Body made by Andreas Vesalius. I already posted in the Artbook thread with no success and was hoping someone here might have the files.
>>2526103
>Artistic Anatomy
do you want a direct download link or can you torrent?
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:A4856EEE68E2AB62768FBC24882EFE81CE4385DA&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fbt4.t-ru.org%2Fann%3Fmagnet
>The Fabric Of The Human Body
>de humani corporis fabrica
for what purpose anon
>>2526007
The perspective is a bit off on the top flower, maybe working on that. Otherwise it looks really good if you're just focusing on form and not doing light and shadow. A new challenge for you.
>>2525471
your art reminds me of this girl i knew. we were friends, but one day she posted this piece she had been working on forever. i said it looks like shit. she got mad and i said why post it if she only wanted compliments. needless to say we arent friends anymore
>>2526149
If you have a direct link to the material that would be preferred. The reason for wanting the fabric of the human body is for Titian's illustrations as well as the information on the anatomy of the human body. I saw only a brief part of the book because my figure drawing teacher brought it to class one day, and ever since I have been looking for files with the translation of said book. Thank you by the way I really appreciate you taking the time to post these files.
>>2526155
Ty. I will try and paint on top of the old 1 digitally to try and fix the perspective and add some light and shadow.
>>2526165
here's the paul richer book
>https://mega.nz/#!FxN3iDwC!EbSyKMkTVa8-HniKCpi6ewXYn0UXRC4Xiu3VlGF58HY
i don't actually the fabric of the human body book, but I do have a book dover published that's just an annotated collection of the anatomy illustrations
>https://mega.nz/#!N5kQiK6a!KaH4zjRUT9Ko4FeWF1iERNnp5hsnfjwqrShGu4rrcrw
this one is an epub file
>>2526221
Thanks again for the books, and the annotated version is probably just as good.
>>2525848
nice ligameme
>>2526434
The draw thread is over there pal
This is for beginners
>>2526436
sorry :c
>>2526445
>>2526436
holy shit he thought you were serious
>>2525466
>Advanced stuff
Lines are "basic things"
Trying to learn digital painting. For some reason my lines are cleaner when using the mouse instead of the Wacom Tablet.
Didn't know about this place and got referred over here. Probably going to fuck something up in how I post this or something since I'm new here, but here's a reference drawing of Umeko from Log Horizon. Any words would be cool, I have never tried drawing outside of stick figures before.
Just trying to learn basic things.
>>2526530
I highly suggest you read the sticky. It's got all the information you'd ever need.
How is this?
>>2526540
It's decent. A bit messy in terms of linework and design, but it's not terrible or anything.
Go through Scott Robertson's How to Draw book, and practice drawing cities from reference if you want to get better. Work on your lines, line weight, value and rendering, that kind of shit. Scott Robertson's got a lot of great information for stuff like this. FZD too.
>>2524517
I actually kinda like the idea you had. Don't be so hard on yourself anon. Eyes look symbolic
>>2526530
I've seen worse first tries!
Definitely try traditional realism before anime, in my opinion. Anime style is a shorthand for realism, and your anime art will always look slightly off and anatomically incorrect (even for anime) if you don't learn realism first. The sticky is a really good place to start. Good luck!
>>2526589
I would say, it's not so much about drawing realist, but the fundamentals. All the core fundamentals are important even for anime stylization. What you don't need is to draw realistic, it's more like you need to know how to draw anatomy. That's important. Once you know that, it's very easy to apply to anything else. There's the other fundamentals too, but the time will come when there's a realization that something is missing, in which case go to the other fundamentals until you cover them all.
>>2526596
>fundamental anatomy isn't realism
>>2526604
If you're muhstyling so hard that fundamental anatomy is irrelevant to you, you're muhstyling too hard.
>>2526530
>that chin
i-is that you sycra senpai?
Okay.. So I watched a video on how to draw female faces and some ended up with this.Yes I know the jar is way too wide and chicken scratch etc. What are other voice over tutorials for female faces?
