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Previously on: >>55023706

Welcome to /fglt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:

0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux

Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.

IRC connection details:
Server: chat.freenode.net:6667 (no SSL, 6697 for SSL) - Channel: #flt
If you don't have an IRC client (which you should), go to https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/flt to use IRC on a web client.

Visit the Friendly GNU/Linux Thread/Website:
http://fglt.nl/

Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://www.gnu.org/
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first for SATYA NUTELLA
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>>55030531
First for I'll stop reporting bait pasta as soon as you stop interjecting ;-)
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>>55030531
First for Arch. Just installed it today. Feels amazing and fast
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>have only one old laptop to use for everything
>installed WinXP on a spare harddrive just to fuck around with it
>did all the updates including the posready 2009 ones
>it's blazing fucking fast compared to Vista (which the laptop originally shipped with)
>it actually happens to have working GPU drivers (albeit the ones supplied by the manufacturers work only on Vista and upwards) unlike Linux becaue ati went out of business and the last kernel version this card worked on was 2.6.x
>thanks to the GPU drivers it also happens to run a tad cooler than my fedora install.
>it runs <380MB of RAM with firefox open


It's a shitty fucking feeling /fglt/.

Wat would you do?
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You like anime, manga, cute girls, cute girls doing cute things, but above all else, cute girls doing cute girls? Then debian is for you. Nothing should get in the way of your yuri, especially unstable software. Just add http://deb-multimedia.org/ into your sources.list (or sources.d), install mpv from it, install mcomix for your manga and doujin, install a cute DE, put a lily background, then you're ready to go. Also it sound like "lesbian", so it's perfect.
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I did number 3 last week and don't regret. Playing the shit out of Nestopia in Mint 17 mate. Comfortable distro if you don't want to use console too much.
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>>55030652
I'd use it as a headless seedbox and get a thinkpad for 50bucks somewhere.
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>>55030652
>use an unsecure and unspported system and be able to play some games on really really low details
vs
>use an up to date system but no vidya/gpu intensive tasks
if you can watch movies and browse the net on linux i would choose it. Not because any free or autism reasons, but because its supported. Also some MATE or LXDE if it works.
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>>55030652
Well, it happens to have security holes too.
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>>55030710
I'll just paste what I posted yesterday because I don't feel like typing it again.

Yes, that's obviously a problem. They can't even secure their own servers, let alone your desktop. But there are other reasons. They also don't issue security advisories, because they don't know anything about security. They delay security updates because they're too incompetent to push them out immediately without breakages. They actually have a package blacklist[1], where they specify that some packages are never updated. Anything with a 4 or a 5 on that list will not receive updates by default. Like your display server. And the Linux kernel.

All of this so you can get a pretty theme for Cinnamon out of the box. It's disgusting that you would actually recommend Mint to a new user.

[1] https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules
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Anyone using i3 here? Got some good configs and mods? I need inspiration.
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>>55030814
https://github.com/Airblader/i3
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>>55030814
Don't use it anymore, but I got my old config. Haven't modified nothing on the visual side but I could share some snippets that might help you

power management/logout
set $power_management wy[l]oguj, [w]yłącz, [r]estartuj

mode "$power_management" {
bindsym w exec `systemctl poweroff`
bindsym r exec `systemctl reboot`
bindsym l exec i3-msg exit

bindsym Return mode "default"
bindsym Escape mode "default"
}

bindsym $mod+Shift+e mode "$power_management"


just change keys according to your preferences and change the text displayed once you hit mod+shift+e

audio controls

bindsym XF86AudioRaiseVolume exec pactl set-sink-volume 0 +5% && killall -SIGUSR1 i3status
bindsym XF86AudioLowerVolume exec pactl set-sink-volume 0 -5% && killall -SIGUSR1 i3status
bindsym XF86AudioMute exec pactl set-sink-mute 0 toggle && killall -SIGUSR1 i3status
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>>55030739
Of course, this is a major cause of my dillema
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>easiness of packaging
>vanilla packages
>stable
Gonna try Slackware seriously this time. Coming from a Debian background, apart from no dependency resolution by default, what should I expect?
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>>55030966
manual dependency resolving, shitload of compiling and a community full of old "get off ma lawn" type of guys.

