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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", ultraportable
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
>>55358521
anyone?
>>55358683
T430 with a T420 keyboard if you have no budget
>>55357015
Anyone?
>>55358683
T430 = better battery options, GPU
T420s = possibility of 1080p IPS with converter board (T420/430 at a later date).
>>55358780
Use it?
>>55358683
Both are fine choices, pick the one you like the looks of better.
Tfw gaming on a t450 with i5 5500 graphics and work on an x200
>>55358856
I'm in the process of a full charge cycle, powercfg tells me it's 68/71Wh (5% worn) and the serial matches a ThinkPad SL410/510 4 cell battery. First 30 mins of discharge has taken 7%
It was going for $60 but I called bullshit so the seller halved the price
>>55358780
>>55358856
>>55358857
thanks senpai
>>55358300
From last thread.
Any idea what's powered USB truly for?
>>55359734
I already told you. Yours is not working as expected, keep an eye on your USB devices.
>>55359734
Charging devices when the laptop is turned off
>>55359755
http://www.poweredusb.org/whatispusb.html
Also after some experimenting I noticed the following.
1. all the USB ports supply power when the laptop is on regardless if it was being charged or not.
2. all the USB ports supply power when the laptop is off, but only when it's being charged.
>>55359866
Did you not scroll down on that page? Does that look like your shit?
>>55358856
Just get T430s.
>>55359734
>powered USB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Sleep-and-charge_ports
How come dock stations doesn't come with built-in fan?
>>55360101
because it doesn't house a cpu
>>55360182
So you mean the Laptop coolers are a hoax?
>>55360225
docks are oem. not going to happen...
>we designed this laptop
>also, it overheats so use our dock
>>55360101
I don't see a need for one, but I have the Advanced Dock that wasn't designed by retards. Apparently the T420 dock actually blocks the fan ports? There's little holes in that corner on the Advanced Dock to prevent that from happening, idle temperatures stay nice and cool and load temperatures never go over 75C. If I offload graphics work to the eGPU in the dock, it'll stay under 70.
>lelnovo in charge of not fucking up previous designs that worked perfectly fine
Seriously, why do they do this? What is wrong with those chinks?
Just picked up a t420 with an i5 and 8GB of ram for $100.
Howd I do?
>>55360554
>If I offload graphics work to the eGPU in the dock, it'll stay under 70
What?
>>55360678
The Advanced Dock has a PCI-E slot that can take a small, low-power desktop GPU and use it with your Thinkpad. If I use it, my Thinkpad's integrated GPU doesn't have to do any work, so internal temperatures are reduced further than if the laptop were in the dock but still using the internal screen and GPU.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10444/the-lenovo-thinkpad-p70-review-mobile-xeon-workstation
This thing is a behemoth, you guys think this will be a powerhouse when it hits the pre-owned market?
>>55360621
That's pretty damn good anon
I went and bought an E560, how fucked is that?
Can anyone recommend a good laptop sleeve for an X220? I'm trying to find something made out of more traditional material (canvas and/or leather for instance) that doesn't look like some cheap nylon crap.
>>55360934
the E line is generally frowned upon, but I dont have any experience with it.
>>55360726
Link?
I have a T420 myself with intel HD 3000 GPU.
And since I pretty much use it as desktop, I though getting a dock station would be a good idea.
What's you opinion on dock stations?
>>55358636
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/
Opinion on the current Dell Latitude 5000 series? I'm in love with the way the 14" looks, only draw back for me is nothing more powerful than the skylake U series. They even have a wireless dock that supports two monitors, that's a major selling point for me.
>>55361905
The last model to support the Advanced Dock was the T400, sadly. For T410-T430, your only eGPU option is Expresscard/mPCIe adapters, which are clumsier and have some annoying drawbacks, though you'd get much better performance than the Advanced Dock since you wouldn't have the size/power limitations, nor would you be stuck on a Core 2 Duo CPU.
>>55361916
>>55361953
I see, then do you recommend a dock station?
Or it's just an accessory?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnezqFu6crU
>>55361977
c-cute
>>55361953
Hey I have a T400 with advanced dock. I don't have a good GPU for it yet (GT220 I had lying around) but I have a few questions to ask.
1:With the GPU in the dock my laptop does not boot if it's plugged in. I.E. when I try to start the laptop up from a cold boot while it's in the dock the fans just start spinning but it continuously resets. Is it possible the GPU is trying to draw too much power?
2: When I plug my laptop in after it's already booted it works fine and recognises everything, including the GPU. It says however that there are insufficient resources to use it (as I have my dGPU active). Does this mean the eGPU will only work if I start the laptop up in the dock?
3: What's the best GPU for the dock? I heard the R7 240 is best but I'm wondering what the best version of that card is for the slot.
Thanks.
How do the BIOS locks work?
If one of my friends/family members ever locked it accidentally i would be able to remove the lock myself?
If someone stole my thinkpad and i had it protected and SSD encrypted that laptop would be useless for whoever stole it from me right?
