Ah the joy of restoring old computers.
>>55030726
toy? no.
>>55030672
Retr0bright? Enjoy your weakened plastics that'll be yellow again in six months.
>>55030672
is that your hobby m8? or those have some monetary value?
>>55032455
Negative. I utilize other methods that don't compromise the plastic. Of course there are similarities.
>>55032472
Just a simple hobby...and of course a prank.
>>55032588
That's really nice.
I wish the IIc had hard disk support.
>>55032537
>other methods
like what
>>55032906
If you cum on the computer and wrap it in plastic then let it sit in the sun it restores the color without damaging it.
>>55032906
Seriously just like retrobrite if you use a good hydrogen peroxide compound you are good. I used Clarisol Soy4plex crème 40. The plastic isn't impacted aside from the removal of decades of yellowing. It would take a similar period to reyellow though obviously direct UV exposure would speed things up.
>>55030672
Congrats restoring a giant calculator.
>>55030672
Kill ALL the buffalo!
>>55032996
Why would you think the plastic isn't impacted? Are you stupid? It even says the plastic is structurally weakened after use on the bottle. The plastic has gone through a chemical change by yellowing. Retrobrite is a reaction that reverses that temporarily by breaking those bonds and thereby weakening the structural integrity of the plastic. Nothing is without consequence anon
>>55030672
I know this feeling...
>>55030672
What's the story with the black keyboard?
Every //c I've seen has the platinum.
>>55033031
You are correct mostly. That said, the bulk of the plastic is still chemically intact. The yellowing is from surface reactions. I have yet to see the surface plastic harmed structurally and internally it is just as strong as it was before. Remember that the bulk of the yellowing is simply from the fire retardant chemicals that had nothing to do with the integrity of the plastic. Over time though I am sure this kind of work would result in brittle plastic...but not now.
>>55033317
They keys just aren't installed yet. I was deyellowing them too at the time.
This is pretty neat OP. How did you get into this? What's your prized possession?
Not trying to be a jerk, but what's the point in restoring something super old and outdated? Isn't it super slow?
Still interesting though. Would love to check out the old computers.
>>55033154
Couldn't afford the 640, pleb?
>>55033442
Its just fun because I used to use these old PCs as a kid (aka 1986ish)...and I am super nostalgic. I work with folks that have no knowledge of this old stuff so I enjoy educating the,. Of course I also enjoy pranking folks who have full knowledge and experience with the tech as in the case here.
>>55033522
I don't need the modem. It will get some WiFi with FlashAir.
Actual project besides ppc512.
>>55030672
is their anyway to restore these computers up to modern standards?
I wanna try my hand at it.
>>55033657
I'm just fucking with you, man. It's rare to even see these guys online. Yours looks pretty good!
>>55033720
Modern standards? eh...I'm sure you could retrofit something like a micro-atx board or a mac mini into one...but that's just stupid.
>>55033720
You...
What? That would basically be throwing a modern generic mainboard inside old plastic. Completely useless.
>>55033720
that depends on what you mean
clean it up so it's "as-new"?
modify it to make it easier to interface with a modern computer? (ethernet adapter, floppy emulator, CF card instead of a hdd, etc)
replace the internals completely with a modern computer?
>>55033754
>replace the internals completely with a modern computer
This
I just wan't to know if i could use it as a case.
>>55033779
But why would you want to ruin an old computer with shit?
>>55033779
in the same way you can use anything that's big enough as a case
no, a modern motherboard won't fit into anything not designed for atx/matx/itx directly (any non-pc, and any pc before the mid-90's) directly, some effort to mount things will be required
>>55033779
With a dremel you can nearly use everything as a case. But if you destroy a classic Computer, just to have a hipster case for a generic gaming PC, i need to kill you.
>>55033779
Sure you can. It would take a bit of work and interfaces would be weird if trying to use existing openings...but it can be done. Micro-atx boards easily could fit. The biggest issue would be the power supply. You'd need some kind of external option.
>>55033812
and this
you'll be removing the interesting part and replacing it will common shit
sleeper in a 90's PC case? sure, ok
modern hardware in an apple IIc case? just a waste, anyone who recognizes it will look down on you doing this
>>55032649
>I wish the IIc had hard disk support.
The //c had an external floppy port and there was a Mac HD by Apple that plugged into the floppy port on the original Fat Mac (no SCSI).
No idea how it would work but you'd probably have to boot from a floppy and deal with a 20Meg HD partitioned into 400K lumps. Maybe bigger partitions under ProDOS?
Damn! Now I've got to try it!
>>55033825
I use a NeXt case for every build. I've had to drill riser holes but otherwise it's Held up really well. I only buy new cases to put my builds in to sell.
>>55033974
If you had a dead machine or just an empty case, why not. In thinking about to get pic related.
>>55033742
Thanks anon. Maybe I should brighten the keycaps a little bit...
>>55033955
There was a cool IIe project a while back where someone took a DuoDisk and modded it into an OEM-quality disk drive, guy did such a good job of it that it looks almost indistinguishable from a real Apple peripheral.
Is lo-tech's site down for everyone? I want to get one of their CF adapters for my 5150.
>>55034209
found it http://www.vcfed.org/forum/entry.php?424-The-AppleFile
Really want to do a similar thing for my Commodore 128D but I lack the skillset and dedication, was never super into 8-bits.
>>55032537
What frozen wasteland do you hail from?
>>55033442
>what's the point in restoring something super old and outdated?
