Grand Prize
>You drew everyday for a long time, longer than anyone else. Congratulations. You are the best.
Rules
>Update every day at: http://www.lavaflake.com/draw/
>The deadline for submissions is 00:00 GMT each day
>You should spend at least 30 minutes on each update
>Miss a day and you can make up for it the next day with a double post.
>Miss another day within a month and you're eliminated.
>Progress updates are ok but they will be policed like other submissions
Entry into the second challenge is open until Saturday at 00:00 GMT. People who join after then will be entered into the less awesome Last Artist Standing #3.
>>2361694
Who photobashed the OP pic?
>>2361701
Rover
>>2361701
Looks like it was Helio
>not waiting for 1000 replies to make a new thread
Just 2 more days then we're on to week #3? (Friday and Saturday submissions are both counted as week #2?)
>>2361694
We need a comment/critique function on the site asap. Theres so much potential for that place. I'm ready to ditch /ic/ for good and set up camp with lavaflake.
>>2361732
I'll make some extra lewd tomorrow to make up for it.
I still think that these therads should be a sticky, I mean it's the most dynamic thing on this board
>>2361737
I don't think dividing the community is a good idea. It's only been two weeks, let's not go ahead of ourselves.
I draw every day but never like one individual drawing, just keep working on the same piece until it's finished.
>>2361737
I'm not that crazy about a comment section, but it would be nice if we got a commendable blog/commentary section that you fill yourself. Like you know, a few words about the piece you drew, what was giving you trouble, what were you aiming for etc.
>>2361737
It was said last thread, "No", if you want critiques post in the goddamn drawthread, if you want to circlejerk go to deviantart.
>>2361756
Putting a description on each piece is different to letting people post comments on them, I can get behind letting the uploader append a short description on their pieces, if only to link to refs or whatever rather than having to stick them on the piece itself.
>>2361762
I agree totally, so far this shit works pretty well, some "big" changes would definitely ruin the whole tranquility that it now has.
You should be very careful about the expansion of the site.
also, gj
What this site needs is microtransactions. Where are my goddamn cosmetics Lavaflake?
We need Team Forza and 23:30 stickers and a whole heap of other shit I'm too tired to think of.
i spent the night reworking the site infrastructure so it's now caught up with web2.0 standards and it's possible to start implementing the good features. i also trimmed away 95% of the junk template files and restructured the file system which means I won't have to worry about growing pains in the future.
with that said, before I start implementing all the cool new features i need to get the report system up and running as well as the moderation tools to support it. for example anything to do with changing/updating submissions from behind the scenes involves manual changes in the database, saving the image file then resizing it in photoshop and FTPing it to the server. it's one of those things where spending a couple hours now to make these tools will save me hours every week.
>>2361737
>>2361762
It's been pretty back and forth on whether there should be comments and if there are then how they should be handled. same goes with being able to title/describe submissions. will the descriptions be informative or used to make excuses/another place to link to their patreon (please support my loomis studies)
>>2361767
Yeah changes will be slow regardless of what happens since it's a part time solo project. The main focus of the site will always be to encourage and reward participation. People want more and someday there will be more but it'll come slowly
>>2361786
sweet
>>2361786
Great work lava
Fuck, i was following magicoreo and he had to be a lazy fuck to get eliminated. What an asshole.
>>2361728
Hey bby im all you ever need, ignore those losers.
Who here /fit/?
>tfw struggling to git gud on both boards
do gestures between sets. double dip them gains
>>2361885
fuck yes I'm doing that.
mens sana in corpore sano fa m
>No glasses
>Basically blind
>Haven't posted yet
I'm still going to make it, but today's post is going to look like shit.
I'll make up for it by joining team Forza as soon as the timer resets.
>>2361896
ditto, i'm working on a double post as we speak
>>2361912
DON'T FALL ANON!
RIP 23:30 club ;_;
>>2361880
I only go to fit for the threads not about fitness. That's the worst place to go if you're trying to get in shape
>>2361933
Could say the same thing about /ic/
>>2361933
what's fit's equivalent of LOOMIS?
