>mfw i show up to my FIRST computer science lesson
>mfw expected to already know how to program
>>55360705
jew vs muslim hacker?? who is best?
>>55360720
>Muslim Hacker is trying to blow up society
>Jew Hacker is trying to make billions of dollars
what the fuck? What school? There should be intro courses
>>55360705
In what Language?
>>55360705
>mfw when I show up for my first networking class and I'm the only one who knows the difference between a modem and a router.
>>55360764
I bet you felt special fucking dumbass.
>>55360705
I call BS. Even at top-tier and ivy league schools they assume no knowledge of programming in intro classes, though they do teach at a pace that assumes you can pick it up quickly.
>mfw entire year is worthless as i already spent the past 5 learning alone.
>>55360778
Damn, Reddit, you salty fish. Were you one of the retards that "got into tech" for le epic money and can't get a job because you're literally worse at it than the average pajeet?
>>55360778
Awww is some one bitter because they don't know networking? Actually I felt ashamed of the class since a lot of them said in their introductory posts online they have had prior networking experience. Now run along child, go back to jerking off to your animated 13 year olds.
>mfw when I take my intro Linux class and my professor doesn't explain anything, doesn't do anything on a computer, and expects us already to know dozens of commands
Great fucking class
>>55360791
Tru, literally had my first A level lesson today.
>>55360838
Install Gentoo
>>55360826
Yes I browse le leddit please fuck my asshole
>>55360741
lol
>>55360877
Sorry /g/ likes tight assholes, not ones that are prolapsed because of you DP with dragon dildos.
>>55360889
Whatever. You have a small dick. DICKLET
I can't believe that non-autists keep getting tricked into Computer Science and STEM
Do you people even know how behind you are? If you don't have several years of tinkering with electronic or working with the bash shell why are you entering into a university for computer science? Why are you borrowing money, or wasting your father's money, to pretend that you're 'good with computers'?
If you were supposed to be in a computer science program, you'd already have demonstrated an extreme enthusiasm for the subject. You would have learned at least some programming already - if you show up without knowing anything about computer science, they're going to wash you out in the first three years like the dumb cattle that you are.
>>55360917
>implying a person you've never met has a tiny dick
>>>/reddit/
>>55360945
Its OK. Keep denying it faggot
>>55360826
wish i lived around more tech companies or at least companies that need a larger IT staff and not just call center shit actual hands on shit. Everything around me is fucking help desk garbage where Im pretty sure id fuck up cause I suck ass with WORDS at least if they fucking had me running fixing easy shit i could work may way into networking shit. maybe im wrong im probably just a fucking faggot
>>55360958
I sense so much anger from you anon, are you mad because a pajeet stole your programming job? :^)
>>55360741
extremely underrated comment
>>55360995
Says the IT tech support fag
>>55360741
Never watched those shows but holy shit
>>55360992
I work help desk for my college, usually it's not that bad, typically we just have pre-written instruction packets you read off of, once you actually get a hang of it you'll have the steps memorized and just spew it out without having to refer to the script.
>>55361041
id probably fuck it up in someway im better with my hands ;)
>>55361012
>IT tech support fag
That may be true, but at least I have a job and don't sit in a basement all day angry at the world. :^)
>>55360842
well, install something on your computer that isn't shitbuntu and when you have an issue there probably won't be a perky gui to help you out
>>55361070
Nah not really, basically it's like this "IT this is anon speaking, how may I help you?" then they spew out what their issues are and you walk them through the steps to fix it. Pretty simple.
>>55361084
DELETE THIS NOW!
>tfw first day CS
>professor walks in
>opens up emacs
>stand up
>call him a macfag and walk out
>>55360862
>he can't comeback from that burn
>>>/facebook/
>>55360705
Great job reading the course description OP
>>55360791
Depends, my university has an optional Intro To Programming For People Who Can't Code Before but freshmen usually skip it
>enter programming class
>never made a single program before
why the fuck did you even sign up for it.
>>55361224
Because it's the major with the highest paying job out of a bachelor's.
