Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make your mom proud.
AVOID asking unrelated questions, There is a question thread for that.
Visit the usual "Art book Thread" to find your desired books.
Do not forget to PLEASE RESIZE and crop your images before uploading them. 1kpx is fine.
Before asking "what should I read/view/study/learn," Read the f*cking sticky, it's there for a reason: >>1579290
There's a new sticky in town! You can see it at https://www.reddit.com/comments/46sb9k/
>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.
TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.
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>>2447305
>>2447306
>>2447308
>>2447309
>>2447310
fuck, every time I post the thread dies before I get a reply. How do I face?
>>2447309
Is there more like this? Showing the outline of the muscles like this?
What are some things I can do to learn value?
>>2447321
Loõōoòöôómis
Is nudity allowed in this thread??
Can I move on to Drawthread yet?
>>2447396
Of course
>>2447398
k, thx for info
anybody can give me suggestions how to improve?? those images just look so flat and lifeless.. what am I doing wrong??
>>2447391
amazing critique
>>2447411
Well for one thing you've changed the pose to be straighter which makes your drawing seem more stiff than the original. (Look at how her shoulders are on different levels in the ref and the head is slightly tilted to the side)
It usually is better to try and slightly exaggerate poses, err on the side of exaggeration rather than caution, even if it's wrong the results will look more interesting.
Your values also lack range which would contribute to the flatness.
>>2447411
Measuring is wrong
Values are wrong
The planes are not properly shown, you are supposed to exaggerate not detract detail
I'd say train to draw planes out of reference, in greyscale, this way you'll improve in everything I listed
Did I foreshorten properly?
>>2447451
Forgot to resize
Where is the art book thread, nigger?
>>2447496
Are you questioning my race?
Leyendecker Study. Howd I do?
So ofc I started with fun with pencil, should I be studying this until I can draw good/3D looking faces like his, or is the take away just supposed to be construction?
>sit down to draw
>feel lethargic, mind is foggy
>work suffers
>get frustrated
>open 4chin tab
Everyday
>>2447541
>turn off router
>scribble on paper
motivation and artist's block are memes, anon. you just have to force yourself
unanswered noob question
>>2446693
>>2447594
Hard to say. Is it very useful? Unless youre in dire need of a ref for a very awkward position, id say study from the plethora of already existing nude refs online.
Just to add, life drawing helps your modelling.
i've been getting lazy im trying to bounce back
>>2447555
Every time I draw I have /ic up and music on youtube. Every single time.
try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuJqUvBj4rE
>>2447687
You're not a beginner.
>>2447751
he is, and so are you.
>>2447751
I hate it when the untouchables try to shoo out people who are marginally above them
Like nosebro. That guy tells everyone to get out of the beg thread.
>>2447627
Good point. Thanks, Anon.
>trying to learn
>open loomis
>cant even draw cartoon faces
>demotivated
>go back to drawing dumb 3d shapes
is practicing perspective lines without a ruler pretty much self-sabotage?
>>2447883
How good are you at just copying lines? If you're bad at it, work through the first few dodson chapters and do a shitton of bargue plates first.
Before you learn where to make which marks, you first need to learn how to make marks.
Drawing geometric objects from imagination is shit practice if you lack technique; You're just making a random mark on the page and then shoehorn more marks in to make sense of the first one. You're not training yourself to make the exact mark you intend to make. You have nothing to compare the finished drawing to.
And no, this has nothing to do with symbol drawing. It's just coordination and focus. It's a skill you have to practice.
>>2447922
Not that guy, I didn't know about bargue plates and had the problem you describe.
Thanks a ton.
>>2447919
would like to know as well since i have a habit of almost never using rulers for perspective
>>2447919
I guess it depends on how messed up your lines are without the ruler but for practice i suggest you avoid using the ruler and try to improve your control over your lines. But don't worry, the hard part with perspective isn't making straight lines, it's mostly about knowing the right angles.
