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FUCK
THEY REMOVED THE FUCKING "DO NOT UPGRADE" OPTION
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO
I AM NOT FUCKING LOSING WINDOWS 7
>>54193150
Are you literally blind? There's a red 'X' at the top right, open your fucking eyes.
>>54193150
Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
https://archive.is/OBGB1
Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
https://archive.is/tW6fu
Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
https://archive.is/2XIvX
https://archive.is/qLRZx
Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:
https://archive.is/Zny36
https://archive.is/sz1nt
https://archive.is/g3QdQ
https://archive.is/ko469
https://archive.is/l6pmO
Micrcrosoft automatically downloads Windows 10 on PCs running
Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 (between 3.5GB and 6GB), even if
users have not opted-in:
http://archive.is/CEvKh
Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
https://archive.is/vhjwm
https://archive.is/2jehd
Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
https://archive.is/MB0Yy
> Over 82 billion photos viewed.
> Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
> 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
> Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
> Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
>>54193175
IT'LL FUCKING UPDATE AUTOMATICALLY IF I DO THAT
I WOULD RATHER LEAVE MY COMPUTER OFF FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE THAN INSTALL FUCKING WINDOWS 10
>>54193150
GWX control panel, get it you blistering retard.
Choose time, choose 3016
>ctrl shift esc
>kill gwx.exe
>>54193150
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm
>>54193150
remember kids,
50 NOs and one YES means YES
>>54193244
Thanks, I'll try that. I just tried this: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/3oppct/how_to_remove_gwxexe_and_gwxuxexe_and_windows_10/
Hopefully it'll work.
I swear to god if this "updates" to Windows 10 without my permission I am suing the shit out of Microsoft.
Upgrade to GNU+Linux
>>54193225
GWX control panel isn't very good. >>54193244 is better.
>>54193150
Disable windows automatic updates function. Then do a quick google search how to get rid of the w10 automatic upgrade.
1. upgrade to gentoo
2. upgrade to other linux
3. upgrade to bsd based
4. upgrade to windows 10
all these options are better than this 7 piece of shit
>>54193269
never10 is nice, it's like 8k and it all it does is set the correct registry entries for windows update to fuck off, then deletes the pre-seeded data
I haven't updated my windows 8.1 in months
how do I update it while making sure it wont just install 10 by itself?
Call BillyG personally
Or tell NSA to fuck off by typing it in a google search they are monitoring
I still have my legit Windows 7 install key, and I think I still have the disk lying around here somewhere. If it forces the update, can I revert back with the disk?
>>54193198
>hurr look mom I posted it again
>>54193150
Install Linux and forget microsoft's fuckery.
This is fucking bullshit, I had it set to never check for updates, but now it's set to "always install updates."
This cannot be fucking legal.
>>54193318
Manually install security updates only
>>54193330
That'll show 'em who's boss!
why not just remove gwx?
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/charlesa_us/2015/06/25/how-to-remove-block-and-prevent-get-windows-10-application-for-enterprise-environments/
why is /g/ so retarded
>>54193150
Resistance is futile.
>>54193383
it's not the way microsoft wants you to do it, so they will continue to reinstall it for you. just use >>54193244
>>54193150
he's not joking i just fucking got this too
What does the arrow on the right do?
At this point I'm pretty sure it's all just a trick to gain full access to every computer in the world.
But oh well, I want to play games with better performance.
>>54193422
It just shows some slides about Windows 10 features.
>>54193422
Or the menu on the top left corner?
>>54193150
>he installed GWX
learn how to read update descriptions, I just reinstalled win7 and unticked GWX and telemetry. Fucking easy
>>54193150
we told u to disable the fucking updates completely or at least the bullshit ones!
There are people who didn't just uninstall the W10 updates or better yet not install them to begin with?
I have never once been prompted to install Windows 10, ever.
>>54193150
Use a pirated copy
Does it matter?
I only game and shitpost on my windows machine. Porn too because its my most powerful rig and I can have 10 cam models on at once across my monitors.
Everything I care about is on my linux boxes.
Is it better for games?
>>54193476
Me neither and I'm on Windows 10!
>>54193477
If I download Windows 7 from PirateBay, but I use a legit install key, is it considered pirated? I have my install key but I can't find the disk.
>>54193476
Some people are too stupid to do that.
>windowsfags "I'll just use win7 until EOL"
FUCKING BTFO
LMAO KEKS, WHAT NOW?
INSTALL GENTOO
>>54193150
Do people seriously update windows?
Even after the w10 fiasco?
You're just asking for it you fucking retard, I've never updated my windows install since the day I installed it.
>>54193493
they could try to sue you in court but good fucking luck with that if you had proof of purchase
>>54193150
>>54193346
NO DUDE THIS IS FUCKING REAL LOOK IM NOT HIM HOLY FUCK IDK WHAT TO DO I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS FUCKERY
>>54193357
It has been known that they bypass your settings to push "super critical updates". You should have turned off windows update in Services.
>>54193493
You can find the official ISO on Microsoft's website and download it without a key.
>>54193150
>doesn't have auto update disabled
>fell for the W10 is evil meme
successful shit thread, good job OP
>not using windows XP
fucking plebs
>b-but muh PC vidya
Get a fucking console and let sonygger or xbone spy on your ass
OR
Go outside and play sports with human beings while making relationships
>>54193552
>Go outside and play sports with human beings while making relationships
Not everyone has VR yet, anon.
>>54193509
What did you expect? They probably think common sense is a good replacement for an antivirus on windows too
>>54193509
If you're using Windows 10, then your computer has "updated" itself many times without you knowing it
>>54193304
>upgrade to gentoo
>upgrade
lol'd so hard
take control of GWX
delete GWX
What is exactly wrong with windows 10. How would collecting my data negatively affect me in any way
>>54193509
Because one might find it natural to expect that the setting "download but don't update" will download updates without applying them. Of course, one would be dead wrong to make that assumption.
>>54193617
(You)
>>54193632 (You)
What the fuck are you up to?
>>54193288
Aegis is the best, but I always get banned when I get by filters to post the link because some faglord janitor gets triggered by the dreaded V-word site
Google Aegis Windows 7 and go from there, and also add the WindowsLies hosts file to what it adds as well
>>54193617
>How would collecting my data negatively affect me
Why do you lock your door at night?
Why keep money in a card?
Why do you live in a house?