>>55361224
im interested in learning programming but have a hard time actually "understanding" if that makes sense someone giving me a task to complete or lets me look through a program thats premade lets me look at it. I've taken entry level programming courses only in C++ which was interesting and I did enjoy it but I just cant really think of anything to actually make that could allow me to apply what little i know that would help
>>55361250
>muh money
Enjoy your unemployment.
>first programming course
>its a "here is when you use for loops, here is when you use while loops" subject
>second programming course
>its a "here is when you use for loops, here is when you use while loops" subject
>third programming course
>its a "here is when you use for loops, here is when you use while loops" subject
>fourth programming course
>its a "here is when you use for loops, here is when you use while loops" subject
I would kill for some real programming. Third year computer engineering and so far the hardest piece of programming has been writing some basic data structures.
Meanwhile in the fucking maths subject:
>first maths course
>its a "heres everything you should have learned in the last 12 years of schooling in a week" subject
>second maths course
>its a "heres everything learned in the last 400 years in a week, now apply it all intuitively"
>>55361364
How's ITT Tech?
>>55360741
Ayy famlmao to be honesto
>>55361250
LOL if money is the only thing you want you'll be disappointed by every thing you do.
>>55361106
Nah man, I'm gonna keep it up here, it is obvious you hate the world, lemme guess Sanders 2016 right?
>>55361374
That would be an improvement. The last exam I did with an IT subject, we got given the questions a week before the exam.
>mfw professor is a poo loo, no one can understand what he's saying and he's a terrible programmer
Why do these retards get hired?
>>55361364
>>first maths course
>>its a "heres everything you should have learned in the last 12 years of schooling in a week" subject
>>second maths course
>>its a "heres everything learned in the last 400 years in a week, now apply it all intuitively"
i also feel like this, fuck math
>>55360741
reddit gold for uo
>not being able to teach yourself
>not having been interested enough in the subject to have previously played with it
>not being up to a difficult challenge
You're in the right feild!
>>55360741
ayyyyyy
>>55361364
In one of my computer engineering courses we were supposed to write an embedded kernel and whiny adults kept complaining so now it's just writing a basic task scheduler, not including any of the data structures involved or register manipulation. Fucking list traversal for 6 months.
I got into this course for low level software and I'm forced to play with resistors and PLCs like a 5 year old.
>>55361468
I actually enjoy this, Math is my only course that isn't painfully slow. The only bad part was that my professor would make the tests ridiculously more hard than the previous material and not provide practice material for obscure problems but test us thoroughly on them.
>>55360741
How exactly is >le ebin hackerman a mudslime?
And how exactly is freeing western society from Jew-run debt slavery a bad thing?
>>55360705
Bullshit. You probably just aren't intelligent enough to understand the basic concepts. Almost every single university that I've ever heard of assumes no programming knowledge for entry level computer science courses. Most do, however, assume some base level of intelligence and possibly familiarity with basic operation of a computer.
what do i do, i bs'd my way past a bunch of math and other courses now i have to take courses on something i know nothing about
>>55360741
...except Rami Malek isn't Muslim. The dude drinks alcohol, so maybe he is, but he sure isn't a good one.
>mfw normie teacher try to tell me my dot bat file isn't a programming language
>>55361424
ok geek squad, shouldnt you be installing antivirus on old men computers or something?
>>55361920
Scripting ain't real programming, kiddo.
>>55362059
ok pajeet
>>55361468
>third mathematics course
>what the fuck is this group shit, how the fuck is it going to...
>oh
>oooh
It really blew my mind when we started expressing regular languages in terms of semirings.
[spoilersong]It didn't prepare me for the mathematical logic course. It was a crazy ride from beginning to end.[/spoilersong]
i have a physics degree and make 100k
>Want to take a CS course because I don't know what else to do and my friends are all telling me they've loved it (they're all in different countries so it's not as if they're all in the same class together)
>Scared I'm gonna be too retarded for it
>Not sure what sort of jobs I'll be able to get after
I'm kind of interested in electronic engineering too, like I'm fascinated by PCBs and want to learn how all that sort of shit works. But I'm not sure what sort of job I could get with that either. I don't know what the fuck to do with my life.
I might be overthinking things though, all the times I've tried learning how to program at home I've given up because I lack the motivation, so I might be better in a classroom environment.
