ITT: Useless tech that you still want
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ITT: Useless tech that you still want
>>55580967
Stop reading my mind. I was thinking of that W-series laptop and thought about that extra screen for reference images/social media while working on projects.
That Wacom pad also great, why didn't they just make it into the touchpad as one whole pad? The new intuos tablets are basically that. Also.
>Apple Duel
>>55580967
Its a dressed up x61s. There is no reason to have one besides the fact its rare.
I might be getting one next week for $100 + shipping.
>>55581013
>implying logic has any bearing on wanting the shiny cool thing
>>55581048
I know, there are many things i want to get just because they look nice. I have a TiBook just because of that that i never use, it just sits on a shelf looking nice and i occasionally play bugdom on it.
I also sort of want to collect thinkpads. No idea why i want that as a hobby, but i do.
>>55580967
A lapdock 500 and a lapdock 100 for my aging droid bionic
Pretty much everything in these videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqyoO4eajXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQEOvLeLfTw
>>55580967
A ThinkPad, something about the rugged black plastic just get's me.
What are the least shit 16:10 - 12-14" ThinkPads with IPS screen?
>>55580967
Is there any other thinkpad that has this dual screen set up?
It's bretty cool.
A loaded ThinkPad A31p with all of the silly weird-ass expansion options like the UltraBay numpad.
I'd actually probably get some use out of it.
>>55580967
I've always wanted a Color Classic but I'd really have no use for one. I dream of being able to go back in time and use one when it was still modern.
>>55581013
>I might be getting one next week for $100 + shipping.
where did you find this?
post link
>>55581571
I just love how the whole front is designed to match the horizontal curvature of the Sony Trinitron CRT.
>>55581571
It was never modern, even at release.
What a slow-ass machine. It'd have flew under System 6, but you can only go back as far as 7.1 on it, and System 7 is a fucking fat hog in comparision.
lower the color depth as much as possible so shit doesn't repaint quite so slowly
It's a nice looking piece of kit though. It's super cute.
>>55581601
Craigslist
ill post about it in /tpg/ once i get it. Im waiting for payday (tomorrow) before i even contact the guy So i dont know if h will even ship it or if i will have to pay a friend thatt lives in that state to get it and ship it to me.
It has no hdd, battery and a bad screen but i can fix that shit. Too bad nobody makes the cable needed for the high res mod anymore. At least i cant seem to find it.
>>55581571
>>55581602
I played around with daily driving a 68k box recently, it actually wasn't as bad as you'd think, spent most of my time on it making shitty astronomical models in Mathematica, some documents in Word/Excel, working on university assignments through SSH and lurking the SDF bulletin board.
I mean, obviously they're nowhere near as snappy and convenient as a system made in the last ten years, but if the internet (and all of my other machines) went up in smoke tomorrow I don't think I'd shrivel up and die.
>>55581642
Yeah, those things would have been ass unless you needed/really wanted something super small. Did they even offer FPUs with them?
>>55581689
Where the fuck did that image come from???
Whatever, at least it's a useless thing that I want.
>>55581706
just get a getac x500 server anon
>>55581571
I miss the volume + brightness buttons on beige AIO macs. It'd be cool if modern iMacs had capacitive brightness + volume buttons on the front of its body, makes more sense than those controls being on the keyboard IMO.
>>55581659
>>55581642
The internet is what I live for... so I can't imagine using a machine too old to do some internet browsing on.
Up until about 14 months ago I was using a ThinkPad from 2002 as my daily driver and I managed to get by with it for many years.
By that token I think I would've been okay with using a Color Classic as a daily driver back in the day. I know I can have some patience.
>>55581724
>modern iMacs
Apple is over. Enjoy your iOS X
>>55581724
I hated those, they felt pretty cheap
also
>capacitive buttons
>>55581032
What's up with that splash screen?
>>55581719
Those do seem better.
I just like the idea of having a truly apocalypse-ready system even though I'll probably never need one. I've got a P3 Toughbook at the moment that's pretty hefty, thinking of repacking the battery and ordering new rubber seals for it and such to make it semi-waterproof again.
>>55581726
Me too, and the browser selection for those things is shit. I ran an old version of NetScape on mine, could actually go here with it but even the JS-free captcha wouldn't work and it would run out of memory before the page finished loading.
I've thought of making some kind of web portal that scrapes news and the like from popular websites as a fun experiment, but it's probably a little involved for me.
There's always this:
http://www.os2museum.com/wp/surfing-modern-web-with-ancient-browsers/
>>55581825
chink mobo mod. it has a 5th gen (iirc) i5 in it.
>>55581214
X201 Tablet or AFFS modded X200 are pretty much your only options going by that criteria. You really have to go bigger to get good screens on Thinkpads. 15" T60p has 1600x1200 IPS. The R50p is said to offer 2048x1536 IPS, but good fucking luck ever finding one.
I know it would be a huge Pussy deflector, and it's really limited, but AR seems pretty cool.
>>55581875
>googlel ass
>google anal ytics
>>55581869
>The R50p is said to offer 2048x1536 IPS
I thought the R series was the budget/shitbox line, what the fuck is up with that?
>>55581869
I saw some of the 2048x1536 panels for sale back in the day, and some T60s with said panels installed in them, but I don't think I ever saw an actual factory QXGA R50p.
One of the QXGA T60s I saw was listed on eBay with a ridiculously low Buy it Now price. I could've easily snagged it but I didn't, mainly because my eyesight isn't good enough to see anything at default sizes at such a high PPI and I absolutely loathe having to deal with scaling for everything (and back then the scaling situation was far, far worse).
>>55581869
X201 tablet was my pick so far, although the resolution seems a tad too low. How is the cooling, especially the noise?
And what about X300? Sure it's not IPS but 1440x900 is pretty decent, I only worry about the CPU a bit. Not planning to do anything beyond Office on it but it'd be annoying if even that ran like shit.
>useless tech
I'll just leave this here:
http://hackaday.com/2016/07/13/nirvana-like-youve-never-heard-them-before/
>>55582101
Can't speak about noise but I know all the tablet models get pretty toasty. I don't think it'll actually overheat unless the thermal paste is fucked, so replace that immediately if you do get one. OEM paste is awful and will definitely be dried out by now.
X300 has good resolution, but from what I've heard it's a pretty bad panel regarding color and viewing angles. The CPU is also almost completely useless nowadays. I'm not sure if the X301's screen is any better, but at the very least its Penryn CPU is workable.