If it's your thing, then enjoy it brother.
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>>55030984
>shitload of compiling
You mean this https://slackbuilds.org/ ? Doesn't sounds so bad.
>a community full of old "get off ma lawn" type of guys
Some people say the same thing about debian, and even more people say the same thing about linux enthusiasts as a whole.
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>>55030889
>>55030839
Thanks.
I can't seem to figure out how to insert an audio tool in the status bar. That shows volume, mute status, etc. Do you know what the standard application for this in e.g. ubuntu is?
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>>55030966
how is it that everytime i hear about an slackware install i also hear that it got malware later on?
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>>55030984
>community full of old "get off ma lawn" type of guys.
generalizing is bad dude.
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>>55031083
It's called i3status iirc.
the config is by default in ~/.i3status.conf

It's composed from units, you can read about that in the documentation.
For audio volume and mute status my unit looked like

volume master {
format = "gł: %volume"
format_muted = "gł: wyciszony (%volume)"
device = "default"
mixer = "Master"
mixer_idx = 0
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Soon™
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>>55030889
I'm having a really strange problem with the AudoLowerVolume bind. It doesn't work for me. It interprets the 5% as a flag, lol:

$ pactl set-sink-volume 1 -50%
pactl: invalid option -- '5'

The bind doesn't work either. the RaiseVolume does work.
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>>55031228
>in a virtual machine
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>>55031259
Also, for some reason, I need to use 1 instead of 0 in the pactl commands. Why I have no idea.
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>>55031271
Thanks Sherlock.
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>>55031259
>>55031292
shit, don't know.

Guessing form this https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=686667

try
pactl -- set-sink-volume 5 -50%


report back
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>>55031346
Wow, I'm done. When I copy-paste your command into the terminal and replace id 5 with 1, it works.. But when I write the command manually into the terminal, it fails. Wtf is this magic. Is it some kind of weird - symbol?
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If I turn off a drive in my BIOS, is there any way to turn it back on without rebooting?
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>>55031421
no, copied straight from the bug report

the most retarded thing about it is that on fedora it works as you'd thought it would work
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>>55031421
>>55031346
Stupid me. It's the "--" that does it. I overlooked that. So "--" makes it work. Thanks man! Do you know what this -- accomplishes?
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I installed Red Hat 5.2 on a shitbox for the fuck of it.

Does anyone know where I can find very old versions of KDE in source or RPM form? I don't think KDE themselves have archived them, and the Windows clone riced FVWM it ships with by default is kind of boring.
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curl wttr.in/<yout location>
curl wttr.in/tokyo

>Noice
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>>55031585
s/t/r/3
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>>55031489
Separates flags from arguments.
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>>55031585
curl wttr.in/moon
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>>55031662
shizzz
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Compton is turning all my windows borders white,and spamming "glx_render:missing rexture"
I have never used compon previously and it seems to not exist as a searchable issue
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>>55031715
>seems to not exist as a searchable issue
so how on earth do you think anyone of us will come up with a solution?

conjuring?

get real
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>>55031894
You're overusing this picture attached to a shitpost.
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>>55031715
try backend = "xrender"
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>>55032001
enjoy your tearing
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>>55031894
You could in your infinte wisdom, bless us heathens with your holy commands on how to resolve this. As such, i image there are more then just my install of compton installed in the entire world, the chance people are having an issue with it, is highly likely.
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>>55032047
It's just to understand if the problem is caused by nvidia/amd drivers.
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>>55032059
>>55032001
Xrender cluster fucks every thing
glx works minus the orginal error
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>>55032071
It was over 320 posts.

It's a miracle it got to the bump limit at all.
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>>55032111
Well, old threads usually get archived, except this one.
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Free Software Free Society: Selected Essays of Richard M. Stallman, 2nd Edition
Download: https://www.gnu.org/doc/fsfs-ii-2.pdf
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>>55032256
but I'm using busybox
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>>55032256
This is an actual good read.
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I just installed mint and apt-get update is stuck on
100% [Connecting to extra.linuxmint.com (68.235.39.11)]
Is this their servers fucking up? How often does this happen? I can't install anything.
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Xubuntu or manjaro for beginner?
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>>55032331
>I just installed mint
You fucked up.
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>>55032331
>>55030777
and
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/
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>>55032356
>>55032383
Well, I tried manjaro and it was a lot of fuckery, in the end couldn't get it to run on two monitors. Don't like XFCE either, Cinnamon is the best DE I've tried.
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My laptop's webcam doesn't work. When I open Cheese or Skype, its light turns on but all I see is a black screen. What do?
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Whats the meaning of ~ in the name of some hidden files? Temp files of some sort?
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Using i3 on a dankpad. Added a second monitor and it works perfectly, but I want the second monitor flipped. How can I config i3 so that the second monitor screen is on its side?
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>>55032695
Backup. Some programs create them before modifying a file.
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I want to try emacs, any hints where to start?
On Vim I had vimtutor, is there something related for emacs or could you point me to a good website?
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>>55032973
If a hipster told you AIDS was cool, would you let a man fuck you in the ass too?

Just stick with Vim, if you're already used to that emacs isn't going to be of any more use.
If anything, the chords will just slow you down.
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>>55032973

The included tutorial: C-h t
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I'm running Cinnamon on Ubuntu. Is there any way to add the missing settings to the System Settings app? Like language and stuff?
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Hey /fglt/, got a couple questions.

Got a fresh Arch Install and trying to decide what DE to use. I installed XFCE4 but after trying for hours to get sound working, I figured I'd try installing gnome to get all those dependencies so:

1) Would installing Gnome to get all the sound and wireless menus for xfce4 work?

