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Assuming that's real, it's pretty sad. Openly mocking free software activism doesn't mean you need to pick a fight with GNU. What's the big deal with its existence? I'm using it, in some way or another, to make this reply. The world is not ending as a result.
How sad. He was doing so well against the SJWs. He's obviously a bit biased; in a world with only Free Software, he probably wouldn't be filthy rich.
Now that he switched from mocking a three letter acronym that I don't like to mocking a three letter acronym that I do like, I think notch can go fuck himself.
>made a nonfree java game
>supports the botnet
>/g/ is surprised
didn't he say he was eventually going to make minecraft open source?
oh right that was before he sold out
>Requiring a tool to only be used to build things that fit your own political views is not being free or open.
pretty reasonable opinion
What the fuck is with this cunt? Why can't he jsut 'retire' to being an angel invest and get startups he likes off the ground.
All he seems to do is bitch and cry about being rich and lonely and argue with people who don't share his world view.
No, I do not what? Is he hating on open source or just GNU?
>>54936874
>@unquietwiki Open source is fine and a great way to share knowledge and collaborate on important tools. It's GNU I don't like.
>>54936874
The license mostly and FSF for that matter.
>>54936881
That is perfectly reasonable then. GNU can be very militant in their views and Richard Stallman, while a brilliant man, has autism.
I literally just unfollowed him and came here to moan because of that tweet.
>>54936864
Right? I thought after he sold out he'd at least have the decency to quietly die in a ditch.
>>54936853
What FOSS tools require you to build things that fit their own political views?
notch is a /v/-tier memester who hates SJWs in order to get points with reddit. he should be ignored at all costs
>>54936895
>and Richard Stallman, while a brilliant man, has autism
and notch doesnt?
>>54936895
But the GNU Project != GNU. Especially using the word "virus" it sounds like he's calling out the software and that's plain odd. It would have made sense if he talked about the people, not the software.
>>54936823
/thread
>>54936881
Why exactly doesn't he like GNU? Is it because of Stallman's toe jam diet? Does he consider the FSF's views too extreme?
>>54936903
This unfortunately, used to respect Notch more, but since the whole cunt thing and now this, it looks like he's bored out of his mind and trying way too hard to troll.
>>54936913
Good point. Notch created Autism The Game. I guess they were either going to see eye to eye or hate each other with the power of 1000 suns.
>>54936774
Notch is a has-been and a hack.
People praise his skills at hackathons even tho he's just regurgitating 3d graphics boilerplate he's written 1000 times before.
He can't even initiate a new game because all his money has made him complacent as fuck.
>>54936941
>He can't even initiate a new game because all his money has made him complacent as fuck.
If I had 2.5 billion in the bank, I would buy a private home on the beach and shitpost from it between baby making sessions with 18 18 year old girlfriends. He never needs to work again.
>>54936881
based
GNU is literally communism
>>54937029
that's fine and all, but he still likes to pretend he's a legitimate software developer.
>>54937193
>not liking communism
>hating the next step of social evolution
>>54937724
>evolution
Fuck off monkey.
>>54937029
>If I had 2.5 billion in the bank, I would
No one cares Billy.
>>54936843
>supports the botnet
He's said that he doesn't like Microsoft's shady shit plenty of times
What you guys don't realize is that free software activists are as annoying as vegans or SJWs
>>54936810
I wish this retarded, ignorant meme would die, along with the moronic redditors that spew it. Free software != communism idiot.
>>54936774
Notch opposes free software because free software isn't lining his pockets with gold.
>>54936849
he still might, we dont know.
maybe he'll buy it back from ms once it's worthless
eventually is a relative term
>>54938075
Then why are most free software developers poor and rapists?
>>54936899
(((CLISP)))
Itt: retards taking this seriously
>>54936774
/g/'s asphyxiation on washy internet celebrities is annoying
communist freetards BTFO
>conservatard is retarded
>being surprised
His MRA shit gave it away.
