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Which one should I use as a main desktop?
Yes.
Gentoo or riot
Gentoo, you fucking idiot.
Install exherbo.
>Linux
>Desktop
Have fun not being able to do anything
>>55493170
Gentoo is a meme just like miatas.
Arch if you want to play with that shit and have too much time, debian if you want something that's good and will get the job done.
Alternatively fedora if you want arch update frequency.
Come at me boys.
Ubuntu like most people with a job
>>55493627
>Debian
>Get the job done
Good one.
>>55493627
Arch doesn't allow you to play with shit nearly as much as Gentoo. All arguments for Arch apply doubly to Gentoo.
Debian is good.
>>55493170
>Arch vs Gentoo
Special olympics?
its a lot harder to break the package manager on arch
>>55493677
I should note that Arch very often breaks when you "play with it", because the packages are pre-compiled so they make assumptions about what is present and isn't on your system, while Gentoo doesn't make assumptions unless you tell it what assumptions to make, so it doesn't break as often.
Arch even breaks when you don't play with it sometimes, but with Gentoo it's actually tested before being put out in the wild.
>>55493694
Portage has never broken for me in the three years I've used Gentoo
Gentoo allows you to remove a package without removing its dependencies to fix issues while pacman would require you to uninstall everything that depends on that package too, meaning extra download time.
Since Gentoo is source-based it allows you to build packages without support for things if you don't need support for those things. Arch is primarily binary so you just get whatever they give you.
>>55493170
Fedora, install one of the other two onto a laptop.
>>55493775
Oh, and I guess I should tell you this works in reverse as well. Arch packages may not be built with certain flags, but you can make portage build them with whatever obscure flags you want. One thing I always do (however unnecessary) is rebuild sudo with insults like OpenBSD does by default.
>>55493791
I have to disagree.
Arch should never be used because it's shit.
Fedora should be used over Gentoo on a shitty laptop because of the compiling part. If the laptop is good use whatever but Gentoo is good on desktops.
(desu I prefer Debian to Fedora but to each his own)
>>55493734
you've never forgot to update after a few months and then tried to install a package?
At this point it's either ubuntu or gentoo.
My picture OP.
Fuck everyone else and their gentoo / arch shit.
If you for whatever reason is mentally handicapped and really want something else install fedora.
Fucking bunch of ricer neets with their arch / gentoo memes.
>>55493858
You just don't know how to maintain a source based distro because you're retarded. Portage is the best package manager and I can use Pacman on Gentoo if I wanted. Can you use Portage on Arch? No.
>>55493905
so you're not denying that doing this one simple mistake that anyone can make completely mangles the system beyond repair? thought so.
>>55493883
I use Gentoo at work and school. Fucking sick of that meme.
>>55493858
That happens to Arch too, but for a different reason than Gentoo. Generally that issue doesn't happen in the stable tree though. All I can say is that this is a problem with all rolling release distros, and if you can't keep a rolling release distro updated there is no reason to use a rolling release distro.
>>55493871
Not Ubuntu. I don't like the Amazon botnet. Debian is swell though.
If you said Debian or Gentoo I'd agree.
Slackware is nice too.
>>55493883
Ricer neets is Arch. Gentoo is the distro that was professional enough for Google to make ChromeOS out of it.
>>55493939
For one that's not breaking Portage. That's not breaking anything. That's just choosing your own dependencies.
Two, if you want to learn more about software then you have to learn how to maintain your own dependencies. It's about freedom of choice.
Three, it's geared towards devs and network professionals, not retards.
>>55493996
well if my professional dev friend who has used gentoo for years says he can't fix it i'd count it as broken. get off your high horse god damn self proclaimed genious
>>55493939
You have problems in all rolling-release distributions if you don't update them for a while, although I'll admit that it's a different one.
>beyond repair
If you think it's impossible to repair an old version of GCC that can't compile itself you're retarded.
>Download binary copy of recent version of GCC
>Compile recent copy of GCC with binary copy of GCC
>Update system
It isn't that hard.
>>55494039
Your professional dev friend isnt as professional as you think. See >>55494043
>>55494043
i think the issue was with everything being masked.
>>55493170
Funtoo
>>55493846
I agree with everything you said except for Arch being shit. I just think Gentoo is better for a machine with a small amount of packages just to make your life easier.
>>55494063
Ah. That really is a problem with portage, but you can easily unmask if you understand the config files.