It's practical history. There's tons of interesting stories and innovations behind every piece of hardware, the market was incredibly diverse and it's exciting exploring new technologies and putting them to real use. On top of that, it's dirt cheap if you have a good source.
Aside from the history part of it, messing with old shit taught me a ton about google-fu, networking, programming and pretty much everything else, the stuff we use today isn't really all that new, just re-implementations of the same fundamental ideas and concepts that have been around for decades. Plus, learning the history and arguments for everything really beats the fanboyism out of you, makes it nice and easy to see the perspective of the "other side" and have a nice discussion about technology rather than a festival meme-spouting and butthurt.
>Isn't it super slow?
If that was the case, nobody would have bought it. Old stuff still does the exact same shit it did when it was fresh off the assembly line, just don't expect it to do stuff it was never made to do.
It's also pretty dependent on what you use, 8-bits like OP's IIc were crusty, ancient shit under the hood that were nowhere near as responsive, but they were good enough for basic word processing, spreadsheeting, games and whatever else they were made to do. I'm mostly into flagship consumer/high-end enterprise shit that feels no different from using new gear except for some delays when opening applications, which really isn't that big a deal, I'm a hobbyist, not a business.
Anybody find a working PDP assembly or a IBM system/370? That'll be fun to play with. Also, it'll be a good thing to use to mock the fanboys who think something two years old is a "dinosaur".
>>55033003
And congratulations on using a slightly larger calculator to mock a historically significant calculator
>>55036309
>PDP assembly or a IBM system/370
?????
>>55036326
wouldn't call the IIc really historically significant
still a cool ass piece of tech though
I actually just saved some old tech today. I don't have a single boot disk though.
>>55036408
I could have sworn I've seen that shot before, but if it's for real you're the fucking shit my man.
http://ps-2.kev009.com/ should have archived refdisks for those microchannel boxes, winworld might have setup disks for the 5150s/60s/70s and the 5155.
Anything good in the stack out of sight?
>>55036408
>saved an IBM
Throw it away, it was trash from the beginning.
>>55036468
PS/2s are the shit
eat a dick senpai
>it's a packrat thread
>>55036352
Look up the PDP-11 or PDP-8. They were the first of what were called minicomputers. At the time, a "minicomputer" was essentially a computer that didn't fill up an entire room/floor/building/complex, and the PDP-8 was actually what UNIX started out on!
On the other hand, the IBM system/370 was a big ass mainframe that replaced the thing that NASA was using sometime around the Apollo missions
>>55036517
>it's a minimal hipster getting buttblasted when people aren't paying attention to his blog about his empty, boring life
>>55036549
I know what those are desu, I thought you said "PDP assembly for an IBM System/370", like some kind of cross-compiler
either way I don't think anyone here has either of those, PDPs and IBM iron are a little beyond the scope of the average /g/ half-ass, myself included
though I did see a microPDP-11 for free on Craigslist once, it was an 8 hour drive away and I couldn't convince anyone in the area to pick it up for me
>>55036453
The entire stack behind the XTs and portable pc is 386 computers made by prospec. Havent gotten a good look at them, but some have been upgraded. Ontop of that stack is a mystery keyboard and a Hyperion with a cute keyboard storage and nice orange display. The other stack has a couple NEC PowerMate SX Plus, a compaq and an epson.
If the thread is still around tomorrow I will be bringing in a bunch of apple II e and c stuff, and whatever else this guy is letting me take home. This is an entire pile of assorted monitors and apple computers.
>>55036670
Did you get a good look at that blue box hanging against the post? The fuck is that thing?
Looks like either a mainframe/minicomputer hard disk or a real old multiuser box, might be worth snagging for sure.
>>55036670
Are those screens 515x or displaywriter models? I've been looking for a Displaywriter screen for a while but only find the others
>>55036757
judging by the other shit in his haul they're more than likely regular PC displays
don't think displaywriters were as common a site in education
>>55036796
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised, but figured I'd ask anyway.
Looks like there might be some in the upper right of the giant pile, too. I definitely see 6-7 IBM XT keyboards in there.
Gotta love cleaning out a buggy Mac Plus.
>>55036711
>>55036757
I have no idea I only glanced in there since the majority of the computers were in a shed. They all were generic displays at first glance. I will keep an eye out for that stuff for you guys.
When I first got here the shed was so packed i was walking ontop of monitors, I could not see the floor. The shed is an old trailer.
>>55036889
Really appreciate that, I have all the parts but the screen at this point. Any other terminal IBM stuff would be right up my alley too.
>>55036889
there's some really intriguing shit in the back, don't have half a clue what the big black thing is, the other circled thing kind of looks like an HP 150 touch system with accompanying drives, that would definitely be worth picking up
also, don't hesitate to check out printers either, they're pretty important if you ever want to put that shit to work
>>55036937
that's pretty fuckin dank
have always kind of liked the idea of getting a displaywriter but I never really knew what the fuck I would actually do with it, I've tried using my XT for word processing work before and honestly it's not really the greatest
>>55036937
It may take me a week or more to empty out that place, renting a U Haul is to expensive. Once I gather up everything that isnt shit there I will make another thread, and if I have duplicates/stuff I don't want I dont mind selling some of this to you guys for very cheap.
>>55036976
The one is a little HP terminal or some sort, didnt get a good look at it, I picked it up off the floor and put it there since I didnt want to worry about breaking it. Havent gotten that far in the back, the floor is still monitors there.
>>55036976
now that I look at it again I think the black thing is just a clone box at an angle
still, that entire building is full of pretty good shit, you should post about it on a vintage computer community if you can't find someone here to take whatever leftovers there might be
>>55033825
I'll excuse a damaged case with no internals being modified.
