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-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --

>Headphone purchase advice
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Noise isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
If you dislike a suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, x sucks"

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>>55143689
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Been wearing my glasses more; hurts with my circumaural headphones. Nonjanky solutions?
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>>55144037
audio technica or akg cups sit very lightly on the head
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£150-£600

UK

Mounted 65" television from about eight feet away

Full-size

Closed

Preferably very comfortable, something that I can wear for around 3 hours and not be bothered by

Movies (substitute for surround sound)

Currently using Sennheiser HD25, which are great for portable music and watching stuff from my PC, but don't have a long-enough cord and likely wouldn't produce the theater-like effect I'm after

Past purchases:
>Beyerdynamic DT770
Really enjoyed using these for music on my PC, but never got around to trying them on movies before they crapped out after a week from being second hand ("cosmetic imperfection" my ass)
>Sony MDR-V55
Not as loud as the HD25, but used these for the same sort of stuff for about a year until I wore them out, and was very satisfied.
>Sennheiser HD201
Went through a couple pairs of these because hey, £20 makes everything sound better.
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>>55144037
Use on ears or IEMs?
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>>55144069
>long-enough cord
Get an extension cord or a wireless adapter if your TV supports it.

>a statement that is not connected in a logical or clear way to anything said before it
The only way to get that is with a speaker system.
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Looking for a pair of headphones for public use on transit/at school. Reason for the low budget is I bought a pair of SR80's and am feeling the sting of buyer's regret.
>Budget
$50-$100 CAD ($40-$75 eaglebucks). I can flex this a bit, but would obviously prefer not to.
>Location
Toronto.
>Source
Just my S4 or my shitty laptop.
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear definitely. On-ears and IEMs give me headaches.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
I'd prefer comfy over not, but I find most headphones feel alright after I break them in a bit.
>Preferred tonal balance
Flat. The flatter the better.
>Preferred music
I listen to a bit of everything, from post-rock to electro and classical.
>Past headphones
-Sennheiser HD 438: Comfy and cheap, I didn't feel like the lows were overwhelming but the low end hit pretty lamely.
-Superlux HD 661: Decent clarity for the price, low end was very punchy when you boosted it a bit. They were uncomfortable as fuck and gave me constant headaches. Extremely unwieldy for public use. I still own these, but would prefer not to use them.
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>>55144037
akg 702, k712 and x2's have been fine with my glasses.
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>>55144069
I don't understand why would you even use headphones with large ass TV.

Get good monitors and enjoy whole new level of sound
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>>55144295
>I don't understand why would you even use headphones with large ass TV.
There are various reasons. One is that some people live in apartments with thin walls.
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>>55144164
>>55144295
>>55144313
The apartment I live in has thin walls and about three sets of neighbours I could disturb with having a big-ass surround sound (as demonstrated by the neighbour above me who often plays music and lets me pick up on every bass line). Thought a good pair of headphones would be the next best thing.
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>>55144344
Go to war.

See who will yield like a bitch and call police first.
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>Budget
250 USD
>Location
Mootxico
>Source
Fiio E10K
>Preferred type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
V shaped
>Preferred music
Glitch Hop, Instrumental, Metal
>Past headphones
Cloud II
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Don't fear the richness
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>>55144549
I don't, I despise them and their build quality+clamp
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>>55144570
I have a large head, no clamp at all. I forget im wearing them and can wear them all day.

No clue how these could be uncomfy.

Also, i've dropped them over a dozen times, still going strong.
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>tfw your cat eats your IEM's
>2 pairs in two nights
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>>55144722
Fair enough, I have a big head too and they felt very tight when I tried them but maybe they loosen up over time.
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>>55144743
That's why you get a doge m8, cats are fucking gay and disgusting on every level.

Literally old woman: the animal
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$50-$70, not firm
USA
PC/Phone
Gaming, needs microphone
Closed
High Comfort
Metal/Rock
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>>55144842
>maybe they loosen up over time.
They definitely loosen up over time.
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>>55144743
Maybe there's a reason why every IEM comes with a carrying case.
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Philips A5PRO/00 or ATH-M40X?

They are at the same price.
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How do the Samson 850 and Superlux 688b comare to the k240 in terms of sound quality?
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~$60 max
USA
Fiio E10k
Open
Not that worried about comfort
As close to neutral as possible
Classical/jazz/rock/etc
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I can get a nice deal on a FiioX3 and FiioQ1 combo, should I?
I'd be upgrading from an iPod Touch 6 I can sell to recoup about half of what I'll be paying for the combo.
I'm only interested if it's worth upgrading though.
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>>55143689
JUST DIE YOU STUPID FUCKING WEABOO
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You guys are the best; thanks for all the detailed comments and feedback

>>55142173
I've been curious about the hd600 too, but also expecting to not like the sound. I've tried the 598, admittedly a step down, but anyway didn't like it.

also please don't literally cuck them, there are properly other girlfriends to fuck.

>>55142301
The he400i was revised to have the backplate removed; see for instance
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/he-400i.601/page-2#post-22500
IMO a big change but again I don't know of reviews before and after the change

>>55142392
Thanks for pointing out the diminishing returns above k700, hd650, dt880; I can pay more for headphones but would feel like an idiot paying more than makes sense, especially with excellent cheaper options. Also I don't see any reason why the more expensive ones aren't worse in some cases, which can be true of any commodities.

I did post responses to the recommendation questionnaire, and the main suggestions were hd600 and k702 since I wanted high accuracy. What makes me worried about hd600 are my trials of similar models and not liking them. What worries me about k702 is I tried the k7xx and thought it was absolute dogshit, not just for the bass but also for the muddled midrange. Part of the problem is that I compared them side by side with k550, which have a midrange spike, but I happen to like midrange so I probably should have EQ'd to do a proper test. Even so, it's hard for me to imagine the k702 sounding good if it's just k7xx with different pads and bass.

I was curious about the he400i since it seems to still be accurate, but is quite different from any headphones I have owned; I'm just kindof curious and willing to experiment. But overall reviews seem to stress their bass properties, and also point out certain flaws in higher registers, whereas k702 don't seem to have many flaws discussed.

Anyway, shit be difficult
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>>55146767
Depends on how nice the deal is. The X3ii is already enough on its own so you won't need the Q1. It can be nice if you want an analog pot, though. You can probably also connect the Q1 to your phone but that means silicone bands would be covering your screen and just extra bulk to carry in general when you already have the X3ii.

>>55146804
If you've been here long enough, you should already be used to it.
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>>55146952
I plan on using the Q1 on my PC, since it's a crappy laptop with built in audio card. I think the X3 ought to be enough for regular use and the Q1 would go on my laptop.
How well does the X3 perform as a media player, and would I notice any quality differences compared to my iPod Touch 6?
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>>55146874
>k550, which have a midrange spike
K550 don't have a "midrange spike". you were ether testing a faulty unit or you failed to identify what counts as the midrange.
>k702 don't seem to have many flaws discussed.
lacking subbass, bloated upper bass and lower mids, harsh treble between 2-3 kHz and 5-10 kHz
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>>55146987
As far as how much better, very little if any. The interface isn't that great, either.
However, it does have more power. I was able to push Ether, 400i, HD600 etc with lots of steps left.