2) I want to install lightdm over Gdm. Would using that with Gnome cause any conflicts if I just stick with Gnome?

3) I tried to install Antergos' webkit2 greeter from the AUR and I just get textless objects and cursor?

Thanks famalamaring dongs
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>>55033294
Thank you.
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>>55032581
I take it you haven't tried KDE.
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I'm trying to mirror a Tumblr site for personal use. To go through at my own pace later.

Here's what I tried
wget --random-wait -k -r -p -e robots=off -U Mozilla/5.0 Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0 site.tumblr.com/

but this doesn't download the images. All the html and css/js points locally, and it does save the javascript gallery, but when browsing offline all the images are broken (i.e. they still point towards the tumblr domain).

Do I need to set the recursion level deeper and specify .png and .jpg for --accept? I tried with -H and just downloaded other htmls from the other sites referenced, no images.
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>>55033697
Another solution I thought of was to go through each individual post.html with sed, extract the image url, and download with wget, but it seems like an extremely awkward method.
It seems like something vanilla wget should be able to solve by itself
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I'm using Xubuntu, and when I scroll on webpages, it looks like the middle of the screen is hitting a speed bump. Or rather it's more like a single solitary wave that's stuck in place when I scroll. Same thing when I watch anime and there's a lot of movement on screen.

Any ideas what I can do?
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So people here were helping me out yesterday writing a sed script that performs multiple changes on "project*" files in the current directory then saves them as "assign*".

When I check the archive of yesterday's thread someone suggested a change which has worked.

Can anyone help me also get a file named "corr*" for each "project*" file that notes the which lines are being changed by the script before they are changed?

I swear this is my last sed question -- ive been digging around the man page and net for hours.
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>>55033697
$ wget \
--recursive \
--no-clobber \
--page-requisites \
--html-extension \
--convert-links \
--restrict-file-names=windows \
--domains website.org \
--no-parent \
website.org
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>>55033808
>--restrict-file-names=windows
can you explain this one please?
>--domains website.org
tumblr image domains are all like 67.media.tumblr and stuff like that. should I use *.media.tumblr/* or what?
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>>55033697
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gedsic/tumbdl/master/tumbdl.sh
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>>55033924
ok I'll read this
I actually had found a few backup scripts but they all seemed excessively complicated
going for dinner. will report back later or tomorrow
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>>55032276
Get out then?
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>>55030667
great pic
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>>55034033
>replies to bait
summer
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>>55032276

>is there a way to de-GNU my system?
>what are the alternatives?

>please help, someone interjected me and told me to call it GNU/Linux and I want to rekt him
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>>55034139
Last thread in a nutshell.
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>>55034166
>>55034139
>>55034062
>>55034033
stop
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I'm going to need to add more space on my home parition soon, but I have never repartitioned linux before. I am sharing half of my HD with OS X and I know what I need to do with OS X. I'm just a little worried I'm going to fuck it up and will have to reinstall my OS. Any help would be apreciated. I prefer to use Gparted.
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>>55034033
>Shitposters from /fglt/ constantly bombarding /flt/ threads telling people they should come over to the _real_ linux general
>Tell non-gnu users to go away

You can't have your cake and eat it, Stallmanite.

Besides, replying to poor bait, how silly does that make you look?
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>>55034449
This place wasn't meant for posting blogs though
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>>55034473
It's not meant for many things, and yet here we are.

Even if it wasn't meant to be a friendly thread, how does feeding the trolls help?
And to be clear, interjections are trolls just as much as any "muh busybox/alpine" post is.
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>>55034384
How are you planning to get the extra space?
Remove the OSX partitions?
Shrink root?
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>>55034514
Interjections are useful, since this is a friendly thread, why not educate new users to use the correct terms?
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>>55034667
because it's not the fucking correct term, it's the raving of an incopetent madman. and all you stallmanians are just as deluded and idiotic as your so called messiah
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>>55034704
So you're telling me my system is lying? :^)
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>>55034667
>Being rude and pedantic to new users about common colloquialisms is "educational"

You can stop your FUD now.
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>>55034722
yes, it's a lie perpetrated by your fellow stallmanians, it's not gnu/linux it's just linux, that's what the guy who invented it named it so that's what it's called. rms saying it should be gnu/linux is no different than if the creator of C# demanded that all things programmed in that language be called C#/program name
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>>55034667
>Interjections are useful,
No they aren't. I think you may have been shitposting too long, and are starting to believe your own posts.
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>>55034759
Linus wrote only the kernel, m8.
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>>55034772
yeah and rms can't get that right, hence the state of gnu/hurd
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My raid array, is performing like shit,only getting 5mb/s.
I'm out of ideas/options of what it could be
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>>55034759
Linux is just a part of the operating system.
GNU is an incomplete OS.
Linux is an incomplet OS.
Together it's a full working OS.
(Except that the kernel is interchangeable)
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>>55034851
so is the toolchain bruh, and it's far to minor a part of linux to get billing, let alone top billing
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>>55034872
>b-but my dishwasher runs linux with busybox!!!
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>>55034887
someone sounds insecure
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>>55034646
Shrink the OS X Partition and add the free space from it to my home.
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>>55034897
t. guy who wants that Parabola GNU/kFreeBSD users refer to their system as "just Linux".
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>>55034925
fsfcentric distros can be refered to as gnu/linux but not all linux is gnu/linux stop spreading that lie. and as far as I know bsd is nowhere near gnu, as they rightly view the gpl as cancer
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>>55034473
It also is not for tech support, tech support requests belong on >>>/wsr/
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>>55034851
The point remains, there is not single "correct name".