>mfw my x201 is fully compatible with windows xp
give me a reason to update or switch to linux
>>55362524
because xp is shite
>>55362524
>give me a reason to update
>What is 64-bit computing
>>55361905
Docks are nice. I have the i7-2620m and the HD 3000 and i can run dual 1680x1050 displays off of it nicely (but the fan goes to max on youtube etc yet ive never gone above 95c even in stress tests so the blockage of the fan isnt an issue.).
As te other anon said, the only egpu option is expresscard/mpcie.
make sure you get the model 4337 one if you want audio on the dock, the 4338 has a ton of video ports but no sound.
T420 8gb ram for $80
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371668155872
yes/no?
>>55362926
Get it before I do.
>>55362926
its 1366, but still a good deal I'd say.
http://tp.krelay.de/index.php?type=4177-qgu
>>55362926
>55362926
>supervisor password
>>55362760
>model 4337
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-4337-10U-45M2489-45N5887/dp/B00NVO2RFS
This one?
Is there one with barely anything?
>>55363032
wat. they go for $21 on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Lenovo-ThinkPad-4337-Mini-Dock-Series-3-90W-20V-AC-Adapter-/121963079570?hash=item1c6590e792:g:wi0AAOSweW5U7jPj
if you want keys, just look for one that has them.
>>55363002
should be able to remove any bios password by clearing cmos or similar
>>55363160
Not on a thinkpad.
>>55363180
I'm sure I could figure out a way to clear it by shorting something
might not be intended, but it must be possible
Is it worth installing SSD's in all these if theyre all gonna be PATA/IDE?
Will a 65W charger power a ThinkPad Mini Dock Plus Series 3? They have 90W and 135W in their names
If not, then I gotta buy a 90W or 135W charger?
is the advanced dock compatible with the t420 and what's the best GPU you can put in it?
>>55362760
I just realised I have to choose between audio and eSATA
God damnit.
Should I find some way to connect desktop HDDs via USB?
Or should I get some sort of USB to sound / mic adapter?
>>55363064
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-433710U-Docking-Station/dp/B010FY4EKC/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1467407077&sr=1-1&keywords=t420+dock+station
Found this, the USB 3.0 is tempting.
Thinking of buying my first Thinkpad, probably on eBay. I got some noob questions:
1. Should I get Used, Seller Refurbished, or Manufacturer Refurbished?
2. Is the difference in price between T410, T420, and T430 worth it? I'm just going to be doing routine school work and watching movies.
3. Is SSD a must? Will I even notice a difference versus a HDD?
>>55363604
Also,
4. Besides BIOS password, are there any other "red flags" to watch out for in the seller description?
>>55363604
>>55363629
1) Any of the above, just make sure it looks ok and has everything you need so you're not searching for little parts or trying to fix plastic. Pictures are worth a thousand words.
2) For schoolwork and movies, any of those 3 will be fine, the T430 will be more useful for if you branch out to other things like light gaming or stream viewing.
3) SSD is not a must, but its nice, and you will definitely notice a difference between. Boot times will be much quicker and general responsiveness when loading programs will be higher.
4) Stock Pictures, people always try and pull shady shit by posting stock pictures. If there is only one picture, try and reverse google image search it to make sure they didnt just take it from the web somewhere. Never buy a laptop with only one picture.
In the description watch out for "untested further" when talking about the bios boot testing, sometimes thats a loophoole for if the machine has some huge problem, they can say they booted to the bios and presumed it worked fine.
Got my T420 today~
Bought it for 200 on eBay.
Feels nice, just a little squeaky on the palmrest.
>>55363740
Thanks, man. I appreciate it.
Hi.
I love thinkpads classic design, the hard angles, the rubberized finish, the muted colors, and the empty space. It is the prettiest thing in the world for me
However I am NOT a professional user, I don't have the energy or will to mod, and I'd like to use it for games and stupid shit.
Is there an alternative for me?
>>55362524
EWW What the fuck I've never seen chrome on XP and that's the ugliest shit ever.
>>55363240
Are you legitimately retarded?
>>55363268
No.
>>55364001
no, I just know how computers work
>>55363314
T400 is the latest compatible with it.
I want to buy a thinikpad for my uni
my budget is 400 euro
I want it to have good battery life
Any suggestions ? thanks in advance
Hi guys.
I have a x230 but need some extra juice to run some graphical applications.
Regarding the use of an eGPU, what would be the best adapter? I see a bunch of "exp gdc" adapters in the wild.
Also, what would be the best card that wouldn't bottleneck the x1 pci-e connection? A 970? Something lower?
Also, how hard is it to configure AMD cards? I know they don't have anything like Optimus, so supposedly they're a pain to work with in an eGPU setup, or is there a trick to it?
And something unbelievable, a coworker that's an apple drone said the x230 looked sharp as fuck.
Is $300 too much for a T420? I live in Canada so everything here is more expensive.
>>55363783
get some liquid electrical tape, put it on the seams where the plastic sticks together.
Gives it enough room to compress but not slide and squeak.