Overall, I think you would be better off just keeping the iPod and getting a dedicated desktop amp/DAC with the same money.
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>>55147005
Apologies, you are definitely right about the k550s, at least officially; I just double checked with innerfidelity's measurements. Mine definitely have a frequency bump there, though, and other aspects of them disagree with what I read online. I think they were tweaked a lot throughout their existence; mine are of the first batch.

About the k702, I thought people found them very neutral?
http://www.kenrockwell.com/audio/akg/k702.htm
When did you try them? That review for instance had austrian versions, but afaik akg is moving all manufacturing elsewhere. I just don't trust akg after the disastrous k7xx I tried.
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>>55147102
>About the k702, I thought people found them very neutral?
depends on the unit i guess. they do seem to have suspicious quality control nowadays.
the lack of subbass is pretty much guaranteed.
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>>55146874
Are the HE-400S and HE-400i the same driver?
Not that I'm buying a HiFiMAN product.
I own the old HE-400i model and I feel cucked.
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>Budget
$50 - $75, am flexible.
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed please.
>Comfort level
Not my top priority, but I would like some comfiness.
>Preferred music
Classical to polyphonic to electronic experimental to just plain weird and wobbly. No confines and no one taste, really.


pls to help
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Is there a program or extension that can automatically adjust volume so that everything is roughly the same loudness? (normalize?)
I'm tired of having to adjust my volume all the time since there doesn't seem to be any standard level anywhere.

I'm on windows (7), though something for android might also be nice.
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Alright /g/entoomen since I don't think /mu/ wants to help me with this, I'm gonna try asking here.

I Just got a vintage turntable and am trying to get a half decent preamp + Amp + speakers set up. What would be a good budget preamp to get going with vinyl?
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>>55147422
fb2k has a built-in ReplayGain feature.
if that doesn't suit you, check those instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReplayGain#Alternatives
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>>55147732
> Burn in
> On a cable
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Audiophiles are in the 40+ demographic right? Is it safe to say that they'll literally die out in the near future?
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Sell me on a decent pair of IEMs. I have two full sized headphones but I want some IEMs on the cheap side so I can wear when I'm in niggertown niggervile. Something with low profile and I won't miss much if it's stolen but sounds good.
I was looking at the Shure SE215, looks decent enough and has great reviews for a 100$ pair of IEMs
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>>55148352
Best IEMs around the $100 price range is the MA750
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>>55148352
etymotic hf5
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Thoughts on Grado headphones? Is the "made in US" a meme or do they actually sound good?
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>>55148719
Grados belong in the trash. Porta Pros are cheaper and better.
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>>55148719
Grados provide a lot of clarity and an exciting sound. But because of hardcore objectivists and its retro styling it gets shouted down anytime it is discussed.
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Inexpensive $30 or less
portable
over or on-ear
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>>55146874
Bit late on the comment train but here's my opinion. God I remember when I first got into this hobby.

I've tried a lot of flagships and popular headphones personally, aside from the most batshit offerings like the Abyss, SR-009 etc. Trying models out for yourself is the consistently accurate method. Not only can reviews be vastly different from one another, and even then not guaranteed to fall in line with your views, they're also not all-encompassing and can leave out potentially vital information. For example everyone loves the HE-400i's energetic mids or whatever, right? But how many people mention its strange treble texture? That one quality ruined the entire headphone for me (still a pretty good headphone overall). If you read reviews AFTER you listen to headphones, it skews your understanding because your mind fills in the gap with knowledge you now have.

Another thing is that trying more headphones makes your impressions more accurate. I know it sounds obvious, but an example would be that although I used to think the HD600 was neutral, trying more headphones made me realize that it was actually quite mid focused with slightly recessed but good quality bass/treble.

Lastly, more expensive headphones are noticeably better sounding. It's probably just a 4chan thing but people love to preach bullshit without having personal experience. Is a $1200 headphone 3x as good as a $400 headphone? I'm not sure how you'd measure that kind of thing, but 99% it won't be. But are they the same? Are the improvements slight or imperceptible? Fuck no. Any highly acclaimed headphone is going to be such for a reason. Whether you feel comfortable spending that amount is another story.

Don't just buy dozens of headphones unless you're wealthy or you REALLY love the hobby. I think certain models are very good at helping you figure out what sound you like though, e.g. HD600/650/800, 400i and LCD-2. You might like the T1 actually, you can get one for cheap used.
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I repent for doubting you O exalted EQ gods. A simple treble boost has saved my LCD-2 from the trash bin.
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New SHIT Modi 2 Uber AK4490 better than JDS Labs ODAC finally? They updated the old AK4396 DAC and they're shipping them with 4490s.
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I thought I liked the xba but they really need the amp dac to open up and it removes the purpose of them in the first place which is the portability. Even with it they can't come close to the 990 in detail and clarity though
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>>55149245
Hey, thanks so much for the comment. I really like everything you said, especially the bit about trying more headsets to get a sense of others. E.g., how do you know you like the color blue, if you only know shades of blue? What does blue even mean in that case?

I actually have no problem getting the more expensive flagships, and have been considering the Beyerdynamic T1s. (For instance, the first revision is still available, new, for $700 on amazon; by contrast, the second revision is $1000.) The main issue for me however is that it simply makes me feel ill to spend that much money if, say, the k702 is close in quality. (I have the money, but try in all ways to be frugal in life. But I love music, so permit myself some excess.)

Also, receiving and returning or re-selling headphones takes time and annoys the hell out of me. So every few years I get another pair of cans, and it's nice to have some variety, thus I was considering the 400i. But honestly everything I've read makes it seem I should get the k702.

As for trying the headphones, it doesn't seem feasible for me to try them in a store; I don't want to be harassed if I leave without a purchase, also I need quite some time for my ears to adjust and understand new aspects of the headset, rather than just checking a list of things I already know I like. But that invariably means returns, re-selling, etc. Any suggestions?

Thanks again for the standpoint. I disagree so much with most of what I read online that it really resonates with me.
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how is your experience with used headphones? are the k702 well made?
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>>55147415

add 5 buck plus tax and get the mdr 7506 use bass boost or EQ to get more bass if you feel like you need it
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>>55149643
What is the reason why you choose K702? Why not HD600 / HD650? If you still want K702s you just need new pads but what if it has the bumps on the K702 headband?