>>2361938
kek
>>2361939
GOMAD
>>2361939
otter mode
>>2361939
SQUATS & OATS
>>2361452
I like this idea a lot. Even better if you can't see who left the comment. Identities and publicity are what creates drama and circlejerking, so with both of those aspects removed people would have no reason to comment unless they had something constructive to say, or genuinely like the piece enough to tell the artist.
>>2361989
comments in either case, anonymous or not, will create drama, especially if people start shitting on someone over and over again
it's pointless if we can talk in these threads about it instead
>>2361939
5 SCOOPS CMON WHATEVER IT TAKES
>>2361992
Good point, I didn't think of the possibility of one person shitposting on all of someone's submissions even without community encouragement. I guess if someone really wants critique, they can post their name here and just ask.
Why can't we just do critique... here? In this thread?
>>2362005
people are afraid of the mean hacker 4chinz, anonymous post let you be real/mean while names kinda make you nicer? i dont know.
>>2362005
that's what I was thinking, or the drawthread
>>2362005
there's already the other threads on the board for critiques. if it's going to be on ic then may as well use one of them
>>2362007
But the draw thread is slow.. These threads blaze by and we're all commonly motivated.
I think it wouldn't be bad to cultivate our own critique environment. As long as we can keep the circle jerking to a minimum, we can make this community even better than what we have right now.
>>2362008
But LAS is different
>>2362011
Being anonymous in your critique is better.
>>2362014
is it? almost every time someone gets butthurt and asks for a blog
>>2362014
Seconded. Maybe we post whichever piece we're critting so that other anons can agree or disagree with our points?
>>2362005
Ye take a piece that you'd like to critique and post it
>>2361880
Put on 2Kg weight on your pencil
>>2362020
blog?
>>2362020
rover?
>>2361932
don't give in to forza propaganda, slow and steady wins the race
>>2361939
jfc rippetoe is /fit/'s loomis, hands down. Scooby is vilppu btw.
>>2362011
I think one type of critique that is possible with this as opposed to the draw thread is more of an "overall critique", since we are posting work we are doing everyday, it's easier to point out consistent mistakes as opposed something that went wrong with a singular image.
ups I missed a deadline, guess I'm out.
>>2361880
I used to watch Vilppu's videos while on the crosstrainer.
>>2362186
>a deadline
>a
"a" as in one? singular?
You know about the tokens, right?
>mfw the snow takes out my power and I get eliminated tomorrow
>>2362212
Isnt there a buffer for that? If you skip a day, you can upload two submissions the next day to make up for it
>>2362216
you still lose a token
>>2362220
Then again its hard to monitor if those messages are critique, could they be moderated somehow?
>>2362226
I don't get why not having a messaging system, public or otherwise, is such a bad thing. It's not like people can't talk shit or compliment people on these threads. If anything, having a name associated with you would get people to play nice
>>2362230
Then the whole of 4chan is not a good idea
>>2361786
Just make it so comments are only visible to the op. It'll discourage shitposting and improve the site.
2h until week 2 entry closes
>>2362270
It's usually not a good idea because it means there have to be people to moderate, and that brings in more human error, trust issues and other hassle which takes away from actually developing the site, I'd rather if users got the option to make their Email public on the profile page so if someone wants to contact them for whatever reason they can communicate that way.
>>2362294
This is the best solution
>>2362284
... And I haven't posted yet.
LIVING LA VIDA LOCA
>>2362333
liva la vida tokenless
rip
>>2361694
>first week completed
Feels good man
im so jealous of people who look like they have fun. im lookin at you and your creb kingler
>>2362370
fun doesn't last
sorry its been so slow today, i haven't been baiting or shitposting as hard as i should be.
23:30 club time
23:30 club assembleee
I joined Forza and all day I've felt on edge about it. I've been refreshing the page and thread constantly.
Stockholm syndrome.
Is anyone here proficient with gestures?
Can someone tell me what I'm doing right and what I'm doing wrong? I understand what a gesture should accomplish from Vilppu and Proko, simply capture the flow, mass and action of a pose, but I'm not sure if I'm actually getting better or worse and how to correct my strategic mindset to better improve the execution. Much more than "a-ha!" moments I find vast spaces of "what in the fuck am I even doing?"