Use a hardware firewall to block microsoft's servers
>>54193673
Windows 10 handles updates (and probably data collection) via p2p when the servers can't be reached directly. This won't work. The only option is to run windows 10 only virtualized and only in a network-free container.
>>54193672
>Why do you lock your door at night?
So that my massive paranoia won't get me
>Why keep money in a card?
Because where else?
>Why do you live in a house?
Because i'm not a caveman
>>54193594
Then don't use windows 10.
>>54193619
Why download updates if you're not going to apply them?
Fucking retards
>>54193754
So that you can vet them before applying them, fucking inbred.
>>54193198
All this, MS fags BTFO forever.
>>54193617
They're profiting from you but not giving you any of the money. If you had a Honus Wagner baseball card, and I bought it off you for all the change in my wallet when in reality it's worth millions, would you be angry? What about if I stole it from you but left a current baseball card in its place? That would be an upgrade, but surely it's not acceptable for me to force the upgrade on you, especially when it effectively means you lose a valuable asset which I then gain.
>>54193509
>updating windows
>not expecting more botnet
Kek
reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\gwx.exe" /v Debugger /t REG_SZ /d nul /f
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade /t REG_DWORD /v "ReservationsAllowed" /d 0 /f
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade /t REG_DWORD /v "AllowOSUpgrade" /d 0 /f
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade /t REG_DWORD /v "OSUpgradeRunOnceCount" /d 0 /f
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade /t REG_DWORD /v "KickoffDownload" /d 0 /f
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade /t REG_DWORD /v "KickoffSource" /d 0 /f
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade /t REG_DWORD /v "Refresh" /d 0 /f
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\GWX /t REG_DWORD /v "ContentCount" /d 0 /f
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\GWX /t REG_DWORD /v "TrayShown" /d 0 /f
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\GWX\Reservation /t REG_DWORD /v "ReservationState" /d 0 /f
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\GWX\TrayIcon /t REG_DWORD /v "IconVisibility" /d 0 /f
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate /t REG_DWORD /v "DisableOSUpgrade" /d 1 /f
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx /t REG_DWORD /v "DisableGwx" /d 1 /f
>>54193943
Is the free upgrade not enough for you?
>>54193672
I don't
What card
Because I like to sleep in a bed with heat and ac
>>54193970
You can add this to a .bat script that runs every logon from taskschd.msc, making sure you run it under the "system" account.
Is there a way to disable telemetry on W10? It's kind of comfy but I don't want a botnet
>>54193198
Open and close photos billion of times offline - no data is updated to microsoft.
Open and close photos billion of times with all privacy settings off - no data is updated to microsoft.
...
...
Profit?
>>54193943
Its literally free
>>54193150
How about NO INSTALL THE FUCKING UPDATES OF WINDOWS 10 UPGRADE?
Uninstall these updates!
>tfw did a clean install of 10
it's not that bad. it's literally 7 with better shit. you can turn off most of the 'telemetry' crap either way if that is your problem.
>>54193175
For now.
>>54194048
It's best to install enterprise because you can use group policies to turn every intrusive shit completely off with ease.
just fucking uninstall the 3035583 update you dingus. this shit isnt hard.
you can also just delete the hidden folder in C: that it downloaded to, and also set the registry keys that are plainly documented to prevent it from happening.
>>54194027
Meanwhile in real life...
>>54194027
>windows fans literally need to turn off the Internet to view photos safely
>>54194118
may or may not have reported for announcing reports
DO YOU WANT TO UPGRADE NOW OR LATER?
>>54193150
>he left the icon on his taskbar
>he didnt uninstall KB3035583
>he didnt delete $Windows_BT
>he didnt listen
>>54193150
Relax, Windows 10 has more security, privacy and support.
>>54193603
Over arch this is an upgrade.
>>54193336
>I still have my legit Windows 7 install key, and I think I still have the disk lying around here somewhere. If it forces the update, can I revert back with the disk?
During the upgrade it backs up your previous system state. You can roll it back from within Windows 10.
I'm a Linux user, so I don't care too much... but I had to make a windows VM, and I used a pirated version of win7 enterprise. it's really easy..
>>54193150
KEK. This is what happens when you're too dumb to turn off your updates for years.
>>54193150
Guys remember when you told me not to cross that road or I'd be it by a car?
I crossed the road several times but now I can't move and a car is heading right for me, what do I do?
You get hit by the car and I hope it hurts.
>>54194449
I hope you have at least SP1
>>54193150
Have you considered doing any sort of research and deleting the offending folder with the update files??
Also, why tf aren't you monitoring your internet usage? I know if I suddenly saw massive spikes in my throughput on my bandwidth monitor, I'd investigate...
You brought this on yourself.
>>54194333
kek @ video
also, trips check'd
>>54194449
>for years, /g/ spouts the "don't turn off autoupdates" maymay
>suddenly it's hip and happening to not turn on autoupdates
>>54193527
I think you need to give them the key now to download it. I was trying to download the Windows ISO to burn to a DVD for my laptop but it 1) needed a product key and 2) said mine wouldn't work because it was an OEM product key. Fucking bullshit desu
>>54193150
FUCKING UPGRADE AND STOP USING A PREHISTORIC OS
>>54194679
Two Microsoft Dollars™ have been credited to your account. Have a nice day, Pajeet.
>>54194017
>Every logon
Why would you need to run this more than once?
>>54193994
>>54194034
It's not a free upgrade since it requires you to have already purchased a previous version of windoze pajeet.
>>54193943
If it's free then you are the product, not Windows. Same shit with Facebook, Twitter or any free site on the web.
>>54194740
>already purchased a previous version
>purchased
nope :^)
>>54193198
>44.5 billion people a month spend one minute using edge to download chrome
that's a lot of users.
>>54194764
Yes.
If the license was not obtained legally the windows 10 version also converts and requires an activation with a key.
>>54194733
windows settings don't always like to stay put
Soon, we will all be on Windows 10.
>>54193150
Install Gentoo
>wintards still think "install gentoo" is a meme
Plebs, when will they learn?
AS soon as Windows 10 is installed on a machine all files on the disk(s) get sucked up into the Microsoft Corporation spy server network...dont do it
>>54193150
Jesus Christ. How many times are we going to go over this. If you don't hide the upgrade or fix the registry, and you have the "Automatically download recommended updates," it will download.
I posted this shit months ago.
