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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", ultraportable
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>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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http://www.dankpads.com
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ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
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ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
first for t430u mustard race
first for xfce
>>55046264
and so xfce was forced into second place again
>>55046264
>T430u
Been wanting a T431s and trackpad swapping
>>55046164
I would go with xfce or gnome, it depends on what you're going for.
>>55046135
Ah I see
>>55046234
Seriously considering getting an (used) X1 Carbon. I currently have a X240. Should I or shouldn't I?
Is the lenovo compact keyboard worth getting? I really like the new thinkpad keyboards but i hear bad stuff about the lenovo compact. Is there anyone who have this keyboard and can tell me if it feels like the new thinkpad keyboards?
>>55047170
The only modern Lenovo keyboard getting is the Preferred Pro KB that's hardly changed from the IBM days
Hey guys, just wondering if this network card works with a X220: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/wireless-n-dual-band-bluetooth-40-m2-ngff-combo-card
Looking to get an X230 soon, any major arguments for going for an i5 over an i7 (aside from battery life)?
>>55047370
If your system pre-dates December of 2013 this card is not compatible with your system.
>>55047198
But i don't really like big bulky key caps. I like the small slim keys the thinkpads and idalpads use. I slide my fingers very often on the keyboard so they feel perfect.
>>55047468
Why did you ask, you know the opinion here.
>>55047494
I was asking if the lenovo compact keyboard was good. I was not asking about another keyboard.
Guys, I have a 2006 era T60 that I use for browsing occasionally. I've got a spare 120 GB SSD sitting around. Is it worth throwing it into the T60 given its SATA limitations and just general old-ness? If you guys think it is I might consider getting the max 3 GB of RAM and an Ultrabay too so I can keep whatever is on the old slow HDD accessible.
>>55047586
Yes, the decreased latency of an SSD can be seen even if you're running SATA revision 1.
>>55047586
Yes, even on SATA I an SSD makes a huge improvement over an HDD. If you do a Frankenpad, you'll get access to SATA II speeds.
>>55046448
I would say no.
I just bought an x220 with a 9cell and currently prefer it to my x1.
any laptop out there that i can code on for hours outdoors? swapping replacement batteries with confirmed hibernation to keep the session in linux would be best.
i need something that works on a sunny beach (under an umbrella if need be) and and can also survive being tossed into sand (not that i plan to do that) pics apreciated
>>55047627
>>55047639
Thanks. I have an SSD for my OS on my desktop so I'm familiar with how great they are, just wondering how much I should invest into this T60.
Unfortunately the display is the 1024x768 version which I think means it's the smaller 14.1" screen if I remember correctly. All of the Frankenpad instructions I've seen suggest using a 15" T60 as a base.
This was posted today.
Opinions? Looks good just price is a tad high.
>>55047987
Yea. You can get a comparable one for under $300 if you get lucky on ebay.
>>55047987
400 bux is a shitload, you want to spend like 250 at most for a really good condish X220.
>>55047876
Not necessarily, there were 1024x768 15" T60 models. How wide is the keyboard bezel? 15" models have around a 1-inch bezel, 14" models are much thinner, less than half the size.
You can still use it as a basis for a Frankenpad anyway, you just won't get the benefit of the sweet Flexview screen.
>>55048048
Alright thanks. The bezel is like half an inch, maybe less than that so I think it is the smaller one but that makes sense about it still being able to use the T61 mobo.
I may just put the SSD in first and see how much better it performs before deciding on if I even need that much more power.
>>55048029
>>55048031
400 cad
Anyone have any experience with Ultrabay batteries? I know they're generally considered to be not worth the money and that they aren't implemented very well, but here's the use case I have in mind:
>main battery gets close to dead
>put in ultrabay battery
>hotswap main battery
>remove ultrabay battery
>keep working
Will this work or will the system just shut down when the main battery is removed regardless of what's in the Ultrabay?
>>55048103
Nevermind, 313 burgerbux is a little high, but that is a nice X220, plus I don't know if prices are high over there.
>>55048103
Looking on ebay.ca, thats a good price if you include the ssd. They seem to go for $360cad with the occasional one selling for around $245cad.
http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_odkw=thinkpad+t420&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xthinkpad+t420+nvidia+1600x900.TRS0&_nkw=thinkpad+t420+nvidia+1600x900&_sacat=0
>>55047663
I got a x220t that I use for drawing while I sit on my dock. I see fine.
