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few things from work today
>>2503672
trippy you always draw people with short arms, is it by design? Liking the brush work tho.
>>2503719
nightmare fuel right there.
>>2503726
not really, if it passes as an arm im normally happy.
>>2503389
OP please don't post unrelated images as the OP pic. You're supposed to choose an image from the last thread and use that as the cover pic, with DRAW THREAD over it.
>>2503761
hey brian, you mad that you did not get to shill yourself this thread?
some one beat you too it.
there are no fucking rules to the OP you dip shit.
>>2503770
Not Brian, though he's the draw-nothing-but-hands faggot who always makes new threads right.
I'm just pointing out that normally a new thread image is a good one from the last thread, not something completely unrelated. Alt draw thread's been having the same problem, they used a datura pic instead of something from someone on here.
>>2503389
what the fuck is wrong with these I just don't get it. it hurts my soul
>>2503730
>nightmare fuel
Is it good or bad?
>>2503907
The reflected light in the shadows is super strong. And you are not really sticking to the local values too well either. Grab some real life objects like tomatoes or eggs or something else that is round, and do a still life of them.
working on a painting for my mom for mother's day. she loves pigs.
would love feedback to make this better.
:^c
Pls no bully
>>2503921
Aye yo! Why da fool spay painting gotta be black fo?
Nigga das jus raciss...
>>2503617
>>2503926
he was black in my reference photo lol so it just carried over
dont hold back with constructive criticism!!
>>2503911
of course! I forgot the *make a greyscale out of it* thing or something
thank you! It's my first time trying color and value confuses the hell out of me
I don't know what to improve, I'm a total beginner
based off true events
>>2503938
im sort of a beginner too, but the pig head needs a more proportionate neck and the mouth looks like a toaster slot
>>2503921
That's a fucking seal not a pig.
>>2503957
yea i realize that the fundamental drawing behind the pig isnt that strong. might need to start this one from scratch. you got any other tips?
where did I fuck up
I need to do better on the hair and the linework over the legs, but this one felt a lot freer than my other work. If anyone has any more advice to offer, I'd be very appreciative.
Thanks.
>>2504191
i guess you've graduated yourself to the draw thread ¿
Graphite figure line drawing
>>2504195
Nah, I'm going to wait for the beginner thread to refresh before I post in it. I usually post in both threads anyway - more crits that way.
sigh... today's attempts at studying.
Late night doodle.
>>2504185
Her facial features are misaligned.
All your edges are fucked up; your hard edges are undefined, and your soft edges are poorly blended.
The banding effect is basically preventing you from conveying form and mass.
You can try starting off with 100% opacity, and just 3 colors, or values rather: base value, shadow, and light. Then blend them together accordingly.
First time using oil paint. Still a work in progress, but how am I doing so far?
>>2504278
Loomis
self portrait
>>2504185
another from work today. referenced a little bit of bill watterson, seems to suit how i use inks.
>>2503397
Looks almost exactly like Bill Watterson. Well done.
trying something new, dont know what to call the style or anything :v
Meh, did a quick painting.
Not finished yet
Just finished this arm bargue drawing
>>2504958
Perfect
Relaxing draw
>>2504965
das really sweet
>>2504981
You're supposed to photocopy plates dingus
>>2504515
very nice man
went on a bad hiatuss. trying to be good about drawing now...
fml. there was a massive mega link that had a lot more books than the mediafire link posted - its contents are gone. really wanted to get some more stuff from it before it disappeared.
>>2505055
for anyone interested, here was the original link, now obviously empty
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WBAlWbAY!OHlVpL_6vsusinFzniu4_g
>>2503911
they are better now but still don't look right anon.
but I swear I'm trying. could you give me your advice once again? I'd appreciate that
I made this today. Linework done in nankin pen and colors done in SAI. Tweaked the hue slider to create thsi cool little gif
>>2504958
I dont get how people shade like that its so damn uniform do people spend like 5 minutes on a 1cm square space making sure that its perfectly uniform or something?
can anyone crit the colors on this? im having a hard time capturing the colors of light and really getting vibrant lights and dark, subtley colored shadows. not sure where to start. should i just do more value studies?
>>2504958
you should be hatching more. the plates are hatched. this is much much too soft. there's no distinguished shadow and form it's just too mushy and blurry.
Here's a landscape I'm working on. Its my first time using gouache
>>2504843
"collage"
>>2505069
>texture.
just collect a bunch of textures from the net over time and store them in a folder.
all types, like, wood, paper, stained metal.
the more HD the better.
then when utilizing, just copy paste into a new layer and set that layer to either multiply or soft light ect.
then play with the opacity settings for that layer.