To declare otherwise would be the move of a nagging dictator, and we wouldn't want that, would we?
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I trying to change tmux shell from bash to zsh, but this shit don't change.


$ chsh -s $(which zsh)
Changing the shell for the botnet user.
Password:
chsh: Shell not changed.

chsh -s /usr/bin/zsh
Changing the shell for the botnet user.
Password:
chsh: Shell not changed

echo $SHELL
/bin/bash

chsh -l

/bin/sh
/bin/bash
/bin/zsh
/usr/bin/zsh

.
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>>55035011
But there is: >>55034722
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>>55034908
>Shrink the OS X Partition and add the free space from it to my home.
Well, it looks like GParted actually does support shrinking HFS+ partitions. However, this is going to take fucking forever, because sda6 is going to have to be moved.

First you're going to want to backup ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING. Then you're going to need to boot into a live system with GParted installed.

Then open GParted, and you'll need to:
-Shrink sda2 down.
-Move sda3 all the way to the left.
-Move sda4 all the way to the left.
-Move sda5 all the way to the left.
-Move sda6 all the way to the left.
-Grow sda7 to fill all available space.
-Double check.
-Press apply
-Wait

This is going to involve copying many hundreds of GB, so you're going to have to leave it running overnight.
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>>55035028
>zsh
literally why
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>>55035029
It's like you want to completely ignore the fact that the FSF added flags to uname specifically to have an option that would always chuck out GNU, whether or not the distro maintainers choose to include it in their name or not.

Sounds pretty underhanded, and not very freedom respecting to me.
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>>55035040
Awesome! Thanks a ton!
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>>55034667
Freetard here, I guess these interjections do the opposite. They traumatize people and convert them to braindead zombies who hate everything related to the root of their pain: RMS. Please don't interject them, some people are too fragile.
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>>55035064
Nice FUD.
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>>55035050

Just because!
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>>55035103
http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/uname.2.html

>Why can't I hold all these GNU references!
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>>55035150
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>>55035150
Whats wrong with that? It's a GNU system. Is GNU not allowed to be the GNU system?
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>>55033924
ok, this doesn't solve at all the issue
it *only* downloads images but not the rest
what I want is a full backup/mirror
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>>55035156
>>55035176

Again, friendos, nobody is claiming that certain systems won't or shouldnt have GNU in them, but there is no reason that ALL systems must have it.

There is no one single correct terminology to use for GNU/Linux operating systems.

Human languages are fluid, RMS knows this well as he seems to change the way he speaks about software as a service and whether you should be able to charge for free software almost every other week!

>>55035087
If I walk past someone in the street, overhear them saying to a friend "we should get a soda" and I interject to inform them that actually when they say soda what they mean is "CocaCola™",
how long should I wait for them to thank me before I give up?
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>>55035217
There is always >>>/g/flt but stop fucking up this thread with your butthurt catharsis.
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>>55035217
>There is no one single correct terminology to use for GNU/Linux operating systems
You just used it.
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>>55035308
>implying you freetards didn't declare holy ware on flt
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>>55035308
>Here, use this thread that doesn't fucking exist!

There was a /flt/, but the stallmanites soon got rid of that, as another thread merely existing in parallel was not respecting their freedom to not be triggered.

I haven't yet bothered to make a reminder pasta to put in every new thread that your autistic chums couldn't stand to see /flt/ peacefully coexist so shitposted it out of existence, but you are tempting me.

>>55035335
>Using a term once means it's the only term you should ever use!
And if I didn't prepend it with GNU every. fucking. time. we'd just trigger more interjections, so how about no to that bud?
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hey guys, i have a folder with a bunch of files with random names.

i was looking for a way to rename all the files in increasing order like 1.png, 2.png, 3.png.
example:
my actual folder
dasjeghj2h3.png
asdf123we.png
1231gfh.png
sdas89885.png


what i want to achieve
1.png
2.png
3.png
4.png
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>>55035422
rename -v 's/.*/our $i; sprintf("%04d.png", 1+$i++)/e' *png
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>>55035422
Try this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3211595/renaming-files-in-a-folder-to-sequential-numbers
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>>55035477
thanks man, this worked ! nice one-liner !