>>55582392
Oh, X301 seems pretty interesting, and I had a weaker Core SU7300 before, so performance should suffice.
http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/lenovo-thinkpad-x301-review/
and at least going by brightness it's almost as good as my current one.
How easy/hard would it be to replace the optical drive with another SSD? The availability of the right parts sounds tricky.
>>55580967
Anything with an Apple logo because I want to smash it.
>>55582587
>>/v/
>>55580967
Ubuntu touch.
I know it's worse than Android, but It's so cool!
>>55581826
>>55581724
>>55581659
>>55581602
>>55581571
Make a old computer thread for your shit and stop derailing the thread.
>>55584045
>make a thread for your thread related discussion so you don't derail this one
u wot
>desktop Pentium 4 CPU in a laptop what could possibly go wrong
>>55584115
>floppy drive
srsly?
>>55584125
>old laptops have old technology
whodathunkit
>>55584125
welcome to 2004 US school and corporate systems
>>55581515
do want
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-W700ds-Thinkpad-Dual-Screen-Wacom-17-Screen-2xHDD-DVD-Color-Cal-W700-/302012129288?hash=item4651536008:g:xoEAAOSwbYZXc0R5
>>55584232
Specs aren't nearly as bad as I expected.
>>55584045
Isn't the entire point of these blog threads so you can post stupid shit you want and discuss it with other people? What's the fun in just spamming images with no replies?
>>55584115
I wish these things had better graphics options than just the Intel integrated and I think a somehow even shittier FX 5200, they seemed exploitable as a mobile workstation platform.
>>55584125
Flash drives were pricy as shit if all you wanted to do was just give someone a word document or some contact info.
>>55584247
>tfw my current laptop has an FX Go5200
>>55584257
How is it (in context)? Was there even a point?
>>55584274
I've never had any issues with it, it can even handle Doom 3
>>55584166
What is that floor? It looks like Generic Futuristic Tile from some anime set in the far future - do want.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Integrity-Superdome-A5201A-SX2000-32x-Itanium2-1-6Ghz-64GB-LEFT-Server-/232006847885
because my current furnace can't run VMS with 20 year uptime
>>55584347
Itanium hasn't even been a thing for 20 years. You should go for an Alpha model
>>55584323
it's the ISS so likely not a floor but storage
>>55584362
I see. I want my floor to be storage, too.
oqo (someone make modern version please)
thinkpad x62
>>55584361
GS1280s are rarer than shit and aren't as nice looking though if you ask me
also Alphas post-Compaq acquisition seem kind of phoned in, HP just rehashed the same old design and then ultimately shitcanned them in 2k7, at least the Itanium was a decent HPC chip for a while before Intel started half-assing them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLj3aCfqzOM
>>55584432
Why? A Raspberry Pi is $35.
>>55584495
exactly
>>55584495
you can't deny that they look like total ass though
>>55584527
Yes you can.
You can't deny that cases exist.
>>55584542
and most raspberry pi cases trade the ugly exposed PCB look for the appearance some children's dollar store toy
>>55584527
Get a case + USB NES controller, still ends up cheaper and you can play more than 30 games.
>>55584562
>most
So get one that doesn't. Or try being creative for once. My SBC's in a slim PlayStation 2 case
>>55584564
nobody here is really going to argue that it isn't a cheaper or more effective route from a perspective of pure utility, there's a reason it's called a "useless shit you still want" thread and not a "useless shit I want and think is better than everything for everything" thread
>>55584579
or I could just get something else that looks and behaves exactly the way I want it to instead of wasting my time on some ugly ass hack job
even with a good case, Pis by design will always be ugly as shit, simply due to the port layout and the tiny size
>>55584625
Sure thing kid
>>55584632
>I have no further constructive points to contribute to the discussion so I'll just pout and softly cry in the corner
gotta love the that feeling of accomplishment
>>55584655
More like
>I'm too busy enjoying my night to put effort into arguing with a dumbass piece of shit on the Internet
mechanical GPU
>>55584663
>I give up but I still must have the last word
keep the tears coming I've got all night
>>55584625
There are plenty examples of useless tech that's not bad at what it does. The NES Mini isn't useless, it's just outclassed in every possible way by cheaper equipment.
>>55584691
What the fuck is up with this attitude lately?
>lol he disagrees with me he's obviously assblasted
Go eat a dick you fucking summerfag. Enjoy your summer while it lasts, middle school's right around the corner.
>>55584702
don't disagree, I'm not even really trying to defend that abomination, I'm just saying I understand why someone might be interested in it, an extra $15 isn't a lot of money, and if you have no interest in doing anything other than playing some of those 30 included titles and then throwing it in the drawer, who really gives a shit
>>55584706
but see, if you weren't assblasted, you would have offered more discussion up instead of brainless whining and throwing retarded ad hominem attacks at a "dumbass piece of shit on the internet" that you supposedly don't care about
>>55584762
>but see, if you weren't assblasted, you would have offered more discussion up
See >>55584663
>>55584779
Kek, owned
>>55584779
then why the fuck are you wasting your precious time filling out captchas and typing out dumbass one-liners when you can be enjoying your night or discussing something you care about elsewhere on the site?
right
>because I MUST have the last word!
thinking there's more than one summerfag ITT tonight
>>55584816
>then why the fuck are you wasting your precious time
Because I don't like you.
>thinking there's more than one summerfag ITT tonight
Probably, I'm sure you're not the only one.
>>55584816
Not him but
>filling out captchas
>not 4chan plus
this is rather entertaining
>>55584824
>I'm totally not assblasted guys!
lmao
>>55580967
>manuals
>reference images
>command line
>irc
>video conferencing
>live debugging
>web browser
>extra horizontal space for audio/video editing
so much fucking potential
>>55584848
lmao yeah u got me anon I'm curled up in a ball crying in a corner because some twelve year old autist posted something I disagree with on the Internet
>>55584855
Yup
>>55584872
>and yet he's still replying
a reddit frog for your trouble
>>55584887
Not him but, you're a funny asshat, not my type of troll though.
>>55584887
>replies = tears
You're literally retarded, aren't you?
>>55584887
gtfo newfag
>>55584895
>>55584902
>I don't have time to discuss this
>but I have time to endlessly reply with one-liners because THE LAST WORD ALWAYS WINS!
look what you've done, now I have to crack open the reserve, I had this one imported all the way from KC ca. 2014
yes, they do get better with age
>>55584925
I never said I didn't have time. I said you weren't worth the effort to actually try. With every post you're just making the fact that I was right more obvious.
