This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
http://youtu.be/508-rmdY4jQ
Strap guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
Previous thread: >>54902166
WHY DO MECHANICAL FAGGOTS LIE SO MUCH ON THE INTERNET???
THEY KEEP REPEATING THE LIE THAT A MECHANICAL WILL LAST LONGER THAN A QUARTZ WHEN IT'S NOT TRUE AT ALL!!!!!!
THEY KEEP REPEATING THE LIE THAT QUARTZ WATCHES CAN'T BE REPAIRED WHICH IS THE BIGGEST LIE IN THE HISTORY OF WATCH MAKING
STILL YOU FAGGOTS KEEP SUPPORTING THIS LYING FAGGOT INDUSTRY!!!!!
YOU'RE ALL BEING TAKEN FOR A FUCKING RIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOUTUBE IS FULL OF PEOPLE REPAIRING QUARTZ WATCHES FROM COMPONENT LEVEL JUST LIKE MECHANICALS!!!!!
https://youtu.be/YxcYgQejqnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hngZxIrPVko
first for meme shock arrived yesterday
Second for Suwa Hi-Beat
>>54927905
Third for Daini Seikosha.
>yfw a 20 grand Patek doesn't have hacking seconds
>a $350 Seiko SARB033 has hacking seconds
I ordered something
I has watch
INB4 countless Seiko reposts. These threads are garbage.
>>54927995
there is a certain irony that the more someone spends on a watch, the less they probably care about the time
>>54927995
I don't understand why all mechanicals don't have a hacking lever. Though if the escapement is shit, dirty or out of beat it may just not start up again.
>>54928041
Post watch
Any reason why my skx loses so much time?
>>54928207
Because you're a faggot.
>>54927726
>Happy birthday son
>Thanks dad!
>>54928284
Model?
>>54928268
Gee so helpful. 10/10
>>54928103
It basically adds cost and complexity. You need additional components and machine/labour time to add such a feature. If you're trying to make an automatic movement as cheap as possible, the hacking lever is usually the first thing to go, along with the hand-winding. Seiko's 4R15 is basically a 6R15 with those features removed, just because it cuts cost (and gives them a way to differentiate the 6R15 and keep us from asking for something more like a 6R20). Some cheap automatics remove one or the other, though; the Seiko 6106 has a hacking lever but no hand-winding, and the Miyota 8200 has hand-winding but no hacking lever. And some expensive automatics have no hacking lever because it's completely pointless; the Seiko 7018 comes to mind (why the fuck would you want to hack a chronograph with no running seconds sub-dial). But why Patek can't put a tiny little one in a Calatrava? I don't know. Maybe it's their way of reminding you that you really are on the bottom-feeder end of their customer base, and to them you're no better than some pleb with a Seiko 5.
Me, personally, I think hacking levers are pretty much mandatory on standard 3-hand designs.
>>54928443
>But why Patek can't put a tiny little one in a Calatrava? I don't know. Maybe it's their way of reminding you that you really are on the bottom-feeder end of their customer base,
The vast majority of their watches don't hack, even the ultra high end grand complications shit
>>54928357
How old are you?
What should I use to remove scratches from a vintage watch's acrylic crystal?
I already have a dremel
>>54928050
You got some watches to post or are you just going to bitch?
>>54927726
GET THE FUCK OFF TO >>>/fa/
FAGGOTS
>>54928421
It is a railroad approved accutron with a 218 movement made in 1972.
>>54928501
Look at the top of the page. Does it say "/g/ - Computers" or "/g/ - Technology"?
>>54928488
I turned 25 last week, why?
>>54928556
And yet you still celebrating your birthday with your parents....
>>54928357
thats a nice watch, hug your parents for loving you so much
>>54928467
Wait, are you fucking serious?
I know the Regulateur Annual Calendar hacks, I just sort of assumed the rest of them did as well. It's such an elementary feature. I'm sure they have some sort of rationale but that makes no sense to me.
>>54928443
>It basically adds cost and complexity.
It's basically a simple stamped part on a pivot machined out of the mainplate. I don't see why it's so complex. I still say the main reason it's not used more is cheapshit escapements not restarting.
>>54928538
faggot
this thread belongs to >>>/fa/ as ptg belongs to >>>/t/
FUCK OFF
>>54928501
>>>>/fa/
they don't know how to fix watches
>>54928650
Nope, Pateks that have hacking are the exception.
"To my knowledge just 3 pateks have hacking seconds: 5959, 5170 and the new Regulator 5235g"
>>54928600
Hey, when did I say I ONLY celebrating my birthday with my parents? I only said that just a fucking present from my dad. Calm the fuck down
>>54928645
I actually did that, thank you
rate?, Also have a 5513 mk4!