I have HD600, DT880, K702 and HD600 is what everyone should own. K702s and DT880s are just different.
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>>55147177

>sub bass

can you source me a song with lots of sub bass please, i need to make a test on with EQ Apo
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>>55149699
Not that anon but any organ music should test your sub-bass.
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>>55149670

im looking at an used pair of k702, 100 usd very tempting, in my country the HD 600 are very expensive, if i want new the DT 880 are the cheapest but still 200 usd
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>>55149730
Oh, Okay. Can you ask them to lower the price even more? I think you can wait for a brand new K702 for around $150 USD if there is a sale somewhere. Ask for a lower price for that used K702 for $80.
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>>55149707

thanks sempai
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>>55149785

let me try, i will need an amp right? which one would do great?
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>>55149821
JDS Labs Objective 2 if you can also get that used.

Here's a example of a brand new K702.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111862866157
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>>55149821
Woops wrong one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301901483456

Or Fiio E10K.
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>>55146874
>>55149478
I quite dislike the HD 518/558/598, but find the 600/650 default response tolerable. I wouldn't call them dramatically different, but opinions don't hold through a line as broad as Sennheiser's.

K550 impressions can be hard to pin down, and measurements can offer a bit of insight here.
It seems fairly well known at this point that the K550 line has sealing issues. The padding isn't the most helpful, but even a small amount of leakage causes a dramatic loss of bass, up to 20 dB on one person.

HE-400i, like most planar headphones, lack broad midbass boosts that their coiled counterparts tend to have. They have a fairly extended and flat bass to go with it. Even with so many planar dynamics having those similar points of flatness, they rarely are flat tuned overall. 400i has a trough from the midrange (~1 kHz) up to the high treble peak (8-10 kHz) it has.

>>55147372
400i and 400S are more than a little different. The drivers have at least a few differences, different impedance and damping/compliance ratio.
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>>55149478
Sorry for the late reply. I respect the frugality. I try not to be lavish either but the way I see it a good headphone scales off all of your music as well and should last you a long time if you take good care of it.

I used to own the HD800, but since I don't only listen to the most immaculate feats of sonic engineering I couldn't stand them anymore. What's the point if only 20% of my library sounds incredible on them? I got the T1 to replace them and I really like it even though it's pretty bright. It's high quality treble regardless and personally I just EQ it down a bit. Don't get them if you're sensitive to that kind of thing, though. I haven't tried the 2nd gen but to my understanding they're nothing spectacular.

I feel like any decent merchant should be supportive of the customer's needs even if it doesn't lead to an immediate transaction, but if you think you'd get better results at home then you should definitely do that instead. I know the other anon recommended Amazon but I don't know how their return policy works exactly. The Cable Company has a headphone lending service that lets you try different models in exchange for 5% of their cost (it's deposited toward future business you do with them but keep in mind they sell at MSRP unlike Amazon etc). Sadly I don't think they have the K702. Also with something like the 400i, you can easily buy it for $300 when it goes on sale and resell it on head-fi or whatever for $300 so long as you keep it in good condition. This can't be guaranteed for all models obviously.
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>>55149478
>>55149949
cont'd, jesus I'm talking a lot

I've only resold 3-4 times so I don't have much experience, but obviously used headphones will vary wildly in quality. One of the headphones I bought used was over 3 years old and looked absolutely flawless when I got it, whereas a 1 year old headphone was congested with wax, pet hair and tobacco smoke. Pretty fucking nasty, but I couldn't complain because I got it at a huge discount.

I know none of this is very helpful to you. I'd just try to find the K702 in a brick and mortar shop and audition it there or buy and return. Maybe just pay the $270 if you can't stand the curiosity? And again I do recommend at least trying the HD600 if you ever get the opportunity, I first got them because I thought the HD598 was boring and not clear enough. They're one of 3 headphones I still own, although it's mostly out of sentimentality.
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>>55149478
>>55149730
Come on dude, just get it if you see a pair for $100. Unless it's horribly deformed you can resell it for just as much. It's worth discovering if you like it or not.
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400i is warmer/darker than HD600
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>Budget
$300 for headphones and dac/amp thing if needed
>Location
US
>Source
Onboard soundcard, or whatever is recommended
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed, open to open if there's something dope
>Comfort level
I don't care much. I wear them several hours daily though.
>Preferred tonal balance
Some bass. M50ish is what I'm used to.
>Preferred music
Synthpop, electropop, dream pop, indie pop, kpop, lo-fi pop (everything is pop...), shoegaze, alt. r&b, trip hop, trap rap, witch house, and the occasional indie art-ish rock à la st. vincent
>Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55JUpfyPeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUyeytIimIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUSwkbu1IjU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEmqJBcQ2lg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYYRKW8_pFM
>Past headphones
I've had M50s for three years now, but some plastic broke after light pulling over time. Getting a better system when I get new cans to prevent this...

DT770s seem like something I want from my uneducated research, tell me what to do pls
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I've heard the K701 and K702 are kind of bright, and the Q701, K7xx, and K712 supposedly have a bit of a bass boost compared to those. Which AKGs are actually the most neutral?
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>>55150136
Get DT770 if you want a ton of bass, Fidelio X2 for slightly less bass but overall better sound
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>>55146874
>diminishing returns
The value goes down from the very cheapest sets, and idea of value is the most subjective and personal term of all.
If you pick the right headphones, they do deliver more performance as the price increases, until there too few competitors to care it to. You also have to pick the parameters that you are willing to pay for.

Price doesn't mean quality, but it gets seen this way, it sets expectations.
There have some popular and acclaimed headphones that have their reception and perceived worth drop in sync with any price cuts made on a headphone. There are some headphones are seen as better or improved when only the price is increased.


>>55149643
>used headphones
I seldom buy new audio, let other people eat the early adopter and box opening fee. Products are generally well taken care of, and they often amount to cosmetic blemishes if they aren't. At worst, the necessary tools for cleaning (detergent, lint remover, hydrogen peroxide) are handy.
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>>55150216
Q701 is more or less the same as the K701/2, but with some branding and (imo) gaudy colours.

K7XX and X712 are using the same drivers but with a bass boost and different earpads. From what I've read, the much thicker pads on the XX, do contribute a fair bit to the sound, swapping them out supposedy brings them closer to the 702.
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>>55142133
>Also, maybe I just have to accept the art of EQ, and mercilessly tweak EQ on any set of headphones I try before deciding I don't like them.
I can offer some statements on EQ and my experience, hopefully you can use them.

EQ works. It can be applied to any headphone for the better, provided you use it properly. Practically every aspect that people fuss over is related to something that EQ can modify and affect whether they realize it or not, "detail", soundstage, "speed", clarity, dynamics, impact, and so on.
Equalization is very useful in figuring out what signature you want and what flaws and aberrations exist in a headphone. You can use this as a baseline to figure out what to look for from there.

Before you take the opposite angle blindly, EQ isn't some audio panacea either. EQ is built around affecting the amplitude wrt frequency, and phase usually associated with the level adjustment. Frequency intensity is very much a part of determining audio position, but EQ doesn't affect echoes so much. It won't eliminate inconsistent positioning or fitting as a problem.