>>2362443
you trying to trick people with this meme.
>>2362450
right? i have my post lined up for 00:00 for the first time and i'm so excited
I love those doge gestures
>>2362370
I'm jealous of people with actual skill. Happy you enjoyed creb though!
imgur keeps rejecting my fucking picture AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>2362457
rover?
>>2362465
>already uploaded pic
>Waiting to post as part of team /forza/
>>2362465
>EVERYTHING IS GOING ACCORDING TO PLAN
TONIGHT I WILL DECIMATE YOU ALL
>>2362472
holy shit the 23:30 club is real look at all these last minute submissions
>>2362475
What are they going to do when there's an unexpected interruption in their schedule?
>Forgot to post
>Check 5 minutes before deadline
>Almost have a heart attack
I can breathe now
NINE eliminated
2 tokens used
>>2362475
I thought they died, I was fooled
>>2362475
>doubting the 23:30 club
>g_d's chosen folk
a-anon...
>First post of Forza team is Sonic
2fast breh
echo made it with 7 seconds to spare
>>2361939
GOMAD
also remember your protein, you gotta do atleast 4 scoops man, cmon, cmon man, CMON
>>2362484
Holy fuck do we have a record?
Being unavailable all day and making the post minutes before the deadline two days in a row is too stressful.
Also, 00000000, did you draw those elk from real life?
[spoiler] Does spoiler even work on /ic/? [/spoiler]
Lava for your next piece I want you to look at hips
>>2362490
you mean cyberpunk helmets
Waiting for the last 10
#1
69 have been eliminated.
114 remain (120 yesterday)
>sonic beat my giant asshole
fuck you die slow mother fucker
Oh shit, Lava joined the forza force.
>unintentionally join the 23:30 team
>post at 23:57, adrenalin still pumping
G-guys, i think i like this
>>2362494
Do you ever get disheartened about drawing hyper furry porn every day?
>tfw you make your submissions early but post them in the last minutes because you're an adrenaline addict
>>2362494
Oh, hush. He's charmingly pointing at said giant asshole. I think this came out well all in all.
>>2362488
I doubt he did, all the stuff he's posted in draw threads have been from ref as far as I know of.
>>2362494
The kekkest of keks
>>2362500
Rover's girl is kind of looking at it uncomfortably too.
>>2362494
You're too slow
>>2362494
you two actually posted at the exact same time but he registered his account before you and that's the tie breaker
>>2362500
Oh my god I clicked on it without thinking and it opened on my GIANT monitor, butthole level to my eyes
Skills
>>2362497
So you drew less than 30 min?
T R I B U N A L
>>2362514
>>2362514
kek
>>2362516
loomis really needs to stop goofing around and actually draw instead of rambling..the fucker better be drawing more than what he is showing.
>>2362497
once you get a taste you'll start cutting it closer and closer, trying to get that high
trying to feel alive
>>2362525
>>2362524
give me something to study and ill go for it.
>>2362533
make a schedule you cuck.
>>2362534
As you can see, i am lacking in effort.
>>2362535
i only have from 11am to 4 pm everyday and on free days i try to do the hours of the past days. do it!.
>>2362537
Thanks anon.
>>2362524
What do you mean rambling?
>>2362541
>rambling
have you seen his past post? he's so lost its not even funny, he seems to have energy so might as well put it somewhere
>>2362535
the 100 challenge thing is not necessary you just draw as many of the things you decide for one hour i just hope to someday i can draw 100 of anything in one hour I also suggest you don't do them so close to each other like, wait 3 days to try it again.
>>2362537
>Fryday
>>2362490
They were next in line but someone suggested forearms so I went with it. I'm going to check out the mechanics of the tib+fib then move on to hip country
>>2362552
Sounds like you got a plan. Carry on good sir.
>>2362555
that aint me nigguh, i only post as that name in these threads
>>2362544
cant i just grind anatomy vids aswell?
Am I in forza if I manage to get top ten?
>>2362563
i'm not your dad do what you want.
>>2362579
i think you're forza if you're inside on the first 2 to 3 hours.