>>55362269
>PhD in Maths
>any job I want
>$300k starting
>>55361896
He's from Egypt dumbass, he's not muslim.
>>55360741
You've won the internet today, sir.
Here, have a Loli.
>>55362908
Majority of egyptians are muslims.
>>55360741
top zozzle
CS or Mechanical Engineering lads?
>>55363534
Art Disciplines
>>55361860
He is """"""""""""""""""""literally"""""""""""""""""" egyptian who are ruled by a party called The Muslim Brotherhood.
>>55360741
he was raised christian
>>55363534
they are very different. im taking MechE and i dont enjoy it very much
>>55362369
Can anyone help me?
>>55365213
If you take "a" CS course you won't get any job offers from it. If you take a PLC programming course you'll be able to get entry level controls positions.
>>55360705
>>mfw expected to already know how to program
no shit, sherlock
you think this is a fucking video game?
>>55361196
>Depends, my university has an optional Intro To Programming For People Who Can't Code Before but freshmen usually skip it
If that's the case it's OPs fault for not signing up for the appropriate class.
>>55360838
>it's an online class
>>55360791
>Even at top-tier and ivy league schools they assume no knowledge of programming in intro classes
not stanford, princeton, or MIT. they don't want you to waste your money on shit you don't need.
>>55363561
Are you retarded?
>>55360842
> i expect my professors to spoonfeed me everything
everyone on /g/, ITT.
GL getting respect
>>55360918
this though. i just vet everyone in my class asking them if they have any experience or interest in the subject. it's pretty obvious in the conversation whether they really care about it, and have projcets/questions (thus, have things in common) or if they're just in it because they heard you can get money (in which case, we may not have much in common, in which case i will cuckhold them at a later time with my metaphorical big dick)
>>55365252
Interesting, thank you.
>>55361311
well, hate to tell you this but ""understanding"" what you learn is kind of the entire point of everything
>>55361795
how's the australian education system treating ya?
>>55363185
Chitanda isn't a fucking loli you idiot she's 17 years old. Kill yourself you dumb motherfucking piece of shit
>>55362369
>want to learn how all that sort of shit works.
protip: you are not going to learn it in university.
if you really, truly, want to learn, download some fucking books right now. else, shut the hell up
>first programming class
>Hello World
>by the end of the semester doing basic database shit
Mine was ok
>>55365490
yeah, i had this experience too. quite disappointing. total waste of money.
i know more than the teacher
>>55365340
> I expect everyone to learn everything without the help of professors, who are paid at least in part to teach
Not all teaching is spoonfeeding my dude.
>>55365468
Well, damn. What sort of jobs could I get with learning that anyway? And wouldn't they want some sort of qualification proof? This is also why I'm a little skeptical of learning shit at home.
>>55365505
My teacher was cool though an EE guy, got me on track for this undergrad research shit
>>55360705
>mfw I show up to my FIRST maths lesson
>mfw expected to already know that 1+1=2
>>55365562
Damn dude you were an advanced little kindergartner
>>55365562
that's pretty advanced, I think I started with counting apples
>>55365550
>undergrad research shit
yeah that's what i want to get into, because i'm so tired of being bored
>>55365591
funny because I bet you go to a better school than me
>>55365614
what school? qut here
>>55365646
shitty state university
>>55365685
ameribro?
>>55365777
yeah
>>55360720
>>55360741
shit sempai who is the dude on the left i dunno all the popular hacker animes
>>55360918
If you have that much talent and squander it at university then you're probably in a poor position to criticise people making a go at challenging themselves desu anon.
>>55360918
this tbqh
but
>borrowing money to pay for education
capitalism at its finest
>>55365340
But isn't that why you go to college for programming, to get spoonfed how to program?
If not why the fuck are you paying for something you can learn for free in your free time?
>>55361087
>perky gui
It rhymes!
>>55362557
any code monkey job you want
$80k starting
ftfu
>>55362369
If you aren't into it walk the fuck away from it, I tried to force myself into it and was pointless, university will change nothing trust me, nevertheless I got a job with OO programming, and I'm fucking struggling, I kinda hate it, the only perk is that it pays well, but is it worth it? (I'm more into low level and procedural, but all jobs here are OO with fucking frameworks).