>>2447687
Starting to look pretty good. The outline is too thick, it kills your work with value. Try to keep your thickest lines for the dark parts, usually it's skin folds.
ive been drawing/painting for a little over a year and half pretty much everyday. i really want to take a break for a week. would this be beneficial? am i fucking pussy bitch? if i do ill still do stuff like the line warmups and maybe drawing a few figures
>>2448110
confirmed spark to be lost
>>2448115
nah ive never 'given up' anything. i just want to know if theres any benefit to taking breaks
With Bargue plates, do I just copy them on my own sheet of paper?
What is it supposed to accomplish? I feel like I'm not seeing the bigger picture.
>>2448117
There is actualy, I found that taking breaks gave me a very different perspective about my work when I would look back at it.
>>2448118
It's about learning to control your values and to draw what you see without having to make any artistic choices. But personnally I think you could do the same with a still life and it's a lot more fun.
>>2448119
thats what i was thinking like your brain gets some time to sort things out and such
>>2448120
The advantage of bargue plates is that they're very (well) structured. They go from extremely simple with a lot of guiding lines to just a photorealistic copy of a cast. They're like the first levels in a good videogame, gradually stacking a new set of challenges on top of the previous one for the user to overcome. They're not just a set of references, they're a coherent course.
The worse you are, the better bargue plates are compared to a random still life.
>>2448118
Pirate (or buy) the bargue drawing course. Comes with an instructional pdf and video demonstrations and shit. They're designed to be used in class, by a teacher. But yes, you basically just copy them.
is 'copy with understand mechanism' helps drawing with imagine in future?
Well, i'm pretending to color this with mouse, and at this poin i don't know how lighting works in the glove, i can't make it look like a glove it looks flat and strange, some help i can't figure how to do it.
>>2448187
why censor it? it's stupid
first where are your light sources? second I assume his glove is round and soft so go from there
>>2448204
i have to point that i don't know anything drawing
>>2447555
>>2447541
It could be depression just on milder scale. Depression causes lethargie and brain fogg since your brain is in a zone where he just does not want to bother.
If it's depression, just go see a therapist. Since i've been seeing one it took a few session to get to what it was that was blocking me, and now i'm better and the occasional day were i don't is the exception now.
How am I looking?
>>2448239
Wops, that was fucking huge.
I'm just bored and draw this like fuking autist it was fun
>>2447321
I've done something similar here: head down, looking up.
I went for a different face shape to you, though, and different angle.
Your style is definitely admirable and I will take some pointers from this.
Seriously, I had so much difficulty putting what I saw in my head down onto paper for this one, but your drawing really helps
>>2448417
M8 I'm not sure if learning from my drawing is a good idea... I'm a beginner and you should probably use a real ref or drawings by good artists.
How do?
>>2448187
Didn't I already tell you to learn to actually draw instead of futilely trying to do something that directly depends on the skills you only learn by drawing?
i've been having trouble with the cross on the ball in loomis and he doesn't really explain how to make the lines wrap around the sphere correctly. is it just a matter of practicing or are there tips that'll help?
>>2448446
this stuff
I have been trying to get into painting for at least 5 years now on and off.
And all my stuff always looks like shit, because my values are all fucked up/non existant,colors never fit each other etc. Its like theres a miscommunication between my eyes and my hand.
What to do to understand value and color? why do my paintings suck while my traditional drawings are fine?
pls respond
pic related its supposed to be a giant skeleton in a desert
>>2448427
>>2448446
Try to imagine the ball is semi-transparent and draw and ellipse instead of just a curved line. Kind of like you are slicing the ball in half. You can then erase the part you are not supposed to see, if you want, or just draw it very lightly to begin with and then reinforce the part you want.
>>2448452
posting some tradition stuff, maybe i just think i nailed it and thats just wrong
>>2448452
Forgot to say that I am talking about digital painting here.
>>2448452
Look at artwork that you like. Turn it to grayscale and study how they have arranged things. Right now your skull is probably too close in value to the sky. Either make the sky darker or the skull.
