Fukushima disaster edition.
Previous thread: >>47617464
Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/post/49423737148/thinkpad-guide
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU+Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
http://service.lenovo.partner-management.com/et.cfm?eid=1369
The disease begins.
Really pleased with my X220, and I just ordered a T420 with a broken screen, since I have an M14X to gut for a replacement
>>47652777
In the last week I've bought an x60, two t400, a t61 and an x31. Help.
>>47652777
>>47652827
>tfw we're no better than macfags
X220 is my daily driver, T520 is the family laptop, and the T43 I just got yesterday is my side laptop. The T43 doesn't have an HDD and my SATA II ultrabay caddy is still in the mail.
Why the fuck did IBM and Lenovo put one RAM slot under the fucking keyboard and one on the underside on so many of their laptops? It was a royal pain in the ass to upgrade my T43's RAM because I have to take out the whole keyboard to get to the primary slot.
>>47653009
>tfw I'm an ex-MacFag
But at least I get to fuck around with the hardware and have a keyboard with a delete key.
I actually have an old EliteBook with the ram position like that. I was so confused at first.
>>47653009
>tfw i got two x200s because i couldn’t decide between 1440x900 screen and the affs screen.
/tpg/ anons and tripfags always talk about the X1 panel swap for the T420/30 but I have NEVER EVER seen a pic, webm or video of it in these threads or anywhere on the internet.
I'm not doubting all you cockbreaths and I have no plans on getting a T series chinkpad because I'm pretty satisfied with the X-series. I just want to see it in action nawmsayin?
i want a laptop i could use for music production/sound engineering,what do you think of the lenovo thinkpad W series ?
http://shop.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops/thinkpad/w-series/w550s/?sb=:00000025:00003AF7:
http://shop.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops/thinkpad/w-series/w541/#tab-tech_specs
they seem to have everything i need
>>47653225
>w series thinkpad
hahahaha
get a dell precision or hp zbook instead of that shit
>>47653213
>>47652777 here, I'll post pics of my panel swap when the T420 gets here.
>>47653246
may you tell why you dont like the w series ? overpriced ? gimmicks ? i wouldnt mind having a very long lasting laptop
>>47653213
There are pics, but it doesn't help if we take pictures using our spaghetti, shakey hands with our shitty moto g instead of the $1000+ canon camera which we NEETS clearly do not have.
>>47653225
I can't believe I'm going to say this, but an mbp/hackintosh is better in this situation. If the program you are planning to run is exclusively windows, then the w series would be great in terms of power, but you'll be the laughing stock cause "lol thinkpad no mac".
>>47653213
Go check 51nb forums, those chinese fucks are crazy good at tinkering with thinkpads. custom motherboards & ips 1080p panel in x220 are the two i remember.
>>47653344
i plan on using protools, what is mbp?.
also the speakers wont matter since i will be outputting audio through monitor speakers or headphones
>>47653294
simply not as good as the competition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSxWZz0GCus
the w541 is basically the same as the w540
the w550s is a fucking joke with ulv cpus
>>47653347
>1080p panel
>X220
muh dick
>>47653377
do you have experience with sound production or the likes ? if so what do you think is hands down the best laptop for that?
>>47653434
no but my dell precision did have a power plan that's supposed to be optimised for av work
dell & hp = better build quality and easier to upgrade
>>47653347
>tfw ching chong neckbeards BTFOs all the grand wizards at thinkpad forums when it comes to TP mods
>>47653444
really ? i have an hp laptop and the build is shite, and ive heard bad things about dell.
>>47653469
>comparing consumer line up vs business line up
that's a retarded thing to do, i can say thinkpads are shit because lenovos consumer line up are shit
don't drink the thinkpad koolaid
>>47653481
i dont think i was comparing anything, just asking questions, i dont know shit.
http://bestmusiclaptop.com/
be gentle im not in texas
>>47653481
You come into a thread specific to something and say it's objectively shit?
>>47653454
was that even English?
>>47653347
I seem to recall all the ambitious 51nb project results being seriously half-assed honestly. I mean, they're really hardcore but they shoot for the moon and pretty much always miss.