>>54193150
Use a better OS
>>54195278
We don't read your fucking blog anon go back to /a/ you anime shitposting weeb degenerate fuck shit
>>54195278
>that theme
>>54193150
just use the little x in the corner anon
>>54195306
This has been mainstream news for 2 months. Me posting it on /pol/, /v/, and /g/ does not equivocate a blog post. It's letting people know what's coming, and it led to threads hit the bump limit in all three boards, and then spawned continuation threads.
At this point, if you haven't disabled the Windows 10 upgrade, then the consequences of that are on you.
>>54195313
Good thing I'm not trying to impress you.
>>54193150
Shit happenned to me. Reggie's weren't working anymore. went to sys32/gwx/ and forced fucked full control then killed permissions for trusted installer. Then I deleted. Will do again once the next update tries its shit. Kekspeed friend.
There is nothing wrong with 10
>>54195922
Except that it's a privacy nightmare out of the box.
>>54193150
post 1/2 copy paste this to a notepad save as a bat and run
this code into a text file and then save as uninstall.bat Double click the .bat file and it will remove these updates from your system.
wusa /uninstall /kb:971033 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2882822 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2902907 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2922324 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2976978 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2977759 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2990214 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3012973 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3014460 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3015249 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3021917 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3042058 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3044374 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3046480 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3050265 /quiet /norestart
>>54196011
2/2
wusa /uninstall /kb:3050267 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3064683 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3065987 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3065988 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3072318 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3074677 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3075249 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3075851 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3075853 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3080149 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3080149 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3081437 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3081454 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3081954 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083324 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083325 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083710 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083711 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3086255 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3088195 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3090045 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3093983 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3102810 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3102812 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3112343 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3112336 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3123862 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3135445 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3135449 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3138612 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3138615 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3139929 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3146449 /quiet /norestart
pause
>>54193150
get rekt idiot.
>>54195954
nice meme
>>54196064
It being a meme doesn't make it untrue.
And yeah, there are ways to work around most of it, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a privacy nightmare out of the box.
>>54193509
>not getting security updates
lmao the lack of just general knowledge on this board is actually frightening. That and people saying they use "common sense" as av. Fucking lmao. I guess none of you people ever have any important data on your boxes since none of you have jobs or money anyways.
Install ubuntu because winshit 7 violates your privacy just as much.
Look at wireshark.
>>54193994
>>54194034
hello rakesh. How many cents per post are you currently making again? You should probably see about asking for a raise.
>>54193509
Posts like these make me realize how fucking illiterate some people on /g/ are.
>>54194048
>you can turn off most of the 'telemetry' crap either way if that is your problem
>you can turn off
>can turn off
>>54193198
Well fuck.I like my t420 with winvirus7.
I'll never get these cause I haven't updated my wangblock 7 since a year or so.
Fuck security, I got nothing to hide that isn't hidden.
>>54196302
>Fuck security, I got nothing to hide that isn't hidden.
Where is yout stuff hidden
>>54193150
>Upgrade now
>Upgrade tonight
I feel like someone's giving me an ultimatum for when I will be raped.
>>54193150
You could try "Choose time" > "[Time after it's no longer free]"
>>54196355
Someone at work thought they would be cute and do that.
They give you 4 days to schedule it once it's download.
If you wait more than 4 days, things get kind of odd. Like if he were to download it today, and wait until the 30th to schedule his installation, the latest date he could schedule would still be the 28th.
>>54196424
>someone at work
On their personal machine?
>>54193150
Serves your dumbass right for actually having automatic updates turned on.
>not inspecting each and every security update to make sure Win10 isn't in one of them
Enjoy Windows 10, you lazy fuck.
>>54196454
Nope.
I work for a city, and we have a single IT guy. One of my coworkers upgraded without the IT guy's permission.
The button to finish/schedule the upgrade was up for several months, and you can't minimize/close that window.
I could have undone it, but the IT guy has made it clear that "If [anon] do my job, the problem will be resolved," to my bosses.
>>54196484
>allowing users to upgrade their own machines
poor guy must be either retarded or overwhelmed.
Download linux or get a mac.
Fuck pc gaming is dead, steam and ms/nsa killed it.
>>54196503
He's not overwhelmed. He doesn't do shit, and when he does, he's pretty fucking bad at anything off the beaten trail.
Dude tried for 4 hours to get a program to work for our power plant, and wound up giving up. I had no experience with the software, or the hardware that the computer was supposed to connect to, and had everything up and running in 20 minutes.
I did it because it needed to be done, and my bosses asked me to. I never meant to step on anyone's toes, but now the dude feels threatened.
>>54194806
I've seen plenty of surge tic win10 installs work exactly as they should off daz loader activated 7
>>54196538
Ok so he's retarded. Idk how the fuck you allow uers to do shit like that. Let alone not screening your updates and having some kind of wsus/sccm/etc server.
>>54196545
Meant to post authentic, not surge tic
>>54196558
His entire monitoring system is Trend Micro Security Agent.
Oh, and he recently upgraded the entire city to Fiber Optic, so that he could see everything that everyone is doing from the server, or so he says (I've never held an IT job, or had any formal training. I just know my way around computers and their software).
He also got sick of installing MS Office on everything, so he pushed everyone onto Google Docs.
>>54193304
>no games
>better
dumb linux poster
>>54196592
How do these people get jobs I wonder....
>>54196767
Politics. Dude started off as an EMT for the city, then became a Fire fighter. Went for Chief, and when he didn't get it, he walked out on the job. Then he brown nosed his way into IT, and got the city to pay for it. Then he applied for City manager, didn't get it, but got the city to begin paying for another degree to train him for it. He just got his first subordinate in IT, who is paid minimum wage, and does pretty much all the work while he sucks up to the new City manager all day long. New City Manager is doing a horrible job, so it's pretty obvious he just wants to know the job and get a recommendation when the City Manager leaves or retires.
He has plans to run for the State Senate in a few years.
How do I know all this? My wife is his niece.
>>54196789
Oh, and he's also the leader of all the Utilities (water, electric, trash and street department), despite never working a single day in his life. In the midst of a 3 year wage freeze, he was given a 20k/yr increase in his salary for taking on that position, on top of everything else he's doing. City Manager (the one he spends all day brown nosing) pushed the City Council into giving him the job and the raise.
>>54196789
>>54196809
that is pretty horrifying my man.