>>2504958
That nigga's forearms are nearly the size of his upper arms. Does he only do deadlifts?
I drew this earlier today in pencil but before I realized it, I finished while missing a chunk of the torso so I'm trying to redraw it digitally and I'm having perspective issues involving the arms and I can't quite get the head correct right now.
Some pointers before I continue will be appreciated
>>2505065
That cone shaped(?) roof is really throwing me off...
>>2505349
thanks m8
>>2505348
sounds like i should practice drawing him lol
>>2503929
more from work. im pleased with this
>>2505532
had to resize
>>2504197
I like it but the figure's right hand is out of perspective.
WIP, I guess? Still trying to find a comfortable way for me to paint.
>>2505530
This one is pretty comfy
>>2503389
Do I get the /ic/ seal of approval before turning this in?
>>2505681
What a boring composition....
>>2505681
I am not feeling the perspective. I'd pump up the atmospheric perspective and loosen the edges of the village. It looks like he's standing next to a model at a museum because the edges are so sharp.
>>2505697
Also, the colors read more as a overcast light situation but the the cast shadows clearly indicate that there is strong sunlight. I think you're just being a bit timid with your values and color temperatures resulting in a somewhat flat overall impression.
>>2505652
thank you anon, doing these during work helps me get through long ass work week, usually very little time to practice. So its like tiny escapes mid shift lol
>>2505370
Beginner thread.
>>2505039
Your values are a mess.
>>2505246
Its a bargue plate mate.
>>2505699
You're overcrowding the linework. Every line has the same weight and craves the same attention.
Vary your lineweight more to frame the different parts. Or drop lines all together. Composition is good and otherwise not many other things you should be worrying about yet.
>>2505699
cross eyed.
>>2503389
WIP, do people look down on tracing your own stuff in order to make it digital?
>>2505768
Also not sure how to do the colour digitally, trying to blend out what I have on the paper.
>>2505768
Tracing is no problem at all when it's from paper sketch to digital.
Tracing other people's stuff and calling it your own is seen as a sin.
What do you think of this digital thing
>>2505708
>Its a bargue plate mate.
i know. look at your example though. there's plenty of hatching and form following in that drawing. its not just all blended together.
Posted this a few months ago, now with more progress. I always work on this for a few days, lose motivation, abandon it and take it again weeks later. Knew digital painting would take long time, but not forever.
>>2505681
who the fuck would build a villiage at the bottom of a fucking cliff. Thats like the worst tactical position for defense.
and defense was defiantly on their minds is those walls.
think anon. story drives visuals. not the other way around.
the only story that reads here is "stupid town designer is to blame for mass killing via flaming arrows from above"
>>2505804
No wonder why you lose motivation. Try to do some less ambitious projects first until you have the medium internalised.
Really, though.
>>2503910
If very uncanny wasy your intention, then it's excellent.
>>2505807
i thought thats why the warrior looks so smug, he knows it will be an easy takeover
>>2505969
you guys are making me feel good about my work. what is this sorcery. good motivation to keep at it.
drew this while re-watching evangelion. took a photo of it and did quick ps to plan further colouring once i scan it properly.
>>2505633
dude, I think you're overthinking it.
>>2506007
Pretty great, more like a mashup between Giger and Berserk aesthetically.
I'm trying to get good at using oils plein air, it's been challenging.
>>2506028
This one's better compositionally, gonna try and finish it once it's dry.
Im so pissed, I can't fucking get my shit right. Just time for critiques and moving on
What books/tutorials/videos have helped you most with learning how to render with graphite pencils?
>>2506129
Way too blurry
>>2505808
Yeah, I've always been kind of impatient for results and not only with drawing. Got a graphic tablet not a lot ago and got a bit too excited. I should have started with easiest stuff.
this is called "Self Portrait". what do you think of the concept?
>>2506328
Looks like pretentious crap
>>2506331
it's pretty simple. im a guy btw maybe that makes it easier to understand
>>2506328
Stupid. The title should have no bearing on the art. The fact that you had to give it a title at all means you're a shit artist.
>>2506328
how does that clock work
>>2505774
>>2506328
I dont get it. Also, why did you use expensive oil/ acrylic colours for something that could have easily been drawn with a pencil?