But I was thinking of saving some bucks and get a Eletronical Technician degree or something, and post that there are profundization courses in PLC that are pretty short and seem accesible, the idea motivates me at least.
Doing electronical engineering would be ideal but working 8 hours in something I already struggle with makes it hard.
Do what motivates you the most as long as there is some work available its ok, big money isn't everything.
TL;DR: I fell for the CS meme (I dont have the degree but took some courses and I have a technician IT degree aswell) and didn't walk away as soon as I felt uncomfortable with it, now I'm fucked.
>>55366274
plebs on damage control: the post
>>55366274
you have less than 4 seconds to identify the person in that picture, or you're a pleb
>>55360705
Take intro to comp Sci or intro to programming if your school has it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEgxS_vzQjU
this message holds true even with a CS degree :^)
>>55360918
>>55366715
couldn't agree more
Well it's called computer science, not programming.
>>55360792
U gotta have proof bro
>first day of GNU class
>get yelled at for running windows
>>55361468
Math is the language of love, learn it and you will prosper.
>>55361364
>>I would kill for some real programming. Third year computer engineering and so far the hardest piece of programming has been writing some basic data structures.
I actually go to a school with a reasonably respected program. Switched to a Film major after I realized that they next 6 courses were identical to the previous 6.
>>55367613
>Switched to a Film major
what a bright future you have in store for yourself
>>55366079
Pied Piper engeneer.
>Take a High School programming class a while back
>First day of class, teacher has no programming knowledge, hands us a book that's made for animation
>Teacher thinks animation is programming
>Mfw
>>55367630
With two minors. And a pretty sweet student job as a Math tutor.
I know what I'm doing. Just chasing the dream. ;3
>be me
>graduated from computer science with a math minor
>still don't know how to do anything
Fuck, all I do is google things.
Like shit, I'm playing around with lincucks, but realistically I'm like
"How do I set up apache on lincuck"
>sudo apt-get install apache2
"What about php?"
"What about MySQL?"
"How I do check my IP Address?"
"How do I know where the fuck apache even installed to?"
Etc etc, this is all I do. And I never learn shit, I just eventually memorize it. I have no ability to put these puzzle pieces together, all I can do is google answers.
REEE
>>55360842
>Intro to Linux
>assumes you already know Linux
>spend entire semester learning how to fix driver issues
>>55367791
then you're dumb, man.
>>55360791
At Iowa State they expect (or expected) you to know how to code at the entry level computer science/engineering classes.
>>55365330
Caltech has the option to test out of the intro class taught in python.
>>55368146
My degree says different nigga. I think you just are unable to be self-aware of yourself.
>>55360741
Ay lmao
![4607141-senior-man-using-computer[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7kYkbsr.jpg "4607141-senior-man-using-computer[1].jpg")
>Operating Systems class
>they expected me to know how to use windows
>First year programming class
> Intro to Java Object Oriented programming
>First day
>Okay class we are going to talk about Objects and arrays
Seriously wtf?
>>55360705
there's no way this is true, i had to sit in 2 classes of pseudo coding and another about fucking ms office and ms dos
>>55361872
This. I had to tutor a fucking kid in computer science (high school) and he's a 12th grader, been in CS for the last 6 months before his parents forced him to get a tutor. I had to explain if statements to him like 6 times and then he still complained that "he gets the concepts its just the coding part that he has trouble with." The fucking nightmareish part was that his mother would regurgitate that as well, and was convinced that even though by the end I was fucking writing the code for him just in psuedocode and he had no fucking clue what the algorithms were doing, he still couldn't translate "if x is empty" into "if len(x) == 0" even if I directly showed him that exact example two minutes earlier. He would also just stare at the screen for two minutes not saying anything before declaring "I don't know." Sorry for the rant but if OP is anything like this guy then this thread is a joke
>>55360705
️>he cant program
>>55368486
>Algorithms class
>they expect me to know quicksort
>first day in turbo-Jewing the dumb goyim class
>expected to already know fractional reserve banking
Its like annudah shoah goyim, oy vey!