>>55037001
>The one is a little HP terminal or some sort
95% sure it's a 150 then, definitely try to grab it if at all possible
they're x86 DOS boxes built into a touch screen CRT, really neat boxes and HP's very first x86 systems, I think the auslard HP museum has a bunch of shit archived for them
did you get a close look at the thing it was on top of? it looks like a matching drive box, but it's a little taller
>>55036991
I just like having old systems from different decades to type stuff on, helps break up the monotony of word processing. Plus they're just too damn fun to learn and mess around with.
>>55037001
Sounds like you already got them warmed up to clearing it out, so no rush. If you don't mind, send me a message at [email protected] when you get it all tackled. I can help ID odd keyboard switches and all that.
>>55033442
Slow compared to what?
For what it does in its era, it works very well.
...just don't try to run Apple's Instant Pascal, that was an overly ambitious product.
>>55037001
>>55037031
http://www.hpmuseum.net/exhibit.php?swc=5
holy shit, I didn't think they would have that much for them, they've got compilers and damn near everything
>>55037047
yeah I feel you
I just got my hands on another XT with a dual-10MB 5161 expansion unit, thinking of setting it up again for that purpose, if only to run procomm on it and do university classwork on a sun box
>>55033825
How is your Lynx case not discolored?
All of mine are faded or brownish or some weird color. And it's not like I kept them in the sunlight.
>>55037031
The little drive bot underneath looked like it went along with the monitor. Not sure if it was what you picture is but it was a small HP, I dont recal the monitor being that rounded.
I am grabbing anything there thats not completely destroyed, a generic monitor or printer.
>>55037047
Sounds good. A lot of this stuff is new to me since before I only played a little with commodores and TRS 80s. I will be sure to email you if I find something I am unsure of.
>>55037099
it kind of looks like a 9153, but it's bigger and the drive is on the other side, either way it looks like it's probably a combination 3.5''/hard disc storage system which would make that pretty damn bitchin' if it matches that system
>I dont recal the monitor being that rounded.
now that I've looked it over 3 more times and gone through the HP museum pages, it's definitely a 150, that raised pedestal design and grey bezel are dead giveaways, and HP hardware wasn't popular enough to be cloned like that
you should make some blog threads about this down the road when you get it all settled, I would give you an email address too but I never check it so it would be kind of an exercise in futility
>>55037099
>>55037215
nevermind, it's a 9133
depending on the model it could have anything from a 5MB disk to a 40MB disk and all kinds of different floppy drive options
either way, cool shit
>>55037215
If this thread doesnt stick around for tomorrow I will make one if there is interest in having vintage computing threads. I really appreciate the help with this stuff, I own everything in the shed and the collapsed barn with the monitors, so I will be grabbing most of whats there.
>>55037304
Yeah that looks a bit familiar. We will see tomorrow. Most of the contents of the buildings were from government auctions, some stuff is from schools, government offices and some stuff from a university.
>>55037334
damn, nice
I had the fortune of getting to peruse through a similar lot of government auction stuff stuffed into an old pawn shop, but by the time I managed to get inside, all the computer systems had been hauled to the dump, and it was all fucking good shit too, IBM mainframes (my only consolation prize was the back plastics of an S/36 PC), DEC minis, HP minis and workstations, all that was left was a bunch of dead terminals and monitors in the basement, and I wish I had taken more of that too
>>55037334
I didn't realize the barn was collapsed, did rain get on the monitors? I did notice a whole bunch of Apple M0110+Extended Keyboards out there.
There's a Monterey K1xx keyboard in the trailer too (with the comb looking grill on the floor). Likely has white or blue ALPS switches.
>>55037404
I have no idea how long thats been like that, good chance it has been snowed many times. The majority of that pile was still covered by what was left of the roof. To the left of that image is even more monitors. I was thinking of making a wall with them if I really wanted to haul them all home. Its a 3 hour drive to get there, way out on a farm.
>>55037404
honestly if OP checks it over, cleans it and gives it time to dry he should be alright at least as far as water damage goes
most of the shit in that pile definitely looks like it would need work before it got running again though, luckily old hardware is reasonably resilient
>>55037453
>OP
or not, whatever
>>55037442
Wow, will be a true test to see what held up after that. I've found IBM boards that survived 10+ years being in an open dump, but never monitors like that.
How the heck did you come across all this, a foreclosure/estate auction? I can't seem to find anything like that in FL.
>>55030672
real talk, that design was probably the most aesthetic apple's ever made...
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Can anyone design using that design language without getting BTFO by apple?
>>55037453
If its not a complete pain in the ass to open the computers I will, dust them out, and since they have been frozen I check all caps to make sure they haven't burst. For cleaning liquids I use mostly 99% isopropyl alcohol if its really bad some MG Chemicals brand Safty Wash that is plastic safe.
>>55037463
The Hyperion computer and portable Tandy word processor both run fine, just need a boot disk for the Hyperion.
I checked kijiji and there was an ad that said shed full of vintage computers, make me an offer and take it all home. I have never seen this much stuff in one place. I doubted the person when they said that there was ~200 computers. I wont have room for all of the monitors, but I will take as many as I can after I get the computers.
>>55037525
the apple IIs will be easy as fuck, the early models are totally screwless
IBM shit needs space to pull the shell off but after that you're pretty much set
old HP stuff is generally annoying as shit because they have layer after layer of protective metal casing, but at least they're bulletproof (probably literally) as a result
dunno about the rest of the stuff, monitors in general will be annoying but doable
>>55036557
Is it difficult to talk with a mouthful of Jewish cock or did you get used to it yet?