>>55150216
>Which AKGs are actually the most neutral?
The K612 is the generally flattest model, as was the K601 in the previous generation.
>I've heard the K701 and K702 are kind of bright
I don't like to think that a stray spike turns a headphone I would want to call veiled into a bright headphone.
I also struggle to recall a headphone that sounded like it had generally bright tonality, just a peak offset by big bass or broad canyons in the upper frequencies.
Something to keep in mind about my experience.
>Q701, K7xx, and K712 supposedly have a bit of a bass boost compared to those
Q701/K702/K701 either sound the same or are each distinctly tuned, depending on who you ask. I hear them the same.
K712 and K7XX are closer to each other and are separate from the older models.
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>Budget
50 burgers
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Looking for something that's more comfy. I wear glasses 24/7 so that's something to consider
>Preferred music
Dad rock and some hipster bullshit with a little bit of flying lotus thrown in there somewhere.

Follow up question: Has anyone used a mod mic before? This is going to replace a broken gaymer headset that I got years ago.
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>>55150376
>>55150408
I'll probably just go with whatever is the cheapest out of the K701,K702, and Q701 then.

These need an amp, right? I keep hearing that the K7XX does.
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>>55150494
I think the K240 are on sale on Amazon right now. That's about your only option with those characteristics and that budget as far as I know
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>>55150615
It helps a lot, but it's not as necessary as with flagships. O2/ODACs are fairly cheap. Magni/Modi is alright but some say it's bright if you buy into amps coloring sound.
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>>55146767
I need more help with this. I'm leaning towards keeping my iPod. Buying a desktop amp is kinda hard considering I live in Mexico, so I use my iPod as a general player even inside my house.
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>>55150950
I'll check those out then. Thanks, anon.
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>>55150948
I'm probably going to be going about 50-75 range if I can get a cheaper microphone than a mod mic that's as convenient
but those look pretty good for what I want honestly, thanks
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>>55151023
I use my cellphone as a mic, so you can do that if you want to save a little. The mic quality is as good as the calling quality, so you can be the judge and see if it's enough for you.
All you need is a 3,5mm male to male cable and a free applications from the play store
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I want to go to a CanJam but I don't want to be the only person in his mid twenties in a sea of moth ball smelling audiophilic old men.
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>Budget
£200

>Location
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

>Source MacBook Air / OnePlus One (could buy an external amp if need be, £40 budget for that)

>Preferred type of Headphone
Full

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Not too bothered.

>Preferred Tonal Balance
Flat

>Preferred music
Metal, electronic, garage rock

>Past Headphones
Klipsch S4i, Xiaomi Piston 3, Audio Tecnica ATH-M50X

I like the clarity of my M50Xs, but I feel like listening to them tires me out (I don't know why, it's hard to describe). Someone has recommended me the Beyerdynamic DT250s. Are there better options out there?
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>>55151489

Will be using in public, so would like minimal sound leak.
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>>55151089
I'm going (31yr) to one, wont speak to anyone. Just listen to a few select phones' and gtfo of there.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVUG6ewo_J4

4000USD, thanks Jewd.
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Who /HD 800/ here

Vocals sound amazing.
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>>55144037
I literally got LASIK solely to make large open headphones more comfortable to wear. I never even considered it once until I bought my first pair of decent headphones and within the hour, realized the glasses were making it kind of annoying.
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>>55146874
K7xx are a bassier version of the k712, which was supposed to fix the anemic bass of the k702
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My HD681s are starting to give way after years of use - pads starting to crack and peel, cord only works if you pull hard to one angle. I figure there's no quick fix for something like this so I might as well consider some alternatives.

>Budget
$100-130

>Location
Straya

>Source
Just the standard audio socket on my computer.

>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Closed, I guess

>Comfort level
Very comfortable. Something I can wear around my neck since my headphones double as speakers at the moment.

>Preferred music
I'm pretty shit at music, but I listen to a lot of stuff like this: https://soundcloud.com/sonsofpythagoras/xxl007-07-call-to-harm

I also play a lot of videogames.

>Past headphones
Just Superlux HD681s
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What's the use of equalizing neutral headphones?
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>tfw I use a pair of Skullcandy hesh 2s
I'm the cancer that's killing music
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>>55152730
Can you find the NVX XPT100 in your neck of the world?
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>>55152892
For personal taste.
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>>55153023
I can get them from Amazon US. It'll probably end up being cheaper than anywhere in Aus anyway.
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>>55147102
People should be careful when they say that there are sound differences among different units of the same model of a headphone. The only big difference between the austrian K702 and the chinese K702 lies in the absence of the headband bumps, which imo is an improvement comfort-wise. AKG claimed that the new chinese K702 are tuned exactly as the old austrian K702, the choice to move the production from Austria to China was supposedly due to production's cost reduction. The parts composing the K702 still come from Austria, as it's stated on the box.

> neutral
K702 is neutral and it has a really balanced sound. The two spikes at 2 and 6 kHz and the slightly rolled-off sub-bass (which is a common feature of most dynamic open headphones at any rate) don't justify a different definition. As for K702's bass, honestly I didn't notice it as being much weaker when I switched from a Fidelio X2. To say the truth, K702 bass is just tighter and more accurate, since K702 lets sub-bass come out much better than Fidelio X2 did. I find the definition of anemic for K702's bass exaggerated imo.
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>>55152892
Because no headphone is perfectly flat.
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Any recommendations for headphones around 25 euros, avaliable in europe? I used to have hd201 but after few years they got bit dirty and i couldnt clean them properly, and foam started to break. I want something that would kind of separate me from outside word while listening but i dont want others near me hear what im listening too (must be annoying, and thats what i got now with some random cheap headphones).
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>Budget
100-150Euros, hard cap on 150
>Location
Netherlands, probably ordering online
>Source
Mostly computer, if it has a plug in for an android phone, thats a bonus
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized.
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfort is a pretty big priority
>Preferred tonal balance
>Preferred music
https://youtu.be/uGCpxOLIzZ8
bassy stuff, hip hop and the like
>Past headphones
Razor Kraken Pro
Theyre neon green which suck but that's not too relevant, I had to get used to the bass for a while but it's good now. Theyre starting to deteriorate and I wanted some new ones.