>>55363969
Thinkpads dont have to be about modding, just buy a new one or a lenovo refurbished one. You can get a t4xx that runs as you want right out of the box.
Modding thinkpads is for people who either want frankenpads or have old machines they are trying to upgrade
Even then, if you're talking about upgrading the ram, cpu, etc, its not that hard. Its literally just unscrew a bunch of shit, switch out the parts and screw it back together.
How come recent thinkpads have almost 20h of battery life while most of other laptops such as those from asus acer or even ideapads have only 3 or 4 h ? Why don't asus... pull out their fingers from their ass ?
>>55364266
X230/X220 with a 9 cell and a slice battery.
X220 takes non-original batteries too.
X220 200-350€
x230 250-400€
Slice battery 50-100€
>>55364092
not him, i know what you're suggesting works on most desktops, i'm not so sure that it will work on these laptops, specially considering features like computrace built in, the password is probably not on some sort of volatile memory.
>>55364266
I want the same and got about the same budget. You can go >>55365265 route, although that will make the laptop pretty thick. I am considering getting a x240.
Are there any sites besides shitbay for buying pallets/large lots of gookpads?
My 2009 M@C finnalllllyyyyy died so I have a reason to get a new laptop. Any good recommendations from 500-800 dollars?
>>55365063
consumer versus enterprise products
>>55365700
worst case scenario I can physically replace a chip on the board
but I really doubt this is necessary
Hey /g/uys, got a couple of questions, pretty please respond
In regards to new thinkpads, what is the difference between the T series and the E series? I am looking at the lenovo website, and it seems they have similar hardware options and yet the E series is much less expensive, what gives?
Also, how is that pastebin discount real? Is this too good to be true. how did anyone here even get it? Would it be unwise to use your real information to buy one and send it to your home address?
>*30 line still expensive as fuck on ebay
I don't want a thinkpad with the shitty sandybridge CPU and trash-tier TN displays...
>>55366514
derp I meany GPU, sandbridge CPU is fine
Found an x200 for $80 should I go for it
>>55366399
E series is consumer line like you'd find in Best Goy, etc. Normally they lack certain features that their business lines (T, X, and W series) have. Those features may or may not be important to you coming from non-thinkpad experience, but once you have them they're hard to do without. Also, and more importantly, the build quality is considerably worse.
Don't confuse their Education line with E-series. People will still laugh at you for buying one, but they're built to withstand the abuse of middle-schoolers (they still lack features of their business line offerings though).
The employee discount is legit. Just go with it, plenty of people have with no repercussions. The absolute worst they could do anyway is cancel your order which to my knowledge has never happened.
>>55362524
you at least installed 64 bit xp right?
right?
>>55366305
you have to replace the entire motherboard
there is no cmos jumper, removing the battery does nothing, if you dont have that password you cant do much with it
trust me, trust /tpg/ theres a reason nobody buys thinkpads with bios locks or bios passwords on them
>>55358856
what's the latest on 1080p IPS adapter for T420? Is the guy still having intereference issues?
>>55366741
sounds like a tasty challenge
Is the i5-2520M in the X220/T420 capable of decoding H.264 and VC-1 bluray streams (both in software and hardware acclerated?)
Such benchmarks are difficult to find (all I can really find for the 2520M are geekbench/passmark and other worthless shit like that) and as for the hardware side of things, the wikipedia article for SaBr GPU only lists "VC-1: Simple, Main, Advanced" which is quite ambiguous.
>>55366792
When you do it, post pics.
So I'm trying to scoring a X240 for the Uni.
I'm doing good, /g/?
>>55366878
It can, though CPU temps will go high.
>>55358683
T430 is you want more of a battery upgrade
otherwise t420 if you don't care and want a good deal, also it uses third party batteries unless the T*30 and later
though both can be sold around the same price...
>>55358902
T440 was laggy but i am content with 'gaming' on my T430s
>>55361953
Honestly I believe the eGPU is better for performance, other than it being a pain in the ass to look at. The advanced dock sucks because its limited to a certain watt iirc.
>>55362367
short answer, no, long asnwer, maybe
Maybe & maybe. the average shmoe wont know what to do though.
>>55361905
Also I am happy using a dock on my T430s while gaming.
it just werks
havent tried two monitors because lazy..
>>55363740
Sound advice
fuck stock photos and 'manufacturuer refurbished' unless its specifically stated.
I didn't get burned but wasted a week waiting on a seller's shit laptop.
they aren't selling no more because they've got too many complaints :)
>>55363969
Who cares if you have a /biz/ laptop.
There has been people doing serious work on consumeshit and old as fuck computers.
No modding is necessary, apart from maybe installing an SSD if you were to upgrade and having some technical knowledge reinstalling an OS if you go that route.
W530 played LoL fine for me, I was most happy with the performance and the 5+ battery life that thing had with switchable graphics.
Good deal?
>>55364332
tough to say, if a X220 is much more cheaper, yeah its pricey. dont be fooled by E420/L420 price, they were wayyy inferior machines.
>>55366261
BrokerBin?