>>55494067
Arch just doesn't have any advantages.
>>55494063
Then you just unmask. Gentoo's masking policy is awesome.
>>55494078
which you should if you use Gentoo/Funtoo
>>55494064
There is no real reason to use Funtoo nowadays. Please give an advantage over Gentoo.
Gentoo prevails where other distributions fall short.
>>55494131
I should make this sound less confrontational:
I used to use Funtoo because of the Git-based portage tree, but now Gentoo has one.
Having zippier emerge --sync was worth having a tree that was delayed by about a day, but now I dont see a reason for it.
>>55493170
>Main desktop
Arch
>Toy VM
Gentoo
Prove me wrong.
Hint: you literally can't
>>55494173
I've honestly never met a professional that uses Arch Linux.
>>55494173
The entire thread so far has proven you wrong.
>>55494104
I liked it, I think it's a decent distro for what it is. I really liked the AUR.
>inb4 you try to start an argument
I am not going to reply.
>>55494204
Do I count? I make 55k per annum
>>55493883
Debian and its derivatives are also the most popular among distributions, so it pretty much has the best compatibility and support compared to everything else.
>>55494173
I would say "no, it's the exact opposite", but I just realised there's not even a reason to use Arch as a toy in a VM.
>>55494164
>>55494131
I don't think it matters much anymore.
I installed Funtoo before Gentoo on my desktop.
My laptop runs Gentoo works fine same as my desktop :)
>>55493170
Gentoo uf you have a fast computer and patience to compile everything, otherwise arch.
But remember that arch has systemd.
>>55494227
But what do you do?
>>55494239
Really? Last time I checked it takes 15 minutes to compile X
>>55494263
I work in an accounting farm, my job is not related to CS though.
>>55494217
Ok I won't start an argument. I'll just tell you that the AUR is a collection of unmaintained, old scripts that download packages from git when you could easily do that yourself.
The only AUR "packages" that are maintained are the ones for meme WMs.
The way most distros work is that they have one big repository (or set of connected repositories) that contains 99% of the packages on Earth. The way Arch works is that it has one small repository that contains 30% of the packages you want plus one community-run folder with some files that have URLs for old versions of programs /gee/ wants to use that contains 35% of the packages on Earth.
>>55494324
Are you the guy from the other Linux distro thread who said that gentoo was good who said "ect"? I like gentoo but I don't want you making us look bad. It's "etc", "&c", or "et cetera". Not "ect".
>>55494324
They would prefer CentOS over Gentoo, actually. They know full well how crucial time is, customers won't wait for their packages to recompile.
There is no reason to run a source based distro outside a VM. I've been there, done that
>>55494359
Ive been there done that isnt a reason why yet.
>>55494216
No one has ever been able to prove me wrong :)
For MOST practical use cases Arch is just better
>>55494358
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Common mistake you ploughin' petty faggot.
>>55494359
There definitely is. Compatibility, performance and freedom of choice.
>>55493170
>Which one should I use as a main desktop?
Neither, because you're obviously an idiot. You'll gain nothing from using either if you can't be bothered to research them yourself. Please resist the urge to inflame the fatty neckbeards. Encouraging them to rationalize their fantasy worlds is a dangerous thing.
>>55494424 >>55494359
Although the first bit is true.
>>55493170
depends. gentoo allows you to integrate tons of 3rd party stuff into your system and have it managed as regular packages - rebuilds when linkage breaks, updating, etc.
arch is nice is you don't rely on AUR or external repositories a lot.
>>55494424
As I said
>They know full well how crucial time is, customers won't wait for their packages to recompile.
>Performance
3-4% boost is negligible
>>55494441
>Implying this wasn't a bait thread
>>55493170
OSX
>>55494458
That's not a reason to not use it on a server or desktop. That's a reason not to use it for--
What is that a reason for? Why would customers have to wait for something to compile unless this company sells (?) the distribution (?) ?
>>55494334
You do have a point.
>>55494280
He meant people who use it in computery jobs.
Also if you have to sit there staring at your package manager while it installs everything you're autistic.
>>55494490
Rephrase
>>55494525
Why would customers have to wait for things to recompile? What sort of setting are you thinking about?
>>55493170
both require some pretty anal work but at least if you go with gentoo you'll have something to be proud of.
being an archfag is the lowest of the low, and pretty much everyone agrees on that.