>>54928357
>Cheap, bulky quartz chrono
Looks like a gross lump of metal.
>>54928763
>posting the dog shit sub
>>54928824
whats wrong it mr.fancypants!?
>>54928837
compared to the 5513 it's just awful and betrays the tool watch heritage
>fat oversized lugs and markers
>shiny ceramic bezel shatters if stopped (= expensive af to replace)
>>54928556
>over 18
>still in contact with parents
die in a chemical fire you leeching piece of worthless hit
>>54928878
not that guy, but you jelly cuz you dont have good contact with yours!? faggot
>>54928501
Watch threads:
>Highly technical debates over the merits of numerous Seiko and Swiss calibers, and analysis as to why the design of any given one is better than the other
>People trying to time their 7S26 to fall within COSC specifications using cobbled together home-based equipment, god bless 'em
>A guy who made his own ETA 6497 on a fucking lathe, assembled dozens of moving parts on it himself, and timed his mechanical concoction to be accurate within 12 seconds per day
>Overall people who love this hobby and give each other great info, with the occasional meme watch being born
versus
>1/10 no custom icon set
>3/10 shit battlestashun kill urself XD
>OMG /g/ THE ILLUMINATI AND THE NSA IS GOING TO SPY ON MY OPPAI LOLI COLLECTION
>Check out this chink shit we're buying for the sake of buying shit, I swear it will not fall apart in a month
>Windows is dum
>Homescreen thread!
>The SSD meme is real guiz
>How much RAM do you have and why is it less than 16 gigabytes
>AMD has no drivers lol
Yup that's us, the watch faggots
>>54928763
RWI/10
Anyone have any good tips on how to buy a vintage omega off of ebay? I don't want to waste money on ones with a refurbished dial or shit like that.
>>54928653
Your escapement would have to be pure fucking garbage not to restart. Then again my Vostok 2414 has to be shaken sometimes even when fully wound. As for the costs, the mainplate machining and the stamping of the pivot are still extra processes. Removing them saves less than $1 per movement, but it is still money saved, and more importantly it gives you a reason to pay more for something with hacking.
>>54928709
That is completely ridiculous. I never really looked into Patek calibers, but given that literally everyone else has hacking starting from the mid range, I figured they would too. What's the point of "muh accuracy" if you can't even hack the movement?
>>54928987
RWI?
What defines a "good" watch? Is it the brand? The material?
>>54928878
Why not? I still making money on my own and yet still living with my parents and having good times with them. I think I should totally kill myself for doing that.
I'm they guy that asked about EB 8021-68 in the last thread. The seller sent me some pics of the movement - this one looks like it doesn't have shock protection, or am I wrong?
>>54929086
If it says "SEIKO" on it then it's automatically good.
There are many factors for determining the quality of a watch that says anything else.
>>54929086
Well for example an Amphibia is an insanely good diver at Amphibia prices, but it would be pretty shit for the price of a Marinemaster. On the other hand a TAG-Huehue would be acceptable at Tissot or SARB price, but total scam dogshit for the shekels TAG asks for them.
Should I spend all of my year's savings on a 14060 or buy a mkii speedy and save the rest?
>>54929318
Why did you censor your arm? Are you black or something?
>>54929165
>>54929209
This sounds too complicated. I have to look at the quality of everything about the watch as well as the price? If that's the case, then where do I begin?
>>54929426
ah you're one of those
yeah, just buy the most expensive
>>54929423
>>54929474
>>54929423
>>54929318
+ I might be black just might and you guys dont like blacks!
>>54929465
>one of those
What's that supposed to mean? I'm just kind of interested in this because the only watches I've ever had came from walmart for $15.
>>54929474
>censoring the picture of a wrist like that is totally normal
>>54924797
The 52xx quick-set may break as a result of wear or misuse, but it won't just unexpectedly and inevitably fail by itself as the 56xx quick-set will due to it resulting purely from aging of the plastic gear in the quick-set mechanism.
Ergo, a serviced 52xx will not have the quick-set fail as long as you don't set it between 9pm and 3am, whereas a 56xx quick-set will eventually fail in 100% of 56xx watches.
The difference between these two things should be self-evident.
Whats so bad about TAG Heuer?
I don't know anything about the company or their watches
>>54929566
THANKS!
this looks pretty fucking smart
>>54929672
>as long as you don't set it between 9pm and 3am
Generally speaking is it safe to change the time while the day is changing?
>>54927171
Only the older models, the newer cases are composite.
