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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", ultraportable
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
First for becwuaz.
This is what five years of Lenovo does to a Thinkpad.
>>55195905
>obscenely expensive mobile workstation
>general office use laptop
Hardly a good comparison.
>>55196106
>What is a T60 IPS
>>55196136
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-IBM-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T60.1294.0.html
>2000 eurobux for the 14" with base 1024x768 panel
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IBM-Thinkpad-T60p-UXGA-Notebook.4404.0.html
>3500 eurobux for the 1400x1050 IPS display
T420 when new was around 1500 eurobux for a nice config
>>55196188
Fuck money, you were given an ips option on your business grade notebook years ago, and they took it away.
I don't know anything about computers. Can I transplant a new quad core CPU into an old X200 tablet?
I want a pen for my X220t that also has a pen for actual paper. Is there such a thing?
>>55196244
>Fuck money
If the demand isn't there from the customers (businesses, not faggots on /g/) then why would they bother?
Also, HP is way bigger in the workstation market that uses these color critical displays, that's why they are the only ones left on the market selling 10 bit IPS panels in their laptops
>>55196188
T series is supposed to be flagship. The T420 feels more like it belongs in the budget category with the E or L series.
>>55196306
Face it, laptops are now commodity items. Market is involved in to a race to the bottom for pricing.
>>55196245
>can I change my CPU
What a fucking tard. Enjoy poverty.
>>55196245
No. The X series have soldered CPUs, but even if it were socketed, you could only put in a Core 2 Quad at best, and then you'd probably burn your house down because the X200 cooling was not even designed for standard voltage dual cores, never mind higher voltage quad cores.
>>55196345
Thank you, friend.
Rate the seller and the lot plz you will be very helpful http://m.ebay.com/itm/121947046695?_mwBanner=1#rwid
can the t420's i5 support IOMMU / VT-D
Am I getting jewed lads?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=9SIA9PS48J2949
>>55196454
Well, does it?
> dmesg | grep -e DMAR -e IOMMU
> grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo
>>55196554
>Linux
>>55196624
I guess you could check Intel's ARK.
>>55196554
so I take it that if nothing shows up it's not supported?
>>55196546
Looks good. I dare any faggot to say otherwise.
>>55196554
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>>55196681
No highlighting, I guess? Try
#cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep vmx
>>55196730
>vmx
Is this my vt-d support? Because that was highlighted from the command earlier
>>55196675
Nothing showing up == not supported or not enabled in BIOS
>>55196746
VT-x. VT-d is a chipset feature.
>>55195905
Gookovo has no shame
they will slap the Thinkpad logo on any abortion these days
>>55196805
So vt-x but not vt-d? I don't have know the jargin and terminology and was hoping for a spoonfeed.
>>55196907
My T420 has a VT-d option in the BIOS. I assume that means it has it, but I've never bothered to try using it. It might require the Nvidia model, since I know you need two GPUs to use PCI-E passthrough.
>>55196925
alright, thanks
>>55196907
Here's the deal.
VT-x is a CPU-level support for virtualisation. If its flag (vmx) is set for your CPU, you're done here.
VT-d is Intel's I/O MMU implementation.
You will need:
- A chipset that supports VT-d. Chipset model for Intel are usually numbered [letter][digit][digit], e.g. Q77. Google yours to find out whether it supports VT-d.
- A BIOS that offers VT-d as a feature. Search around in your BIOS settings.
Additionally, if you want PCI(e)-passthrough, your card has to have the Function Level Reset (flr) feature.
>>55197015
yes and yes
the 2520m with the nvs 4200m has this
thank you very much
>55185823
>>55185771
>>55185837
>removing keys nobody uses
>more compact layout for easy access
Autistic I tell you.
>>55197145
>removing keys nobody uses
>Autistic I tell you.
You mean removing keys _you_ don't use.
Are the USB ports on the series 3 docking station (4337) always on? like, could I walk off with the thinkpad, but still charge my phone off the ports on the docking station?
>>55197145
> implying access to important function keys was improved by xx30+ keyboards
> what is XF86Back, XF86Forward
>>55196788
rip
I was hoping I could pass through my gpu so I don't have to boot into windows to play gta.
>>55197340
I don't know about that model but on Ultrabase 3 the USB are hot only when a ThinkPad is docked.
![x240-keyboard[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mw9d157.jpg "x240-keyboard[1].jpg")
>>55197145
How did they manage to fuck up X series keyboard so bad? Just look at this shit.
X230 was a bit inferior but after that it's just a complete clusterfuck
>Removal of independent volume and mute keys
>Removal of media keys
>Removed Insert and put it as Fn+End
Fucking disgusting
>>55197397
fuck me in my ass, man.
>>55197446
>no back and forth keys over the arrow keys
My shitposting would be hampered beyond belief.
