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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K63PN2bxAXE
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I half expected an Eminem song
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This is my jam
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>alt-right ""culture""
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> crusaders
> driving Islam from the Europe
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>modern male detected
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>>1337188
Out of my way roaches
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>>1337199
>alt-right namecalling

*tips
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>>1337116
Got a bit autistic but I agree that we shouldn't apologize
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Everything in that video only exists on corners of the internet. I have never seen or heard anyone doing white guilt in real life.
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>>1337219
>I have never seen or heard anyone doing white guilt in real life.
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>>1337199
> being male is bad
There is place for people like you who hate male for being males.
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>>1337116
So what did he mean that the Soviets murdered 30,000,000 of his people?

Is he a Ukrainian? A pollack? A german?
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>>1337216
Well, why should we? It isn't me who created the colonialism and slavery, it surely isn't you either, modern people are not one to blame for retarded misdeeds of the past.
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>>1337226
read the comic dummy
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>>1337223
>see it happens irl in this corner of the internet
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>>1337223
>>1337225
>posting mentally challenged americans as examples
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>>1337240
>I haven't seen it
>therefore it doesn't exist
Nice ignorance

>>1337247
>muh special pleading
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>>1337233
Well a high number of prominent Soviet communist party leaders were jews, so maybe that jews killed so many white people?
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>>1337236
My point stands. You can go on that site. Where the comics somehow literally prove anything and share all your funny comics, with other anti-male people.
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>>1337261
>playing video games and watching porn are now what are considered masculine activities
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>>1337265
> How dare they playing video games and watching porn?! Men are truly scum of the earth!
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>>1337279
No see, those things actually stunt one's masculinity.
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>>1337116
I won't apologize either.

You Westerners sacked Constantinople, allowing the Turks to easily take it later on. You Westerners then acted like you owned the world, and forced arbitrary boundaries that lacked any thought upon multiple peoples. You Westerners gave the Holy Sites of Mecca and Medina to the Saudi butchers, who to this day have kept their promise with Muhammad ibn Ê¿Abd al-Wahhab to spread Salifism, which they are doing now with YOUR tax money.

When Arab leaders tried saving their people from the shit you Westerners put them in, you Westerners assassinated them, sanctioned their economies, staged coups, and invaded their countries. You Westerners sought to destroy any opposition to your tyrannical ways, even if that put the world at danger. As such, while Iraq lay in ruins, Wahhabis armed and funded by your baby Saudi Arabia took hold in the region.

The world not only called you out on it, but they also warned you even before. Yet you Westerners did it again in Syria and Libya. And now ISIS has a strong presence in those regions and are slaughtering Christians and Muslims alike. Yet You Westerners have the audacity to claim that it's the fault of an entire faith, and that your actions have absolutely nothing to do with it.

You Westerners won't apologize. I won't apologize either when I'm laughing at the decay of your countries as a result of your idiotic, self-serving policies. After all, you Westerners brought it upon yourselves.
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>Westerners
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>>1337292
Surely, but if everyone would disregard the Groups of men for an one or the another seemingly decent reason, men would be disregarded as a whole. By no means self-hating would help to solve a gender crisis here.
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>>1337116
Yes, good pleb, identity politics are very important
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>>1337312
Saying that watching porn is bad and playing video games is a waste of time is not the same as hating men.
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>>1337116
>i take pride in things i didn't do but i shouldn't feel ashamed about things i didn't do.


why are people so retarded ?, doesn't matter if you're white, black or asian, no one should take the blame nor take credit for things they didn't do.

how pathetic and empty does your life have to be to do that ?
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>>1337319
>Yes of course, class politics are much more important! After all, shekels are all that matters goyim! And remember, race and culture are not related whatsoever! hehehe!
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>>1337309
1. go back to /pol/
2. Even if you play into the jew conspiracy, the Westerners are still at fault like in pic related.
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>>1337329
Shabbos goyim gonna shabbos goyim.
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>>1337321
> modern men doesn't counts!
> they waste time for porn and games!
> other men also doesn't counts!
> they waste time for smoke and booze!
With a definition of an addiction broad enough to include video games, there hardly would be men that can be taken seriously.
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>>1337326
This. Crusades was hundreds years ago and their Muslims are hardly the same one as modern one, anyway. People living in the past have no future.
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>>1337352
i think you might be assburger
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>>1337326
>i take pride in things i didn't do but i shouldn't feel ashamed about things i didn't do.