I'd prefer one with a mic if possible, but it's not a requirement, seeing as the mic on a headset comes with a higher price and lower sound quality.
I'm looking for a headset for gaming while listening to loud music
I was looking at buying the Shure SRH440(pic related), but if theres better headphones out there for 150 I'd much prefer those
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>>55153812
HyperX Cloud I is the standard recommendation for anyone wanting a closed gaming headset.
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>>55153812
https://tweakers.net/categorie/453/koptelefoons/producten/#filter:q1YqKMpMTvXNzFOyMtBRKi5ITXbLzClJLSpWsqpWMjYwNQPRZYk5SlbRSmaWhkZKsbU6IHFTFHEDc6B4bS0A
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>>55153837
I was hoping to get one a little more expensive than that to be honest.
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>>55153881
Why? Because you suppose that such a cheap headphone must be bad? It's the best gaming headset around, even though it's cheap. Expensive stuff isn't always good, trust me. If you want to invest money into a good closed headphone with no mic, get either a ATH M40X or a Beyer DT770 80 Ohm. Since you're going to use your headphones mostly for gaming, I take it that sound quality isn't a priority to you.
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>>55153912
Why would sound quality not be important for gaming?
I'm not that guy, and I don't really know much about all games out there. But I do know that a game like Witcher 3 comes with a solid soundtrack, as well as good sound direction. They really tried to have the music be a part of the atmosphere, and my own Philips X1 are very pleasant to use with the game as a result.
Then again, I suppose you could say those headphones are more designed for comfort in both sound and wearability in mind.
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>>55153812
DT770s are bass monsters with a V shaped frequency response.
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>>55153956
>>55153812
That said, take a look at the Sony MDR-100AAP.
>Closed
>Microphone
>Comfortable (for a closed one)
>Low impedance (good for phone usage and no need for an amp at the pc)
Downside is that I don't think it's got as much bass as that ATH M40X or Beyer. Not at all familiar with the HyperX.
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>Budget
Max €100
>Location
Holland
>Source
Music and series
>Preferred type of headphone
Wireless
>Open or closed
Closed pref, but not a major issue if open
>Comfort level
Dont mind
>Preferred tonal balance
High bass, high treble
>Preferred music
Techno (drumcode), jazzy rap
>Past headphones
Superlux hd 681
Sennheiser hd 598

Im happy with my current Superlux hd681's, I just want an extra wireless pair. There are weeks that im active in the night because I have different workshifts. So when I move around a lot in the house or want to watch shit from my pc on my tv withour having to use the speakers a wireless pair would be perfect to switch to.

I know wireless is frowned upon but any advice would be welcome. The Superlux hd681 was also advised here so surely there must be a wireless version of such a cheap hidden gem that im not seeing on google.. Thanks in advance boys
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>>55153956
>Why would sound quality not be important for gaming?
Because most games aren't as demanding as music or movies when it comes to sound quality. This said, most games would still benefit from a good headphone. Gamers think that headphones having 5 or 7 drivers are good for gaming, when actually they're worse than stereo headphones.

>>55153992
HyperX Cloud is basically a rebranded Takstar Pro with detachable mic, it's good. Every other headphone marketed as gaming headphone is bad.
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>>55154010
Over or on ear?
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>>55154055
Do those 5.1/7.1 headphones actually have that many drivers? I've never looked into them, but since they're usually USB powered, I always assumed it was simply something similar to Dolby Headphones.
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>>55154059
>Over or on ear?
Over ear pref, but you know, if theres a really good on ear I dont mind. all recommendations are welcome
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>>55154101
I have a CoolerMaster Sirus 5.1 headset and it has 6 drivers. I stopped using it after trying the Fidelio X2.
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>>55154106
http://www.sony.com/electronics/headband-headphones/mdr-zx330bt
These are on-ear, and use bluetooth to connect. €65-€70.
They're kinda nice, and the battery life is pretty good for wireless headphones. I especially liked the controls and the design, but of course the audio quality isn't particularly overwhelming, to say the least.
I'd suggest seeing if you can try them out somewhere first.
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>>55154141
That sounds like it would be horrible. Not to mention a pretty useless format.
Would've been better if it would decode 7.1 into the 6 drivers, because with 5.1 you would have 2 channels on either side where you have 3 drivers on either side..
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>>55154245
Good stereo headphones are always better, especially when they are open. I don't expect 7.1 headphones to sound better than 5.1 ones anyways. You don't need more than one driver for each side.
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>>55154328
Quite, quite.
I personally do adore my pretty cheap soundcard. I set it to two channels for every day and every thing usage, but have MPV set to wasapi:exclusive with audio-channels=auto.
It decodes the audio track, and sends it to wasapi. Wasapi handles the audio and soundcard output.
As a result, I get very very nice "surround" sound when I watch movies, and nothing happens when I do anything else.
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>>55143689
I'm new here and thinking of purchasing a new set of headphones this summer. Can someone tell me about the technical advantages and disadvantages of IEMs compared to full-sized headphones? I've been using IEMs for a long time but I am thinking of getting a pair of full-sized headphones.
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>>55151489

K550
if you get tired maybe you need to EQ the pikes or lower the volume
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>>55154191
Thanks, ill check them out
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>Budget
<50$ or <70$ if there's a large enough quality difference

>Location
US

>Source
Computer with no amp yet.

>Type
OEMs

>Open or closed
Closed because I currently live with others I'm more interested in reducing sound leakage than preventing noise coming in

>Comfort
Comfortable enough that I can wear them for hours at a time with little discomfort but am willing to compromise some

>Tonal balance
Probably neutral and will be using them for games so a decent sound stage would be nice
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>>55154455
I would say it's all about personal preference.
Personally, I think IEMs are less comfortable in use, and that the sound is not at all the same.
But if you don't mind that, I don't really see why you wouldn't use IEMs. Though you could simply go to a store and ask to try a pair of over-ear headhpones around the €50 mark. A price like that should give you a good enough idea of the difference, and if you don't like headphones at that price point, I doubt more expensive ones would really make a difference.
Trying out more expensive headphones is a bit of an unfair competition. Of course you can make anything sound better if you just keep throwing money at it.

It'd be like trying a €1400 office chair just to see if you like a swivel chair or not.
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>>55151528
>>55154470
I personally own a K553 (basically same as the K550) and the K550 sounds pretty good for you, but some advice you should know:

The K55X headphones are notorious for having sealing issues on people with small heads, due to how huge the earpads are. If you can't get a good seal, they basically have no bass and sound like shit, it's likely the reason why a lot of reviews on them are mixed. It's best to buy them from a place with a good return policy if possible.
The ear pads are Princess Leia buns when worn (pic related). Might feel a bit goofy for some when they wear them out in public, but it's up to you. They're one of my favorite looking headphones imo.
If you're gonna be using them in public you might want the K551 instead. They have a detachable cable which will allow you to buy a shorter cable suitable for more portable use.
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>>55153812
AKG K271/272 HD
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>>55154760
forgot pic
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>>55154760
Oh my bad the K551 don't have a replaceable cable. I thought for sure they did, I must of been thinking of something else.
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>>55143689
>Budget
under 50 euros
>location
netherlands
>source
android phone
>IEM
>comfort
Highest priority, have to stay in and fit
>preferred music
>>55152812