>>54929777
Someone link this guy the video of the TAG with fake screws falling off the dial
>>54929833
I am genuinely surprised that there is overlap between people who like Sinn and people who think bracelets look good.
>>54929959
I'm not.
>>54929833
Link to bracelet?
Looks like it would fit fat springbars
>>54929672
>Ergo, a serviced 52xx will not have the quick-set fail as long as you don't set it between 9pm and 3am
>don't set it between 9pm and 3am
Unless you're part of the 5216/5256 master race
>>54929984
can't help sorry, wasn't my pic
>>54929959
i am not a big fan either generally but that combo looks cool
black 556i is still bae though
>>54929151
indeed it doesnt
>>54929983
>>54930097
Uh, it was this kind of bracelet I meant.
>>54929956
>>54929777
This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pOtkAa1iqQ
>>54930205
Yeah. That's the one.
>>54930176
Fuck, I really liked the watch too. Well, at least I dodged the bullet.
>yfw Tissot will never make pieces like this again
>yfw they are artificially slotted in to Swatch's "you buy this but you really want a Longines as soon as you can afford it" category
>yfw the history and heritage of the brand has been completely wasted
Feels bad, man
>>54930188
/fa/ ->
>>54930529
Did you flunk middle school reading comprehension?
>>54930563
You could have stopped at Middle School and still been right.
>>54930512
Beginner watchmaker/battery monkey anon here, 90% of Swatch Group watches that come in for a battery change are Tissot, and about 70%-80% of all lower-midrange watches. Tissot is a commoner brand now, that is considered "affordable luxury" by the ignorant masses.
Interestingly I see a lot of Citizen (a lot of it women's titanium). The only Seikos are 80's-90's analog quartz, and the odd Seiko 5 that was never serviced/got busted up.
>>54930010
To be honest, I would NEVER use the quick-set on a vintage watch between 9pm and 3am.
It just isn't worth the risk of a mishap.
>>54928357
>>54928722
Heh, my dad actually had the same one,but he broke the shit out of it, hands fell off, pushers were busted and the strap was rusted.
He was about to throw it away but I took it and fixed it for a few shekels.
A nice daily quartz watch.
I refuse to wear a watch that doesn't have a digital display
fight me
>>54930843
>2448x3264
>>54930874
Would you wear this,?
>>54930874
Worthless, someone clearly already beat you on the head very hard.
>>54930926
I would
Really wish Casio would bring back some of their older watches
>>54930278
Is it just poor quality control or what ?
>>54930969
Their, particularly low end watches, are simply an attempt to look like they are worth the money. It's trying to play the part of a quality, expensive watch without putting anything meaningful into it. Unique materials, movement or complications? No, just trying to appear like it has those things and spending a lot marketing to yuppies who just don't feel comfortable springing for a Rolex. Then they can walk around feeling good about spending 1/2 as much as a Rolex but it being 'nearly as good!' when in fact they spent pre-owned Rolex money on what might as well be some 500 dollar Tissot.
>>54930926
Definitely. Looks sweet.
>>54929912
You had me cancel my order. Ordered one monday because I read about that and wanted a sweet steel Casio, not so sure now.
Does anyone even know how you could identify a proper model with a steel case with the serial number or something? Can it be seen from underneath without opening it perhaps?
Probably the only non-shitty looking Tag Heuer.
I like how it doesn't even say Tag anywhere.
Hey /g/, I'm getting kind of sick of WildSpectra and the various other Android band-aid timegraphing programs, so I'm thinking of buying a dedicated timegrapher. These seem to be popular with various autistic watchmakers on Youtube and can be had for around $140 freedombux. Is there another option /wt/ approves of?
Also thinking of getting a degausser.
>>54929912
Goddamn it Casio.
>>54931384
You'd have to look for a DW-5600C, not the common $40 DW-5600E
http://www.g-shock-mens-watches.com/casio-g-shock-dw-5600e/
>One of the major differences between this model and the original G-Shock DW-5600C is the use of a polymer case material with a stainless steel case back secured with four screws. The original design featured a stainless steel case and screw-down case back and is highly sought after by collectors.
>>54931409
It's non-shitty because they had to reach back into their past before TAG got a hold of them in order to produce something decent. Although I still wonder about their quality control.
Fuck, I wish everything had gone according to Keikaku for Seiko after the Quartz Crisis. Then at least some of these companies would be in their hands and we'd still have consistent QC and tasteful designs.
>>54931505
>is highly sought after by collectors.
Well then I'll go for a "E" then.
>>54931409
That's because it's a remake of the old Heuer Carreras.