>>54938397
numale betacuck detected
>>54938397
kys leftard :^)
>>54936915
He's referring to the license
>>54938038
>He's said that he doesn't like Microsoft's shady shit plenty of times
>sold Minecraft IP to Microsoft for 2.5B$
Get your shit straight, he obviously likes their money.
>another beehive to kick
SAVAGE
>>54938038
>>54936774
I can imagine his pain finding a great Java library to use in his proprietary project, but the library is GPL licensed and he can't use it unless he opens up his proprietary project.
>how am I going to hide my spyware now?
>how am I going to make billions now?
>GPL is a virus!
>>54936774
I'm sorry, young man/miss, but Minecraft is an underaged topic on this forum, and therefore disallowed.
As 4chan is an 18+ website, we have to report you to the moderators. It's okay! Yes, I know, but don't worry! You can come back once you're old enough to participate on the boards.
We appreciate your interest, and look forward to the day you can join us on this website! Take care, and good luck!
>>54936788
>free software activism
So free software activism=thinking proprietary is evil?
>>54938981
Yes.
>>54938964
>Minecraft is an underaged topic on this forum
hownew.ru
>>54938964
>trying this hard
>>54938997
It's only natural to think that.
Vegans claim that eating meat is absolutely horrible and that no one should be doing it.
Same goes for free software activists.
>>54936774
And of course this is the same retard which made his shitty game in Java.
He's an absolute retard and people should not be listening to him.
>>54936774
Notch for sticky
Fuck Stallsham
>>54936903
Absolutely nothing wrong with hating SJWs and showing it.
Man I fucking love Notch.
He is so right about GNU.
Opensource is great but GNU is cancer.
>>54936774
Literally who?
so /g/ just went full 360 + moonwalk on Notch in the span of two days
you just can't make this shit up
>>54939660
Someone that's worth 1.5 billion dollars more than you. All thanks to non free software.
Boy did he irritate you fuckers. He seems to have hit the nail in the head.
For those of you unaware, GNU is the same sort of cancer. The same sort of people who passively try to impose their world views. People who disrespect you for not choosing to make your own software. People who disrespect you for not choosing to take gender studies.
Both are cults. Both have people who are very aggressive about different opinions. "All proprietary software is bad". "All white males are evil". Put these two groups in an island and there won't be anyone alive in a week.
GNU and Stallmanists in general at just fanatics.
Notch hit the nail on the head.
He had guts to mouth off at the SJWs; I don't care about his software preferences.
He's okay in my eyes.
You can't call software free if it comes with a little text file that tells what you can or CAN'T do with it. Truly free software comes with no strings attached. GNU and FSF advocate anti-proprietary software, not free software.
>>54940605
I don't get it
>>54940605
Not him, but here's how I understood it.
>OSS cults are virtually harmless
>FLOSS cults attack anything which doesn't conform to them
>>54939984
I like this new meme where people pretend to be retarded.
"all murder is bad" is a statement about murder, which you think is bad. When the consensus is that murder is bad, it can be used as a law.
You can look at examples of murder and see if there is any good situations and come to the conclusion that it is a true or false statement.
When you do the same with software, the list of proprietary software which doesn't do terrible things to the user is fairly small.
There is valid reasons to keep software proprietary, but not software which is targeted to personal use.
>>54938365
uh I think you mean fixation bro
>>54940756
are you retarded?
yes
Man, if it wasn't for the literal billions in his pocket I would feel sorry for him. Minecraft was just a fluke and now he's reduced to being just a twitter shitposter.
Of course the person on the good side of proprietary software (that is, the person that gets to mistreat its users) and made billions with it would be afraid of freedom.