>>47653347
Yeah they can do some crazy shit. I also remember a guy on the German forums getting a 1080P screen on a T420, had to do some hardware modding as well modifying the bios for it to work. A X1 swap is a joke compared to that.
>>47653347
>1080p panel in x220
There's not even a simple guide for this.
I don't think it was even specified which Dell panel was used in the mod, other than the limited spec sheet that was given in that pic.
Poorfag NEET without their own computer here (desktop died, parts too old and shit to warrant salvaging). Figure I'd get a used laptop since new ones are expensive and consumer-grade shit.
Which ThinkPad should I get if I'm on an extreme budget (<= £200)? It'll be for near 24/7 use so preferably something with a big screen but not high DPI since they look like shit.
just got a x230, happy with it apart from the abysmal screen. how do you people put up with this shit?
do all x220/230s suffer from the loose top lid edge issue?
>>47655239
It's mostly a design issue. As long as you be nice to that area it'll hold up
>>47655194
The TN is terrible, the IPS is passable
>>47655329
yeah unluckily i've got a TN with an already wobbly lid. is there a feasible way to swap an IPS panel in?
Should I get an X220 or an X201?
Pros of the X220: IPS screen (potential). better hardware, better battery life
Cons: Dat 16:9 Screen
Pros of the x201: more room on screen, can upgrade to an AFFS apparently
Cons: Worse hardware, worse battery life
Not sure how much of a difference it makes. Most I'll do is probably stream music + type papers or just use it when I want some portable access to the internet. I'm grabbing something else with an IPS to be my entertainment laptop. (no older keyboard tho)
>>47653556
>new thinkpads are shit compared to dell/hp and older thinkpads
WOW THAT'S A FUCKING SURPRISE
>>47652737
source of your pic?
link to the video?
>>47656114
I love my x220. the IPS screen looks orders of magnitude better than my old t420's TN. and i get at least 6 hours of browsing with this old 9 cell battery.
>>47656300
Do you ever find yourself wishing the screen was 16:10? That is really the only thing hesitating. 16:9 at a small size seems pretty cramped to me.
What do you think about the the new L450 with Core I5 2,7 Ghz, 1080 IPS screen, 8gb of ram, 256SSD and AMD Radeon R5 M240, I'm planning to buy this laptop but I heard bad things on the L series...
What alternatives would you recommend for approx the same price ( 1000€ in Europe), I want the same performances and an upgradable computer ?
>>47656300
This is a worksafe board.
>>47656345
16:10 would be an improvement. But a higher resolution would be an even bigger improvement. I would definitely attempt to install a 1080 p or even 900p display if there was a good guide for it
You know the are using thinkpads because they are pieces of shit and they can just throw them away afterwards right?
>>47652737
what's all the hype about? how thinkpads are better than any other notebooks? i dont get it
>>47656423
very low price for the performance you can get. and they are sturdier than average. only downsides is they look archaic a.k.a. "ugly," if you care about that sort of thing. and the modern ones have questionable design choices and build quality.
>>47656349
whoa goy
this is a thinkpad thread
what are you doing here
>>47656523
I assume it's sarcasm, I never had a Thinkpad before and I really would like to know if the L450 is worth the price or if I would better go for something else (Lenovo or not).
>>47656825
ThinkPads worth buying:
T, W and X series (avoid any X1** models though)
ThinkPads not worth buying:
E, L series because they are sticking a thinkpad badge and a trackpoint on to a shitty laptop
>>47656840
>(avoid any X1** models though)
I have yet to see a reason why X1's are bad laptops. I understand why you don't consider them ThinkPads, but besides being ~200 dollars overpriced (like literally every other ultrabook on the market) I don't see the issue.
>>47656825
The answer is no. If you want a brand new laptop go for a t450s or an X1. There are literally no other lenovo laptops worth buying than those two.
Where can I cop a new trackpad for an X220? google isn't finding anything trustworthy. Found one on ebay that I like, but the trackpad is a little worn down on it.
I bought a chinese adapter on ebay that says it's 20V is that fine for my x201 or is it too high?