Also if the skull is supposed to be far away you may want to avoid such dark tones. This will make it appear like there is more space/atmosphere between us and the skull. It will also result in less contrast within the tones of the skull, which may be nice, because it will make the skull a more cohesive singular object. Right now it is basically two eye sockets and a nose hole floating in the sky.
Imagine you are designing a puzzle for a retard. Keep things simple and distinct.
>>2448452
Value wise it's ok, the picture isn't particularly interesting and you could play a bit more with saturation etc.
But you could try these two things and see how you respond to it.
The first is to actually start your drawing very close to middle value range and keep it there for as long as you can. No bright or to dark until you are much later in the process. This can built up your values and make it much more controllable.
An other think you could try is to pick collors from pictures you like. Pick the colors not the painting of course. then try to paint your picture with these colors. Once you have enough colors on the canvas, close the other picture and try to use the colors yourself by color picking and adding more colors.
But keep it simple...then get more complex.
>>2448472
>>2448473
thanks for the quick responses!
Another question: One thing I get stuck with often is the color picker. I just cant seem to figure out where to go on the color picker to achieve certain properties of the color. (e.g. up/down for value left/right for saturation and the relation between to colors on the color picker)
>>2448469
>>2448471
These are better but kind of have the same problem. The soldier's uniform would be better with a darker tone, unifying his body with his head. Right now he's kind of a floating head.
The girl is better. Her tones are mostly light and she is surrounded by dark tones, making things clear and easy to read. Though the heavy darkness of the shirt draws a lot of attention. If you want us to look at her tits and not her face, then success I guess. But I would have left it a medium gray probably. And maybe also darkened some of the lighter background tones in the corners and to the left, to leave the lightest tones only on her skin and light from the window.
>>2448476
>up/down for value left/right for saturation
That's generally how it works. But some colors are darker than others or more saturated. For example red is a fairly dark tone even though it doesn't seem like it because it is so vibrant. Top right red is going to be much darker than top right yellow. So tones don't stay consistent in the color picker when you change hue. And generally if you want to reproduce a gray tone on the left side of the picker you can't just move the selection to the right side, it will be darker, you need to move it up also, sometimes by quite a bit. The default photoshop color picker is a bit misleading in how it is setup.
Color is something you just have to develop a feel for I think. I don't know, I struggle there too.
Tom Scholes had some good posts about color and tones on his website.
http://www.artofscholes.com/colorprimer/
http://www.artofscholes.com/checkingvalues/
>>2448505
Much obliged Anon!
I've been told this has a manjaw. Are they right? I can't tell by myself.
>>2448538
Remove the boobs.
>>2448538
Her face in general looks long and blocky. Make it smaller and rounder.
>>2448538
her face is too big. Especially at an angle when you can see the whole neck, it's unnerving.
>>2448538
For what it's worth I think this looks pretty good.
Then again I like "strong" jaws in women so there's that
>>2448538
Raise everything below the eyes for it to look less masculine
>>2447419
>>2447437
cratched the other too. how am I doing withthis??
also, used green color for toning. To me it seems easier to draw in greens to get the values right.
>>2448469
very nice. good job on the tits and eyes. who's the model? pic related??
>>2448617
Just
should i do studies and gestures traditionally or digitally? i'm a digital artist, but doing studies traditionally is a bit more challenging, while doing them digitally feels easier, especially with tools like warp and easily erasing (feels like cheating sometimes). does it even matter?
I have a question about oil painting;
after making a toned ground with a pigment and a 50/50 oil/solvent mix, can i use charcoal to make an under-drawing once the toned ground has dried? or will that have some unforeseen negative affect
Is this New Masters Academy worth the 29$?
Anyone subscribed and had a look at the stuff?
>>2448427
yeah.... but i don't know how to learn to draw, english isn't my mother languaje and loomis is too wordy for me, and i don't know good books to learn from.
>>2448538
Looks fine, some women have long faces, some round. The weirdest thing about this drawing is the area where the arm connects to the body. I'd get some reference for that.