>>55197446
if this is what I have to deal with if I want to upgrade from my T420, I might look into Dell or HP
>>55197515
Definitely. New *60 series look like fucking toys cheap bootleg versions of a real ThinkPad. Our only hope is the retro but I wouldn't be surprised if lelnovo fucked it up
>>55197515
They aren't any better. Dell held off the chiclet cancer longer, but they shit up their layout in the same generation as Lelnovo. HP always had a shit layout and they switched to chiclets earlier. Good keyboards in laptops are dead.
>>55197542
> No Back and Forward in arrow keys block, not even the PgUp and PgDown
> No indicator lights of any kind
> New style hinges for display
> Super expensive as it will be sold only to consumers
Why do they even bother with the "Retro" edition? It is nothing like the older models.
I guess Lenovo just wants to cash out by selling this to people who have never used a pre-2011 model but have bought into the idea that ThinkPads are awesome due to good reputation from earlier years.
>>55197542
Placing more hope in the X62.
>>55198002
That's not final, is it? They could easily fix some of the things you mentioned.
It looks pretty good to me. It looks like a Thinkpad. It has its flaws, but it's imperfect rather than an abomination.
x series users, how do you make your firefox compact? i download microfox but it looks like shit.
>inb4 wangblows
I'm thinking of buying an X220 with 8GB, 480GB SSD, i5 2520m for around $500. Is that a good price or am I retarded nigger?
>>55198168
kill yourself thats twice the amount you should pay
>>55198146
idk about wangblows, but I lower the dpi to around 80
Halp, /g/
I'm looking for a laptop for school use (not an architect, computer science, creative design, et al major), with the occasional Netflix viewing experience. I wrestled with several different models and brands and used history to deduct that I need something that can withstand my tardness for several years.
Requirements:
Budget: under $1000
My #1 issue while shopping has been finding a 15.6" display with decent battery life and a 1920x1080 IPS display. I don't mind "lugging" around a 5 lb laptop in my bookbag, if it means I can comfortably use side-by-side windows (research/netflix/skype + Word.exe). Touchscreen is unnecessary but wouldn't disqualify a model. Also, is the anti-glare function recommended? I'll be operating the laptop more during daylight hours, and I suffer from some moderate light sensitivity, if that matters.
I'd prefer a core i7 processor simply because I have a tendency to turn one tab into 50, while also running youtube or spotify for music, and I don't have a problem spending an extra buck or two for some unnecessary power.
Solid state drive, I don't plan on storing my 4TB animal rape porn library on the machine and I'd like to have a reasonable boot time for portability and practicality.
Preferably 8gb DDR4, I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
7+ hour battery life is a must, especially with my tendency to forget that things need to be charged.
tl;dr need a 15.6" laptop that can handle a drop every other day, Thinkpad or otherwise.
Thanks in advance for the help, /tpg/.
>>55198077
I truly hope you are right and that the Retro Edition will be a great one. Sadly I'm getting very pessimistic about the future prospects of Lenovo and how they are running the ThinkPad line.
I do know that I'm not the one to complain as I'm not driving the market for them. I'm just buying refurbished ones for the nice value/price ratio. Still very sad for the supply to dry up.
>>55198168
Are you buying two of them?
>>55198146
remove the title bar you fucking faggot
>>55198168
For 8 lels of RAM and 480 lels of SSD storage that's pretty good desu senpai.
>>55198168
Just buy this.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Laptop-Core-i7-2640M-2-8GHz-16GB-DDR3-256GB-SSD-Win-10-Pro-/252431262038?nav=SEARCH
Kind of a far cry, but has any of you ever seen a TransNote in action?
I'd love to have one of those, but like the w70Xds Thinkpads, they're one of a kind and super rare.
>>55198240
why? i need the buttons on the right and my tabs.
>>55197692
Honestly the keys themselves aren't bad. The keys are curved in, they're pretty much just the top surfaces of the classic keys with the sides cut off.
It's the layout that sucks ass. But it's definitely not chiclet shit, the travel distance is the same and the keys feel nice mechanically
It's basically a whole keyboard of the top two rows of the classic keyboard
>>55198309
>wants 480 gigs SSD
>KEK JUST BUY THIS 256 GIG MODEL xD
>>55198556
>Implying 480GB SSD justifies paying $500 for a 5yo machine.
>>55198556
You should just buy one without a drive or a crappy HDD and find a good deal on an SSD somewhere else.
I have $700 to spend on a Think pad what do?
>>55198709
W520 / W530 tricked the fuck out.
>>55195429
Where could I get a large Thinkpad branded/printed mouse mat/pad. Can't find ANYTHING anywhere. I know I could print one myself for cheap but I'd prefer something high quality premade.
Should I get the x230 or splurge on the x240?
>>55199299
If you need the 22nm refresh that is haswell, get it, but ivy bridge will do as its also a 22nm chip and is cheaper yet really good.