>>54196011
>>54196029
This didn't remove the Windows 10 upgrade icon on the taskbar.
>>54196856
pretty sure u have to go into the registry for that one faggot.
>>54196825
Always be wary of career public workers.
I'm doing it right now to get power plant experience. 16 bucks per hour (not bad for the midwest), but now that I've hit my 3 years experience, I'm currently applying for jobs in the private sector that pay 44.50/hr.
>>54196895
>Pentium dual core
One of the greatest.
>>54196895
>Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU
>>54196895
If you're using an OS that old, why not use something like Linux Mint?
I'm not attacking. Just genuinely curious.
>>54193150
Click the damn X. I have gotten this popup a shitload of times and it goes away every time I click the X.
>>54196917
Ran Lubuntu for a while, it runs even worse than XP.
I blame my internal graphics for this; if I had an actual dedicated gpu I wouldn't have had any problems with running new OSes
>>54196949
Fair enough.
Can't fault you for trying. If you wanna give another build a try, I would recommend reading this:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/mint-xfce
>>54193150
I don't get why you are upset.
>You have chosen to use an OS that you don't own in any way.
>You have chosen to let a company control your computing.
>You have chosen to use a proprietary OS.
And then you get surprised when they choose for you? I don't get it.
![[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_22.45_[2016.04.10_16.50.31].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tIwKhIF.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 01 [720p].mkv snapshot 22.45 [2016.04.10 16.50.31]")
>>54196949
>>54196981
And the reason I'm not running a newer Windows OS, is because it straight up refuses to install - it crashes a little after the install starts. I've tried Vista, 7 and 8.1, and the result was the same on each.
I've ran 7 before on this computer, when I had a dedicated ATI gpu, and it ran really good, so..why?
Why would a slightly weaker gpu cause those crashes?
>>54197091
Why look though the trash and find a pc 10x as good as your current one and just install a newer OS on it?
I just went into the windows updates folder and manually deleted the update responsible for that annoying popup/download.
Now I don't see anything about windows 10. Is it still in the backround somewhere? I legit removed that update and set all windows updates to be manually approved by me.
>>54197119
Nobody throws away computers like that here, and used computers with similar specs to mine are still kinda expensive (so buying an even more powerful one is out of the question).
I'm saving up money right now, but I have no idea what to buy.
I'm ESL by the way, sorry for writing weirdly.
>>54197164
Damn Im sorry. Where are you from? In the US we throw machines away that are far newer than that all the time. At my last job we literally sent a box truck full of old workstations and servers to a recycling place. Got myself a dell t3500 with a quadro video card, 12gb of ram, and some xeon cpu for free. I upgraded the ram and put a 4 port nic in it and made it into a home server. If you were local I would literally give you a machine to use.
>>54193150
>Using deprecated operating systems
Just upgrade to Win10 you stupid fucking winfag, jesus christ.
>>54193288
>GWX control panel isn't very good.
how so? it works and has more features than never10
>>54196756
Games don't make an OS good.
>>54193509
God, Winfags are the absolute worst, never updating their OS.
Enjoy your outdated shit and exploits, fucking idiots.
>>54197192
Macedonia
Also damn, you sound like a very friendly person; willing to give away a computer to a complete stranger. Too bad I'm nowhere near you...
appreciate the offer though
>>54193288
In what way is it not good? It disables everything that needs to be disabled to prevent W10 from installing. What does it miss?
>>54197257
Even fully updated windows is full of exploits.
>>54193150
Install gentoo
>>54196756
>muh gaymes
Get a job, manchild.
>>54193150
just install Window XP and you'll be fine
>>54196895
Mah Nigga
>use consumertard Windows
>be surprised when you get treated like a dumb consumertard that doesn't know how to use a computer
Why does /g/ not know that Enterprise exists?
How the fuck are you faggots still falling for this SHIT? There is an open source, regularly updated script to block all win7 and win8 telemetry, Uninstall every update that does that and is related to Windows 10 (and hides them from the list of updates too, so even a retard can't fuck up). Search for "aegis telemetry", should be in the first 3 links, a thread on voat. I'm not on my pc or I would link directly.
>>54197885
but anon there is no professional software on linux
>>54193150
Click the Red X, then uninstall the updates responsible for installing 10. All of my 7 machines are completely ignorant of 10.
>>54198128
Not him, but what professional software do you need?
>>54196856
It won't until you restart. You have to end gwx.exe before you uninstall the update or restart for it to go away.
>>54198128
Holy kek linuxfags completely BTFO
>>54194669
google digitalriver unofficial mirror
>>54196895
I actually masturbated to a screen shot.
>>54198909
>insider preview
LINUXES ON SUICIDE WATCJH
>>54198909
Nice prod- oh fuck off
>>54193150
I already deleted it, deleted the schedule task and the registry values.
Its not that hard but its pretty much malware
>>54198909
The borderlessness is quite nice, if only i could install the theme on 8.1...
Can windows 10 do classic theme again?
I unchecked "give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" in the Windows update settings. Will this stop Windows 10 from auto installing?
>>54193150
Just upgrade already you stupid republican weeb idiot
>>54199325
Not unless you stop updates altogether.
>>54199326
>stupid republican weeb idiot
>>54199326
retard parjeet
>>54199370
Why not? The Windows 10 update is a "recommended" update. Wouldn't unchecking recommended updates stop the Windows 10 update.
Also, I uninstalled the Windows 10 update. I don't want the cancer to come back.
>>54199326
Dumb right-wing free market libertarian piece of garbage. Your kind should be executed with heavy artillery.
>>54198909
>not legacy captcha
you fucking retard
>>54199395
Sure thing bud, except we are in charge now and you're the one who's gonna be purged off our land. :^)
>>54193150
Windows 10 is better than WIndows 7.
>>54199427
Who is in charge? Are you also a delusional moron? Could it be because of all the heavy drug use? Heavy drug use often brings up latent mental illness.
>>54199464
lol butthurt
>>54193198
shut the fuck up
>>54199395
If anything, Windows 10 is totalitarian communist. It is completely free for most windows users, and runs and tells the state anything and everything that you do.
For it to be libertarian, it would need to respect your right to privacy, which it most certainly does not.
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>>54199479
Lay off the drugs bro. You're completely bonkers.