>>2448636
You'll probably learn more without warp and undo and all that. If drawing traditionally is a challenge, then that is a sign that you should do it. No pain, no gain. And when drawing on paper, if it looks like shit then instead of erasing, draw it again next to the first drawing and try to get it right this time. Forces you to think more about what you are doing instead of just flailing around until it looks ok.
>>2448636
If you're looking for challenge, you can always just draw with your feet. If there's no traditional drawing in your workflow, don't waste your time practicing it. Your time is valuable, only spend it on valuable skills. Different story if you have an actual, practical, reason for why you need traditional drawing skills.
>>2448642
The library is massive and the quality is high. I spent a month pirating NMA content and then determined that 30 bucks would have been a more than fair price for the stuff I used. I recommend you do the same; If you end up only watching one class a month, you probably get more value out of a non-subscription model.
Please fuck my shit up /ic/, how can I improve, don't hold back
>>2448701
he looks furry
>>2448701
you don't
Can someone technically name the parts of pic related.
I.e. what does far right mean, what does middle mean etc.
>>2448756
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSL_and_HSV
>>2448766
Thanks
>>2448244
It's looking pretty fun.
The thumbnail doesn't make sense, though, and there's a pile of perspective & anatomy errors. I'd suggest learning grayscale before colors, too, to get a grasp of strong values and light-caused drama before moving on to convulted color palettes.
>>2448895
Thanks for the response.
I did actually start with grayscale and I do like the value composition even tho it may not make a lot of sense.
Anatomy is definitely fucked, not sure what to do with the leg of the white knight. Not sure how to foreshorten it or even if I can in this perspective, not sure if and how to place it elsewhere so it makes sense.
Right now the background is quite messy so I'll try to define it more.
I know I'm biting more than I could chew but I just got bored of studies and shit.
>>2448244
I guess the biggest thing to me is gesture. The knight that swings looks dumb, he looks more like pic related rather than a warrior swinging a sword wanting to break a fucking shield and murder a dude. Really make him reach back like he wants to strike with the rage of thousand suns. Watch some Tom and Jerry, they had gesture down to fucking science in those cartoons.
There's also the shit perspective but I feel like if you really push the gesture the picture will look pretty chill for a beginner.
>>2448925
Look at pic related. You can literally feel the fucking swing that's about to come.
The covering knight could use some more clear gesture as well. I don't know if he's swinging or covering himself, it looks like he's rather confused.
>>2448927
Thanks! That really helps.
When I was making the gesture I did the swinging motion myself, but I didn't like where the mace was positioned so I settled for this position, but now that you point it out I can see it really doesn't work.
What's the skype group?
>>2448956
Don't look at fucking Tom & Jerry cartoons for sword fighting reference if you want something realistic, look up HEMA on youtube instead and you'll find a ton of material. You're not good enough yet to make up these kinds of poses on your own.
>>2448645
I'd also like to know this. Also, are the Robertson Gnomon DVDs worth picking up? Goals are draw cars, pin ups and pinstriping.
Why am I still symbol drawing?
>>2448411
Chawncee?
Critiqe please
I know there's plenty wrong with it, but I can't quite place my finger on exactly what and where. Critique appreciated.
Anyone happen to have pictures of people sitting down while leaning back and propping themselves up with their hands everytime I try to find something like this on google nothing shows up
>>2449089
Except for taking a picture of your tool, it looks alright to me.
>>2449101
The paper was warping and it was the closest thing I had on hand to weigh it down...
>>2449086
yeah this person's hands are pretty ayyy lmao
>>2449045
I believe face symbols are the hardest to get over, because they are the ones we ingrain the most. Just keep studying faces, maybe even only draw some eyes for a while. You'll start to see them for their shapes eventually. Just try to isolate the problem.
>>2449106
Whatever helps you sleep at night, friendo.
>>2449089
It's the eye in the front, looks like you're still symbol drawing. You definitely have potential though, try just doing eye studies and pretend you're looking at negative/positive shapes rather than the fact that it's an eye.
How do I make this look more interesting and finished?