>>2362580
Oh,'cus i really need one.
>>2362587
its 5 hours dude take the vids of the things you REALLY need to grind in and replace something else unless you have more than 5 hours then you should be in heaven.
>>2362537
What's 100 challenge?
>>2362592
Oh, nevermind
>>2362544
>draw 100 of anything in one hour
Did you mean
>Carpal Tunnel
?
>>2362598
RSI simulator
>>2362581
I'd say first 30 minutes. Doesn't it imply that you did your drawing earlier in the day so you're ready to submit when the new day comes?
>>2362498
no I love it
>>2362618
i even jerk off to gave's drawings he should be proud.
>>2361880
have you not seen my dumbell still life?
>>2362598
is this something that has come into your feeble mind when you think of drawing many things? give up now.
I'm having so much trouble with Perspective, I even bump into stuff all the time because i cant judge the distance correctly.
>>2362212
kek, i have generator prepared and gonna draw with pencil and paper and take photo with phone instead of PS if it comes to that.
>>2362618
how do i hair? please help.
>>2362704
i dint give her upper lips... it dont matter its a shit drawing, next time.
Anyone notice this from last night submission?
>>2362735
no. NEXT!
Guys, is there any chance to become as good as a guy that goes to an artschool?
I mean with hard practice and all that has anyone made it on their own?
Please tell me it's possible.
>>2362747
yes dude its technically possible, that does NOT mean it will be easy. mark my words, you will become your worst enemy.
>>2362747
Yes, of course. Most artschools are a waste of time anyways.
>>2362747
I go to a foreign fine arts college and I've learned almost 90% by myself. First year really opened my eyes to composition and perception though
Most works are shit, most teachers are shit, most people are stuck in their comfort zone forever, some kids even in 5th year are still drawing their deviantart animu
Even then it's the best place to find people who can give you a honest, accurate, useful critique. Out of 50 teachers I think at least 3-4 can do so, and out of my 200 classmates there's about 5-10 that are extremely talented and -most important- very fruitful, always investigating and trying out new stuff. It's no surprise that after all these years they cut off from the rest. For some reason they have me in high regards too.
But anyways as I was saying, it's useful but you have to make it work, if you make the most out of it of course it'll be a thousand times more effective than doodling on your tablet hoping for a good critique on /ic/
The first and most important thing is that you have to learn to say 'I don't like this' and 'this is wrong' to your own drawings, if you achieve this you can be great by yourself, but a second opinion can do wonders
>>2362747
The only thing it's good for is forcing you to actually work instead of slacking off, and having experienced people nearby you can ask questions and get critique from. Otherwise my biggest regret in life was doing a useless creative degree.
Every resource you need to git good is available online and probably better than a school. As long as you actually make an active effort pursue art completely and properly then you're better off 'self-taught'. Fuck art school, wouldn't do it again even if it was free.
>>2362747
The thing some others might not mention is that artschool is good for networking. The few friends out of the dozens I know that graduated from artschools got jobs because their teachers hooked them up.
>>2362816
Networking is actually the only thing I don't need help with since I know everyone in those circles in my country.
But thanks.
You should probably remove the "Follow/Favorite Users" bullet from the task list, LavaFlake. Since you've implemented it already.
>>2362747
I went to artschool, I was lazy, my work doesn't stand out among LAS entries.
Disgustingly I was actually one of the better in my year though, because they don't teach drawing on most fine art courses, most people in my year can only make conceptual work.
Art school is just being NEET with a sense of direction and an excuse, it's still all on you to actually use it.
I need to be drawing but I'm depressed as fuck.
>>2362936
>not channeling your depression into beautiful art
cmon anon step it up
>>2362937
I'm trying. I think I'm better at channeling anger.
>>2362747
I'm in the same boat as this guy >>2362920 Have my BA and everything but my shit looks amateur. Art school doesn't teach you how to draw. The give you a year of the most basic of fundies and the rest is all frosting and courses on how to best follow prompts when you do get jobs.
You're better off taking that 4 years off and doing self study. It'll be cheaper too.
>>2362957
In my defense I was in no way part of that conversation.