Battery's old and it is about 80% capacity and lasts for a little over 3 hours, smaller sized one.
>>55047987
I bought a T430 (refurbished) for $420 from Canada Computers with 1 year warranty. Using it right now. (came with a 240gb ssd I believe and 4gb ram)
wouldn't recommend using a quad core in a T420 as it seemed to kill the system board, so i sold it and got a 2540m and a new system board.
>>55048883
[funny weed joke]
>>55048121
too small a capacity for the price, you're better off getting a slice battery.
>>55048437
How accurate is the x220t? Is it comparable an average wacom? I have no experience using something like this. Lets say I wanted to hand write notes in my math class, would the 220t be effective? Or learn to draw digitally? Have you tried Osu! on it?
>>55048958
Slice battery isn't available for my Thinkpad. I know their capacity sucks, that's why I'd only be using it for a couple minutes at a time to hotswap the main battery. I just want to know if what I want to do is even possible.
>>55047987
>$400
Way too expensive.
I got a similar one for $160
So /g/. This will be a redundant question but for me its worth it.
I'll buy a laptop in the next hour. Mainly for writing, browsing and having a computer wherever I travel.
I want to spent up to 160$
Whats the best bang for my buck?
How are the batterys?
>>55049370
Oops, one big detail.
I plan on cutting/(lightly)editing videos on it too.
>>55048976
Accuracy's fine. The low pressure level limits how many "zones" your brush has from the force you're pressing on the screen with.
I'm just a hobbyist with my drawing tablet, and I'd say it feels alright. The edges on this model are iffy, but I don't have the canvas full screen so I never have to deal with them.
Haven't tried Osu, Krita worked fine out of the box on Xubuntu 15.04, even after upgrading to 15.10 no issues.
>>55049382
Get the T410 1440x900 display and nvidia graphics, that'll do it.
>>55049429
fuu dem specs are amazing. I can game dirt 2 on that mf for 160$. Dis shit is amaze mah niga
Have a cat for your hurdles
Probably a stupid question, but where can I download the drivers for the t420? The page on the lenovo website seems dead...
What should I expect to pay for a used/refurb T420 or X220 Tablet that I could be (almost) certain would arrive on time and would have no imperfections beyond anything clearly listed? Gonna be in the US for a couple weeks, wanna upgrade my portable shitposting solution. Is springing for an i7 worth it or would an i5 keep it cooler?
>>55049859
i5 for cooler shit. Just look on craigslist and expect around $200.
>>55049424
<3
That looks great. I'm never going to be able to decide what model dankpad to buy.
http://www.skinit.com/device-skins/laptop-skins/lenovo/lenovo-t420-skins
What do you guys think of these? Xsauce's carbonfiber looks great so maybe these will look okay too. They even have the carbon fiber one. cheaper to cut your own but still
>>55050433
Not a a big fan of pop culture shit on laptops but whatever floats your boat.
>own it since August 2015
>still looks brand new
I suspect this thing was never used at whatever american company it was before.
Couldn't been happier with my purchase. Thanks /g/
>>55050496
Jelly af of how non shiny that keyboard is. Not even shiny lid corners?
bought this bad boy today with 32gb of ram and an extra 2tb drive for $1700 open box/refurbished on ebay
>>55050512
Just a little bit, you have to look closely
Any advice on buying chargers and batteries off ebay/amazon for a newbie? I would like my house not to burn down.
>X60 tablet
>>55050531
What are you actually going to use 32 gb of ram for?
Anyone here have experience with the other thinkpad models besides the T and X? My priority is durability and reliability, but I'd like some of the more gimmicky features like a touchscreen, stylus, or flip-around screen.
>>55050531
> P series
> NVIDIA card
> chicklet keyboard
> $1700
>>55050676
adobe cc
>>55050531
>1700 dollars
That's like 30 of OP's recced thinkpads
>>55050799
>30
It's more like 300
got an x250 a few months ago and i love it. The track point is moving on its own. I know this is normal, but it seems to happen quite a bit and takes about 1 minute to re calibrate. Its really annoying. Anything i should know? Is it because i leave my finger on the track point?
>>55050799
It is crazy when you think about it like that but some people don't mind spending a lot of money on something they really want. To me $1700 is like 10 months of disposable income, to others it's an impulse purchase. I'd still go with the 5 maxed out t420's personally
What would you recommend for me to buy IBM or Lenovo, for less than 150 bucks, and something I can throw a SSD in and some more RAM.