>>2449088
better than most of us, if you want crit the guy with the keyboards arms have fucked up anatomy
>>2449089
the highlights are way too big unless those are just spots of white hair. Make the hair darker to make the highlights look like highlights
Just got a scanner, pretty hyped.
>>2449410
>>2449411
Evasion!
>>2448609
what the fuck is hanging of her vaginer
>>2449452
The dangling bodies of two stick deceased stickmen
>>2449088
loli isn't allowed
del
>>2449414
good shit, def not beginner
Wew 10 days apart 30 sec gestures. It's been 15 days now that I've been drawing after a year or two of torpid life wasting.
>>2449514
Keep it up anon!
Which beginner book should I read? I did scroll through loomis
I also need to buy a proper eraser too since the one on the pencil is terrible
>>2449541
>scroll
won't really do anything
Did some heads today. I feel good about them, which is bad if you're a beginner.
Someone please tear me a new one on this shit I just drew.
>>2449557
I resized it...
Am I literally retarded? How did this page teach me to to draw the diagram at any angle towards a vanishing point? I draw a line, split it in three, then draw a line from those three points to the vanishing point, then fucking what? What are the diagonal lines based on so they aren't just random?
>mfw constructing figures in perspective
>>2449568
The diagonal lines let you find the exact halfway point between two sideways lines
Draw two diagonals between the corners of a rectangle and the point where they cross is where you draw the new line.
When you sign up for New Masters Academy, can you download the videos and keep them? The one thing keeping me from subscribing is that my schedule is always very irregular. Some months I can focus all my time on drawing, others I can't draw at all and I can never really tell what kind of month it will be.
I don't wanna subscribe and have the videos I need get taken away because the subscription ran out and I didn't get enough time to study them yet.
>>2449555
Actually it's good to breeze through textbooks and such before reading them. You get a good idea of all the material that's going to get covered.
>>2449568
ah I remember seeing this like a year ago and it never helped and I don't think it ever does until you learn how to think in 3d space with shapes. (at least for me)
>>2449614
which for me took a lot of being obsessed with observing shit 24/7 in life and placing objects in space & using a camera mindset
>>2449616
e.g a lot of practice, youll get it eventually if you draw a lot
>>2449619
>>2449568
drew something to show what I mean and how I think of that, its really sloppy and simplified and i know the proportions are wonky but it might help a bit
>>2449638
for the extreme angles you can think of the body just being pinched as it goes away from the camera, and you can see for the extreme angle how the camera is literally on the floor with him pointing at his crotch so a lot of the stuff in the back like his shoulders and his head would be covered up by his legs and chest and crotch because of perspective/angle. Helps to think like that imo
>>2449647
Id personally ignore that vanishing point crap I always hated it, just draw the boxes/rectangles in whatever camera angle you want, helped me to think about which planes/sides of the rectangle are showing and how much of it, like side profile youd only see the side of the box and as you turn you see a tiny bit more of the front plane until its completely front view/plane
>>2449661
either way all that was pointless rambling...just draw what you want and use whatever tools you need
>>2449560
symbol drawing af. look at the angles the lines of the face form. look at the girls nose. the brige starts poking outwards even with her eyes. on your drawing, that angle is halfway down the nose. problems like that are everywhere in your work.
also, way too contour based. the cheekbone lines on the guy on the bottom are way more important to include than the arbitrary, incorrect lines you always put on the nose.
draw what you A C TUALLY see bub
There any advantage to practicing on actual subjects over pictures
Is anyone here proficient at the Reilly Method?
>>2449805
You can find tons of videos on it, but why do you ask
>>2449798
pictures flatten the image for you. Actual subjects train you to see betting in three dimensions, which helps translate depth to the page when drawing. Nothing wrong with drawing from images, but you'll get a better sense of 3d form in person.
>>2449815
It's not really that even, yes pictures sometimes distort images but it's mostly so that you get used to looking at the overall figure/whateveryourdrawing when drawing from life rather than the tendency to focus on little details when drawing from a picture.
