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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

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I want an open source Instagram photo downloader (program), preferably CLI, for my GNU/Linux. How can I obtain one? No success in APT SEARCH.
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someone posts the "mount" one
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the "mount" one
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>>55298664
Check github. I'm 100% sure some people already made something like this.
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>>55298799
ebin
simply ebin
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http://bijo-linux.com/

but why? For what purpose?
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>>55298588
>man ls
>AUTHOR
> Written by Richard M. Stallman and David MacKenzie.
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>>55298829
"purpose" is thinking in logic. The universe gives a shit about logic; it just likes stuff that it likes with a hole added for big banging.
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>>55298859
It's more about rationality than just plain logic.
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>>55298829
>grill holding a sing "killall"
Why do I always fall for borderline girls?
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What was the wget script to download all the girls?
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>>55298834
#itsjustlinux on suicide watch
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>>55298811
Github has no programs, only source-codes...
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>>55298588
How many of these are there?
I got about 100 of them with wget but it was taking so long that I canceled it.
Here's a mega: https://mega.nz/#!rpYzFBAT!CMmWEqdIGbA2wqXV8njTjXwjAicsonwfTwGvvMguy9g
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>>55299565
I tried it myself and I ended up just saving my favorite ones. I guess wget isn't the right thing here. Maybe curl and sed to parse the actual links for every page may do the job but I'm lazy.
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>>55299552
Quick tutorial:

- Install git.
- run: git clone <url>
- cd into directory
- if theres a config file: ./configure <flags>
- if not, just: make; sudo make install
- bonus points for debian based distros: install checkinstall (creates packages), then: make; sudo make checkinstall

tl;dr:
git clone <url>
cd <prog>
make; sudo make install
????
PROFIT

But I if it's just a shell or python or ruby or whatever script, just download it and chmod +x <script> it. That's all.

Hope it helped someone.
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>>55299764
Ok, it's actually not THAT easy. This way only works if the sauce ships a makefile.
For CMake and others there are different routines.
Some programs also ship autoconf scripts etc.
Rule over the thumb: Read the INSTALL file, it will tell you about the WHAT DO.
less INSTALL
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>>55299799
... and if the program doesn't ship any INSTALL, README, or requirements informations, tell the devel that he's a huge faggot. If he doesn't ship a LICENSE file, tell him to shoot himself while jumping of a high building.
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should I use sxhkd or xbindkeys?
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>>55299893
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1213693#p1213693
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>>55299947
> It isn't KISS (Guile, -k, -mk, ...).
granted
> The commands of the configuration file have to be surrounded by double quotes and don't support environment variables.
environment variables are supported (works on my machine)
> There are two mechanisms for reloading the configuration file: none of them works.
killall -HUP xbindkeys
just works (on my machine)
> Implicit modifier names ('alt', 'super', ...) are not supported.
Alt is supported aswell as Mod4 (Super) on my machine(TM)

>>55299893
sxhkd is KISS; only hotkeys, nothing more, nothing less
xbindkeys has additional features for mouseclicks and SCHEME (Guile) style bindings and macros

Choose your poison.
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Okay lads, I have yet to find a good tutorial on how to create a bootable debian usb. I have a thinkpad t510 with 4gb of ram, and I read that installing debian would be a better option than installing ubuntu or mint. Would any you be kind enough to show me a tutorial on how to create a bootable debian usb through windows? Any installation tips would be greatly appreciated too. Thanks in advance.
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>>55299995
Also, is this a reliable way of installing it?
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
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>>55299995
Basically just d if=debian-live.iso of=usb-stick

You're currently on Windows?
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>>55300039
dd*
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>>55300039
Yes I am currently in windows. Is there a way to install debian without an internet connection? It would be a better way to install it on my thinkpad.
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http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-cleaning.html
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>>55300157
>without an internet connection
why? missing free drivers? missing ethernet?
if you have any normal computer go with http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso
if you have a computer that needs nonfree wifi drivers go with http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.5.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso
if you are sure you won't get an internet connection for some reason but don't need nonfree drivers go with any of those: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/
if you somehow don't have a connection and need nonfree drivers go with any of those: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.5.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/

i suggest Gnome3 or xfce for starters, xfce was my first DE in the GNU/Linux world.
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>>55300157
>>55300248
to add to this, win32diskimager is the best way to make a debian live medium on windows from what i remember, so go with that, it is fairly straightforward.
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>>55299764
>sudo make checkinstall
sudo checkinstall
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So I've been using Ubuntu for a year and I think I'm save enough for Debian. Some questions:

What to use? Testing? Unstable? I've been using LTS version of Ubuntu and I'm pretty sick of outdated packages (newfriends, please don't fall for the LTS meme).