Check local recyclers desu.
>>55366399
Edge series don't have the nice frame, they are basically a plastic body like other consumer laptops.
the keyboard feels like shit, i mean you might not know given youare coming from consumeshit/non professional laptop so you'd think it would better.
Edge laptops are a little bit harder to work on. though new they seem cheaper and a better deal, buildwise thats a totally different story.
dumfucks sell and buy used edge laptops at T/X pricing because they look at specs only.
found an x220 for <$5 on ebay, should I get it?
they have a return policy tho
>>55362335
>1:With the GPU in the dock my laptop does not boot if it's plugged in. I.E. when I try to start the laptop up from a cold boot while it's in the dock the fans just start spinning but it continuously resets. Is it possible the GPU is trying to draw too much power?
The GT220 is apparently a 58W card, so that's certainly possible. The most the dock can supply is 50W. I've heard GPUs are even able to exceed their TDP for just a moment at boot, which would definitely explain this issue.
>2: When I plug my laptop in after it's already booted it works fine and recognises everything, including the GPU. It says however that there are insufficient resources to use it (as I have my dGPU active). Does this mean the eGPU will only work if I start the laptop up in the dock?
Could be power as mentioned above, could be due to a conflict with your dedicated internal graphics. I'm not too sure, my R7 240 works perfectly with both my integrated graphics T601F and my dedicated graphics T61. The T400 has switchable graphics, right? Have you tried using it with the dedicated card disabled in BIOS?
>3: What's the best GPU for the dock? I heard the R7 240 is best but I'm wondering what the best version of that card is for the slot.
I have the Sapphire R7 240 in mine and I have no complaints. It just werks and it's pretty evenly-matched with my T9300 CPU. It's a bit of a noisy card by default, but that's nothing that some tweaking with MSI Afterburner can't fix. That said, I would wait until the low-end 16/14nm cards are out before buying anything. We should be seeing a good upgrade from that, and if nothing else it'll at least lower prices further on current cards.
>>55367437
Mmmmmmm....
Ehhh...
no?
sold a W520 for $500 w/ 16 or 8GB ram
Best price/performance GPU to use as an eGPU with a T420?
I was thinking the 750ti.
>>55366878
I know I have a 1GB video that's 6m long and a 12GB file that's like 2h long, and it can't play either.
>>55367565
RX 460 when it comes out, it will be a <75w card like the 750ti but should perform like a 7870/760
>tfw just bought my tenth memepad
it's too late for me now
So the cheapest t460 ships with a 3100u for $650 with EPP discount
You can buy a t420 for under 200 bucks on ebay
YET
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-2520M-vs-Intel-Core-i3-6100U/m29vsm37381
Why is technology so gay now
>>55368103
Intel more or less hit the performance limit of silicon with Sandy Bridge. Most improvements brought by subsequent generations have been to power efficiency, the integrated GPU, and chipset features. Any perceived performance improvements actually come from new instruction sets and the like rather than any increase in raw power.
I'm running fedora 23 Gnome on a thinkpad x220 with a i5-2520 3.2GHz cpu. I've started noticing my CPU heating up to ~85C when i watch movies lately, is there a problem, and how do I go about diagnosing and fixing it?
How much RAM can I stick in a T420? 8 or 16 gigs?
>>55368511
did you recently change your vo in mpv?
>>55368511
>clean
>change jizz paste
>replace heatsink
In this order
it's always had problems like that though desu senpai
>>55368540
eight per slot, two slots
>>55368551
>>55368552
Right, thanks. I seem to recall someone saying they got 1600mhz ram to werk with a t420, does this require any mods or can I j-just jam it in?
>>55368543
>did you recently change your vo in mpv?
I have not.
hi guys
this is my first post in /tpg/
just bought yoga14
i'm digging it so far. :3
>>55368606
I have 2x 1600mhz 8gb sticks but they run at 1333mhz.
I'm sure you need to do something like install a custom bios to get 1600mhz but i don't care about it.
>>55368606
For it to run at its full speed, you would need a BIOS mod. If you just want the RAM to work and don't care that it runs at 1333mhz instead of 1600, you don't need anything, it'll downclock itself automatically. It doesn't make a big enough difference to be worth trying to get it running at full speed. HD 3000 is so weak that slightly faster RAM doesn't really help it much and the difference is even less noticeable in regular system usage.
>mfw reselling these t420s
>>55368621
yoga is a thinkpad in name only
>>55368621
I got my ol' lady a Yoga 11e because she wanted touchshit. On the whole it's pretty based but I can't stand the lack of a clitarrow.
>>55368791
more like STINKpad amirite
HAHA
Should I get T420 or T430?
Not gonna be doing any gaming, but I want to be able to stream shows.
>>55368985
Are we voting? I vote t420.
>>55358636
X220 tablet is god
Anyone in north Houston?
>Discount available if you want two
>>55368985
If you dont care about the layout t430
>>55368985
I'd say t430 unless you like the t420 keyboard.
i think you can put a t420 keyboard in a t430 though
>>55368985
Vote on t420
>>55368985
Mark my vote as t420
Got a mini dock 4338 for my x230 tonight. About to relegate my i3-2120-era desktop to server duty only.