I'm looking for a set of decent, non 5 euro in ear iem's to use while in bed, about to sleep, walking around the house and at college. Comfort is pretty much the only requirment, as long as the sound quality isnt absolute shit
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>>55155224
>>>>55153812
*
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>>55155224
Have you considered using the ones that came with your phone?
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>>55155274
They broke pretty quickly
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>>55155288
Damn. Try to keep to keep the cost low if you break them.
And maybe you can get a bunch of those super cheap ones at like Blokker or Action or similar.
There's not much of a difference in quality, but you'll at least have an extra pair in your bag, one at home and there's always one ready in case it breaks.
Which, not saying it's your fault.. but you did say yours broke pretty quickly.
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>>55155346
Alright, I always assumed it was just the quality which is why they break so quickly, but it's probably just the way I treat them. I'll stockpile a shit tonne
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>>55155395
They're almost all bad quality. But you can try to let your headphones survive longer by not putting your phone in your jeans when having your headphones plugged in. There's a constant wiggling and a bit of pressure on the plug of the headphones themselves when doing that.
If you're carrying a purse or a messenger bag, you can quite easily put your phone in a pocket of the bag instead. I have no experience with backpacks, but I'm sure you can figure out something.
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Tascam TH-02 here
for $17 this is great
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>>55155791
With HM5 pads? I have small ears and I've owned my TH-02s for a year without pads. I got my HM5 pads a while ago and they're worth it.
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Location: Canada
Price range: 80$-110$
Genres: Glam rock,disco,eurobeat,70's/80's pop and funk.
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>>55146874
I don't like the HD598 but I fucking love the HD600.

HD598 is a bit muffled and its impedance swing doesn't help either.
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On the topic of K702, they're a bit wonky in their response. I don't like the K7XX and K712 because they're too warm for my tastes, audiophiles can say whatever they wish, but those are warm headphones, and the warmth masks many of the high frequency problems on them (upper midrange and lower treble peaks) which is why I think they're generally received as being better. The K7XX and K712 have newer pads which seal better.

The K702 has AKG's older pads that aren't known for sealing well, when they don't seal well the bass response is completely fucking nil, initially I found them extremely fatiguing to listen to when I got them. I presume this is due to the high frequency peaks, I had an old AD700 which lacked bass but was nowhere this painful to listen to.

Anyway, I removed the K702's pads and placed them under some of my heavy university text for about 5 days. After placing them back on the headphone, the bass was there. They sounded satisfying afterwards, but still, I found them quite bright and annoying at times.

It's a weird type of sound, the sub-bass is present, albeit slightly weak, the mid-bass is warm, the lower midrange is also a bit boosted, the upper midrange around 2kHz is quite strong, around 4kHz seems recessed and 7kHz seems boosted. Hence my claim of them being wonky. It's a combination of warm, muffled and bright.

They aren't neutral in my opinion, and A/Bing them with the MDR-V6, the latter was far more neutral, clearer and more pleasing to listen to.

I think people perceive it as having a wide soundstage is due to the recession around 4kHz but I think I can be wrong regarding this. They do sound a bit distant compared to my HD600 and DT880.

Oh and mine was made in China, not that it changes anything.
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Just ordered these.
I like how they look, so I didn't read a single review or description.
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>>55143689
Testing the hd600's right now lads, They're going back to amazon tomorrow if i don't like them enough. They're good but i'm not sure if they will replace the k712's yet.
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>>55156827
Why would you want to replace your k712 with the hd600?
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Can someone tell me what are difference between sennheisers hd201 and hd202 in terms of sound quality and material/build quality?
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>>55156977
Uhu. HD201 is the over-ear, slightly more comfortable one.
The HD202 is the on-ear, slightly more compact and a teensy bit more stylish one.

I think the HD202 has slightly better hardware, but they're both in the same budget. It's more like the HD202 was designed as an on-the-go variant.

So in short: sound quality and material/build quality are the same, but HD201 is more for seated use, and HD202 could be an option for travelling.
Though I must say it's not super comfortable to wear those 202's for more than an hour.
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>>55156913
I only want one headphone and if the hd600's sound better to me ill sell the k712's. I'm actually hoping that I prefer my k712's by the end of the night so I can just send the 600's back to amazon for free. The 600's have been tempting me for some time so my end game is going to be one or the other. So far both are brilliant and quite similar imo.
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>>55157094
I used to have have 201, and was pretty satisfied with isolation and sound quality, but foam started to detach making lot of mess. After some time i throw them away. Now i need to get some headphones and i think of them anyway. Is there a way to change this parts or improve its lifetime?
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>>55157167
The HD202 have the same issue I believe.. Many headphones do, really. because it's a thin layer of.. plastic or something, over the foam.
But I do think you can replace those earpads on the HD201. Like, you can rip them off and put on replacement pads.

At any rate, if you are used to the HD201 then I really wouldn't get the HD202. It's less comfortable, while at around the same price I think.
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>>55156737
aaaaaaaaaaaaautism
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>>55157094
>I think the HD202 has slightly better hardware
what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>55157167
Yep, you'll be looking for Sennheiser part number 534440 for the replacement pads. It's velour, so it won't break or flake, just gets dusty after a while!
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>>55157323
About the drivers. I remember them being newer and reading the drivers were new ones. That's why I said "I think"
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>>55157341
turns out i threw away a good headphones year ago i could just repair, thank you
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>>55157370
should've said drivers to begin with
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>>55157382
It's become a habit as a teacher: as soon as I thin think a less important detail to the listener can be confusing or distracting, I try to keep the attention on the actual matter. That way you teach what you want to teach, and what they want to get taught.
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>>55155929
anyone?
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>>55157483
You have provided no information but location, price and genres.
Nothing like IEM, over-/on-ear, etc.
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>Budget
£60 - £140
>Location
Britbongland
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Closed over ear cans
>Comfort level
For prolonged use, around 3-5 hours at a time

I essentially need something I can wear at work that won't leak sound, and is relatively comfy.

Currently I'm using a pair of over-ear monoprices that I've used for quite a while. They're okay but kind of uncomfortable after a little while.

I've been looking at both the sony MDR-7506, are there any others that I should look into, or does anyone have any firsthand experience with them?
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>>55157934
*both the sony MRD-7506 and the Beyerdynamic DT 770
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>>55157934
There's the Audiotechnica ... ATH-M50X which is at the top of your budget, but worth a look. There's also the ATH-M40X, which is quite a bit cheaper, and still sounds great. And for even less there's the M30X. Same brand.
There's also the Sony MDR-100AAP, which should be a bit less expensive the M50X, but a bit more than the M40X. Its main selling points are general listening, design and weight.

Try to listen to them before purchasing anything.
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>>55158467
Thanks anon, I'll take a look.