>>54929517
don't listen to too many people on 4chan. it's just something you can pick up by lurking/looking around
Seiko gets shit because it's common as all fuck on forums and shit, but they are common for a reason and you don't see them out and about as often.
it's a good brand to start with because they have good pieces at price points from 50 to 1000 use
swiss pieces you are paying extra always, and they are probonly not made entirely in Switzerland unless it's a rolex, JLC, or a real high end brand.
it's not always obvious what is "objectively good" if there is such a thing, but a good indicator is second hand value.
a Rolex in mint condition will pull probably 80% or more of its retail unless it's old or has some extra collectors value.
a tag Heuer or Tissot might dip as low as 60% of its value even in great condition.
remember above all else that it is SUBJECTIVE what you like. Especially on pieces that you intend to keep forever, it doesn't really matter if you overpay a little bit or people don't think it's a "good" watch
Reposting my project watch because fuck it, I'm proud and want to attention-whore for just a little bit.
>>54929959
oyster bracelets look good. as a matter of fact, most bracelets look alright as long as they aren't super polished.
I dislike mesh generally but eh it could be good for task.
>>54931515
Might as well go for the G-5000 if you want the screwback case.
>>54931766
Watchmakeranon, question.
Did they teach you over there about the making of hairsprings, and or how to make them as well?
>>54930188
oh, disregard >54931786
>>54931766
It's good. I'm sure anyone who's seen it enjoys seeing it again
>>54931766
Watchmakeranon, if we paid you, would you be able to copy any movement and the components that go into it?
I'm wondering if you could supplement your income by manufacturing all the various parts that Seiko has chosen to discontinue over the years, and then sell them to watch autists like us.
Why do people hate on the SubC? Can anyone say anything other than "fat lugs" or "easy to shatter bezel" which are design elements implemented by the company who make them? These watches are not tool watches anymore, and that's fine, if you want a tool watch there are many alternatives that will go deeper and take more of a beating at a fraction of the cost, why would you want to use a $7000 watch for that? Remember the old bezel was very easy to scratch and would often have to be replaced, at a cost, any subjective argument against it is simply a matter of personal taste until someone can explain otherwise. "but muh heritage!1" Guess what? times change, and this is how the submariner looks now. I just don't understand the hate.
>>54931805
Apparently we're going to be learning about it this last quarter, but I'm not really sure how deep we get. I believe we'll be forming over-coils though.
>>54931808
I appreciate it.
>>54931979
Theoretically, yes. That's certainly an interesting idea, but I don't think it'd be practical. For the price that I would have to charge, making all of these pieces by hand, I'm sure you could get a batch done in China for cheaper.
>>54932131
Spite, mostly.
As you said yourself, the Submariner used to be a tool watch, something you could batter and beat, and it will hold it's form. Then Rolex just sort of stopped putting the effort in.
It is still a very nice looking watch, and one of the only good looking watches Rolex make, so it has that going for it. It's just Rolex wanted to maximise their profit margins, so they cheap out on things that would otherwise be easily damaged or often replaced.
Blame capitalism if anything.
I'll ask this again
Can a watch fill the void? If not, can a collection of watches fill the void?
>>54932705
Effect of watches on people who are:
>Sad
Sad --> Sad with watches
>Happy
Happy --> Happy with watches
SGW-100-2b anon, if you're lurking. Are the colors of the watch as bright as the appear in most Casio display photos? I assume no but I'd like for you to confirm.
>>54905311
Both
>>54932186
>>54930675
I am pretty sure the dumb Jap who owned my 7018 before me did just that. Thankfully the quickset still works, just need to realign the day wheel.
>>54931766
Where can i go to learn watchmaking?
>>54933736
Lititz, PA Seattle, WA or Stillwater, OK. Outside of the US, I have no clue.
>>54932726
So watches can't make you happy?
Why bother then?
>>54934340
Because no particular material thing is going to make a sad person happy in any lasting, meaningful way.
But being happy with watches is strictly better than being happy without watches.
>>54934371
>But being happy with watches is strictly better than being happy without watches.
I disagree.
People buy things because they have a need for them, either emotionally for physically.
Therefore people do buy watches to make themselves or other people happy.
My question is: Does it actually work?
>>54934431
>People buy things because they have a need for them, either emotionally for physically.
>Therefore people do buy watches to make themselves or other people happy.
'People buy watches to make themselves happy' does not logically follow from people buy something because they have a need from it, you blockhead.
>>54931414
I'm planning on getting this model as well, anon
>>54934496
They have a precieved need for the watch because of marketing
Anyone have any luck getting brands to send them catalogs?