Also, how to install testing or unstable? I can only find stable images.
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>>55300279
Ayy, sorry, you're right.
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Reminder we have two threads on /t/ - Torrents

One about ported videogames
>>>/t/707928
>>>/t/707928

And one on tutorial videos for system administration and IT
>>>/t/713097
>>>/t/713097

Also check the list of open source games
https://ghostbin.com/paste/z74bj/raw
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>>55298948
Fucking around with gimp.
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>>55300286
>What to use?
if you don't want stable and got a bit of experience, i would suggest unstable but it is up to you.
>Also, how to install testing or unstable?
you install stable minimally (no DE or other stuff you do not need), change your /etc/apt/sources.list to testing, upgrade, reboot, then if you need unstable/sid you do the same again but with sid instead of testing.
i highly recommen (please do it, otherwise you will have a bad time) to read the corresponding wiki pages for the releases carefully and read the don'tbreakdebian article.
here are a few links:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable
https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
also make sure to either only use aptitude or only apt-get, mixing them will cause problems, i personally prefer aptitude.
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>>55300343
Thank you very much, kind brosep.
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>>55300248
>>55300261
Thanks familia, I really do appreciate the help. So do I just extract it to the usb? Then, when I boot it on the thinkpad, will it give me the option to choose between gnome3 or xfce? I know, I know, retarded questions. I am pretty new in the linux world. (I want it mainly to learn C and to learn bash/terminal).
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>>55300286
what's wrong with ubungu?

after being on and off loonix for a decade, ended up with ubuntu on laptop, and fedora on desktop.

i guess i'm pretty static with what i use, so i'm fine with older packages. snaps flatpaks and all that will probably fix that in the coming year/s.
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>>55300411
>So do I just extract it to the usb?
more or less, you write it to the usb, the tool you should use to do so is win32diskimager (i think that is what is recommended in the installation manual: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en )
sorry for the sourceforge link: https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/
on the netinstall isos (the ones that are small) it will show you a screen where you can choose them, for the live ones you need to choose the right iso.
i wish you fun and the least amount of frustration possible.
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>>55300432
* I don't like Canonicals philosopy (friendship with Micro & Soft, shipping spyware, etc)
* I already found my favorite programs and don't want to use a DE anymore
* My goal is a system with only free software. I'm just a noob and not secure enough for libreboot and anything, but I want to get to my goal as close at possible

tl;dr Ubuntu made me learn alot, but it simply doesn't fit my needs anymore
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>>55300499
well fair enough.
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>>55300499
The same happened to me, I learned a lot and now I jump to a non DE machine.

Will try Devuan for a few days because I support their init independence but I plan on using a source based distro to troubleshoot my for a libre option.
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>>55300499
to the spyware thing, first off, I don't want to defend Canonical, but actually, the requests go to ubuntu servers, then to amazon, back to ubuntu servers and back to the user
basically, it's the same spying mechanism as when you apt-get update, since it's contacting the same servers
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182
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>>55300612
I add to your comment the fact fact that Canonical got rekt by Micro on purpose. Days before the launch of Ubuntu 16.04, Micro announced the partnership with Canonical.

It was an obvious marketing stunt to hamper Ubuntu.
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>>55300633
>>55300612
I'm just waiting for the day when M$ buys Canoncial.
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Can I keep multiple [Units] in a single .service file in systemd? I have a number of scripts that I would like to keep in one place and start all at once for portability.
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>>55294167
>if you want a bit of compression, consider making the backup drive btrfs with zlib compression enabled
Meaning all files are automatically compressed due to btrfs features? That sounds pretty neat. I might try it, but I'd have to clear a hard drive for space. I'm practically full.
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>>55300612
>it's the same spying mechanism as when you apt-get update
Wait, what?
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>>55300660
>compression
Reminds me of something.
What's the best compression method for archives?
I'm currently using this script:
mktxz () 
{
XZ_OPT=-9 tar cvJf "${1%%/}.txz" "$1"
}

did I do good or is there a way to level up?
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>>55300684
give lrzip a shot
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Hey guys, I want to share something about how to remote control mpv without socat or anything else. Why? Because I use mpv as music player. That's all.

How it works: mpv supports FIFO!

- create a named pipe:
mkfifo /path/mpv-fifo
- start mpv with:
mpv --input-file="/path/mpv-fifo" <file>
- Then you can send all commands you'd normally use in your input.conf to the pipe like this:
printf '%s\n' "cycle pause" > /path/mpv-fifo

Pretty comfy for creating scripts/functions whatever. Only downside: You don't get returns.