>except we are in charge now
Wtf is that shit? Do you really believe that libertarians are in charge? Thankfully, they aren't. Otherwise, resources would be quickly depleted, crucial ecosystems would be destroyed and global warming would result in extreme climates, which would result in the spread of severe infectious diseases, falling agricultural output, etc.
Under enough years of libertarian rule, the modern civilization would fall and we would resort back to primitivism.
>>54199542
Seek professional help from a mental health specialist.
>>54199510
>totalitarian communist
>created by a private corporation, and is free to adapt
Wow, you're insane.
>For it to be libertarian, it would need to respect your right to privacy,
Nope. Libertarians allow for private property to be more important than privacy, as long as you consented for the privacy to be taken away when you use that property.
>>54193198
NSA Backdoor in Windows since 1999
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY
You're already 27 years fucked.
>>54193150
Serious question.
Why my 7 never got this notice update?
I've been using it for almost 8 years without reinstall and I don't remember ever tempering the update or firewall option.
Not like I care about upgrading to 10, but all people keep getting forced update notice while I'm not making me feels left behind.
>>54199562
Is all a libertarian can do consist of mindlessly repeating the argument that was made against them? Not surprising.
>>54199579
Are your updates enabled, senpai?
>>54193198
INDECT is more dangerous and there's nothing you could even do about that.
>>54199590
Yes
>>54199625
Yes.
>>54199567
>Libertarians allow for private property to be more important than privacy, as long as you consented for the privacy to be taken away when you.
Not true. Libertarians insist on informed consent. And MS doesn't, given its absurdly long terms and conditions written in legalese that a credit card company would be proud of.
Communism, on the other hand, doesn't give a shit about consent, informed or no, kind of like how M$ is pretty much willingly becoming a dog of the state in order to survive. Just because the dog doesn't have a leash around its neck doesn't mean that it doesn't have an owner.
At best, you could argue that its corporatist, which is anything but libertarian.
>>54199646
>>54199718
>Not true. Libertarians insist on informed consent. And MS doesn't
But you are consenting to all of the surveillance bullshit when you install Microsoft products, or when you use proprietary software/platforms.
A non-consensual choice is when you have no option to legally choose an alternative. Here, you can clearly chose an alternative. Use GNU/Linux software and OS, and replace the BIOS firmware you have with Libreboot.
>>54199796
Once again, you seem to have missed the INFORMED part of "informed consent."
Having it download an OS UPGRADE as though it is a security update to your current OS, and then popping up a bubble that doesn't give you a clear way to opt out of the upgrade (there's no, "I don't want to upgrade" button) isn't what I would consider to be INFORMED consent.
Then their terms and conditions relies on you not reading/understanding it, because it is very long, and very complex.
Take a look at OP. Does he look like he gave his INFORMED consent?
Again, you can call it socialist. You can call it corporatist. I'm sure there are other things you can call it, as well. But it most certainly isn't libertarian.
>>54199576
>27 years
>>54199854
>socialist
>a private company operating in a largely poorly regulated capitalist economy with a small (compared to Europe) public sector
This has to be some kind of a joke, right? And socialism is an economic system. It has nothing to do with a private corporation (Microsoft) creating shit products (Windows 10).
>informed consent
>then their terms and conditions relies on you not reading/understanding it, because it is very long, and very complex.
But this is what informed consent is. No one is fucking forcing you to install Windows at gunpoint or a threat of being arrested. If you don't understand the information provided in the contract, don't fucking install it! No one is forcing you.
Things like this shit happen, though, not because there's a lack of informed consent - there's clearly an informed consent. What is lacking is proper regulation of the private sector. The state should force Microsoft not to do such shit.
>inb4 muhh but free markets
Both markets and the public sector are indispensable for proper development of the society and technology. Most of the technology used by Apple, for example, was developed by the public sector - aka the state (touch screens, GPS + satellites and space launch, the Internet, wireless protocols, etc.). The state can create lots of innovation by investing into research and development, and it had already done so in the past. And this is clearly true, since we're here, browsing the Internet - invented largely by the state.
>>54193150
Let it go, anon. You must move on, the rest of us have.
>>54193150
You had literally a year to choose your upgrade time. It's your fault
HOW DO I GET UPDATE TO 10 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>54200020
poo2loo
>>54193476
I did get the pop up for it, I was actually interested but it just never switched to "click here to actually upgrade to your free copy". I found out that the windows update for it was corrupt or something. After running it from the site it corrupted my update service all together, it refuses to connect to the windows servers now. Pretty much glad that it happened cause of shit like OP. Breaking the system by itself saved me a lot of trouble (MSE still updates fine just not anything windows system related, nothing of value was lost).
>>54199972
>The US is a poorly regulated capitalist economy
That's a joke, right? Spending as a percent of GDP is over 40%. In what way is that "capitalist?"
>But this is what informed consent is.
Informed consent is not downloading an OS upgrade as an update, giving you no clear option to opt out, and putting their terms and conditions in complex and confusing language.
An example of informed consent would be a notification telling you that you could upgrade your OS for free by going to [insert MS address], where, underneath the download link, there was a link to their terms and conditions, as well as their privacy policy, both of which would be clearly worded and easy to understand. Upon finishing the download of the upgrade, you would need to double click on the icon, which would launch an installer, which would tell you that this is an OS upgrade, and that if you install it, you will be subject to the terms and conditions of doing so (which would be listed again). Then, when you restart your computer (as opposed to M$ doing it FOR YOU), it would list the terms and conditions one more time (once again, in simple, easy to understand text), and say that if you do not agree, the OS upgrade will be cancelled, and you will be reverted back to your old OS.
Upon completing your upgrade, it will have an icon in the start menu for 30 days, titled, "How to roll back your OS," in the event you do not like the upgrade, or something no longer works.
I would not argue that somebody going through those steps would not have given their fully informed consent.
hurr
>>54193486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eab2UI1Iq2w
debends on the job the devs do
there are too many variables
/v/irgins and fa/g/ots will never calm
>>54200124
Only retards brag about keeping security holes open, buddy.
>>54193150
>actually using windows
>ever
>literally ever ever
>even after MS was the first corp to join prism
>even after the nsakey fiasco
>even after new privacy policy lets them sell literally any of your personal info
>even after how retardedly they've been handling the win10 launch
>even after """ telemetry""" turning itself back on automagically
>even after ads in your goddamn OS
>even after literally having to fight your own operating system to stop it from sending data about what you're doing
>>he still uses windows
That's it. I'm done. I'm setting up wordfilters for everything to do with wangblows and ms, and hiding all windows-related threads as soon as I see them. You tards were warned over and over, and now you're freaking out over MS rusing you, even though basically the entire tech community told you it would happen.