>>55362005
Sorry it took so long to get back to you angry man. My work called me I had to fix the company LAMP server then we went out for dinner. Geek squad would be a good place to get your foot in the door though, I doubt you'd be able to keep the job since your people skills are horrible. :^)
>>55365305
Actually, it's a hybrid course, meaning we have discussion posts online then lab and lectures in person. :^)
>>55360741
DELET THIS
>>55366487
In what fucking language
>>55368741
'''''no'''''
>>55360705
>he thinks computer science == learning how to program
looks like you picked the wrong course
>>55361041
I'm working public education IT right now and I'm the one making the instruction packets :)
They give us a bit more freedom at work to boss the non-techie staff around and develop unique solutions for problems we see on campus.
>>55368927
Same here, except I don't write the instructional packets. Mostly what I do is a couple of hours on the phones, then run around campus with the techs to fix various things.
>>55367548
oh my god what the fuck this video perfectly describes everyone 99% of us
>>55368546
These are the people who are becoming lawyers and doctors and shit: rich white kids who are retarded but just money through it anyway.
Thank goodness you can't buy coding skill or impress people with how much you spent on github
>>55368421
You don't have to be smart to have a degree.
>>55360764
im guessing youre aware that they do different things, but are not quite sure exactly what they do.
>>55369064
Routers connect multiple networks and forward packets destined either for its own networks or other networks. A modem provides access to the Internet. Does that answer your condescending remark? :^)
>>55368969
Literally my job. But if you stick with it a bit and try to perform business-y stuff like "Gap Analysis" and try to make your little corner of the place run a bit smoother. Especially in an education environment, the older guys will encourage anything that creates a positive change in your environment.
Especially with Winblows being the standard around colleges, consider researching some basic diagnostic tools like Event Viewer, Active Directory, and all that jazz and teach your coworkers about it.
Public education IT is really fun, I hope you're having a blast too. Our manager loves D&D and board games, the director has an open-door policy for feedback, and we sometimes have department parties where fulltime staff bring in food. It's such a friendly environment!
>>55360705
>go to internship
>they don't expect me to know anything
>go find out why the ui isn't working pajeet
>ok mister chan
>fix everything
>wow pajeet howd you do it so quick
pajeet from pune showing you up
>>55366274
ok I confess
this position is utter bullshit and I know it
but it rustles my jimmies every fucking time
>>55369120
I do a work study, so they show me all sorts of stuff, currently right now they've handed the reins over to me for maintaining the AD for 3 open labs. We're also working on migrating the entire college over to 64bit Operating Systems. Next meeting I am going to suggest maybe getting more authentication servers so the computers can log in a little quicker. The office is a fun place too, we got a machine that emulates n64 games so when we have a dead day (meaning no phone calls) we'll all have a mario kart tournament.
I think a good intro course should start with the assumption that you have zero knowledge. That's why they're introductory courses. A lot of people taking the intro courses aren't even CS students.
Some people will say everyone going in should already know how to program, but those people are going to find out first hand that's not how things work. This is an occupation like any other. A lot of people aren't particularly interested in the field, they go into CS because there's relatively good job security and a decent salary after they graduate. Some of those people wind up being very good programmers, and some are mediocre.
I had been programming for a couple years before school and college for me was mostly catching up on the mathematics. I was hoping when I got out everyone I worked with would have an unhealthy obsession with computers but that's really not the case. Even if you work for one of the largest software companies, there's a slew of people who are very driven but are there for income alone. I work for a small company but some of the people I knew in college wound up working at Microsoft, Google, Amazon, etc. and many of them had zero interest in programming or CS before school.
That said, if you have genuine interest that will undoubtedly help. If you expect everyone to be like you though there's a good chance you're going to be disappointed.
>>55362232
> regular languages in terms of semirings.
How do they relate? True question.
>>55368983
Exactly. Trying to get into IT/CS is one of the worst decisions I have ever made.
>>55369155
i could say the same about the "if u dont have passion dont bother ur worthless and will nevar be teh leet hax" position.
Do you see that shitty meme image? That guy went into uni for math. He only liked math. Computers? Didn't know shit.
He came out creating a really horrible operating system called UNIX and got AT&T to fool the world into thinking it was hot tamales.
As long as you're the "type" you don't need to have been hacking gameboy ROMS and writing IRC servers in sepples since age 10.