>see an x220 last night on craigslist is still up
>Gonna ask him about the IPS panel, looks like a good deal
>wake up
>deleted craigslist ad
>>47656300
lewd
>>47654812
T500/510/520, whatever you can find at your price limit.
Also at least go for a 1680x1050 or 1600x900 screen even if you aren't a DPI fanatic, I upgraded from 1280x800 to 1680x1050 and it's cramazing.
Also if you game at all get a GPU model. The GPUs aren't good but they're better than integrated.
>see x250 mentioned on /g/
>looks nice
>go check it on the lenovo site
>sweet, also starting at 800$ not bad
>no lenovo shop here so click on "where to buy"
>sends me to amazon
>cheapest x250 costs 1400 euro
Don't flame the fuck outta me for asking but, is a ThinkPad x100e worth having at this point in time? I can get one in great shape but it's an original one, manufactured way back in May of 2010, no functional issues, no major wear and tear on the body, everything works as expected, original 6-cell battery (didn't get a chance to check on the wear level but I'll do that later).
I know it's an older piece of hardware but, as a ThinkPad fan I find myself wanting to grab it just to say I've got one even in spite of it being a low-end device nowadays (well, to be honest it was ALWAYS a low-end device anyway).
Pricing like $60, might be able to talk 'em down to $50 or whatever.
>>47657194
Ebay. I think you'll have to replace the entire palmrest though.
>>47657375
craigslist Pro-tip: If you see an ad with something you're interested in, contact the fucker immediately, regardless of the time of day. Get your interest in there even if you have to wake the fucker up.
If they're selling and you're buying, the clock is ticking.
Is a X220 with 8gb memory and 160gb SSD worth €300?
>TN panel
>>47652777
Was that one of the $100 ones?
I was thinking about buying one of those and just leaving the broken screen in it and using it as personal server.
>>47657478
What did you expect when you went for the newest model on the X series...
We generally deal with older thinkpads so pricing won't be too bad.
>>47657783
It's a netbook with a trackpoint, you can't quite call it a thinkpad.
>>47657850
Seems alright, although is it specified what kind of SSD is that? I think with that capacity it might be a mechanical drive.
Anybody buy from arrow direct on ebay? They have a t430 for about tree fiddy, with a 250gb ssd(I checked the brand its okay), 8gb ram, 1600x900 panel, 9 cell, i5-3320m. Should I go for it? Adding an ssd and extra ram to a t420 would bet me about the same price.
Note: I don't care about the chucklet keys.
>>47657904
Well if you're gonna adopt that attitude, there hasn't been a proper ThinkPad since the T61 days, so there.
>>47657850
You can get a better deal, but it's not horrible. If you want USB3.0 you'll have to look for an i7 model. I'd also wait for an IPS model to pop up.
>>47657904
It's most likely the stock Intel SATAII SSD that came configurable with the X220 when ordering from lenovo. My X220 has the same SSD.
Halp /g/uys, have a few questions:
Does the T450s have less baatterylife than the T450?
Is there any difference b/n the T450 and T450s, other than that th T450s can do 1080p IPS ?
Is the T450 thicker, heavier?
Which one should i get?
>>47657933
http://m.ebay.com/itm/351364913948
Link
>>47657968
T450 can do IPS 1080p as well faggot
>>47657997
You are wrong. Not let people who know what they are talking about answer my questions,
>Halp /g/uys, have a few questions:
Does the T450s have less baatterylife than the T450?
Is there any difference b/n the T450 and T450s, other than that th T450s can do 1080p IPS ?
Is the T450 thicker, heavier?
Which one should i get?
What do you guys run on x61T if you have one?,
When I do a fresh install of w7 and on idle the temps are around 60C, I have cleaned the fan and replaced the thermal paste whats wrong?, What OS runs good on them?.
>>47657953
I don't quite get you, the x100e/x120e and so forth are netbooks with thinkpad branding and a trackpoint. Proper thinkpads are T/W/X series only (as far as newer ones go).
>>47657964
Good to learn a little, i knew it came with SSD's but didn't know what brand. Although the x220 is capable of SATA III speeds.