>ThinkpadRetro TimeTraveler! is released in 2017
>has all the specs you could possibly want
>keyboard is perfect
>costs $3000, but worth it for the ideal laptop
>even comes with a 5 year warranty
>somehow, every Thinkpad user's demands have been met
>after a few short days, it is discovered that even after switching from Windows 10, all your data is fed directly to the NSA anyway and there is literally no way to stop this from happening
>after two years, every battery stops working due to DRM, and official batteries start at $400
>after five years, the motherboard dies just as planned and the Thinkpad Retro TimeTraveler! 2(two)! is released, featuring an innovative touchscreen keyboard
I have the oportunity to buy my baby's first ThinkPad for R$600 (around $180) it's a T410 without HD and RAM. I5 1 gen and 1280x800 screen. It is worth it? I need a new notebook and I have some RAM sticks. So I'll only need to buy a new SSD.
>>55198146
Classic Theme Restorer, Tree Style Tab, taskbar moved to the left side of the screen.
>>55199261
Maybe this and use your own image?
www.inkedgaming.com/products/custom-gaming-pad
I have one of the 99c chinese ones but its just a normal sized mousepad.
>>55196265
Just ducktape a regular pen to your tablet pen.
Can't hold and gonna pull the trigger for a fhd x220 from taobao soon
>>55199534
Then Mr Rossmanns merchant ass gets your shekels to repair it.
we can't win.
>>55199948
how about getting an x230t instead?
>>55198347
What? you dont need the minimize, restore, and close buttons on your browser window. And if you only have 1 tab open I dont see why you need to see the title up top.
Never had a laptop, which model is good for programming?
>>55201188
T520 1080p is pretty tall on the screen.
>>55201341
Question, but since it may be a couple years old will it have any inconvineces? Or is it fine?
>>55201935
It's fine for coding, sandy bridge is plenty and tech hasnt marched on much to the point where even a core 2 duo isn't entirely worthless.
>>55198002
>No Back and Forward in arrow keys block, not even the PgUp and PgDown
Fun fact: truly retro thinkpads don't have them either
I can get a L460 for cheap from my job, and I wonder if a 1080 display, usb3 and more recent hardware overall would make it worth it over my x220. I fear the new keyboard, but since I haven't tried it I'm not sure. Any opinions?
>>55202334
>L anything
We've been through this. T, X, or W.
Or in the case of the P50 and P70, P series is okay too.
just bought a T420 and the vendor shipped it with Win10 installed and I cant get any drivers running. I'd just go with linux, but I bought this to use some work applications with so it's got to be at least win7. Is there win 7 driver support? I assumed there was when I bought it. Also I can't get any batteries to charge with the supplied charger. I bought an extra battery besides the one it shipped with and neither gain any charge when its plugged in. They just stay at their percentage until i unplug it and then they drain. The supplied charger was 65watts, is that the correct one or do I need a higher voltage one for the T420?
Arch Linux on my t420 is max comfy. Thinking about installing Gentoo
>>55202439
windows 7 will work, its what shipped on it. Sandy bridge is "legacy" now and doesnt have any w10 drivers, there should be a COA code under the battery, just find a legit iso and install.
65w chargers do work with t420s in general and i dont really know much about batteries to be of help here.
>>55197446
independent media buttons are a shitty meme. How does /tpg/ actually convince themselves they ever needed them?
>>55202192
They also didn't ever release a model (T, X, W) that had a touchpad but not the 6 key arrows block prior to this "retro" abomination.
>>55199986
don't need the touchscreen
What's /tpg/s opinion on the most useful ultrabay module?
Extra HDD?
Battery?
Optical?
Anus massager?
>>55202988
HDD
>>55202988
I'd get the 1TB HDD in the ultrabay, magnetic storage is still really good for guys like me who repeatedly write onto the drive.
>>55196345
Then explain why do the X220 and X230 feature 35W CPUs.
There are 2 types of thinkpad users.
1: just need some cheap shit to watch anime on.
2: actually do work on a reliable, mobile machine.
>>55203067
1b: Uses it as a cheap desktop for shitposting
>>55203016
The X220 and X230 are not the X200. The X200 only shipped with 25W CPUs.
>>55203269
Can confirm, even the 14 inch laptops with 35w core 2 duos can run pretty damn hot.
>>55196454
>>55197015
>>55196925
Could I limit my nvidia gpu of the t420 to a windows vm? Got a guide for this?
Thinkbros, where can I buy individual keys?
>>55203637
>windows 10
It's saddening how many people, even of 4chan, let Microsoft get away with such massive privacy invasions.
Fuck your keyboard.
>>55203670
Not me, build 7601 for life.
