I'm moving from Windows 10 to Arch Linux. What should I expect, /g/?
misery
A disaster.
>>54961828
if you don't have experience with the GNU operating system, you should try something more newbie friendly, not Arch.
try solus, zorin, or even manjaro.
>>54961837
>>54961843
2 poos have been deposited in your loos
>>54961828
extasy
Things breaking down
systemd
>>54961874
kys
>>54961828
don't fall for the meme
arch is great if you already have a firm grasp on linux, otherwise stick to a major distro
>>54961828
> What should I expect /g/?
A timesink, with minimal outcome.
>>54961828
You will be fine, just remember to install gentoo.
>>54961828
The install procedure is not representative of actually using the OS (for most people). In the install procedure you (mostly) just have to configure all the stuff you usually would for a Windows install, you're just doing it via command line utilities.
Once you're out of that you can install a Desktop Environment like the KDE or Gnome and it'll be back to something more like what you're used to.
If you don't install a desktop environment like the KDE though, be prepared for a whole pile of Googling to work out how to do basic system tasks like mounting disks and putting the thing to sleep. (Not saying the answers you find on Google are very difficult, it's just there's lots of things to learn.
Also if you're on a laptop with NVIDIA Optimus graphics I would recommend just sticking to using the integrated chip, using the discrete one is usually way more trouble than it's worth.
>>54961920
don't listen, all you need to know is in the wiki and the beginner guide will get you set-up in no time:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/beginners'_guide
>>54961828
>What should I expect, /g/?
Wasting your time and moving back to Windows after 1 or 2 weeks.
>>54961828
>pain in the anus area, probably caused by that edgy logo
>>54961872
If you can read you can use Arch.
>>54961828
You have actually never moved from arch you degenerate.
Why would anyone promote that piece of shit distro? You guys just holding back the whole open source movement with that.
Arch fags.
>>54961837
>>54961843
t. Rinoosh Paktel
>>54961828
arch is the reason people hate linux, just use ubuntu like a normal fucking human
>>54962007
What's the problem with Arch?
>>54962032
>>54962025
>>54962007
>>54961991
>>54961989
>>54961960
>>54961828
>autism
>time wasting
>no games
>poor driver support
>nothing working how it must out of the box
>annoying problems
>pacman -Syu
>elitism
>things not working out of nowhere
What have I missed?
>>54962032
the users pushing it on noobs
see >>54962044
>>54962048
blini
>>54961828
Stay with Windows, Linux a shit
>>54962007
Because you have to run fdisk to install it or get your own script?
All linux distros break with the same frequency
package maintainers are fucking retards. only bundled .app-style packages straight from upstream can save us from this hell. then the distro devs can focus on maintaining a good base system (>implying any of them know how to program).
t. been distro hopping for 7 years
>>54961828
Nothing but a big ol' waste of time.
>B-but I'm learning Unix commands and setting up Arch is really beneficial for your computer knowledge!
No. Stop it.
>>54961828
Expect your dad to get mad when you fuck up his Arch install.
>>54962048
>What have I missed?
Actual points
>>54962048
>autism
>time wasting
Or
>no games
Pick one.
>>54961828
To reinstall Windows a week later
>>54961828
Instant ascension to godhood.
>>54961828
To have a hard time installing, then to be enlightened.
Breaking Xorg
>>54962288
meme harder.
>>54961828
You can make it look a lot like Windows 7 if you use KDE.
>>54961828
It's CLI. Not graphical.
>>54962381
>>54962381
>what is a Desktop environment
>>54961828
Lots of broken stuff, lack of quality software. Lots of terminal busywork.
>>54961828
You'll be back after you spend a day trying to configure Xorg.
Jeeze. You faggots make me lol. I'm glad I'm part of the Gentoo community. Arch nemesis talk shit but they're just not enlightened yet.
There's tone of distros to choose from. I say go with Debian or if you want go with Arch but it's not supported to run without Systemd.
>>54961828
Bunch of retards trying to tell you why Arch is shit even though they don't actually know themselves
>>54961958
Just emerged from this hell on Debian. Managed to get things working with bumblebee but it is VERY easy to cock up.
