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Post your nsfw, critique work and so on.
Furry is allowed, however do not over indulge on the subject of furries or their culture. Unnecessarily reporting these anons are strongly discouraged. This thread is dedicated to helping anons improve their erotic drawings and paintings.
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Respost of the last pic, since it was the last one in the thread and I'd still like some feedback if possible.

>>2348569
The view on the screen is the one on the phone, so yeah, the one she sees is the exact same pic we see. I hope you are trolling, cause if you are not then I'm very stupid and I don't even realize it.
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I'm having problems with her pose, making her feel like she's actually in leaning on the floor.
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>>2348794
You say she's on the floor, but her pose suggests she's standing and leaning on the wall.
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>>2348805
That's what I mean, I could just pass it off as she leaning on the wall, but I want to improve. Btw the POV is as if the gut is standing up.
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>>2348813
This is a bit hard to explain, but I think it's because her back is arched too far back and her hands aren't going low enough for her to be leaning on the floor that she looks like she's standing. Doesn't help that you didn't draw the legs.
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Gonna need to include upper thigh, and with the perspective they will have to splay. Will look oogy and un-natural if they're not at the right angle. Freeze frame some POV stuff and you'll get the arch and angles
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>>2348794
Widen the POV and add hints that it's a floor (carpet, cushions, ...)
Add gravity (hairs, objects, ...) flatten the boobs on the ground...

Sorry for bad English
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Why do so many porn artists have a tumblr? How does tumblr help spread your artwork?
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>>2349264
>Why do so many porn artists have a tumblr

Because they're shallow and uncreative enough to let their work speak for itself.
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>>2349264
>tumblr

All the porn artists worth a damn are on twitter. Tumblr is trash.
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>>2349264
Reblogs mean your work will get around much faster than it would in other places.
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>>2349264
Because it's a popular platform and you can get good exposure when people share your art around.
>>2349266
Makes zero sense.
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>>2349266
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>>2348794
>...and then she farts!
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critique? Anatomy getting better?
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>>2349709
Arms look thick (matter of taste?). Her kneecaps look simplified in a bad way to me.
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flat values, flaccid dicks.
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>>2349709
can i have your blog?
I think the piece looks pretty good besides the arm holding the staff. Not the hand or the forearm but the shoulder? or top of the arm.
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I hate cleaning up
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i dont really like drawing porn cause im bad at it but i saw a panel in a Doxy comic i really liked and wanted to try doing something similar for fun
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>>2349879
Ayyyy, got anymore of that there SU art?
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>>2349876
tumatoh.tumblr.com
there's not much up :/
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this is a wip but can someone give me advice on how to draw the human's foot/shoe?? to me it looks like the ankle is broken and ive been stuck on it for twenty minutes
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Storyboard of a one-page Zootopia comic.
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>>2350007
Fixed
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>>2349979

Well, it looks like the side of the foot and the side of the leg are on different planes

This is what I mean. If the lef was bound inside a cube, and the foot was bound inside a cube, the sides should be resting on the same plane
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>>2349979
Maybe try searching up images of people tying up shoes? Some results look like they could help since they sort of have the same foot pose as that right foot. If not maybe change the foot to be laying flat, that might be a bit easier to illustrate. Or draw the foot first so you can get a better idea how the shoe will fit around it. Hope that helps.
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>>2348831
>>2348845
Thanks for the feedback, I guess I should start from scratch.
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>>2348751
Not even "you suck" guy commented on this one. FML.
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>>2349979

jfc
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>>2348751
>>2350328
The girls head is kinda small and her eyes don't read too well, otherwise you're doing fine bbc earth
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>>2349264
>Don't want to get a tumblr because I know SJWs will attack me for drawing loli characters.
Even if i just use a tumblr for Work Safe drawings, they'll still find out, im sure.
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>>2349879
That's racial appropriation! How DARE YOU!
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>>2348751
Night elves tend to have a more amazonian look. They've also got fangs and claw-like fingernails. The dude looks great, pelvis aside, but she's very generic and badly proportioned.
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>>2351257
Actually, I should say the male's head and hand looks great. How long is that neck?
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the draw thread didnt like this so ill post it here too. boobs. do the nipples look sexy enough? i feel like there's something I'm missing with making them arousing.
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>>2351265
The torso is deformed and the image over all is very flat. Try drawing through the forms to understand their depth.
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>>2351265
Well, you're so much better than me, because i can't even draw something that looks like a human, but i don't know why this was deformed.
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>>2349824
WOW! HOT a What Baabhabhiat
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>>2349912
not atm
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Well, i liked it, it have a hentai look on it, different from stuff I normally do, c&c plox
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>>2351792
MY DICK!
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>>2351792
Nice rendering on the ass, but the fucked up foreshortening of the arm and hand makes this look like a polished turd. Sorry for the bluntness.
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>>2351854