How fucked am I using an x230 as an all-day-every-day?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp3y8ZoB8oA
>>55368985
t430 for the smooth streaming
Is this a good deal for a T430? It's Used, not Refurbished...The "No Returns" policy is kind of scary, but it looks tempting:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-New-Upgrades-Windows-10-8gb-ram-180gb-SSD-Free-Shipping-/122026459572
>>55369029
Katyfag reporting. I get the impression you bought a lot of them to flip. Are you really having trouble selling them? I figured there'd be a big /tpg/ market here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTeqH3QJ46s
>>55369457
I'm not the seller, I saw the listing and was interested in negotiating a lower price with the dude
>>55368791
much like the majority of the garbage gookovo puts out these days
>>55358636
I snagged a Thinkpad X230T for $150 in near perfect condition a couple of months ago.
Bought it for digital drawing and 3d work, and threw in 16gb of ram for an extra $50 bucks.
How'd I do?
>>55370416
$150 is a sweet ass deal.
What does /tpg/ use?
>>55370962
classic dome master race
all others will soon be gassed on the DOTR
>>55366741
BIOS passwords can be removed in <1 minute on an X220 with just a screwdriver.
It takes about 5 minutes on a T420 because the chip is on the bottom of the motherboard so you have to take it apart completely.
What's the difference between Libreboot and Coreboot?
>>55371424
three letters
>>55364289
Guys? Bump!
>>55371831
I don't know about adapters, but get a 750ti, it's plenty.
Best way to buy a used T520 in Germany?
400 kekbucks on ebay seems a tad much, but I want 1080p and the i7
>>55372407
buy a W520
>>55372407
get the 1080p and then swap an i7 in yourself
not sure how much they'd be in brexit bux but quad core i7s can be had for around 65 koala koins if you're patient, whereas a T520 with an i7 preinstalled is usually around $150-200 higher than one with an i5 for some reason
I'm running off a W520 TP, but the 230 GB drive is almost full, because I use windows (probably at least 20 gigs), have 150 in music files and the rest in .pdf's and a few programs. I can't keep deleting shit.
Can somebody recommend me an external purely for music storage and playing? The wiki recs an internal one with an external case, but I have abs. no clue. Are wireless viable?
What did he mean by this?
>>55372609
you can buy HDD adapters that slide into the DVD drive slot ($6 from China), so one of those and any 2.5" drive would be alright
>>55372514
Pls be in London.
I am dying
>>55372664
>512mbps
>Vista
I can see the spinning aero mouse circle already...
>>55372685
>Mbps
Why is there no white or aluminum ThinkPad?
Black looks so dated next to an Apple
cop or not?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-Latitude-E6330-2nd-Gen-Intel-Core-i3-320GB-HDD-4GB-RAM-Windows-7-Laptop-/351768584814?hash=item51e70aa26e:g:l5kAAOSwVghXFNj7
Looks like a good price
>>55372711
Thinking about getting an x260, is an i5 or i7 worth it over an i3 ?
Does the fingerprint scanner work well on GNU/Linux ?
>>55371908
Thanks!
Anything above 750ti isn't worth it then?
>>55373100
Not really, I've got an aging AMD Radoen HD7750 1GB and it still suits my needs for adobe cs6 and sony vegas, the 750ti smokes my card, and is cheaper than a 970.
>>55373119
That's good to hear.
>>55364531
>>55367368
There is no thinkpad in the t series with a consumer-oriented gpu, afaik.
Just got a X220 with docking station for 125 euro monies.
After cleaning it, everything's looking fine except for the screen hinges not properly locking when closing the laptop. They're stuck on the left side, while I think they should be on the right in rest position. Any way to fix this?
>>55373838
Dammit, I meant an X200
>mfw there will never be a laptop as comfy and cute as the x61 tablet
I just got a x201t.
Does the CPU/Motherboard temperature being in the mid-60 to mid-80 degrees C range typical for normal web browsing?
If I just buy a 420 from newegg, whats the chances of it being decent? Red somewhere that sometimes the thinkpads from there are pretty trashed.
>>55346380
can someone bring me some light on ultranva keyboards and their compatibilty? anyone?
>are keyboards on IBM 1U 17-inch and 19-inch Flat Panel Console Kits
>>https://lenovopress.com/tips0731?cm_mc_uid=05155190685314673248886&cm_mc_sid_50200000=1467324888
>any different than the "ordinary" IBM UltraNav USB Keyboards? I see they have different part numbers.
>and are the actual keyboard modules of either of those swappable with keyboards of any Thinkpad model?
>layout-wise, they look pretty identical to T40|41|42 keyboards to me.
this article
>>http://www.ibmfiles.com/pages/sk88xx.htm
>however says the hardware is different.
>>55372825
underrated post
>>55374156
Why are you getting a 420 instead of a 430?