Hope someone finds this useful.
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>>55300757
Will do, ty.
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>>55300608
you could just install debian without systemd. just make sure to take part in the popularity contest so they see your choice.
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Can someone explain what's bad about systemd? Not trolling or baiting.
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>>55300871
here we go again
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What have you bought on Steam Sales flt?
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>>55300884
Dude, I'm serious. I know the Unix philosophy argument, but except that, I don't know about any flaws.
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>>55300871
it does a lot of things, some would argue too many things

done
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>>55300904
the "muh UNIX philosopy" argument is invalid anyway, GNU's not UNIX, if people want UNIX, show them the door to macOS
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>>55300660
yes, btrfs supports transparent lzo or zlib compression, meaning the data appears as normal, but is stored on the disk in compressed form
it will skip compressing incompressible data, so you don't need to worry about wasting resources
if you don't know which to pick;
lzo: really fast, but weaker compression, use it on actively used disks, fast disks (like ssds), or slow cpus
zlib: what gzip uses, not as fast, but better compression, for less active disks, slower disks (like flash drives), or faster cpus
using lzo on a modern cpu with consumer hdds is practically free, the hdd won't read/write fast enough to really tax the cpu when doing compression/decompression

if you're curious how fast lzo is, try compression a file you have, for example;
% lzop < *.mkv | pv > /dev/null
339MiB 0:00:01 [ 186MiB/s] [ <=> ]
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>>55298588
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Im gonna build a gaming pc and dont wanna pay 100 dollars on win so im gonna install mint, my question is if i should expect or now about any problems that i will have with gaming on linux? Thanks
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>>55300960
>not sure if bait or statement
saved :^)
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>>55300961
Type your post with proper punctuation and I might answer you seriously.
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>>55300960
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html
Youre welcome.

(/r/ing pasta?!)
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>>55300997
What issues will i run into when using mint/linux for gaming?
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>>55300907

>i get all my knowledge from meme g posts

If you don't know, at least stop spreading cringe-worthy misinformation.
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>>55301142
Close enough, but I'll help anyways.
First off, I'd recommend a Debian based distro, mainly any of the buntus since Steam OS is based on those. If you want it to look like mint, then all you have to do is download cinnamon through the software repositories and be done with it.
Now for the facts:
1) You won't be able to run all of your games. I don't play that much, but out of the 44 steam games, about 12 of them are playable natively on Linux.
2) There are ways to run Windows games on Linux through Wine, but it's not perfect.
3) AMD drivers are pretty shit on Linux. They're definitely trying with AMDGPU and AMDGPU Pro, but it's not there yet. Nvidia proprietary drivers are the way to go.
3a) Despite the last claim, the Nvidia drivers will probably give you some problems.
I think that's about it. I'd say to get familiar with the command line, it will help you on the long-run.
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>>55301217
>muh binary logs
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Hello /fglt/! I recently installed ubuntu 16.04, and it is great! One small problem, my cpu is emitting a high pitched whine when it seems to idle, which it does not emit on my W10 install. Furthermore, the whine goes away when I move my mouse.

Do any of you experience this whine? Is this just something I will have to deal with? Would installing another distro help?
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>>55301365
What's your cpu usage?
Check by typing htop into your terminal and hitting enter
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>>55301249
>of the buntus since Steam OS is based on those
actually it is based on debian
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>>55301365
>whine
could be that your refresh rate is not limited, try limiting it system wide to your monitors refresh rate.
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>>55301365
I get the same whine in Windows when I'm playing some game and the FPS far exceeds my monitor's refresh rate (Vsync not enabled), so it could be that in Ubuntu your GPU's (integrated or dedicated, dunno) refresh rate isn't limited by your monitor's, like >>55301414 said.

Go to your terminal and type sudo apt-get install screenfetch , say yes if they ask you you're sure. Then when done type screenfetch and post what it says under GPU
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>>55301456
>>Go to your terminal and type sudo apt-get install screenfetch , say yes if they ask you you're sure. Then when done type screenfetch and post what it says under GPU
next time tell him about inxi -F, it gives more info and isn't ricershit.
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Manjaro or Antergos on a laptop? Want to give something other than Xubuntu a shot.
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>>55301493
I didn't know about inxi -F, so at least thank you for teaching me via proxy, friend
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>>55301142
With using Linux Mint, you will get a broken system that looks nice for the eye. Mint's philosophy is about "stability", means: your system will be stable, but not secure, not updated and may break if you enable the blacklisted updates manually.

>for gaming
There's NO DISTRO THAT IS BETTER FOR GAMING
Literally. Really. Actually.
All distros work the same way, the only difference is the packaging system and the base install.

All distros will give you the EXACT SAME results in using native linux games or WINE emulation.

Don't use Mint. It's a nice idea for showing off Cinnamon, but nothing more. I'd even suggest installing Cuckonical's Ubuntu instead.
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>>55301380
Whine went away went I booted up gnome screenshot, and now"gvfsd-smb-browse" is sitting at 24% of %CPU load.

