What motivates you anon? My problem is that I have too many ideas and all the time in the world, but I'm depressed as fuck.
Just look at good artists to tell yourself "fuck it's no time to procastinate, I want to do something as good as this".
Works for me.
>>2501043
this, my phone background is art by one of my favourites just to remind myself everytime I check that phone that I'm not there yet
inb4 shitton of posts with "2005 - 2010" showing decline in skill
>>2501066
>>2501066
our little treasure.
>>2501066 heeeeeeeeyyyyyy is that duterte?
Posted this many months ago but I paint roughly every 2 months to keep or increase my skill.
I don't think he posts here anymore. But something happened in the summer that set a fire under his ass
Just want to be a traditional artist, but I don't see the point anymore.
>>2501314
>Those Summer 2015 gains
FUARK!
It's okay for 6 months of drawing?
28 Oct
>>2501336
There is second
25 Apr
>>2501341
>>2501336
DAUN EBANIY UCHI ENGLISH
>>2501314
did fucking god descend from the heavens and grant him the ability to draw in 2015?
>>2501336
У Maльты шoль yчилcя?
russian cyber attack
>>2501314
>from shitty anime to cape shit
i guess super heroes are more execution intensive when it comes to drawing since they usually have more muscle definition and shit
>>2501358
Дыa))))
>>2501314
dammit did he spent 20/24 hours a day in summer drawing
>>2501319
cant wait to see ur stuff another 3 years
>>2501314
>tfw you are only 5 years away from getting good at any time
i made a painting one *butt sounds*
>>2501447
Do more still lifes!
>>2501447
I think the way you used colour and subject matter got very interesting from 2013-15 and then got boring again this year.
I know I'm still ass, but those 6 months were probably the biggest period of improvement in my life
>>2501147
yes aon
>>2501503
0 improvement
>>2501525
Completely none
>>2501503
Is this something you need skill to do?
after 5 months on a cinteek, i improved so much :')
>>2501542
I'm honestly not sure. I just kept drawing and looking at tutorials. I've improved a bit since then, but still have a lot to learn. The human form is fucking with me like you wouldn't believe, especially when it comes to bending. DrawABox seems cool, but I haven't used it yet. Practice makes perfect, and lack of it leads to stagnation and rusting. Draw from references as well as imagination. I'm still a beginner, so take my advice with a grain of salt.
>>2501553
Post some humans
>>2501558
Posting from phone because I can't be assed to scan it
Not that it's good, but it's there.
(Yes, I know the face is a mess, that part's a doodle)
>>2501573
mobileposing is hell. Editing it so it's reasonably tilted and sized.
>>2501573
Have you read the sticky?
>>2501583
A little bit, but I get sidetracked by life and also draw shitty doodles instead of working on stuff. I tried a loomis drawing but it looked a bit weird, but I guess that's just what you get when it's your first try with that sort of thing.
Have yet to do any actual gesture / life drawings yet, except for like 2 or 3 shitty ones.
>>2501591
You ain't gonna get better at drawing good if you keep getting better at drawing like shit.
>>2501602
Is drawabox any good or is it a meme? It would be nice to have a book or website or something which I could just stick to, instead of the blind fumbling of today.
>>2501608
Drawabox is good. The best thing is to reserve one half an hour a day at the exact time each day and have a goal so you know what to do. Do it at least for one week and if it works, add another week. Don't draw a huge amount one day and do nothing the rest of the week.
>>2501622
Alright, thank you for the advice. Tomorrow I begin my work. Thank you for helping me get good.
(Just realized that I have a mandatory art class just after the only free period in my day, so the whole "don't draw anything else" shtick might be ruined. Should I wait 'till my schedule loosens up, or begin now?)
>>2501629
The answer is always now. I don't say draw anything else on a day, but make sure to spread it around to keep a habit.
>>2501639
Aight. Thank you. Nice to get some good advice, especially considering most of /ic/. I'll do my best to improve, and may get good enough to post here in a couple months. Thank you for all the help.