>>54936774
>get bought out by microsoft, proceed to shit on free software
gee, it's like there's a clause in his contract
>>54939038
a good friend of mine is vegan and doesn't give a flying shit about the meat and other shit I eat
some people are just not some self entitled x-activism police force
>>54940800
Including other free software, as they see free software that is not GNU as traitors
>>54936774
B A S E D
>>54936788
>WE ARE LEADING LE REVOLUTION XD
>p-pls no bully ;_;
What are freetards so pathetic
>>54936896
Top kek! The jealousy is real!
what a surprise, the guy who made a billion on a fluke of an idea that took a ton of inspiration from previous games, and received so many contributions from the community (music, game ideas, smooth lighting code, efficient chunk code to name a few) while making promises he never delivered on (future releases of the game for free, modding api) thinks that giving back to the community you take from is cancer
I mean, all props to notch, just goes to show that with mediocre skills but a great idea can net anyone a huge sum of money so they can fulfil their dream of becoming the greatest internet troll
>>54940675
>if it comes with a little text file that tells what you can or CAN'T do with it.
the freedoms the gpl and other similar licences convey is that the software that uses or chooses to use gpl code will always be able to be freely distributed, modified, and changed -- by anybody
if you're trying to argue that the bsd licence conveys more freedom because corporations and private individuals can gobble the code up and never have to pay it forward then you're either delusional or a false flagging faggot
>>54936849
He actually said that he wanted to release it into the public domain because he didn't like restrictive open source licenses.
>>54942059
B A S E S
The guy has a billion dollars and is bored out of his mind and unhappy, he seems to have moved to online trolling to piss people off and make himself happy.
Either that or some people just don't like GNU. Some prefer the DWTFYWPL or MIT, and some prefer having tighter control of their code.
I understand the motivation behind the GNU GPL but not every software is a fit for it. I also feel that the Tivoization clause in the GPLv3 created a divide over a relatively small issue. I know *why* they did it but it fractured the community and a lot of people chose to stick to GPLv2.
>>54942095
>WAAH WAAH HOW DARE HE SAY THINGS I DUN LIKE
>H-he's a troll
The cry of every low iq cretin
>>54938879
>>54938904
I'm not sure what anyone would have expected considering Minecraft isn't open-source.
>>54942095
>Either that or some people just don't like GNU.
you said it yourself, the gpl isn't a good fit for some projects, but the idea that the gpl is cancerous and infects software (and this isn't directed to you but to the subject of OP) is purely a result of lazy ignorant developers that suddenly realise they can't just take any open source code and put it in their projects while ignoring the licence, the gpl is 100% *opt-in*, if you don't like the gpl then don't use gpl licenced code
>>54942107
or maybe he said that notch is a troll not because he's bashing on the gpl but because he also purposely engages in shit shows with SJWs on twitter and is a mod of /r/drama on reddit?
tripfags ladies and gentlement, 4 posts and not a single post that a child couldn't make
>>54942572
open source and the fsf/gpl licence (referred to as gnu in OP) aren't the same thing, see: >>54942059
Wanting others to not take without giving is cult mentality in this guys eyes.
I think he's finally realized that he lost an opportunity to make one of the most played games Free Software, and is regretting it.
>>54942815
GPL minecraft would have been amazing
>>54942857
And it's not like it would make a difference. Minecraft is already pirated a lot multiplayer is verified server side.
>>54942807
>open source and the fsf/gpl licence (referred to as gnu in OP) aren't the same thing,
Yeah, no shit. I'm aware. I wasn't talking about FOSS. I was saying that Minecraft is not open-source (let alone FOSS) so Notch obviously doesn't think proprietary software is evil.
It's like you GNU faggots have some sort of Tourette's where you just blurt out the shit from the gnu.org/philosophy page regardless of whether it's relevant or not. It's one of the reasons nobody takes you seriously.
GNU is true freedom. BSD is giving fat talentless fucks a license to make money directly from your hard work and give nothing back to you.
>>54942930
I don't give a fuck. Copyright shouldn't exist, so I don't burden my work with it. The GPL is fundamentally reliant upon copyright to exist, so I don't use it.