>>55051187
x200
>tfw can't get dem craigslist prices because social anxiety
T60 bro here again.
What's the consensus on the wireless adapters in these thinkpads? Worth replacing if they start acting up? I keep dropping wireless even though my router is solid. Once the connection drops once, I'm unable to reconnect though the network utility still detects the presence of nearby routers. In order to reconnect I need slide the adapter's power off and on again. Running Xubuntu.
Goodnight /tpg/, hopefully my X220 gets here tomorrow.
>>55051373
jinx
>>55049114
I believe by default it discharges the ultrabay battery first. So, you'd have to discharge the main, install ultrabay, replace main, remove ultrabay.
>>55050683
My wife has a Yoga 11E. It's not for me since I will never own a laptop without a trackpoint, but it's made to take the abuse of middle-schoolers. There's a torture video on YT of it being run over by a car and other shit.
>>55051354
Make sure it isn't going into power save mode. You're using TLP, right? Check the config.
>>55052223
Thanks, I'll get back to you on that. I just installed a new SSD and figured I'd install the latest LTS Xubuntu on it while I was doing that and next see how it behaves. It was on 14.04 previously.
>>55050496
Very fine purchase anon, looks flawless.
Also, why the fuck are you not using adblock?
>>55049138
Oh god yeah no T420s go for around $150
>>55049370
T420 with dedicated graphics and I5 simple question
>>55049859
Pretty much never get an I7 on any older lenovos the thermals are already bad with I5
>>55052937
And here i was looking for a 2670qm to upgrade my 2520m T420.
fug
>>55052937
Define old
You know, I just have to say.
I finally have a laptop that I really enjoy. Picked up a T520, and I like it. After years of laptops that pissed me off for one reason or another, I really like this one.
Thanks /g/.
>>55053186
You should get a dock anon. Makes it even better.
So I recently got an X130e for free, and I was wondering what the general consensus was on it, since I did check the wiki and buyers guide, and didn't see anything on them.
>>55051354
The wireless cards in the T60 are overheating shit. Definitely recommended that you flash a BIOS with the WLAN whitelist removed and replace them with anything else.
would you trade t420 and 200$ for x240?
>>55047987
>HD+ upgrade
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the guy mean he did the FHD mod?
Is an i3 x220 worth looking at? I see a listing nearby for for $150 usd. 9 cell w/8gb ddr3.
>>55055058
No HD+ is 900p
>>55055563
I see, thank you
I'm enjoying my x220 but I'm just wondering why they wouldn't make it 16:10. The bezel on the top and bottom of the screen are so thick. Such wasted space.
>>55056486
That's everyone's gripe, Anon, 16:9 on the low end sucks balls.
>>55053779
I suspected as much. The thing has been trouble for me for a long time. Basically it seems to crash when trying to do something "intensive" like streaming 720p video, so I figured it was a heat issue.
I'll look for instructions on how to do what you suggested and look into a new adapter. They aren't that expensive.
Kind of a side issue, but I've also been reading up on possible upgrades for the CPU. Looks like I can theoretically swap out the Core Duo for a more powerful Core 2 Duo if my motherboard revision is the right kind. They're only like $30 anyway so it's not a big deal to upgrade it.
The problem is lshw just gave me back "revision: unavailable" or something like that for the motherboard. Maybe I'll have better luck putting my old HDD back in and using CPU-Z in Windows. A forum post from about 8 or 9 years ago suggested that almost all of the motherboards except for some very early ones should be able to accept Core 2s so hopefully I'm in luck.
Brehs, had my T60 for a while. It's got the 2Ghz processor and the IPS. There are a couple things left to maximize it. Replace battery ($70), upgrade RAM ($16), upgrade board to X1400 ($50) for a total of $136.
Pull trigger or is it time to move on and get an X220?
>>55057348
What resolution is your T60's display?
>>55057460
1400x1050
I'm also questioning whether the X1400 would be a noticeable upgrade over the X1300. Doubling the video RAM seems good, but I don't have any concrete information.
>>55047387
Better performance on the i7, but I doubt most people will be using a x230 for vigorous tasks. I'd say go with the i5, it has Intel hd 4000 so you can play older games without a problem.
>>55057554
15" IPS 1600x1200 gives me a bone senpai. You sure you can deal with a 12" 1366x768?