I'd love to get a Seiko catalog every few months
>>54934636
I've gotten mailed catalogs from A Lange and Glashutte Original; nothing from Breguet, Seiko, or Arnold & Son
>>54934654
How'd you manage that?
>>54934679
Filled out a form on their website
>>54934609
Even if that were always the case, which it isn't, that does not reinforce your dumb non sequitur.
>>54934684
Nice.
I'll get on that then. I wonder if I can email Seiko and ask them for one.
>>54934636
I've never tried going through websites but I've gotten a handful when I've gone into watch/jewelry stores.
>buy 1970's quartz watch from thrift store for $20
>put battery in and it doesn't work
>take it to watch repair guy
>repair will cost $100
>unable to find the model on ebay to compare prices
RARE AS FUCK
>>54934636
I've just shown up to boutiques and gotten them. Gotten large books from JLC, IWC, Blancpain and maybe one or two others. In my experience once they know you know about watches, they're excited to give you one.
>>54934759
Did you check sold listings, as well as watchuseek and chrono24?
>>54934767
>Did you check sold listings, as well as watchuseek and chrono24?
Yes. The closest I found was a date version but mine has no date.
>>54934767
some boutiques/stores also have magazines that the brand publishes you can ask for
>>54931744
>you dont see seiko out and about
this is true because most watches you see are gaudy macy's fuck huge over priced shit and or massive meme shocks (dont get me wrong the 5600 is a classic)
if you are looking to get a simple automatic and start appreciating watches you can't go wrong with a seiko 5 that fits your tastes, lots of bands and customization
Gentlemen, I have a god damn speedmaster set to be delivered tomorrow.
Purchased online from the Bernard Watch Company. They supposedly have a good reputation, but this is my first time dropping this kind of money on a watch.
Anything I should immediately look out for or do once I receive it?
They have a three day return policy where I can simply send it back with no fees.
>>54928357
Happy birthday desu wa
>>54935705
Do not take any tags/stickers/etc off the watch or wear it yet. I didn't really look through their site but some grey market dealers are really anal about their return policy and if you do that stuff it's voided. Use first two days to test and inspect it thoroughly. Wind it up all the way and let it run to test the power reserve, check the accuracy over those two day, make sure the chronograph functions are working properly. After those 48 hours if everything seems to be good then wear and enjoy your new watch.
>>54934496
I have a normally depressive personality, but watches make me happy. I like the idea of having little machines that depend on me to run. If I live, so do they. They need me. And I need them.
>>54934636
The best Seiko catalogues were from the 1970s. Not really much point getting anything after that.
>>54935705
Take it to an Omega AD and have them authenticate it?
Otherwise just throw the thing on a Timegrapher. Make sure amplitude, beat error etc are within spec for the movement. How old is it?
Anyone here own any chink automatics? Most I'm looking to spend is $100 for a nice automatic watch.
>>54935863
Alright, will do.
In terms of authenticity, any additional steps I should take to confirm it?
I've already asked for and checked for the serial number. Seemed legit.
>>54935900
>I have a normally depressive personality, but watches make me happy. I like the idea of having little machines that depend on me to run. If I live, so do they. They need me. And I need them.
What you need is help.
>>54932186
If I wanted cute Asian slave girls making Seiko parts, I'd just go direct to Seiko and order a whole batch of 7S26 movements.
Besides, I trust your hands more than those of a malnourished gook.
>>54935953
Look who's talking.
>>54935900
The only authorized omega dealers in my area require an appointment and it may take more than three days to see them.
But I do plan on having them check it out soon after I get it
>>54926221
I think that was the least dumb thing said by him too. Laughs had by all.
I bet most of us here own a Casio so it was face palms all around
>>54929517
Pic for you anon
>>54935930
Nice
$100
One of these two needs to be changed.
Look at orient watches for nice, whilst been inexpensive they are around $100, a bit over unless you find one on sale
>>54936510
Orient is a Japanese company.
>>54936573
Oh he wanted a Chinese one.
First part of the comment still stands though.
>>54935930
Perpetual Watch has some watches that come close to $100 and are chinese. I've not got one personally but reviews of the site are quite good. Long, long wait times.
>>54932734
Its really not that bright. You have the dark blue body, three out of four gray and one orange button, and a bit of orange colouring on the bezel. IMO the standard sgw -100 is a lot more brighter, because its metallic gray and has a normal screen, which gives off a lot more brightness.
>>54936346
Yeah, poor soul. I wondere where he could be working, given that he cant do simple math like '125% of x= y'
>>54931766
Its cool anon, its cool
who else thinks Archie will be reviewing an Invicta or a Fossil next?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFXrMpjIPG8
>>54938268
Never watched any of his videos (pun not intended)
And I don't plan on starting to.