>>47657968
>>47658013
Your spelling is a little terrible, but let's get to the point;
The T450s is slimmer as the name implies,much lighter as a result and has an excellent IPS panel. Build quality is the same as the earlier T440s and T440 respectably.
Now as far as i know T450 can achieve a higher overall run time because it supports a larger battery (correct me if im mistaken)
>>47653367
mbp = macbook pro
what to run on my x61T, w7 gets around 60C on idle..
>>47653009
were better than macfags as we actually have functionality and a price to performance ratio in mind when we make our purchase decisions
>>47658155
Fuck you and your proper thinkpads faggot. My x120e was the best money I ever spent on a computer. That shit got me through so much. I put that poor thing through Solidworks, matlab, Altium and other demanding applications. Best $150 I ever spent. I feel guilty about selling it, like putting down your dog Check your privilege faggot.
What is the suggested route if I want an X series with IPS?
>>47658700
Well they do have considerably better build quality then most netbooks, but as a person who upgraded from a shitty Toshitba netbook to a T-series laptop all i can say is that it was worth it.
>>47658729
I guess the X220 has the best price/performance ratio nowdays.
>>47658794
>X220
will look into, thanks.
Blog posts starts here:
Currently sitting on an X200 and will keep it around until my batteries are either worn to the point where its not worth carrying, or there is some major hardware failure.
Having a dock to charge multiple batteries sure is nice
>>47657891
It wasn't. $210ish, but the screen was only "broken" in the sense that it had a dead pixel. It did come with 8GB RAM though, so it's a better deal than most on the 'Bay
>>47658729
>>47658853
Keep in mind that the X220 has a couple of design flaws. Notably the weak left corner above the expresscard slot and the weak lid panel thing at the top. Also the trackpad sucks dick if you're a faggot who uses it instead of the trackpoint.
>>47659537
I've used the X200 for so long that I can't go back to using a trackpad. Its a shame that it has durability issues though. Thanks for the info
How much should a standard x220 run me? How much should I be prepared to shell out for i5, 4 GB, and all that?
How much with either IPS or 8 GB?
Is it cheaper to upgrade myself normally?
Is the T430 better than the T420? If so, why?
>>47660509
It is one generation newer, so yes the hardware will be better.
>>47660509
The keyboard is different so people who can't afford a t430 or newer will tell you it's "not a thinkpad"
But ultimately newer = better
>>47659670
what thinkpad didn't have issues?
t2x series, ram slots fell off
t42 gpus cracked
t61p had faulty gpus
the list goes on
>>47660509
Better internal hardware+ USB 3.0 ports on the i5 model.
IMO the keyboard is personal preference, i personally own a T420 and i enjoy the keyboard.
>>47652737
>Fukushima Disaster Edition
Has anyone upgraded the RAM on an X220 to 16GB?
>>47660634
yes
how do you speed up your boot times?
I have an x201 with a pny ssd on xubuntu and it takes 15 seconds to boot up
is that fucking awful
>>47660870
that's pretty average
>>47660899
how fast do macs boot up
>>47660909
My mid-2012 MacBook Pro takes like 2 minutes.
>>47660909
depends on how old it is and hdd vs ssd
Pls respond.
Shot the guy an email about an x220 on eBay and told him to check the device manager to see if it was the IPS screen.
Turns out it is.
So, is a 320 GB HD laptop with 4 GB ram worth it at the price of 220? I would have to add ram, and perhaps replace the trackpad because it is a little worn down.
>>47661049
offer him 100 shekels
>>47661049
Does it have the 6-cell battery or extended 9-cell battery?
That's a pretty good price though.
>>47655899
Yeah.
Get the (B2) (S3) IPS model (email the seller and make sure it's the same exact model and IPS)
Then look up on youtube 'X230 or X220 Screen replacement'
It's not hard but a little bit of a pain in the ass
To fix the lid I think you need to replace the bezel and the back plastic which you can buy online also
>>47656349
Anything other than X, T or W series is shit.
Get one of those or an XPS 13 or 15 if you want higher res.
>>47656114
Get an X220. The battery life and SATA III is worth it. Plus better performance means it will last you a lot longer.
