Why the fuck are camera's so expensive? I just want something decently better than my phone camera, which is like 5MP and horrible
Is it just worth it buying like a used One Plus One or something for an upgraded phone and decent camera?
Any 70$ compact digital will thrash those smartphone 'cameras'
>>55119724
Because you're a silly cuckold who doesn't understand lenses.
https://www.amazon.com/Ricoh-GR-DIGITAL-Digital-Camera/dp/B002W6Z80C/ref=sr_1_3?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1466150320&sr=1-3&keywords=Ricoh+GR
Just buy this instead and fuck off.
>>55119752
These look fine
http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/oneplus-one-1244307/review/6
>>55119764
There's like one offer for 300 bucks or something
>cameras
>expensive
There's a shitload of cheap used SLRs out there. Just scan the prints if you want them in digital form.
>>55119809
I wouldn't want to deal with physical film at all man
>>55119831
then buy a used dslr body and some lens
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T1i-EOS-500D-15-1-MP-Digital-SLR-Camera-w-Canon-18-55mm-Lens-/231980495239?hash=item36031d7187:g:Vo4AAOSwc1FXYbcQ
>>55119752
Not necessarily. Cheap compact cameras are absolute shit, I get way better image quality from my s6 than some of the cheapo compacts i've tried.
>>55119831
If you just want to do photography, get like a 500d or a 5xxx nikon. d90 is also great. Kit lens is shit, get some old m42 primes (jupiter 135mm 3.5 is amazing and you can get it for 10 bucks, and there are many many other nice lenses). Second hand dslr body of course. They very rarely break.
>>55119831
Lazy impure nigger detected
>>55119957
hipster faggot detected.
>>55119764
>Links a $340 10mp camera
>Tfw my $300 smart phone has a 13MP camera
>>55119977
Fuk u niggaaaa
>>55119981
>muh mpx
>>55119957
>being a snobby film bitch
I doubt you take even decent exposures with your 30 year old piece of shit. Get with the convenience of the times, hipster.
>>55120053
Leave my F2 out of this you smarmy cunt
>>55119752
cheap point-n-shoots use the exact same sensors as smartphones. They just have a crappy zoom lens bolted to them, instead of a tiny plastic ~28mm equivalent prime.
>>55119953
>nikon
>m42
enjoy your lack of infinity focus
>>55119724
It's the lenses+Sensor+Proprietary Controller each company makes.
Because it costs money to teach children that apostrophes don't belong in plurals.
You fucking illiterate faggot.
>>55119981
My camera has 8mp. Pic related.
>>55120882
Nvmd, turns out it has 12.
>>55120882
>>55120899
One more photo.
Olympus EPL1 with a kit lens. Goes for maybe 150€ used on ebay. What's your excuse?
>>55120909
those are some depressing looking commie blocks you live in
>>55119724
I honestly wish they would just make a cheap point and shoot with fixed focal length and a decent sensor. I don't want android on it, I don't want instant facebook share bullshit, wifi, they can even leave out the fucking display for all I care. Just give me decent optics + decent sensor for a reasonable price.
There are some cameras by Fujifilm that are about what I'm looking for, but they are like 1000 USD, it's insane.
>>55120922
>Japan
>Commie
>>55119981
>what is sensor size
>what is an aperture
>what is a lens
>how do I shot web
>>55119957
are there pure niggers?
>>55120909
>cancerous chromatic aberration everywhere
>>55120994
say that to my lens and not on the internet and see what happens
>>55121003
may i pose for your lens?
>have good camera
>except its absolute dogshit in lowlight
>>55121009
No. Only technology and 日本の風景
>>55121026
you're missing out fun
>>55119724
Nikon d3300. Try it, anon. Best entry-level dslr in the mrket rn.
>>55120909
>kit lens
No wonder why that photo looks so fucking shit.
>>55119724
Because You're not giving Pentax a chance. They have god tier equipment for nearly half the price of Canon/Nikon/Sony competition. They're the only non Nipponjew photography company out there.
>"camera's"
kill yourself
>>55119809
I wouldn't want to deal with physical film at all man >>55119953
>If you just want to do photography,
I just need something better than my shitty phone camera that can also hopefully do 1080p video of decent quality
but honestly the cellphone seems like a decently good idea just to upgrade everything
if you don't shoot fast moving objects
5yo camera will be ok
>>55124095
NIGGER I FUCKING A FUCKING DIGITAL SLR WITH A LENS FOR YOU
>>55119916
>>55119916
>>55126325
I can't purchase from ebay, they don't accept my debit card
>>55126467
Where are you from
>>55126507
US/Master Card/Credit Union
>>55126556
>>55126556
You should be able to pay with a master card,would probably even help to make a paypal account
>>55126644
Would rather not trust pay pal with my info, plus it'd be annoying to always have to transfer funds
I don't need anything too great, just decent, currently trying to find a One Plus One on the relatively cheap but they seem to have made very few of the original
>>55126669
check pawn shops and craigslist in your area then, if not just go with what you were gonna go with
>>55126669
>I don't need anything too great, just decent
ffs just find a used electronics store locally and buy a used dslr/compact camera
literally *anything* modern will be better than a phone camera, shrinking the sensor and more importantly shrinking the lens size inherently reduces maximum quality obtainable
>>55119724
second hand market.
i got a Sony A3000 with aftermarket lense (forgot model specification) for 180€ used which both cost about 350€
it shoots miles better than any smartphone will in the next decade
>>55119752
Wrong, sir. Wrong.
>>55126669
just pay with paypal using your debit, dont need to make an account
Anyone have that link to that kickstarter camera that had literally like 40 difference lenses of different sizes on it?
>>55126753
Of course, gotta think about it and look around, but there's also the convenience factor
>>55126669
You can just pay through Paypal with your debit card, don't have to transfer funds into it.
1. D3300 refurb from Nikon
2. Tamron 18-200mm VC
3. Have fun
>>55119981
delet this
I still use a 4MP canon camera from many years ago and all my pictures are excellent.
Canon S40.
>>55126975
>>55119724
>expensive
Only one answer: market segmentation.
Back in the 80's Japanese optical companies discovered it was cheaper making good quality lenses for toys and professional cameras instead of multiple production lines where som were designed to make substandard lenses.
So they made many products with great lenses but at very different prices. Financially speaking this was a really clever move.
So the company I used to work for saved a lot of money by buying ... Japanese toy cameras and taking them apart for their lenses only.
>>55127079
>people actually believed that this kind of cameralense alignment does make sense
>>55127319
The reason it's like that is because of how everything lines up inside. It actually makes a lot of sense even if it does look weird.
>>55119724
Because you're buying a computer coupled with precision mechanisms and optics all contained in a box that fits in your hand.
Based almost entirely on the light that comes through a 1" opening, it analyzes the situation to reproduce the proper colors, figures out the correct exposure, makes an educated guess to what it is you're taking a picture of and converts these calculations into mechanical motion to drive the lens mechanisms into the right setting. All that within a split second. Plus with a DSLR, it does all this without obstructing your view of the scene; the light you see in the eyepiece is the same light that comes in through the lens.
>>55119724
There are so many cheap, good, used DSLRs it's ridiculous.
Get something with 10-12 MP or higher.
And get some GOOD glass. Note that good does not necessarily equal expensive.
