Is windows 2000 botnet?
Can it be used these days and still run shit?
>>54987443
Anon you're asking if an OS from 2000 is still a viable option for use. That's a definite nope because Microsoft themselves don't even support it.
If you are concerned enough with Window 10's trends, you are more than capable installing Ubuntu or something similar.
>>54987623
? Its still NT
>>54987642
I use xubuntu actually, and thats not the point. Im more curious if telementary was in 2000
>>54987443
You can get pretty much anything that still supports XP working on it by installing the extended kernel and unofficial update rollup.
>>54987623
I loved windows 2k, also the us government still uses windows 3.11
>>54987443
Sure, Firefox 12 has some hiccups with the latest revisions of recaptcha and Microshit's awful bloated site but other than that 2K as a whole is quite a nice operating system that I enjoy using almost daily. Easily the height of Windows' UI design, too.
>>54987623
Security hotfixes != usability
>>54987443
I love windows 2000 I have an old 2K system that I still use for shits and gigs. Here is my loadout:
Windows 2000 Professional SP4
Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1
Microsoft Visio 2000 SR-1
Microsoft Project 2000 SR-1
AutoCAD 2000i
Visual Studio 2005 SP1
Adobe Photoshop 7.0.1
Alienskin Eyecandy 5.0
Adobe Acrobat 6.0.1
Adobe Audition 1.5
Act! 2000
Only posting because Windows 2k is my favorite operating system. While it is likely nostalgia I still just love everything about it. Even my Ubuntu installation is themed for windows 2k.
That being said I am looking for a Windows 2000 installation media. I found an abandonware website but the CD requires a serial key which was not included. Anyone have a copy? I would be eternally greatful.
Thanks in advance. And I just want you anons to know that I love you despite your weird fetishes and faults. You are good people simply because you are human. If you have a job then have a good day at work tomorrow. If not then enjoy your freetime guilt-free. When the time comes you will have a job and if that time never comes then you will be living the life we all dream of. Just be happy.
>>54987876
>AutoCAD 2000i
Where did you find that? I'm looking for some old CAD software for my 2K system so I can do something useful with it.
>>54987860
Why use such an ancient version of Firefox though? The latest version works fine on Windows 2000 with the kernel patch.
>>54987860
I ran windows 2k beta on a 66mhz 486 with 32 megs of ram. The minimum system requirements list a Pentium 133 with 64 megs of ram. Fuck da police.
NT 4.0 is master race though.
>>54987883
You can buy a legit copy off ebay for a few bucks, you get the license and the sweet holographic cd-rom
>>54987928
im surprised I haven't seen this on any aesthetic shit yet
>>54987928
Thanks, didn't even think of that.
![WP_20160608_21_35_55_Pro[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LSPjKn0.jpg "WP_20160608_21_35_55_Pro[1].jpg")
>>54987896
It's EXTREMELY rare. It's the last version of autocad that doesn't require a crack to bypass online authentication.
I only run 100% legit software on my 2K machine (no botnets pls).
>>54987883
serials aren't locked to a specific cd
>>54987883
Try a key from here: http://www.rosshaynes.com/WindowsOS.html
>>54987901
I haven't kernel patched it yet, I'm actually not sure what exactly I need for it.
Some anon linked a site in moon runes a while back but I wasn't really sure what to download, it was probably really simple but I didn't look into it much.
>>54987922
I run NT4 on a ThinkPad, take that thing to work every day for spreadsheeting and shitposting, it's a pretty rock solid system.
>>54987964
If you can be arsed, you should image that and put it up somewhere. I bet WinWorld might take it.
>>54987901
>kernel patch
This is a thing with 2K? Any links?
>>54987443
Yes. But you have to use this case.
>>54987964
You really should share that with winworldpc if they don't have it
>>54987860
Let's see how "usable" your outdated, nonpatched Microsoft OS is when it connects to the internet and instantly gets 500 viruses without you having to do shit.
