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Name a single thing he did wrong.
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Lose power.
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>>826812
Get older
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Could you explain the helicopter meme pls?
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>>826985
He captured commie scum and threw them off helicopters.
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>>826812
Pinochet was a model for all Latin American military juntas
RIP in peace real human bean
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>>826812
He was corrupt and stole a lot of money.

Many of the "commie" he killed or tortured were not communist at all but just famous artists the regime felt were "popular".

His regime burned books. They burned books on cubism -the artistic movement- because they stupidly thought it was related to Cuba.

He killed women and children with unnecessary violence. This helicopter meme you talk about: they opened the womb of pregnant women before throwing them alive to the sea.

Ask any non Poltard Chilean for more information.
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>>827755
damn
he's greater than i knew
are there more news of his feats?
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>>826812
This muthafucka spilled milk all over the floor the morning of his 11th birthday
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die
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>>827755
>He was corrupt and stole a lot of money.

Commies always throw this accusation against their enemies, with no proof. That's how they convinced the U.S. to cease support for the Nationalists in China, for example, by claiming that Chiang kai-shek was "corrupt", so they should just let the communists win because they were "honest". As a result, dozens of millions died.
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>>828774

Except you know, Stilwell, the American senior military official in China, was backing it up, what with all the Lend-Lease arms miraculously disappearing, sometimes even being captured by the Japanese they were supposed to be fighting.

The KMT was corrupt as all fuck, and completely ineffective to boot. And if by some miracle they had managed to come out on top, they'd also be offing dozens of millions. The "Bandit pacification campaigns" killed like 2 million, and were concentrated only in a relatively small part of China over a short period of time. Imagine what decades of control over a larger area would do.
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>>828809
Stilwell was fed information by known communist agents such as Edgar Snow and Owen Lattimore.

That is, of course, if we don't agree with the Birchers that he was communist himself. Anything was possible.
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>>826812


He allowed democracy to happen, which of course shot him in the foot and in later years is sliding chile into being just another commi-lite shithole like the rest of sudamerica.
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>>827755
>They burned books on cubism -the artistic movement- because they stupidly thought it was related to Cuba.
all of my kekkles
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Didn't go all in on exports, now chile has a few rich cities but is otherwise not huge.
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>>826812
Gave asylum to Honnecker, a COMMUNIST dictator. Oh the ironing.
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>>829769
That wasn't Pinochet, he was already out of office by the time Honecker applied for asylum.
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>>826812
Ordered a terrorist attack inside the US. An american civilian died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Orlando_Letelier
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>>826812
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>>826812
Can't say much. I guess the 2500 people he killed were not all devilish commies.
Other than that pretty good.
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Hide bodies better.
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>>829835
Not fair! Casto is wearing lifts.
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>>828016
Everybody has those days.
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He didn't live forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM

;_;
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Are there any good non-biased and factual books on Pinochet?
Way to many of them are clearly written by booty blasted leftists with titles that may as well read "Pinochet: The Baby Eating Devil"
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>>827755
>His regime burned books. They burned books on cubism -the artistic movement- because they stupidly thought it was related to Cuba.

I really hope this is true.
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>>834478
Well that happens when crude brutes take over a country. Also classic russian authors like Tolstoi or Dostoievski were censored because Russia = Commie
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>>834508
Yeah, i'm not for book burning at all but I find the ignorance amusing.
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>>834508
You mean.. Russia =\= Commie?

>HOOOOOL UP!
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>>834508
>>834478
>>827755
And not a single Proofs was posted that day
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Killed people
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>>838387
Commies are not people anon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJK0OGlhKF4
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The animosity towards Pinochet among Chileans seems to stem from the feeling that he ruined a revolution.

People were generally glad that he ousted Allende and undid the course the county was going down. However, he followed that up by staying in power and using less-than-legal means to persecute his enemies (both real and perceived), all while sowing the seeds for much of the corruption we see in Chile today.

So while he may have saved Chile, he also created many lingering problems that outlasted him.

Probably just as bad was the politicization of patriotism and the military. Any nationalistic sentiment is now associated with Pinochet, so unless you're fairly right-leaning, it's considered bad to be too pro-Chile.
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>>838533
Pretty much this.

Pinochet was so bad that Allende went from "incompetent commie" to "national martyr".
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While he dramatically changed the economy, Pinochet leaved Allende nationalization of copper intact. And that´s why Chile has the best armed forces in South America: copper money.
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>>827066
sometimes they were drugged or unconscious as well
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>>839069
ehh only if you're far left. From what I gathered when I was in Chile recently, the feeling seemed to be that Pinochet was bad, but Allende was worse.
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>>826812
He never went on a single war of conquest.
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>>826812
He drove the economy into more shit than Allende until Milton Friedman wrung him by the neck and called him a dumbass. Pinochet succeeded despite his Junta personality because his government got the best and brightest forcing it to liberalize.
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He BTFO every other south american shithole making Chile a 1st world country by applying a realistic policy. Left scum cry about muh human rights considering that all leftist shitholes are ten times worse and can't even benefit from the dictatorship.
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>>826812
GODDAMNIT GO BACK TO /POL/!!!
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>>829835
Castro is a big guy
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How is Chile doing nowadays?
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>>844089
Quite well and reaching 1st world. Income gap is still quite big tho.
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>>829724
commie? Chile??? really? REALLY?
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>>829724
Chilean Communist Party doesn't even reach 2% of the total votes, meanwhile the UDI (which was created by Pinochet's political mastermind) is one of the biggest parties in the country, and the party that gets the most votes in the proletarian population.