>>55370416
Lucky you. Someone here is offering the same but for 900.
>>55370416
completely amazing
so, have you ever tried getting girls by telling them about how skilled you are rubbing clits?
>>55370416
That's a sweet deal.
Got a x220 tablet couple weeks ago. Pretty sure the screen almost hasn't been touch by previous owners, I saw almost no wear on the pen. Pretty sure some company bought them thinking it would be a good idea having them, then ending up just using them as regular x220's anyways. I mean, which companys actually need the ability to draw on a screen?
I love the IPS on this device, and drawing on it isn't that bad at all. Perfect for travelling. Pretty sure I'll invest in a 9cell battery some time though. Currently packing old original battery which isn't exactly in the best condition.
Just fell for the Thinkpad meme, fellas :DDD
T430
i5 processor
8 GB RAM
180 GB SSD
1600x900 display
$215, shipped.
How'd I do? Babby's first Thinkpad here.
>>55372904
>x260
btw does it affect battery life ?
>>55374575
terrible, you overpaid by 2 dollars
>>55374156
don't get a thinkpad called t420, man that screen is horrible. Keyboard is amazing though. If you have plans on connecting it mostly to external screens it should be fine.
>>55374611
is the t430 screen that much better?
>>55374626
Same panels, to my knowledge. You have to go bigger or smaller. X220/X230 have IPS, but resolution is limited to 1366x768. T520/T530 have much better quality panels that go up to 1080p, but they're still TN. T420/T430 are compromise machines, and they suck as a result.
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>>55366878
Yep, full hardware acceleration up to 1080p.
How is the dtate of the full hd ips panel mod in non s T420/430 guys?
>T420
>900p
>320GB
>4GB RAM
>mint condition
All this for 200 yuros
Yes or no?
>>55375187
mint condition makes that a definite yes
I did the deed and I pulled the trigger on a brand new ThinkPad last week, and now my bank account has all of the money from the laptop back in it. However, I have no notice of error regarding the order in my email.
What gives?
thinking of buying a T41 tablet, but the 32 bit bentium cpu scares me
is it possible to install a 64bit cpu in there or am I fucked?
>>55375221
Thinkpads weren't 64-bit until T60/T61.
It's okay though, the Pentium Ms in the T4x aren't related to Bentium 4s, they were Intel's first step to recovery by switching back to the mobile Pentium 3 microarchitecture, which they've stuck with to this day. They might not perform very well by today's standards, but you won't be burning your house down.
eurofag here
is it good deal?
>x220
>i5 2520M
>4gb ram
>new IPS panel
>$350
>>55375290
thanks, I'm still put off by the fact that it's 32bit and is thus limited in memory, but I guess it's better than buying a lenovo instead.
>>55375370
Don't be scared of Lenovo-made ThinkPads
They're all fine until about 2012.
>>55375370
Some of the late *4* models were actually made by Lelnovo. I know the X41 Tablet and the T43 were, and I think they were already doing the manufacturing for a few years before they bought the line. Not sure how far back you really have to go to get a "true" IBM Thinkpad.
>>55375362
No. Maybe with a big ssd and ram upgrade.
>>55375362
I just bought an x220 with same specs (but the CPU is a i5 2540m) from eBay for 200€, and it's probably the best deal I never did.
Looking to buy one of them Chinkpads
Will an i5-2520m be powerful enough to play my 1080p 10bit gook cartoons?
>tfw I tripped over my Ethernet cable and tore the port out
>tfw I now have to carry a USB adapter around
>>55358636
So I installed debian minimal on my x220 and now wondering if I should install some bloatware like tlp and/or thinkfan?
Advice pl0x?
>>55376163
also I added fstrim into cron.weekly
>>55376163
tlp is not bloatware
>>55376183
it's a figure of speech, anon
so it helps and install it, then?
>>55376198
Install it
Be sure to read the documentation: http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html
>>55376183
>not bloatware
>The following NEW packages will be installed:
acpi-call-dkms dkms dns-root-data dnsmasq-base ethtool hdparm iputils-arping libbluetooth3 libjim0.76 libmbim-glib4 libmbim-proxy libmm-glib0 libmnl0 libndp0 libnetfilter-conntrack3 libnm0 libpolkit-agent-1-0
libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libqmi-glib5 libqmi-proxy libteamdctl0 linux-compiler-gcc-5-x86 linux-headers-4.6.0-1-amd64 linux-headers-4.6.0-1-common linux-headers-amd64 linux-kbuild-4.6 modemmanager
network-manager policykit-1 powermgmt-base ppp rfkill s-nail smartmontools tlp tlp-rdw tp-smapi-dkms usb-modeswitch usb-modeswitch-data
0 upgraded, 40 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 13.9 MB of archives.
After this operation, 65.2 MB of additional disk space will be used.
>modemmanager
>smartmontools
>>exim
>>xinetd
fuck this shit, I am installing windows 7 back
How fixable are hinges and/or DC ports?