>>55584950
>I said you weren't worth the effort to actually try.
but I'm worth the effort to... reply
>>55584925
>>55584955
>>55584950
Stop derailing the thread faggots
>>55584955
Exactly. I don't mind pointless banter with a child that's being a twat but I'm not going to put any effort into arguing with such a shitstain.
>>55584971
no u
>>55584971
just a little longer, I'm feeling a little nostalgic
>>55584975
>it's just banter!
you're on a roll tonight
>>55584971
How's the housefire?
Keeping you warm?
>>55584955
kek
>>55584997
Yeah, it wasn't the best word to use, but you could barely call it an argument. It's basically just me shitting on a middle school shitposter
>>55585014
the only thing you're taking a shit on right now is your own dignity
>>55585023
Nah
>>55585023
>dignity
>>55585030
see??? there goes another turd, all over it! how can you not see this calamity occurring right before your eyes?
>>55585046
Confirmed for being literally retarded
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>>55581167
>illumnadi pc
2spoopy
>>55585064
but the thing is retardation would render it quite difficult for me to keep a handle on my impressive toad reserves, you'd be amazed how difficult it can be to catalog and preserve them
>>55584997
>gemt
>>55581167
I've been looking for one of those Packard Bell abominations forever, they look cool as fuck.
>>55580967
>this thread
Sun Ultra Workstation
>>55585363
sun workstations and servers looked nice desu
>>55585363
if only didn't still want thousands of dollars for the 45s, seems like they will be unusable by the time the prices comes down
seriously considering getting a blade 2500 though, they're affordable enough to justify and practically the same except they lack PCI express slots
>>55585084
Not him but retards usually have special powers, like super math or sorting skills, exactly like your toad folder.
>>55580967
This is not even bait. I dont really need it, so its useless to me, its old as fuck and wont run well without an SSD upgrade, but I want it so bad.
>inb4 buy newer one
Only have the money for this or something older, used.
>in b4 16 gigs of ram
>>55584166
Which chinkpads are these?
>>55585653
A31p I think.
>>55585555
that is autism, not retardation
t: autist
>>55585653
This guy >>55585678 is correct, they replaced the 760XDs they were using before according to https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/space/space_thinkpad.html
>>55585678
>>55585804
Thanks guys. Also I want to buy an older thinkpad because I need a portable device for work, though Im quite limited.
Thinking about a T430 or T420 used. Bad idea?
>>55585823
Not a bad idea, they're probably the sweet spot for affordable used laptops.
>>55585876
Thanks again, m8. Will watch a few more reviews and then probably buy the T430 for about 250$ or so.
IBM Netvista X40, really liked it as piece of industrial design.
Useless, but it would look cool as fuck when playing music.
>>55585339
I have Colani big tower.
>>55584125
underage detected storage was expensive as fug back in the day
>>55586199
>Nixielyzer
>>55585363
Workstation is nice, SPARC PowerBook is better
>>55586421
UltraSPARC IIi processor, 4 GB ECC Memory, Dual Giga Bit Ethernet, SCSI and Solaris
>>55584166
>you will never be shitposting from space using your riced thinkpad
why live
>>55586466
My gayming PC 6 years ago beat that.
>>55581013
HOLY SHIT THAT THINKPAD
IM ALL WET
>>55586533
Hopefully the leather on the one i'm getting isnt too bad, the pictures in the ad are literal thumbnails.
>>55586518
>My gayming PC 6 years ago beat that.
UltraSPARC IIi was 1997 ...
>>55586589
That's what I mean, you have better shit now for cheaper.
>>55586556
Why didn't you ask for better pictures?
>>55586630
read >>55581653
I dont have the money (that ultra poorfag life) and i dont want to waste the guys time. If its gone when i email him tomorrow so what, but its been up for over a week and is in the middle of nowhereland. Even if the leather is shit I'm getting it
>>55586677
Kek, glad that never happened
Ayo hol up
>>55586865
SGI master race
Novell need some love too.
>>55586677
>angled function keys
I never knew I needed this in my life, but now I really, really do
>>55586267
>ultraportables
I don't know why but I fucking love these things, especially the old, tiny, underpowered ones that would run for dozens of hours on a couple of AA batteries
>>55581515
"Enemy spotted, engaging"
>>55586962
>angled function keys
Haven't you seen an ST before?
>>55587011
>transformer that looks like a router
>>55587484
topkek
>>55581214
my wife's T500 has an excellent screen
she uses it to check her bank statements once a day for 5 minutes
>thinkpad livin' the life of a patrician
>>55585135
Hey! I have one of those. (Well, somewhere in the dumpster that is our family garage)
>>55585339
What the fuck is that joystick?
>>55586909
The Turbo Vision GUI is still sexy
>>55586421
>not a bullfrog with dual 1.2 GHz US IIIs and full-length PCI slots
can't even find a picture worth a shit they're so rare
>>55586518
this is bait and all but seriously who gives a fuck
>>55586267
sweet aesthetic
Lisp machine with a Space Cadet keyboard.
Dual-processor Ultra 60s are really cheap now.
>>55586181
I want a T221 for that exact reason
>>55581689
I simultaneously want it so much and know it would suck and be pointless.
>>55581515
Aaaaaaaand takeoff
For some reason I want this case. Its far to small, but I want it...
>>55580967
one day
>>55596511
>useless
>>55595761
How hard would it be to get one of those?
>>55584505
i had one of these a while back, loved the shit out of it, powerhungry beast tho
>>55580967
Lightscribe
>>55580967
non, i want to get rid of useless tech
If only Ebay wasn't so jew-laden
>>55599983
I can lightscribe on normal CD/DVD's with a modded drive, of course, the disc's don't work anymore but look pretty.
I'm not even sure if my HD598 need a proper DAC/Amp combo. Probably not, but I still want it to be sure.
>>55586421
On a similar note.
Although I guess if you want a PowerPC notebook, you'd go for PowerBooks.
decent looking machine for the time
>>55602050
envious as shit when I was growing up.
>>55602050
>tfw they go for about $150 when in good condition.
I dont need any more old macs anyways
>>55598271
it's true though ;_;
>>55601843
Buy some old HP laptop for little money, like a HP615. they have Lightscribe drives.
>>55587484
That keyboard is garbage. Fucking garbage... I fucking hate it.