>>55030672
Pleb points awarded for having more than one generation of apple faggotry.
>>55037554
I can do board level repair on this stuff provided I can still get some of the parts. If these boards are mutil layer then I will need to get a schematic for some of this stuff. Never worked on CRTs before so that will be fun.
>>55030672
Picking up tomorrow
its a Philips P3105 / NSM 9100 , which is identical to the 8088
It has the original keyboard(switches ?) and monitor with it,hope the monitor is amber, and that it has a hard drive inside
>>55037592
CRT are dangerous you can get killed, watch out for the big red wire going into the bulb
>>55033683
i like how some eurotard wrote the Y/Z keys differently with pencil to compensate
>>55037687
gtfo you fat american
quick mcdonald closes in 5
>>55037788
macdonald never closes in first world countries you dumb europoor
>>55037842
it should and you know why
>>55034550
Thule station
>>55030672
/g/ needs threads like this one more often.
>>55032472
>some monetary value?
Nostalgia is huge. The Elite:Dangerous kickstarter campaign shamelessly tapped into this generation and set a new and massive record for funding.
>>55033442
>Isn't it super slow?
Not really. This was from a different time, an age where programming was something of a science, art and black magic, where people worked hard to make software work well on a 1 MHz 8 bit CPU.
Remember the "killer application" on Apple II was Visicalc, a fully working spreadsheet software that worked on 48 K. The original Elite ran in 32 K RAM.
>tfw will never be able to rescue old tech from a companies dumping room.
>>55033348
Oh yes, that sunlight.
I've seen so many platinum Apples darken.
>>55034209
Wonder if I can still get comp.sys.apple2?
what operating sistem should I use for 386 processor with a 387 FPU on its side
it has a 250mb hard drive
maybe DOS ??
>>55040136
gentoo
>>55040136
9front
Web site suggests they are straight out of 4chan.
>>55040136
generic DOS
>>55032537
>>55034550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D7a8akf9dI
>>55030672
Saving the life of old hardware.
You are my hero OP.
>>55032537
Nice view
>>55032588
>Banana for reference
>>55037687
No, it's printed.
>>55037095
I think i'm just lucky.
![12695525444_dc8d84f252_b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/36d3a2r.jpg "12695525444_dc8d84f252_b[1].jpg")
>>55030672
OP. Do you know where I could source a green screen terminal? The bigger, the better? My region is Europe, alternatively China.
Do you know their price point?
>>55043280
In fact, any monochrome display could do.
>>55036858
They thought it was an apple
Jesus, im only 23 here, but the circuit simplicity of these old computers makes this a very inviting hobby.
>>55043280
>green screen terminal
It depends what the model is and who is selling it. On ebay, they tend to be a bit pricier, since most people tend to know what they have. Your best bet for something affordable is going on your local craigslist regularly and looking for something there. Vintage computer stuff that is very cheap shows up occasionally there.
>>55043530
Well then, are there any keywords I should invest in researching, other than 'green screen' or 'monochrome terminal display'?
why is my compaq armada doing this?
nerd
>>55043627
If I'm on craigslist, I just browse through everything in the computer section. Often times, I noticed that the good deals are mislabeled , or are being sold as someone is selling off stuff that has been left previous tenant in their building or something like that.
>>55040136
DOS or OS/2
>>55043686
It's defragmenting the screen obviously.
>>55030672
>>55030672
I had a sudden urge to get a really old computer the other day, but I have no idea what i would do with it.
Maybe research the hardware and write a OS for it
Doesn't seems to worth my time
>>55043627
Find a couple specific models you want.
Most terminal listings won't be labeled with their phosphor color, either, so if it's untested in the pictures you're either going off model numbers or going in the dark entirely.
Even more will probably be mislabeled as monitors.
>>55045802
Tons of abandonware and archived software out there for old shit, you can probably find something.
>>55045850
Oh cool, you're back.
Those DEC monitors on the shelf below the printer and the gutted generic PC case look interesting, probably went to DEC x86 boxen
>>55045850
that is
maybe you'll find the SPARCStation it went to too
>>55045850
huh, i recognize most of those monitors
>>55045802
Play Bubble Bobble like my daughter on my C128D. I also made a Polaroid of her playing, looks pretty oldschool.
>>55046513
>tfw have a stack of modded 128Ds and no keyboard to attach to them
>>55046526
This is sad. Where is your homebase? I had one Keyboard to much. Maybe I will find it again if I search my pile of retro tech.
>>55046627
Southern Idaho, more shit around here than you'd think but I don't think 128s were volume sellers
>>55046513
Best father.
>>55046895
Nah, German here, sorry. C64 was a big thing here, C128 not so, C128D was rare.
>>55040136
Geoworks.
>>55046927
Thanks anon. They are twins. The boy was playing soldier one on the C64 at this Moment.
>>55046540
post noodz of our mum first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO4mjEasdTM
>>55047052
This or dr DOS and GEM.
>>55047036
Damn, for some reason I thought the 128D was a bigger deal over in europoor.
>>55047147
Rare is maybe the wrong word. But the lack of software prevented a wider spread. Most people stuck with the C64 until Amiga was a thing.
>>55030672
nice alps keyboard
>>55043686
Looks like interference, check your cables, could be bad graphics.
Just got back with more computers. Most of the apple stuff was gone, got a couple disk drives, 2 IIe, a IIc, a couple small apple monitors and a few keyboards. Looks like someone grabbed most of the decent apple stuff before me.