GPL should be fucking purged. Your shit 50 line library does not need that additional fucking cancer attached to it.
The only time I see GPL as acceptable is when the licensed "package" is a complete system in itself i.e. releasing something like Sublime Text under the GPL.
>>54938075
>Free software != communism idiot
It's the same kind of childishness
>>54938159
>Notch opposes free software
getaloadofthisguy.jpg
>>54936899
Anything with a GNU (read: non-free) license
>>54936903
>hates SJWs in order to get points on a SJW website
what
>>54940675
>a little text file that tells what you can or CAN'T do with it.
This is why the MIT license is the best license.
The license only says that you can't blame the creator for any malfunctions, and that no particular purpose or functionality is guaranteed.
>>54942028
GPL is anti-freedom.
>>54942986
Whenever I see this, I simply copy/paste their code and re-write it as my own.
Fuck the GPL.
>>54936941
>He can't even initiate a new game because all his money has made him complacent as fuck.
Pic related
He could be making it up, but it's his word vs anon's anus
>>54942906
do you always move the goalposts when you get called out for making a post not relevant to anything?
>I was saying that Minecraft is not open-source (let alone FOSS) so Notch obviously doesn't think proprietary software is evil.
which is why I referred you to a post (>>54942059) that demonstrated notch showed a sentiment to releasing minecraft to the public domain which obviously has a *lot* of relevance to the stance notch has(/had) towards proprietary software and negates the point you make about minecraft not being open source, so whatever opinion notch has(/had) on proprietary software is clearly *not* obvious
here, you can confirm it for yourself: https://web.archive.org/web/20100301103851/http://www.minecraft.net/about.jsp
>It's like you GNU faggots have [bla bla bla]
and it's like you fucking mongoloids that think they're fighting communism reincarnate have a moral duty to take any mention of the fsf out of context just for an opportunity to spout off your anti-stallman propaganda
seriously, what gave you the impression I'm a freetard? here, I even advocated *AGAINST* using the GPL in the post you quoted:
>you said it yourself, the gpl isn't a good fit for some projects
but herp derp I mentioned the fsf and know a little about open source licenses, I must be a GNU/Faggot!
>It's one of the reasons nobody takes you seriously.
oh boo hoo I couldn't care less what some faggot with an agenda has to think about me
>>54943219
I'm not the anon you're arguing with, but you're pretty bad at reading.
The other anon simply said that Minecraft was never open-source, and you went off about FSF/GPL.
He's got a point; you responded with irrelevant information to a post that mentioned nothing about the differences between terminology.
tl;dr: ur a faget
>>54942986
>GPL should be fucking purged. Your shit 50 line library does not need that additional fucking cancer attached to it.
and how much of an incompetent lazy fuckstick are you that you can't write or reimplement a 50 line library?
let me guess, you were late on a deadline for your frontend webdev work because you were too busy shitposting on 4chan that you grabbed the nearest ruby/javascript/nodejs whatever plugin or library you found off of github and used it in your project, only to be called out weeks or months later when your company is getting into legal trouble because you couldn't do your job
hurr guys glibc shouldn't be gpl because it's not a complete ill-defined term :^)
>>54936774
STOP GIVING ATTENTION TO ATTENTION WHORES
NOBODY SHOULD CARE WHAT THIS FATFUCK HAS TO SAY
>inb4 salty
i don't give two shits
>>54942890
You're not very familiar with free software are you?
There would be many more and much larger mods, university projects would work with Minecraft, there would be good ports for every platform, custom clients, connections with other free software.
>>54943367
I meant it in a positive way, it wouldn't affect it negatively, only positively.
He has nothing to do so he just trolls twitter out of boredom.
But Java uses GNU General Public License.
>>54942815
>Wanting others to not take without giving is cult mentality in this guys eyes
EVERY SINGLE USER WHO DOESN'T MODIFY YOUR CODE DOESN'T GIVE A THING BACK. THEY'VE STILL TAKEN FROM YOU. FOR FUCKS SAKE.