Is there anyone in the world that can get foreshortening absolutely right, though?
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>>2351871
Hahaha. What kind of question is this. Of course there is.
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>>2351871
Proof that you have shit taste in artists.
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>>2351854
Yea, you're fucking right, I was just so lazy to trying to do a decent hand and the arm just.. Fuck im the worst, i have a hard time trying to render :|, im really new to digital.
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Fixed most of the stuff you people mentioned (at least I think so), thanks for that, and started coloring. See anything that rustles your jimmies?
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>>2350598
>>2351257
>>2351260
Thanks for these pointers guys. Will try to make good use of them.
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this thread is so dead
y?
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>>2352110
Hey, I just wanted to say that even though there are some problems, you are far from the worst. Head up!
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>>2352703
isn't the ass too big?
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>>2352926
THE ASS IS NEVER TOO BIG FA.M
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>>2352955
HAVING SOME FUCKING SENSE AND TASTE FOR PROPORTIONS IS EVEN BETTER F.AM.
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>>2352964
thanks for the compliment
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>>2352967
i don't give compliments to people that don't have >SOME FUCKING SENSE AND TASTE FOR PROPORTION
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>>2352923
t-thanks bro, im so far away from where I want to get but i'll keep trying =)
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>>2352992
Anon who actually drew it here, your personal taste is fine but not really a critique I can use.
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Is this pose dynamic enough?
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>>2353152
yea,
but I would mover her ear down and to the right a bit.
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>>2353152
not particularly, there's barely an s-curve. Push the squash and stretch in the torso. Some overlap would help too, try leaning the figure forward in back in space.
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>>2353203
>Push the squash
Sir you need to leave the vegetables alone
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>>2353203
What do you mean by "push the squash" senpai?
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>>2353152
You don't have enough experience and thus skill to do confident poses from memory. You have to internalize anatomy and refine your gesture, to be able to do that. And no, telling you what you did wrong with this single pic, won't help you achieve that. You have to grind, and based on your current level I'd say you'll need lots of that. 1000 more studies from references is an example.
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>>2353290
this should be a pasta reply
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>>2353290
You are fucking useless.
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>>2353290
>tips gestora
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>>2353290
>So full of himself that he over uses commas to make his post seem more eloquent
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>>2353291
Yeah, I believe so too. Each of these threads should have such a disclaimer.
>>2353304
Nah, I'm simply speaking reason. I understand that beginners might be unwilling to listen to someone saying they should simply practice more, but that's the best fucking advice anyone can get. If someone posts a picture that is so fundamentally flawed, that the only way to make it good is to start from scratch, giving specific advice about parts of it only shows that the person who is giving such advice is a beginner too.
The pic we are talking about falls in that category, and that's it. If I wanted to do a redline of it, I would have to redo the complete pose. And even then that person simply wouldn't have enough knowledge to understand what did I actually correct.
I might sound snobbish, but my advice is simply a better one if this guy wants to improve his drawing skills.
People should realize that being a good artist isn't something easy, and good illustrations aren't born from playing around and having fun while learning. Nope, sorry guys, it doesn't work like that.
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>>2353316
English isn't my first language, plus I'm just an illustrator, I'm dumb when it comes to grammar.
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>>2353317
Nah, you sound like a right prat.
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>>2353317
>People should realize that being a good artist isn't something easy, and good illustrations aren't born from playing around and having fun while learning. Nope, sorry guys, it doesn't work like that.
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>>2353322
I might sound like that, but I'm saying the truth. Sorry for making averyone's butts ache in pain or something.
I'm trying to help anon and maybe also anyone else here that is starting art. I'm not trying to make people stop doing art. Spoon feeding and hugboxes are simply counterproductive when it comes to improving in any given field, so I rather make it harsh. You want to do great art one day, son? Then get ready for some pain, and not the kind of one I might have caused to the more feint of heart in this thread. Some actual excruciating fucking pain.
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>>2353331
>Art is PAIN
>NO FUN ALLOWED IN HERE SON

Who let this try hard in here?
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>>2353317
No one needs you spouting common knowledge bullshit. If you aren't going to show the guy what he did wrong and point him in the right direction via redline or suggesting books and study material, shut up and draw. Your input is worthless.
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>>2353342
But anon, drawing is pain
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>>2353334
>>2353354
Art per se is not pain. Drawing per se is not pain. Getting gud at it is pain.