>>55602436
Yeah, really sucks. The only OS 9 booting Mac laptops that are cheap and abundant these days are the white iBook G3s and while those are still cool little machines, they're a little too modern looking to be interesting and have issues with the GPU disconnecting if you let its case flex too much.
>>55603548
Funny how much opinions differ on keyboards. I use a cherry blue board and a topre board but don't mind Apple's desktop keyboards at all. What I really hate are the chintzy $10 chiclet keyboards a lot of people have and the sad excuses for keyboards on <$800 laptops.
>>55603548
If it's the Magic keyboard you're spot on, if not, that's one of the best feeling keyboards available.
>>55603637
>chintzy $10 chiclet keyboards
Thats exactly what those Aplel desktop keyboards are, fagboi.
>>55603637
You can rarely cop a decent 1st/2nd gen TiBook for under $50 on ebay.
Here is one at $70 that looks nice though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Powerbook-G4-Titanium-M8407-15-2-550Mhz-512MB-40GB-SuperDr-10-4-11-9-2-/252459467698?hash=item3ac7c1c3b2:g:X80AAOSwAPlXhdZK
Pic related cost me $40 and is the same specs as the linked one. I already had 10.4 and 9.2.2 lying around and just cloned them off my G4 tower.
>>55602040
PowerPC Thinkpad?! WTF does it run? Can it also run OS 9 or X with hacks?
>>55603725
Windows NT
>>55580967
some laptop that has a keyboard that opens along the middle to reveal a second screen underneath. forgot the name though.
>>55603687
preordered one, I'm not sure what I will actually do with it
I barely use my phone except as a passive device
but at least it will be GNOO Loonix
>>55603732
What can you even run on a PPC Windows?
>>55603700
Nah there's definitely a difference. The keys on the apple boards press down fairly uniformly and the key caps are decently thick. The $10 chiclet boards I've used on the other hand have near zero uniformity (key corners can be pressed down entirely without registering a key press) and the key caps feel paper thin. The cheap boards also have a tendency to walk around the desk from being so light which is annoying as fuck.
Like I said, I use a cherry board and a topre board. Apple chiclets aren't my preferred typing devices but there's far worse out there. They're decent enough to live with for the first week or two after changing jobs while waiting for the company to get you something better.
>>55603725
>>55603732
Also
>Can it also run OS 9 or X with hacks?
Probably not, that has ARC firmware and PowerPC Macs use Open Firmware
>>55603750
Run PowerPC Windows applications
>>55603702
Fun fact: Early TiBooks are just Pismos with a different case and a G4 soldered into the CPU socket. Same motherboard and everything. If you get ahold of someone's aftermarket-G4-upgraded Pismo you've basically got a more expandable TiBook
>>55603775
>Run PowerPC Windows applications
Sooo, basically notepad and internet explorer
>>55603801
I'm sure whoever purchased such a product had programs to run on it. It's not like it was just a general purpose laptop for the average joe
>>55603757
The apple chiclets have flat keys dude. You are meming hard to defend it with uniform key presses and your mech kebyoard experience. They are objectively terrible compared to tons of nicer chiclet keyboards on the market.
>>55603879
>useless
Also we don't need even more tripfags.
>>55603725
No, the firmware is too different.
>>55603732
Most of the ones I've seen run AIX, they did ship with NT as well though, but they would have been pretty useless in that regard.
>>55603801
They could run x86 applications through emulation, but it was slower than just buying a faster 7 series for a couple grand less. As >>55603821 said anyone who purchased the NT models probably just compiled their own in-house applications on them, but I doubt they sold a significant amount of them for that.
The Kno: dual-screen 14″ tablet aimed at students
>>55585632
neat
>>55603888
I started tripfagging in 2012 though.
>>55585632
I went to an old TV/electronics store in the middle of rural nowhere and they had a similar storage tube terminal in the back room, I didn't know what it was at the time so I didn't inquire into it too much.
Did buy a bunch of still new-in-the-box Z80s, 8080s, 8086en and some other old DIP microprocessors for a dollar each though.
>>55603941
Well stop
>>55603850
Well I don't doubt that there's better chiclet boards out there, but I certainly haven't used them. Out of the chiclets I *have* used, Apple's is one of the better ones.
I don't really see much point in chiclet keyboards on the desktop, honestly. The space savings isn't too useful when you have a desk, particularly if you're using a tenkeyless or 60% board or something of that nature.
>>55603938
Huh, actually decent specs for its age.
>>55603981
There are 2 on ebay right now with $200 BiN.
>>55580967
The OQO Model 2, just because it's small as hell and I could almost use it, so long as the CPU isn't complete trash.
>>55581013
>>55581032
I own and use an X60, though the battery, according to the meter "Can only store 28% of a full charge," probably a sign I should replace it.
>>55603984
afaik its was too heavy and too expensive and never made it to the market
>>55601879
No it doesn't, impedance is 50 ohms. If you had something like 250 ohm DT990s then you might need one of those. But usually a cheap dac is enough for that.
>>55604132
Yeah, the iPad killed it. Dual screen is cool, but not for $800.
>>55581659
Is that a PowerBook 180? I've got two of those, was using the working one earlier this morning (SimEarth B&W, doens't have enough installed RAM for SimLife, and not enough disk space for virtual memory).
Backlight's got some issues with dimming from the corners after running it too long, but that's fine.
Last time I seriously used it was roughly 2002 to write an 8th grade book report. Brought the laptop and the external color monitor in to do the presentation in Microsoft Word 5.1 I believe.
Good times...
I'm tempted to get an old Mac Mini, for no good reason. I'd probably get either the late 2009 one that can run Yosemite (not so useless!), or cheap out and get the original G4 one.
I suppose it could make a nice quiet server/HTPC type thing.
If Sony made this around 300USD I would consider it
Too bad that company's marketing department lives on another planet
>>55604162
You could get a G4 and use it as your main machine, far from useless
>>55584115
Sounds like the Dell Inspiron 51x0 series (and Latitude 100L) to me.
Maybe the IBM one ended up better? I've got a 5160, and it's alright I guess.
Battery life is shit, though. Can't tell if it's age or Pentium 4 and GeForce FX5200 + 1400x1050 display.
NeXTstation, we had some at work in the early 90s
>>55585135
>weird shape
>massively under powered
>inconvenient
>not up gradable
I want one, and my local recycling place gets tons of old systems like this, but I've got nowhere to put it, unfortunately.
>>55604170
Remind me whats that products name again?
>>55585339
With that controller, reminds me of the FM Towns-Marty.