Dumbfuck.
you're retarded if you think using a 16 year old operating system is good to use
![snapshot_05.46_[2015.12.23_03.10.36].png](https://i.imgur.com/lyfP5xr.jpg "snapshot_05.46_[2015.12.23_03.10.36].png")
>>54987976
>>54988003
you know
he will NEVER share it
>>54987976
>take a key
Thank you so much for that. Does Google filter results because I went through 3 pages and saw nothing useful when looking for a key. I wish M$ would just make their older stuff free. When computer anthropology becomes a thing I will mention you during one of my lectures <3
>>54987976
Nice, I think I will do that with my T30 MemePad, now I guess I have a reason to fix the battery pack.
>>54988079
Really software copyright should expire after 10 years. And to get copyright protection at all companies should be required to file the source code with the library of congress to be published after expiration of copyright.
>>54987623
Is that the guy from the new Radiohead song?
>>54988038
I've been using it on the internet for a couple weeks now and it's just fine.
>and instantly gets 500 viruses without you having to do shit.
Through what vectors? Firewall your shit, disable remote access services like RDP, use common sense when browsing, don't execute strange files. The majority of Windows viruses and exploits rely primarily on PEBCAK now as much as they did back then.
>>54988079
>Does Google filter results because I went through 3 pages and saw nothing useful when looking for a key.
No, that's quite strange. That site is actually usually the first result when I go looking around for Win9x keys.
>>54988059
I can dream. It kind of sucks having a $15,000 piece workstation hardware that you can't even use as a workstation.
>>54988093
Good luck, T30 seems like it's cutting it a little but I bet there's probably NT4 support on it for edge use cases.
Don't forget to grab some modified browsers and adblockers from http://toastytech.com/files/95browsing.html
I tend to like SeaMonkey for the mail client.
>>54988079
literally the first result on Google has a serial. Are you some retard that thinks he'll get raided for googling serials?
>>54988143
No I searched for "Windows 2000 serial key" about 3 months ago and it didn't show up. I don't think I am retarded but there is definitely something wrong with me.
>>54987443
>443
>https
+1 OP
We still have a few servers running Server 2000 at work. I hate them, but they never stop running, never break down, etc. Well, one did a few years ago, fucked security registry hive, no shadow copies...
>went to another 2000 server
>yoink'd sec reg hive
>server booted
>saved the company >$100k
can't knock it really but linux is better just go with that
>>54987623
Dipshit, it worked back in the day, it will work now.
>>54988038
do people actually think this is how it works?
>>54988111
I totally agree. Even 10 years is too long imo but maybe it should be based on revenue or something.
>>54988198
Try dropping "key", that page is the first thing I get when searching for "windows 2000 professional serial"
>>54987642
Windows 2000 is a better OS than Ubuntu.
>>54987999
This image will never be a meme, keep trying newfriend,.
>>54988111
>>54988231
It's not really that easy.
Most big-name proprietary software is a convoluted clusterfuck of licensed IP, trade secrets and other still very relevant, reasonably copyrighted components that tend to stifle companies from simply just releasing everything. Other times, it's simply not worth the effort.
>>54988257
Pretty sure that image was around in the InElite days
>>54987999
Why is this suddenly a big deal? I had a friend with one of those nV Coolermaster cases like ten years ago.
>>54988222
It is how it works, you dumbfuck. There are vulnerabilities in things like scripting and even IMAGES that are unpatched in Win2k that even on "legitimate" sites are either accidentally there or come in from outside sites. You can easily get your computer massively infected from being so far out of date.
But yeah, go ahead and tell me I'm wrong, 18 year old. Tell someone that's been working in the fucking computer industry as a sysadmin, lead developer, DBA, and pretty much any other hat you can imagine that he's wrong.
Dumbshit.
>>54988296
okay, you're wrong.
>>54988201
What about them do you hate?
>>54988296
>It is how it works, you dumbfuck. There are vulnerabilities in things like scripting and even IMAGES that are unpatched in Win2k that even on "legitimate" sites are either accidentally there or come in from outside sites. You can easily get your computer massively infected from being so far out of date.
Can you show me an occasion where a trustworthy website has exploited these fifteen fucking year old, thoroughly documented and now patched vulnerabilities in 2016 in a way that NoScript and an ad blocker won't remedy?