>>2506334
the title is significant because the number the clock's hand is on is metaphorical for where I am in my life. you guys would be the 1 below mine.
it has to do with the difference between men and women, and differences between men who are good and men who are bad and how they aren't that different
>>2506349
its student grade white and black oil paint. not exactly decadent
>>2506129
It needs something on the left side. Or some more details in the foreground. Looks boring now
>>2506354
Still dont get it. Whats the symbold for man, whats the symbol for woman.
If you have to overexplain your picture that much its most likely that your sybolism does not work.
>>2506361
here's my explanation i gave on reddit.
it is a clock. the numbers represent each facet of men and women, and the cyclical nature of life and death. the 3s at the top and bottom are heaven and hell, the left side is life right now, the right side is this life in reverse. the 2s are women, the 1s and 3s on the right and left side are men.
the 2s are meant to represent the constant nature of women, and the difference between the 1s is "good" men and "bad" men ( in a sexual respect. men who want sex and men who don't).
the numbers are symbolic also for the importance of each gender in their respective lives. on the right side men are more important since they are farther from being similar to heaven and hell ( 1 is farther from 3 than 2), and on the left side since it is this life in reverse the men who were 1s before are now 3s and are identical to heaven and hell and 2s are instead the superior number.
In this life men are better; on the other side women are better. we balance each other out. the 1 that is being pointed to represents me and my being a "good" man because I do not want to enjoy life, but I used to be a "bad" man and I would've been pointed at the lower 1.
>>2506365
this is the story I am going to try to tell in all of my abstract/illustration work. i'm going to keep doing fine arts focused subject matter like still lives, nudes, portraits, and landscapes but that clock metaphor I'm going to try to keep in mind when I work purely with color, letters, and numbers, or if I'm going to tell a story.
>>2506365
1: What exactly makes the "bad men" bad? Their hedonism?
2: "In this life men are better; on the other side women are better"
I dont understand this. You have not given a clear explaination why.
Do you intend on writing a paper on how your work is supposed to be understood and pin it on each of your paintings? Because that is way too much context on way too less visuals. assuming your other work is equally "minimalistic".
Late night master study
>>2506380
I have no idea why that flipped...
>>2504238
Right forearm's a little too curvy
>>2506370
>1: What exactly makes the "bad men" bad? Their hedonism?
yes. killing sex drugs excess just the regular stuff. makes you a bad person.
>2: "In this life men are better; on the other side women are better"
if men are 1 in this life and women are 2 and death is 3 men are better because they are farther from death. more alive. if the life opposite this one is this one in reverse men are worse in that one because they would be 3s. in this case think of 3 and 1 as extremes and 3 is the opposite of 1. so if women are 2 in this life and the reverse one it makes sense they are better in the next life because they are 2s and we are 3s and they are farther from death ( more alive).
>Do you intend on writing a paper on how your work is supposed to be understood and pin it on each of your paintings?
sure why not?
>Because that is way too much context on way too less visuals. assuming your other work is equally "minimalistic".
it's not. my other work is landscapes, still lifes, portraits, and nudes.
this is my other painting in this thread.
>>2505243
>>2504238
Dude the right forearm is dope
don't listen to that nigga above.
good linework brother
>>2506396
"men are better because they are farther from death"
Men are further from death than women? How? in what perspective?
>>2506402
Farther spiritually. That's your feminism talking. All natural instincts tell us men are better in this life. They have the potential to make women happy or sad just by how they use their own sexuality. Not farther from death in the literal sense. When we die we die. The good news is we go to heaven that's the death that's next. After heaven things go backwards and men are fucked. It's not going to be so terrible it's basically going to be as bad for us as it is for women in this life. Then when the reverse is done we go to hell, then it starts up again on this life and men are better again
>>2506405
Im the opposite of anything cultural marxist, fag. Im just trying to understand your retarded wording. Learn to convey your ideas and people will understand you, damnit.
>>2506410
>Learn to convey your ideas and people will understand you, damnit.
thats not true. if it was that easy i could just write this stuff down and every guy wouldn't want to masturbate anymore. theres no super secret combination of words that will convince men of this. but if i let other men's ignorance get in the way i'd never do anything.
>>2505248
nice atmosphere
>>2506432
So You believe there is a heaven and a hell, and masturbation is an evil that only men are guilty of?
Just stop these pleas for attention it's not flattering.
Yours Truly
JC
Guys I desperately need criticism.
This is my first post on this board because I didn't even know it even existed. I just bought a Wacom Intuos tablet (about 2 weeks ago) and my parents want me to show them what I have been drawing with it.