>>55604269
digital paper
>>55604179
Awesome. I just gave in and ordered one for $40
>>55604269
"Sony Digital Paper"
Sony DPT-S1
>>55586267
Holy shit, I've got 3 50CTs and a 70CT.
They're actually really cool, should you be able to get drivers and a good battery, and so long as you can tolerate the push-stick mouse.
The 70CT runs Windows 2000 very well for what it is, though the drivers for video don't really exist.
>>55603922
That's like one of those pictures with a small girl and a big guy with a huge dick.
>>55604085
>>55603879
>useless
They make perfect network debugging machines, fuck I used to crack and sniff with a N900, far less powerful than those.
>>55594467
MTi M668 Stallion motherboard, dual Pentium IIs.
Buggy as all hell, but cool to look at.
>>55602050
I always wanted an iMac G3...
Had one for a while, played something like two games of ChessMaster 3000 and it almost literally caught fire.
Still want another one, though, because I suspect that it was the fact it had come out of a barn (literally as well) that killed it so quickly.
>>55604239
I would buy the hell out of a modern workstation class machine that could fit underneath my monitor like that. Too bad nobody makes them (or even cases that would allow one to build such a machine himself).
>>55604333
I know, but I don't do network debugging, I do light gaming (think having 4 games of solitaire open at once, plus an "easy" setting Minesweeper) and document editing.
Would be handy for long trips, though. Also, I love UMPCs, which is why:
>>55604315
>I cannot believe I forgot about the Sony Vaio systems.
>>55604370
I picked one up from a thrift shop a few months ago for $35. Turns out the optical drive is dead, and it's the tray-loader model which is so old that it can't boot from USB. So I'm stuck with an install of OS 9 that's cluttered with the previous owner's files, AOL, and all that sort of shit.
>>55604392
"Slim" cases are still a thing. I suppose they aren't square anymore, though.
Sometimes you can find them with external power bricks, so the case can be even smaller.
>>55604344
I've got a quad-slot Xeon workstation already, some dual-slot/socket P6 boxes too. They're pretty nice, if only the "modern" home use cases you can use them for like web browsing don't have any multithreaded options on Win2k/NT.
I have a rather sentimental fondness for the beige Ultras though, brings back the excitement of a job shadowing at a semiconductor fab I did back in highschool, so many Ultra 30s and pizza boxes, they just had a really nice, professional but still unique and memorable look to them.
Plus it would blow the fuck out of the gimped SPARC gear I have now. What were they thinking shipping the Blade 100 when they did?
>>55604448
Stick a flash drive in that motherfucker and pull all the shit you don't want off of it, I don't think classic Mac OS deteriorates over time like Windows did from personal experience.
>>55604448
I bought mine for $6.48 from a 70 year old lady who was left with her husband's junk computers.
She closed shop for good in October of 2014, I will never forget just how awesome that place was.
Would've bought it all if I could, there were plenty of things I really need nowadays that would cost me $0.18 at that shop but go for $50 online.
Mine was a tray model as well, had the lowest specs possible for the time as well (aside from the hard disk, 20GB, Christ!). Mac OS 8.5 unfortunately.
>>55604448
>"Slim" cases are still a thing.
Sure, but can you reasonably stuff a 6700k, GTX 1080, multiple drives, and an ATX PSU into them? All that I've seen are really only suitable for builds using an SFX PSU, a dual-core CPU, and a GTX 960 at best.
>>55604509
>I don't think classic Mac OS deteriorates over time like Windows did from personal experience.
It doesn't deteriorate at all. Classic Mac OS installs run identically over the course of several years, even if you add/remove stuff
>>55604483
As I said though, buggy. Only OS I could install with multiple CPUs was Windows 2000 Advanced Server.
>>55604509
Mac OS 9 and earlier tend not to, but OS X and onwards do.
>>55604544
How so, exactly? Sounds weird, I've never noticed any peculiarities on any of my old SMP shitboxes running vanilla NT/2K. Maybe I'm just not understanding your meaning.
>>55604621
The MTi M668 has a weird architecture - I genuinely don't know what's wrong with it, but when I've got both CPU slots populated, the only operating system that will successfully install is Windows 2000 Advanced Server.
>>55584347
I own a ZX6000. It's a pretty interesting space heater however VMS isn't my thing, likely going to install Windows for Itanium just to see what I can get running on there (Tried Linux, it rebooted).
Plus, I already have 2 PA-RISC boxes for HP-UX or Linux usage.
>>55585434
Blade 100/150s are dirt cheap along with the Ultra 5/10. I just got a SPARCStation 20 and am planning on putting NeXTSTEP on it once I clear out my basement some.
>>55601513
The HP 16505A is a cheaper (used) rebranded version of the 712 and is also the cheapest PA-RISC workstation I see on ebay, some of the C3x00s are cheap too.
>>55603879
It's not useless, my Fujitsu U810 runs Linux okay and can do network checking/ssh configuring pretty damn well.
>tfw my TiBook doesnt play nice with my cheap wireless b router
>>55604852
My TiBook had issues with Wi-Fi from anything other than plain unsecured Wi-Fi routers. I know someone used an Alfa USB Wi-Fi dongle successfully though but for me I usually use ethernet.
[spoiler]I miss that laptop[/spoiler]
>>55604880
Yeah, its a nice laptop. Better keyboard then my T420 too. I rarely use it, but i surely dont regret buying it.
>>55604392
https://www.zotac.com/us/product/mini_pcs/all
>>55604811
Where'd you get a hold of a ZX6K?
As much as I would like one, I feel like I'd have a better time spending the same money on a nice piece of SGI or Sun gear since there's more easily attainable commercial desktop software out there for them. Wish there was a way I could get a hold of some old Catia versions though, there's just something exciting about the idea of using old six-figure setups for "productive" work.
>The HP 16505A is a cheaper (used) rebranded version of the 712
Holy shit, those really are cheap, do they have any additional functions over the standard 712 or is it all in the software preload and the nameplate?
>>55604537
>GTX 1080
Do I just not know the definition of "workstation-class"? Of course you're not going to fit a gaming rig in there.
>>55605059
Workstation class usually refers to mid-to-high end Xeons and often powerful GPUs (though the 1080 isn't a workstation GPU, it'd handle many non-game workloads quite nicely). Generally it means high power components.
I think it's possible to make a slim desktop workstation. All you really need to do is make it a tad taller so you can fit in an ATX PSU and widen it to accommodate a full length graphics card with a riser. Cooling would be done with low-profile fans or liquid.