>>2526516
First time trying shading at this level. Third time going this far in Digital Painting in Photoshop.
How is this? roughly 30 minutes in
>>2526686
I know you said you were trying to learn digital painting but I think you should really start with getting your basics down like anatomy, proportions, not symbol drawing, etc. It will help your digital paintings a lot more in the long run.
how is my buk guys
>>2526694
I'm also learning basics. Drawing on Wacom is a lot different even with a scanned drawing, I feel so I'm well aware my proportions are rather off.
Is it possible to git gud at drawing if you have terrible handwriting, eye-hand coordination and you're useless at drawing proportional basic shapes and straight lines?
I mostly want to get into pencil drawing realistic stuff like faces and bodies, and maybe animals and flowers. Literal generic-tier stuff with shading and shit, I know.
I'm not very creative, which is why I really like realistic stuff, my only limit would be my ability and not my lack of ideas, in a sense. I've been drawing a few things like eyes and mouths and body positions and I just love how much "sense" things make when I'm doing it, shading tones and light and other processes involved give me a weird satisfaction.
I've only been doing it for a few days but I watched a few videos and I've already improved, and soon I'm going to buy actual pencils and tools for drawing instead of using a basic writing pencil and drawing on the back of old A4 bills.
What's the best way to start drawing?
What should I know about this style and also improving in it?
Is it bad to start off drawing eyes and body parts? I mean, should I be practising other much more basic things first?
Thank you very much.
>>2526688
the eye on the left is slightly larger than the right, shadow outlining the cheekbone makes it look like the cheekbone stretches all the way to the front of the face. really like your use of colour though.
>>2526708
even handwriting can be improved, anon. take a look at the sticky, i'm sure everyone would recommend practicing basic shapes to start, but i also think practicing anatomy alongside it would be great. seems you're really interested in that too, which is important.
One thread late but here it is, anons. Tear me apart.
some practice tonight.
>>2524212
>>2526744
Nother
>>2526751
Free those arms, anon. Looks like some internal magnet is sucking her arms in. I used to do that a lot, too. Then I realized how rigid it looked.
>>2526751
symbols
loomis
fuck my shit up pls
>>2526470
>>2526436
>being complete d/ic/ks
Come on you guys, not cool.
Started reading the sticky.
>>2526804
sorry about size. I fixed it
>>2526686
And what's left for the night. Will probably finish it tomorrow night. Not bad for a third imo, but still has fundamental issues.
Anyone into frogs? Advice on this?
>>2526828
please practice drawing with a wacom by drawing models. I used to be like you and practicing gestures, form, and coloring on wacom helped me so much.
>>2526840
I like it! Even though it's still a sketch, I can definitely feel the frog. Just draw more from reference, you're doing great!
>>2524208
I spent an hour on this, and it came out about as well as I expected. I've been going through "Fun with a Pencil," but I think I could use another resource to help me with faces.
Does anyone here have a particular book or anything else you can suggest for drawing faces?
>>2526871
I also warmed up with a few gestures for 20 minutes beforehand.
>>2526840
>oh shit waddup!
>>2526871
consider constructing the head first instead of going straight to the face
Proko has a series of vids on loomis' head contstruction (from the Drawing the Head and Hands book), it might give you a better idea of how you can think of the head and how the face is related to its construction
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EPNYWeEf1U
>>2526878
Thank you. I'm going to go through the video and work on heads more.
>>2525721
Nice mate, keep up the work.
>>2526007
You should probably really lay the colored pencil down on it, you are going pretty light, even the light parts of the flower are a vibrant red. You gotta really cake it on and then your drawing will REALLY pop. Try it on a test paper.
>>2526745
I don't know if you have life drawing experience yet, but some of those angles are wrong, especially the pelvis. Look at your reference picture and draw a line connecting both left and right side of the iliac crest and you will see how much the hips slant compared to what you drew. The arm that isn't holding the cloth isn't one consistent line, the upper portion is more perpendicular with the horizon. Personally sometimes I just use my pencil and try turn it until it is at the angle of the object I want to draw if I have a slightly hard time trying to get it down.