I need you guys to tell me if this stuff is even worth showing.
Pic related is my first painting which is a Bob Ross painting that I did as part of this awesome Krita tutorial.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaGRTLvEbVzybijtYZRy4EoGrx6Bq_xOG I had to scale it down 4MB.
>>2506452
The second thing is just this old man which started as a sketch from a reference image on one of those pose/reference image websites. I just "painted" it quickly to give it more of black and white feel and because I can't really do hair + shadows with just a pencil.
>>2503922
Very nice
Tell me something
Took a crack at the OP from the beginner thread
>>2506618
Her expression is quite dull and there are issues with proportions (huge head).
>>2506677
>>2506678
when the chair looks better than your figure
>>2506380
Could you post your ref?
>>2506733
stand up right now.
literally.
stand up behind your computer and look down.
look at your feet.
i bet they are pointing forwards. not at repelling angles like in your picture.
relaxed natural standing position is normally both feet pointing more or less to the front.
it is actually an effort to point your feet in directions that you have illustrated.
apart from that, nice stick sales man.
>>2506741
ja feel, wasn't even thinking about the feet
thanks for the advice.
Did a study and realized I can't do hair.
how do you guys add highlights to the lips? can't find one that works properly, all of them look dull.
>>2506763
also here's a manatee blowing pink guy, please don't ban me.
>>2504224
holy shit I kinda like your style. the second picture on the top is pretty good.
>>2506380
Holy fuck this is awesome
>>2506677
>>2506678
>>2506679
Proportions are fine, while the head is a maybe a little small sometimes it's something that's commonly done in the pursuit of idealisation, rather than too big which just looks cartoonish.
Lines are kinda rough, don't say in two or three lines what you could with just one.
Too much fixation on detail, crosshatching is often a waste of time, and smudging just makes the body look cloudy and one dimensional, even if the model is very gradated in real life it's better to interpret that and simplify for form's sake.
Faces are just kind of basic looking and let it down. Something I struggle with myself.
Want to crit my life drawings as a quid pro quo m8?
>>2506830
And this, both were done in about 20 min.
>>2506759
Hair looks better than her face desu.
>>2506830
*two dimensional, eh, you know what I meant.
>>2506864
Cool, thanks!
>>2506224
"Drawing Realistic Textures in Pencil"
https://my.mixtape.moe/twruhk.pdf
>>2506401
U wot m8
hand study (in progress)
>>2505350
nice
>>2503719
work on the shadows beneath its feet
>>2506354
>>2506365
>>2506396
>>2506405
>>2506432
>>2506328
Reminds me of the pic floating around where some guy dropped a glove in an art gallery and people tip toeing around it because the weren't sure if it was art or not...
>>2506923
Thanks!
>>2506405
Still thinking in "groups" and "boxes of understanding".
Level up already Brian.
lineart practice
>>2507228
I revised it since yesterday. I think I found a combination that makes more sense. It's easier with 5 numbers instead of 3. The order going clockwise from the top would be 43210321 with the hand pointing at 1 before the 4 to represent me
>>2505833
It should be a little creepy.
>>2506958
Yeah, thanks, but it's done already.
Sakimichan thread got deleted, but I'm trying it anyway.
>>2506007
holy fuck blog ?
I've been worried about the construction of the face and dress, any thoughts?
did two things today. drew this girl at the coffee shop.
>>2507387
and i drew this comic strip. which was basically an excuse for me to give a bear a beehive haircut
>>2507304
eyes too far apart, otherwise fine
how is it?
the legs are kinda weird/fat?
and the arm with the goo shit is fucked up i think
>>2503773
The op pic is from someone on here, if your this new you should really just stay in the beginner thread or go upvote some comments
>>2507245
yo this is fuckin rad senpai keep it up
working on this hydreigon painting.
i hate painting.
>>2506741
>critiques feet pointing outwards
>posts picture with feet pointing outwards
Anything look off?
>>2506770
haha thanks but i still have a long way to go to be good. it's encouraging tho!
Can't change much in this picture since it's made by pen. But i would appreciate any advice.
i don't think i'm very good at environments and have been making an effort to improve on them lately. is this indicative of any problems so far?
>>2507519
try to have hatching follow form and perspective. the walls are a mess of hatching. i get that's a "style" to do it wrong but it looks bad. pic related is a segment of the wall. you wouldn't be able to tell it was a wall without the rest of the image and even then it's only because there's an outline.
i can understand getting hatching wrong, like accidentally hatching something incorrectly, but this is just you getting everything wrong on purpose in the name of style. don't do this. you'll never learn how to properly hatch and shade.