>>55035488
thanks for the help!
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>format zip disquette
>try to copy files
>can't
>root permissions required

why.

also how do I fix this and stop it from happening again.
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>>55036078
>man chown
What the fuck is a disquette anyway?
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>>55036101
it's british for supplementary external storage unit
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>>55036130
I'm British and it was me asking the question.
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>>55036140
not british enough then
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>>55036152
fair shout
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I'm the guy who was asking for advice on mirroring a tumblr site

In case anyone else should want to do the same, this is what has worked the closest to ideal so far
wget --random-wait --user-agent=mozilla/5.0 -p -N -H --domains=media.tumblr.com,SITEtumblr.com -r -l 10 -k --reject=*avatar* http://SITE.tumblr.com/


This excludes most of the unnecesary requests (tiny avatar icons, tracking js, etc). I managed to download the (full sized) original images, but the links within the htmls still point towards the online domains. I thought -k would fix that but it hasn't. Will keep researching
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>>55036101
so I have to do that every time then? that's dumb.
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>>55036078
copy files from where to where?
from /media/usb to /home/? That should always work. Any directory other than home you need root privilege.
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>>55036177
No, just when you format it. Or format it to something which doesn't have permissions.
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>>55036198
no, like putting files from my computer onto the data crystal.

>>55036210
what doesn't? i'm using ex3 now. I know windows stuff like fat and ntfs doesn't, but i'd rather avoid those.
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>>55036243
If you understand the question then you have the means to answer it yourself.
How many times do you format it?
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>>55036257
fair enough.

and I don't know. I only have the one stick, so I have to switch a lot if I need windows support, or larger than 4gb files, etc.
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>>55030531

Heyo, trying to get my feet wet in fullstack web dev and was wondering how you freeware extremists think LAMP stacks (which have been tested super thoroughly) compare to newer stacks like LYME and MEAN, which use one language (Erlang and Javascript respectively) for everything.
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>>55036305
NTFS then, if you need support then there isn't much else to consider except the new fat format which I can't remember the name of but supports 4gb+.
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>>55033798
I read up on this, and apparently what I was describing is screen tearing. I guess it's common for xcfe. Seems weird that it would be a common problem, yet they haven't made a fix.
Anyways, I installed Ubuntu and everything is great now. I'm glad there's baby-tier distros so retards like me can still use command line.
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I want to do a fresh install of Arch because of a problem I don't know how to fix.

My wired internet does not work by default, I have to edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf

and replace
dhcp=internal
by
dhclient
to make it work.

However, networkmanager is not on the arch linux install iso... How can I access the internet?
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>>55036446
* by
dhcp=dhclient
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>>55036446
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration
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>>55036538
I tried using netctl as recommended but it did not solve the problem.

I am not familiar with network so I cannot get a precise idea of what is going wrong.
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>>55036382
ExFat?
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>>55036567
neither am I, arch wiki has always helped me so I thought it could help you too
good luck
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>>55036538
Under /etc/netctl/examples, find the file that applies to you.

Edit it accordingly, then use
netctl enable /etc/netctl/examples/FILEYOUCHOSE


Of course, you could copy your new personalized profile somewhere else.

I'm drawing this from memory, but it's worth a shot.
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>>55036641
Was meant for >>55036567, sorry.
>>
Coming from a mostly ubuntu background, gonna try out Arch. What will I have trouble with?
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>>55036641
I will give it a try. thank you.
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>>55036724
That's a bit vague.
If you're familiar with the command line, you shouldn't have too much trouble.
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You like anime, manga, cute girls, cute girls doing cute things, but above all else, cute girls doing cute girls? Then gentoo is for you. Nothing should get in the way of your yuri, especially proprietary software. Just add yuri to your USE, emerge mpv from portage, emerge mcomix for your manga and doujin, emerge a lily background (might need an overlay), then you're ready to go. Also it sounds like poo, so it's perfect.
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>>55036724
>What will I have trouble with?
Urge to ask stupid questions. Try not to do that, Arch is about the opposite of that.

Follow the beginner's guide on Arch Wiki and you shouldn't have much problems.
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I can start my xserver with startx, but startxfce4 fails because it can't find tty0.
I know you are not supposed to start the xserver with startx but It's the only way I can.
Also startxfce4 works if I run it as root.
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>>55036900
>I know you are not supposed to start the xserver with startx
Why not?
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>>55036919
That's just what I've always been told I guess.
There must be some reason behind it.
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>>55036164
Have you tried httrack?
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>>55036936
I'm sure there is. Just have no idea why someone would say that, since that's exactly what it's meant for. Can any Anon clarify?
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After trying on and off for about 2 years, finally have arch set up and working exactly as I want it. It's been a long journey but I made it guys.
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>>55037051
Now you can join me on the quest to Gentoo.
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>>55037073
I seriously considered it but it's just beyond my depth at the moment. The last week or so on arch has been awesome. Probably going to stick with arch for a while purely for the wiki.
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Has the trolling finally stopped?