The result would look something like a unusually tall settop box.
>>55605159
No, Workstation grade GPU's mean high quality components not high power. Also they have error correction, double-precision calculations, more memory.
>>55605624
They wanted 7 grand for that in the day, how?
>>55605001
It's great for OS 9 games, stuff like Deus Ex or Unreal ran great on my 1ghz model, along with older games like Marathon 2. It'll also run Linux and MorphOS.
>>55605056
Recycling center, especially if there's at least one ISV in your town that donates/unloads old gear to them. That's how I've gotten some interesting Sun and HP 9000 gear, along with some other interesting Mac models (The 7200/120 PC for example). I've also gotten a Newton 120 from there and might be getting an RS/6000 from there soon too.
The only difference between the 16505A and 712 is the software preload, the 16505A was designed for a specific piece of lab equipment and came with special software.
>>55605686
>how?
Well it WAS some limited/anniversary edition after alll...
>>55605715
Too bad it was a 6500 for $7 grand and not a higher end model.
>>55605693
Shit, there's a charity near me that takes in most of the big corporate donations, I've been there before and scored a big-box quad socket RS/6000 for $33, but I tend not to go there because it's kind of a long drive and I kind of feel like I'm wasting their time.
While I have money though, I feel a little more motivated to go back now... Tons of semiconductor/tech sector stuff around here, Micron and HP most significantly.
This, but modded with modern hardware. It can be done, but takes work.
>>55606046
Sure does.
x86 kind of takes the excitement of it in a way though, wish there were better alternate architecture solutions that didn't cost an arm and a leg.
>>55606046
>but modded with modern hardware
disgusting
>>55606046
I'd love to see someone put a micro ATX board in an iMac G3, maybe even with room for a low profile GPU?
Or has this been done already?
>>55606144
Eh, it's not like he's some dirty hipster who wants to hack up a nice high-end G5 or something. They made millions of those things, and a well-done mod isn't totally terrible.
Plus, you can find busted up iMac G4s pretty easy, would have to gut a working system to repair them anyway.
>>55606157
Everyone's tried to fit something in everything at this point, for better or worse.
G3s are a little cramped but you could probably fit a low-end setup in there, wouldn't expect miracles though, and it would be very involved to do it right.
A PDA would be nice, it would be a nice addition to my OCD, though I don't do much so I would probably use it to play games.
>>55606198
My only questions are on the monitor and power pinouts. I've seen both in person, the video seems to be the usual classic mac video, but the power cable is odd.
>>55606157
An eMac would work way better for that purpose. Its CRT was flat, so a 17" LCD would replace it cleanly without gaps between the case and the screen, and it has plenty of room for larger hardware.
>>55606228
If you want to play around with it before buying any actual hardware:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.perpendox.phem
>>55606242
video's DVI
>>55606228
I have a shitton of PDAs, from Windows CE to Palm OS to Amstrad PenPad to Apple Newton, you name it and I've probably got it somewhere.
A few tips for you, should you ever get a Palm based PDA:
1. Palm Desktop won't work under Windows 8/8.1/10.
2. If you get the Handspring Visor as pictured, you're going to have to have a serial port of some kind.
3. The two best games you can get are called "IR-Pong 2" and "Secret of the Orb: Gold Edition," the former should be self explanatory, and the latter is one of the few, and admittedly probably the best of the Palm OS RPGs. I've got the files on Mediafire (including the key to let you play the whole game) should you want them. The key code is a bit difficult to find, but the game itself really isn't.
>>55606228
Back when I was in high school I used to love hacking those things up with shell replacements and stuff. Nothing says "awesome" like XP in 1-bit color.
Palms are surprisingly productive still, there were a lot of strengths to stylus-driven interfaces that touch screens can't really match.
>>55606242
Mac DB-15 is pretty much standard VGA from my understanding, you'd have to fuck around with the power though.
Honestly, if I was doing a mod as involved as that, I would replace the tube altogether.
>>55606291
>analog display
>digital interface
No way, DVI didn't make it to the iMac until the G4.
>>55606315
>No way, DVI didn't make it to the iMac until the G4.
I thought he was talking about the G4
>>55606309
>I've got the files on Mediafire (including the key to let you play the whole game) should you want them.
Could you, or at least post the key? I have a thing for software hoarding.
>>55606265
Only I'm not looking for an LCD, I like the iMac G3 specifically because of it's translucent plastics and the nice CRT it's got.
>>55606291
DVI didn't exist when the iMac G3 was sold, I don't think.
>>55606315
I've got an adapter to change the Mac to VGA, but not the other way around (what I'd actually need). Does anything like this exist?
>>55606336
Nope, G3, see image.
>>55606341
Sure, gimme a second.
>>55606347
If you're keeping the crt in a g3, I think it'll be quite difficult to fit anything more than a mini-itx board with no gpu.
I'm thinking about putting a raspberry pi in mine due to the simpler power requirements - or just using it as an external monitor.
>>55606341
For Palm OS 2: http://www.mediafire.com/download/44nw7isrsiz3bxl/SOTO_OS2.zip
For Palm OS 3 and later: http://www.mediafire.com/download/3q759w98h682d74/SOTO_OS3_.zip
You have to install all files onto the device, regkey.pdb is the key to let you play the rest of the game past the Kobold Lair.
Me and a couple friends intended to write a guide for this game, but we never really got too far into it before stopping.
Pic related, screenshot of the game at Elderwood Forest, the first town in the game (picture of Palm Pilot Professional, actually).
>>55606431
I have no use for Linux based systems - everything I do requires Windows (though some support Linux, not all do, mainly games and a few programs)
>>55584115
I actually own one of these, beleive it or not, it stays fairly cool
granted, it idles at almost 50c but it never goes past 60, my t42 goes upwards of 75c sometimes under full load
the heatsink is almost passive on idle, fan is always off, and it takes alot for it to turn on
>>55606481
not a bad little machine by any means, need to replace the screen as it has some dark spots, but desu i paid 60$ for it and a new screen is 60 more, not really a big issue
i know another anon on here has one and maxed it out with 2gb of ram, a 3.4ghz extreme edition p4 and a 120gb ssd or something
>>55580967
a tiny linux computer that can fit in my pocket
not one of those ones you plug in though
>>55606347
>Only I'm not looking for an LCD, I like the iMac G3 specifically because of it's translucent plastics and the nice CRT it's got.
I owned one of the summer 2000 iMac DVs. Its display was decent, but not anything amazing. My friend's 17" Dell monitor with a trinitron tube was easily better.