Whats the best model to grab for just web surfing and video that doesn't way a trillion tons that I can get cheaply off ebay
>>55203791
Just get a x220 for ~250 American
or settle down with a x200 for ~100 American
i5 versus C2D, if you can't discover their difference get the first
http://www3.lenovo.com/au/en/deals/current-offers/end-of-financial-year/E460-AU-C4a/p/20ETCTO1WWENAU9
Is this a bargain /tpg/?
>>55203670
Fuck off
The screen in my T60 is excellent, extremely consistent and sharp. However, it's very yellow-orange compared to my Dell IPS monitors.
I assume this is because of age, is it the panel itself or the ccfl backlight? Is there anything I can do about it? It would be sad to see such a high quality machine die of simple entropy.
>>55203950
They would have to pay me to use an e series.
>>55203994
There are kits to replace CCFL with LED for old X-series models which apparently fixes the yellowness. Sadly no edition for the T-series.
https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-kit.shtml
>>55204014
Why? I am new to thinkpads, everyone is recommending them and I need a new laptop. Considering these are roughly the specs I am after and this is just below my budget, what would suggest instead?
>>55204074
Get a used T420, youll be way happier and the laptop wont be a cheap plastic pos.
>>55204107
So the build quality is the fault to which you're referring? Or is there more reason to not get E460
>>55204125
The build quality is everything, you might as well buy a cheap toshiba satellite over an E460.
>>55204125
The mandatory cock sucking in the licensing information of the e series is another reason, but I guess that would be a point in its favour for you
Has anyone here replaced their T430 (Specifically T430!) with a T420?
I really want to do this mod, however my old T420 palmrest does not fit on the T430, despite the wiki saying otherwise. Seriously, they don't match up.
How have you done this? DId you do the alternative way, and trim the keyboard connections slightly? I really want to know.
>>55204215
I'm talking about the keyboard, but the typo seems obvious enough.
>>55203637
Just do the keyboard mod that let's you put in a X220 keyboard, trust me it's worth the effort
>>55204215
You have gotten me curious if a t430 palmrest (minus keyboard of course) would fit on a t420. it looks similar enough at a glance and i kind of like the angle a bit more than the curves of the 420's
>>55204359
The right hand of the palmrest is an entirely different shape. I don't know why the wiki says it fits. I might have to edit this myself but I'm waiting to hear from other anons. Maybe I'm missing something plain and stupid.
>>55204283
I was hoping on swapping the palmrest at the same time, as I don't have a dremel or sandpaper on me. It seems like this is the only option now however. I really miss the T420 keyboard. The keys feel better on the T430, I'll give it that, but the layout and delete, home, page up and down buttons really piss me off.
Is 220$ worth it for a used, stock T430 in a good condition?
>>55204895
Yes.
>>55204982
Would you consider it a bargain or just a fair price?
i want a t440 so badly :/
>>55205011
Where I'm from it's a steal, but I guess it's just a fair price.
>>55204895
Seems like a fair price to bargain depending on screen, memory, disk drive, processor and gpu.
how would I come about finding an X200 LED panel? don't mind if its 1280x800 or 1440x900, I can only find ones with CCFL backlights
Is an X201 with a 2.5ghz i5 dual core and 4gb of memory still a pretty good laptop for general use?
>>55205290
Yes, it's plenty.
>>55205290
I use my almost everyday it has 8GB works just fine
>>55200343
i don't always have only one tab open faggot.
>>55205313
Would it be worth it to install an SSD in one since it only supports SATA I?
>>55205319
Are you able to watch streaming HD video on it?
>>55205324
Yes, the low access latency of an SSD will make it boot fast, be snappy and even with SATA 2, transfer files very fast.
>>55205239
3210m i5 with 8 gigs of ram and shitty 160 gig harddrive. Don't know screen resolution but plan on switching out both the hard drive and panel
What are you using your x220 for? I want to get one for university (CS) but everyone is telling me the screen is too small.
>>55205239
Also in shitty nord fag country with ridiculous pricing on computers in general
>>55205559
Thicc girl, much like your X220, Anon.
>>55204895
>>55205522
>>55205561
Good deal for Nordic country. Especially if it has local keyboard and you like that.
Having a crap HDD might actually be better since then the seller might give it away at considerably lower price and you can pick the SSD that fits your needs.
I think that you can also fit a mSATA card in T430 so you could just use the crap HDD as extra partition for files and shit.
I guess it doesn't have a dedicated Nvidia card since you're not mentioning it.
>>55204215
your next step is to replace that t430 screen bezel with t420 screen bezel
>>55204215
You're supposed to either sand the palmrest or swap it together with the keyboard you dip
I decided to go ahead and buy this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Elitebook-2540p-Core-i5-M540-2-53GHz-4GB-250GB-Webcam-Windows-7-Laptop/181902009358?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D35391%26meid%3Dd70b4fba8fab4649b0c20764bdedebe6%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D371495157978
It's for: Premium shitposting, runescape, skype and old emulated 2D games.