>>2362937
>not channeling your hatred into your studies
Pleb tier advice, how do you expect to become a Sith lord of drawing with that attitude.
Apparently I'm also good at channeling my hunger. I've started drawing but now my stomach is growling. I hope I still feel motivated after I eat a quick snack, I like how this picture is going so far.
>don't enable comments Lava! Critique is what the threads are for!
>two critique requests in a 200 post thread
>go completely ignored
>>2362451
Doin pretty good. Some of these are missing a spine. Starting with the center line/spine helps define the 'flow' of the whole body.
>>2362704
Think of it as chunks or tubes attached to the skull and continue to break it down into smaller chunks, if that helps. There are tutorials in the sticky.
>>2362735
kek
>>2362995
CMON FOUR SCOOPS
if were doing critique in the thread.
Plz I need help.
>>2363114
The legs are too short. Also the shoulders feel a bit too stiff. Her right hand is good but I have no idea what's going on with the left one.
>>2362451
Yours are clean and economic i'd say.
The problem with gesture is that it is very much subjective to the artists who drew it. I think right now you should test it by adding basic forms to the gesture and see if it works or not and then get back to it in 2-3 days.
>Much more than "a-ha!" moments I find vast spaces of "what in the fuck am I even doing?"
Your development is in that "what the fuck am i even doing?" moment.
mfw i wake up, sit down to draw and realize that i cant draw anything without reference
>>2363242
I promise you can, you just haven't decided what you want to draw.
>>2363242
Work on construction. Start with simple blocks and form them like you would if you were working with clay or a similar traditional sculpting medium. That's probably what helped me the most from moving asway from just copying references. It's easy to say you know construction, you construct your way up towards the ref, but you also know where everything will be beforehand because it's right there in the ref. When you're working on your own it's important to work heavier through construction.
That's just how it was for me anyways - maybe you'll find some help in trying to adapt my thinking.
>>2363242
let's draw your pic
>>2363259
but that's a reference
>>2363262
your mom is a reference
>>2363258
This.
The "reduce everything to basic shapes" meme works.
>>2362605
what about doing in one day the work for the entire week and then just coming each day to post one those?
>>2363290
you can do that but how long do you think you'll last? the goal is to form good habits and if you're stockpiling work for days you don't want to draw or if you're submitting old work then how long do you think you'll stick with it?
>tfw can't into drawing machines and stuff
I dunno, my lines just don't look right. I wish my works looked like that Naf guy's
>>2363312
How to draw objects and env. from your imagination by Scott Robertson.
>>2361694
How do I submit to Challenge #2? I only see an option to submit to #3.
>>2363360
Huh? It's same for me
>>2363360
A submission counts for all weeks you're still a part of. Week two is over, so anyone new starts with week three.
>>2363379
So i am in all the challenges that are active for me?
oh, Saturday 00:00 GMT is the start of Saturday, I thought it was the end of Saturday
>>2363382
yep, if you get eliminated then you're kicked out of all active challenges. if you update then it keeps you in all active challenges. this system is to allow new people to join and let the eliminated back in.
there will be topic challenges coming up in the future where you have to draw the suggested topic everyday or be eliminated and they should see a higher turnover rate than the LAS. getting eliminated from one of those won't kick you out of the LAS, as long as you keep submitting.
>>2363392
yeah, friday 23:59:59 may be a better way to describe it
>>2363324
Uoooh, this is excellent. Many thanks
>>2363398
>there will be topic challenges coming up in the future where you have to draw the suggested topic everyday or be eliminated
Lava is going to make us draw his furry commissions, isn't he.
>>2363398
>there will be topic challenges coming up in the future where you have to draw the suggested topic everyday or be eliminated
my body is ready
>>2363398
>there will be topic challenges coming up in the future where you have to draw the suggested topic everyday or be eliminated
You better make the first one Sonic or I'm going to be fucking pissed
And don't forget dragon dildo day
>>2363436
>end up drawing sonic and dragon dildos every single day
what have I done with my life
>>2363440
This is the future you chose.