>>55494359
I'm not implying that everyone has to use Gentoo. Gentoo has RPM anyway. If it's an enterprise then it makes more sense to run an enterprise machine. I'm tell you why a lot of us prefer Gentoo. People act like 90% of the experience is updating and compiling software and it's not.
>>55494490
what are you going to compile on a server that takes that long?
>>55494537
I remember I was speaking to a sys admin few years back. They fucked up some docker images in their server. By the time they figured out it was already too late. They had to re-compile a number of images and took them ~45minutes. Clients were not really happy with the downage of their data server
>>55493775
Wrong:
-d, --nodeps skip dependency version checks (-dd to skip all checks)
>>55493813
Double wrong:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Build_System
>>55494586
That's what im asking in the post you quoted.
>>55494581
No I was talking about how many Sys admins use Gentoo on their servers
>>55494630
I fail to see how I was wrong once. If you're using binary packages you're stuck with what they give you, and if you're willing to compile things then why not move to Gentoo? Also, where was the double?
>>55494599
Once you have docker, you make images the exact same way as on other distros. This is not a gentoo problem.
So here's a challange for Gentoo fags.
Install Inox browser. It's chromium with google transmission module removed
It also has a patched gtk2 file picker.
Compile and prove how good you are at compiling packages :^)
>>55493170
>no foobar
>no adobe suit
>no ms office
>no games
it's like you like to suffer
>>55494702
Yeah, and those images were Gentoo
>>55494724
You forgot to add
>No ads
>>55494721
>a project nobody uses nor needs
>admits nobody uses nor needs it because he picked it just because it is obscure
I'll bite though. Wait until I get home from work.
>>55494749
Who doesn't need a chromium based browser with a proper file picker without the botnet?
>>55494731
>they never heard of distcc and backups.
>>55494769
They needed a working system, not backed up obsolete data, system environment
>>55494721
>https://gpo.zugaina.org/www-client/inox
this shitty browser of yours is in an overlay.
gentoofags don't have to do anythiing.
>>55494731
Ah. Well there are places for Gentoo and there are places for other distros.
You don't want to use Ubuntu with unity and Amazon botnet included on a computer from the 1980s. That doesn't mean it's necessarily a shitty distro. There are other reasons for that.
You don't want to use a BSD on a desktop if you need flash. That doesn't mean BSDs are necessarily shitty.
I wasn't trying to say Gentoo is the best absolutely everywhere if that's what you thought. Sorry about that. I'd just like to say that Arch is the best absolutely nowhere.
>>55494786
Been using it for years and works on my machine. I'm not the only one. If it didn't then we wouldn't use it. Some of you people are just bias against Gentoo.
>>55494791
Oh I thought some one said git>everything. True gentoofags never use anything but git :^)
Go ahead and compile from the git
>>55494791
kek
>>55494843
are you implying that it's hard to compile a program? are you mentally challenged?
and i bet it's not even in autotools.
>>55494797
Tell me. Why exactly you'd use Gentoo
>>55494812
Just like some people have bias against Arch
>>55494871
1. Compile
2. Post screenshot
Humor me
Peace... Fucking bottom of the barrel discussions and GPU threads and ugh... Screw you guys, I'm going home.
>>55494843
You're retarded. If something is in an overlay you don't need to download it directly from git. It's all coming from the same place, anyway. The ebuild sources git. If you don't know how portage and Gentoo work, you can never get licensed to be an anti-gentoo shitposter.
>>55494892
Post screenshot of the program running? Okay. Sure.
>>55494721
https://github.com/gcarq/inox-patchset
drop the patches from there into /etc/portage/patches and build chromium as normal
ayyyyy
>>55494892
Well, using Gentoo has advantages. Arch really doesn't.
>>55494906
>If something is in an overlay you don't need to download it directly from git.
if something is in an AUR package* you don't need to download it directly from git.
FTFY
>>55494922
>>55494923
>Still no screenshots
>Deflections
Every single time. I guess I'm getting to old for you kids
>>55494938
Actually Gentoo has no real advantages over Arch. Gentoo is justa timesink
>>55494892
too much of a bother. keep being an archfag if you want to.
>>55493170
Windows 7
>>55494969
How to actually detect if someone a real Gentoo user:
1. Tell them to comile a big software from git
-Real gentoofags will immediately go and start compiling, will come back next day with half working system
-Casual faggots that fell for the meme will keep on deflecting
Universal rule across ALL tech boards
>>55494721
>So here's a challange for Gentoo fags.