Just having mozilla open did not have this process running. Is this normal to browse at such a load? Compiz was taking 30% last night, but I managed to tweak the settings and is sitting at 1%
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>>55301543
They also have different update cycles, so you might have a problem on mint that is solved everywhere else.
But you are correct
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>>55301548
show the processes tab instead...
I can't tell from this.
But no, it is not normal.
I have a five year old laptop and it idles at 0%
But the system monitor might use a lot of resources on your system
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>>55300797
>tfw no (You)'s
Give me a challenge, I really need a (Thank you) today.
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>>55301581
Yes good call.
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I'm a complete noob to Linux but I want to be a 1337 hacker and have a riced out desktop. What do I do?
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>>55301543
Sorry if im asking atupid questions but i have close to 0 knowledge on linux. What other distro is there that looks windows-esque but is "better"? Thanks
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>>55301456
I have a gtx 960
>>55301493
Ricershit?
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>>55301617
Ricing is easy, get a wallpaper and customize all your programs matching the walls color scheme.

>>55301626
Ubuntu Mate, Xubuntu, any distro with a Cinnamon, Mate, Xfeces spin.
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>>55301616
the process is related to your file browser.
According to
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1421580
it might be a problem with a config file that causes it to never quit.
Try renaming it and see if that works. (then you can rename it back and see if you can intentionally break stuff)
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If I found a vulnerability in VLC, should I bother reporting it or just release a kit for it and wait for it to get patched?
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>>55301639
Yes, but what matters is we know it's being detected as a 960. That's why I asked you to show us that
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>>55301397
I meant to type this. Whoops.
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>>55301616
another note:
When you see 25% cpu usage on a quad core machine, it is usually a single process that is stuck in a loop.
Most applications is not designed that way, so it is usually a configuration that is gone wrong.
The linux community is not filled with people who don't notice these things if it was intentional.

But if you can fix/break it, go and fill a bug report with your config file that breaks it.
It is useful to the developers as they can possible replicate it and fix it.
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How do I resist the urge to ask people who are having trouble with one distro to just switch to Debian so I can help them?

Is the solution to just git gud and transcend all distros and be able to help anybody regardless of what they're running?
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>>55301681
Not sure how I would limit my refresh rate on ubuntu.
>>55301657
Not sure how to rename, but thanks for the link!

tyty /fglt/, i am not a complete noob, but still very noob.
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>>55301705
Depends a lot on what the problem is.
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>>55301726
on the terminal you use
 mv oldname newname
.
In your file manager you just press f2.
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>>55301610
that was pretty cool but since i use cmus i have no need for it. i was interested in using mpv as an image viewer, do you have any idea how to achieve this? it would be awesome to be able to see images on the web through mpv and have them there until i select the next one or close it.
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>>55301705
>Is the solution to just git gud and transcend all distros and be able to help anybody regardless of what they're running?
yes, unless the problem is actually distro-specific (which is quite rare)
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>>55301741
mpv --pause img.jpg
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>>55301763
well, that works but can i select this to be this way by default for certain file types? or add it to my right click menu in firefox with open with or anything similar? thanks
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>>55301456
>Go to your terminal and type sudo apt-get install screenfetch , say yes if they ask you you're sure. Then when done type screenfetch and post what it says under GPU

>this is the new /g/
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>>55301790
Yes, hi
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>>55301741
Yes! Finally something I can contribute.

Paste into your mpv.conf:
[media.image]
pause

[extension.bmp]
profile="media.image"

[extension.jpg]
profile="media.image"

[extension.png]
profile="media.image"

[media.animation]
loop-file="inf"

[extension.gif]
profile="media.animation"

[extension.webm]
profile="media.animation"


Additionally some input.conf binds for zooming:
CTRL+0           cycle video-unscaled
CTRL++ add video-zoom +0.1
CTRL+- add video-zoom -0.1

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>>55301790
I have seen people use 5 post to describe how they should tell what graphics card they use.
This is at least efficient
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>>55301800
this is literally the worst advice I've ever seen on /g/
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>>55301842
I'm sorry
Hi
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>>55301829
this is awesome, thanks a lot.
>>55301842
i have seen worse.
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>>55301829
Cool. Maybe I should make a script that thats the url of a thread and then shows the images in mpv, either with a inteval or skip on a key...
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>>55300797
>printf '%s\n' "cycle pause"
I'm pretty sure this is equivalent to
echo cycle pause
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>>55301853
Thanks for helping dude, but I had installed nvidia drivers last night. If i hadn't you would have been helpful in pointing that out.
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>>55301873
Ofc you can use echo, printf is just better scripting practice since printf is better for portability and preventing variable vulnerables.
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>>55301738
Found https://itsfoss.com/fix-gvfsd-smb-high-cpu-ubuntu/ Going to lunch and will check it out later.
Thanks /fglt/!!!
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What is the distro that most closely resembles windows?
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>>55301920
My cpu whine reappeared after killing the looping gvfsd program! I will check this thread later if anybody posts with an idea.
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>>55301944
eOS
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Is it normal for debian to take so long to write itself on a usb drive? I have been writing it for 40 minutes and its barely on 28 percent. Is that good or bad?
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>>55302024
you have a shit flash drive, congrats on not reviewing benchmarks before making a tech purchase
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>>55302024
Some usb drives are just awful.
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>>55302048
>>55302057
I just had a 32 gb usb drive laying around, and said "oh what the hell" and used it. I know better now, next time, I will get a external hard drive.
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>>55301944
ChaletOS
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How do I do a static OpenSSH compile? I want a binary to stick in my initramfs.
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>>55302024
if you're using dd, remember to set a larger block size
the default of 512 bytes is too small for flash media, and you'll just cause write amplification
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Is using target-prim=bt.2020 with mpv regardless of monitor retarded? I just like the way the colors look better.