Picked up a few generic computers, Olivettis, a couple Wyse computers, some more model Ms, and some other things that may be interesting that I will post here after I take a shower.
Here appears to be something related to networking, but thats about all I know about it. It was plugged into something buried back there so I will get to it eventually.
An apple motherboard that was in box but appears it had been used. I think its for an apple IIc. Also a new in box mouse.
Heres a what is to the left of image I posted before of the pile of monitors with apple stuff. I can't get that great of pictures inside, its too full and the lens on my phone isnt wide enough.
>>55033720
you could go the route I did.
>>>55048134
>>55049901
Most of those are model Fs, the two stacked are F122s (you can tell by the foot stand circles and stepped keys) and the rest appear to be XTs (black cable).
I can see the Olivetti slider with rubber dome, too. Not nearly as nice to type on, but a cool keyboard nonetheless. What are the three under that?
>>55050304
Now this is really nice, that's some museum quality right there on that mobo. The left pile looks mostly early 90s generic monitors, with a few mid-late 80s Panasonics in there.
>>55049901
Not sure, I will get you some pictures of those in a bit, I have a few things you guys told me to pick up earlier this thread, i'm just cooking right now.
>>55050687
is meant for
>>55050589
>>55049901
I came.
>>55049901
Holy fuck. The things I would do for that pile of computers
>>55032649
Any IIc other than the first ROM revision ("ROM FF") has Smartport support that lets you have the usual 32MB ProDOS hard drives. I have a Floppy Emu with 4 drives on mine.
Have another angle on the this stuff as well as a couple Tandy 1000s and a couple tape drives while I get some more pictures.
>>55050826
My envy is extreme.
>>55050826
Fuck I grew up with a Tandy 1000 was about to ask.
That switch in the back/side.. Ours was up against the wall and i was always so afraid to stick my hand all the way back and turn it on (thought id get shocked).
I used to have 5 commodore 64s and 3 Macintoshs and several Tandy cocos. I got depressed and left them behind in a move......
All I got now is one of these (not my pic mine is on a shelf behind some things. cant see it). It's boxed but beat up a bit. I'm trying to find a cheap commodore so I can write more programs and save them on tape (still got two tape decks)
>>55050826
Lots of Wyse and Olivetti stuff, they must've really liked those for some reason. The IBMs were way nicer in my view.
Did you figure out if the IBM screens in there were 515x? Should say right on the front square logo. The earlier models just used a single cable without external power, so that's the tell for those.
>>55049901
>>55050826
now that's some good shit, especially those PS/2s and wyse boxes
>>55050362
there's some PS/2 Model 20-series boxes in the back of that monitor stack, even if they're a little rusted they're probably worth the effort just in the parts inside if they don't work as-is
that yellowed box in the lower photo next to that HP box is pretty intriguing, so is all that software
>>55051096
forgot pic but it pretty much says the same shit
>>55036612
You couldn't pay the owner to ship it?
>>55050231
That's a gandalf box, let you run multiple pieces of multi-user iron on the same line before the internet was a thing.
Not really sure what component it would have been exactly, looks like either a big-ass client-side host selector or a tiny ass server-side switch.
>>55051199
I was only like 14 and had no money to pay the shipping for one of those things, throw in the peripherals with it and it would have been well over $100-200
>>55050826
W-where was this? How'd you even find a place like this?
>>55043686
bad video connector. The card/chip is probably fine, just check your connections and cable.
>>55050589
Heres all the non IBM keyboards I picked up today other than the Olivetti.
>>55050898
Very nice, I was looking at picking up a TI-99 at some point. There were 3 boxes in the shed, 2 for Vic-20s and the other was a C64. Boxes were empty but hopefully they are around. I already have a C64 and a Vic20 so if I find any extras I will sell it to you for cheap if you are interested.
>>55050934
None of the the screens I have are that model. There is still many things there that are covered up so I will be sure to look out for that monitor for you.
>>55051096
I will be sure to grab those ones, I will be back there sometime this week but I need to clean them up a little before I but them downstairs so I can clear out the garage.
>>55051200
Thanks for the heads up, since that Gandalf was there, there's a chance there is more networking stuff.
>>55051220
Put in some effort and look at local ads once a day.
>>55051467
>that HP keyboard
Nice, hopefully that means there's some early Vectras or even 9000s in there, '80s and early '90s HP hardware was fucking art.
>>55051467
>I already have a C64 and a Vic20 so if I find any extras I will sell it to you for cheap if you are interested.
That would be amazing. I imagine you live pretty far away though?
I know nothing about this, haven't even googled it yet. I am still looking for the keyboard to go with it.
>>55051514
http://home.total.net/hrothgar/museum/AES7100/index.html
Pretty neat, it's a word processor but you can boot CP/M on it.
>>55051494
There was 2 of those keyboards, one was very dirty. Its for this little guy.
>>55051504
I am in Canada.
>>55051535
Fuck yeah, I knew it. What's the specific model on the 9133?
>>55051467
Some decent stuff here, from top to bottom:
HP terminal (rubber dome)
Monterey K1xx (ALPS)
Commodore/Cherry G80 (MX Black)
Wyse terminal (MX Black)
Apple M0110A (ALPS or Mitsumi)
Apple Desktop Bus (SMK or ALPS)
You should pull a cap on the Monterey and two Apple keyboards to find out what they have! The IBM screen I'm looking for isn't the 515x series, so let me know what they are if you have a chance.