>>55368517
how is that wrong?
>>55369254
that's because you didn't join a tech company you retard
if you joined an actual tech company, where software or hardware is their main product, you're their most valuable asset
>>55369117
>A modem provides access to the Internet
I'd recommend against a "tech support" job.
Some companies have glorified call center jobs, where they advertise customer support as an ""engineer"" job since you help "tier 1" customers and do recreates on issues//bugs. Most of these jobs require in-house certs and are soul sucking.
You have a large backlog, have to deal with terrible customers and have 0 career advancement.
Even worse is you lose valuable skill sets and get a vendor-lockin.
Avoid these jobs at all cost. Don't fall for the fancy engineer labs.
>>55360741
even though rami isn't muslim this made me kek hard
>>55369336
http://www.cisco.com/web/consumer/support/prod_faq_modems.html
Read the first sentence to the class anon. :^)
>>55366487
ky doesn't rhyme with y
>>55363561
>all arabs are muslim
how dumb are you lol
>>55369364
>http://www.cisco.com/web/consumer/support/prod_faq_modems.html
>/web/consumer/support
>consumer support
Oh right /g/ is consumer board now. This thread is now about graphics cards and pc cases with windows.
>A modem (modulator-demodulator) is a network hardware device that modulates one or more carrier wave signals to encode digital information for transmission and demodulates signals to decode the transmitted information. The goal is to produce a signal that can be transmitted easily and decoded to reproduce the original digital data. Modems can be used with any means of transmitting analog signals, from light emitting diodes to radio. A common type of modem is one that turns the digital data of a computer into modulated electrical signal for transmission over telephone lines and demodulated by another modem at the receiver side to recover the digital data.
>>55369254
>literally screenshoting youtube comments as evidence
neo /g/ is horrendous
>tfw switching from biology to cs in my 4th year at 21 years old
I-i'll be alright, I'll be the exception
>>55360705
If you don't already know how to program then why the fuck are you taking computer science?
>>55369364
That would be a cable modem, my friend, which is essentially a type of router. A true modem is a device which (mo)dulates a analog signal into digital data to be received by the computer and (dem)odulates data sent by the computer into an analog signal to be sent over an analog line such as a telephone line.
>>55367548
Who is this guy? What's his name?
>>55369415
Even though you may have proved >>55369364
wrong, you're still a fucking idiot for going great lengths to prove someone wrong on 4chan. Have fun jerking off to animated 13 year olds Michael, go have mother cook you up a celebratory pepperoni hot-pocket.
>>55367548
>unironically linking to a sam hyde video
>>55360705
Many highschools introduce programming, I don't see why that is a bad thing.
>>55369462
Or rather modulates digital data to an analog signal and demodulates an analog signal to digital, got that reversed there
>>55369476
>wah I was wrong but u should feel bad
>>55369476
>great lengths
>copy pasting
>>55369501
Sorry m8 not >>55369364 just saying, you're about as retarded as he is because you've gone great lengths to prove your point when you could have just ignored him and let him look like a dumb ass. Have fun with your temporary self worth because you proved a total stranger wrong on the Internet.
>>55369520
Says the guy defending the retard
>>55369545
Who says I am defending him? Just pointing out the autistic nature of both of them really. Now if you don't mind I have to see a woman about a cat.
>inb4 normie
REEEEE
>>55369520
Once again
>great lengths
>copying and pasting
Or even worse
>he remembered his freshman net+ course
Oh the humanity
>>55369520
Oh hi, not >>55369364, i'm >>55369501.
I wore out my Ctrl, c, and v keys doing that. Why didn't you worn me before hand?
>>55363561
Literal egyptian here
The brotherhood faggots were thrown out 2 years ago
>>>55368421
>You don't have to be smart to have a degree.
Sounds to me like he's more focused on the end goal rather than learning how to get there.
>>55360741
>>55369467
Sam Hyde
>>55369481
Okay....
Is what he is saying and identifying wrong though?
>english class
>expects me to know english
>>55360918
Too bad I do! And so do a lot of people here! Try again pal, maybe don't project next time.