Arch is for people who need their computer to need them. When everything is working, they realize they have no use for their computer and then they feel sad :-(
I'm a linux noob and my first proper distro was Arch. I installed it on a VM first as an exercise which wasn't as hard as I thought. I made some dumb mistakes but I learned a lot from them.
I felt confident enough to install it on my laptop and I currently like it more than Windows on there. It hasn't broken in anyway so I'm going to keep it.
Wouldn't use it on my desktop still (though I'd not use any Linux on it t.b.h)
>>54962048
>autism
>time wasting
stupid memes
>elitism
>no games
>poor driver support
>nothing working how it must out of the box
false
>annoying problems
like?
>pacman -Syu
not sure what's your point
>things not working out of nowhere
this might be the only legitimate point, but it's the trade-off for having a bleeding edge rolling release distro. for what it's worth i haven't had anything break that made my os unusable in the 2 years i'm using arch now.
>>54961828
Can't wait until we have a dozen more "HELP I BROKE MY ARCH INSTALL WHY IS THERE NO GRAPHIXS AFTER INSTALL".
>>54961828
Expect to learn how to install and configure Arch, which is not useful for anything else, but maybe valuable in and of itself.
>>54962684
>padded pals
>Arch
This is why Lord Almighty wants to burn us all down.
>>54962997
>like?
absolute shit-tier default configs
I like Arch but I had to work my way up to it. I think Arch (next to Debian) is the greatest distro of all time, but I would never expect a new user to jump from Windows to Arch. >>54961828, you should try Debian stable for a while, Debian Testing for a little bit, then Debian Unstable (don't let the name deter you), then go to Antergos, then make the jump to Arch. Good luck! Also, not all Arch users are obnoxious dickheads. Use what works for you.
>>54961872
Gentoo was my first linux distro; been going on for about 5 years now.
>xorg is broken lol
Install ubuntu
>>54963345
Have you ever used arch and got your xorg broken or are you just repeating the meme?
You will have to learn how to use it, There are a few torrents in the wiki: (CBT nuggets LPI 101)
>>54961837
>>54961843
>>54961892
>>54961967
These anons are right, Arch is a meme distro. If you want stability, go with Debian or Ubuntu instead. If you're new to Linux, Arch will make you hate it.
>>54962007
B-but i have to be contrarian!
Also, Ubuntu has spyware.
>>54963399
>Ubuntu
Why would you switch from Windows to an even worse OS?
>>54961828
No hand holding and having to figure out problems on your own
>>54963405
Xubuntu
did you read the fucking wiki?
>>54963450
Really just copying and pasting the procedure from the wiki.
>>54961828
Spending 5 hours troubleshooting why your volume controls on the keyboard aren't working.
Fedora exists and is a good balance between bleeding edge and easy to use. But everyone forgets about it...
>>54961872
absolutely not. Kubuntu, Fedora KDE spin or OpenSUSE
>>54963472
Does Fedora still make you do a bunch of stuff to play an mp3?
>>54963446
>>54963446
What's with Ubuntu?
>>54963495
It's an easy to use distro that's popular. It gets a lot of hate here for the same rationale that makes Arch popular.
>>54963021
If someone just switched to wayland and can't make a connection to why something wouldn't work, they shouldn't be using arch
>>54963488
Works with cmus. Probably need to install the gstreamer codecs if you want to use rhythmbox though. You can also just install "fluendo" from the internet, like what is included in ubuntu.
>>54962025
This is definitely funny and all, but i'd just like to point out that a good university will never require you to turn in your homework in .... .doc .... format.
The standard format is .pdf, and since you can create PDFs with Latex, it is entirely up to you whether you want to use Latex or a regular text editor.
I actually have a guy in my class at university who uses Arch and is a bit of a Latex expert, and he doesnt have a problem turning in any of his homework.
personally, i never figured out how to effectively use it. I used it for math class once, but outside of that i dont see the point
>>54963495
>>54963510
To actually get Ubuntu running the way I wanted it to run took way more effort than was worth it. The base install is too dumbed down. If you're COMPLETELY new to linux, it's great for learning because you can get to know the linux lingo in a relatively forgiving environment. The thing that really irks me with Ubuntu, though, is the spyware and sale of user data that they collect.