>>55376579
both replaceable quite easily and parts costs peanuts, depends on a model I guess
>>55376623
t430/t430s
tell me more
>>55376650
then it's all still true
>>55376404
OK, I was too asperger about that, --no-install-recommends is good, and also tlp saves about 1W on my setup as seen in powertop
So I bought a T61 for use with Ubuntu, I've had nothing but graphical errors since then. I'd like to sell it and get a better one,
It has a 240GB SSD, Middleton BIOS, functioning power cord, it works pretty well, just can't handle Ubuntu 16.04 LTS without some minor graphical glitching (I'm typing on it right now). How much do you think I could get for it?
Also, what model should I look into? I really only want it for Ubuntu for my daily driver, and possibly dual/triple booting CentOS or Debian to study for Linux+ cert. What's the best Thinkpad for the most streamlined Ubuntu 16.04 LTS experience?
bumparoooooney
>>55376820
will a retard like me able to fix it?
>>55377284
i don't think so, sorry
>>55377366
thnaks
>>55377284
You should be able to. Don't pay attention to >>55377366
>>55377497
if not I'll pay someone to do it
>>55368073
Bought my first one in January. Now I've had 6, of which 3 currently.
They are helluva drugs!
>>55370416
I made a mistake and traded my X230T into an Elitebook 2570P, because I didn't need the touch screen ;_;
>>55373866
Dammit! There's one near me for €80. Should I go and get it?
>>55363312
I have that dock and it works fine on 65W, charging may be a bit slow comparing to 90W though
>>55370962
soft rim
least wear over time
also feels like the most precise of the three
>>55371424
how did you get this far without the ability to read is the better question here?
>>55378001
>Dammit! There's one near me for €80. Should I go and get it?
Dude, stop compulsively buying memepads! lol Do you even need all of these? Are you collecting them or is this an addiction?
>>55378688
Not him but, one can not simply stop buying thinkpads man, I'm at my third one, even made a friend get one, the drug is spreading.
>>55379371
I have a X230.
Made my gf get a T430.
A friend then got a T420.
One colleague got a X250 because of my recommendation.
Other colleague was a cunt when I told him about the T series and he went and bought an E series because "hurr durr T series too expensieeeeve".
>>55379371
>>55379426
Got my X230, now my gf wants one too, time to start browsing for one again (she doesn't trust herself to get a good deal)
>>55379371
>bought T60 for myself in late 2014 without knowing about Thinkpads beyond that they're cheap laptops
>loved everything about it, but the specs were obviously lacking
>bought an X220 to accompany it and properly replace my dying ASUS consumer pleb shittop
>thus began the descent into madness
>bought a T510 for my mom
>a T420s for my friend and a regular T420 for myself
>picked up T61, T60p, G40, and another X220 over the span of a year or so
>assembled the T601F from my original T60, that T61, and the T60p, still have no use for that second X220
>just ordered a W520 yesterday
>looking at an X230 for my dad now
i've lost control of my life
One day I will own a W700DS
>>55379753
i feel the same
>>55379753
>five years from now
>W700DS are $10000
>>55379845
To hell with the cost, I just want to sit on a train or at a cafe and wait for some mac fag to pull out their pansy air and start browsing night clubs in Orlando, and then pull out the ne plus ultra of portable workstations. The shear weight of it causing me to stagger and drop it from several feet onto their precious air, the impact shattering the mac like the overpriced etch-a-sketch it is whilst the beast continues booting, having scarcely noticed the ongoing calamity, the roar of it's mighty fans shattering windows and breaking hymens for miles around. Then, and only then while the apple fag cradles the remains of his life savings, and everyone is lighting their post coital cigarette shall I pull out that glorious and ridiculous second screen and end this world.
How's the lenovo thinkpad e560, with the i7 6500U and the AMD Radeon r7 m370 for uni? I plan on installing linux on it, and use it for programming and light gaming (csgo, some other valve titles)? And how do the Linux drivers perform?
>>55379976
Lmao! I r8 this post 8/8, m8.
I want to buy a docking station for my x230 but most of them are sold without the power supply. I have a lenovo 90w power supply lying around in my room. Is it enough to power the docking station?
>>55380290
>e series
Why do you want to do this to yourself?
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
>>55379976
truly, this is a high quality poast
>>55380333
Ultrabase 3 for the X230 works fine even with a 65W brick.
literally have so many chinkpads I think I have disease now
P50 is my main machine
T450s secondary
X220 my loonix machine
a few x200's for home servers
another T450 for loonix
T420 running another server
T410 with win 7 on it
and a W541 idle with linux on it...
all the /g/ shilling got me. also have an x220t on the way for photoshop use.
I believe I may be the ultimate chinkpad hoarder
>>55381151
also missed the x130e next to the 450s. need to go through my walk in closet plenty of chinkpads still collecting dust.
p.s. please don't rob me
>>55374560
x220t didn't have lenovo 9cell
>>55381151
>implying
Take a picture of that
>>55381378
not gonna go digging up all my chinkpads
>>55379976
>>55372664
We had a shitload of those at work.
Some guy has a contract w/ a financial firm and bought a shit load of them for their newhires.