Please guys, try not to be so butthurt. It might help you realize I'm not the one talking bullshit here.

>>2353342
I gave him better advice than these people:
>>2353153
>I would mover her ear down and to the right a bit.
No shit f.am. When you are at it move it down-right enough that it slides out of the frame alongside the rest of the body. Then they'll have an empty canvas to start over.
>>2353203
>Push the squash, s-curve
Yeah, that's the main problem. Let's break the anatomy some more. Then they'll be able to sell it as cubism.

Seriously guys. STOP GIVING BEGINNERS BAD ADVICE.
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>>2353357
>Getting this mad at some guy's rough sketch

Ok, Illustrator fag, we get it. You're the best.
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>>2353361
>You're the best.
That's the main cancer that afflicts your heads. You always start feeling endangered by other people. I got out of my way to give the guy some advice. I wanted to help the guy.
But nooooo, I'm here just to have a trip. I'm here to make everyone realize how good and knowledgeable I am.
Yeah, that must be it. I am trying to have a trip on an anonymous board.

Can you be any more dumb?
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>>2353367
>I got out of my way to give the guy some advice. I wanted to help the guy.
All youve done is belittle him and say that he has a long road of "pain and no fun" ahead of him. Yeah you're really helping him, such a hero
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>>2352424
The one on the left.
Her mouth and chin.
It looks like a fish mouth with a chin attached to it.
Please fix the chin.
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>>2353368
>belittle him
Oh wow.
>You don't have enough experience and thus skill to do confident poses from memory.
>based on your current level I'd say you'll need lots of grinding
Yeah, I literally raped them. All my keks.

If they're not able to take such a critique, then it probably is better for them to stop doing art as soon as possible. And I guess the same applies to you and all other anons that might have identified with the guy.
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>>2353357
>I gave him better advice than these people
No, you didn't. You just said "it's wrong". You didn't say how. You didn't provide examples. You didn't even reference books or artists for study material since you wanted to be a lazy shit and not red line. Your input was just as worthless as the rest. No one needed it, You just spouted common knowledge shit as if that would make you look intelligent. You're an idiot.
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>>2353372
>then it probably is better for them to stop doing art as soon as possible. And I guess the same applies to you and all other anons that might have identified with the guy.
>My advice is clearly the end all be all
>Lol, if you cant even handle it, you should quit drawing all together.
>All you anons are just assmad
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>mfw i get home and see this pile of horse shit

...I uh, figured out what was wrong with it anyway. Boobs were in the wrong place and the raised arm was at the wrong height, as well as the belly button. Just gonna... go ahead and fix that later. Thanks to >>2353203
>>2353153 for the input.
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>>2353290
Finally someone posts something that makes some sense.
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>>2353383
See anons. That's what I was talking about. This person actually thinks this are the main problems with his pic
>Boobs were in the wrong place and the raised arm was at the wrong height, as well as the belly button

I am over with giving advice to beginners. It's just a waste of time.
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>>2353418
>I am over with giving advice to beginners.

see >>2353375
Fuck off. You're useless.
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>all those triggeret faggots itt because of >>2353290

the truth is, the sooner you realise this, the sooner youll be set on the path to making it

the truth hurts, get over it
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>>2353438
>triggered
>implying

He's being made fun of for saying the most basic common knowledge shit as if it's actually insightful.
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>>2353291
>>2353304
>>2353311
>>2353316
he's not wrong
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>Leaves thread for like 3 hours after like half a day of slow traffic, sees trolling and pointless arguments, AGAIN.

Never change 4chan.
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>>2353369
That is supposed to be a lip bite. Some other people already mentioned that part was unclear, so I changed it. Pic related.
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>>2353453
funny how nobody seems to ever utilize that knowledge
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>>2353488
you suck
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>>2353513
Yes, and that goes for all subjects
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>>2353516
I know. I am nowhere near being as good as I want. Until then I'll just call it a job.
Keep up with the feedback you_suck anon.
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>>2353513
Art is a process dumbfuck. Even with that knowledge, which is common sense, you don't go from stick figures to Kim Jung Gi level of construction and confidence over night or even in a year. You have to study and grind for multiple years. People work at different paces and are at different stages of their development. All of this should go without saying though, that's why that comment was worthless and why people were making fun of him.
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>>2353543
ok, you convinced me to save it as pasta
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>>2353543
So you are basically saying that any kind of advice here given to a beginner is worthless? You seem like someone who knows what they are saying, so you probably realize that a redline of that pic, which would have to be drawn from scratch, or detailed explanation of all the mistakes are just a waste of time on someone who needs to practice fundamentals instead of drawing porn? You do, do you?
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I am trying to get more into rendering and for now I'm not able to see the mistakes here, or the ones I can, don't know how to fix them.
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>>2353554