>>2526871
The eyes are usually at the mid point of the face and the spacing in between the two eyes is about an eye's length apart. That will probably help out in giving you at least one consistent land mark.
>>2526828
Seeing how it is a female you might want to make the hips wider, at least as wide as the shoulders.
>>2525631
>You're not going to learn anything from just looking at anime
That is false. While you can learn a lot more from drawing many different things you cannot say he isn't applying and honing various skills while copying anime. Making sure that the negative space is similar from what that copy from, proper angles when drawing the figure, items, and so on, and if it is properly proportioned from the image that is copied.
Those skills can be applied to other aspects of drawing.
fetish: being called a gook while my boipucci is pounded
>>2526479
I meant lineweight, not lines themself.
Lines are all I use and know.
Here I tried to keep lineweight in mind and just this head took me one and a half hour.
Drawing every line with perfect thickness gonna take years to master.
Anyone feel free to point out mistakes.
>>2526398
the thumbnail looks cool at least
>>2525991
bla bla symbol drawing....bla bla the arms and hands are fucked up....bla bla this looks like a 10 minute sketch
I'm never gonna make it...
>>2527219
Try looking at light and tone more, give thought to line weight when working purely with lines.
>>2527223
Would that have fixed my drawing significantly? The reason I didn't go much into tone and shadow is because I wanted to get
better at lines and anatomy now until I can do it almost effortlessly then go more into the details
>>2525893
22 made me giggle.
>>2527228
I think when you are an absolute beginner trying to translate 3d into a bunch of 2d lines is hard. You need to know more to do that off the bat. How about trying to translate into shapes. Like tubes and spheres and cubes. That will help with anatomy. As for putting tones in your picture, I think it will help getting the right proportions and lines when copying a picture. i.e. there needs to be space for shadows between these two lines. instead of just eyeballing how far it should be. Not the anon you're replying to BTW.
Has anyone tried to set up a spaced repetition scheme for art practice? I was thinking of something like breaking eg. anatomy up into manageable chunks and drawing a bit of whatever comes up each day.
I've started up practising several times (with basic geometry, anatomy, fun with a pencil etc) and then dropped it after a couple of weeks at most. I can keep up a good groove on languages with flashcards, so I thought taking the same approach might work for art. Any experiences or other ideas to keep engaged?
How do I clear my mind and focus? Anytime I try to draw, thoughts my incompetence at my relatively annoying security job flood into my mind. This never happens when I write or do anything else.
>>2527273
usually i blast really loud music into my ears until i go deaf, like a good movie soundtrack or some heavy metal. can't think of anything else when that shit's playing.
>>2527246
I admit I only did the shapes part for the face and not so much for the rest of the body
I've heard the term greyscale here before, I don't know if that's what you mean by adding tone. Still new to digital work
>>2526871
Take a peek at "Drawing the Head and Hands".
In particular you could touch up your nose, construction, landmarking, planes, and hair.
Use guidelines and proper construction along with proper line confidence.
[spoiler]Also practice more.[/spoiler]
>>2527334
Wow I'm retarded I forgot spoilers don't work in /ic/
>>2527219
Start understanding gesture and anatomy before diving into a fully detailed figure
going through loomis atm, any feedback?
>>2525990
Been through the literal shittiest art block for 3 months now
Figure practicing realistic instead of shit anime style will help and do basics
How'd I do?
>>2527354
I suck at gesture no matter how hard I try... I always make my lines simple and do my best not to focus on contour but it's always shit
pic related
>>2527398
You're drawing way too many straight lines and boxy shapes instead of flowing !!curves!! - that is the key word.
>>2527400
I guess I'll watch proko's vid for the one millionth time on the topic (more like my 3rd time)
I'll try again and not disappoint you /ic/
how is this coming? its my first gouache after about a year and a half doing digital
>>2527257
It's called school.