![WP_20160529_011[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mI1FGKO.jpg "WP_20160529_011[1].jpg")
>>55057494
>>55057460
Goddamnit I'm wrong. 15" IPS. 1600x1200 UXGA
Just fuck my shit up.
This was me, btw. So I'd be eating my past sins by buying that better board.
>>55057648
No I'm not sure. Also sorry about deleting all that, senpai.
>>55051163
Clean it out.
stupid fuck i bought my w530 from didn't treat her well
and my order of new nibs is taking so long to ship
>>55058491
I think I can see individual plastic molecules.
Godfuckingdammit
I can't flash this custom bios with linux and my x220 is being a bitch with installing XP on a USB drive.
>>55046411
ugh, recently installed the gnome DE. quickly replaced it with cinnamon
I know I might as well be using mint at this point but I don't like all the proprietary software mint ships with
>>55059123
>installing XP
Why?
Found an X220 with i5-2520M, 8GB RAM and 128GB SSD for $150. Do I buy it, /tpg/?
>>55059898
nah
>>55059898
No, that's a horrible deal. You should tell me who's selling it so I can personally deal with it
>>55058491
>not buying a new board
enjoy your cancer
>>55060068
>>55060044
I'll take that as a yes. Thanks anons.
>>55060163
It's a great deal, buy it and upgrade to a IPS screen if you want and maybe a bigger SSD
>order x220 off eBay
>delivered today
>open box
>recieved T530
>mfw
wtf guys
>>55060260
Contact the seller about it or sell the T530 since it's worth more
>>55060260
Keep it, sell it, buy two X220s.
Can you play some decent vidya on the T420 with Intel graphics? Are games like Portal 2 or Bioshock Infinite playable?
>>55060360
You can play it but it won't be pleasant
>>55059637
Because at time of posting I wasn't aware that HBCD has a mini XP on it.
Got that running, now I just need a good boot image
Anons plz help me find a nice image for when my X220 boots up, you know where the thinkpad logo pops up etc.
Are 3-4 hours accurate for the battery life of a t420 with browsing/programming?
>>55060331
Meh, I think I'll do this desu
Fuck I was really excited about getting an x220 today too
Bought the x220 and it's my daily driver. It replaced my desktop and I prefer linux now.
Fuck everything.
Is Windows 10 any better than 7 on x220?
Ok so I'm trying to decide between the x250 and gaybook air 2013,the x250 has a better keyboard,better battery life but a worse screen and is thicker. I have heard that you can install noobuntu on the air and that Linus uses it. Any reccomendations
>>55061867
You do realize where you are, correct?
>>55061867
you heard wrong.
>>55061867
X230 or X220
>>55061867
>worse screen
Is this a good deal?
>https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/sys/5631206526.html
>14.5" screen in a 13" body
>4k OLED screen
>1TB SSD
>gtx 1080m
ITS OVER THINKPADS ARE FINISHED
>>55062112
>good
Not really imhofampaidesu
>>55060816
OR
Should I just keep the t530? I mostly needed a laptop for school, and while I'm missing out on the portability of the x220 for taking it to/from class or the library, the added power and screen real estate of the t530 seems pretty nice for doing hw and working on music
Idk bros
>>55062213
>Everything soldered on and eventually ending up starring on the Rossman's channel for something stupid
How about no?
![1433902193853[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cMp5d9B.jpg "1433902193853[1].jpg")
>>55062213
>image.jaypeg
If you think either of those in any way compete with the market that Thinkpads currently cater to, I've got a nightclub in Orlando to sell you.
>>55062266
>le thinkpads are used by astronauts meme
>>55062295
>el astronauts are the only non-macfags strawmeme
>>55062343
I'm an aeronautics engineer and I use an mbp
>>55062370
And I'm a cock gobbling sissy who uses a Thinkpad. The point is they are different markets for different end users.
>holy shit you mean to tell me that ones interests, hobbies, or professions don't exclusively define ones computing needs, aesthetically or technically? WHOA
>>55062435
post ur dick and feet
>>55062450
I'm at work, senpai.
>chemical engineer, covered in steel toes, glue-stained denims, and safety glasses
>>55062450
>>55062435
seconding
>>55062213
>4k characters are too small, on a 14.5" screen, this will be an issue.