What I'm saying is if you're not trying to lead someone in the right direction in their learning process, be it specific comments, a red line, or suggesting relevant reference material for study, you're useless. Studying and practicing fundamentals should be done in tandem with whatever the hell else you're drawing. It doesn't matter what the subject matter is.
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>>2353598
>implying you're actually him
anon please fuck off
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>>2353598
go be pathetic someplace else
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>>2353601
So you are saying what I said is true. This thread is basically pointless for beginners. It actually makes a lot of sense, since you have to be at least at an intermediate level to be able to draw porn.
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>>2353655
>what is reading comprehension?
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>>2353660
>giving advice to people who will never understand the advice you are giving them because they are complete beginners
Yep, pointless.
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>>2353662
But yeah, at least it's fun to read the useless advice beginners give to their beginner buddies. It cracks me up every time.
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>>2353662
Every thread on /ic/ that isn't a resource thread is pointless.
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>>2353636
Him? What the.. I'm not pretending to be anybody, just want some critique.
>>2353653
Huh, that's not constructive at all.
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>>2353762
Red line would be useless without you knowing your fundamentals
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>>2353762
That's the most horrifying pussy I've ever seen.
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Guys I'm in a bad spot financially and need some quick cash. Is it shameful to do a lewd sketch sale stream?
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i tried an ahegao
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>>2353923
not worth red lining without even knowing your funamentals
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>>2353863
absolutely useless post.
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>>2353863
>>2353931
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My drawings are pretty shitty atm. Do you think it is worth it to go ahead and try to actually render and colour an image like this or should I keep practicing to get basic construction right?
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>>2354029
Bro you need to grind like, 1000000 gestures. You don't have enough experience and thus skill to do confident poses from memory. You have to internalize anatomy and refine your gesture, to be able to do that. And no, telling you what you did wrong with this single pic, won't help you achieve that. You have to grind, and based on your current level I'd say you'll need lots of that.
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>>2354030
Looks fine to me. Nerd.
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>>2354032
You want to do great art one day, son? Then get ready for some pain, and not the kind of one I might have caused to the more feint of heart in this thread. Some actual excruciating fucking pain.
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>>2353863
>>2353931
>>2354030
Nice sarcasm. The most amusing part to me is that what you wrote is completely true, even though idiots like you are unaware of it. Keks were had, thanks.
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>>2354029
Keep practicing.
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>>2354056
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>>2354061
Sorry I ruined your delusions about becoming a good artist without having to learn how to draw.
Do what people like you always do. Close your browser and forget about all my posts. That's the best way to cure your butt irritation.
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is this arrogant critique guy just talking to himself?
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>>2354082
Now I'm talking to you. Before I was talking to that other guy?
The question is, who are YOU talking to.
What's wrong, kid? You need your little lazy artists wannabe buddies that you are right and you are all gonna make it without practice. You are so fucking afraid I might be right, that you need a support group. Man up and stop being so damn pathetic.
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>>2350108
thanks a million, guys. i appreciate it. i'm having a tough time learning to draw clothes after approx 97 years of drawing everyone naked
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>>2354111
>2354056
Bro your fundamentals.
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>>2353878
Depends if yur art is good enough.
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>>2354151
I'm not sure what the connection is. I figure if it's shameful it would be equally shameful for someone who's not that good to beg as it would be for someone who is good to beg. Both are still beggars. The quality of art probably only changes the likelihood of actually getting some takers.
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>>2354111
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>>2354164
?
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>>2354082
That arrogant critique guy is the best and worst thing to appear in this thread I've ever seen. He rivals even the you_suck anon in useless posting. But at least you_suck anon is more charming to read though.
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any ideas?
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I want to draw something porny but I have no inspiration, any suggestions?
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Not sure what hairstyle I want to give her yet.
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>posting barefoot waifu
Will probably take a hike to the beginner thread now that I've been torn a new asshole, being that there are quite a few issues with my art. Posting this now because its about as good as ill be assed to do right now.
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>>2354255
>alternate version
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>>2354194
what do you tell your mom if she ever asks to see your art. Or literally anyone,

"oh I draw furry dicks it's my passion"

Never understood porn art. Gotta have absolutely no fucking shame or dignity.
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Alright I'm just gonna fucking do it. I spent all day screwing with picarto and other shit to set it all up so I might as well. Is it better to have people pay some set amount for a sketch or better to just draw whatever people are suggesting freely and encourage people to donate whatever they feel like?
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>>2354230
Decided to be an autist and just make it my oc. Not sure if this looks better or worse now.