I'll up the ante. Go > http://psychcentral.com/quizzes/autism.htm
Try and score less than a 34.
>>55494968
>Portage
I can use Pacman on Gentoo if I want
I can use RPM on Gentoo if I want
I can use a BSD kernel if I want
I can basically do anything other distos can with the flexibility and freedom that comes with using Gentoo.
>Oh no! I have to update once a week and it takes three whole minutes!
>>55495026
>Another deflection
Hahaha is /g/ dead?
>>55495045
Seems like ever sense moot left 4chins went even further down the drain. I didn't think it was possible.
>>55495040
I would use pacman, it's just faster. Python programs like portage are slow, it's a known fact
I can use both RPM and DEB in Arch
I can also use BSD kernel if I ever went full retard
Basically you are saying "oh you can use this this from other distro so gentoo is a better distro"
>>55494968
I am downloading it because you are so incessantly autistic. Unfortunately Chromium is so fucking big and my inet is so pajeet that it's going to take 34 minutes to download it.
>>55495099
Thank you, I almost lost hopes on the casuals ITT
>>55495087
You can use a BSD kernel, but you won't be using Arch, you'll be using a community-made fan thing. Gentoo officially has BSD support. Also, Pacman is a subpar package manager at best.
>>55495087
You can use both RPM and DEB in Arch, but you have to fundamentally change your system in funny ways.
RPM is literally in the gentoo official repositories, although I don't know why anybody would ever use it.
>>55495124
>You can use a BSD kernel
Oh so you know
> a community-made fan thing
Hate to break it to you but Arch, like Linux and Gentoo are all community projects
Also pacman is faster than portage and you know it
>>55495087
Pacman just resolves all of your dependencies for you. This is the Arch Linux users logic lol
>Compiling for that 4% increase
It's a hell of a lot faster and I don't have to deal with compatibility conflicts.
>Pacman is in C so it's faster than Portage
Yeah, doesn't really matter what language it's written in. Portage has more freedom. Ports and ABS are a hell of a lot better than Pacman. I can use Debian too. Gentoo is definitely more flexible. I don't see NASA or Google using Arch Linux.
>>55495003
>let's waste time to compile something useless.
desu chromium compiles in 45 mins avg on this machine.
>>55495156
Have fun with your Systemd software anarchy little boy
>>55495003
>Real gentoofags will immediately go and start compiling, will come back next day with half working system
see, this way of thought is why archfaggots are the lowest of the low.
>>55495170
Meanwhile people get the job done in those 45 minutes
>>55495150
I don't quite like your phrase "funny way"
>>55495193
Gentoo has systemd as well. There is nothing wrong with systemd itself
>>55495165
>Compatibility conflicts
I'm sorry it's not debian, take your ptsd somewhere else because no other distors would delete GNOME shell if you want to remove games
>>55495206
Shouldn't you be compiling, casual neo /g/ babby?
>>55495156
I was telling you that ArchBSD isn't officially supported. It's just a fan project made by hobbyists, so it can and does fuck up, and when it does you have nowhere to go for help except an IRC channel, which at any given time has less than 20 people in it who, if they ever reply to you at all, will very quickly say "yeah, that's a problem we've been meaning to fix. haha just dont try to install that one package there"
Meanwhile, Gentoo with BSD is something people are proud of.
>>55495209
Yeah, but not by default. Most of us don't use Systemd. Having everything a child of pid 1 is fucking retarded.
Install debian.
Gentoo and Arch fags are most likely the same AMD vs Nvidia boys that shit over the entire board.
>>55495209
Gentoo has OpenRC default and optional support for systemd.
Have fun with your Systemd software anarchy little boy.
I'm sorry you don't like it. Anything else you don't like, so I know what to avoid?
>>55495277
gtfo nvidiot xd
>>55495248
>>55495256
>>55495289
What? If you are going to use BSD/runit/sysvinit use it, what exactly is your complain
>Software anarchy
Are you a novelist ?
>>55493627
The miata isn't a meme, so gentoo it is.
>>55495256
>most of don't use systemd
That's delusional, most run Debian, Arch or some derivative of those.
You know Gentoo is far more flexible and better suited for whatever task the user has in store. Binary distros just don't have the same freedom. CRUX is closer to Gentoo but not exactly on par.