Yeah, you don't know shit.
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>>826812

>Name a single thing he did wrong

He existed, thus fueling even further the autism and edginess of /pol/tards.

Seriously, just fuck off to your containment board already.
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>>845378
If he is pol then so is stalin, lenin, mao, and Marx.
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>>845677
Yes, they are all /pol/ or /leftypol/.
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>>845677

at least /leftypol/ doesn't shove it's edgyness in every single fucking board on this (or other) chan.
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>>845899
Holy fuck, yes it does.
Anytime anyone says anything remotely right-wing /leftypol/ has a fucking conniption. Don't pretend.
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>>828003
>>829749
>believing "facts" posted without citations on 4chan
jfc
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>>846372
But those are not just stories. Have you at least read the Informe Valech?
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>>826812
Did not kill enough spanish and hungarian anarco-commies
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>he
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>>826812
Did somebody say PINOSHIT?
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>>846587
Why bring up the fact friedman was jewish? Almost every major economist that founded movements was Jewish (Mises, Marx, Rand, Milton, ect). The only exception I can think of is Keynes, and his economics are hated by both ends of the policy spectrum (Free market, and socialist).
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>>846599
>Socialists hate Keynesianism

opinion discarded
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>>826985
he basically tortured thousands of chileans on the american dime for years, threw them out of helicopters and walked away scot free. This guy is like the anticommunist variant of moon man
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>>826812
Alowed elections
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>>846611
> I think anyone that doesn't masturbate with an invisible hand is a socialist and don't realize that Keynesianism is market stimulus, not seizing means of production.

I'll grant you that Keynesian economies often seize the commanding heights, but that's a symptom, not a trait, of socialism
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>>848243

fuck, meant to say

Name a single thing Pinochet did wrong
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>>848243
Pinochet is one of the most unfairly demonized leaders of the 20th century. The same people who try to act like killing 20 million people is just as commendable as killing 40 million people (as long as it's done in the name of economic progress under a proletariat-driven state-centered model) like to act as if killing 3,000 Communists is as bad as the Holodomor.
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>>838375
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>>848275

I've not even said a thing about Stalin, or anyone else for that matter. I thought that we were talking about Pinochet here. Why do you chose to to re-direct the topic?

And even so, does it mean that I consider Stalin a fine man, because I dislike Pinochet? Couldn't it possibly be that I dislike both?
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>>848315
You gotta love /pol/ telling chileans why Pinochet was great.
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>>848375
even among the Chileans the perception is very, very mixed. .The Left still hates him, while the Right still loves him. Only problem now is that his legacy politicized nationalism and the military, so any patriotism or military service associates one with the Right.
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>>848375
Never siad he was good/bad
He just happen like our dictator
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>>826812

He didn't kill enough communists. I recognize that is a monumental task because they spawn so quickly, but he could have done better.

I guess you just hold the ones you love to a higher standard. :3
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Nothing. Lefties are scum that deserve to die.
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>>848321
I wasn't calling you one of those people, I was trying to explain to you the recent discursive explosion of Pinochet support on this South Sudanese claymation forum. If you're a tankie you're slime, that's all I have to say about it.
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>>826812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9IHUhwNOKM
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>>848399
Completely agree.
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>>848442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I71VX5RyGA

Who the fuck makes these videos?
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>>838375
I guess all the Chilean refugees granted asylum from government persecution in Europe back in those days were just a figment of everyone's imagination then
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>>844089

pretty fucked.

Chinese market crashing means no one will buy copper in large enough quantities to make up for it, and Peru is starting to produce much more cheaply. The government chose the worse possible moment to start a fiscal reform and it only takes a crisis to fuck the country up something fierce.
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Didn't kill enough gommies :DD
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>>828774

Huh actually the kuomintang and the Kai-shek family was corrupt as hell
KMT could have easily pwned the commies in the civil war and only lost ont their own fault alone, through massive corruption and internal disputes
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>>849216
Remember when Chiang looted Nanjing after VJ day?

Such a fine leader.
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>>849236
He even gave protection to japanese officials post-war and disbanded japanese soldiers in china enlisted in the kmt to fight commies
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>>849243
It actually took him a while to disband some of them. Some of them were outright pressed into service. The Japanese had orders to 'maintain order and security' until they could hand the job over to Chinese forces. Chiang took up to two years in some places to send the Japanese home, with arms shipments still moving into China during that period.
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>>849255
No, I meant that he took discharged japanese soldiers to enlist in his army to fight the commies
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>>849303
Yes. They also did that. At the same time, they also kept complete regiments in service until 1947, as members of the IJA.
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>>846599
>Rand
>economist
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