How badly did I do?
>>55196345
Woahg holy shit the person you replied to has the end digits 245 and your end digits are 345!! Radical!!
>>55207005
Superior 2560p is another 25 quid
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-EliteBook-2560p-Core-i5-2540M-2-60GHz-4GB-320GB-Windows-7-Pro-Laptop-/152069847163
X220 is another 40.
Thinking of buying a T460p with the following configuration:
• Intel Core i7-6820HQ processor (8MB Cache, Up to 3.6 Ghz)
• Windows 10 Home 64
• Windows 10 Home 64 English
• 14.0 FHD(1920x1080) IPS Non-Touch
• NVIDIA GeForce 940MX 2GB
• 4GB DDR4-2133 SODIMM
• 720p HD Camera
• Keyboard Backlit - English
• UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader
• Software TPM Enabled
• 500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm, 2.5", SATA3
• ThinkPad Battery 6 cell Li-Ion (72Wh) Cyl HC Rear
• 135W 2pin US
• Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC(2x2) 8260, Bluetooth Version 4.1 vPro
• Integrated Mobile Broadband upgradable
• T460p FHD IPS AG WW PAINT
• Publication - English
• 1 Year Depot or Carry-in
Going to buy some ram myself and drop it in. This will be compiling code, developing code, and running as many VMs as I feel like at any given time, usually at least 3.
>>55207142
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T460p-Core-i7-GeForce-940MX-Notebook-Review.163699.0.html
HOUSEFIRE
>>55207123
I didn't feel like the small increase in power was worth spending an extra 25 for what I will use it for.
I did look at the X220 too.
>>55207165
>100 Degrees Communism in some cases
Weh boy, dem some temps, though I don't think I'll be working it THAT hard.
>>55207142
It looks like lenovo's site descriptions, if you order consider changing a few things. The gpu is superfluous, you can order it without a webcam and fingerprint reader, and I'd get the 8GB ram and ssd directly, unless you've got spare.
>>55207244
I can get a 16GB kit for nearly what the 8GB from Lenovo costs. The i7 only comes with the nvidia, gpu and the webcam is a nonremoveable option too.
tried removing battery to wipe bios password. didn't help. a little help please. it's a w510. thank you
So I bought this X201 from an auction yesterday and it did not come with a power supply. I cleaned it up and ordered an ac adapter from ebay.
Then later I was fooling around with it, mindlessly typing on the keyboard, as you do sometimes with dead laptops.
On a whim, I pressed the power button. Lights started to come on!
The battery still has a charge in it from sitting for who knows how long in storage before being surplused. I'm typing this message from it right now and ubuntu says I have 1:15 of battery life remaining.
How about that.
>>55206928
As I said, swap it how? They are not the same shape. You cannot swap the palmrest. I don't know why the wiki says you can. The only option is to trim the keyboard itself.
By all means, send me a picture of your T430 with the keyboard AND palmrest to prove me wrong. After all, I want to hear from other users who have done the swap.
>>55206901
I wanted to do this but I have the same issue, they are not the same size. The problem here is the hinge area. The T420 has smaller hinges. If I trim the T420 bezel to fit, it will cut into the lenovo logo and T420 label, defeating the purpose of the swap.
I'll take photos later if there is interest, I'm at work currently. But take my word for it, I have both the T420 and a T430. While they look identical, there are obviously small differences. The ports are not in the same place, for example.
>>55207280
Ah shit, I only looked the options of the x260 my bad.
>>55207525
I guess they were storing it correctly then. You're supposed to store lithium batteries at 50% charge or so.
>>55206928
>>55207749
To reinforce my point that I don't believe a palmrest swap is possible, look at my first post >>55204215 . That right there is a T430 palmrest. I know this from looking at the area near the arrow keys. So the person who modified pic related didn't change the palmrest either.
Please prove me wrong. I'm not saying this to sound like an asshole that thinks I'm smarter than you. I genuinely want to know how to swap my keyboard without doing the trimming, and insead use the palmrest to have a perfect fit.
Does anyone else hate this recent tapering off meme?
Look at the T460p vs T460s.
The T460s is slimmer by default, and that's fine, but what irks me is the non-uniform body. That thing "slims down"/tapers near the front, and it looks fucking stupid as shit. I understand that they're trying to reduce space and weight, but they do so by removing vertical space which is the least useful place to do that.
I would understand cutting an inch off the back or sides, but why would you taper down near the front? It looks downright stupid.
The MacBook Air started this trend and now everyone thinks they need to fucking do it.
The P50s is the only current S series ((("slimline"))) laptop that doesn't do this shit thanks to it having a dGPU.
I'm definitely just being an autist and this is clearly the new trend, but god fucking damn I can't stand this shit.