>>55495289
>software anarchy
You're always using this retarded term.
>>55495336
I meant most Gentoo users. I only met two people who use Systemd on Gentoo
>>55495336
Arch isn't as common as you think, but if you could have been bothered to read the post he was replying to, you would have realized he was saying most gentoo users.
>>55495350
If you couldn't tell I was copy pasting the other response to imply that your post was meaningless and that the previous one was relevant given the information I shared, you're retarded.
>>55495370
I've seen plenty polls and Arch is mostly the most popular distro here.
>>55495369
I do too, because it performs good and is easy to use.
>>55495418
Not in the world.
>>55495395
Wow there are damage controls
And there are BIG damage controls
Then there are BIGGER damage controls
Then there' your post
>>55495418
Arch and Ubuntu are most popular because of a valid reason
>>55495428
He's not wrong
>>55495395
>If you couldn't tell I was copy pasting the other response to imply that your post was meaningless and that the previous one was relevant given the information I shared, you're retarded.
>you're retarded
> you're
>you are
>you
(You)
>>55495428
Right
>>55495442
Arch isn't popular in the world
>>55495429
Wow, there are posts that don't say much
And then there are posts that say even LESS
And then there are posts that say NOTHING
Then there's your post
What am I even supposed to be damage controlling? I'm not even the same guy who said it the first time and it's very clear that I copy pasted it if you can read. It's not like I was trying to hide anything.
>>55495246
the very point of gentoo is having a system that compiles for you.
>neo
sonny, please.
>>55495474
I like your desktop, skiddie
If you like Arch that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that but Portage and Portage tool are amazing. Every distribution should have a Ports-like system. Arch has the ABS. Gentoo is more flexible though. SystemRescueCD, the best live medium is based on Gentoo. The only argument against Gentoo is compiling and when you write your own software you have to compile it anyway. I keep my system very light so my compile times are only a few minutes but whatever.
>>55494227
I make over double this USD and I use Ubuntu.
>>55495504
It wasn't about who earns more, read the post I replied to.
Furthermore I use "Ubuntu server" for my home server
>>55495499
Do you know what a skiddie is?
>>55495540
People wtih
>Edgy dark obscure WM
>Does nothing but scripting in whole life
>Usually has no jobs, wife or life
>Posts in desktop threads
>Calls DE users "babies"
>>55495574
sooooo no ok
>>55495574
>Does nothing but scripting in whole life
My God, you're an idiot
>>55495499
what exactly makes me a "skiddie"? or did you simply resort to the first childish insult that visited your feeble mind?
>>55495591
>>55495598
Too close to home, eh?
Am I the only one who uses 4chanx and has been here since the beginning and finds it amusing that the poster count only increases when pro-gentoo guys say stuff, and it stays the same when people shitpost about how they don't like gentoo?
>>55495610
>Dank black edgy WM
First sign of a skiddie
>>55495617
>i have no argument so im just going to start randomly flailing my arms about attacking people
>im going to assume various people are samefagging even when the post count is clearly increasing
>>55494204
At least 3 guys at my company use Arch
>People arguing about archneet and memetoo
*tips silently*
>>55495574
worker is the best file manager available on desktops at present date.
if you perceive everything with dark background as "edgy" you are an idiot and very possibly a newfag.
>>55495647
*poster count
>>55495629
>not wasting space with window decorations is dank and edgy
i have tired of your idiocy, child.
>>55495655
mom i posted it again
>>55495647
>>55495690
It's okay you don't have to try this hard
>>55495670
Strange way to spell dolphin
>>55495629
>if you don't use unity you're a skiddie
first sign of a retard
>>55495619
>4chanX
False positives, that shits broken. You've been rused.
Should I update to Xubuntu 16.04 yet? I'm on the previous LTS 14.04.
I just like that by default it has that late-90s minimal GUI feel (successor to gnome 2), combined with more contemporary embellishments like a dock, nice colours. Truly the MemePad of OSs?
>>55495747
No skiddie uses a DE though, trust me and my experience
>>55493988
>Gentoo is the distro that was professional enough for Google to make ChromeOS out of it.
>ChromeOS was built on a nicer version of LFS
That's not really a strong argument.
>>55495721
>he is right so i'm just going to pretend he's mad so maybe he'll run away
>>55495649
What is your company?