>>47656345
Comparing my X230 to X200 side by side the difference is suprisingly little. Like half a centimetre less vertically and one centimetre more horizontally. I do sometimes wish for 16:10 but it's not as much as a problem I would have thought it would be. Just auto-hide toolbars and the rest of it so that you get maximum vertical space
>>47657783
For $50 I would get it. Sweet deal. Depends on how much use you would get out of it though.
>>47661071
>>47661071
I dunno if that would work. I wish though, man.
>>47661135
Probably 6 cell, but I'm operating under the idea of replacing the battery somewhere anyways.
It ends in a few hours, so I'll give it a bit of thought. Maybe even shoot him an offer on it if it ends unsold.
>>47657783
nope when you can get a X200/s for ~$60. Even more nope if that x100e is the single core model.
What i care about
>price
What i dont care about
>screen
T450 or T450s ?
>>47661888
I mean T450 in general because the s series are locked down, but if price is an issue and screen isn't, why not consider a cheaper thinkpad like a T430?
>>47661888
the whole point of these threads is to buy cheap secondhand machines because they are a good value
Is this the best X230 on the planet?
>>47662162
could have 2x 1TB SSD's
Reminder to get your free batteries
http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122
>>47662170
Fair point! Would probably cost the same as the price of the X230 on it's own though.
>>47662162
>no hybrid drive
>no WWAN option
>no wifi n/ac
>no SD card
tip kok.
>>47661971
>>47661888
>>47662055
I *need* an ssd. AND i need it to be less than 600$
I got the choice of a T450 with HD+ screen an i3 5010 and 128gb ssd for 557$
The SSD is a must because it's for a relative of mine who has a disability that ends up with him using his electronics really roughly. NEed it to last. For this reson, i was afraid a used one wouldn't last as long.
>>47662295
Why would I want a hybrid drive when I have a 256GB mSata for my OS, and a 2TB mech drive for my other gubbins?
I had to take the 3G card out to put the mSata in, and 144Mbps WiFi is fast enough for me.
SD card?!
>>47662382
>wasting mpcie port on a fucking ssd
You could've got both ssd with hdd and 3g+GPS options
>>47662362
Argueably the T450 does have slightly better build quality, but then again the T430 has a better overall build quality and is cheaper by far. Even if it comes without an SSD you can throw one yourself and save a few shekels.
>>47662425
I had the 3G for 12 months. Used it once and it was costing me £7.50/month for a SIM card.
Horses for courses.
>>47662425
>hybrid drives
>all the cons of SSD's plus the cons of HDD's
I hope you don't actually own an SSHD yourself
>>47662362
Well again, you can get an older Thinkpad with a larger ssd and an i5 (which I bet is more powerful than that i3 I bet) in your price range.
Just throwing out ideas though. If you are set on the T450 go for it.
>>47661071
You can't negotiate on ebay. I mean c-can you?
>>47662487
SSHD != hybrid drives
This is a hybrid drive: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=1190
>>47661178
Awesome. Thanks for the advice, went with the X220. Found an okay deal on it.
>>47661049
>>47661071
>>47661135
I bought the fucker. I reason that if I can't clean up the touchpad, that is only a 6 buck replacement from what I could tell, the keyboard should only run me ~30-40 bucks, and upgrading the ram by 4 GB should be pretty cheap as well.
Investing in a model with an IPS screen and upgrading it was more important than having the rest and upgrading the screen myself, because now I don't have to deal with finding a reseller that won't give me something with dead pixels.
Cheers, gentlemen. I'm going to pick up a yoga 14 as well tomorrow. Set for life.
>>47662643
X220 and X230 can't take 9.5mm drives
and yes, SSHD = hybrid drives
hybrid drive =/= dual drive
Are there any decision charts for a newfag? There are too many models.
>>47662720
I've got an ST2000LM003 in my X230. It was a *very* tight fit but it's in there. Not sure I'll ever get it out!
>>47662772
The sticky.
>Figure out if you want X type, T Type, or W type.