>>55030672
That's always a good feel, sadly i've only ever fucked with 90s IBM Based onlys
>>55051535
Me too! NB
I'm going to bed. My email is [email protected] if you want it. No pressure.
>>55051545
Went out and grabbed a picture since it was very faded. Thanks to lightroom I can read it: 9133XV.
>>55051572
I will check they keyboards and all the monitors for you in a bit.
>>55051607
I'm located in Alberta but I will email you if I find anything.
>>55051607
Sent. ;)
Here's the blue thing pointed out in >>55036711
To me it looks like some sort of hard drive enclosure to be attached to a server or something. There was 2 of these.
>>55051717
Definitely looks like a self-contained rackmount hard drive with power supply, nice dupont connectors and all
>>55051670
Nice, the 15 MB model, looks like it was an early high-end config, if the museum prices are right it would have run you over $6,000 easy.
Definitely worth messing with if you can put one of those other boxes to work as a bridge system.
>>55051717
According to http://s3.computerhistory.org/groups/cdc-9760-smd.pdf it was a 360 MB 8'' disk released in 1985.
>>55051572
Heres a small list of IBM monitors I have. I know that there are a few more 85xx moniotrs, or at least lookalikes to take home.
8515
8503 (x2)
5151 (x2)
Keyboard switches coming soon. Have what I think is a XT clone luggable for the time being. I had this before I even went to that location.
>>55051772
No idea about any early computer networking/bridging/anything. The little I know is from commodores and TRS-80s.
>>55051827
Don't mind me, I just like getting autistic about this shit.
I'm not really much into old networking shit either, but I like big iron.
>>55051862
I have nothing to do other than to attempt to entertain you people and clean this stuff up.
I think I will go buy a Datavac tomorrow for these guys since I dont own an air compressor right now, unless you guys know of any cheaper alternatives.
>>55051913
I usually just use a compressor or canned stuff,but the neglect of that stuff sounds like you'd probably be good with something a little stronger.
Booted up my old dual xeon board today. It's not as old as most here, but old-ish. P4 xeons, agp graphics, and ddr ram. Have it running 7 as a video playing machine.
Trying to clean out the office of some of the junk, maybe get a few of these machines running and see if anyone wants them for $10 apiece. Done 3 desktops today, I have a stack of laptops I'll start on tomorrow.
Found my Toshiba Satellite 105cs earlier, may try and boot it tomorrow.
>>55051974
I kind of have a soft spot for P4 Xeons, maybe it's because it fills /g/ with hilarious amounts of autistic rage whenever you mention putting them to practical use.
Once I order a Quadro FX 3000 for my Precision 450 I'm going to dualboot that shit with XP and Red Hat 9 and shitpost like never before.
>>55036858
Holy fuck
Reminder you're washing up and cleaning garbage that a business threw out decades ago that's been sitting in a thrift store or worse for most of that time.
Old tech fags are the funniest, 80% of the "tech" in this thread isn't turned on because it's long dead and we have internet clubs on basically 40 year old plastic. Begs the question, for the few, the proud, the ones that still turn on... what do you do with it? the answer is "jack off". These things are basically black boxes because you can't find any media, software, etc for them anymore and everything is expensive, rare, and incompatible with everything else as that's what the last two decades were spent trying to attain, of course you all just call these "normies". Dunno which to laugh harder at, non-working circlejerking or working "tech" circlejerking. This is hipsterism run rampant where you have to be so different by psuedo hoarding mostly garbage.
I'm so glad that you guys exist though, I sell a lot of shit online and anything 15 years old or more, slap on the title "vintage" and "retro" and I get instant offers from poor people willing to skip eating for a while. Try as hard as you'd like to pretend that you are different from "normies" who bought their way in by buying "vintage old cool retro" listings from ebay, you aren't different, you're doing the same butt diddling just in a different store and are willing to pay less for plastic with dead electronics in it. I grew up with a lot of the garbage in this thread and I'm glad to say I actually remember how shit it was and how I will never, ever want it back. You guys fell for the age meme hard and you pretend that this was some golden era, you didn't live through it, your nostalgia and memories aren't even your own. When faced with retrofags or the typical smartphone kid you'll inevitably compare me to, I'd choose to hang with the kid because he'll accept new things in his life instead of spending 2-3 decades stuck in someone else's past
>>55052025
>>55052025
Only 185 posts late, Justin! Step up your game next time.
>>55051985
They're not entirely wrong to dislike them, I used this same box for a helper heater in the winter in 2010. It puts out an amazing amount of heat.
Originally built this for a man for $3500 in 2005. Was liquid cooled and everything, he sold it to me for $200 in 09. Ran it for a year as a headless media server and retired it.
The movie laptop died today so this took its place. Energy bills gonna be outrageous.
>>55051862
>>55052042
Shit, I don't know, there's way more outrageous shit around now than the typical NetBurst Xeon power-wise (Bulldozer, anyone?), though NetBurst power management features weren't really anything terribly exciting.
I'm thinking of grabbing a Kill-a-Watt soon and putting that theory to the test, though.
>>55052025
For me its just fixing them up. I enjoy replacing components and connectors, as well as just cleaning their cases a bit. I have little attachment to these, I get them for very cheap and it gives me something to do.
>>55052107
Damn, I was hoping that had a hard drive fit into it.
Also, don't bother replying to that shitter, he's a butthurt nerd from /vr/ or something that half-assedly baits every one of these kinds of threads it comes by
>>55051827
Ah so they are 5151s. Thanks for checking at least.
The Cordata PPC is really nice! That clone keyboard looks like it has Keytronic style caps, most of those were foam and foil that got pretty flat and mushy with age.