>>55606481
>>55606498
Inspiro 5160 is pretty good as well, stays relatively cool (considering Pentium 4HT 2.8GHz and dedicated GPU), has okay battery life (4 hours on idle, about a week in standby, a few months shelf life, and 22 minutes for playing games or watching YouTube).
Most come with the XGI Volari XP5 video card, but those are complete trash, even when compared to the Intel 815M chipset. However, you can upgrade all the way to an nVidia GeForce FX5200, which isn't half bad for a laptop from the early 2000s.
Pic related, on the left is the Dell Inspiron 5160 with it's huge ass 1400x1050 SXGA+ display, and on the right is an IBM ThinkPad X60 with a 1024x768 display for comparison.
>>55606550
I think you misunderstand, I just want the original CRT, mainly for the purpose of having the original power supply and not having to fit my own stuff into it.
>>55606626
I'd also like to point out the brand name on the Inspiron's charger - "Mayday tech"
What a great choice of brand name, am I right?
>>55606431
>I'm thinking about putting a raspberry pi in mine due to the simpler power requirements
Eugh, I wouldn't. Probably wouldn't even be faster depending on what revision of either system you've got, those early Pis especially can't even outrun some pieces of 1995-era hardware on their own without their hardware co-processors.
>>55606046
A good example of how these old iMacs used to be.
>>55606658
The newer ones can't either, its the same broadcom arch rehashed with slightly higher clocks and more IO on the same USB bus.
>>55606729
My biggest pet peeve with that shit is how behind they always were on RAM standards, what they were doing shipping even their high-end systems with PC133 in 2002 is beyond me. They may have been respectable at the time, but they aged way worse than they should have because of little things like that.
>>55606889
The same can be said for the Dell Dimension 2xx0 series.
However, the iBook G4 and PowerMac G5 I know for a fact shipped with DDR only.
I suppose you're right, though, Apple really had issues with memory and more specifically architecture support back in the bad old days of PowerPC Macs.
People these days will never know the immense pain of owning an iMac G3 or any other PowerPC Mac, or even a 68k based system.
Honestly, I'd still like to get an old system like that nowadays, simply because of how it looks, and just how ridiculous they are by today's standards.
You can't turn the clock back, but you can pretend.
>>55606281
This is really neat, any idea where to get the Palm OS roms though?
>>55598271
I use mine every day!
>>55607010
>PowerMac G5 I know for a fact shipped with DDR only.
Last revision uses ECC DDR2.
>>55607034
You should try Google, you're supposed to dump them yourself, but that's slow and in some cases dangerous.
>>55607059
Mine was from a recycle yard for $27, and it has the dual G5 2GHz with the GeForce FX5200 AGP Pro, uses DDR PC2700.
>>55607086
I know. I said the last revision uses DDR2, not that all of them do.
>>55580967
A Smart Phone, I honestly don't have a good use for one but I still use a flip phone and am such a loser I can't play the pokemon or anything and make friends. Buts I'm too poor to afford the shitty priced data plans.
>>55607156
If you're in the US, search for Ting or US Mobile. There's no need to pay for a data plan.
>>55607140
Sorry, I meant that the one I have uses DDR and that's the only one I've ever seen.
>>55606882
Hmm, don't the new ones at least implement an improved core?
I love this benchmark for shitting on the first generation models at least, obviously not something to take as gospel for every possible use case, but it still is a really good lesson on the irrelevance of clock speed and the importance of the compiler:
http://users.sdsc.edu/~glockwood/comp/benchmarks.php#arm
Almost want to contact the guy and get the source for it, I'm interested if the Pi 2 and Pi 3 can at least take on a graphite Power Mac G4 now.
>>55607010
>People these days will never know the immense pain of owning an iMac G3 or any other PowerPC Mac, or even a 68k based system.
Sometimes I wish I did, I just expect them to be slow in the first place so I don't find it surprising when they are, plus I'm pretty patient to begin with. Don't know about their 68k gear though, I find it genuinely nicer and quicker to use than PCs and even some workstation platforms of the same vintage for certain tasks, but it still has some downsides like anything else.
>Honestly, I'd still like to get an old system like that nowadays, simply because of how it looks, and just how ridiculous they are by today's standards.
Breathing life into that old stuff again can be a pretty fun learning experience, never would have gotten into the areas of computing I'm interested in now without it.
>>55607086
Well I tried searching for it with no luck. Surprisingly hard to find these roms
>>55606626
You're not the only one with a Windows XP laptop for gaming. Please excuse the poor quality, I used my shitty webcam.
>Dell Latitude D620 that I got exactly a year ago, on July 16, 2015.
>Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 SP3.
>Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 @ 2.00 GHz.
>2GB PC2-5300 DDR2.
>Intel GMA 950 64MB.
>120GB Seagate Momentus 5400.3 ST9120822AS SATA HDD.
>Missing 4 key.
>No RAM door at bottom. Had to use duct tape to cover the ram.
>Windows Embedded theme. Goes along with the wallpaper nicely.
>Registry hack that enables updates until 2019.
>>55607271
Why not use POSReady 2009 instead of adding its updates to Windows XP and pretending that's good enough?
>>55607280
Why think you're the first person to tell someone on /g/ that XP doesn't recieve updates anymore?
>>55607298
Why reply if you're too retarded to read what I typed?
>>55607280
It's a stripped down version of XP. I know that because I tested POSReady out on a VM.
>>55607271
I'm actually looking into a Latitude D830 to replace my other laptop. Thinking about upgrades for it too.
Any idea if the WWAN slot in these things will take an SSD?
>>55607245
http://artnetweb.com/gh/palm_emulator/roms%20Folder/Popular%20ROM%20Downloads/
Has Palm IIIc ROMs.
>>55607239
I've been using PCs all my life - thought it was due time for change, since for DOS / Windows it's always the same to me.
68k Macs are actually pretty neat, in particular the ones I have are the Macintosh LCII, Centris 610, and PowerBook 180. It seems, though, that the LCII has died (blank white screen after power on) and the Centris 610 won't take input.
I do have more PPC Macs, though, and I like them better to be honest. They look nicer, but they tend to be much slower, noticeably so even.
>>55607280
Because these computers aren't point of sale units? I don't know, after SP3 was released I turned all updates off completely.
>>55607309
Why tell someone whose computer wouldn't run a later version of Windows well that XP is no longer updated?