>Nvidiot, don't need a good card for a notebook anyway
>probably doesn't pass military test
>don't forget you'll need to pay for all of these things and an 1TB SSD is unneccesary
>>55062578
>4k characters are too small
Are you fucking trolling? It's called QHD for a reason
>>55062654
I'm not trolling, some software will render in a certain resolution, the characters in this software will be 4x as small.
characters are reported to be too small on a >20" display, imagine a 14.5" display.
pure cancer
I'm getting T420 from this site (polish): http://komp-net.pl/index.php?mod=shop&display=details&item_id=1025
It's basically i5 with 8Gb of RAM and 160Gb SSD for 1300 zloty = 300-400 USD, dunno. It's pretty nice price in Poland for thinkpad tho...
Is it a good deal? Or should I buy it somewhere else?
>can't buy from eBay, shipping is expensive
>>55052377
I disabled it to support 4chan. Ads are not intrusive
>>55062992
>he supports 4chan
I bet you kiss girls too fagzilla
Is the X40(s)/X41(s)/X60(s)/X61(s) still worth getting if I'm planning to put a Linux distro with M8 or XFCE on it?
>>55060096
i probably will, was giving the chiclet a go but without the backlight (i dont have one) it isnt worth it. right now i am focusing on setting up a server and dualbooting though, my keyboard is low priority
>>55063099
x61t is fine. x201t is better. x61 isnt worth it of not tablet imo. x60 and below is stupid to get for daily use desu unless you modernize the guts
>>55063099
I have a x61s and I use xfce. I haven't yet put a SSD into it, and it still boots quickly/just werks. I dunno about the x40/41, I have no experience with them, but I would be skeptical unless you are running a very lightweight distro, and they are hard to find and usually cost almost as much as the x60/61 anyway. You shouldn't be paying more than $100 for any of those, and you should only be paying close to that if it is in very good condition. I got mine in good condition with a dock for just under $70.
While the x61s is great for taking notes and doing other lightweight tasks, I don't use it for anything else. Outside of school, I don't use it much.
>>55063163
>>55063315
thanks for the advice, senpais!
>>55062213
Keyboard looks like it will be awful to type on senpai
which thinkpads are ones with less soldered parts?
which one of them is not to big?
How can I get my temps down on an x220 under Arch? When I try to play Factorio at almost minimum settings it gets up to like 95C...
I tried using cpupower and setting the max freq but it didn't seem to be making any difference
>>55054672
Possibly
>>55055407
I would do that for $150 if it had an I5
>>55054672
Depending on the t420's specs you could possibly buy another of the same for the $200...
>>55059898
Worth
is ac adapter replaceable in x220 or is it soldered?
>>55057348
>>55057658
Build the T601F. That screen deserves so much better than the stock T60 hardware.
>>55061614
Not using Linux
>>55064838
tutorial?
>>55063315
Would about 75 euro monies be okay for an X61?
If I can trust the pictures, it looks in pretty good condition
Belgian fag here
>>55065198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m74otZqd2Y
Don't even bother with Nvidia motherboards, even the later ones that don't kill themselves run hot as fuck and devour battery life. Get an Advanced Dock for eGPU if you want graphics performance.
>>55064531
bump
>>55065365
I think it's replaceable, but it's been a long time since I dove into my X220's guts. Check the Hardware Maintenance Manual.
>>55064136
Anyone?
>>55064136
Replace thermal paste
>>55062992
You're a good person. Enjoy your thinkpad anon.
Anyone have the X220 docking port schematic/pinout?
I tried googling but my google-fu is weak.
I didnt get a thinkpad because they are double the price here in germany. Why the shit?
>>55066175
because we won the war, Johanne
>>55066196
>that comfy thinkpad vibe
>>55064868
I was trying few Linux distros on my machine. They are shit for Office and video editing purposes.
>inb4 LibreOffice, such open source, such freedom, such broken and unusable pissing shit; also such broken OpenShot/ptivi (I didn't tested kdenlive tho)
>>55065437
Is 95C pretty normal for the amount of work factorio puts on it?
>>55066427
>removed trackpad sticker
good man
Anyone else ever lost utility of the left Fn- and Ctrl- and Alt- buttons but kept the function of the right Ctrl- and Alt- buttons?
Cannot figure this out, /gee/.
Why don't you poorfags ever buy the new models?
>>55066552
>aesthetics
>keyboards
>4:3
>this guy spends money unnecessarily
The thinklight on my t410 does not work, what should i look for to fix it?
>>55066427
>screenlets
when will they learn?
What's /g/'s opinion on the T450s? Anyone got experience with them?