>>54938346
You should start
He is a comical genius
>>54938346
To some degree you shouldn't, since his shilling antennas seems to have turned off and his insanity kicked in real hard. (Not like it wasn't there in the first place)
Though yeah, if you ignore all the insane and inane shit he can be funny.
>>54938268
Pour Arch, he'll review any dogshit watch just to get more views now. He's still funny to watch though.
I'm just going to post my newest, basic-ass Citizen solely because I love it.
>daily reminder
>>54939402
>daily reminder that not all watches are the same size
>daily reminder that not all straps are made from the exact same material
>daily reminder that not all people wear their watches (that are of different size and with different material straps) in the exact same position while working, sitting down, jogging, driving, diving
>daily reminder that watchfags posting shitty photo instructionals almost always end up being asshole losers
Whew, glad we got all those daily reminders out of the way.
>>54938627
2big4u
>>54939402
Nani?!
>>54937906
Thanks.
It looks much better on nato
I wonder what is the cheapest mechanical chronometer you can get new or vintage, that's still an actual chronometer in terms of accuracy.
>>54939722
Try Speidel for looks.
>>54939794
Chronometer certified? Or just meeting the specifications?
The movement in these meme seikos would be close, they cost like $100
>>54939722
it still looks like complete dogshit
>>54939794
Vostok 2809A
Yes, that's the cheapest you can get.
>>54939847
Fugg u :D i like it
>>54939879
Those commies couldn't run an economy and their watches can't run on time
Seriously though, how well have they held up over the years?
>>54939913
For as far as i know its the best russian movement made. Based on sone zenith movement i think. Looks p cool but
>all those gold/chrome plated cases
>>54929086
movement and accuracy
hand crafted ones are better as well
This one's old
>>54940162
DIE IN A FIRE LEFTY FUCKTARD
>>54927148
>>54927148
what makes that a metal gear gshock
>>54939990
Looks pretty good for a Slav movement
>>54939993
Is that a fake denzel blank?
>>54940226
nope unbranded daniel wellington from aliexpress
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Sweden-armbandsur-Design-Nylon-Watchband-Casual-Watch-Thin-Case-Quartz-Japan-Movement-Free-Shipping/1996167798.html
>>54940235
Yeah, I asked if it was bruh
But anyway what is it like? Have you handled one a real one
>>54939829
Yes but the chronometer version of the 52 caliber meme costs, at the very least, double or triple what a normal 52xx costs. Still cheap in the grand scheme of things but probably more than a Citizen chrono master.
>>54940293
Wasn't sure wether he was getting at chronometer certified or just meeting the specs
What are the real life figures for both of them?
>>54932734
hey i have the same one kek
>>54938627
You must have super skelly wrists or the perspective is really fucked up. That watch is only about 36mm.
I also recommend putting it on a nato strap as it's far comfier.
>>54939722
>Glorious Soviet watch
>pig dog NATO strap
>>54932734
The best negative display Casio makes is picrelated, yellow on black.
Negative displays are VERY visible whn light reflects directly into them, but when light reflects sideways on the glass or when there's not a lot of light it's not as visible as a positive display.
>>54936346
I would seriously consider putting one or two g-shocks on that list.
Like the 5610 or 8900
>>54940532
This watch makes me think of Full Metal Panic for some reason.
>>54929094
Är det du Dino?
>>54940559
It makes me think of Metal Gear 2 .
The gray one could have been Solid Snake's watch, or Raiden's.
The negative display one could have been worn by the russian soldiers
>>54940549
>>54940552
>Implying a good third of that list doesn't need some tidying up
Look at the date it was last edited. Not a lot has changed on the lower side but the upper side needs some touching up.
>>54940293
>chronometer version of the 52 caliber
Are there any differences other than non-chronometer 52 cal. movements just not passing the tests?
Can anyone tell me what kind of movements do these higher-tier reps have? It's an ETA 2824-2 clone right?
>>54940613
At the time they were made, the chronometer and King Seiko special versions of the movement were much more finely factory adjusted than the versions used in the LM Special series.
However, at 40+ years remove, factory adjustment no longer matters and it is condition and servicing that matter.
So far, from what I've seen, any good condition 52xx in regularly serviced condition should be able to get to under +/- 2s/d
>>54940804
Or you know, like my somewhat self repairing 5206.
Got it, the day wouldn't switch at all and it would gain 5 minutes per day. Let it running for a couple of days and it stabilized to +2 sec per day. Tingled with the day date and it started working but slowly from 12AM to 4AM.