>>55495779
Uh, no. He's not right. Do you lack reading comprehension?
>>55495765
oh yes. i trust you and your experience. that's why all skiddies use kali and therefore use a DE
>>55495776
it was built on gentoo. gentoo isn't a "nicer version of LFS"
>>55494204
>I've honestly never met a professional that uses Arch Linux.
How would you know? Ask every person you've ever met?
>>55495764
>successor to gnome 2
What are you even talking about?
>>55495805
Does it even matter?
>>55495817
kek, only pajeets use kali. If you are a misunderstood white teenager you are most probably running dwm and haxing the planet
>>55495822
Because we talk about our jobs in tech, obviously.
>>55495757
>it is broken because i dont like the number it gave him
as i recall 4chanx pops the poster count that 4chan itself watches to the side of each post. therefore it can't be broken, because it would have to get its numbers from somewhere.
>>55495817
>skiddies use kali
Meanwhile in the real world, most skids actually use Gentoo or Arch.
>>55495832
Yeah, because if it's not tech related then it's irrelevant.
>>55495813
Yeah. You, as he said, started randomly attacking people about their desktops because you don't like Gentoo. He said that. You said "ur mad lolz".
>>55495843
My job doesn't involve using my personal laptop for work.
>>55495845
>it would have to get its numbers from somewhere
Random number generator. Go look it up.
>>55495865
That's what professional distros like Ubuntu, Redhat or CentOS excels. No Gentoo there
>>55495832
>>55495858
Kali is the official distro of skiddies.
>>55495882
i didnt realize you were baiting until right now. topkek
>>55495885
excels at
>>55495870
Take a shower, You are quite laughable when you get angry
>>55495890
Don't get me wrong, professional pentesters use kali/backtrack. NOT Gentoo
>>55495885
Yeah, on servers. I'm allowed to use Gentoo at work and school. Nobody cares.
>>55495919
>Nobody cares
Great argument. Go use Arch in your school, junior. Nobody even knows what the difference between Arch and Gentoo is in your class, so no hipster point there
>>55493691
Underrated post
>>55495885
What distro professionals use at home on their own systems is personal choice. What they use at work often enough is company policy unless it's bring your own device.
>>55495885
>>55495919
>>55495945
The reality of it is that even in the tech world there are people who are incompetent when it comes to tech. I'm not the only one who uses Gentoo. I'm a CS student. So nice shit post.
>>55495885
No Arch there, either. And Gentoo is very often used in servers.
Meanwhile, what the fuck is Ubuntu doing on this list?
>>55495910
>You prove his point by calling another person mad randomly.
Also, because you were asked earlier and answered incorrectly, and now you're going on assuming your definition was right, a skiddie is somebody who 1336 h5x9rs using t00l5. Kali is the distro that supplies all of those tools. Kali is the distro used by kids who want to learn how to be 1339 h3x-r5.
>>55495974
I don't see Gentoo on servers as often as I'd like
>>55495955
Yes and they know full well not to make people use Gentoo since the timesink isn't worth it
>>55495970
>CS student at school. kek
>>55495974
>Why Ubuntu is there in the list
LMAO what? Are you even employed?
>>55495982
It's certainly used more often than Arch.
>>55495997
Probably because Arch is not a server distro?
>>55495997
Yeah, I've never seen an Arch server lol except for home use.
>>55495974
>Meanwhile, what the fuck is Ubuntu doing on this list?
Ubuntu is widely used in professional context. on desktops and servers. You may hate Ubuntu but still should know it gets used a lot
>>55496010
Right. And it's never used for desktop in businesses. Ergo gentoo has a niche in professional environments and arch doesn't. Thank you for helping me clarify there.
>>55496025
Don't bully NEETs, they keep /g/ alive
>>55496035
Gentoo has NO use in enterprise desktops as well, you can stop trying hereby
>>55495828
XFCE is the true successor to Gnome 2, since 3, Unity, MATE, Cinnamon, etc wanted to evolve past 2.
>>55493691
Lel
>>55496061
Xfce is older than Gnome
>>55496054
I'm not the only one who uses Gentoo with Red Hat servers. I was JUST talking to someone in 2600 who does the same thing.
>>55496083
True but I think most of the adopters at this point will be Gnome 2 refugees.
Also, google images of XFCE 1 and Gnome 2. Then tell me which looks more similar to the latest releases.