>>2501503
I just want you to know that you won't get better at drawing by doing things that are fun for you, you have to actually grind out the shit that you find difficult and boring. I hate telling you this, but you've actually made almost 0 progress in that picture.
>>2501503
i feel like i've been regressing recently with these attempts at speed painting.
>>2502098
Damn got a page? I hope to aspire like this someday
>>2502098
Maybe do a few full pieces to really stretch your muscles. Either way I still really enjoy your work.
>>2502098
>got a nice pencil
>bought copics
>tried digital
>bought an apple pencil
anon using different materials won't make you a better artist. you should stop buying expensive materials like copics when it's apparent you aren't up to snuff on color theory and light&shadow
>>2501178
youre not going to get any better if you only do it every 2 months
>>2502121
Not that anon but it's a good change of pace year by year. I'm still rocking with pencils and paper, maybe get a chink tablet when I git gud at anatomy
>>2500939
Ganbare!
>>2501839
>chris only made himself less fat
>>2502101
Blog is here >>2481132
>>2502105
Thanks, I've been experimenting with different processes to figure out how to bring something to completion.
>>2502121
>you should stop buying expensive materials
what I do with my money is my business.
>different materials won't make you a better artist
Learning new tools it's part of why I enjoy drawing. I followed my own logical progression in tool changes.
For traditional:
>Wanted to work on line confidence
Bought some pens
>Wanted to study values
got gray scale markers
>Wanted to practice / learn colors
bought colored markers
>>Hit a dead end because I couldn't iterate fast enough traditionally with colors
For digital:
>Wanted to experiment with colors
Got a scanner
>Wanted to color without a mouse
Inherited an intuous
>>Hated hand eye decoupling and hated sitting at the computer
got apple pencil
>>2502164
Noice
ganbare nile!
Keep it up I'm proud of you
i just wanna paint nice pictures
>>2502098
>regressing with speedpainting
speedpainting is the most appliable jobskill, but you know its more for painterly people or people capable of using a lot of tools quickly (look at longyis works), as you base most of your pics on drawings, paint by itself is understandably gonna be harder for you.
>>2502176
cool improvement, dont stop now senpai!
link to your tumblr/deviantart?
>>2502234
nakedoats.tumblr
>>2502283
>nakedoats.tumblr
i really like your traditional work, you obviously have spaces to improve, technically, but other than that your ideas are nice.
>>2502228
>as you base most of your pics on drawings, paint by itself is understandably gonna be harder for you.
This makes me want to learn it even more - bye bye traditional
>>2502098
I think you're too occupied with making something that looks cool, try other subject matter and styles. Sci-fi and fantasy gets boring after the 6000th anime space marine.
>>2502121
That's retarded, experimentation is the best way to get better.
>>2502178
So wait you got a apple pencil? How is it? I've been seeing alot of threads on people arguing over it but no clear examples of the difference. Would you recommend it over an expensive ass $800 cintiq 13HDD?
>>2502960
If those are referenced; garbage.
Put more time into it. Learn to experiment.
>>2501433
>No matter how hard you try your drawings will never be good until you draw for years
>>2503051
thank you, i'll work harder.
>>2502891
>other subject matter
I was thinking of drawing food and / or dinosaurs / animals. I've been in a bit of a slump recently, and can't figure out why.
>>2502909
I've never touch a cintiq. The pencil matched my work flow well since I am a heavy iPad user. It's certainly not for everyone. I was avoiding digital because the intuous was too uncomfortable. The iPad is helping me get more mileage.
Originally i just wanted to draw a mouth out of boredom but i kinda kept going and I ran out of space. Completely from imagination, which I usually don't do. What do you think?
>>2503156
fuck wrong thread. Im going to sleep
>>2501066
I still have an earlier version of one of those drawings saved.
>>2503196
that drawing was my first thread ever and first day here on /ic/
>posting my art here was full of good and bad moments. well everyone here is always ready to put your art into the ground..
>FRESH MEME everyday
>this is why im here everyday .. being part of this community or my second family was the bomb!!