>>55207896
>the >>T420<< keyboard doesn't fit into the >>T420<< palmrest.
Do you not see how stupid you sound saying this?
>>55207211
>nicer chassis, GOAT elitebook design
>newer (SB was a decent improvement over 1st gen Westmere)
>>55207959
What?
The T420 palmrest does not fit onto the T430 model.
I want to put the T420 palmrest and keyboard onto the T430. The wiki says you can. I am trying to argue that this isn't true.
What are you reading?
>>55207949
Don't forget you also lose ports thanks to this bullshit. Ethernet is usually the first to go.
Fellow thinkfags, how do you deal with keyboards/rat nipples leaving marks on the screen? I bought a T420 recently and it's pretty annoying and hard to get rid of.
>>55208683
Windex and an old sock
>>55208701
That's basically what I'm doing, but it's coming down rather hard and I don't want to rek my screen by scrubbing it like a satan
>>55208719
Clean your hands and buy a 10 pack of trackpoints then i guess.
>>55208737
>Clean your hands
My hands are usually clean and I sweat less than the regular person
>buy a 10 pack of trackpoints then i guess.
How is that gonna help me?
>>55207949
>recent
>new trend
My X61s also tapers off.
post cool thinkpad pics
>>55203088
here I ftfy;
1: anime + shitposting
So this is the power, of the thinkpad.
The cable is loose I think.
>>55205559
I will be getting a x260 for university it looks comfy and portable ! It will be my main computer so I hope it's not too small, but it has a full hd resolution so that should be ok...
>>55209293
I dont watch anime though.
>>55209405
WOAH DUDE THAT THINKPAD IS LIKE GLITCHING THE MATRIX OR SOME SHIT OH MY GOD THATS AMAZING
I think I'm gonna get this and put an IPS screen in it. Is it a good deal? Can't find a better one here in Europe
brand new x240 i7 ssd and 8gb ram for 400€
(I actually like the looks of it over the older models...)
>>55209405
>anon finds missingno easter egg in 4chan
>>55203994
It's good, just the ccfl backlight is yellow like normal
should i invest the extra 150-200€ for an x240 or just get an x220?
>>55210860
Get an X220 because it's trackpad isn't bullshit
>visit mom and sis
>bring my 4 year old t430 with me
>put it on living room table
>dog pushes it on the floor
>left hinge breaks
>screen cracks
>keyboard busted
welp.
i checked amazon for replacement parts. new hinges, a wxga+ screen and a lenovo keyboard are together about 100 yurodosh.
anything i should keep in mind when looking at these?
the hinges are third party but solid steel. the keyboard is directly from lenovo and the screen is this one:
amazon.com/AU-OPTRONICS-B140RW02-Glossy-Panel/dp/B0041KVK7M
other than that im thinking about maybe switching out the optical drive for a disk bay and put a second ssd into it.
>>55211520
Buy a better dog? :^)
>>55211520
You don't want a glossy screen. Get matt.
In the situation where you do in fact want glossy, it's better for IPS screens. Your T430 however can't use them just yet.
>>55211575
>You don't want a glossy screen. Get matt.
gotcha.
shaved off like 10 bucks overall too.
>>55211537
GSDs are the biggest pussies. I've met one or two that are calm and intelligent, the others are scaredy-cat, neurotic weirdos. I even met one that had to be a good hundred pounds who would literally hide behind his petite female owner.
Belgian Malinois, on the other hand, are like the awesome cousin of the annoying GSD.
>>55211624
you could get the alienware 1600x900 panel, massive upgrade from the shit lenovo one
>>55211664
>even met one that had to be a good hundred pounds who would literally hide behind his petite female owner.
Retarded owners leads to retarded dogs famalam
>>55211671
does it even fit?
i assume it also is more expensive.
as it stands this matt lcd led panel is 32 bucks and states that it fits.
if you can get me a model number i can check and google a bit though.
>>55211671
This guy >>55211575 I was going to say this. I don't know of the quality of the screen you have chosen now, but I can vouch for the Alienware screen as I have this myself. You want a Alienware MX14 screen that is 1600x900. If you were using a lower resolution before the accident, you'll also need the HD+ LCD cable to make it compatible.
>>55211671
>>55211746
i spent some time looking it up.
i can actually get one for 45 yurodosh.
im going for it.
thanks a bunch famalamadingdongs.
Looking for a Thinkpad to take around school with me. Looking for an x220 as that's what seems to be recommended everywhere.
> No more then 350
>Not going to be doing any movie editing but I do want a little power. Might add an ssd to improve speed if that's possible as well.
Found this so far.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Core-i5-2-60Ghz-Premium-IPS-Display-8GB-WebCam-320GB-7200-/141745083584?hash=item2100aa54c0:g:owIAAOSwyQtVzSWW
>>55212298
Remember! Matte!