>>2354255
Cute waifu, who is she?
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>>2354262
Kamui from the new FE fates game coming out soon. I referenced her concept art and stole the rendering style for her.
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>>2354265
Oh nice, forgot that was coming out. Time to pre-order.
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>>2354269
ayy, hoping to get the special edition
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>>2354272
I was too, which is why I forgot it was coming out so soon. Since I kept waiting for one of those "now in stock" notifications from amazon.
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>>2354258
my mom knows what i'm doing. god bless your ass, sukublyadok
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this isnt very sexy but its a naked lady so im posting it in the porn thread. how do i digital
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I figure this thread is most appropriate for this pic. My goal was to have a piece that was stylized with lineart and somewhat rendered. But I couldn't get my background elements up to the same finish as the bear, which I spent most time on. After two weeks I just ran out of steam. Anyway, critique is appreciated.
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>>2354297
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>>2354304
Strangely the background looks more finished than the bear lady, but I think it turned out really nice overall.
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>>2354297
>goblin feet
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>>2354306
Lol
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>>2354304
I really like this. It's not too idealized and tells a great story. Only suggestion would be to improve how you lit the trash bags. They're rather dark.
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>>2354297
Is this actually that Brian fag or just somebody having fun at his expense?
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>>2354321
Has to be the latter but it's pretty funny either way.
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hello here i have confidant pose. Is the gesture internalized enough to have 1000 anatomy? I hope my current level is refined.
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>>2354365
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>>2353152
Listen to the Anon that explained to you about the squash and stretch to help you show a dynamic form.
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>>2354460
Bro where the hell are your fundamentals
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>>2354258
>I'm afraid of doing something I like because society
>I can't hide any aspect of myself from society
Maybe lay down the facebook for a few days anon?
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Just posted this in the self promotion thread.
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>>2354258
I have no shame, and I don't think you know what dignity is.
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>>2354311

Thanks man. I wish I did more work on the trashbags and rats.

>>2354319
Yeah! I'm glad you like the story. I tried going for small reads within the big read. I'm not that great at the technical stuff so I try doing well in the storytelling at least. Even if it is just cheesecake/smut drawing.
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Do you guys ever use reference from porn videos?

Sometimes when I'm whacking it, I have to stop and analyze a video because there's a great position or gesture in it that i want to draw later. Kinda ruins the boner, but it's good reference for sexy poses.
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>>2354194
Here's an example of someone who knows his fundamentals, but is still reaching perfection. This guy could use some critique, and will probably be able to apply it, to make his art look better, even though it already is solid.
Do you get it now, suckers?

Sorry for using you as an example anon. I am just fed up with people who don't understand the simple concept that beginners shouldn't even be in this thread.
I really like your pics and I think I am seeing lots of progress just from the last thread already.
One advice I could give you is to try to use more variation in your line weight.
The contour lines are already stronger than some construction lines, but I'd suggest you ditch the construction lines entirely and try to use more variation on the contours alone. For example apply heavier lines on the objects that are closer, to achieve better depth, and try to give more tension to round objects by thinning the middle part of those lines. See the redline addendum for that.
As for anatomy and perspective you did a great job with this one. There are small errors but they aren't big deal breakers. Check the quick redline regarding those.
Keep it up anon, you are doing great.
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>>2354657
This fucking try hard. Jesus
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>>2354692
It hurts, doesn't it?
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>>2354657

You messed up senpai. The left arm of the white female is very long now.

Also, nice critique. This is my first time in these threads, but it's nice to see people aren't intoxicated with sex appeal and actually do care about the art itself.
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>>2354692
Different anon, but idk man, either he wants people to get good, or he's trying to prove a point?
Plus his line weight looks inspired by western comic so.

>>2354695
>Dick riding
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>>2354702
>You messed up senpai. The left arm of the white female is very long now.
You are right, I see it too now. Demon futas anon, just keep your arm, but make it rest on the futa demon's thigh a bit better.
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>>2354692
>butt frustrated by an actual critt.
there is nothing try hard about someone with superior knowledge deciding to put in
FREE work and help out other peeps.
you sir are a rude faggot.
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>>2354657
>tries to redline
>fucks up
>claims critique on /ic/ are for intermediates only
>implying if a beginner isn't able to use and apply critique right at the moment he gets it, he can't save it for notes for later use.