>>55607309
Oh, yes. You get used to going into auto-shitflinging mode after spending the last two years watching people crawl all over each other to regurgitate the same FUD over and over again about XP being swiss cheese like it's some new and exciting revelation that nobody knew for the last sixteen years but them.
But for real though, not him, but I personally find it kind of autism-triggering and don't really care much if a few updates for POSReady-specific components don't catch, most of us still using XP aren't using it for anything super important, and the biggest vector of exploits is through the browser (which is current on XP) and user error anyway.
>>55607387
Brilliant, thanks man
>>55607361
>>55607361
>It's a stripped down version of XP
No shit, that's exactly my point. So XP's got components that won't receive updates, introducing potential vulnerabilities, which is why you should just run POSReady 2009.
>>55607387
>Because these computers aren't point of sale units?
Irrelevant. It's still Windows XP, except this version receives updates.
>Why tell someone whose computer wouldn't run a later version of Windows well that XP is no longer updated?
I never told anyone that. You should try reading what you reply to as well.
>>55607387
I don't know, but I doubt the WWAN slot will take an SSD.
>>55607427
No problem. Hopefully all works out for you!
>>55607432
POSReady is a /stripped down/ version of Windows XP, but as you said, it receives updates.
However, to me, this is irrelevant, as like I said, I've had updates completely turned off since SP3 was released.
>>55607436
It's miniPCIe, so I don't really know. Guess I'll find out eventually!
>>55607479
>POSReady is a /stripped down/ version of Windows XP
No fucking shit, why are you saying this yet again?
>>55607500
I'm not the same guy, no need to get mad.
>>55607523
I don't care if you're the same guy or not, it was already established in both a previous post and the post you replied to.
You're not the same guy.
>>55607545
And besides, it already had XP installed when I got it.
>>55607500
Because it means there are features missing, some of which I use.
Keep in mind security is /completely worthless to me/ as I keep no important data on any networked computer. My updates for /all/ of my computers have been off since SP3 was released...
>Like I said earlier
I can't understand why you keep trying to convince me to use this, people have tried to get me to move to Linux, but since it doesn't support all of my stuff, I can't use it. Likewise, the same goes for POSReady 2009.
Because of the missing features, I /cannot/ use it, and thus since 8/8.1/10 won't run all my stuff either, and 7 doesn't do well, my only other option is 2000, which is "insecure" and "unstable" by today's shit standards.
>>55607545
The point may have been made, but it was not gotten across apparently.
>>55607577
This is true with most computers of the time period, though I tend to install XP on everything I can because of the aforementioned incompatibilities.
>>55607190
Well I guess that's true but then I have enough trouble right now making money. :(
>>55607387
My "daily driver" boxes is a Quadra 700 and I'm pretty impressed with it, the '040 hauls some serious ass for being 25 years old. I've got a 610 and a 180 as well, but they're both dead, the 610 has a chime of death on startup and the 180 has severe screen moisture issues.
>They look nicer, but they tend to be much slower, noticeably so even.
Pretty much. I mean, they're bearable for my own use case, but the architectural compromises tend to show with things like web browsing.
>>55607432
>So XP's got components that won't receive updates
But which ones? Most of the components you would use are common to both versions, and the majority of applications you'll use on XP are up-to-date applications that still support the platform.
Most of the high-profile exploits that matter which I can think of post-EOL like that font driver clusterfuck were the same on both systems and thus addressable using this hack.
>>55607602
>>55607602
It originally ran vista (judging by the keyboard and sticker), but the previous owner installed a pirated copy of XP on it (presumably a fresh install, since it had no programs on it) with only the Wi-Fi card driver installed. I knew it was a pirated copy because Malwarebytes detected wpakill.dll. But despite that, WPA still didn't bitch at me to this day.
>>55607619
I'm pretty sure a POS operating system doesn't come with administrative tools.
Honestly, I /couldn't possibly give less of a shit/ when it comes to security. I hope to god that this person realizes I'm posting all this via Windows 2000, and I still own and regularly use 98SE for some things.
The "form over factor" has been present for decades, especially with Apple, though in recent years PCs have reached a point of diminishing returns in terms of design.
The only reason I'd buy any Mac I wanted (The iMac G3 tray), I'd buy it for the looks, Maybe an SE or SE/30 even. Gotta love compact macs!
>>55607673
WPAkill? Sounds like something I could use, I constantly have to call Microsoft to activate stuff.
>>55607724
>I'm pretty sure a POS operating system doesn't come with administrative tools.
I think it does, though I've never used it to be sure. It seems to be just XP stripped down and missing a lot of multimedia features and the like, as well as some additional utilities relevant to a retail environment.
>The "form over factor" has been present for decades, especially with Apple
Yeah, kind of, but I wouldn't really apply that to PPC pre-iMac as much. Most the compromises I'm thinking of are the aforementioned memory standard support, cache gimping, and other stuff that I'd blame on cost cutting far more than aesthetics, Apple Desktop systems may not have had the full seven expansion bus slots of the typical PC but they weren't necessarily (substantially) compromised in the name of their aesthetics until relatively recently.
>>55607859
>It seems to be just XP stripped down and missing a lot of multimedia features.
And also, a RAMDisk. Which to me, there's no point to it since my laptop only has 2GB of ram.
So I have a tray-loading iMac G3 with a busted CD drive (I mentioned it in an earlier post here):
Is there a way for me to install OS X on it without using the CD drive or USB or Firewire? (Tray loaders have firmware that doesn't boot from usb, and they don't have firewire at all)
For example, I could hook up my spare IDE hard disk to a different computer, and somehow clone an image onto the disk, but I don't know where to find such an image - just the install CDs. I don't have any other PPC mac to use as some kind of surrogate, either. I just have a macbook air and an assortment of ordinary windows and linux machines.
>>55608148
You might be able to pull out the drive out and rig in a laptop PATA drive to it, or just order a replacement off of Ebay entirely.
>>55608573
Do you mean to replace the CD drive with a hard drive? That seems unlikely to work, but I suppose I could try it. (Unlikely since this thing won't even work with non-Apple CD drives, much less a completely different device)
A replacement CD drive is hard to find, and costs $100+ which is way more than I want to spend on refurbishing this thing.
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>>55608709
No, just order another tray drive off of Ebay.
>A replacement CD drive is hard to find, and costs $100+ which is way more than I want to spend on refurbishing this thing.
In that case, take a look at the tray drive and see if you can't just rig in a regular laptop slimline drive in.
>>55606130
>cringe