>>54963580
>install "fluendo" from the internet
That's why Fedora remains unpopular. Its official repositories are tiny. Also the name hasn't aged well.
>>54963456
No, it's actually almost never like that
Archlinux is cool but i prefere Debian
I installed arch as a complete linux noob. I can tell you it will be difficult and it will become personal. just like how as a child you didn't understand why your parents were hard on you, but when you mature you realized it was because they loved you. through the trial that is setting it up you will learn the true beauty of linux. You and arch will become inseparable battle hardened allies.
>Inb4: most autistic post in the world.
>>54961872
>GNU operating system
What the fuck is a GNU OS.....
>>54963724
>mfw arch users can't pass LPIC-1
>>54963724
did you use tools in archlinux , you did not find in debian?
>>54963372
I've had my xorg destroy my settings. So I had to go through the horrifying process of copying my backup file and renaming it.
>>54963768
>I installed arch as a complete noob.
>>54963268
>I think Arch (next to Debian)
Debian is legendary, arch is shit, how dare you even presume its anywhere close to debian
>>54963810
you use Architect ?
or normal way ?
>>54963488
Back when i was using Fedora core 5 and fedora 6 all i had to do was enable a repo for 3rd party and binary blobs
>get computer
>need OS
>have Ubuntu install itself in 2 minutes (it's really that fast on a SSD)
>git pull configs and projects
>zero to productive in less than five minutes
>>54963866
Normal way.
>>54963901
yes Ubuntu is cool for this until you got an ssd
>>54963955
you are using net tools ?
First time i had install arch, i was disaponted because ifconfig was not working
>>54963580
You only need to install one file to get mp3 working: gstreamer-plugins-ugly.
>>54961828
"With great power comes great responsibility"
It's awesome, the user is in control but expect some headaches..
You make me want to retry install archlinux ^^
>>54963455
Wheres the wiki?
Have been playing around with different *nix dists
Fedora, Debian and Lubunut
Everything worked most of the time
And one day I decided to install arch for the hell of it, everything had to be googled because that stupid wiki always miss out on some crusial points so it almost works but not completely,
wasted shitloads of time just to get everything to work and when it was all said and done, I´ve could have done the exact same things in half of the time in Deb or Fedora
So yea it´s completely pointless
daily maintenance instead of being productive
>>54964001
My laptops network card was not supported but once I installed the proper drivers it worked flawlessly.
>>54964154
but is 'ifconfig' cmd working ?
>>54964154
how did you find/get/install the drivers without network card
>>54964148
I do far more maintenance on windows than on any linux distro, I don't know where this muh constant maintenance comes from
>>54964197
don't speak about windows update, it's bullshit
>>54961828
Use xubuntu.
>>54964222
no, I'm talking about that shitty ass defragmenting, ccleaner, malwarebytes + managing every single software update separately routine, whereas on linux I type a line for upgrading everything and that's it
>>54964194
usb drive.
>>54964186
Yes it works
use antergos, don't bother with the CLI installer with no reason (in 2016)
>>54961828
>>54963399
I went from windows 7 straight into arch without keeping windows.
Best decision I have made.
I was pissed off at basic things at first, like "why isnt my line in workign" or "why wouldnt dhcp be enabled at first" or "who gives a fuck about my time zone, just let me set the time and roll withit" now its "whatever "pacman -S * \n nano *.conf""
>>54965115
What do you do with your Arch after you've updated it, hmmmm? :^)
>>54965156
>implying I update it
Idk, home computer things really.
Sometimes Ill listen to music, but usually browse 4chin or porn. Maybe watch a movie or thirty.
>>54961872
Plus one for solus
>>54965378
I'm foken hyped for 1.2 tonight, it looks pretty good
>>54965418
Okay ikey
>>54961957
kek
>>54961874
why put them in the loo where they will never find them? put them on the beach like all the other poos
>>54961883
see what I mean? this is what you can expect from people who rally for this distro.
"ecstasy" brother, if your shit browser had spellcheck you'd have noticed.
>>54961828
You will find a operating system.
>>54962346
wtf is this now, delete that theme asap
Anyone got the image of how hard it is to program a drop down box in Win10?
