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-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --
>Headphone purchase advice
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Noise isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
If you dislike a headphone suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, brand x sucks"

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Last Thread: >>54886097
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>>54917953
Sorry kiddo but "analytical" isn't a buzzword.
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Why don't you get some fashionable and good looking headphones?
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>>54917729
But is is true. Akg posters are usually the most vocal, and the most active in the threads. That is why I made the mistake of ordering some, and they do it for free. i don't see how that is not a shill, same with grados 4 years ago.
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>>54918146
Because money spent on making a headphone look pretty is money that could have been used making it sound better.
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I live in a third world shithole where amazon doesn't deliver. The only option is sony showroom in the city. So, pls recommend some good sony headphones.
>Budget
$200 max
>Location
myanmar
>Source
laptop, galaxy note 3
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
i am okay with both
>Comfort level
medium
>Preferred tonal balance
don't know
>Preferred music
hip-hop, vocaloid, EDM
>Past headphones
Razer karaken pro (It broke after 1.5 year)
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>>54918281
MDR-7506 and MDR-V6 are pretty nice if you want closed back. They're basically the same, so you should be able to get whichever is cheaper at the moment.
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techno swing/housefag here
I'm thinking about buying the custom one pro
am I going to get memed?
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>>54917983
I'd love to see you correlate 'analytical' with a response characteristic.

And no, the sharp, painful treble and tinny upper midrange are not 'analytical'.
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>>54918146
>Glossy cheap plastic
>Good looking
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Are these memes? Should I get FLC8S instead?
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>>54919843
Looks like some cheap Chinese knockoffs with the bolts and chunky angles.
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>>54919843
>>54919946
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>>54919843
They look like they are printed on a cheap 3d printer. Somehow.
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>>54919988
Or made from duct tape.
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>>54919843
Why risk it when you can get something tried and tested like the SE535
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>>54918146
beats look like shit though, and the design really dates itself. even normalfags can't look at them now and not think "oh, mid-2000s headphones".

>>54918281
unless you want to step up your budget considerably the v6 is still the best headphone sony makes imo.

>>54918406
well they're bassy if that's what you want. most of the switch positions are similar except for one where the bass just drops off. and on all of them the treble is jank. heavy drop from upper mids on, then back up to a peak. CAL is much better, and it costs less. the isolation and durability will be less though.

>>54919954
they're good, but very bass heavy, like the se215.
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LEAST SHITTY active noise cancelling headphone I can find on aliexpress?
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>Budget
$100-150
>Location
US
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
full
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
want good quality and I will sacrifice for comfort but i'll be wearing them for hours on end, so some comfort is required
>Preferred tonal balance
-
>Preferred music
rap, hip hop, everything is cool sometimes
>Past headphones
logitech g633, shitty and always fall off
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>>54920277
>on aliexpress
here is where you fucked up. I would not trust random chinks with ANC. get a bose qc series or go home. buy some old used ones if you have to.

>>54920288
xpt-100
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repostin from last thread
>Budget: $60
>Location: Canada
>Source: Phone, handheld consoles (Must have straight cable end, L shaped won't work)
Preffered Type: Full size
>Comfort Level: Not loose pls
>Past Headphones
-Sony ZX-100
Sound and comfort were pretty good, problem was that they didn't fit so well in my bag
-Status HD One
Pic related, pretty much everything I want in on-the-go audio. Great sound, detachable cable, folds up, comes with a carry pouch, even lets me blend in with normies who think im using beats. Very tempted to just get another pair
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>>54917937
Picked up a pair of Sony XBA-H1's from Best Buy for $75. These are my first in ear's and I'm very happy with them, although I'm missing my in-line mic and controls.

The frailty of the cabling and jack concern me though, I don't see them lasting a year. Any ideas as to how I can reinforce them? I was thinking about buying some cable sleeving and and running it over where the cable meeting the plug.
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Hi /hpg/. What the fuck is up with F2K on Android? I was excited to use it but it's been a huge letdown so far.

>>54920277
Ask /csg/, check their wiki first so they don't bark at you.
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Managed to sew on a piece of cloth to cover my flaking headband on my m50, feels good.
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>>54920973
Broke your modding cherry. Noice!
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>buy headphones
>sound the same as my Seinheiser 201 and they feel way to fucking strong on my head. It's like they're sucking up my eardrums

t-t-thanks /g/
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>>54922404
The weak link in your audio chain might be your source or audio files.
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>>54922482
Lossless flac.
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Just need an earphone I can put one while jogging without falling of. I prefer on-ear instead of in-ear and below $100.
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>>54922491
You forgot the source.
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>>54922404
I haven't seen anyone recommend the M50x without another anon going apeshit over the recommendation.