Is it worth ~$30 to upgrade the cpu from a 1.86 GHz Core Duo to a 2.33 GHz Core 2 Duo? I realize they are both very old. I just want to be able to stream video on my old Thinkpad and the Core Duo struggles.
>>55059898
I won one for $150 Aussie bucks on the weekend with the same specs. Good to know I did the right thing
>>55065356
>T601F
Honestly, it took me a while to get functioning parts for everything in this T60, and some things /still/ don't work right (see >>55066531, also all update software stalls out).
I need to get everything 100% figured out on the 60 before adding another comp's guts to the mix.
But, I'm saving that video for later.
>>55066806
Is your T60's wireless adapter shit? Mine crashes under load. Wondering which one I should buy to replace the stock one.
>>55066552
Buying new is for idiots
>>>/r/thinkpad
>>55066427
All I can say is: at least you took the stickers off.
>>55066914
>I like sloppy seconds
>I don't know that new tech smell
>I wait as some random guy spends 3 years jizzing into a laptop's keyboard every few nights so I can finally use said laptop which I love so much
God I forgot how pathetic and poor this place is.
>>55066913
It is passable. I will eventually upgrade it if I can man up for it.
I'm so mad about these function buttons. I cannot dim my screen at all. Thinking about fresh installing. Again.
>>55067001
>posted from my windows 10 netbook
>>55067001
>getting cucked by the sales tax jew
learn2agorist
>>55066913
Intel 5100 or 5300 should be good
From this video
https://youtu.be/-m74otZqd2Y?t=6m25s
>>55067042
That's for the 61 board, do the better cards not require Middleton?
>>55067033
>everyone on 4chan is American
>implying I'm poor
So, don't you buy anything not used?
>>55067074
I was just being snarky, (we don't even have a national sales tax), and no, I don't buy everything used. But still, what's wrong with paying less for the same product?
Which distro works best with motherfucking Thinkpad T420
>>55067122
A laptop, especially a laptop, is not 'the same product' after 3 years or so of wear and tear.
>>55067151
It is in the case of my sl510. There's like one scratch on it but it runs like it's brand new.
>>55067142
Debian.
>>55067001
>I like overpaying for shitty hardware
>I don't know that battle-hardened veteran tech feel
>I wait as some random chink spends a month loading rootkits into a laptop's BIOS so I can finally use said laptop which I paid so much for
>>55066754
That will probably make a noticeable difference.
>>55066531
Bump. All "answers" I've found weren't even useful for the OP, much less me.
>>55066754
It's worth $30. Dunno if it's going to be enough for what you're trying to do with it, but it will be noticeably better than what you've got.
>>55067341
Unmute doesn't even work out of the box. Master stays muted even after pressing the mute toggle button.
NEXT
>>55067383
Mint if you don't want to work with anything
>>55067397
>dont wnt to work with anything
what
>>55067383
Since you don't want to troubleshoot, then just use W7.
I usually get a feel for a new computer using Lubuntu, though.
>>55067363
>>55067376
Pulled the trigger. Thanks bros. Picked up a new Atheros N adapter and 2 gigs of memory to bring me to the max 3 gb for that chipset. Along with the SSD I had lying around, these upgrades should breathe new life into this old T60. Can't wait to pop it open and clean out 10 years of my dust when the stuff gets here.
>>55067410
i dont wanna use windows 7. bad batery life
>>55067478
If you want battery life go with Debian. Just don't use a DE.
>>55067502
dont feel like going through the pain staking process of using just a WM tho. Debian so far isn't impressing me.
>>55067478
Learn how to troubleshoot, or learn how to tweak.
I stand by Lubuntu.
>>55067502
Use Xubuntu and stop being a silly bitch.
>>55067531
Xubuntu's a joke. Lubuntu is the choice if you're going to use a packaged distro for low power computers.
I found an X220 tablet for $150. I'm going to go check it out tomorrow, what should I look for?
>>55067564
>T420
>low power computer
Lubuntu is good for Pentium 4s and other real decrepit shit like that. Xubuntu is fine on Core 2 Duos. A Sandy Bridge i5 can handle any goddamn distro you can throw at it without breaking a sweat.
>>55047987
Price is a bit high but is also kinda justified since the panel upgrade. You might want to upgrade the SSD aswell if you don't have another workstation or a storage server.
>>55050496
Does the finger scanner get annoying? For some reason I think I'd find it annoying having it right where I normally put my palm to type.