>>2449810
I wanted to get critique on some of my lay-ins.
What videos are you referring to? I know about the Watts yt channel. They're the only good free videos I could find on the RM.
>>2449371
what is this?
>>2449824
I have no idea its a product of doodling random silhouettes and colors that became a random suction worm hole thingy, I wanted to turn it into something cause I liked how it turned out
>>2449371
i like it
make it a battle scene
>>2449414
your pointer finger nail is making me queasy. Is it cut in half?
Random spider-like thing I drew.
Thoughts?
I have two moar hours of artfaging to do today, what should I do /ic/.
>>2447454
the closer calf and foot is actually smaller than the distant calf.
>>2449371
do you mind if i practice ont his?
>>2448452
>>2448472
>>2448473
I tried again, feel slightly more like i know what i was doing but it still looks shit.
I am aware that the subject matter isnt really interesting and that the anatomy is fucked, this is about value depth and scale for me.
Anyone care to to a paintover or quick sketch for me?
Is prokos bean torso method a good way to learn form/gesture?
(1/2)
(2/2)
fck my shut up /ic/
>>2450072
Work on anatomy, gesture, faces blah blah blah, read the sticky blah blah. good first try, sticky, etc.
>>2450084
wow m8 thx u helped me alot
>>2450092
he really did though. Those are all your issues, not to mention line quality and a lack of depth. It's funny, you put little to no effort into the drawing, and then when someone puts the same amount of effort into a critique, they are the villan. Maybe you should look at the sticky and actually study, or you could take your self congratulatory ass and jump off a overpass you degenerate
best of luck
Absolute beginner here, i've been studying perspective and head anatomy for the last 2 weeks. Today i needed a little break and decided to draw a little kirby, just to see if i could get the perspective right and place everything correctly. I havn`t started rendering yet.
Now my question is: In all of his current artwork, kriby looks smooth as fuck. How do you get round and soft edges like on the right?
>>2450196
It pretty much is just a matter of drawing more and getting physically better at drawing. Training your arm to draw straighter lines and more precise curves.
You could do these to improve faster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk
>>2450206
Thanks! Will watch the video and try to improve!
>>2450092
another example of someone who wants to be spoonfed
i actually hate /ic/ sometimes
>>2449514
I have a feeling 30 second gestures are not very useful as a beginner....What do you learn from doing 30 second gestures, its better to take your time at first and study gestures. That 30 second stuff is probably only useful if youre already decent
>>2450196
ellipse tool, take your time, etc...Trust me it isnt a competition of who can draw a perfect line the first time
Does anyone else feel weird when they go into the draw thread and there's a couple posts by people who have literally no drawing experience? While we're stuck in this thread for a year or so?
Nobody replies to them, which I guess is a plus.
>>2450206
Want to play soccer?
>Well, do 100 toe wiggles a day for a month, and then maybe you can progress to hip twists and knee bending after that
Fuck that shit lol, I'm here to enjoy myself and have fun not sitting around drawing lines as "practice".. practice for what!? you want to learn soccer, you play soccer. You want to draw then fucking draw and have FUN.
>>2450267
put on some of your favorite music or TV show, and just start doing it. Your lines will improve, your pictures will look better, and you will have more fun drawing because your lines will actually look like you invisoned them. Having shit lines can be very frustrating.
>>2450235
It helps you draw faster and capture the motion of the figure, they're not supposed to look good.
Just started drawing yesterday. I forgot to account for her turned head so then my drawing came out like a baked potato - I constructed the face with a straight line rather than a curved line. Should I just kill my'reself right now?
>>2450313
looks pretty fucking good to me.
I hate it when people just come in here showing off fucking masterpieces and going like "uhm yeah i just started yesterday, any tips?".
Fuck you man, this thread is for BEGINNERS, and this is very discouraging.
Please help
>>2449953
dozen oranges pls pablo
>>2450318
I'm unsure whether to take this as a compliment or not
>>2450313
read the sticky, you're better than 10% of /ic/
>>2450313
blog?
still doodlin. What exactly are fundamentals anyway?
so... suggestions?