>>55212476
it is :^).
its a replacement directly from dell.
Just got myself an HP Elitebook 8440p for $100. It's pretty good, except for the missing middle click button and the trackpad buttons suck. I think they need to be replaced or cleaned or something. Does anyone have any recommendations?
What's a recommended usb 2.0 expresscard for an x220 that works with debian.
I keep finding cards with bad drivers or lack of support im reviews.
Advantages / disadvantages of X220 vs X220 Tablet?
Is it true the tablet doesn't have an mSATA slot for a 2nd drive? Anything else it's missing vs the X220, and does it have anything the X220 doesn't have aside from the screen?
As far as I've found online, there are 2 screens, both IPS, one is multitouch up to 5 fingers, the other is some sort of 'outdoor viewing' screen. Any way to tell the difference when purchasing one secondhand off ebay?
How wobbly is the hinge when carrying it / using a finger to scroll?
What's the difference between the i5-2520M and the i7-2620M, just the i7 is a bit faster? They're both dual core if I'm not mistaken, and the i7 has a bit more cache, but does it run too hot / lower battery life, or is it worth getting the i7 if possible?
>>55212857
The tablet model has smaller batteries and worse cooling, but guaranteed IPS unlike the non-tablet version. Don't get an i7.
Found some thinkpads at eBay from "Geeknext" should I just buy it from them?
>>55212901
Why not the i7? It would have usb 3.0 slot and faster no?
And what's the difference between an X220 9cell battery and an X220 Tablet 9cell battery, why is the tablet model one the one with a smaller battery?
And what's the better screen, the outdoor viewing one or the multitouch one?
Got ~250 GBP to spend on a laptop and I'm thinking of some sort of ThinkPad.
Something with decent battery life would be nice
Would an X230 be a good choice ?
>>55212959
USB 3.0 is the only reason to consider an i7 model. The increased performance over an i5 is too minor to be worth the extra heat and power usage, especially in the tablet which doesn't cool itself quite as well as the non-tablet model.
The X220 Tablet doesn't have a genuine 9cell option IIRC. I'm pretty sure the biggest battery Lenovo offered for it was a 6cell, maybe an 8cell.
Can't speak on the quality of different screens as all I've got is a regular TN X220. I would guess the outdoor viewing one is better to look at, multitouch would only be preferable if you intend to poke at it with your greasy sausage fingers instead of using the stylus like a civilized human being.
>>55212901
>guaranteed IPS unlike the non-tablet version
IPS upgrade is cheap as fuck anyway
>>55203994
Calibrate it using a colorimeter
X220 temps under full load?
Lodsa forums saying 90-95 degrees C, I'm gettin that too but was thinking about new thermal paste, but will it not get lower then?
Is the t420 good for coding? Just need it for school and typing up essays, nothing too crazy
>>55213254
Disgusting screen, but the keyboard is pretty okay.
>>55213280
Which model would you recommend?
>>55213323
T60 or X300/X301 make great typewriter machines. Especially the 15" T60 with 1600x1200 IPS, absolutely kicks the ass off the T420 panel (see >>55195905 for comparison).
>>55213395
Thanks, I'll look into them.
>>55202192
>Fun fact: truly retro thinkpads don't have them either
True, but TPs have had them ever since machines actually could play media. Fun fact, Thinkpads in 1993 didn't have a radio kill switch either.
>>55203601
Bumping this
It is possible to put a track point with physical buttons into a x240?
>>55214099
Swap in the X250 trackpad.
>>55214117
Thanks.
>>55213395
How about a t520? Any good, last time I checked it was like $200-300
>>55214277
Better than the T420 at the very least. Still, doesn't even begin to compare to Thinkpads of yore.
>>55213395
>tfw T60 died a few weeks ago
rest in pieces
When you by used what is the best way to make sure it's secure?
Is reinstalling the OS truly necessary if you are using the other side of the dual boot anyway (especially when the dual boot is linux and the original is windows)? Do you need to open it up the hardware at all?
>>55214713
Wipe the drive if you buy used. You never know what the last guy was doing. He could have been a pedo for all you know, and if anyone ever does forensics on your computer you'll be the one who gets fucked.
>>55214713
Wipe used hard drives period.
>spyware
>illegal software
>cold pizza
You never know and why take the chance.
>>55214748
If they could actually recover such files would they not also recover the modified dates? Those would be before I had purchased it.
I will probably do a complete wipe next time I reinstall my main OS. I just wondered if any "phoning home" would have been possible, I have used the original OS only a handful of times.
>>55214787
Will do.
>>55212313
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Core-i5-2-60Ghz-Premium-IPS-Display-8GB-WebCam-320GB-7200-/141745083584?hash=item2100aa54c0:g:owIAAOSwyQtVzSWW
i think it's better to go for x230t
My x220's ips has started ghosting, anyone else have this problem?