This is literally what you're saying and you're the only truly toxic one here. You're trying to treat this thread as a special boys club. You might as well slap on a trip to your posts. What's funny is any truly solid intermediate worth his lick of salt wouldn't be on /ic/ looking for critique in the first place because pros, the people above their level, don't waste their time browsing this place. You really don't seem to understand how much of a fool you're making yourself out to be.
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>>2354710
He was probably referring to all my bitching from yesterday. I am aware my attitude may rustle a lot of people's jimmies, especially the beginner's, but I really don't give a shit anymore. The sooner these beginners will understand they need to practice a lot more than they actually do and that spoon feeding isn't going to help them to get good, the better it will be for them.
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>>2354715
>You're trying to treat this thread as a special boys club.
Here's where you are wrong. I am not saying THIS thread alone is for at least intermediate users. I am saying PORN is too hard for beginners, and that they should first get their fundamentals in order if they want to achieve better, but most importantly FASTER results.
I don't care if I sound rude or arrogant. That's just a way to wake up people.

Also, I didn't try to redline. I did redline. That fuckup is not a big deal since the guy has enough knowledge to understand where I did fuck up and where I helped him with the perspective. Which is everything else.
Anon, it is time to stop being butthurt and start getting better at drawing.
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>>2354719
>I am aware my attitude may rustle a lot of people's jimmies

Your attitude only shines light on your own frustrations and incompetence as an artist. It's pretty common among intermediate level artists who aren't pro level, like you. So you take out on people worse than you. You're shit.
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>>2354726
That's not my intention, plus I am doing perfectly fine atm and I'm not frustrated about my art at all.
I'm not posting these comments to feel better about myself. I do art to feel better about myself.
But yeah, I am sure you'd be very happy if I left this thread, so you could keep sucking each other's beginner dicks off and keep peacefully living in denial thinking you can actually draw porn. Sorry matey, not gonna happen.
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>>2354742
When you fart, do you huff it or bottle it up?
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>>2354742
>That's not my intention
I have no reason to believe this based on your showcase in this thread. You displayed the opposite.

>I am doing perfectly fine atm and I'm not frustrated about my art at all.
So you've stagnated and don't intend on improving past intermediate status. Got it.

>I'm not posting these comments to feel better about myself.
Kek, you aren't fooling anyone with this lie.

>I am sure you'd be very happy if I left this thread
You're free to waste your time here, which is what you're doing based on your own logic. I'm just called a spade a spade.
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>>2354751
>I'm just called a spade a spade.
>spade

Odd way to type "Faggot"
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>>2354753
>Odd way to type "Faggot"
Looks like I goofed.
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>>2354757
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>>2354746
I fart very rarely, but when I do, you know that rainbow outside your house on a nice rainy day? That's me.
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>>2354751
Those are all your assumptions. Just as my assumptions are that you are butthurt, because you are a total beginner and me being here lowers the value of your "work".
Let's just keep assuming and having fun, or wasting our time as you like to say.
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>>2354764
>>2354751
>>2354657
>Guy literally spends two days trying to prove himself better than anyone else in this thread
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>>2354773
>I'm not doing it to feel better about myself.
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here's the finished version, wish i had time to revise and ink this drawing. oh well, moving on
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>>2354783
>Not Worth My Self Valued Time/10
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>>2354786
i used to polish a lot but now that i'm trying to get good i'd rather move onto the next piece
sage
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>>2354773
Take your insecurities somewhere else, cancer.
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>>2354790
Good decision. Polishing something that has evident fundamental flaws is a waste of time. You'll get better a lot quicker if you either try to draw something else or draw this one from scratch trying to think about what you did wrong in your first attempt.
I suggest you also spend more time in the construction phase of your sketches. The end result will be less flat.
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>>2354783
stop using that god awful manga shading texture
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this thread gave my dog cancer
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>>2354821
Yeah, it gives it to anyone who doesn't have a clue about drawing.
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>>2354806
thanks~
i recently learned a new way to construct faces so i'm giving it a try, i've seen some improvement!