>I WILL NEVER LEAVE THIS PLACE !!!
>>2503304
>community or my second family
community or my second family
>>2503307
this is how i feel going here
>>2503310
Second family? Are you that desperate?
>>2503311
yes i am m8.
and this is why i draw
>>2502165
and stopped going drugs too
>>2503304
>/ic/
>second family
Were you abused as a kid?
>>2503307
you cant draw and all you do is namefag and shitpost.
can you fucking go away? No "witty" response required, just leave.
>>2503358
no..
>>2503307
Would you mind being funny?
>>2501066
how the fuck were you at that level when you just started drawing? I can barley do Loomis's god damn cartoon faces
>>2504221
>first i just tern off the internet .
>second practice anatomy for 4 hours
>every day
>>2502228
Bottom pic of bird please.
>>2501014
Feels
>>2502098
I like it
>>2504393
I never give up tho. Everyday I draw, paint, sketch. It's like, I know nothing is owed or guaranteed to me, but it's the only thing that keeps me going. I have nothing left, but if I create, I feel like I'm alive and I mean something, because I create. I don't like the world I live in, but I create my own world and though I wrestle with myself constantly, whatever little pleasure I get from creating something, feels like a huge victory to me.
Memes are our way to differentiate ourselves as a community. LAS is really interesting from a sociology standpoint.
A thick veil of ironic shitposting and forced memes keeps the threads alive and polemic, increasing LAS popularity and interest.
>>2504221
>>2504316
Some people draw all their life then when they decide to take art seriously they say that day is their day 0.
>I've been drawing for 10 years but only seriously for the last 2
They say it because they think it sounds better or maybe they really believe that any time spent before Loomis doesn't count
>>2504842
KEK
>>2504842
10/10
>>2504842
fucking kek
>>2504595
Well i force myself to draw but always come up a little inspiration "ANIME"...
>>2504933
>>2504938
needs more loomis
>>2504842
ok
>>2504943
YES ANON!!!
>>2504944
wait. you seriously think youre better than me dont you. holy shit lol.
>>2504967
His work is at least somewhat dynamic. Yours has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
>>2504970
ill just agree to humor you, im still better though. and even if he was even near my level he should really reconsider shit talking.
Worst part is this is referenced work and it still looks worse than my imagination work.
>>2504991
Imagine if you spent a tenth of the time you spend shitposting actually drawing, Nosebro, you might actually be competent by now.
>>2504991
best part is, i'm not even the one who shitposted you, i just wanted some feedback on my sketchbook
That feel when you're not practising often enough to progress anymore.
I need to start getting my shit together and putting more hours in. I also need to just make a new progress sheet instead of haphazardly editing my old one.
>>2504991
Keep that delusion going. Clearly, it's worked great so far.
>tfw Alzheimers runs in your family
>>2505059
I got better at lines which I thought would be impossible for a while because I'm a bit stubborn.
Just need to learn how to draw and copy shit legitimately now
>>2501503
>>2505073
>gained artistic ability but stopped drawing dicks
Not a good trade off desu
>>2503382
A-Are you sure?
Joking aside, it's nice that you feel so at home here.
>>2505358
post work
>>2505418
pre work
>>2505294
>that bulge
>>2505034
I had a good chuckle at the duck explosion. You made some great progress, anon.
>>2501314
Holy shit
>>2500939
I'll go and dig out one of my old notebooks to compare it to a new one, bumping thread til i get back
From never drawing before on the left to now I guess
>>2505418
no, you are still shit.
>>2505614
This is from my first "drawing book" from a few years ago.
>>2505621
This is something I painted yesterday.
I guess theres not that much progress kek
>>2504316
this is very helpful to me.
>>2501066
Fucking Du30 on the corner kek
Nice progress buddy
>>2505034
You need to work on your textures
>>2502098
Hi tableguy
>>2505638
I agree. If you have any tips I'm happy to hear them. I think a big problem with a lot of my stuff right now is it's kind of muddy and not much of it really pops, I know some of that is just bad edgework but maybe shitty textures is also a factor.