Listening to them is probably going to be quite difficult since there's no real specialist sound stores around here, but I'll try and weigh up the pros and cons anyway.
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>>55152266
>4000USD
but why
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>>55158621
Then try reading reviews made by people who have also written reviews about other headphones suggested. And read more than one review per headphone.
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>>55148377
Seconded.
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bought a parrot zik 2 for 135€, is it ok?
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My Sandisk Sansa clip plus just broke. Is there anything better?
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>>55160012
What about it did you like most?
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>>55160086
Vorbis, size, microsd.
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>>55160118
Most any Android phone deals with two of the three..
What I'm trying to say is that there's not really much improvement in the portable audio area. Phone audio has improved quite a bit though. Android 5.0+ supports Opus too, I think.
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>>55160170
What phone then? I had Nexus 4 before the screen broke, but it's too old to replace, so I am searching. Anything ~5 inches and with a lot of space and clean android? I would Nexus 5x, but it's so big.
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>Budget
80 euro
>Location
Europe
>Source
Xonar DX
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
I think open would be better for me because i don't really plan to use them outside.
>Comfort level
Comfortable would be nice
>Preferred music
Mostly EDM (most of it is glitch hop), rarely Metal/Rock
>Past headphones
Pioneer SE-M531
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>>55160252
Nexus 5X is pretty small actually. A lot lighter than the iPhone 3GS and below, smaller too. In volume, that is.
Feels a bit flimsy almost.

Guys over at spg, smartphone general, or something like that should know better. Or csg, for chinaphones. The Xiaomi ones have near infinite software support, it seems like. I think they updated one of their first phones 2 days ago.
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Are the big three guaranteed to last forever as long as they aren't abused?
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>>55160365
Yes
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>>55160365
No
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>>55160434
What on earth did someone try to do there?
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>Budget
As low as possible to have decent enough quality. Up to $150 total until next payday.
>Location
Bumfuck nowhere, ebayland
>Source
Wolfson/Exynos phone or ADI SoundMax laptop, portable amp
>Preferred type of headphone
Circumaural, bonus points for "DJ" rotation
>Open or closed
Bpoth, want to figure out what I want
>Comfort level
High
>Preferred tonal balance
V without sharp sibilant peaks or bass rolloff
>Preferred music
All? None? Good? Complex with too many instruments and vocals simultaneously. Can I post examples instead?
>Past headphones
Extensively, only SHE3590

In other words, what is the SHE3590 of open and closed cans?
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>>55160733
Looks like someone took a soldering iron to it.
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>>55160852
HD598

>"DJ" rotation
As far as I know that's a feature only with on-ear/supra-aural headphones.
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>>55161031
Zalman 5.1 (most likely shit, also requires true 5.1 output) and Sennheiser PC 330 (headset) have it.
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>>55161073
Allow me to rephrase.
>As far as I know that is not a feature on any decent over-ear headphones.
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Magni 2 basic or O2 Limited edition (the one with the ac and the dac input on the back)
the O2 is €5 cheaper
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>>55157112
They sound very different despite being the same type of design (open dynamic). K712 is warmer (has more bass), HD600 is more neutral.

>>55160434
Nice cherry picking, faggot.

>>55160365
Yes, I've owned all three, they are very durable headphones. If you treat them like shit, they'll break like anything does.

>>55160852
I've got a SHE3590, impossible to get that sub-bass heavy sound with open headphones for sure. Definitely something closed, maybe I'll get back to you later with a response.
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>>55161398
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>>55157483
Closed + noise cancellation and what I'm mostly looking for: a removable cable, even if it's proprietary.
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>>55161451
Go on. I've seen this image 100 times on this cancerous general because permavirgin faggots like yourself got nothing productive to do.

Each one of the big three is durable, I fucking own all. Now go kill yourself for being a fanboy you poorfaggot.
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>>55161482
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>>55161467
meant for
>>55157499
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>>55161398

Are the big 3 the HD600, k702 and DT880 600ohms?
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>>55161508
HE400S, Fidelio X2, DT 880
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>>55161508
>Are the big 3 the HD600, k702 and DT880 600ohms?
HD600, K702 (replaced the K/Q701) and the DT880 (250 or 600).
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>>55161587
DT880 600 Ohm >>>>>> DT880 250 Ohm
Stop supporting poverty.
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>>55161508
K701, DT880 and HD650.

They were known as the big three because they were the dynamic flagships of AKG, Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser. Their flagship status have been replaced by newer headphones but they are still known as the big three and are commonly recommended.

Not that the HD600 is considered as part of the big three and is the more neutral older brother to the HD650. K701's other variants like K7XX and K702 are considered part of the big three as well. DT880 comes in three impedance variants.
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>>55161635
> HD650
No dude, it's the HD600. HD650 is more expensive and it's worse.
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>>55161620
Is the difference audible or are you just saying one is better merely because it is more expensive?
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>>55161668
It's the HD650, I agree that the HD600 is better but Sennheiser intentionally designed the HD650 as a less bright HD600 because many found the HD600 too bright. And I've been around long enough since the mid 2000s when the big three was coined.
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>>55161677
No, I'm saying that DT880 600 Ohm is the best version because most graphs tell this.
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>>55161750
There's no audible difference but because of some graphs they are better? Thank you for providing the classic example of the problem with hardcore objectivists.
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HD600 for 285 € (new), or DT880 600 Ohm for 263 € (new)? Can the Fiio E10K power them?
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>>55160365
>>55161398
>>55161508
>>55161635
>>55161668
>>55161701
why are you so obsessed with an outdated head-fi meme?
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>>55161781
HD600, the DT880 600 ohm is less efficient and I wouldn't recommend the E10K for it.

HD600 is fine with the E10K.
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>>55161769
Grab Goldenears graphs and compare them yourself. It looks like there's barely any difference between the 250 Ohm and the 32 version, whereas there should be quite an audible difference between these versions and the 600 Ohm version.
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>>55161791
There hasn't really been better open headphones around the same price range that tries to be neutral.

The HE400S is complete garbage despite how popular it has become and the X2 is too bassy and sounds too colored.
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>>55161802
>there should be
Do you even know when human perception can distinguish a difference at on a graph?
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>>55161813
>around the same price range
why is price important?
>that tries to be neutral.
DT 880 and whatever AKG headphone people consider to be a part of the big three are bright
>HE400S
the built quality is garbage. the stock response is better than the AKGs and beyers and with the improved seal from focus pads, it's probably better than HD 600 too.
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>>55161892
Price is important because current flagships are quite overpriced as of now (I blame the HD800 meme).

DT880 and K702 are bright indeed, but that's compared to absolute neutrality, the DT880 and K702 somewhat have a warm bass response.