AND THE GUY WHO MODIFIES YOUR CODE DOESN'T PERSONALLY GIVE YOU ANYTHING BACK EXCEPT THE BENEFIT OF BEING VAGUELY ASSOCIATED WITH FEATURES OF THE NEWER PRODUCT BECAUSE USERS DON'T KNOW WHO DID WHAT. ANY LICENSE ALREADY DOES THAT.
>>54943270
>The other anon simply said that Minecraft was never open-source, and you went off about FSF/GPL.
>He's got a point; you responded with irrelevant information
I mentioned that open source isn't the same as the GPL because the implication that notch discussing his hatred of GNU (I'm sure he means either the FSF or the GPL) in the OP post and because >>54942572 is essentially "not open source, ergo the answer is obvious" that >>54942572 is mistaken and conflating the two or that >>54942572 is being purposely deceitful to mislead people reading his post
so I went with ignorance over malice and mentioned that open source isn't the same as X software licence and linked to a post earlier in the thread (>>54942059) that mentions notches previous views (circa 2010~, maybe later) regarding open sourcing minecraft in that notch said he would release it under public domain (as opposed to (L)GPL)
so where exactly am I responding with irrelevant information? I mentioned "fsf/gpl" specifically because in OP's post notch is going off on a tangent about the GNU but I'm 100% sure it's more in line with the GPL/FSF
>to a post that mentioned nothing about the differences between terminology.
right, but once again the implication is that because minecraft isn't open source that notch is "obviously" pro-proprietary software, and again despite notches stance, at one point, being that he may have intended to release it as public domain -- decidedly not proprietary software, and this isn't even going into the nuance that open source software can still be proprietary software
but I'll gladly accept that I went on an assumption and replied to a post that may mislead people because of heavily nuanced language involved
but you know what his butthurt reply (>>5494290) told me? that he isn't ignorant on the differences, but that he's maliciously trying to mislead people because he has an agenda
tl;dr: ur a faget :^)
>>54936774
>>54943721
>EVERY SINGLE USER WHO DOESN'T MODIFY YOUR CODE DOESN'T GIVE A THING BACK. THEY'VE STILL TAKEN FROM YOU. FOR FUCKS SAKE.
the giving back part is the stipulations in the licence that any project using GPL code must provide the source upon request, legally re-distributable and modifiable by anybody who obtains or purchases a legal copy from you, so long as the terms of the licence are upheld
the only instance where this isn't true is where someone illegally breaks the terms of the software licence and takes GPL code and uses it in a proprietary project, but that's not something a software licence is going to protect from beyond giving you something to use in an expensive patent/copyright case (assuming you can even prove they're using your code) -- but this is something no source code licence can protect from
>>54943442
Oh right, fair enough
>>54937193
and how would that be a bad thing?
>>54936810
>He was doing so well against the SJWs
He still is against them, that's why he hates GNU because it, too, like "SJW" is a cult of violent people seeking justice only under their rules and terms.
That's why Linux users and "Free Software" advocates are so annoying and compared to feminists, vegans, Jehovah Witnesses, etc.
>>54944422
Violent...?
>>54944467
Verbally violent and abusive.
>>54944483
Where are you seeing GNU people physically harming or threatening to physically harm others based on their choice of software license?
>>54938178
>MS buys Minecraft
>everyone stops playing it because botnet meme
>Notch buys it back for 10 million
>everyone starts playing it again because "I'll make it open source when I get enough money"
>Microsoft buys it for 3 billion again
>>54943175
>you're rich, why aren't you paying my bills
What a fucking faggot
>>54943175
Yeah that's bullshit. He isn't going to make anything.
>>54942815
What a fucking joke of a post. Yeah im sure hes regretting it deeply, good thing he can wipe away his tears with $10,000 bank notes and go fuck $50,000 escorts to help ease his suffering