>>55215320
I had x220 tablet that had image retention issues. Not with my x220 ips though.
>>55215320
Change servers.
>>55211520
You can get another T430 for ~$200 if you hold out for a week or two and lurk eBay. Consider scrapping yours for parts on eBay and doing that.
>>55199574
where are you in Brazil? I managed to buy a T410 with 4gb RAM e 250gb HD at OLX for that price
What are cool things I can do with a thinkpad tablet? Give me an excuse to buy an old model.
>>55199574
>>55215650
I know that there are stores that sells used T410 for cheaper than that with RAM and HDD and warranty, the only crappy thing is the battery.
>>55216222
Draw porn.
Draw weird porn.
Draw animu.
Draw animu porn.
Take notes.
Do math.
Touch the screen with your dick to close bad threads.
Use your dick to navigate around 4chan casually.
Draw dicks.
Play weird indie games with your dick.
Play split screen co-op with your dick and your friend('s dick).
Complain on /qa/ about /pol/ with your dick.
Complain about the lack of dick friendly navigation for dick-capped people, like you.
Thinking of getting an E460, can anyone tell me why it's a bad idea? Some guy said earlier the build was shitty.
I've never had a thinkpad but this looked good so I thought I would ask the general
>>55197446
man they didn't even do the arrow keys correctly for a shushed keyboard
should have been fn + up down for page up/down and fn + left right for home end.
>>55208683
push the nipple on all the way, or quit pressing on the back of the screen so hard.
>>55215320
>>55215364
there seems to be a perpetual stream of quality issues with the X220
See something daily about it
>>55212959
Don't get the i7. If you want usb 3.0 just add a USB 3.0 expresscard to it.
>>55212313
For 350 go for an x230
the USB 3 and hd 4000 being VASTLY superior to hd 3000 will be huge when editing videos
>>55216738
but the express cards are never as fast as the built in stuff, and aren't bootable
>>55215650
Curitiba. Didn't found any good offer on OLX so now I'm looking on Mercado Livre.
>>55207142
I've also been looking into getting a T460. You don't need the backlit keyboard. The keys are slippery and fingerprint magnets. Otherwise looks good.
>turn up for a job interview for a software development position
>get tour of office, labs, workstations, etc
>lots of cheap plastic shit laptops about. lots of dells.
>not a thinkpad in sight
>windows everywhere
>turn around 540 degrees
>walk out
Fond memories of shitty thinkpads?
>be in high school
>have t61p with nvidia graphics card
>anorexic so constantly freezing cold, especially extremities
>computer gets so hot that I can use it as a warmer for my hands, always comfortable while sitting at my desk
>>55216977
thats not shitty, thats a feature
![199_r61[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lha8MOZ.jpg "199_r61[1].jpg")
Does any x64-based thinkpad use the keyboard layout pictured? I know they changed to the double-sized escape/delete keys on the T410 as the T400 has the pictured keyboard, but the T400 is an x86-based machine.
>>55217136
The T400 is 64 bit, Anon.
I've heard rumors that the Latitude E6400 will accept any screen that physically plugs in. Is this true? I've been pondering installing a slightly higher resolution screen (nothing crazy, probably just 1440x900 since I'm still stuck on integrated graphics and want to keep Windows Aero if I can).
>>55195429
does anyone have a link to a whitelisted bios that actually works?
every time I try to flash it on my t420 I get an error say no bios file found or something like that.
>>55217217
There is nothing positive about windows aero. It eats resources doing nothing functional and makes your computer look like ass.
https://www.amazon.com.mx/THINKPAD-L440-20ASA0SQLM-I3-4000-W7P/dp/B00THB70GK/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1466653898&sr=1-4
sup ese, i need something good but im thinkin in buy asus, or this one
>>55217259
Why do you assume people here can read your shitty spic language or convert from your shitty spic monopoly money??
>>55197287
You mean removing keys only _you_ use.
>>55217256
That's just, like, your opinion, man.
So can it actually take any screen or are you just going to be unhelpful and shitpost?
My friend found an old ThinkPad at a junk yard. It still works, but he doesn't know the passwords to get into it. Is there something he can do to unlock it? I think it's from 2005 if it helps.
>>55217310
BIOS lock or windows login screen?
BIOS is expensive to deal with
Windows, and you should leave
>>55217310
There are multiple ways a TP can be locked, if it's just a normal password you can try taking out the cmos battery.
However, if it's the supervisor password, there's nothing you can do short of replacing a part of the mobo.
>>55217282
ok, currency convertion is like 440$, but really ¿you can not interpret a few specifications?
Is the T420 8GB Ram and 320 GB HDD good enough for some light office use and video cutting?
>>55217486
Yes.
>>55217416
Reading the language of subhumans can cause brain damage.