Are we back to friendly mode?
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>>55032730
With xrandr
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>>55033799
You could change the s//g expressions to //p to print matching lines then change assign on the output to corr, also there is a tool called diff which shows differences between files
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I use debian because my autism wants me to use 100% free software, but recently i tried ubuntu and it's better, with more updates and stable enough for my needs.
Once you remove unity and other botnets, the only connection to canonical servers is to syncronize network time (ntp). Is ubuntu as safe as debian? If only use main+universe can i avoid nonfree software? How good is the support for nvidia\amd open source drivers? Are the packages in the repos trustworthy or could they contain spyware?
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>>55037284
>Ubuntu is better
Nice meme
Debian Sid > Ubuntu
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Just picked up two SSDs, one for Windows, and another to jump into Linux with. Given that they're separate drives, do I need to do anything special to install them both, or is that really only for dual booting one drive?
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>>55035064
Actually it is hard coded at build time depending on kernel and libc. If it doesn't recognize the libc, like with musl, it falls back to the glibc option anyway /pedantry
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I need help. I'm currently in the process of attempting to make a bootable USB from a Live CD to set up my OS. I am on a Ubuntu Live CD.

I tried installing unetbootin to allow me to make my Live USB, but it depends on p7zip. For whatever fucking reason, p7zip has been removed from Ubuntu repos a while ago. Trying to install the .deb package fails for unspecified reason (dpkg just says "error while processing archive") and I tried to download the source code and running install.sh, but that only installed the fucking documentation. I'm not even fucking kidding. What is going on? Please help me.
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>>55037376
Also I can't find directions on how to install from source code, neither in the package or on the web.
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posted this in SQT but figured this is probably the correct place for the question:

Trying to set up a backuppc server using rsync. For my client machines I've excluded /proc, /dev, and /mnt. The backup runs well but I'm getting an assload of xfererr's related to files in /sys.

Should I also be excluding /sys? How does this affect a full restore from backup? Any other directories I really don't need to back up for the Linux machines?
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>>55036177
Change the mount options
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>>55036947
There was a thing about if you start with startx, lock your screen walk away someone could switch back to vty1, ctrl+c to kill startx then be left with an unlocked logged in tty, the solution to that was to use exec starts.

If course startx changed a couple of years ago to start X on the same tty your were logged in on so that ain't an issue anymore (thanks red hat)
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>>55037401
/sys is a virtual system generated by the kernel to reflect the currently loaded modules, present options etc, don't back it up. Just run mount and exclude anything that is listed there that isn't backed by a block device
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Hello FGLT.

My Linux PC had nouveau drivers for my nvidia card.

At some point, my OpenGL dependent software stopped booting. I looked it the error message and it seemed that it's caused by having several conflicting video drives installed. I listed my kernel modules and it had both nvidia and nouveau module. So, what I did to attempt to resolve the issue was delete the nvidia module.

Then Linux would fail to boot and I just flashed my system.

Can someone tell me what did I do wrong and what should have I done?
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>>55037466
Thanks for the clarification, Anon.
That's a pretty fucking sad flaw.
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>>55037284
You weren't using Debian stable were you?
>>
What do you guys think of Gentoo?
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>>55037510

Thanks. Just ran a full backup with /sys excluded without any xferr issues
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>>55030531
Good syncing tools for Arch linux?

I fucked up using git annex to add most of my home dir to a repo and now the file permissions prevent from modifying anything without sudo priviledges.
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>>55037918
So just use sudo to modify permissions back?
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>>55037544
Certain Nvidia cards can be a real bitch. Other than nouveau I don't use any of the other drivers. I also have modesetting 0 enabled.
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If I can't reboot, is it possible to get xrandr to recognize that I've changed drivers?
>>
Gotta try this again.

Dual booting Windows and linux. Should I go with GPT or MBR?
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>>55037932
Is there an easy way to do it for every file in a directory tree? I was trying to use the git annex unlock command and keep working with git annex, but it's extremely slow.
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>>55038007
chmod or chown with the -R option will work on all files in the target directory and its subdirectories.
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>>55038007
Yeah, check the owner of the files before you go using chmod, you may have just checked them out as root and would just need to chown -R myuser:mygroup
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>>55037946
Honestly, I don't know how the drivers got there. They appeared after I tried updating my Wacom drivers. What I did was search for Wacom on yum and installed every package in returned. Could that have included nvidia drivers? Because that's retarded.
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>>55037984
GPT but turn secure boot etc off in UEFI. Everything works fine with gpt these days.
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>>55038158
You should be able to have both nvidia and nouveau drivers installed at the same time but just make sure one of them is blacklisted and the libgl redirections are going to the right on. Err, that is the case on debian at least.
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>>55038173
Well, yeah, that was my setup. Linux booted fine and stuff. But OpenGL wouldn't work. Apparently, according to what I read when googling the issue, that can happen when several drivers for the same device are present.