Pic related is using bt.2020
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>>55302213
Pic related is default.
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>>55302213
>>55302239
If you ask me - I prefer keybinds to adjust my shit manually and leave the defaults to default, that way I can see by default how the movie was ripped and if needed, I fix stuff I don't like.
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I'm just leaving this here:
https://paste.teknik.io/Raw/2673
tl;dc: Lua based audio equalizer for mpv
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Can someone recommend me a good IME for moonrunes?
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>>55302526
>IME
please define
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>>55302536
Bitmap rock'n roll:
Wenquanyi Bitmap Song: http://wenq.org/wqy2/index.cgi?action=browse&id=Home&lang=en
Gay ass ugly true type:
https://www.google.com/get/noto/

Also font pasta, just because:

> Font pasta:

General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts

Huge list of font resources:
https://github.com/brabadu/awesome-fonts

List of monospaced fonts for programming:
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface

List of monospaced bitmap fonts for programming:
https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts

You may also need to enable bitmap fonts and rebuild the font cache:
rm -v /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
ln -s ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf .
fc-cache -v -f


Fonts patched with shitloads of icon glyphs:
https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts

The Ultimate Oldschool PC Font Pack:
http://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/

Premade fontconfigs:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality

Configure your own fontconfig:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration

Read the documentation:
file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
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>>55302594
>>55302526
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>>55302536
>Input method editor, a program or operating system component that allows computer users to enter characters and symbols not found on their keyboard
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Is there a way to connect to #flt anonymously?
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>>55302633
Seconded.
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>>55302633
thirded
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>>55302633
>>55302657
>>55303025
freenet supported Tor back in the days through a hidden service, but that service is closed doe to "abuse", so: nope
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Guys, what's wrong with grub hidden menu? I have only arch installed and I don't have os prober. Doesn't it suppose to be working if there is no other system is installed?
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>>55303235
yes.
what is the problem?
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To anyone using i3: level up to bspwm. It's amazing. You can control inner and outter gaps by keybinds and shit's much more natural.
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>>55302633
>>55302657
>>55303025
>>55303071

What do you mean it's closed? Just use tor like you always use tor - as a proxy.

https://buildthesys.wordpress.com/2013/09/15/how-tu-use-weechat-with-tor/
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>>55303283
Old news. All you get it a ban.
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Using Xubuntu.
I used to have a volume control icon in the panel at the top of the screen and now it's gone. As far as I know it's part of the indicator plugin but removing that from the panel and then adding it again manually did not restore it. Any ideas?

Top is the panel now.
Bottom is what it used to be like before installing the CPU / memory monitor. I installed it a month or more ago, but the volume icon only vanished this week.

Could killing the pulseaudio process via top have done this? It's running right now as it should be (automatically started).
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So after the writing process stops. I have to unplug the usb drive, and then boot it from the thinkpad correct?
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>>55303276
The problem is that it isn't works. I have set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT to 0. So now I must be able to open grub menu by holding shift while startup. But it continues to lo
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This thread has potential, please cont: >>55303425
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>>55303544
Shit.
But it continues to load. What am I missing?
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lemonbar:

Shell scripts or just parsing conky output?
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>>55303686
Depends on usage, If you're just going to display time and shit, use shell scripts, if you want more, use fifo or conky.
time script.sh

is a good way to know if shit X is faster than shit Y
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Fresh install of Fedora 24 workstation this is the login screen. I can drop down to tty and have already ran updates. What do?
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>>55304056
That's some nice glitch art buddy.
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>>55304056
nvidia gpu?
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>>55303544
does it work when the timeout is 1?
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They updated the gtk2 version of Adwaita.
It actually looks good and consistent with GTK3.