Now after a bit fucking around with it, 5 days a week it instantly jumps to the next day at 12AM.
Luckily i scored a parts movement to scavenge the calendar mechanism and keep for parts for any further 52XX's i'm going to get. It should actually have a really good looking green dial.
>Islamic prayer compass
Cant make this shit up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jREpqcoYkXM
what's a good first watch for a 19 year old anon? minimal, analogue or digital, i don't mind and water proof is not necessary but a really nice add-on, also under 50E.
>>54941485
hublot big bang
>>54941315
I-i posted this f-first!
>>54941485
Komandirskie, Amphibia or a Seiko 5.
>>54941485
G-shock 5600
>>54941485
Ill let you know when i get my mvmt
At the moment look at the value of the movement. Don't buy a $500 watch with a $10 movement.
For the $50 budget get a used seiko 5 or a timex .
Our pick something you like, it's $50. You are scraping the bottom of ok quality
>>54941508
>>54941532
>>54941536
>>54941540
out of all these recommendations, I like the mvmt the best due to its minimalistic design, ordering one tonight, will report when it arrives here, (eurofag)
>>54941596
fucking bastard hublot big bang was superior choice
>>54941602
G-shock was the superior choice for a 19 year old
>>54941620
fucking bastard hublot big bang was superior choice
>>54940964
>The self-repairing movement
Truly God's caliber, blessed be the Yamato Race
That aside, my Jewish friend, where did you score the donor movement and for how much? I kind of wanted a green dial, so I must say I'm a little jelly.
>>54941315
I actually bought one of these for a Muslim coworker as a joke, but she ended up really liking it. She carries it around in her purse and uses it at least twice a day.
>>54941602
>>54941620
>>54941643
they are a bit too big for my liking desu , plus the mvmt looks minimalistic which is really nice and hard to find it watches, but the price matches (100$ on amazon)
>>54941768
fucking bastard hublot big bang was superior choice
>>54941753
Jewbay for 60$, seller sent me a video of the calendar working properly so i went for it. Shame it's a non-runner though.
The hands don't seem to have a lot of oxidation on them, but it doesn't look to bad and may be salvageable. Case is in decent shape.
>>54941768
>MVMT
>100$
pic related.
>>54941768
Yeah i was talking about the $40 mvmt from the factory.
But hey if you like the look of it and $100 seems fair then cool
>>54941768
The 5600 is not big you sperg.
It was literally the PERFECT choice for a 19 year old and YOU BLEW IT
>>54941846
Pics?
You could probably get it running if you wanted, but the cost of overhaul would outweigh the value of the watch.
>>54942398
There we go famalam.
I'd rather score another working one for 100$~
>this
>>54941768
>mvmt looks minimalistic which is really nice and hard to find it watches
How would you know what is hard to find when you don't know anything about watches?
Funny to see how a company that spends 95% of its effort of manufacturing marketing gets people to buy into it.
>>54942661
I can tell from this one picture alone that it's fucking garbage without knowing anything about the brand. If you yourself can't then you have much to learn.
>>54942481
This looks like it may have been very nice when new and a little less beaten up. Good donor movement at least.
>mfw there are currently at least 3 NOS LM Specials listed on Y!ellow Jew auctions
>mfw all are around $500
>used ones average $60
Could a Damasko ever pass off as anything other than a tool watch?
>>54928856
> "i browse watch forums and now im an expert" opinion starter pack
>>54928763
Very nice, are you putting a rubberB or isofrane on it?
>>54942946
>Y!ellow Jew auctions
Either way, it will be a while till i get it properly done. Though i'm still not sure on which JDM to get next likely either another 52XX cal or a 5740. Still i got a month (starting tomorrow) to ponder at it in bootcamp.
Also, a 78XX series Cosmotron could be nice if one appears in good shape.
so is VAPAUS going to be the new kickstarter success story or what
hand-wound sellita SW215-1 and 38mm diameter for 700€
they have these weird media blackouts for multiple weeks though
>>54943069
>>54939533
Butthurt, sissywrists?
>>54928809
>Describes watch aesthetics as being"gross"
Are you a chick?
>>54943069
>>54943083
The dials and hands look absolutely dogshit. I can't overlook it and i have a fetish for domed glass.
>>54943069
>>54943083
Looks like a million other watches from the past 80 years.
>>54943069
The watches look better than 90% of the shit on Kickstarter, but 700€ isn't a very competitive price. Personally don't think they stand out enough, but eh.
>>54943083
>sunburst dial
Good
>domed crystal
Good
>38mm
Good
>running seconds hand unlike Hamiljew Intra-goyim
Good
>those lugs
Not good
From what I hear, Sellita movements also have various technical issues.