Or maybe that wasn't it and I just don't even understand what was going on.
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>>55031585

Why can't I use "curl wttr.in | head -n 7"? Why does curl print that progress bar when I use it with head? I only want the first 7 lines for today's forecast.
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>>55032676

Remove the cover or turn on the lights.
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>>55038264
man curl
/quiet
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>>55036446

>systemctl enable dhcpcd@your_device
>pacstrap, install networkmanager too
>disable the dhcpcd service from above
>enable network manager
>problem solved
>>
if file has permissions 707, and user is in the files group. Does the use have full right to the file or no rights?
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>>55038264
>curl wttr.in | head -n 7
Use -s aka --silent
Curl always prints the progress bar when it thinks it is writing to a NOT writing to the terminal (note that it does write it to stderr so you could just 2>/dev/null it)
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>>55032676
The NSA is already using it, only one user can access the webcam at once.
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>>55038281

That's weird, because I remember using the exact command once without using the quiet switch.
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>>55038347
me$ touch checkem
me$ chmod 707 checkem
me$ sudo chown me:www-data checkem
me$ sudo -u www-data bash
www-data$ groups
www-data
www-data$ cat checkem
cat: checkem: Permission denied
>>
I'm getting the following when I try to ssh to my home network.

OpenSSH_7.2p2, OpenSSL 1.0.2h  3 May 2016
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug2: resolving "example.com" port 80
debug2: ssh_connect_direct: needpriv 0
debug1: Connecting to example.com [420.420.420.420] port 80.
debug1: Connection established.
debug1: key_load_public: No such file or directory
debug1: identity file [email protected] type -1
debug1: key_load_public: No such file or directory
debug1: identity file [email protected] type -1
debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.2
debug1: ssh_exchange_identification: HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request.
Bad number of command parts ['SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.2']


debug1: ssh_exchange_identification:


ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host

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>>55038470
> debug1: Connecting to example.com [420.420.420.420] port 80.
> debug1: ssh_exchange_identification: HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request.
You are trying to connect to the http server at example.com, roflcopter
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>>55038508
I must have forgot to turn off Apache or something
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>>55038508
>>55038515
$ sudo netstat -tulpn
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 16282/sshd
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:11484 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 16282/sshd
tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 16282/sshd
tcp6 0 0 :::11484 :::* LISTEN 16282/sshd
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:19818 0.0.0.0:* 786/dhclient
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:68 0.0.0.0:* 786/dhclient
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:1194 0.0.0.0:* 10072/openvpn
udp6 0 0 :::29869 :::* 786/dhclient
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>>55037981
xrandr has nothing to do with your drivers.
what exactly is happening?
>>
Could someone help me fix screen tearing?
Im on arch with kde plasma.
Or should I just install different de?
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>>55038759

You didn't specify relevant information like which GPU you have, but irrelevant information like which desktop environment you're using.
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>>55038759
try changing tearing prevention to "Full screen repaints" in Settings > Display > Compositor
>>
Where are the "Linux for Lesbians" girls from?
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>>55038851
Sakura Trick
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>>55038557
>resolving "example.com" port 80
You are not connecting to your server, you are connecting to example.com, it doesn't matter if you have sshd running on your server if you don't point your client at it.
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>>55038871
Thank you. Sorry for asking weeb questions.
>>
Sup /g/

I've been using SSH for a while and really like it. I mostly use my GFs old 2007 mac for SSH and X forwarding from my server which werks flawlessly.

On my Windows 7 desktop I use putty + xming. However I frequently get 'software caused connection abort' and I have to restart the connection to use it. This never happens on the mac laptop.

Wat do?
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>>55038905
I replaced my actual url with example.com numbnuts
No need to dox myself
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>>55038987
Maybe try using xpra instead, that way even if you connection dies the X clients will still be there when you re-connect.
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>>55039030
Yeah I was wondering about that. Virtualbox gets pissy when I have a window to a VM open and it disconnects. Next time I start the virtualbox window it freezes when I click on the VM that was previously open.

I'll give that a try thanks.
>>
Today I dreamed throatfucking my ex of about 3 years ago.
But I was unsure if I really should do it real rough and I woke up.
>>
Does anyone here use xfce and if so, how do you get rid of that annoying bug where you log back in from the lock screen and the cursor disappears?

Thank you.
>>
>>55039937
Are you using Xubuntu?
>>
I'm trying to create a bootable windows Usb.
As far as I know I need to format it to ntfs first, then write .iso to it.
My problem is that I get
plain floppy: device "/dev/sdc/"
busy (Resources temporarily
unavailable):
Cannot initialize '::'
mlabel: Cannot initialize drive

On gparted.
Also then I click to format ntfs, I see ntfs on the list but I can't click it.
How do I create live win USB, is there a good program for this job?
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>>55040122
I also tried mkfs.ntfs command on terminal and I got command not found
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>>55039030
How the fuck does it work? I have a certificate server and XPRA doesn't give me an option to add it?
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Is there any distro with the same release format that FreeBSD uses?