And as you can see, it doesn't work for everyone.
>>2527409
Sorry for the spam but I'm riled up today and want to improve so badly
Is this any better? Watched proko again and took anon's advice
>>2527447
No. Go give Vilppu a shot.
>>2527447
You also need to realize how integral proportion and anatomy is to making gesture. The old masters say to get into gesture but they make theirs look godly because they understand anatomy. So get started on proportion at the same time you do gesture.
>>2527494
Should I get into value and perspective before anatomy?
>>2527378
those eyes are huge, ear's also a bit big, not sure why you shaded in around the eyes so much. watch your values.
>>2527378
and ffs resize your image
>>2527496
you should get into drawing basic shapes before anatomy and work on perspective alongside it
>>2527379
rotate/resize
>>2527513
When should I move on from then to anatomy?
>>2525232
>eyes 3/4 of the way up the head
m8 at least try to remember the super simple shit
>>2527532
when you're decent at drawing shapes
painting is paining
i made a rference about facial aging
from hogarth's drawing human head
http://imgur.com/j2Ip3Bu
use or study this if you need it
Did an anatomical master study. Any thoughts before the last set of lines?
>>2527746
The original
>>2527608
That's kind of vague. I don't know what decent means except for myself.
In desperate need of painting advice. Read up on blocking in values and highlights but still sort of lost and feels like I'm painting haphazardly.
>>2527764
Go back to the drawing board literally. Try practicing being a draftsman first with these theories and ideas from painting. Then move on to painting.
>>2527764
I suggest painting more opaquely. You are getting ugly overlaps from transparent strokes. Instead of using black and grazing multiple times for a dark value, choose the correct mid value and paint it in more opaquely.
What brushes and colors should I use to give mountains a nice rough texture? All I have right now is a base grey.
>>2527764
Try the squint trick. Blur your vision by squinting (or removing your glasses if you have them), and then looking at the picture. You should still be able to easy distinguish and recognize all important parts of the image, even when detail is lost.
>>2527777
Seeing as it's digital. You can just zoom out for this too. It's kind of the same effect.
what do you guys think of this figure? It's a quick sketch I did for a picture I'm going to do later.
>>2527795
that is the figure of someone who's about to fall flat on their face. centre of balance.
i could draw cartoony but i never was able to draw realistically
>>2527813
another self portrait from two years back, i spent a bit longer on this one tho
>>2527814
>>2527813
an extremely recent drawing from a few weeks back
>>2527816
>2988x5312
>>2527816
tips?
>>2527818
Well if I took a photo of it landscape then the picture would be filled with alot empty space
>>2527822
can u read the op and rotate + resize
nobody's gonna critique your 2-minute doodles otherwise
![IMG_0230[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/74vD1RE.jpg "IMG_0230[2].jpg")
Here's another gesture exercise for today.
>>2527334
>Also practice more
Will do. I find concentrating and staying on track with drawing is one of the most difficult parts for me right now.
>>2527746
Some more studies.
>>2527901
I like how dynamic your poses are, but their's some balancing issues. Depending on the slant of the hips/upper torso, the opposite side of the body will be in reverse, so that their's an organic balance.
But it's not like I know shit anyway, I'm just a big bag of bad opinions masquerading as a human being.
>>2527916
all right. I'll do longer gestures so I can work on adding more balance and volume to my figures.
>yfw you realized drawing the basic forms of things makes it 10x easier to draw
>>2527930
>drawing the basic forms
Congrats, you're on the way of making it.
>>2527379
You should probably work from a bigger reference so you aren't straining yourself to see details. The most apparent thing is that the hair doesn't cover the eye at all in the reverence, also the bottom of the top lip is too straight. There should be a lot more curves in there.
Can someone crit this for me please
>>2527989
this is what we call a polished turd
read the sticky
It feels like when I draw from life I can never grasp the gesture, and I end up just following the contour.
>>2525631
>you gotta draw muh realism to be able to draw muh animu
Seriously senpai fuck off