>>2507469
Obviously it's by Jonathan but it wasn't posted in the last thread. If you're this new maybe you should just stay in the beginner thread or go reblog some art that's better than yours
Thoughts so far?
>>2507288
making things shiny sure is difficult
>>2507564
wtf is that vagina?
>>2507501
Not enough focus on her delicious thighs
>>2506830
Meh difference of artistic opinion I suppose. Aside from that last pne I think all thpse drawings were successful in there own way. But thanks for the thoughtful critique though.
>>2507604
>>2507606
>>2507607
>>2507387
do people catch you drawing them? or do you ask for permission first
also your drawings are nice
>>2507259
omg
im tired and losing my drive to finish this and study for my finals
First thing I've done in a looooong time. No reference yet. I know the chick is all fucked as well as his hands/ forearms. Trying to get my girlfriend to pose naked.
>>2507630
i ask permission first. and then i try drawing them as they move around and they see me erasing constantly and they ask "do you want me to stay still" and i say "yup" and then they stay still.
>>2506354
You're a faggot and your clock is shit. It's fucking shit.
>>2507567
Huh? No, you just need to add highlights. The smaller they are the more glossy the object seems.
And don't forget to cover her in unexplainable rimlights to get the look right
>>2507661
>IT'S GOOFY TIME
>NO, DAD, NO
literally what I thought it was from the thumbnail
>>2507661
>>2507754
lol
Update: got my lady to pose.
>>2504958
fucking kill me
>>2506328
Nice picture, but I fixed it up.
>>2507844
oh fuck you, anon
>>2507498
they are naturally angled.
have a look, i even left the parallel ground marking.
feet do have a natural tenancy to point a little far outwards.
just not as extreme as what i was commenting on.
Critique welcome.
>>2507927
Edges bruh edges!
>>2507927
8/10 would vote for
>>2503389
I'm usually in the beginner thread, but I'm so impressed with myself I'm gonna go ahead and post this here.
>>2507976
are you bear guy?
>>2507984
nah, how so?
>>2507976
They're pretty good anon. Now go back to the beginner thread.
>>2507519
Nice hatching m8, the rim lighting on the paneling is subtle.
>>2508003
Looks pretty good overall. I think you can simplify some things more though, like you have a lot of small value shifts giving a faint patchy appearance. You can probably reduce the number of values in each section and it would read a lot cleaner and nicer. I also think you are overdoing the soft brush in places and it is is giving an unfinished appearance. If you ever want to make something look highly finished you need to treat your edges with more subtlety.
Careful of drawing errors too--the ear is misplaced by quite a lot, the neck is super thick and traps very large, the eyebrows are placed strangely, her skull is massive up top etc.
too soft I know, but Need more help if anyone can.
I know I goofed on the eyes but what do you think? I like doing these and it's not too time consuming. I just used two different type of pencils.
hands study.
>>2508002
thanks and okay.
Human photocopier here
original copy
>>2508263
Your values are all too light. Also, I suggest slowing down and observing more carefully. Right now you got only a superficial copy of things and it's quite inaccurate.
>>2508263
Dont flatter yourself
hobby doodler here who might go to art school someday
i started 3 years ago but just recently started with my first anatomy studies
WIP I guess
im also kinda intimidated by the quality some people post here even many artist say you shoudlnt compare yourself too much..
>>2508388
Dont compare yourself to other people if it will stop you from producing work. Of course you need to compare yourself to other artists, just make sure that you are also learning from them. Its mainly something people say so they dont get their feefees hurt
Am i doing the colors right?
>>2506007
Dude I love this. Way to take an already existing art style and make it your own. Would totally rewatch evangelion done in this style.
>>2506365
Easy boy
Master copy wip
>>2508471
right side part of hip. going into leg. head too big/fat
>>2508476
go draw
>>2508471
Are you in a school or doing this on your own? If you are doing this of your own accord I recommend changing your approach. That overly mechanical flat 2-d observation is not a great method and was certainly not used by the people you are doing master copies of. If you are in a school I suppose you have no choice in the matter, but I would take some good thought on whether or not their methods will actually lead to the goals you want since they are hyper narrow methods that have little application.
Anyways, here's the original image if you aren't aware of it, maybe you can see a bit more into his process: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Fortuny%2C_Nu_mascul%C3%AD._Lluitador_%28317_D%29.jpg