>easy and quick graphical base install
>compile everything else from source
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>>55040122
I don't know about the gparted error (floppy drive? trailing slash wut?) but I am pretty sure you write the iso directly onto the drive, not onto a partition on it. So no you don't need to format it first.
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>>55040303
>a certificate server
Like for ssh? I dunno about on windows but on linux it just calls out to ssh so eg ~/.ssh/config still applies and you can also give it an alternate command (with args) to use with the --ssh argument.
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>>55040325
gentoo
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>>55040387
>easy and quick graphical base install
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>>55030531
Is debian testing more stable than arch?
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>>55040375
Im on winblows and this is waht i get
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>>55040409
yes

Unstable (Sid) is more like Arch from the bleeding edge POV.
>>
The naming sheme is sort of unintuitive.

imho it should be named like this:
stable > unstable > testing
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>>55040478
But anon, think of it like this:
Stuff's fresh and untested? >>> unstable
Didn't break anything in unstable? Test it for stable: >>> testing
Everything nice for running it 10 years without breaking? >>> stable
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>>55036591
Yeah, sorry for the delayed response.
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>>55040431
Anyone? How do I use a certificate with this?
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>>55040431
I dunno anon, I don't have windows and havn't used in like three years. I remeber that xpra shipped with it's own plink. Maybe you will just have to call it from the command line (that way you can use the normal xpra manual) then put it in a shortcut when you have it working. You will probably want to use the --ssh argument to pass it the ssh command you normaly run (pretty sure you can save putty sessions for later use too).
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>>55040560
Use linux?
>>
Is it possible to use the liquorix kernel in kubuntu 14.04? Or to update the normal kernel to something more up to date than 3.13?
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>>55040671
do you have hardware problems on the current version?

If not, don't bother. If you expect some magical performance improvements youre plain wrong. It's actually the other way around, with each release the kernel gets more bloated and slower.
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>>55040639
Nah senpai, photoshop and muh gaymes. It's the one machine I have windows running.
>>
just intalled ubuntu server/miniintsall on a virtual box

how can i use gui stuff i made as well as gui programs i install using apt-get, without a wm

there is something i need to do with screens etc
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>>55040715
No particular problems but I'm used to using more up to date kernels. I've not found them to be slower or more bloated in recent releases. Having extra modules built in doesn't make it slower, if they are not loaded they do nothing.
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>>55040774
gui software requires a display server/protocol such as X or wayland.
>>
Since people complain about gtk file picker on here a lot and someone was wishing for a modular file picker the other day I have whipped up a library suitable for putting in LD_PRELOAD which intercepts requests for the gtk file chooser dialog the qt file dialog and can call out to an external application instead. Problem is I don't actually use a DE and don't know of any third party file pickers to test it with.
So file picker fags what 3rd party file pickers are there if any?
>>
>>55040808
>No particular problems but I'm used to using more up to date kernels.
I hope you're aware that this is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

>Having extra modules built in doesn't make it slower, if they are not loaded they do nothing.
Having extra modules is therefore of no use if they're not loaded.
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>>55040823
Use KDE
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>>55040774
If you don't know just install task-desktop to install the default graphical desktop environment. Warning, after all the shit that pulls down your install won't be minimal anymore.
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>>55030531
So i had the chance to buy a used Dell inspiron with AMD APU, for around 50$ from a guy. He sold it because he thought it was good enough for gaming because AMD APU but it couldn't run whatever AAA game he was playing.

Now i have used lots of Linux distros over time, Fedora, CentOS, ubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, tinycore, slitaz, dsl, slax, elementary OS and god knows what other distros, but never from the view point of someone who needs good battery life
I want one that has

>good power management (high priority)
>some system for installing programs (zypper, yum or apt+dpkg), not the distros own retarded package manager

Thats about it, bonus if it has good driver support for AMD i guess
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>>55040861
read the post again faggot
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>>55040878
no

i want to create my own gui, which obviously won't have all of the functionalities, but i don't need them anyway

i think as >>55040821 said x server will do for this
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>>55040879
>Now i have used lots of Linux distros over time
>good power management (high priority)
>Thats about it, bonus if it has good driver support for AMD i guess
Does not compute.

If you were so proficient with Linux-derived operating systems you should be aware that all those distros are built form the same source code.
You should also be aware that no Linux distribution or even Linux kernel developer is responsible for proprietary drivers AMD provides.
And the proprietary drivers that AMD provides for their hardware is of sub-standard quality (to say the least)


Just install Ubuntu or it's derivative.
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>>55040853
Could you tell me how to do it if I wanted to instead giving me a lecture and misinformation about kernels? I'm fairly well educated in the kernel itself but I've never used *buntus before.
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>>55040916
apt-get install <your kernel dev file>
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>>55040927
Thanks
>>
Is there anything useful to do with KDE activities? It took me a while understand what they were and now I just can't think of much to do with them.
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