>>55361466
>had a chinese faggot for UML and design patterns classes
>this fucking cunt would constantly change his opinion on things, and basically when you did something right on one day it would be entirely wrong the next day
Trying to reason with this shitskin was pretty much impossible. Also related story:
>Third year or so
>Java class
>It's basically "Learn how to deal with Eclipse and its shit" class
>It's shit but it can be dealt with, no sweat
>When suddenly one day during class this autistic fuck has a hissy fit over the glassfish server not working properly
>proceeds to rant for nearly half an hour about how we should be using Ruby on Rails for this assignment because Java is old and stupid
>basically doesn't even name any proper arguments, just spouting like a fucking sperg with "muh personal experiences"
>fucking 15 minute rant about how we all should be using ruby and nothing else because it's the future
>teacher's face when
>just tells him this is a java course and we're not going to flip everything upside down because he can't bring up the patience to learn anything else besides ruby
>autist spergs some more
>basically gets told to fuck off and drop the course if he hates it so much
>he drops out of college entirely
>because of a hissy fit over java
It should also be noted this guy used arch and got pissed like shit because he had to install some DE shit on his "lean mean arch machine". The java teacher basically told him to install something proper on a VM because she wasn't going to deal with some script-kiddie's anti-standards install and risk breaking shit because of stuff she wouldn't know about.
>>55361896
Good.
Muslim.
Choose one.
>>55360705
I can't unsee it now
>>55371231
>Too bad I do!
That's the problem. People who self-assess usually give themselves big scores because they don't know how bad they are.
>>55361860
muslim or not who the fuck cares, shows is not about him being muslim
>>55360741
Include me in screencap ;_;
>55360705
>mfw i show up to my FIRST math lesson
>mfw expected to already know how to add and multiply
>>55360764
>mfw I never show up to networking class
>mfw I still get an A for learning a bit before exams
First semester was way to easy and now Im fucked in the second one, because I underestimated it.
Oh well.
>>55361364
>its a "here is when you use for loops, here is when you use while loops" subject
We never learned this and we are expected to use the right one at the right times and people never had issues.
>>55369476
>being wrong
>calling others stupid for being right
Im still surprised how stupid some people can be.
>>55369520
>>55375585
TOP FUCKING KEK, HE JUST KEEPS GOING
Kys.
>>55361896
Put his underling at fsociety is a Muslim.
>>55360741
TOP KEK
>>55360705
fuck I know that
>new to Uni
>first Java class
>I have literally not the slightest clue about how to program
>no explanation
>we just talk about syntax and some shit
>still no explanation what to do with fucking code I wrote
>I tinker around in the java console on my own trying to figure out how to make my code run
>nofuckingideawhatthehelliamdoing.png.exe
>how to compile and make it run comes next time
>fuckyou.wav
>>55369256
math is just computer science before computer science was a thing, not really a great example
>>55365547
>learning for reasons other than personal fulfillment of intellectual desire
>>55375647
Just use and IDE as starter. Once you understood how Java works, deal with compilers, Linkers and all that shit.
>>55360705
Why did you pick computer science then?
If you are interested in programming then why didn't you do it in your free time?
>>55375708
I know all that already, that was 3 years ago
no one told me to use an IDE in the first few classes
we ran Java in cmd until the prof told us to use an IDE after we learned how all that shit actually works
>>55360741
>>55360918
Fucking this all the way. If you aren't walking in the doors with a burning passion to extend your preexisting knowledge of computers, they're going to eat you alive. Higher education is an elemination game, that separates the people with a lifelong intrest and passion in the subject from the people who would be better off working at mcdonald's or the local computer repair shop. Going in with an attitude of, "Meh, I guess I'll try for a degree in computers, I guess," is what they're trying to get rid of.
Thats not to say one can't develop a passion for it, but that has to be something you already have before walking in the doors, not something you develop along the way. You'll know you've got the passion when you walk in the door not caring how difficult it is, or how hard you have to work because all you're focused on is your insatiable crave for knowledge and further understanding of the subject matter.
OP I hope you can see what I'm trying to convey. People like to put false hope into others by saying college is for everyone, but the truth is, college isn't for everyone. It takes drive, and a hunger that can never really be fully satiated.