Besides, exactly what malicious ad provider or individual that has managed to compromise a major website is going to then squander that opportunity or their time attacking fifty or so poorfags that make up less than 0.5% of the world's internet users?
>But yeah, go ahead and tell me I'm wrong, 18 year old. Tell someone that's been working in the fucking computer industry as a sysadmin, lead developer, DBA, and pretty much any other hat you can imagine that he's wrong.
Cool, I bet you were top of your class in gorilla warfare school too.
>>54988296
>I managed some irrelevant databases nobody gives a fuck about and wrote some shitty code, I'm a world-class cybersecurity expert!
ebin
>>54988296
You probably think you get AIDS when somebody sneezes in your general direction don't you?
Computer viruses are not just floating for decades waiting to infect the .001% of people using operating systems that are still vulnerable to them.
BTW, what does it mean to get massively infected? They send a few spam e-mails or delete system32? What are you so worked up over?
>>54988292
nvidia meme is strong right now because of the 1080/1070 cards
>>54987860
>Win2K
>on a fucking SGI 320/540
>possibly running fucking god damn quad Xeon 900mhz CPUs
Hardware listing screenshot now mah nigga
I got an old Win98 Thinkpad 600e I play my DOS games and shit on from when I was a kid, and I've used some sort of Opera to connect to the Internet to download DOS games and mods and shit
man my first workstation was a P3 1ghz dualie with like 1gb of RAMBUS, my neighbors got rich off RAMBUS stock back in the day, paid off their house and bought two brand new cars was probably 1999 or something
Theres a critical security bug they couldnt fix before EOL (I think it was in the TCP stack, easy to google). That puts it out of the option basket for me and it should for you if you value your security (no a firewall wont protect you from the bug).
>>54988038
im using window7 with updates disabled for more than a year now.
how many viruses do I have?
why dont you try to hack me since im so insecure and vulnerable like an anime girl?
fucking retard.
yea without this magical update 10000 of viruses will immedietly infiltrate your pc's firewall through this "Adobe reader" vulnerability.
yea..
idiot.
>>54987999
fuck off forced meme
>>54988296
I'm standing up for you anon, and it's sad people are laughing about it (vulnerabilities in GDI or getting fucked because of png image handler is no joke).
>>54988552
Nobody's laughing at vulnerabilities, we're laughing at the fallacious idea that everyone and their mother is out there exploiting them just because they exist.
>>54988296
>Larping as a sysadmin on the internet
Nice appeal to authority bro. Also back in the day people had a globally routable IP strait into there box with no firewall at all. I would not want to do that on windows 10 today even with all the security updates.
>>54987883
I love you too, anon.
>>54988552
"Microsoft Windows is vulnerable to a denial of service attack, caused by a buffer overflow in the GDI32.DLL GetEnhMetaFilePaletteEntries() API function. By sending specially-crafted EMF files to a victim as an email attachment and tricking the victim into opening the attachment or by hosting it on a Web site and persuading the victim to visit the Web site, a remote attacker can cause a denial of service."
Oh fuck, I am so scared.
>>54988552
it's like /g/ forgets that windows is crap when it looks vaporwave
>mfw /g/ is so stupid and contrarian that they're willing to use an OS that the vendor doesn't even support anymore, exposing themselves to security threats and risking becoming part of an actual Russian botnet just because they're afraid of the hypothetical Microsoft meme botnet because their kewl friends on 4chan told them so
holy shit how do you guys manage to not choke on your tongues?
>>54988522
This post is so full of retard I can't even.
1. There is no way to gain user access through TCP, only DoS vunerability
2. There is no way that somebody can get to your TCP stack through a fucking firewall
3. You don't need a fucking TCP vulnerability to DoS somebody anymore, you just need an IP address, TOR and like $20 worth of bitcoin.
>>54987443
Look, I love Windows 2000 and consider it the best release of Windows ever, but running it in 2016 is a ridiculous proposition. Gaping security vulnerabilities aside, a large proportion of new software doesn't work anymore; you'd quite literally have a higher success rate running your applications on Linux via Wine.
serious question, could Windows 95 still be used for lightweight browsing, music, etc.?