>Okay, do I need newer hardware? If yes, get a xx40 or xx50
>I don't really need newer hardware. In fact, Iwant a solid machine, and I can upgrade what I need
>Get an xx20 or an xx30, swap out screen for better one if T420 or T430
>Do I want a bigger screen? If yes, get an x5xx. If not, Get an x4xx
There you go champ.I'd rec the T430, even though I don't have one. Seems like a solid laptop in general. Dumb keyboard layout though, so might consider a T420 or even an X220 if you want something more compact
>>47662785
>>47662852
Thanks. What are you opinions on T vs X series?
>>47663103
T-series bigger, cheaper, have Ultrabays which can take a CD/DVD drive or a second hard drive caddy.
X-series smaller, lighter, longer battery life.
>>47663103
Depends on your needs. One is portable, the other is slightly less portable.
>>47662251
not so easy
>>47663157
X series also have soldered CPUs. T series have upgradable CPU, you can drop quad core into the t420
>>47663329
Same here t420 unaffected
:(
I have a really old IBM ThinkPad 600e it has a old Intel Pentium II that is like 300MHz? Is there Any thing useful or is it worth any money?
>>47663699
trash
Just bought a T420 off ebay for $220.
This'll be the first time I've owned more than one computer at once in my sad life. I'm looking forward to having good portable computing power.
/blog
>>47659537
>weak left corner above the expresscard slot
Can be solved by sticking any expresscard thing into the slot.
>>47660634
Officially it supports 8GB, but many people have reported that it works with 16GB
>>47661888
>cares about price
>wants newest model
lel
>>47662454
>Argueably the T450 does have slightly better build quality,
> but then again the T430 has a better overall build quality
Explain please?
>>47662540
Is there any reason someone would go for a T450 with a weaker processor, instead of a T430 wih a stronger processor?
>tfw waiting for Thinkpad w700 WUXGA LCD Screen 2 CCFL from USPS
>Says it supposed to be delivered today and in transit but it's 8:00PM
>I fucking hate USPS
doesn't even matter if I get it today anyways because I have to wait ~2 weeks for the inverter that I ordered from ebay that's shipping from china.
>>47664831
No, it "officially" supports 16GB because the CPU supports it.
It was only offered with up to 8GB at the time though because 8GB DDR3 modules were new and very expensive.
>>47660634
it really depends on the cpu, as you could look up the specs for the cpu and see what it supports.
My T61p's GPU finally shit the bed (thanks, nVidia!) I also have a newer laptop, but it's not that nice and I've had so much driver trouble I want to get rid of it.
It's been a while since I've shopped for a Thinkpad or a laptop in general, but what could I expect for $500 these days? Pretty much my only absolute requirement is a >=1080p display.
>>47660591
still much better than the typical consumer hardware. Keep in mind that you hear the issues more for business lines because they are actually needed for something besides facebook.
>>47657904
>netbook with a trackpoint
FUCK YEAH THAT SOUNDS FUCKING AWESOME HOLY FUCK I WANT ONE FUCK
>>47663333
Only T series without 's' suffix have socketed processors. Also does the T440p
>>47665052
3-year onsite warranty. Although you can find some used T430's with warranty.
>>47653347
>51nb
http://www.51nb.com/viewnews-96587.html
>>47666008
Good to know thank you. Really glad I didn't get a t420s now
>>47666600
has somebody managed to fit a decent IPS screen in a T430/420?
>>47666782
Read the wiki, you can get an X1 carbon on them I believe.
>>47665034
The older chassis they used on the T series had bigger and more robust steel hinges, AKA they could survive more torture.
In other terms, the T430 is overall more sturdy then the T440/T450. Models with "s" suffix have slightly worse build quality and thermal issues (overheating+heat spreading)
Just buy the T430 and if it doesn't have a SSD throw one in yourself you dope.
>>47665176
T520 if you want the older layout keyboard, T530 otherwise.
I think with your money the best you could try to get is a W520, if you're lucky enough to score one with a FHD panel.
What's the best linux distro to run on a T60? I'm using Debian right now, but I'm not very happy with it. My neckbeard skills are regrettably lacking, so pls no gentoo or arch. I just want something I can use for programming and general productivity.