>>55373383
Mmmm. maybe a T430u, though I know it shouldn't count, it sports a nVidia GeForce GT620m, but it is crippled with a HD only display.
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>>55379753
Took me two years to get one after my first X61T
Though I recommend the W701ds if you want more than 8GB RAM.
>>55381151
At least you have good models to use and have probably the best utility out of them.
I just have junk once you remove the nostalgia goggles.
How do you clean the fingerprints off the top of the lid of you are think pad
I've had an x61 for quite some time already, and it's been relegated to collecting dust.
Sometimes I play kancolle on it, but that's it.
What do? sell? or anyone have ideas?
I mean, I just end up using linux in VM instead of booting the x61 so I just don't know what to do with it anymore.
But it's so cute.
>>55381950
x61 confirmed as the most cute laptop.
I'm looking at getting my first ThinkPad as an upgrade to a 4 year old fujitsu referb I got as a graduation gift, does this look like a reasonable deal? It looks a lot stronger than what I've been using and I'm interested in it: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-W530-2447DA2-16GB-320GB-2-90GHz-CORE-i7-3520M-W7P64-WEBCAM-/371664978896?hash=item5688f583d0:g:mnoAAOSwe7BWvK53
>>55382267
Mostly solid, but the CPU is only a dualcore i7. Besides the obvious CPU benefits, quadcore models in the W series have two extra RAM slots, allowing for a maximum of 32GB RAM. Still, for 1080p and the higher-end GPU, $450 is a tough deal to pass up.
>>55382267
Yes, that is a good price.
Currently working on the dankpads site, this is my result for W530
>Lowest $300, High $620, Highest/best spec/mint $800
>Nabbed a deal for $250 because someone needed money in a pinch, I put 32GB RAM and installed W7 on it's 500GB HDD and sold it for $500, this was an i7 quadcore
That unit comes with a K2000m GPU which is better than the K1000m I was testing.#
Looking at that display you should be good, there is a FHD panel that has a somewhat blue ting w/ lines up and down. Luckily from what it seems that laptop doesn't sport that display.
I had about 5 hours of battery life on my W530 when I used it, it kicked ass and felt damn good.
I mean you can maybe spot a better deal but that one forsure has the best GPU and display at a not so high price point for that model.
But the main drawback as >>55382503 said is the dual core CPU which won't have 4 RAM slots unless you mobo swap it... too expensive
Here's what I got for the Precision and Elitebook rivals.
M6700 - $420 - 700 // 950
8570w - $250 - 525 // 600
>>55382503
>>55382537
So would http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-W530-i7-3720QM-2-6GHz-16GB-180GB-SSD-2GB-K1000M-1920x1080-Win-7-/322032852402?hash=item4afaa75db2:g:FJsAAOSwOtBXTZ7W
Be better? Its a W530 but it says its a quadcore. Uses the K1000 instead of the 2000 and costs almost $200 more.
Anything under $800 is within my budget so I don't mind paying a bit mo if this is really better. I'm concerned about the weaker graphics card but don't know if the quadcore boost covers for that.
>>55382752
Nah, the first one is a better deal. 16GB of RAM should be enough for years to come, and you can always swap in a quadcore if you think you need the extra power.
>>55382797
I'm new to thinkpads, is swapping in new processors actually a common thing to do? I thought that was only really done for desktop machines.
>>55363268
Still faster than mechanical. Up to you if it's worth it.
Guys, please help me chose:
T420 with i5 2540M, 8GB RAM, 1600x1200 screen
or
X220 with i7 2620M, 4GB RAM, 1366x768
Both are the same price (around 190 EUR), with a similar battery condition of 3-4 hours. I would like the mobility of x220, but I'm going to stuck with it as a main computer for an unknown while, and the T420 seems like a much better deal, or not?
pic related, the actual x220
Is there any way to run more than 2 monitors off a t420 with the iGPU besides buying a egpu setup?
>>55382818
Yeah, it's fairly common. Bigger and higher-end Thinkpads are very modular, almost on par with desktops. The only internal component you can't change is the GPU, and there's eGPU solutions for that. Lenovo has Hardware Maintenance Manuals you can download from their support page that provide detailed step-by-step instructions to totally disassemble the computer down to the individual pieces. You get the one for your model, follow the instructions properly, and you can't fuck up.
>>55382977
You sure the T420 isn't 1600x900?
If you plan on using it as your main machine go T420
>>55382977
The t420 doesn't have that res
and the x220 with the i7 gets really hot and less battery life than the i5
>>55382977
if you're gonna get a t420 get the t420s instead so you have upgrade options once you realize how shit the screen is. and if you get the x220 get an ips screen for it
>going to vinyl wrap my t420
Hopefully the white vinyl wont look too shit. Gonna do the palmrest too and maybe the bottom if its possible and i feel like cutting all that shit.
Might get a black i7 vpro sticker for it for keks.
Wil the X series ever get thunderbolt?
>>55384127
Or actually, usb-c. because, you know, expresscard.