>>2450413
the basics of anatomy and proportion
which you obviously do not have and should get started on
>>2450267
If you want to play soccer professionally, you do laps, practice dribbling, practice kicking properly, and do mock games, and only when you're good at those do you get to be on the field for a real game. It's not as different as you think.
Yes, you do need to just draw to get better at drawing. You'll never improve if you only do basic exercises forever, but those exercises train specific parts of drawing faster than just drawing ever will. You want cleaner lines? Do line exercises. Bad at perspective? Perspective studies and box drawing. Can't do faces? Study portraits and Barque plates. The practice can be fun, too, and you'll improve much faster by going in with a training mindset.
>>2450431
Okay, I was kind of an ass on that one. I just hate when the joy gets sucked out of everything.
>>2450418
dunno work in your lineart dont chicken scratch
also you can use anime cellshade instead of that amateur watercolor
>>2450011
I think to much in terms of forground, backround and subject matter.
what you should do is were is my focus. Skeleton. Contrast....rest low contrast.
>>2450475
Ok sorry for my bad english earlier. I meant to say You not I.
So i made a simple comp. Think of values as. Contrast. Eveything non important. Low contrast. That doesn't mean it has to be middle value. It just means that it can't jump from light to dark heavily. So if it's dark, then no bright lights. And the reverse for bright lights. No dark values. Then you pump up contrast were the focus is.
Is this coming along okay?
Need some feedback
Fuck the perspective,
Draw proper human first
Draw that shit later
Drew with an upside down reference for all except the top left one. Just warming up on animals because I know humans are going to be a whole shit-fest to deal with.
>>2450559
So you can tell how much I fucked up
>>2450529
nose is wonky
How long does it take to git gud.
Gud means people will fap to my drawings.
>>2450827
If you draw all the time and take few rests.... probably 4 years?
>>2450827
People don't care about the minute details that come with drawing the human body when it comes to porn, so the bar's set pretty low on that one. Like, your average joe's not gonna stop viciously masturbating just because you fucked up the anatomy of the arm. Honestly seen some fucked up porn in my day, shit that, looking back on it know, is god-awful, and not gonna lie, I still fapped to it regardless at the time.
>>2450834
>Queen Bee
>>2450839
>That bottom left scene
Is there a ridiculously time frame as to where these need to be finished? That image is clearly a "I just don't give a fuck about my job anymore" type deal.
>>2450843
I don't know the full story behind hentai studios, but probably a combination of poor managers forcing deadlines and low budget meaning understaffed teams.
>>2450839
jesus christ
>>2450424
Yeah, I'm just doodling at the moment. I thought the fundamentals were shading/form and perspective?
Proportions seem to be important but secondary to drawing.
Like cooking. how to cook comes first, how much to cook comes second.
>>2450839
I still feel guilty fapping to all their rape porn. But I can't stop. Fuck you, Queen Bee.
>>2450480
nice, thank you mate! ill see what i can come up with today.
>>2449046
who?
>>2450480
>>2450932
Alritght here i go,
took me longer than the stage of the painting suggests. I feel like i improved quite a bit tho, pretty happy. I hope this was not just an happy accident.
Whats next? give me all you got /ic/
i want to buy this set of graphite pencils but one of them is a 4B water soluble graphite pencil
will my old revel brushes do or do i need some better ones also what about paper is 110g/m^2 ok if i take it slow?
How can we good at perspective figure drawing?
>>2451197
just paint what ya see. only time ya need to use extreme perspective is for comics and the like and you don't need that yet.
>>2450559
literally before i read your post i thought only the top left looks good lmao. i do the same thing i slant all my drawings to the right I'm going to try drawing in a mirror the opposite direction
>>2451146
110gram with water doesn't sound like a good plan, maybe if you stretch it.
>>2451275
resize ur shit
>>2451275
Don't know anything about you, but some ideas:
If your equipment isn't centered relative to the screen it can throw you off.