>>55496054
Gentoo has some use in desktops, but it has a pretty good bit of use in servers. Now that I've hopefully split what I was saying earlier into bite-sized pieces, read the post you just replied to.
>>55496142
Pretty sure threre are more people that run Arch more. It's more popular here if that gives you an idea. Who wants a replaceable timesink?
>>55494255
systemd is alright, why do people complain?
>>55496195
Not hip enough. You gotta run sysvinit for special snowflake points
>>55495474
Stop shitposting here and go learn German, so you can listen Hitler's speech without shitty gopnik-sprachigen voiceover, Slav.
Thread verdict:
Arch++
Gentoo += 0.
At least Gentoofags tried hard in the beginning
>>55494334
80% of my explicitly install packages are from the official repos.
95% of all my packages are from the official repos.
>>55496176
Arch is used more here because it's been shilled here successfully and because almost nobody here uses Linux for anything except ricing.
>>55496335
If you can show somewhere where Arch won in this thread, I'd be happy to rectify the situation. I'm sorry in advance because you can't.
>>55496335
Only for hobbyists
Nice try Arch nemesis
/g/entooman ftw
>>55494843
If you don't use anything but git, why would you use Gentoo over Slackware?
>>55496404
>>55496419
>t. salty Gentoo NEET
Go compile your X
>>55496437
that guy doesn't understand what gentoo is. that's why he shitposts about it on here all day.
>>55496444
>Oh shit. He is exactly right. What am I going to do? I know! I'll say he's salty! Maybe he'll believe me!
t. autism
>>55496437
> Slackware
Garbage. Stali is way less bloated and has exactly the same git and coreutils pack.
>>55493614
Ayy bait
>>55496468
Can I get some fies with that lel
>>55496404
>Arch is not used
>Okay Arch is used
>Because muh ricing
>Gentooneets don't rice
lmao take a look at the mental gymnastics this autist shows
>>55496509
I said Arch is not used in business. If you were semi-literate you would have gotten that. Some gentoo neets rice, but again, I was saying that Gentoo had a niche in professional settings and Arch didn't.
If you want to know what the grownups are talking about you need to read the post(s) being replied to by the post you replied to. That's one of the things you learn pretty early on when you come on 4chan. I hope you stay though.
>>55496575
If you are talking about niche usage, Arch is also used by businesses. Niche does noet even count.
I can see you are quite mad though. What does it feel like when people call your distro useless?
>tfw using Arch + KDE + full latest systemd
Come at me faggots
>>55496637
>gentoo is for people who are too dumb for lfs
lfs has no real ability to manage packages in a sane way. it has no purpose except to help newfriends learn about linux when they install it.
arch has literally no business use. the only websites that exist that are hosted on arch are sites about arch. gentoo has business use, as the rest of the thread has shown. again, read.
naturally, i understand that you're baiting. nobody is this retarded for real. like literally not even archfriends.
You neckbeards neets are pure cringe with this arch vs gentoo.
>Not wearing debian panties while using debian, the best distro btw, as your OS.
>>55496714
this desu. this isn't autistic at all.
>>55496701
Gentoo has no business use, Redhat has.
And you are not denying the fact that
>gentoo is for people who are too dumb for lfs
>>55496734
I demonstrated that LFS has no real use.
Also, Redhat has business use, but that doesn't mean the only distro used in businesses is Redhat. Congrats on demonstrating that you don't know anything about business use of Linux.
>>55496780
LFS is way more relevant than Gentoo. Lurk more.
Gentoo is a dead meme. Just like Chromebooks
>>55496809
LFS is a little project you can play with so you can see the stuff inside of a Linux distro.
>>55496637
>Gentoo is for people that are too DUMB for LFS
does this make arch debian for people who are too autistic to use a graphical installer that works just as well as the meme cli?
>>55496831
Those people are more matured than dumb gentoo fags, I can assure
>>55496854
I made an LFS build a few years ago.
People who have it for daily use have to spend their entire lives maintaining it. With Gentoo, you just run a command or two to update it.
>>55496854
I definitely prefer Gentoo over LFS. Also Gentoo community is far more professional than the Arch community.
I don't even think Arch and Gentoo should be compared with one another. Arch is just another rolling release binary distro and Gentoo is basically whatever you want it to be.