>>54988463
>>possibly running fucking god damn quad Xeon 900mhz CPUs
I wish, it's "just" a dual 500 config, but a pretty bitchin' one, these chips are so early they're not even marked. I wonder how the teacher who had it before me managed to convince the school district to shell out $10-$15,000 on it
Might either throw another two 500s in it for the sheer autism of having the absolute best stock config the 540 was ever offered with or go with 700s for that 2 MB of on-die cache. 900s seem to be hit or miss apparently, only compatible with some systems.
>my first workstation was a P3 1ghz dualie with like 1gb of RAMBUS
That sounds sweet. RDRAM systems are still great even in 2016 too, for whatever reason that little bit of extra bandwidth makes those things fly like no other.
>>54988636
And still nobody has demonstrated a PEBCAK-free way of accomplishing this alleged insta-botnetting.
>>54988729
Ctrl+f
"95"
>>54988729
Not at all, I tried it for keks once. It doesn't end well, especially browsing the internet
>>54988715
Which vulnerabilities are you referring to anon? Sounds like you're knowledgeable, you should be able to name a few off the top of your head. While you're at it maybe you can explain what gave you the idea that the intention is to run 2016 software on a 2000 OS?
>>54988729
That depends on what you mean by "lightweight browsing"
Turn off javascript entirely and use one of the browsers I linked in >>54988133 and you can get by just fine for imageboards and wikisurfing, I use them almost every day on my NT4 systems.
And speaking of NT4, you would be far better off using that than 95 unless you want games support.
I don't really know what 95/NT4 can do as far as music goes, you can handle MP3s and other "common" formats just fine but I don't know about stuff like FLAC, usually I just wire my phone in to the line-in jack and play it through the speakers/headphones on the system. It's a little more convenient too, since it gives you a dedicated screen and also access to modern streaming services.
There's a ton of perfectly usable software out there for 9x/NT, for example, Office '97-2k works just fine for most of my personal needs, the only thing I miss is conditional formatting in excel and custom color palettes, for more specific stuff, go check out Simtel and other shareware archives at cd.textfiles.com
>>54988804
>conditional formatting
learn VBA scrub, it's like 10 lines of code to do a basic conditional format
>>54988715
>Look, I love the modle t and consider it the best release of Ford ever, but running it in 2016 is a ridiculous proposition. Gaping security vulnerabilities aside, a large proportion of headlights doesn't work anymore; you'd quite literally have a higher success rate running your headlights on steam engines via generators.
You clearly don't get it and don't belong here. I still have a TRS 80 and a 486 dos/windosw 3.1 machine, I run arachne browser on that shit too. Why? Because I fucking want to.
>>54988804
thanks for all that. I have a laptop I use exclusively to browse 4chan and listen to 320Kbps MP3s, I take that won't be a problem?
every now and then I use Google and the Wiki, but I can get around scripts.
>>54988636
I don't use any old OSes in day to day activities but the funny thing is that if people using really old shit WERE infected with some kind of botnet, it'd be far more obvious because of how much simpler older systems were. One can reasonable acquaint himself with the entirety of a clean W2K install's files, running services, etc. That same task is a hell of a lot harder on Windows 7 and near impossible on Windows 10.
There's something to be said about a system folder that's not an endless bewildering cascade of directories, files, and shortcuts. Look at pic related. Hard to hide shit when things are that straightforward.
>>54988781
>While you're at it maybe you can explain what gave you the idea that the intention is to run 2016 software on a 2000 OS?
Not him, but OP specifically asked if it could still "run shit". It's a fair assumption that means modern programs, because obviously old stuff will still work.
>>54988847
If the system is not from the same era you're going to have a hell of a time trying to find drivers for a laptop running windows 95.
>>54988830
It's on my to-do list.
>>54988847
What are you planning to do, exactly? I don't think I would put 9x/NT on new gear, unless you're just interested in playing around.
I'm not really sure about MP3 bitrate, I would assume it would be just fine with Winamp or whatever other player you decide to go with.