Fucking finally. Just updated to F24 and the mate themes are crazy broken.
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>>55304164
ati [spoiler]x1400[/spoiler]

I was able to log in by hitting enter and putting in my password the actual desktop seems to work it just seems to be a problem with gdm
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>>55304237
>ati [spoiler]x1400[/spoiler]
shiz man, i have almost as agey ati card and it werkz just fine on f24.

try lightdm instead of gdm
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>>55304173
Nope. I have just set it to 5 to check. There is no any countdown.
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>>55304250
idk it worked when I tried out opensuse tumbleweed a month or so ago... I think I will just try a different DE gnome seems to be slow on this machine anyway
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>>55304210

There's no "they". Some stepped up to maintain it I believe.

It's impossible to make GTK+2 themes completely consistent with GTK+3 themes because gtkrc sucks huge donkey balls.
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>>55304056
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Okay lads, I think I am at my first stepping stone. I wrote debian on a usb, chose to boot from the usb on the bios of my t510. But now it is isnt booting. What do?
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>>55304346
check sha on iso
rewrite iso to usb using rufus
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>>55304267
maybe set
GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT
after you have set GRUB_TIMEOUT
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>>55304376
Wait, did you ask me about usual timeout? I was talking about hidden. Ok, let me try your solution.
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>>55304307
>Some stepped up to maintain it I believe.
Praise to him then
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any minimal ubuntu/debian distro?
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>>55304475

Ubuntu/Debian. There's something called the minimal/net installer.
It's not like you're going to install it now anyway. You're asking hit-and-run questions which have been asked thousands of times and you don't even know what you want to ask or how to ask a proper question.
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>>55304525
yeah, except i have no ethernet for minimal ubuntu
i might try debian net installer
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>finally find a somewhat decent GTK2/3 theme
>make Qt programs use the GTK style
>it looks horrible
>try to make Qt programs use GTK file dialogs instead of the native Qt one
>programs segfault, because you can't get the GTK widget style together with the other GTK settings (font, dialog windows, icons)

If only people made proper Qt themes...
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>>55304550

How are you posting on the internet now without an internet connection?
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>>55304376
Nope. Did not work.
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>>55304551
>using graphical interfaces
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>>55304570
what i meant was i only have wifi on the desktop i want to run linux on
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Sometimes my wired connection doesn't work after startup with NetworkManager. All I have to do is unplug and plug the ethernet cable again to make it work.

Here's the log when it doesn't:
http://pastebin.com/DvPC4DYP

Log after unplugging and plugging in:
http://pastebin.com/M2hGpb4g

Can anyone spot any interesting lines to investigate further?
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>>55304602

Says the idiot posting on a website using a GUI web browser.
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>>55304627
>not using wget
shiggy
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>>55304604

Move the desktop to the router during the install.
Download the drivers for your WLAN device and install it to get a wireless connection during installation.
Use your mobile phone for tethering.

Pick one.
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>>55304627
>w3m
>cookies.txt + imagemagick for captchas
Try again, newfriend.
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why would anyone use Manjaro over Antergos? Besides the fact that Cnchi is garbage
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>>55304670

Yes, you're totally browsing and posting like that.
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>>55304662
how do you run custom drivers during ubuntu minimal install?
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>>55304670
>w3m
enjoy your buggy abandonware. Hope you're not on KDE
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>>55304670
captcha requires js anon and I don't think w3m has even rudimentary support for it
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I use an ntfs disk to share between linux and windows. Occasionally some things get corrupted, like if I unmount too quickly, but it's rare.

Recently though I'd been moving around and deleting lots of large files, and I noticed I was losing space for no reason.

So I booted into windows, ran chkdsk, and later found it threw a lot of stuff (about 40gb worth) into a hidden folder. Got rid of everything and started over, and it's all normal again.

Do ntfs drivers on linux just suck, or do you guys have any tips to avoid this in the future?
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>>55298588
heya, i had openSUSE installed an a hard disk parallel to Windows. Now I'd like to install Xubuntu instead of openSUSE on that partition.
I tried installing it by selecting in the the partion in question in Xubuntu's installer, but now grub doesn't list it. There is still an openSUSE entry but it wont boot.
Can anyone help me to get it working? maybe i need to edit the grub-config or something?
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>>55304627
Not being rude, but srsly, loonix GUI "apps" are made for handholding newfriends. Nothing more, nothing less. Every GUI program will give you comfy buttons and less comfy functionality. Once you discovered it, you'll start loving the terminal and the simplicity running a simple command that does ecaxtly what you want instead of blindly clicking random bottons.

Stop being a guifag bro. You may think cli is 70s, but actually it's the constant new shit.
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>>55304822
.Trash folder?
It's exactly what's the name describes.