>>55375772
>starting with 2 and then doing 1
I feel you, we are doing things the other way round aswell. First semester we learned Java and second one C
>first CS class
>prof has a lolita anime girl naked as wallpaper
>everyone laughs
>next class he has a landscape as wallpaper
>>55365340
It's college. You pay big money for your teachers to tell you how to do things.
>>55367791
50% of programming is knowing how to write what you want to do in google and then copy the most favourable Stack Overflow answer.
>>55360741
...T O P
K
E
K
>>55375917
>college takes drive, isn't for everyone
college is necessary to not be a NEET or working at mcdonalds/caretaking, get over yourself. College is for anyone that doesn't want to be in poverty
>>55376074
I had a chink in one of my classes that had a loli wallpaper on his laptop.
I saw it when I went there to explain him something about a program and the fucker wasn't even embarassed.
>look at programming courses at my university
>they teach all these random weeb languages
>they don't teach ANY Powershell whatsoever
whtat the fuck is wrong with programming today??
>>55375917
And while you want to believe all of that. Colleges still want anyone in their classes who meet the technical requirements, because regardless of any ideological perceptions people have of centres of academic revolution or ivory towers, the university is foremost a business..
>>55376511
If that were true, then there would be no poverty. No sain person would live in poverty if there was an achievable way out. The problem, it's not achievable by everyone.
>>55376942
And colleges also have names for themselves. If a college just cranked out unqualified graduates by letting them through easily, just to get their tuition money, then buisnesses and potential students would catch on. No buisness would want to hire from a college who just lets idiots out with a degree, and potential students wouldn't want to go to a college that no buisness would want to hire from. A name is very important to a college. Without it, they're essentially nothing but an american standards high school. Colleges make it just difficult enough to weed out people who cant handle it, and still make money from the people who can.
You dont have to listen to me, but I've experienced the challenges first hand, and overcome them. If you don't have the drive, you're just wasting your money (or my money as a tax payer, for financial aid, grants, etc).
>>55376826
Powershell is not programming. Powershell is Microsoft's sorry attempt at making a bash equivalent for Windows.
>>55360764
There's a difference?
>>55377717
They have a reputation for attaining funds from their failures regardless. Those failures including the inevitable lower 2nd and 3rd grade degrees (poor GPA for Americans). Reputation or as it is in actuality, prestige, remains more prevalent based on the seniority of a college in a country rather than its actual successes. More time in the game means more funding and more resources that people who pay to use via undergrads barely avail of unless their academic careers and fiscal investments in the university are large enough. You are literally paying them for the prestige.
t. Working in Academia
>>55377785
>Powershell is not programming.
/g/ is so fucking stupid sometimes
>>55378261
>shell scripting is programming
kys
guys i am trying to choose a university for a cs degree (4years), is is better to choose one that has a big range of classes but it is hard to find a job in the city it is located OR one that focuses on Java and has a smaller range of classes BUT there are a lot of jobs and i believe it will help me gain experience ? ,
>>55378718
Stay away from java mills.
Get a job in a different city than where your university is
>>55369520
>doing a simple research on cisco cs
>going to great length
choose one retard
>>55360741
What? You don't watch silicon valley do you? He wants to make the world a better place he states this specifically
>first cs class
>ok today we will go over binary after our introductions
>hello my name is...
>ok now that's done, let's learn binary
>binary is 1 and 0, on and off
>ok that'll be all today folks :)
uni is great tbqhwyfuuf
>>55380696
don't they all ?
before the money kicks in I mean
too lazy to check if someone posted this already
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Power-Consumption-Concerns-Radeon-RX-480
the best description/sum up of the situation
>>55380696
just like zuckerberg??? he wants to make the world a better place by ellecting hillary, opening up borders and allowing big corporations and globalists to get even richer???
>>55380977
if you didn't spend so much on ??? maybe you'd be rich too
>>55367791
nothing wrong with googling.
though you are supposed to read through the docs when you get new software, they sometimes lack any basic configurations and require you to know what's best for you, for lots of context irrelevant options
>>55360741
Kek
>>55365340
This, I've been called a code guru by peers simply because I have the mystical ability to read documentation in my own time
>>55381272
if you didnt suck dick, maybe you wouldn't be a faggot