Lines are cleaner the faster you go.
Friction between tablet and stylus is different from paper and pen
>>2448469
holy lens distortion batman
>>2450239
>mfw they've been here for years but never improved because no one replied to them
really have to work harder on proportions
>>2451351
rotated
How do you draw faces? >>2450313 here, I drew another potato
>>2449088
what game are you working on
>>2451408
rotatevania
>>2451358
upper body-> lower body proportions seem off
So this is a pic in one point perspective but the skyscrapers don't vanish or converge extremely at the vanishing point, why is that?
Just that tall?
>>2451438
I love reading beginner threads just cuz of posts like this.
>>2449605
As far as i can see there is no download option, but nothing is stopping you from just recording your desktop while the video is running
>>2451438
Yes, America was the first country to build a building high enough to break perspective.
Maybe you can draw lines parallel to the top ledges on the building and see if they converge to one point.
How much drawings do u beginners try to get done a day?
How much days of the week gets lost to life happening?
>>2451484
I try to draw every day.
I used to play piano since I was a kid and the rule my teacher taught me was that I should practice every day for minimum 20 minutes. Even if I had a busy day I tried to squeeze in 20 minutes of practice and I improved steadily. If you skip a day it's like you unlearn a little bit but if you put in at least 20 minutes, you improve even if only a little.
>>2451350
A lot of the time when you look at posts like that there really isn't anything to say to them. When you've got no idea what you're doing the only critique you can give a person like that is 'learn to draw'. The sticky is there and the material in it could get anyone past the beginner stage if they put hard work into studying it, but they don't so what can you say?
You could go on a long rant to them about the proper mentality of learning a skill and all that, but you do it so many times and you get tired of repeating it. They just want someone to hold their hand and carry them to success, but it just doesn't work like that. Some of the ones who think they belong in the draw thread are usually deluded about their level of skill anyways, and will ignore critique if you give it to them.
So how the fuck does one shade with a pencil? I'm kinda lost here, Loomis says that it is personal the way one shades but fuck that, i'd like some opinions. Really light hand ALL THE TIME? or using different softnesses? or using the hatching technique?
>>2451460
>Yes, America was the first country to build a building high enough to break perspective.
>>2451514
also, ref.
>>2451438
it's mainly the type of camera lens that causes some pics to look very bent and others very flat.
>>2451514
I use a 2H and a 2B. I'll just go back and forth with the side of the pencil and try to get a really smooth and even tone, and you just gradually build it up in darker areas. You want to approach it in layers, starting with your light tone and doing passes with darker layers.
Don't worry about getting it exactly like it is in the book, just worry about the subject matter. You have to be really patient with rendering, and it's better to start practicing it with less difficult subjects than heads. Whenever you get around to it, approach it as it's own individual thing to learn.
Why is Loomis so obsessed with teaching people how to draw little jewish men?
>>2451546
Jew can't handle the truth
>>2451546
Back in his day it used to be fun to look at the weird looking jews and draw them. People would gather around the local jew and draw funny portraits of him. This is how the first modern cartoon characters were first created.
Jews aren't a laughing matter anymore though.
>Loomis
I hate the way his books are written. It's like really shit Disney dialogue
>>2451546
Those are HIS creations, you dingleberry. You're not supposed to make things just like him, you're supposed to make your own characters with your own shapes.
>>2451546
It's simple, anon.
The people who finish his book drawing little Jewish men entirely missed the point of it and one can safely conclude that they lack The Spark.
>>2451561
it was a better time
>>2451566
It's just how people talked in the 40's.
>>2451586
>didnt try your own designs
>didnt learn how to abuse the ball, the axis, and the shapes
The system didn't fuck you, you just never had the s p a r k (literally)
>>2451593
Yeah I wonder about the people who actually, literally do the exercises in Loomis books.
I remember how it was enough for me to read and I'd go "oh so THAT'S how you do it!" and then incorporate it in my own drawings.
I suspect Loomis might be a bit too much to dive in for someone who's literally drawn nothing before.