But that's not the point, retard
Rewatch the video
The point is that these things werent shameful but glorious
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>>1337366
> things werent shameful but glorious
you clearly don't understand the concept of subjectivity.

and thats beside the point.
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>>1337366
> crusades were glorious
> only on of four worked
> even that one was a huge fuck up
> but at least we destroyed Byzantium! XD
> holocaust was glorious
> because Commies killed more people! XD
> etc, etc, etc...
Most of things in the least are shame, actually.
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>>1337199
>cycling is bad
*tips hot pocket*
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>>1337376
> holocaust was glorious


alleged holocaust*
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>>1337405
You've been utterly obliterated every time this came up here before /pol/
For your own sake, just walk away
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>>1337422
> our funny comics red pill the truth!
> why nobody takes us seriously?!
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>>1337422
Oh gracious an unsourced /pol/ infographic!
Have some more
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>>1337433
>proof kike extermination was hitler's goal
>bunch of texts in English
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>>1337116
Why does this person going on about his Europe and his European people sound like an American?
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>>1337448
Because no one but americans care about sjw and far-right bullshit.

It's part of their EXXXXXXXXXXXXXTREME nature.
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>>1337445
/pol/ just stop
just stop
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>>1337447
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>>1337459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs

Educate yerself
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>>1337433
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>>1337459

>a ((())) took time to make these

lmao
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>>1337480
I accept your surrender
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>>1337116
it was really good up until it got to the jews
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>>1338064
This.
As soon as it hit Jews I vomited a little.
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Impressive video
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I wonder whether he actually pirated element3D and the optical flares plugin from VCP or if he paid for it, that would at least explain why he keeps begging for donations in his videos as of late (which is an extremely kikeish thing to do and tells me the guy actually isn't 100% idealist in his motivations)
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>>1337329
>"Westerners" are somehow at fault that jews subjugated all their host nations such as france after waterloo or the UK after cromwell or the US after the creation of the federal reserve on christmas eve 1913 shortly before they kicked off WW1 which resulted directly in the balfour declaration, partial realization of the protocols of the learned elders and the creation of pissrael
>Guys it's totally not the parasitic tick swarms' fault that its host is losing all that blood! Seriously!
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>>1337116
This video is one of the worst examples of historical revisionism I have ever seen. The author has intended to look at history solely to advance his own agenda in blatant and patently false ways. The saddest irony of this video is that there is not anything inherently wrong with the author's agenda, but the evidence and logic used to advance it is garbage. As a result, I feel torn because I am inclined to both defend and attack the author at the same time.

To start with, let's start with the author's initial claim. The author states that we often hear we must pay for the alleged wrongdoings of our Imperial past by accepting multiculturalism and immigration. He argues against white guilt and in favor of white pride. My perspective is that the author can freely advance all of these arguments without needing to falsify or obfuscate history in the process. For example, he could use the logical argument that the descendants of colonialism are not responsible for whatever alleged sins their ancestors committed. He could state that blaming an entire race for the actions of some within it is in a sense a form of racism. He could give reasons to have pride in the white race based on its various achievements. He could denounce white guilt and "white privilege" because of its various internal contradictions. The author's refusal to apologize for "who we are" is not inherently flawed because the author could argue that he did not personally involve himself in any of the supposed sins of his ancestors, ergo why should he or any other white person have to apologize? He could argue, as he did, that this is a form of overcompensation for the historical past which ultimately leads to bad policy making.

If the author had simply decided to stick to that claim without reviewing and revising much of history to suit it, I would have agreed entirely with the video. But then the author delves into pure fantasy, conspiracy theory and outright nonsense historical claims.

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The first historical argument the author makes is that he is not sorry for colonialism because Africans (only Africans as shown in the video) are essentially incapable of self-government. According to the author, all Africans have ever produced on their own is poverty, dictatorship, civil war and calamity. The author does not give specific examples or review counterexamples or nuances in this argument, making it entirely disingenuous. For example, Botswana did spectacularly well in the postcolonial period (presently) and has had excellent economic growth with diamond mining being its major industry. Botswana's economy is not perfect as there is high unemployment and a lack of diversification, but none of the author's claims apply to it. Other countries in the North of Africa or along coastal perimeters meet some of the author's criteria but not all, and in many cases have contributed positively to the world. Ethiopia for instance is one of the world's top coffee exporters. Outside of this, the author does not address colonialism or its negative effects anywhere else in the world (e.g. in Asia or in the Americas), nor does he address the actual effects of colonialism or the people under it. I'd say that the author was cherrypicking except he barely gives any specific examples of anything throughout the entire video. His references to Africa, and only Africa, are extremely vague aside from namedropping Robert Mugabe.