>>55067611
anon asked for distro for battery life, are you retarded?
Is this a good deal?
It seems like its in great condition and has some decent specs.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/122014885318?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
>>55067611
Don't change the subject in defense of your laptop choice.
Lubuntu>Xubuntu if you're going to use a ubuntu for low power usage.
Debian if you get over your problem-solving-phobia.
>>55067679
Yes
>>55067462
You'll likely surprised with the result. It's still a capable machine for light mobile tasks. Don't forget to update your BIOS before you tear it down to swap the CPU (if you haven't already).
Also, I can't recommend PHC enough for C2D machines on Linux. You can undervolt the shit out of them and really help your cooling system. RMClock is even easier if you run Windows.
>>55067679
lol posting your own shit for sale. nice
>>55067679
>seller: jimmyrustles2
fuck off
good price for a mint x200, with 4gb ram I am seeing if buying one in really good condition for 110 bucks, or a tablet one for 160 with pen includes.
There are T400 with brand new generic batteries for 80 bucks.
I bought a t410 for like 30 bucks, i already upgraded ram and changed the HD for a SSD. What else can I do to improve performance/comfiness?
>>55067862
Install Arch Linux
>>55067862
linux goes like butter and start coding like gentoomen
>>55067925
He could buy a boat anchor for much less.
>>55067814
Thanks. I had the motherboard replaced when I was at school around 2008, so the BIOS is actually a later version (2.21 for this particular "revision 3" mobo) so I should be good to go according to documentation.
I just bought a brand new 2nd gen Thinkpad 11e (AMD A4-6210 version) to replace my Thinkpad X201 that was on its last leg. Got it for $167 shipped.
Seems nice for a cheap ass laptop. Fite me.
It came /tpg/!
Came with an ultra base and this interesting charger that also incorporates a car charging cable, so that's neat.
>No battery
>No HDD or rails (came with the caddy though)
Cost me 120$
Waiting on battery, SSD, and new rails. Does anyone know a good way to clean the lid/underside?
How'd I do?
>>55068252
The 11E isn't horrible if you're not among the trackpoint converted. That AMD may be a bit anemic but the graphics is going to be a big improvement. Not bad for a cheap laptop.
>>55068386
I never used the trackpoint on my X201 so it's not a loss for me.
>>55062213
This is the laziest "concepts" I ever seen, just look at that shitty keyboard
Also, Polaris is pretty much confirmed to be shipped on Apple devices, just like they have been using AMD for the last few gens
How easy is it to swap a hard drive in a new T460p? I've done this in old T60s and Macbook Pros but I know some of the newer laptops are making it more of a pain in the ass.
I don't feel like paying their ridiculous SSD prices.
>>55066720
I'm looking at one of these too. Used off eBay, probably throw in a 1080p LCD and add an SSD in the m.2 slot to use as the boot drive. Seems rock solid.
Oh and the 72 Watt-hour battery because fuck outlets.
>>55068383
>KDE
>>55068660
Too lazy to make a new livecd
>>55068677
>sudo apt-get remove kde-full
>sudo apt-get install i3-wm
If you're gonna use linux learn to use it.
I've settled with Debian meme, couldn't be happier :)
>>55068769
Learn to use what? Just a WM? Why
>>55068867
>I run debian jessie
>my name is also jack
>>55068885
Fucking clones need to get off my fucking board.
>>55068885
Who are you quoting
>>55068899
>myself apparently
>>55068885
Holy fuck this is weird.
Hey so, I have a opportunity to acquire a thinkpad (anything under $500 most likely. nothing fancy)
Is the t-420 actually the /tpg/ approved model, or is it just a meme because "LOL 420 BLAZE IT"
Is there a model that's better than the t-420 while retaining a decent price/performance value
>>55068928
It most certainly is not a meme. It's popular because it's the best 14" thinkpad option for its price.
>>55068769
>No HDD
>>55068928
T420 currently has the best price/performance out there
>>55068928
>enterprise laptop thread
>must be a bunch of weed heads
>>55069087
>>55068885
Fuck off with this bulletin shit jack
>>55069098
Who are you quoting?
>>55069087
Not an argument..
Can someone please explain to me why thinkpads are so damn comfy. Like seriosuly, even if I had $2000 at my disposal to spend on a laptop i wouldn't even think of buying anything except for a thinkpad. Man i love this things with linux too