>>55052054
You're got one ALPS SKCM white on the top left, and two SKCM oranges. Both great switches, some prefer the quiet tactile feel of the oranges vs the loud click whites. The cross shaped whites are Mitsumi Standard linears. Not great to type on, but still pretty cool.
Speaking of hard drives, these are what I found so far.
>>55052140
I don't care that much if thats all he does. I don't come by /g/ all that often anyways since I don't enjoy it here much anymore.
>>55052171
Thanks for the info. Hopefully they clean up nicely, if they still work I may try them out for a while if i can find their pinouts and they work fine with PS/2. AT ends are no problem, not sure what apple uses though, its a 4 pin mini din on the one.
>>55043194
looks like total shite nonetheless, like my little brother was practicing his cursive on it
>>55052247
Nice haul.
I generally have pretty shit experience with those early Conner 3.5'' disks, their laptop drives too were absolutely dreadful even after spending years in climate-controlled rooms in a 0 humidity desert.
That Micropolis drive is especially nice, mind giving us more pics of the stuff in the box if you can?
>>55052247
Most used the Apple Desktop Bus with converters on ebay for around 25 bucks, but the M0110A used some weird proprietary protocol. Not worth the hassle for those boring Mitsumis IMO.
The Monterey uses switchable AT/XT, and the IBMs are all XT. I personally love the IBM F122s, Soarer's converter would take care of all those in one go.
>>55052280
Sure I will in a bit. Have this Hyperion I kind of cleaned up a bit.
Anyone know anything for cleaning plastics that isnt too abrasive? I'm just using a microfiber cloth, rubbing alcohol and safety wash right now. Its worked well for me in the past but I have ~50 computers and monitors to get though in a few days.
>>55052328
I've never seen one of these before, the keyboard cubby is a nice little touch
Be very careful about using rubbing alcohol, it can melt and warp ABS plastics. Soapy water + a microfiber cloth is a good way to do it, and my trick for heavy scuffs is some Barkeep's Friend.
Yea it can be time consuming, but totally worth it if you plan on keeping them running or on display. I just set aside a bunch and work on one every few days.
>>55052328
I just get a few cheap toothbrushes and use them to scrub at stubborn spots. The rougher stuff I know of tends to not be nice to plastic. I use naptha for degreasing and scrubbing typewriter mechanisms, but it's hell on plastic and paint. There are some orange based cleaners I have heard good things of, but I've never given any a try beyond orange goop for hands and cannot vouch for them.
>>55052398
The Hyperion was supposedly the first luggable PC, but it was only partially compatible with it so it didn't end up very successful and was overshadowed by Compaq's portable pretty quickly.
>>55052280
>>55052312
I will look into the apple desktop bus, thanks for the heads up on the converters, might have to get one.
>>55052398
Thanks for the info, I will take it easy on the isopropyl. I will run down to the local Canadian Tire False Nationalism branch and pick up some barkeepers Friend.
>>55052409
I use toothbrushes and trimmed down horse hair brushes. I've used citrus stuff for degreasing before, might try out fast orange hand cleaner on a small very dirty spot just to try it.
Hard drive pictures in a bit, some of the labels are very faded.
>>55052496
Wow, boots right up and everything.
The INT 18H thing doesn't look like anything to worry about, just means there's no ROM BASIC to fall back to when there's no disk detected in the drive.
>>55052496
>some of the labels are very faded.
You could probably ID it just by the look, sound and date codes. It's fascinating how diverse early PC hard drives were.
>>55052496
I will definitely be interested in hard drive images. I have an old programming terminal I am having troubles with, having some sort of drive issue upon boot. with any luck I'll be able to use any photos for a visual comparison and check for an issue. Otherwise... I'm going to somehow have to find boot disks for it or see if I can connect the drive to a modern computer and get the data off of it. No clue what else I can do.
>>55050231
>>55051200
Is this like a precursor to Blade servers?
>>55052280
Here they are, tried messing with the curve a bit so you could read them better, but the model numbers are all intact. The first miniscribe drive is a model 3650.
>>55052588
Not quite, Gandalf made enterprise(TM) grade modems and switches for multiuser iron that allowed you to access multiple systems on the same pipe, they had a pretty good run in the '80s when their shit blew everything else out of the water but by the '90s the popularization of Ethernet gutted their time-sharing niche while faster consumer modems they never paid attention to took over the rest of their market.
Hell, I didn't even know they existed until I found that rack shot while I was surfing the chilton archives.
>>55052656
>all Miniscribes, ST-225s or variants thereof
Color me surprised. Still good shit though, don't get me wrong to the slightest.
There was something about full-height 5.25'' Miniscribes, they just looked so much nicer than those dreadful half-height shitbricks they were turning out later in the decade.
Heres one of of those pro spec machines I have. There are probably ~20 or so total at my place and where they once lived. If anyone wants one I would consider selling them at a reasonable price + shipping once I get a better idea of what they have in them.
Also, if you guys want better pictures of anything you've seen let me know, I can take more for you. They are just in my garage and my camera is on a tripod ready to go. I really appreciate the help on all this stuff, theres plenty more left for me to haul home, at least 3 more trips.
>>55052750
If you're bored you should crack one of them open, I wonder if it's really worth the "386" on the front of it.