HE400S build was alright, the sound is less neutral than the big three and quite disappointing in the high frequencies where it sounds muffled.
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got a pair of hd558s coming in the mail, did i fall for a meme or are they actually good for under 100?
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>>55161958
>but that's compared to absolute neutrality
accuracy? i thought you were talking about the tonal balance.
>HE400S build was alright
it's quite awful. the amount of complaints has exploded lately.
>the sound is less neutral than the big three
definitely more accurate the K702.
>disappointing in the high frequencies where it sounds muffled.
sounds like you've been listening to a bad unit.
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>>55162150

There good if you want neutral
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>HD201
Im not convinced to their build quality and durability. Is there something for similar price with good isolation? I dont want in-ears ones. They does not seem to be comfortable and good for health.
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Just orderd an AKG Q 701. Do I need a DAC for this thing? If so, where do I start? Plugging this straight into the audio jack on YM PC is going to bottleneck me if I don't get one right?
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I once heard about really good chinese in ear headphones with neutral sound. They were mentioned in a pastebin guide. Does anybody know about them?
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>>55162209
>Just orderd an AKG Q 701. Do I need a DAC for this thing?
DAC? Maybe if your source sucks. But you will probably need an amp.
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$50
US
S6 and Laptop
Over-ear
Closed
Comfy; Returning the Sennheiser Momentum since my ears are dying after about an hour use.
V-Shaped
Electronic, Alternative, Indie
Sennheiser Momentum, Sony MDR V6
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>>55162902
Whoops meant $250
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>>55162902
MSR7
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>>55163065
>MSR7
are these like an upgraded version of the m50s?
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>>55163092
http://audio46.com/audio-technica-ath-msr7-review-m50x-posh-edition/
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>>55156827
Damn, I think i'm keeping the 600's and selling the 712's :(. It's just too hard to criticize the sound, they're brilliant.
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>>55156737
Which is your favorite between the k702, hd600, and dt880?
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>>55163140
have you tried the k702?
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I usually use Beyer Dynamic DT990 Pro (250 Ω) and I really love them. Anyway, at the place I'm working at it's kind of obligatory to use headphones at your work place to signify that you are working. It's weird, but I've been dragging my 990 pros to work every day. Thing is, I don't really want to continue to do that. Reasons are that they are quite expensive (for me at least) and they are open, so my coworkers can listen to my music all the time. They said that they don't really mind, but still, I kind of want to have a separate pair of closed over ears to keep at work (so not that expensive).

TL;DR: I'm looking for closed over ears at around 50 EUR. Basically, the cheaper the better, but they should offer reasonable quality. I would pay 60 or 70 EUR if it's worth it.
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>>55163259
Yes, they were my first real set of real headphones and they're great, however they're too bright and flat for me. The hd600's seem like a perfect middle ground between the 702's and the 712's.
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What pads should i use to replace the stock ones one my ATH-M50x?

https://www.amazon.com/Shure-HPAEC940-Replacement-Velour-Headphones/dp/B005OM06RG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
>or
https://www.amazon.com/Brainwavz-Velor-Memory-Replacements-Earpads/dp/B00MFDX4YO/ref=sr_1_cc_2?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1466377148&sr=1-2-catcorr&keywords=Brainwavz+HM5+pads
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>>55163367
Interesting, things. I'm contemplating the same choices now. part of me thinks the only way is to just slowly accumulate shit off ebay, and also slowly sell it off
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>>55156788
They look like futuristic sex toys.

Pls post review when they arrive.
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>>55156977
What the other anon said about on-ear versus over-ear, plus that the 202 has better bass extension, slightly less harmonic distortion, and more clamping force (although the headband can be stretched easily).

Personally, I hated the sound signature of the 201, but I used the 202 for about four years with no complaints.
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>>55143794
What dac?
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>Budget
500 euros
>Location
Europe
>Source
Schiit stack
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Don't really care
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or V-shaped
>Past headphones
HD598, Momentum, HE-400i
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>>55164366
EQ your HE400i
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>Budget
1000USD
>Location
Australia
>Source
Dacmagic100 -> Gustard H10
>Preferred type of headphone
Open
>Comfort level
Dont give a shit
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral with warm tilt no rolled off bass
>Past headphones
HD600 Fostex THx00
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>>55164525
LCD-2
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>>55164573
seconding this rec tbqh senpai
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>>55164573
the only thing that puts me off the lcd-2 is the recent findings of audeze cutting corners and the fact that they refresh them every 5 minutes.
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do i have any reason to update from sansa clip zip and soundmagic e10s eq'd to perfection?
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>>55164754
consider Oppo PM-2 instead then

>>55164781
better comfort, better build quality
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>>55164863
>better comfort, better build quality
such as?
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>>55164879
don't know shit about IEMs, sorry.
if you're satisfied with the comfort and they haven't broken down yet, you don't have a reason to upgrade.
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Vsonic gr07 or rha MA 750 on the ~200cad price range?
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>>55164905
I use them maybe 6hrs/week to begin with so I guess I have no real reason at the moment
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>Budget
~150 CAD flexible
>Location
Canada
>Source
ipod touch, laptop, can buy a better source too if needed
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
N/A
>Comfort level
dont think iems can be uncomfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
no clue
>Preferred music
I listen to Of montreal, Queens of the Stone Age, Radiohead, Tame Impala, Bjork, basically any sort of rock
>Past headphones
have the super lux 666b, 681 and i have the xiaomi pistons 2
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Best place to buy Fiio?
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>Budget
$100
>Location
US
>Source
MacBook, Phone
>Preferred type
IEM
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral with good detail and airiness
>Past headphones
Nvx xpt100, brainwavz hm3, brainwavz Delta, piston 3, dunu tridents

Xpt100s are my favorite headphones, and brainwavz Delta are my favorite iems. I'm looking for an upgrade to the Delta's but with more detail and a more open sound. Note that mids are my favorite part of the sound, so recessed mids are not my thing.

I've been looking at the ostry kc06a, fiio ex1/Titan 1, hifiman re-400, and vsonic gr07
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>>55165227
With a budget at a $100, why not stick with the XPT100?
Considering you're typing from a $1400 laptop, you might as well go for the Philips X2, since that's the only headphones so far, together with its predecessor, that can surpass the design side of.. well, you know, actually getting a Macbook Core M.
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>>55165289
Xpts are great over ear headphones, but I'm looking for iems
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>>55163367
>>55163140
>>55156827

STATUS UPDATE PLOX
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>>55162203

TASCAM TH-02 are usually recommended. However, apparantly you need hm5 pads to make them comfortable which will double the price.
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>>55144145
I do use lg hbs-780s regularly for podcasts, but not as satisfying with music
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Anyone have any opinions on the SMSL Idol? I'm looking for a good phone dac/amp and the Audioquest Dragonfly red is out of my price range(Black isn't worth it to me.) That or any other dac/amps that are good for phones.
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>>55165227
HF5. Re-400 and GR07 is going more towards the v-shape than airy neutral. If you want something more along those lines you should be looking at the MA750.
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>>55143689
How bad do you think this will sound:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/item/182102096242

I am going to use it for listening to games on my steam link. I am guessing I will need an AMP to use it with my DT 770s.
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>everyone says the headphone out of the S7 sounds like shit
>I buy a dragonfly black and pop in some flac
>mfw it sounds the same out of my FLC8s and Fidelio X2's

fuck head-fi
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>>55166629
>NFC
Uh wut?
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>>55166671
It uses bluetooth but apparently it can initiate the bluetooth connection by using NFC. It is for people that don't like looking for the right bluetooth device to pair to I assume. I won't be using that feature.
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