You can leave anytime and let me win though, kek :^)
How will these topic challenges be decided, are we all just going to be at the mercy of lava
>>2363448
Exactly. What, are you a pussy? I'll draw anything to stay in the challenge.
>>2363448
hearthstone discover mechanic style voting system
>>2363448
Make a numbered list, roll dice
>>2363452
This was his plan all along, he now has an army of artists who will draw anything for him just to remain in the challenge
>>2363456
sounds good, let's make the list
item #1 will have to be Sanix
>>2363459
2fast
>>2363049
>>2363240
Wow, this is the first time someone on /ic/ thought I was getting anywhere with these things. Maybe I am actually learning.
I'll take your advice; it's definitely true that lacking the spine / line of action kind of cripples the strength of some of the gestures.
As for adding basic forms, I guess I should start doing form studies along side my gestures and when comfortable with the concept, I'll start taking the next steps to start fleshing out.
Thanks a bunch, guys!
>>2363398
> topic challenges
Awesome. Hope there's going to be a variety of them, from the academic (do studies of X) to comfort zone pushing (render pictures of decomposing animals).
Power might go out soon
>>2363459
1. sonic
2. robots
3. swords
4. wild animals
5. domestic animals
6. aliens
7. skeletons
8. mythical creatures
9. guns
10. fantasy races
11. electronic devices
12. vehicles
13. explosions
14. going fast
15. sonic
16. aeroplanes
17. hydroplanes
18. wood planes
19. sports
20. work
21. happiness
22. sadness
23. death
24. life
25. big fat cat tats
26. itty bitty kitty titties
27. porn
28. clothes
29. buildings
30. memes
please add more
>>2363491
END OF THE LINE, LOOMIS
>>2363495
Fuck you santa
>>2363492
31. mechas
>>2363499
Lel, no matter what i rotate it to it ends up like this.
>>2363448
I know that in some timed challenge communities, they have intentionally flexible (but not overly broad) "prompts" from which you can interpret and make your own original work off of.
For example, each day they let you to choose from a set of three prompts like:
> a touch of cosmos
> triumphant return
> makeshift home
>>2363503
>>2363492
Here's some
corruption
determination
fear
thought
hate
boobs
butts
dicks
saucy
hot
cold
atmosphere
space
creation
destruction
>>2363507
Shows that its correctly rotated on my pc, Whatever.If the power go's i'lll be playing Mh4u the rest of the day.
>>2363491
Fug.
>>2363530
needs more sonics
>>2363492
66. Anthropomorphisms
67. Time
68. Holiday
69. Lewd
70. Heists/Pirates/Buglary/Stealing
71. Bugs
72. Sleep
73. Superheros and Supervillains
74. Fairytale
75. Infection
76. Flowers
77. Master Studies
78. Videogames
79. Confusion
80. Feet
81. Hands
82. Horror Stories
83. Famous Events
84. Broken
85. Autism
>>2361880
/fit/izen here, just hit dat dere 4 plate deadlift on monday. feelsgoodman. shame i literally can't draw for shit.
>>2363523
>50. Traps
o-ok
"Submissions will enter you into Last Artist Standing #3. There are currently 54 participants."
Does this mean I got eliminated from Last Artist Standing #2?? i'm pretty sure i didn't miss any days :<
>>2363568
>>2363570
thanks, sorry, i panicked
>>2363492
86. Strength
87. Frustration
88. Creature Mashup
89. Absurd
90. Mistake/Accident
>>2363492
91 Spring
92 Summer
93 Autumn
94 Winter
95 Cyberpunk
96 Steampunk
97 round things
98 yellow things
99 stellar objects
100 hot things
>>2363579
>yellow things
I need to get a yellow coloring pencil now
>>2363568
Don't delete my posts you cuck - it was a valid response for this mouth breather
>>2363579
> yellow things
self portrait time yay
>>2363582
screaming ree is not an accepted meme. go to rk9 if you feel like baiting.
>>2363587
You can't police expressing emotion just because our mod is german
>>2363589
>m-muh fascist mods
>muh free speech
Say something worth saying next time and maybe I'll have a little sympathy if the mod deletes it.
>>2363602
good question
>>2363602
There are plenty of online dice-rollers.