>>2505735
Learning textures is easier in traditional so try that. Also learn so perspective mate.
>>2505621
>those sbahj mouths
nice
>>2504991
>referenced work
holy shit
why don't you actually try to follow your own advice?
>>2505649
Haha fuck off you silly cunt
>>2506011
when the furfag thinks hes good. Im glad you draw a buffalo cat.
i was posting imagination work, i was referring to the fact that he posted reffed work, might as well be traced work.
>>2506166
...says the person who can't even draw a comprehensible figure from imagination.
>>2506166
>ref works can't be creative or use the imagination
>>2505073
Kill yourself.
>>2505073
Decent progress a LOt cleaner On the lines definitely, what's the tiMe frame on thIs? Also the right side are sill pencilS right? do you ever ink?
>>2506166
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>2506337
whatever helps you mentality dodge the response.
>>2506359
You are wrong if you think that pure imaginative works exist ! Even when you do something on the top of your head you use mental imagery of previous reference you saw in your life, using direct reference can help you understand the world you're trying to draw so that you can apply that knowledge to draw from imagination. And before you say traced work isn't art, just google "pop art" ,cheers.
>>2506368
pop art isn't art.
>>2506374
Not a huge jump considering these are nearly two years apart, but I stopped drawing about a month after I drew the first image and only started drawing again early march 2016.
So this is like 2 months of progress, and I'm sticking to that excuse.
>>2506368
it doesnt matter whether or not you think its art, we're stroking cocks over skill. If you want to call me trash you have to be more skilled than me. Which you aren't.
Never had a lesson. Drawn from reference with a a standard black BIC pen about a year ago when I was still in school. Opinions?
>>2506628
bad.
>>2506628
veri cute anon
>>2506409
>If you want to call me trash you have to be more skilled than me
Thats not how it works when you're actually shit.
>>2506634
HEY FUCK YOU WHEN I SAID I WANT OPINIONS I MEANT PRAISE ME
>>2505636
thanks m8
Left: 3 months ago.
Right: Now
>>2501314
Holy shit, you gave me hope
another good thread shitted up by nosebro.
we should just ban him already.
>>2506729
you know, that Loomis meme?
it's not a meme
>>2506776
Lol, i actually never looked into Loomis. Reading is too much for me, mang.
>>2506392
Its still good progress the values are a little shallow but honestly its a female face so they are meant to be
>>2501461
What, spamming complimentary colors?
Still experimenting with different styles.
>>2506871
A lot of progress but, there's one thing I can see your doing which is a little strange, if you're working from greyscale then adding color try to vary your color layer more, cool in the shadow warm on the highlights and pink on blood flow, your 2014 and 2015 stuff struggles with this. But overall good just an observation
>>2506871
I see you getting into other subject matter which is good because the portraits were starting to get boring. Consider experimenting more with texture.
>>2506359
Post work.
>>2507795
ok now you have to be kidding.
>>2507820
Post good work
Left side Sept-Dec 2015, right side Jan 2016- present. I've been drawing and 'learning' art for quite a few years before September of last year but kept regressing to a 'comfortable' zone and never improved. I went through Loomis, Vippu, and a million youtube 'tutorials' for years and the problem was that I was too arrogant to realize that I DIDNT understand anything I read. I would simply read something, tell myself, "yeah I get it" and then move on without actually practicing or fully comprehending what I had just read.
Everything changed when "Drawing on the Right side of the Brain" came upon me. I sat down and did the exercises out of boredom and thats when lightning struck me hard. For once in my life, I tried to fully comprehend what it was trying to teach me. I went at it like a man coming across an oasis in a desert. I had to take a long hard look at myself and reconcile with the fact that I simply did not know how to draw and more importantly, I didn't know how to see. People prefer 'Keys to Drawing' but I'm biased toward DRSoB because thats what jumped started me. I spent a whole month dedicated to that book doing every exercise until I could copy exactly what I could see.