I'm so done with you people. Enjoy wallowing in your own shit. Ffs.
>>54200146
Linux is a giant security hole, buddy. It doesn't even have anti-virus, Loonix tards actually believe they are secure because "nobody writes viruses for Linux".
>>54200202
That has absolutely nothing to do with my argument, retard. Not once did I mention any other OS in my argument.
>>54193544
first thing i do when i install windows 7 is disable windows updates through services
then i activate the os with a hungarian activator
twelve thinkpads, one thinkstation, and one dell all humming along smoothly
>"Update now, your windows 7 support will soon end."
like i fucking care
>>54193175
>/g/
>common sense
Think you're asking for a bit much there mate.
>>54200176
edgy
If no Windows how do i gamez?
>>54194017
winbabbies will go through all of this shit just to make their system of choice behave like it should
>>54200268
GAYMEN MANCHILDREN LOL
>>54193150
>not bending over to take nadel's crusty pooy cock
its like you don't even poo in the loo
>>54200271
Almost Archlike experience.
BOTNET
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E
T
>>54197164
>being this fucking poor
a used computed from 5 years ago would be better than the trash you have now and it would cost like $50 at most.
>>54197270
>being a poorfag
sucks to be you OP
>still using Windows
found your problem
>>54193150
>clean install windows 7 sp1
>turn off updates
>0 fucks given
>actually want to upgrade laptop to windows 10
>more than powerfull enough
>have done everything necessary
>windows 7: i'm sorry anon, i can not let you do that.
what do?
>>54193848
Got a name? :^)
>>54200359
Download the installer from MS' website if you want to turn your laptop into a radiator so badly.
>>54200348
The service pack have loads of spying bullshit in it. Only use a clean original 2009 ISO
>>54200381
it still wont work, i have tried all guides i could find. it just doesnt werk.
>not having windows update service disabled
You deserve this.
>Retards getting angry that proprietary OS do this
So WHAT?
Linuxfags have had to put up with this for years.
Nothing wrong with windows 10 in its current state and the retards spouting botnet memes failed to realize windows had always had this shit since XP
>>54200433
>Linuxfags have had to put up with this for years.
??? My computer doesn't update anything unless I want it to.
Ugh?
>>54193150
I am glad I downloaded windows from piratebay ;^)
>>54200475
I am glad you have botnet in your botnet.
>>54200460
Ditto. I have to explicitly tell it to, and then enter my root password for it to update ANYTHING.
Haven't actually upgraded my OS yet, because the version I'm on is still supported, so why rush?
>Wanting to use windows 7/8.1
>Not just dualbooting 7 SP1 with no updates
>Not having windows 10
I really dont understand /g/ at all
Linux is perfectly usable as long as you dont mind having no games
>>54200461
Click: Show all available updates.
Then hide the OS upgrade.
>>54200512
I know, I mean what is wrong with OP?
>>54200507
The problem with Linux is that you have to have all special versions of your programs compiled for Linux that don't work with Windows or even other Linux "flavors". Once you start down that road you get utterly sucked into it and find that all your stuff is incompatible with 99% of other computers in the world. You have to become a neckbeard to get anything done. A Linux tard can't just put his stuff on a flash drive and use a public computer at the library, for example, because none of his programs will work on it. Whereas a Windows tard can roll up at any computer in the world, even Linux computers with Wine, and be reasonably assured that all his stuff will work right away.
That's the problem with Linux. If Wine wasn't a pile of shit and actually worked I'd be using Linux right now as a base OS with Windows programs running on top.
>>54200507
>Not actually patching security holes on Win7 by looking at what each update will do.
Not gonna mention 8/8.1, because you are already being watched. May as well upgrade to 10.
>>54200523
Looks like nothing. He's just pissed that he has to hit the red x. I don't use Win7 anymore, but I'm guessing the modified the Windows upgrade window that you get when you click on the Windows icon.
>>54199718
>>54199854
>Libertarians insist on informed consent
Fuck off, commie. Information is a commodity like any other and if you require people to give away information to allow "informed consent" then you're a de-facto statist and engaging in redistribution of what is effectively wealth.
If you can't obtain the information for yourself, that's your own competitive disadvantage. Get over it instead of crying to the state to rescue you.
>>54200562
Only software I would use at a library would be Libre Office stuff, with Google docs as an alternative, both of which are compatible. That said, Windows is the OS you want to use for professional stuff (preferably offline). Linux is where you go when you want to be online.
As far as gaming goes, you're on your own for that one. I just play old PS/PS2/PS3 games offline that I get for cheap via flash sales, or already owned when I was younger.
I don't buy new shit anymore.
>>54200593
back to >>>/pol/, aspie
>>54200609
#FeelTheBern, amirite? xD
>>54200593
>implying libertarians are anarchist, rather than believing that government's role is an umpire in a baseball game, making sure that the game is played fairly.
Ok.
>>54200633
there's a difference between the state getting control of the military and the state intervening in a private contract you entered into voluntarily without understanding what it meant.
>>54200562
Sp you're saying that making a document in LibreOffice and saving it as a .docx is too hard for the average pleb?
>>54200672
No I'm saying that when you turn up at the library computer or internet cafe and want to open a .docx and find that the computer has no version of any office program installed because the library are cheap fuckers, if you're a Linux tard you're screwed whereas if you are a Windows tard you can bring your own portable office program on your flash drive to open and print the file.
>>54200660
Using underhanded tactics and purposefully complex and confusing wording in their terms to deceive the customer into thinking that there is no alternative but to upgrade can hardly be considered fair play.
They are using "convenience" as an excuse to push people who don't know any better onto something they may not want to use. If they were really as noble as they are trying to make out, they would do something similar to the situation described here:>>54200109
>>54200688
Then you can use google docs, and print it from the web browser.
>>54200726
I thought the whole point of Linux was to not be a slave to the botnet. If you're going to sell your soul to google then why not just run Windows?
Loonix fanboys are such hypocrites.
>>54200741
Well, if someone is going to print their documents at the library, they are going to use windows anyways. One would think that if they were willing to use Windows to print their document from a library, they might as well use google docs as well, right?
After all, a real purist would boot linux from a usb stick, which would include libre office, and print that way, right?