If you want to omit .Trash just use Shift+Del
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>>55304743

You download the non-free firmware and the driver's package and install it with dpkg.
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>>55304829
Not him but

>Not being rude
You're not rude, just retarded.
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>>55298588
hello i was wondering how do i install tox on raspbian i entered the debian install instruction i get tpye wget is not known when i sudo apt-get update
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>>55304829

You're an idiot and a pretentious child who probably "discovered" command line utilities recently and thinks he's some kind of superior ubermensch for using them.
Only an idiot doesn't understand that there's no "better". There are certain tools which work better with command line interfaces and some work better with graphical user interfaces.
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>>55304853
>>You're not rude, just retarded.
Elaborate.
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>>55304878

Not him, but a normal person would have stopped reading your inane post when you used "comfy" to describe software.
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>>55304606
Line 32:
state change: unmanaged -> unavailable (reason 'managed')

looks like the reason to me. Let us know what you find out, I'm very interested
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>>55304877
a) It's called Ãœbermensch
b) follow your leader
c) GUI is what I call retard-friendly, CLI what I actually call user-friendly. Why? Because the functionality is friendly to the user and doesn't hide anything a user could be "scared" of.
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>>55304843
Nah, I mean the chkdsk output folder. Found.000

Let me elaborate. (This is before I ran chkdsk.) I had about 200gb of files. But it was telling me well over 200gb was being used.

There must have been something wrong with the filesystem itself, because even linux was telling me I had more files than I actually had.

So after running chkdsk, deleting all the garbage, then just deleting everything and starting fresh. Now the used space numbers are normal and match my content.

It's weird.
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>>55304911
>normal persons
Nobody who decides to use GNU plus Linux is a normal person.
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>>55304911
>>55304966
#rekt by ass rhetoric, kek

cli fanatic here, searching for an irc client
pros / cons on weechat and irssi? or did I miss something? not sure what to choose, please help
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>>55304966
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>>55304935

That's what I suspected as well, but I can't find any information about it. It's mentioned on a bunch of results, but mostly because it's always in the logs.
Looks like I'll just have to get up and keep unplugging it every once in a while.
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>>55305127
https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager#Enabling_Interface_Management
there is some information about managed and unmanaged interfaces, especially this:
>NetworkManager will only handle interfaces not declared in /etc/network/interfaces
maybe that's the problem? Anyway, happy hunting
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>upgrade to unstable "cutting-edge" distro
>1GB of upgrades every day
I didn't ask for this.
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>>55305088
Srsly nigger. I've no time or energy for shitposting the next 200 post about this topic, nor may have anyone else in this thread, so how about you take your bait and shove it up your ass and make a funny sandwitch with the already pounding nsa dick?
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>>55305219
I'm not that guy, don't worry. My gif did make him shut up though..
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>>55305088
>2/10 are dumb enough to use windows
kek
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So this thinkpad I have really isn't fast enough to effectively run the latest slackware so I'm looking for something ultra light weight. There's also no disk drives and I don't have any flash drives handy. Is there a way to install another distro from within this and then boot into that distro and then delete this install?
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ubuntu gnome or unity?
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>>55305698
None.
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>>55305733
>le install gentoo
what do you recommend then?
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>>55305767
Mate, Cinnamon, Openbox.
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>>55305767
CDE, Windowmaker
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I have two patches in the build dir, using patch -Np0 < patch.patch, fails to patch.What am i missing?
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>>55305787
>mate
it's shit
>cinnamon
tried it not much of a fan
>openbox
i'm moving away from bspwm for something that's natively a bit more feature rich for a retard like myself
>>55305812
>b9ing this hard
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>>55305297
10/10, no idea why my brain didn't came up with this simple bait derail.
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>>55305845
Literally isn't bait. Those are both solid choices. GNUStep as a general environment keeps getting more and more features, it's almost on par with GNOME at this point. And CDE while buggy and not supported is one of the nicest interfaces I've ever used.

The longer I stay here the more I realize I don't belong here.
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>>55305849
Magic of /g/. Every single post here is basically bait. Stay some weeks and you're in NLP godmode.
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>>55305877
And like that another wizard gets his wings. Fly off to some obscure forum or BBS and live in peace forever.
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Okay boyz. Another stepping stone: "An installation step failed. YOu can try to run the failing item again from the menu, etc" The failing step is: Select and install software. I am booting it through a usb drive. I am installing debian 8 btw. What should I do? Thanks in advance.
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Is it possible, for a noob, to install gentoo with handholing? Following the guide and understanding everything? I succsessfully installed Arch by following the beginner guide and I'm curious if gentoo really is "more" than just following a guide.
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When I tried searching for a file on Dolphin, I get the message "Invalid protocol". Am I doomed to never conveniently find my files?
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anyone use redshift?
how do i make redshift more flu.x like? it was more yellowish.
i set the temp to 3000.
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>>55306223
Usually you need experience, since Gentoo is all about USE flags. Everything you install (should be) customized, so it makes no sense to use Gentoo when you don't know if you want to compile program X with, or without feature Y.
Ofc there are clever people with fast brains and if you're one of those, go ahead, read the guide and actually install gentoo. Good luck.
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Today...
I fucked up.
I was running Trisquel on a ASUS P701 (4GB soldered SSD + a 16GB SD card)
I mounted /, swap and boot to the 4GB SSD and left /home to the 16GB SD card
I was really annoyed on how slow icecat was running even tho I could use midori
I was using Openbox so I decided to install the lxsession packages and remove the gnome session (login screen) by removing some gnome packages because the gnome login screen wasn't being scaled to my monitor (I dissassembled the notebook and removed the mic, the webcam and keyboard because the keyboard is broken and I'm using this netbook as a desktop now.
I tried messing around with Xorg.config but nothing changed
When I changed the background with feh it didn't scale up to the monitor size it
But it did work when I used nitrogen to do so.
However, when I rebooted nitrogen and feh backgrounds are reset to the default openbox background