My advice is the same as everyone else. Practice is suppose to be really really fucking hard, really tedious and at times, crazy boring to do, but you HAVE to do them. Great artists STILL do their studies. You need to concentrate and force yourself to make your current drawings better than the ones before. Instead of motivation, lifehack a feedback loop.
(I want to draw something awesome, but I don't know how to draw this pose/render this) -> (Realize that I need to know how to do this pose/render if I want to be a better artist)->(Study, look at reference and practice drawing that reference, this is hard and boring) -> (Get better at my studies and get excited because now I know I've gotten better) -> (Reward myself by drawing that awesome idea I had)
my understanding of girls throughout
2011
2013/4???
2015
2016
I guess I should spend more time actually practicing and start using references
>>2507963
Your cartoon character's ideas are too complicated for western animation stick with simple shapes for bodies and tube arms
>>2506865
At least something was going on with it.
>>2507963
looks like a decent comic strip
>>2507963
You always post this but you really dont seem to have improved much beyond your first loomis studies and your cartoons are seriously regressive
>>2502176
You really like that orange and blue, huh?
>>2505622
I like it. Get yourself a scanner please.
>>2505622
fuck this looks just like an oc that my sister drew like 3 years back
excuse the shitty screencap I didn't know how to use sai (it was a trial version so i couldn't save it or some shit)
>>2506628
you need to focus on closing your eyes and seizing it
>>2509082
if your screen is that small put your task bar in small icons. Also, press shift to remove the new canvas tab on Sai
>>2504595
what's loomis?
>>2509113
>fetishist fanart
kys senpai
>>2507925
underrated
>>2508248
its the best color combo imo.
>>2509187
>zeman
Fellow czech drawfriend maybe?
I've only been drawing for about two months now, I honestly don't expect to get aby better than just cartoon like doodles.
>>2509425
Well you have to be willing to move beyojd cqrtoon doodles and apply yourself (you have not been applying yourself)
>>2509425
Well goof thing no ones going to kill you if you don't make progress in a certain time limit. If you wanna take it easy, just keep trying new things every now and then and have fun, but don't settle for yourself. Always at least try, actually try to outdo yourself.
>>2501314
oh hey, thx for posting this, I don't post that often, actually, I just have no time to draw anymore but i'll be back soon, I do keep lurking though.
and yeah, in the summer period something just clicked in my brain, methods and my imagination just started to go off, I had so much fun drawing day after day.
>>2510069
your picture inspired me the most out of this whole thread. I am about to draw tonight after no for for months because of it. Keep going dude!
Anyone have pics of people who literally started from the bottom (have not drawn since grade school)?
>>2501582
That erased dong tho
>>2510083
thank you man, that is a very rewarding feeling to hear people say they are somewhat inspired by my progress and decided to pick drawing again because I was there myself too, I had my months without drawing and I also got inspired by other artists to pick it back up.
Keep working at it man, an advice I would give you to not get back to months of not drawing again is to constantly look at other artist's works, ones that you truly find inspirational and what you would like to become. It will keep your motivation constant.
>>2502960
watch other people draw portraits and see the way they blend and create strokes on the paper. You are making progress but through lots of practice and studies will you only get really good at it. I would also recommend doing art from still lives or even self portraits to further improve.
> pic related, look at his shading technique
>>2510278
source?
>>2510152
>not drawn since grade school
In grade school, I thought I would grow up to be an artist. I even told my older sister she would never be a better artist than me. Then I stopped drawing for almost 20 years to do engineering stuff. Sister went to RISD proved me wrong.
Got bored with work 3yrs ago, and picked up drawing as a hobby >>2502098. Life goal is to draw better than sister.
>>2510348
hi there brother-in-law
>>2510354
I feel so sorry for you - she's a bitch
Miles Johnston
>>2510289
Miles Johnston, fucked up like the idiot I am. Here's a whole progress dump by him http://miles-johnston.deviantart.com/art/Progress-Archive-384868649
>>2509109
but if I close my eyes then I won't be able to see what I'm drawing
>>2502098
>Studying Hirame
10/10
>>2509113
buff are nice I like abs buff thank
I could have done so much better. I will just try harder this year.