>>54200762
>After all, a real purist would boot linux from a usb stick, which would include libre office, and print that way, right?
And now you're banned from the library and probably on a watchlist for being a "hacker".
>>54200707
>Using underhanded tactics and purposefully complex and confusing wording in their terms to deceive the customer into thinking that there is no alternative but to upgrade can hardly be considered fair play.
If the customer doesn't understand the agreement they shouldn't be agreeing to it. If they choose to do so that's their own fault. If they want to be informed, they should seek information even if that means they have to give something in exchange for obtaining it.
"Informed consent" is either a buzzword for state intervention in the information market, or a meme like "Charity will totally supplant state-welfare 100%!!!" by people who are either incredibly naive or incredibly dishonest. State intervention in a market in this fashion is the antithesis of serious libertarianism
Or just put the LibreOffice.exe on your USB stick and install it on the library PC?
Also I've never seen a library without Word/LibreOffice ...
>>54200779
Come on, now anon. You just called a linux fanboy a hypocrite for using google. How is Windows 8 or 10 any better?
Besides, your theoretical situation is easily trumped by spending 20 bucks on the cheapest printer you can find online or at wal mart, and refilling your carts when empty. Cheaper, too.
Or maybe they just take their laptop to the library, and print to the printer that way.
Your hypothetical situation of a library computer that is running windows, but doesn't have any office utilities is a stretch to begin with, and I've trumped it a dozen different ways that doesn't require you to have Windows on your box.
>>54200823
>inb4 "maybe they can't afford a printer"
Then how on earth are they going to afford Windows or Word?
>>54200814
Completely true, so long as you give a clear and obvious way to opt out of it, rather than using underhanded tactics to get the upgrade underway before they know what's happening. Which Windows isn't doing.
>>54200823
You've only trumped it by letting google see your private documents. Great privacy!!
>>54200855
>Which Windows isn't doing.
You agreed to the prior terms of the Windows 7 use contract.
If you want to opt-out, Install a different operating system.
>>54200881
>MS, on the other hand, completely respects your privacy, and is totally worth the money for the OS, plus the money for MS Office, the price of either could get you a laptop to take to the library, or a printer to print your documents from home!
Boy, you sure proved your point! Dumbass.
>tfw removed the GWX updates before microshit started pushing it really hard into the computers
>tfw I haven't seen the notification since last summer
>>54200475
How does that make a difference?
>>54200882
The complex-worded terms and conditions that are difficult to understand, and came pre-installed on your operating system, leaving you no option to access the internet other than clicking "I agree?"
Great argument!
You guys bitch at Microsoft for giving Windows 10 away for free "because they are trying to trick you into installing a botnet" and then you go and install another free operating system. How does that make any sense? Linux has never been able to sell in its merits.
Tfw pirated win 7 with no "Upgrade to win 10" ads
>mysogosoft cyberraping innocent pcs
>>54200969
Linux is not interested in market share. Linux does not have customers or shareholders, or a responsibility to the bottom line. Linux was not created to make money, or have the goal of being the most popular and widespread OS on the planet.
All the Linux community wants is to create a really good, fully-featured, free operating system. If that results in Linux becoming a hugely popular OS, or Linux having the most intuitive, user-friendly interface ever created, or Linux becoming the basis of a multi-billion dollar industry, then that's great.
It's great, but it's not the point. The point is to make Linux the best OS that the community is capable of making. Not for other people: For itself. The oh-so-common threats of "Linux will never take over the desktop unless it does such-and-such" are simply irrelevant: The Linux community isn't trying to take over the desktop. They really don't care if it gets good enough to make it onto your desktop, so long as it stays good enough to remain on theirs. The highly-vocal MS-haters, pro-Linux zealots, and money-making FOSS purveyors might be loud, but they're still minorities.
That's what the Linux community wants: an OS that can be installed by whoever really wants it. So if you're considering switching to Linux, first ask yourself what you really want.
If you want an OS that doesn't chauffeur you around, but hands you the keys, puts you in the driver's seat, and expects you to know what to do: Get Linux. You'll have to devote some time to learning how to use it, but once you've done so, you'll have an OS that you can make sit up and dance.
If you really just want Windows without the malware and security issues, read up on good security practices; install a good firewall, malware-detector, and anti-virus; replace IE with a more secure browser; and keep yourself up-to-date with security updates. Don't get Linux: It will fail miserably at being what you want it to be.
>>54200942
If you don't agree, don't click "I agree"
It's not libertarianism to expect the state to come in and fix your own mistakes because you lied about agreeing when really you meant "I don't know!" or "I want the advantages of agreeing to this without any of the disadvantages!"
You can obtain another operating system without downloading it yourself on a windows installation licensed to yourself.
one fucking update
KB3035583
Change 'install updates automatically' to 'check but not install'
get rid of recommended updates(skype&bing ffs!)
No to optional updates for MS products(gotta update office manually)
Open control panel, go to updates through there, look in bottom right 'installed updates', click it
find KB3035583, uninstall it
reboot, check for updates
find KB3035583 and hide it
go back to shitposting on your windows pc
x
>>54197958
How do you cope with that little ram, Anon?
>>54201051
>The point is to make Linux the best OS that the community is capable of making.
And 50 years on they've still failed. Meanwhile Windows 10 represents the pinnacle of computing. It's also free, just like Linux.
Linux has literally zero selling points and only appeals to the chuunibyou demographic
>>54200996
>Tfw pirated win 7 with no "Upgrade to win 10" ads
Tfw you're mining bitcoin
>>54201071
Feel free to keep spouting the exact same argument, over and over again. That's fine. You haven't convinced me, and I doubt that you'll convince anyone else. It reeks of corporate boot-licking.
THIS IS THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE
>>54201119
They haven't failed. Just because they haven't created something you don't want doesn't mean they've failed. All that matters is that they've created something that the creators want. If someone else wants it too, that's great, but, once again, it's not the point.
>>54201124
>It reeks of corporate boot-licking.
well he IS a libertarian
>>54193244
>wincucks need some shady software to prevent updates
kek
>>54201124
>I should be able to enter into an agreement without reading it, then have the state bail me out when it turns out there are clauses i dislike!
Bernie isn't going to get elected and you're stuck with your student debt forever. It's not my fault you make bad decisions.