>tfw into old hardware over a decade ago
>tfw forgot all the specs (cylinders, sectors, RLL or MFM, etc) of the few winchester and other HDDs I still have
>quite a few 386 boards
>probably not a single AT PSU left
>a complete 286 mini tower left but almost too scared to turn it on because it might pop a cap and fuck up the rest
On one hand I'm kind of curious about the things I still have on the other hand I'm kind of scared of the confrontation with stuff that sadly went defective and/or the realization that there was hardware I shouldn't have thrown away in the early 2000s (but I moved 2 times and back then couldn't take so much stuff with me)
fug.
>>55052826
Don't see why it would be defective, unless you're keeping them in a really humid place or something.
Most of my shit was beaten up by recyclers/donors before it came into my hands and works just fine.
>>55052782
Its getting late, I have a long day ahead of me tomorrow. If the thread is still around I will post pictures of whats inside. If not, I will make one when I make another trip if there is interest.
>>55052866
Sounds good, we anticipate your blog.
>>55052855
in summer the air humidity in my flat is often between 70 and even 80% and on some board I already saw a bit of corrosion.
those parts are in the closet for over a decade now and for the most time I forgot about them since I moved to other hobbies when I grew up.
but now I feel sad about the hardware I didn't keep.
sure, they were usually AT clones but still.
I wish I still had my first pc. at least I still have my second one (the 286 mini tower).
>>55037788
great comeback cuck
>>55033524
>>55034834
>>55037078
>>55039433
These are all great responses. I'm the one who originally posted the first questions. Man, I wish I was born around the time when this was first starting. I'm a 90s kid, but most of the people around my age aren't interesting in all this.
This is pretty cool history. Would love to meet someone who was super into it, or at least know where to start myself.
>>55053461
>where to start myself.
Easy. Go to ebay and get a working cheap 286, learn how it works, play around with DOS and WIN 1, GEOS and GEM. Just practice some basics. Then you can start to play around with non working machines. Most things are easy if you know the basics about computer.
>>55039433
>Remember the "killer application" on Apple II was Visicalc, a fully working spreadsheet software that worked on 48 K.
fwiw, the DOS version is available to download and try out.
http://www.bricklin.com/visicalc.htm
>>55053756
> not using the one and only glorious Microsoft Multiplan
hobbyist
>>55053787
>Multiplan on a 64
Absolutely suffering.
>>55054777
i personally prefer geoCalc.
blump
>>55030672
My 5170 was a bit of a fixer upper, I dread to think how much its had spent on it.
>>55055921
I love your setup. But have you thought about another phone?
I have a Bosch CT9001 (Pic related, but mine is in better condition), some of this kind would match way better.
http://samsmods.blogspot.com/2013/11/zx-spectrum-48k-lower-16k-ram-repair.html
Mod to replace the original 4116 RAM in a Speccy with modern SRAM. Theoretically this could be done on almost any vintage machine although some architectures such as the Commodore 64 make it quite tricky.
>>55056213
I like my B&O phone, its from 1986 anyway so its not too much of a stretch.
>>55056223
I kind of like it. There's always something about relying on NOS DRAM made 30 years ago that leaves me uncomfortable. I do prefer an option to use a modern, recently-manufactured replacement part if something breaks.
>>55056265
fair enough. With a NeXt it would be a perfect match.
may i ask what this "level 29" could be?
>>55056370
http://bbs.fozztexx.com/
>>55056379
nice. do you use dialup, serial terminal or telnet?
>>55052750
I am very interested. But I do not think it is worth shipping to Germany.
>>55056484
I telnet in, the machine has a 10meg NIC onboard.
>>55037592
RIP
why are good threads so rare here :|
>>55043686
I'm saving this webm for vaporwave art later.
>>55057771
NE2000 compatible NIC i guess. Some years ago i dumped nearly all I had... and I had many... now I miss them like hell. Some times I'm a bit stupid.
>>55059586
3COM Etherlink III
I use mbrutman's TCP stack and applications.
>>55062199
>>55062409
I i want your printer...
>>55062409
This is a really pretty setup. What's the red thing in the far right?
>>55062572
My bosses horrible crosley turntable.
>>55063302
This one?
Why the fuck is anyone using this?
>>55062409
i should get a better camera. almost impossible to take good photos with this shit
>>55056213
I think the phone works pretty nicely desu, matches the desk and wall decorations
>>55063959
I think it's a nice phone. I just believe this one would be a better match for the IBM. Colors, rounded corners...
I have no idea when it was produced. But it is made in w.-germany.
I have a 286 pc, it turns on I hear a short beeps and the two floppies make some sounds also keyboard seems to work led turn on and stuff ...
any Ideas, it is a clone of a 8088
>>55064308
Monitor stays dark? Any jumpers on the back?
>>55032537
What do you use and how long does it take for a significant effect?
I want to refresh some old cases but I'm completely new to this.
>>55062409
hnnnng
I found an old sears TV today for $3.99. It's made in 86, once I bring it upstairs I'll post a picture of it.
>>55065571
Put a C64 on it.
>>55065571
install a raspberry pi inside of it, turn it into a "smart tv"
>>55037215
>oi mate here's this is our most prized exhibit you bogan - the very first australian shitposting machine!
>>55065923
>tfw the cunt who runs the auslard museum died like a month ago
Thankyou to whoever recommended the Barkeeper's Friend, it works great. Most of these are turning out pretty good after a little cleaning.
What I have been doing is just using a microfiber cloth with a dishsoap + water. That gets about 90% of any dirt and marks off. To get the remaining 10% I will use some barkeepers friend and rub very lightly to remove scuffs on plastic and paint, then wipe it once more with soap and water. If it is adhesive that is still sticky I will use the Safety Wash.
Also if you don't have room for an air compressor for cleaning electronics, the datavac is the way to go.