>>54963446
Now Ubuntu have suport and colaboration from Intel, so the life is more beatifull. I like my terminal, but don't like spend all the weekend fixing crap...
>>54961828
Give it a test.
Download https://xysun.me/static/flinux-archlinux.7z
It's (an already set up) archlinux on windows.
Give it a try.
do some 'pacman -Syu's test it.
If you like it change it.
Or, you could just use archlinux on windows.
>>54965617
I seriously hope you are not trying to imply that Intel working on linux is something new.
>>54965765
yes, i don't have to fix the bright control of the screen, the button of my computer is working rigth, and the fan control too, sensors, etc. everythink with the last OS upgrade
I installed Ubuntu on my laptop Sunday after getting frustrated with Windows 10. I actually really like it so far, did I make a mistake?
>>54965951
Yes, ubuntu is too childish, install a real OS, like archlinux
>>54965979
>"I can't Hello World in English!"
>>54965951
No, Ubuntu is a great distro.
>>54962346
Do you have a link for that theme?
>>54965979
What will archLinux allow me to do that Ubuntu won't?
how the fucking long does pacman -Suy takes?
>>54965547
Have this instead.
>>54966050
Feel accomplished without actually doing anything, like a video game.
>>54963399
>If you want stability, go with Debian or Ubuntu instead
I quadruple boot Arch and Ubuntu and I have to say,Ubuntu isn't any more stable than Arch.Especially if you like to fuck around with customizing.
>>54966050
install aur packages
stability between different grafical enviroments.
And get installed easily in different platforms.
If Arch breaks you'll have a clue on what's going on.
If Ubuntu breaks you'll spend hours searching forums, asking on irc, only to give up and reinstall everything.
>>54966050
The Arch Way
>>54966050
use pacman
>>54962346
im 12 and what is dis
I don't recommend Arch for noobs. Use whatever flavor of Ubuntu first so you can learn the command line and get comfortable with it.
Mint is really good for noobs but the packages are ancient (same with Debian Stable) so I don't recommend these for a personal user. They are so ancient you'd probably want to only use them for a server.
will cygwin help me learn linux
>>54961828
Problems, a lot of them.
If arch is too hard, just use antergos.
>>54966217
Yes, by enabling you to ssh to another computer running GNU/Linux. That other machine can be virtual. Codecademy has a nice bash course. The best way to learn is by using it to do something.
>>54966251
sshd doesn't work well on cygwin, it starts throwing lots of user errors, since openssh thinks its on linux but users on windows don't work as users on linux.
>>54966281
Oh, really? I've not experienced any issues. They may be happening, but I'm not experiencing them.
>>54961828
I will tell you about my experience with Arch.
>have a shitty old laptop that was slow as fuck
>why not install linux on it?
>"Screw the pleb distros I want the real deal, besides it will probably be fun to try something hard"
>install it. Worked the third time because I fucked up something and couldn't be bother to
troubleshoot.
Other than that it was pretty smooth sailing, I only used it to watch anime though. So I don't know if people who are saying it will be awful are just exaggerating, or I just got lucky.
Anyway just try it, it's not like it will cost anything(except time).
Here, have a nice wallpaper for it.
>>54966043
Plasma theme: Excalibur
Kwin theme: Seven Black
Qt and Gtk follow Breeze Dark.
Stock Icons.
>>54966526
Thanks, have you done anything special with font rendering or is it default Moto Sans?
>I'm moving from Windows 10 to Arch Linux. What should I expect, /g/?
The easiest to maintain rolling distro, a quite 'barebones' base system which you can easily build upon due to a wide range of quickly updated packages from the official repos, and practically anything else you might need from the user maintained repo (AUR).
Long time (9+ years) Arch user here, only thing that could get me to leave would be something like NixOS/GuixSD which I must say is the first interesting thing happening on the distro scene in ages.
That said, if you want a smooth transition from Windows 10, you'd probable be better off starting with one of the *Buntu distros.
>>54963399
I've been running arch for nearly 3 years and it has failed less than Windows or Ubuntu
>>54961828
unironically install gentoo
>>54965704
Holy fuck m8 this is archlinux on wandows, top kek
>>54966831
damn, it doesn't come with pgrep, nor sed, nor ack, nor ps....
and I can't find the binaries for them either.