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To the charges that whites practiced slavery and that slavery is wrong, the author seemingly pleads nolo contendere. His argument hinges on the the overgeneralized argument that every race practiced slavery in one form or another. While saying this, the author only mentions a few and he is probably not correct in his sweeping and generalized claim. He is certainly right, though, that other races of people practiced slavery and sometimes to a greater extent, but this argument is essentially a red herring. It does not somehow absolve white people from having committed slavery nor does it justify the act itself. Additionally, to lump the ancestors of modern Africans or Arabs who committed slavery with the descendants of slaves in the Americas is fairly disingenuous. Once again the author has chosen to ignore Asia as well as the Americas because the author's entire conception of history is simplistic and avoids any kind of nuance.

The author argues that under white rule third world countries had a higher standard of living than they could ever produce on their own. As usual he does not give a single specific example, let alone the several examples that would be necessary, in order to prove this sweeping claim. Once again he only discusses Africa.

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The applicant states that he is not sorry for the crusades because his ancestors fought to bravely drive Islam out of Europe. To this I ask which crusades he is referring to? Certainly he is not talking about the First or Third Crusades in which Europe went on the offensive in the Middle East, the Albigensian Crusade aimed at eliminating heretic religious beliefs in France or the 4th Crusade which became a convenient excuse to pillage the defunct Byzantine Empire and sack Constantinople. The author has conveniently misled viewers into believing the crusades were aimed at stopping Islamic expansion into Europe when in many cases this was neither the legitimization nor goal of the Crusades, particularly the most famous ones. This is anachronism at its finest, with the author choosing a modern issue and projecting it back into the past falsely.

The author states that he is not sorry for Imperialism and this is probably his best argument because he argues, correctly and with specific examples (finally), other cases of Imperialism. He then makes an argument that Imperialism is not wrong inherently and that whites were simply the best Imperialists in modern times. The author then argues that the excesses of Imperialism in any case do not justify recent immigration policy, a point on which I agree.

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After having finally made a good point, the author then has to compensate with an atrocious one. He states that he is not sorry for the Holocaust and labels it as a hoax, offering no real evidence to prove his case on this matter. Instead he shows three pictures on the screen briefly with no source and tangential links to the issue. By making the assertion with such poor evidence, he has already negated his logical appeal. His next argument that the Jews murdered 30 million of "his people" in Eastern Europe is vague and predicated on fallacy. I assume that it is a reference to the Holodomor since he mentions Soviet commissars. His decision to equate Soviet commissars with Jews is silly because while many Jews were Soviets at the time, not all Soviets were Jews. To blame a Soviet and Communist mismanagement project purely on Jews is nonsense. Molotov, one of the principal figures in the event, was not a Jew for example, and neither was Stalin. For the record, Molotov did have a Jewish wife. Lenin was not Jewish either although some have claimed that one of his grandparents was. Realistically, there are probably many gentiles who have a Jewish ancestor at some point in history. It does not make them Jews. I will say that Trotsky and some of the other names he drops in the video were absolutely detestable individuals and all of them were fully Jewish (except religiously) to the best of my knowledge (except Lenin). The idea that this was part of some Jewish conspiracy to deliberately murder white people is, however, absurd.

On Israel the author is vague in many parts, so I am not sure if I agree with him or not. The regime in Israel has absolutely committed many wrongs, though many of the immigration issues that Europe now faces has nothing to do with Israel. The attempt to link the two makes little sense in light of this. He is correct that Israel's actions vis-a-vis the Palestinian people, though, did raise distrust toward the West which supported Israel.

[end]
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>>1338735
>The author has intended to look at history solely to advance his own agenda in blatant and patently false ways.
welcome to /his/
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>>1338753
History as deployed to advance an agenda, whether consciously (in this case for certain) or unconsciously, is probably more common than we would like to admit. A lot of historians accept that people cannot be fully objective and that there is at least some degree of relativity in history. It has been argued that historians bringing certain frames of reference into any kind of analysis.