>>54201146
>All that matters is that they've created something that the creators want
I took a big shit this morning and as the creator I was quite proud of it. Does that make it great?
>If someone else wants it too
Nobody wants it though, that's the problem.
>>54201148
So am I. Doesn't make me a corporatist. Minarchism is defined many different ways. Demanding informed consent is not outrageous, especially considering you have to consent before you can even become informed to what you are consenting to, and that many people alive today with PCs got their first PC before they turned 18.
>>54201165
I'm not a leftist.
>>54201174
If you think its great, then sure. It's not like your goal is to push sell it onto others. If someone else wants it, and you're willing to share, then so much the better.
>Nobody wants it though, that's the problem.
That's not true. Some people do want it, otherwise nobody would be using it. Just because it isn't a significant market share is irrelevant. The people that created it wanted to create it, and they are happy using it, as are the people who download and install it. You're just frustrated that linux users don't give a shit about your measuring stick for success.
>>54201221
>I'm not a leftist.
Yet you want the state to give you access to information (property like any other) for free.
>>54201221
>Some people do want it
And some people like scat. But at the end of the day Linux and my poo are both literally shit.
>>54201119
>It's also free, just like Linux.
No it isn't.
You have to have bought God-knows-how-many previous versions of Windows and still have the activation codes and not have changed anything about the PC's hardware.
But yes, Windows is "free" within certain limited definitions of "free".
>>54201237
In regards to issues regarding consumer's consent, yes.
>>54193960
Kill yourself emojis are cancer
Open source advocates are basically stalinists because they suck money away from companies thereby damaging the economy.
>>54201250
And it's fine for you to think that. But to say that it isn't successful in what its creators out to do is presumptuous.
>>54201260
It's free for pirated Windows 7 & 8 copies too. Whether it's a good idea to upgrade with a pirated copy is a different issue however. Not even close to as free as ganoo tho.
>>54201264
Why is consumer consent special? Possession of relative information and use of the aforementioned is a competitive advantage. Removing it infringes on the freedom of the market.
>>54201290
By every objective definition Linux is not successful. Just because a handful of people love it doesn't make it successful. You're whole earlier argument was based on saying that Linux wasn't supposed to be a success, well I suppose if they were aiming for mediocre shit they "succeeded" in that
>>54201083
What about the telemetry update that was disguised as a recommended security patch?
Stop acting like this is at all a hard problem to solve. Stop using Windows as your main OS. If you have to boot into Windows (which you should obviously avoid), physically disconnect the network connection. Use Linux to download things you need on Windows (you can copy files from Linux to Windows partitions just fine). For steam games, use a Windows VM (obviously running in Linux) to download them.
>>54201320
My argument earlier was that Linux was never intended for commercial success or widespread adoption.
Take most text editors vs vi for example:
in most "user-friendly" text editors & word processors, you Cut and Paste by using Ctrl-X and Ctrl-V. Totally unintuitive, but everybody's used to these combinations, so they count as a "friendly" combination.
So when somebody comes to vi and finds that it's "d" to cut, and "p" to paste, it's not considered friendly: It's not what anybody is used to.
Is it superior? Well, actually, yes.
With the Ctrl-X approach, how do you cut a word from the document you're currently in? (No using the mouse!)
From the start of the word, Ctrl-Shift-Right to select the word.
Then Ctrl-X to cut it.
The vi approach? dw deletes the word.
How about cutting five words with a Ctrl-X application?
From the start of the words:
Ctrl-Shift-Right
Ctrl-Shift-Right
Ctrl-Shift-Right
Ctrl-Shift-Right
Ctrl-Shift-Right
Ctrl-X
And with vi?
d5w
The vi approach is far more versatile and actually more intuitive: "X" and "V" are not obvious or memorable "Cut" and "Paste" commands, whereas "dw" to delete a word, and "p" to put it back is perfectly straightforward. But "X" and "V" are what we all know, so whilst vi is clearly superior, it's unfamiliar. Ergo, it is considered unfriendly. On no other basis, pure familiarity makes a Windows-like interface seem friendly. Inescapably, Linux always appears less "user-friendly" than Windows, despite the fact that it is MORE user-friendly, but requires retraining, which many people have no interest in doing.
>>54201400
You sure put a lot of effort into that in reply to a bait-post.
>>54201439
It sums up Linuxfags pretty well; they'll spend hours on a task that a Windows user can do in 5 seconds. Instead of just clicking okay they have to echo it and then pipe the output to dozens of different gnu programs to accomplish the same thing. It's sad actually.
>>54201400
>"X" and "V" are not obvious or memorable "Cut" and "Paste" commands
X looks like scissors for cutting
V looks like an upside down wallpaper pasters ladder
>>54201453
To debunk this, one must discuss the concept of convergent evolution. This is where two completely different and independent systems evolve over time to become very similar. It happens all the time in biology. For example, sharks and dolphins. Both are (typically) fish-eating marine organisms of about the same size. Both have dorsal fins, pectoral fins, tail fins, and similar, streamlined shapes.
However, sharks evolved from fish, while dolphins evolved from a land-based quadrupedal mammal of some sort. The reason they have very similar overall appearances is that they both evolved to be as efficient as possible at living within a marine environment. At no stage did pre-dolphins (the relative newcomers) look at sharks and think "Wow, look at those fins. They work really well. I'll try and evolve some myself!"
Similarly, it's perfectly true to look at early Linux desktops and see FVWM and TWM and a lot of other simplistic GUIs. And then look at modern Linux desktops, and see Gnome & KDE with their taskbars and menus and eye-candy. And yes, it's true to say that they're a lot more like Windows than they used to be.
But then, so is Windows: Windows 3.0 had no taskbar that I remember. And the Start menu? What Start menu?
Linux didn't have a desktop anything like modern Windows. Microsoft didn't either. Now they both do. What does this tell us?
It tells us that developers in both camps looked for ways of improving the GUI, and because there are only a limited number of solutions to a problem, they often used very similar methods. Similarity does not in any way prove or imply imitation, even between Linux programs.
>>54201400
Does X11 not use Ctrl+V for paste?
Why are you using obsolete software Senpai
Join the Master Race
>>54193150
>what the fuck do I do
>Reinstall windows
>crack it using the DAZ loader or something similar
>never get force upgrade again
This is what I did on my machine and all family machines so microshaft finally shuts the fuck up.
>>54196191
They already added telemetry to Win7 so you may as well upgrade