HELL
>>54961828
BTRFS and snapper.
>>54966432
Any SO can run videos just fine tho
>>54966693
Im on the same boat as you, I've been using Arch for almost 2 years now and I've only reinstalled it 2 times and both of those reinstalls were because I was too lazy to fix an problem I created while fiddling with config files.
>>54967147
Worked much better with Linux than with Windows though. The reason I choose Arch was mostly because I wanted to try it.
>>54967406
I see. What player you were using on Windows?
>>54967558
The problem is long gone since I have a computer that's actually good now.
The problem was when streaming stuff from lovemyanime, I think it was that I used at the time. It was kinda choppy on Windows, on Linux it was a lot less choppy.
>>54966831
tfwno pgrep
>>54961828
if you don't like read, you gonna love it.
>>54963495
>>54963510
>>54963635
Ubuntu has been cited for collecting user data on multiple occasions. Why move from one OS that takes meta-data plus some to another that does the same? one of the nice things about switching to linux is the perfomance boost.
>>54961828
I am making the same hop myself but instead of arch I want to go with Kali. If I am right, I believe it uses debian as a base and the KDE desktop while top heavy, feels nice. All the networking tools are there plus my regular utilities already baked in.
>>54962025
>he thinks arch compiles things from source
>he thinks pacman has ever broken anything
it's so sad that this artist's humor couldn't have been used to attack the numerous things that are actually wrong with arch.
>>54962025
this is gentoo actually, pacman is smooth, but this is a meme.
Gentoo faggots do have to deal with this sheet, lol top kek
>>54961828
Really good times desu. Exactly what I did, haven't looked back in 6 months now. To each their own though.
If you're willing to learn, Arch is NOT hard, people on this board are probably retarded if they think it is.
>>54966831
Well, I don't know anymore.
>>54961828
you're an idiot, start with Ubuntu or Trisquel, then to Debian Minimal netinstall then to Arch or Parabola. Switching from an EVRYTHING IS GUI LOL COMPUTERS ARE EASY environment to an arch environment will fuck you over in the long run, start off small
>>54963746
What everyone calls Linux is just the Kernel, it has a cooler name so people call it by the kernel when in fact the actual Operating System is the GNU OS. Dont say GNU/Linux, just say GNU.
>>54972424
I replaced my friend's Debian/GNU/Linux with Debian/GNU/kFreeBSD and he still hasn't noticed. That's how little most users interact with the kernel.
>>54972407
>implying CLI isn't easy
>>54972424
I'm using the Arch Linux Operating System, fuck off with your GNU autism
>>54965302
This.
Arch goobers are always saying shit like "it doesn't break for me, and I've been using it for years" but then you find out they don't do shit.
I do graphics work (gimp), video editing (kdenlive), write and record music, as well as dozens if of other things with my pc.
One of if those functions used to break for at least a day at least once every two months when I ran arch for two years, before I got tired of constantly fixing shit and just switched to Ubuntu studio.
Basically, all the idiots that say arch and gentoo are "super stable" are doing shit you could do on a tablet.
>>54972796
It's really only unstable if you're some retard who uses only testing repos just cause they're newer. Otherwise it works fucking fine and the stuff about it breaking is just memes and you can run into the same problems half the time on Ubuntu or some shit too.
>>54972663
https://www.archlinux.org/about
>Arch Linux is an independently developed, i686/x86-64 general purpose GNU/Linux distribution
Freedom
>>54961828
I made the Linux switch just over a year ago now. I started out with Mint Cinnamon, which I used and enjoyed for roughly 8 months. It started slowly degrading, becoming sluggish and slightly buggy. I felt it wasn't minimalistic at all, and I was having issues with Firefox.
I then decided to switch to Arch. It took me a few installs to get it just the way I want it to be, but now I'm using it every day for general computer stuff. I play WoW on it just fine, even as a Mythic raider, otherwise I use it for smaller games, watching streams, listening to music and talking on Discord.
I run pacman -Syu every once in a while, probably not as often as I should, but so far nothing broke.