>>2509113
You should do one with only the giant lolis.
>>2511075
I actually kinda like how jerky and weird your early art was.
>>2511075
>Beginning of 2016
>Beginning of 2016
>>2511872
Weird, I'm not sure, but my sketches still tend to be jerky: http://imgur.com/a/xrnZI
>>2502176
can I be your art gf? its mostly because I want a cat
i really dont feel ive improved much
>>2511075
That's pretty good for a year of progress actually. Keep it up anon!
>>2509425
B^U
>>2512608
That is because you haven't improved.
>>2509113
b-blog?
>>2512608
Sincere question; are you even trying? How often do you draw? Is there anyone you study?
>>2513033
I went on and off from about last August to December, and thats about when it started getting serious. In between school and work I started drawing everyday from about February or March of this year. This picture was from like a year and a half ago
dont have that many pics saved on my computer, but here it is
I've definitely improved color-wise; other than that I think I've just gotten faster.
I do wonder if you can really call this improvement.
>>2515139
Where's the colour senpai?
>>2515139
The good news: there's improvement.
The bad news: it's about a year's worth over 5 years.
>>2515148
I grew up with manga, that is why I got used to black/white/grey and don't think colors are that essential to draw a good picture.
>>2515152
>The bad news: it's about a year's worth over 5 years.
well, given that I'm not trying to be a pro or anything, (maybe a webcomic at best) I'm ok with that. I'm glad I found /ic/ though, this is one of the most useful/ressourceful boards on 4chan.
>>2513718
6 years for that, disgusting.
>>2503320
only because he is dead tho
I improved very slowly 1/2
>>2515160
thanks friend
>>2516599
2/2
2016 isn't on there
Yeah very slow I guess.
>>2513718
2010 on the right, was that a trace? fwiw its my fav of the bunch
>>2509113
Oh you drew thay cute yggdrasil, nice job
>>2516610
No, that wasn't a trace. And thanks, that's probably my favorite too. Six years ago :[
>>2516616
you seem to be all over the place stylistically. maybe it'd be a good idea to focus on one thing and really own it?
>>2516623
Well, that's my one excuse. I'm an animator and I do everything myself, from writing to voice acting to animating to music, and I've never liked the idea of having a single style. I think I'm still happier being a jack-of-all-trades, even if I'm very slow to improve at all of them.
>>2512998
I don't have a blog, but I have pixiv
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=304834
>>2516607
>Yeah very slow I guess.
Yup, only things that got better was your rendering and colors, and even those are still bad.
>>2516722
Nah don't think they're bad
>>2516728
>Nah don't think they're bad
There is your problem. You really need to acknowledge how shit you are if you ever want to improve.
>>2517028
Not the same anon but saying it's bad or shit ain't exactly constructive criticism
>tfw the 'start' posts are better than what you've made
>>2517035
Are you seriously saying you can't see the problems? Oh lord.
>>2511930
>i have 2 cats
>>2517212
Seems you're too stupid to give actual helpful criticism
I dont care how cheesy or stupid dome of you people might think >>2504448 sounds...but it got to me deep, man
>>2517060
Don't give up, anon! You don't know how much earlier they ACTUALLY started, and you still have your whole life to catch up.
I started making one last week or so. Was planning to post late 2016 because I want to re-render stuff later on but why the hell not?
>>2510222
Not him, but I remember you posting this progress stuff and explained how you did it. Your progress and advice has helped me push myself to work harder. I even got a Frederick Delavier book to study along with the typical loomis and bridgman.
>>2506871
>uus2
finland?
luv the work!
>>2517257
If you had said no nicely, I could have told why the colors are bad, I could have told why the anatomy is completely fucked, I could have told why the little shading he has is bad but you started insulting me. So please kindly fuck off.
Also whoever did that, get out of your comfort zone. It will help you greatly.
this is six months of progess
www.artstation.com/artwork/JbVxA