>>55496890
>he couldn't keep up
>>55496938
>Gentoo community is far more professional
hahahaha
>>55497000
>look mom i posted it again
That's a collection of the worst and most autistic gentoo users. If someone were to do it for Arch it would be worse.
>he couldn't keep up
No. I just have a life so I don't just sit there at my computer downloading this, installing that, building this, reading this book full of commands to install various things, manually editing makefiles because upstream is fucked, etc.
You have autism.
eather. Install them, get them functional, and understand linux. Then install something practical.
>>55497000
that isnt the gentoo community. that is a set of autists who downloaded gentoo and think they're cool.
they look just like archfags to me, except that they're jacking off about compiling shit.
the people who wrote that shit didnt understand why to use gentoo, and i'm sure they didnt understand how.
i'm sick of this meme.
>>55497090
>>55497118
kek Gentooneets on suicide watch
>>55497617
nice argument.
>>55493170
FreeBSD
>>55493170
Gentoo is to Windows what Arch is to Gentoo.
Choose carefully.
>>55493170
You mean your daily driver?
>>55493883
Debian is supreme distro.
>>55499859
>the entire rest of the thread shows why this is wrong
if you're going to get here late you have to bring arguments
gentoo, slack, debian in no particular order
>>55499968
>>the entire rest of the thread shows why this is wrong
Rest of thread:
>>55500015
Good argument. I'll pretend you're not retarded.
So what do you think is better in Arch than in Gentoo?
>>55500049
Better? They're simply different. If you really need to be a special snowflake and do things your own way (ala Canonical) use Gentoo. If you'd prefer the standard Linux experience, use Arch.
You really didn't need that explained though, right?
>>55500122
No. I didn't need that explained. I needed the post where you explicitly said that Arch was better than Gentoo explained, because that is wrong.
Also
>arch
>standard linux experience
kek
>gentoo
>is like canonical
kek
I'm going to assume this is a shitpost (?)
How is Arch a standard linux experience? What would you consider to be the standard linux experience? And how is Gentoo, the exemplary source-based distro, "special snowflake"? Arch users are the ones who prance about telling the world about how cool and haxor they are for using it. That's special snowflake incarnate.
So Gentoo and portage will optimize my binaries for my computer with its o flags, right? But I just have a standard Intel based dual core i3. Computers are really similar now so why don't other distributions just compile shit with optimization for Intel and then distribute those binaries? What am I missing?
>>55500314
He's kind of right though.
>Also
>>arch
>>standard linux experience
What appears in Arch's wiki, applies to most all other distros.
>gentoo
>is like canonical
They do their own thing. Gentoo wants nothing to do with systemd and Ubuntu wants nothing to do with contributing to Linux.
> the exemplary source-based
distro
Opinion.
> Arch users are the ones who prance about telling the world about how cool and haxor they are for using it
Arch users are so common these days, I really do not see this happening anymore. Maybe it was more prevalent in the early days.
Regardless, as a Debian user, it annoys me that you jackasses are always trying to take the limelight. Especially, the Gentoo users in this thread. You people are some of the most arrogant nerds I've ever seen.
>>55493170
Debian
>>55500448
>They do their own thing. Gentoo wants nothing to do with systemd and Ubuntu wants nothing to do with contributing to Linux.
Neither are free as in freedom either.
>>55500448
>they do their own thing
and arch wants nothing to do with being a good distro
and Debian wants nothing to do with not being Debian!
I didn't realize how easy it was to make those little phrases to say something was "special snowflake".
>Arch is so common nowadays
Only on /g/.
>I don't see Arch users acting autistic and shilling it all over the board anymore
The only way to do this would be to filter the word "Arch", and you obviously didn't do that or you wouldn't be in this thread. Maybe nowadays you only look at the pictures and skip the words when you come on here (?)
>it annoys me
[rustling intensifies]
If you can't handle the banter why did you come to this thread? You knew it was just going to be shitposting back and forth for a few hundred posts.
>Gentoo is always trying to take the limelight
kek. Gentoo users only step in to stop Archfriend circlejerking because every argument ever made for Arch applies doubly to Gentoo.
>>55500498
What even is this new meme? Gentoo is as free as in freedom as Arch. At least with Gentoo you don't have non-free shit thrown into your kernel unwittingly, and you have the ability to mask everything except GPL if you really care about freme, memre, and open meme software. (inb4 debianfriend comes back: yes. i know debian is better if you fap to stallman)