>>54943083
oh Jesus no,none of them look good.
>>54942953
Maybe the DK101 but even that's not fully a dress watch.
>>54943525
>From what I hear, Sellita movements also have various technical issues.
There were some issues with the original SW200 but they were sorted out with the SW200-1 revision of the movement.
>>54939533
How the fuck has that anything to do with wearing the watch on your hand?
I'd like to get pic related for my slavshit, but I'm wondering if it'll fit. I know bezels don't fit all cases because some have the crown in the way, but do classic Vostok bezels fit all, or are there differences too?
I have this exact watch, I'm thinking about ordering a black date wheel, and a black SE bezel from Meranom. Opinions?
http://meranom.com/amphibian-classic/spare-parts/vostok-amphibia-black-bezel.html
http://meranom.com/amphibian-classic/spare-parts/vostok-watch-vostok-movement-black-date-wheel-3.html
>>54944059
Yup.
Fit's all Amphibia and Komadirskie cases.
>>54944060
Oh shit that bezel is available again?
And i just ordered a new Boris bezel...
>>54941768
>underage retards talk about watches
>>54944090
Yes, it really looks like either a remake or simply a new batch of the old Soviet bezels.
So opinions?
Any guide on how to buy watches on Yahoo auctions?
>>54942661
nice watch desu
>>54939794
At this point, vintage chronometers are kind of meaningless because the adjustment they received out of the factory has long since been knocked out of whack. What really matters is the inherent accuracy and engineering of a movement. The Seiko 52 "meme caliber" is probably among the best for this.
As for new, I would think the cheapest you could get is either from Mido or Stowa. Not sure if they still make it or how much it costs, but in 2009 my dad bought a Mido Commander Chronometer for something like $900. Yeah, mid-tier swatch stuff, but it's a nice watch and fantastically accurate.
I will just dump few pictures of a watch that i encountered and love the design of.
Too bad it doesn't come in automatic version and a little bit more water resistance.
The mountain jew price also doesn't help.
>>54944208
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>>54944204
What's the point of spending €900 for a Mido when you can get a vintage Rolex for the double and some more?
Why would anyone do that?
>>54944145
As far as i recall they are trying to make them on the same machinery and in the same plant, but the batch from a of steel bezels from last year was chink in origin.
Though it's very true to the original.
>>54927726
>not knowing all watch repair is a subset of jewelers
>not knowing jewelers are all jews thats why they are called jewelers
Some people in /out/ and here have been mentioning some crucial problems with the Casio dw5600 models. Something about the heat bending thw body and water getting in through the caseback? Does anyone remember?
>>54944236
First of all, it was $900, not 900 Islamic Cuckbux. Second, when you get a vintage Rolex, count on having it authenticated and serviced, which will add a few hundred dollars to the purchase price (and as an aside, I have never seen an $1,800 Rolex in good condition with its original papers). Third, some people may not want a Rolex because it attracts unwanted attention. Fourth, my dad is not exactly a watch guy, and I couldn't help him since this was years and years ago, when the best watch I had was a Citizen diver which didn't hack and kept absolutely wretched time. Fifth, vintage Rolexes tend to run at 19,800 bph instead of 28,800. So if you want the smooooth then go Mido.
I still like the Mido though. Thin, fairly small (40mm or so) and has an inherently good movement even if the name isn't there.
What watch should I get next? I already have a SKX007, SARB033 (sold), SDGM003.
I was looking at the Steinhart Ocean one with the ceramic bezel, as it fits my price range and seems like a cool diver (I'm getting rid of my SKX007) .
What else can I get in this price range? I'm not interested in Obris Morgan, as it is too big for me.
>>54944448
Adding to this, I've already ordered a Steinhart Ocean one with the ceramic bezel, but it's taking these germans so long to ship I might as well cancel the order and just buy something else.
>>54944388
To be fair, the non-chronometer Mido's can be found used and in good shape for 300~400$. And they are good return for the shekels.
>>54944448
Seiko Monster.
I've had an 007 too and i like the Monster a lot more. Also with the spare money you could likely get an Amphibia to boot.
>>54944388
Unless you're rich and wear expensive clothes all the time people will think your rolex is a fake.
Why would I want to resell a Rolex? For €1800 I don't need the papers.
I said the double and some more, which means more than €2000.
I'm not talking about the quality of the Mido, I'm saying that I don't see how it has a space in the market. Once you go over €500 you might as well get a Rolex or something like that. What's the difference between spending €1000 and €2000 for a watch?