>>2354812
desu i dunno how to use tones in MG5. I think the problem is i'm working at low res (144p) and the tones are optimized for 350ppi
i think,,,
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>>2354265
but im working on that anon.
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>>2354833
Bastard, my dog is dead now. You hear me? DEAD.
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>>2354865
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>>2354849
You and your turd polishing. Oh fuck it. Keep it up, you are doing great! <3<3<3

>>2354865
Sorry for your loss.
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>>2354849
how dare you start painting with such a vague sketch scum ?
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>>2354914
all your sarcasm aside, this is completely true
look at how shitty dose tits look like, because he can't into gravity and soft tissues.
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>>2354914
isnt that hard, i only scratch the shit as guide, then i just paint over fixing shit.
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>>2354993
>fixing shit
and failing at it miserably
thanks for the keks fa.m
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>>2354764
>Those are all your assumptions.
None of those were assumptions. You exposed it yourself with your posts in this thread. It's funny that you're trying to save face though. Get a trip. You deserve it.
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>>2349907
too bad you cant fucking draw. are her hands broken???
>>2354297
i have no mouth but i must scream
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>>2354724
>I am saying PORN is too hard for beginners
>implying

Explain why it is that novice and dead end intermediate artists always end up there can call it a wrap after they get a degenerate fanbase? There are a multitude of subject matter too hard for beginners, porn is hardly one of them.
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May animate this girl.
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>>2355119
(in a non shitposting way) Do you have a blog/tumblr?
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>>2355125
:^)
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>>2355125
http://www.hentai-foundry.com/user/Faio/profile
only my gifs are up there so far.
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>>2355119
Sir, are you not aware this is an intermediate+ zone?
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Line art done, have to color. Also realized I need to practice hands. Anything else stick out as well? Probably won't fix it current picture but it give me an idea on what I need to focus on and study harder.
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>>2355237
Need to study your fundamentals of anatomy bro. Clearly you need to grind out 4000 gestures
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im going sleep. spot stuff m80s.
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>>2355236
They probably don't want porn in the beginner thread.
>>2355237
I think her head's a little small but I tend to draw heads too big so I could be wrong.
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>>2355254
You could be right? Sometimes I make the heads too big then try to down size them because they look off. Maybe I made it too small? Thanks for the feedback.
>>2355243
I read that as 40,000 not 4,000. Arguably that's better than I thought at first glance.
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>>2355261
Don't listen to him he's just ass blasted from the shitstorm before.
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>>2355251
Fuh duh mentahls
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>>2355276
f-fus-r-roh-dah
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>>2353488
Full picture?
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>>2351792

Of all the pictures in this thread, this is the one I keep remembering

I really, really, really like this image
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>>2355508
Please get better taste.
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>>2355514
Not him, but it IS the best pic in this thread so far.
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>>2355538
nah >>2354869 is the best pic so fuck outta here with your shit taste
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>>2355547
Agreed, how can a dog be so sexy?
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>>2355251
got a blog?
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>>2352424
The girl resting up against the fireplace is fine.

The other girl behind her with the strapon/dragoncock/whatever is not.

What the hell are you doing with that girl's leg? It looks like you're got her hooking her left leg around the other girl's leg/thigh. Why? If the dragon lady is gonna do some fucking, both feet should be planted on the ground. How is she gonna move. The best she can do is balance on her one leg.

Change up the pose.
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I think I'm gonna take a break since I can tell I'm trying to rush it. Need to fix skin/redo skin. (I hate when you finally notice what's wrong and it isn't till you're coloring.)
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>>2355592
blog?
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>>2355592
Her torso looks long and her face is quite squished.
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>>2355592
the head and face are shockingly small and out of proportion my man
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>>2355600
>>2355603
Yea I noticed that upon coloring. Someone noted the head looked small but I didn't realize just how badly it looked until coloring. Or maybe you're right and it's the torso. It's probably all of the above. Shhhiiit. About the face being squished do you mean too close together or something else? Later when I have more energy. I'll see if I can fix it.
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>>2355508
>>2355538

Thanks both, i'll try bringing something better next time, i really need to find out a good way of rendering shit without struggling.

>>2355514
dead dogs are your fetish?
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Don't feel like finishing this desu
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>>2355592
>catgirls trapped in gooey shit


Right in the fetish
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>>2355575
Nah, sorry, I like the interaction the way it is now. So does the client. Plus if you think such a pose is not good for having sex in that position, I must say you don't have a lot of experience. If Anything maybe the anatomy is still a bit broken, but the pose per se is completely functional.
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>>2355592
>>2355599
>>2355600
>>2355603
>>2355853
Does really no one of you guys see how broken that left hand is?
Please man, fix that thing.