I also have a second computer that I can easily switch to that's a lot more powerful and runs Windows 10. I use it to play games, but everyday use feels choppy compared to my Arch, so I quickly switch back after I'm done playing.
>>54961828
Heaven.
>>54973016
What are you doing on Arch after you're done playing? :^)
>>54973016
>discord
>watching game streams
>windows 10
>retail wow
Why did you even bother trying Arch? Just to attempt to fit in here? I want /v/ to leave
>>54973034
Shitpost on /g/, what else?
>>54973050
>discord
It's what my friends use for communication. Better than Skype, which is the other normalfag alternative.
>watching game streams
I never said game streams. It's usually racing streams, Formula 1, Formula E, Rallycross.
>windows 10
For playing certain games, yeah.
>retail wow
Stockholm syndrome. At least I don't have to pay real money for it anymore.
I tried Arch because I heard good things about it. If I wanted to fit in here, I'd jump on the hatewagon instead.
>>54961828
>what to expect?
since you're a faggot with too much time on his hands, expect nothing different: before you had a colorful screen to stare at, and after you shall have a colorful screen to stare at.
>>54961828
move to ubuntu.
expect a working operating system
>>54973294
The least you could do to repent is play vanilla, TBC, or WotLK instead
>>54973336
Why? I already played those to death and I have no desire to do so again, especially when I know nothing new will be added, ever.
>>54973294
So Arch users don't actually use their computers for anything they couldn't do on a console or tablet?
>>54973599
Pretty sure that applies to most people who use computers for "every day stuff", and not Arch users in particular.
I don't do work on my home computer. I work when I'm at work.
A hard install
What distro is mostly used for servers, I've heard people recommend CentOS and Debian stable. Looking for something lightweight.
>>54973756
RHEL/CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu, SUSE
CentOS is good if you're looking to get relevant certifications, otherwise Ubuntu or Debian will be less hassle thanks to their much larger official repositories.
>>54962684
Diaperfags are truly the cancer of this world and this is why aliens won't visit us.
>>54961828
A 10 hours first intallation, then you get used to systemd after +40 hours of further configuration, then you realise openbox is so much better than your Cinnamon WM, but doing 400 lines of XML because no one on the entire internet have upload the default config files is not your thing and then too late, you already installed Archbang.
>>54973974
Forgot to mention you later realise that Archang doesn't use systemd anymore, so you just kys.
>>54961828
If you're a /v/ child, the odds are you throw a tantrum and shitpost about Linux on /g/ in a few weeks.
>>54961828
I went straight from OS X to Arch and don't regret it. At the beginning, it's a lot to learn, a lot of wiki pages to read, and a lot of headaches.
But once you get the hang of it and have a decent setup and a nice compilation of config files, you are gonna love it more than anything else. It's not easy, but it's simple.
If something breaks, it's barely the systems fault but yours. That's what I like about it. There's nothing you need to fix that you didn't break.
On the other hand, if you just want to install a distro and start working immediatly, try something else.
>>54975192
So you're using Arch to feel accomplished without actually doing anything? :^)
>>54975245
Nah, I'm using arch because there's no bloat and nothing I need to take care of which I didn't want to have in the first place.
I also hate DEs.
The fact that Arch is typified as a "tryhard" distro here just speaks to how trylittle neo-/g/ is.
I haven't used Linux in half a decade (BSD now) but Arch literally does everything for you then dumps you into a fully-functional shell. That's what Linux should look like. After that it's just a matter of picking your packages and waiting some more. Can somebody explain what's tryhard or 1337 about that?
>>54973756
>tfw my 9TB ZFS pool runs on Arch
All my other minor servers run Debian stable. It's very lightweight. The weakest server has 768MB RAM and performs its tasks just fine. Would recommend.
>>54975299
It's not ubuntu, where you don't have to give a fuck about anything computers
>>54961828
>tfw I moved from arch to win10
>tfw everything just works
>tfw it's got way better software
>tfw fell for the windows is bad meme
>>54961828
You have to do quite a bit yourself when using arch
this can be ablessing and a curse. Just depends whether you like customizing your os or nah
anyway good luck to you op
>>54969884
When people say ubuntu, they usually mean ubuntu flavors, not just ubuntu. You are welcome
>>54962063
my gopnik