Writing out a long post without quick reply is kind of a bitch, you also have to manually copy post numbers. Your browser will usually bitch about font packs for foreign languages when surfing wikipedia, but it's not really stifling.
Overall though, if exploring old platforms and making them do something useful didn't excite me, I wouldn't be all that into using it as a DD.
>>54988862
OK I see what you say, but it's also a stretch to take "run shit" as meaning Visual Studio 2016 and Adobe Creative Cloud 2016. Windows 2000 can still run the latest version of firefox, flash player, there are older versions of Foobar2000 and MPC-HC that work then a shit load of utilities like 7z that still support 2k.
>>54988742
fuck yea! dude that's pretty bad assed
man i wanna build an old school dualie now like i used to have. i got a LGA1366 xeon dualie setup im building now, but somewhere I have a dual 266mhz PII board and cpu collecting dust maybe ill slap it together into something
>>54988911
>there are older versions of Foobar2000 and MPC-HC
You've reminded me. Do you know which versions those are off-hand? I'm feeling too lazy to go look for them.
>>54988691
https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/ms09-048
>What might an attacker use the vulnerability to do?
An attacker who successfully exploited this vulnerability could run arbitrary code. An attacker could then install programs; view, change, or delete data; or create new accounts with full user rights.
REMOTE CODE EXECUTION anon. This is the patch MS wouldn't make for Windows 2000.
>>54988930
foobar2000 0.9.4.5
MPC 6.4.9.1
This is assuming you didn't patch your system with KernelEx and cannot run Windows XP versions.
>>54988935
Scroll down, you can't do remote execution on windows 2000, at best it's a denial of service attack. Which is fucking retarded since literally anyone who exposes their IP is vulnerable to a DDoS.
>>54988911
Still a pain in the ass to have to research which versions of which programs will work. You might as well run Linux and Wine like the other dude said. Most stuff works these days, and you'd have an up to date OS besides.
Serious question here:
I'm quite sure that there's a good amount of overlap between old OS enthusiasts and programmers. Browsing the modern web on old OSes has proven to be a common issue (even if it runs, it runs like dogshit).
Why not build nice old OS-native lightweight clients for various sites? Seems like damn near every site has a JSON API to tap into, and decoding JSON isn't intense at all. For instance it should be possible to write a kickass 4chan client that does most of what appchan does yet runs well on Windows 2000 or Mac OS 9. Using libspotify and libogg to write a foobar-esque ultralight Spotify client for these OSes shouldn't be hard either.
>>54988992
Dude, on that advisory, search for:
TCP/IP Timestamps Code Execution Vulnerability - CVE-2009-1925
There's more than one vulnerability in the advisory, that's the remote execution one.
A remote code execution vulnerability exists in the Windows TCP/IP stack due to the TCP/IP stack not cleaning up state information correctly. This causes the TCP/IP stack to reference a field as a function pointer when it actually contains other information. An anonymous attacker could exploit the vulnerability by sending specially crafted TCP/IP packets to a computer that has a service listening over the network. An attacker who successfully exploited this vulnerability could take complete control of an affected system. An attacker could then install programs; view, change, or delete data; or create new accounts with full user rights.
>>54988962
Very nice, thank you.
>>54988993
You'd think, but it actually isn't too bad, most archives like oldversion/oldapps will allow you to quickly find the last version that works on your operating system, likewise with simply googling the software you want and putting "windows 2000" next to it. It's a little more work than just going to the site and clicking "download", but nothing awful.
For big-name software, I honestly just tend to stick to stuff that was around at the same time, you aren't usually missing out on too much, though I do miss text modifiers from Photoshop CS sometimes.
>>54989004
I've thought of that myself as well, too bad I personally don't have the expertise for it.
Wouldn't mind a nice legacy-friendly news scraper or bullshit-free Wikipedia client though.
>>54989033
>sending specially crafted TCP/IP packets to a computer that has a service listening over the network
This seems like quite an involved attack that will take a motivated individual targeting you specifically to pull off, also that sounds like you'd need some kind of service running off of your system, I'm pretty sure most of us actually running 2K have our systems well hidden behind firewalls, at least I do.