I just want to know how to install trisquel with openbox without the gnome login screen ;-;
or a way to scale it to the size of my monitor instead of the size of the netbook's screen.
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>>55306307
man xrandr
if your resolution isn't already available, just create it and - xrandr it.

No login screen? Uninstall your DM and use xinit instead. There's a guide on the Arch wiki.
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If I understood this meme of linux doesn't have a good file picker on firefox, the issue is with GTK+, but programs using Qt (so the KDE file picker) works fine.
Is there a solution when you're using GTK+ ? I'm on cinnamon currently, and that would be great if this issue could be solved easily. (I'm on debian if that matter)
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>>55306792
gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view
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>>55306303
edit: the commenter guy's comment helped.
https://badlinuxadvice.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/how-to-setup-redshift-to-be-like-f-lux/
i had to make it 2400 and it's all ogre now. sageru.
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Am I not supposed to be able to extract .rars by default? If so, what package do I install?
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>>55306303
holy shit, never used lat and lon, always typed them out like a pleb.

thanks anon
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>>55307813
I'm sorry.
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I'm wondering if it's possible to stream only the sound coming from the application with OBS.

Has anyone been able to do this?
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>enp0s31f6
>this is standard for most distros now
Nice OS, retards.
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>>55308143
(((You)))
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>>55308166
>enp0s3r2d2c3p0 is an acceptable name for a network interface
I guess it's fine if you just use a gooey for everything. :^)
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>>55308219
>baiting your own bait
Dude...
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>>55308106
Do you mean game sound?
Or desktop sound?
Or desktop sound + mic?
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>>55308515
The options i have by default is desktop sound and mic.

But i want to be able to just stream single applications. Like 'game' + mpd for example.
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>>55308603
So game + 'what i hear'? or just game + this specific program only.

You should me able to do this with jack.Creating virtual lines so you could send mpd to line 3 while line 1 is your game and 2 is your system sounds
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>>55308106
pavucontrol
Adjust volume per application.
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>>55308647
This is what i woud do on Windows. I've created virtual lines there before.

But i have no idea how to do this with Pulseaudio.
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>>55308683
pavucontrol is not a mixer
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>>55308683
I want to be able to hear stuff that i dont broadcast.
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>>55308143
typing is pretty hard
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>>55308698
lol
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>>55308785
Show me were to create new monitors of devices that do not exist,because pulse does not have this ability.
This is why jack is a thing and never got implemented in to pulse
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We have a (trial) thread on /vg/
>>>/vg/146913224
>>>/vg/146913224
>>>/vg/146913224

Come and say hi.
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Hi guys. How come I am missing "iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode" from the debian dvd? Where can I get it? is it vital?
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>>55309610
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/kernel/firmware-iwlwifi

Its wifi drivers you can download the deb from here and put it on a usb drive and the install media will detect it
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>>55309650
Thanks familia. I am currenly on the "select and install software" step. Should I stop it and download these drivers? or should I keep going without them?
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>>55309700
depends if you need them you can always install them after
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>>55309747
Oh I need them, but I have a ethernet cable. So if it lets me install it later then awesome. Thanks for the help man.
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>>55309773
Yeah just download the .deb and install it with sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
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>>55309803
oh cool man. Thanks a bunch for the help. Hopefully the installation goes smoothly and I am able to do it.
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Everytime I boot into Ubuntu I get an error report. Pic related is some of the info, anyone have any ideas what to do. I don't know how to read Ubuntu error reports
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>>55310315
And I forgot the image.
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>>55301543
>but not secure

Why do people worry about security so much? Have any of you ever had any problems on any distro?
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Okay retarded question incoming. When I try to download a iwlwifi .deb, the website "strongly recommends me" to download a package manager like aptitude and synaptic. Should I download either? or Should I just do it manually? Also how do I download a .deb file. (I know, I know, retard alert, first time linux user).
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