>>2355508
>>2355538
Same here. How do you manage not to see how broken that foreshortening of the torso and hand is? Need glasses, or maybe some better artist eyes?
>>2355694
>i really need to find out a good way of rendering shit without struggling.
Dude, first of all you need to get better at foreshortening, not rendering. Trying to hide turds by polishing them is not gonna help you in the long run.
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>>2355553
got a crit ?
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>>2355467
Not finished of course. Still have a lot of work to do.
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>>2355894
>>2355251
I have one. The perspective throughout the entire pic is not well defined. Their faces and heads suggest that the horizon is slightly above their heads, but their bodies aren't affected by this. And vice versa, the bodies suggest that the horizon is somewhere at waist level, which should affect more the upper part of the bodies, especially their heads and faces. Otherwise I don't see any major errors. Maybe just the foreshortening of the right girl's arm, which could be pushed more in the foreground, but that's a nit pick imo. Well, for the standards of these threads, my entire post is nitpicking probably. Just keep doing what you are doing and you'll start seeing all these perspective anomalies on your own very soon.
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Inked this by taking in account your crits. Did I still miss anything important? I feel their heads are pushed too much into perspective. Is this just my imagination, or should I redraw them?
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>>2355906
Not feeling the left leg of FG chick and her torso is kind of small?

What do you think?
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>>2355903
thats what i get for not putting persp guidelines.
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>>2355910
I'll keep this in mind thanks. Right now I don't see it, but stuff like this pops out when I block in the colors and start shading. Thanks!
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>>2355906
I really don't get what's going on with her vagina, it looks like a horizontal gnawing mouth. Come to think of it, that dick looks missplaced too (too low and a bit too far on the right?) angle of the stomach bulge kinda doesnt make sense either
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>>2355890
>Trying to hide turds by polishing them is not gonna help you in the long run.
Not any of them but I disagree. Rendering is the only thing people care about. Note I'm not saying it's the only thing that matters in art, not even that it's the most important. It gets the most attention though and realistically, it's taken some pretty bad art pretty damn far.
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>>2355946
Bad art is still bad art. Normies won't probably notice it, but people who know their shit will. The question here is only if this guy wants to create good art or just sell mediocre porn.
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>>2355935
You are right about the placement of the penis. Will fix that, thanks.
The bulge is from the sperm, not the penis.
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>>2355949
That is the question, isn't it? I had written a whole diatribe in that post but decided to save it. As much as I hate it, there's a Romantic Reality and a Commercial reality when it comes to art, at least as I see it. Basically, if you want to impress other artists (and if it fulfills you) become a craftsman. If you want to sell things, go for the icing and skimp on the cake. Again I don't like it but I think focusing on commercialism is a valid choice. All that matters is what your goals are in the end, you can't really live your life worrying too much about how people will judge you. I will say though, that if you come to a board specifically about craftsmanship in art you can't really expect to skate by on the excuse that you just want to make money. This place is mainly focused on critique beyond superficial goals so people are going to bring it up anyway.
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>>2355952
Good point. Which makes me think. Is it possible to achieve both? That's what I'm aiming at, but not really sure if that's the right approach. I want to sell my porn (or keep selling it) but still create good art in the process. Is something like this even possible with a genre that relies so much on impulse and first impact? Is this just dumb thinking? Is it better to just aim for the money delivering more at a lower quality, or does good art have a bigger impact on the masses and in the long run could give you better financial stability and not just more personal satisfaction?
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>>2355957
This is why these threads are probably the only ones where this discussion is truly relevant. Porn already has an expectation of just being a moneymaker, and I feel like it's generally thought of as being cheap and shoddy already anyway. The works that aren't cheap and shoddy always seem to either be so well crafted that they somehow aren't seen as porn anymore, even though they depict sex or nudity or what have you. I think it's because they're either more expensive or just generally rare, which is probably because it's hard to produce well made art so you just have a smaller pool anyway. Or, like Necro's stuff, well made but streamlined so it has max appeal and min production time, but that runs the risk of not satisfying the artist. I want to believe you can but it's hard to see how a solid, sustainable balance is possible.
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>>2355968
Just in case it wasn't clear my point with this post was, since it's difficult to balance quality and quantity with porn, and quality against demand, you really have to plan which route you're going to focus on, because the audiences and options for each route are vastly different. Most other art fields I don't excuse it, but with lewd art, I can understand taking the commercial route.
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>>2355952
>>2355957
>>2355968
>>2355972

Porn is and always has been commercial. If you're trying to make it "more than that" you're pretty retarded because it's not going to happen. No one gives a shit. Even other artists will look at you and consider your talent a waste on such a bottom of the barrel subject matter. Your efforts are better spent elsewhere. Stop being a horny sex deprived faggot and draw other shit than just porn.
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