I'm not really one for advocating using older platforms like this to run mission-critical services that can be accessed by the public.
Bitch I'm able to play overwatch on a Lenovo y50 backwardly rooped with Windows ME
>>54989033
That requires an open listening port and port forwarding enabled in your router. You're not going to get haxored surfing the web.
>he runs an OS the vendor won't even list in it its security bulletins because it's so old
you could be gettin buttfuxed and you wouldn't even know it until your bank accounts got drained
no reason to do this unless you're a stupid nostalgiafaggot
>>54989184
>being dumb enough to use online banking or other financial compromising services on ANY networked device
take your bald reddit man and shove it up your ass
>>54987443
Dumb nigger cunt
>>54989218
i've never been compromised
you know that any blackhat who discovers a security flaw in a microsoft EOL product is going to keep that shit 0day forever right? Just because there will always be retards like you.
sucks to have to live in the stone age because you're scared as fuck because you refuse to upgrade your OS. You know this is a technology board right?
>>54989184
That kind of breach is better accomplished by malware than somehow managing to get through a firewall or exploiting an obscure bug in an operating system with less market share than System V primarily used by hobbyists and retrogamers.
Besides, on hardware this old, you know when someone is doing something they shouldn't be.
>>54989251
>Just because there will always be retards like you.
Yeah, I'm sure a blackhat is going to waste his valuable time exploiting an operating system with less than 0.1% global market share on networked devices with nothing of value on them when there are scores of insecure servers vulnerable to dictionary attacks and scores of dipshits will literally line up and outright authorize their owning with sketchy warez.
>sucks to have to live in the stone age because you're scared as fuck because you refuse to upgrade your OS. You know this is a technology board right?
You realize that none of us have ever said anywhere that we use these operating systems as our one and only, right? Most people "worthy" of a technology board have more than one computer and enjoy technology beyond web surfing and making games go fast.
>>54989251
oh sure one neet faggot is hoarding all the w2k 0day exploits with his finger on the trigger for the day i load up 4chan on an outdated browser so he can steal all my dank memes.
>no one said about _NSAKEY yet
For real?
>>54989357
Because it's basically meaningless? It's likely part of an NSA security certification process that all Windows systems go through.
>>54989357
>feds couldnt catch the san Bernardino shooters who professed their jihad on twitter
>i should worry about them backdooring in to my meme pc ans monitoring my shitppsting
WINE runs everything from XP & previous days better than they did
>>54989342
This. Nobody is doing anything critical or even halfway important with machines running shit as old as Win2K. If someone actually manages to get in through some stroke of cosmic luck he can have all the animu wallpapers and old games he wants.
>>54989440
too bad it requires contact with GNU/Cancer, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU + Cancer
>>54989440
wine is hardly stable for about 80% of the software it supports.
>>54989412
Its because we need better spying honestly. Like keyloggers linked to ip and vpns / proxies should be illegal
>>54987443
it can be used but i wouldn't connect it to internet
>>54989626
No it's because we have that better spying
For every NEET downloading what might be legally declared CP eventually being logged and checked over just in case, there's a few bytes and a few seconds of lost resources the feds could have used better.
Targeted surveillance works the best, but it really only works with heavy profiling, and that triggers the everloving fuck out of people
>spy on everyone equally hurr durr
>how dare you assume that muslims are more likely to be radical muslims
And things amerifats will never say:
>How dare you assume that fat, ugly, antisocial white guys are more likely to be pedophiles
>>54987443
OP can I take this time to recommend an nlited XP install instead of 2000, you can get it running lightening fast (and rock solid) and you will have less problems installing and running the most up to date software (like browsers).
>>54989763
XP can run lightning fast on a $200 PC it doesn't need debloating really at all at this point.
>>54988222
Yep, this is how it worked for me, upon reinstalling, i usually had that virus that made svchost stop and reboot the machine.
I had to unplug the PC from the interwebs.
>>54989763
XP64 is pretty gud.
>>54989720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA
>>54989412
>feds couldnt catch the san Bernardino shooters who professed their jihad on twitter
>he believes that story
lel
>>54988742
Nice.