However, this does not mean that we should accept blatant falsehoods and spurious arguments that lack evidence. It does not mean that we should deliberately employ history for the purpose of advancing a political agenda for either the right or for the left. If the author wants to conclude that whites should not have to apologize for anything, that whites should not have guilt and that there is no flaw with white pride, he is more than free to do so. In fact, I agree with all of those arguments personally given effective logical appeals to back them. I just wish the author had not dragged history through the mud in his efforts.
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>>1337116
cringe
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>>1337433
Reading about that David Irving trial is comedy gold, but I kinda feel bad for the guy because of how badly he gets BTFO, but yet he kept showing up to the trial day after day.
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>>1337233
The OP video is inspired by an earlier video titled "I'm a Russian Occupant", a well-known russian propaganda video, just a fyi guys.
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>>1337480
>David Cole

>Cole's stated views on the Holocaust was now somewhat similar to the stated Holocaust views of David Irving. He thus argued that mass killings had occurred at some camps such as at Treblinka.

"This statement is given in an attempt to set the record straight about my current views regarding the Holocaust and Holocaust denial. As anyone who follows the subject of the Holocaust denial knows, from 1991 until 1994 I was well known in the movement as a Jewish Holocaust denier (a self-described "revisionist"). For the last three years I have no longer been associated with this movement, having realized that I was wrong and that the path I was taking with my life was self-destructive and hurtful to others. I have spent the last few years in silence on the subject of my time with the denial movement, a silence caused mainly by my shame at what I had done with my life and my desire to distance myself from that life.

However, in that shame-induced silence it has been brought to my attention that I have not gone as far as I should have to make a clear and complete public statement in order to set the record straight as to where I stand.

It is my great hope that this statement accomplishes that task.

I would like to state for the record that there is no question in my mind that during the Holocaust of Europe's Jews during World War Two, the Nazis employed gas chambers in an attempt to commit genocide against the Jews. At camps in both Eastern and Western Europe, Jews were murdered in gas chambers which employed such poison gases as Zyklon B and carbon monoxide (in the Auschwitz camp, for example, the gas chambers used Zyklon B). The evidence for this is overwhelming and unmistakable.

The Nazis intended to kill all of the Jews of Europe, and the final death toll of this attempted genocide was six million. This atrocity, unique in its scope and breadth, must never be forgotten."
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>>1337116
The American accent ruins it desu senpai
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>>1337116
Sources: my ass
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>this thread
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wtf I hate jews now
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>>1337405
>holocaust didn't happen but it was glorious
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>>1337116
well that sure is vile and wildly inaccurate
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>>1339302
It was real in my mind
And it was great
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>it's another /r9k/ and /pol/ combine to try and recreate Russian propaganda episode

Protip: if you want to be taken seriously, at the very least remove the fucking Holohoax shit. How stupid are you people?
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>>1339329
>remove the fucking Holohoax shit
I think, that's what they are trying, Anon.
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>84 replies
>30 posters

I'm almost certain there are no more than 3 or so leftards itt, but they keep samefagging

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>>1339329

And now need to post a screencap with some of the (you) removed with MS paint
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Oooh I like abstract merchant
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You'll be sorry
t. Slav
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>>1339358
One more
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Guaranteed 200+ replies
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>>1339377
by that one butthurt leftard who pretend to be several persons
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>>1339344
I'm >>1339329 and it's been my only post, faggot.

Alt-rightists are just as dogmatic and militant like SJWs. Just like how if you not supporting radical third wave feminism means you're misogynistic pig who must be castrated, not supporting alt-right politics means you're a nu-male cuckshill who must be shot. Get the fuck out of here with your juvenile political thinking.

inb4 "TYPICAL ANTI-/pol/ ARGUMENT THO!!!11"

Yes, because I want it to be rammed into your filthy, ignorant heads that you're 100% as hypocritical and retarded as the people you hate. So leave the rest of us the fuck alone. I don't want my kids to grow up in either an SJW or alt-rightist dominated society.
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>>1339394
Calm down there autismo. Just because someone says something you disagree with doesn't mean they're literally Hitler.
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>>1339405
This is one thing I won't be calm for, friendo. The future of future generations is at stake, why should anybody calm down? When normal Westerners are under assault from both the right and left, you have to take a stand against extremism. It's the only way.

Being on a history board, I think we can all appreciate why history is so important. It's part of the collective memory and experience that humanity has. Part of why humanity has continued to improve is because we have methods of recording what we've done, what works and hasn't worked.

And just to clarify, alt-rightists don't remind me of Nazis. They remind me of retarded Serbian nationalists.
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>>1337319
Fuck off commie
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>>1337499
Enjoy the rope traitor
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>>1339441
t. Bosnian muslim
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>>1339449
t. Slav who would've been exterminated or subject to slavery under Nazi rule but likes Nazis
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>>1339461
Glorious Croatian master race coming through!
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