>>sound the same as my Seinheiser 201
You're probably just deaf.
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>>54922511
Is it possible, maybe, that these headphones are just crap? do you want this or the colored images?

>>54922533
Those two statements seem to contradict eachother.
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>>54922497
Haven't seen her in a while.
>>54922404
When I went back to the hd201's from my dt990s I couldn't understand how I ever used them. b8 or horrible hearing
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>>54922539
>Is it possible
Sure it is possible but I doubt they'd sound like Senn 201. They have very different sound signatures.

You still haven't disclosed the source and given how you've tried to dodge the question it seems unlikely to be worth any further response.
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>>54922539
>Those two statements seem to contradict eachother.
How so?
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>>54922560
They're banning mummyposters
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>>54922564
Think about it.

>>54922563
I'm not sure what source you're asking for.
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>>54922579
>I'm not sure what source you're asking for.
What player are you using? Your smartphone? Your PC? A Cowon Plenue D?
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>>54922579
>I haven't seen anyone recommend the M50x without another anon going apeshit over the recommendation.
>You're probably just deaf.
Someone recommending an M50x and getting attacked for it contradicts you not being able to hear a difference between two completely different sound signature?
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>>54922599
my PC

>>54922615
Yeah?
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>>54922617
>my PC
Probably your source then. Maybe you should look into getting an external DAC.
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>>54922572
Fell in love when the whole russian aggression thing went down and then was homeless and then did 8 months in jail. Figured she was just a forgotten thing
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>>54922635
>Figured she was just a forgotten thing
Mostly. The occasional thread still pops up on /pol/.
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>>54922617
Don't want to go too off topic but it doesn't contradict anything.
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>>54922655
Well I'm not deaf
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>>54922662
It's just an exaggeration.

Well, if you can't tell a difference I guess that's good because you get to save money.
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>Budget
80€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Rockboxed Sansa Clip Plus and Galaxy s5
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
Pretty comforable ones, since I want to use them during workouts
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
>Past headphones
Phonak Audeo PFE 111 (Used them for workouts before, but the cable started to detach on one side. Repaired them already once but it started again, now on both sides)
Shure SE535 (Sent for warranty, since one sides filter got clogged I think and sound barely comes out of it. I doubt they will repair/send me a new pair)

Stuff that would be nice:
remote (forward, pause, back)
Detachable cable, though I doubt you can get that with this budget
Tips that are compatible with the ones from Shure IEMs


I am thinking of getting the Piston 3, though I have a far better budget and I fear that they are way worse than what I had before. Any advice on them?

Also what do you think of Sennheiser Momentum? Do they just look nice and have a meme brand on them, or do they actually deliver good quality?
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>>54922874
MA 750
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>>54917937
Feels nice to have some bass for once ;)
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>>54923032
The version with the remote is slightly above my budget (100€)

Also the filter of these looks like to be completely exposed. I am afraid that they may get clogged after a short period of time like my Shures.
Did anyone had similar problems with this?

Also does someone know if the remote works with the Sansa Clip+? I'm afraid that there is no actual remote working with it...
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>>54923171
>I am afraid that they may get clogged after a short period of time like my Shures.
Three year warranty so you'll get them repaired/replaced for a long time.
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>Tfw I ignored some shills in favor of some others
>Tfw I have a pair of X2's heading my way

What am I in for bros? Music bliss or Eargrating noise?
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>>54922874
You could have replaced the 535 filters yourself.
The PFE 111 is the only thing mentioned so far that gets near neutral, but what did you think of them.

>>54922482
>>54922539
That has a very marginal relevance to do with headphones. Lossy file coding and D-A don't relate to the headphone impression.
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>order some Audio-Technica Mx50s from a store online.
>order goes fine
>sometime later get told that they couldn't verify my info
>resend info by email as requested
>no response
>try again
>no response
>try tech support
>same automated email as before and nobody to talk to.
>a month goes by
>"we've refunded you because we couldn't verify your info."
I'm not sure I could do that again. I'll wait on ordering some.
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>Budget
125$ (thought I can't say I'm too sure how much I'm willing to put in it.)
> Location
Israel
>Source
Computer
>preferd type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfort is not one of the higher priority for me but I would wear it for long hours so it should be reasonably comfortable.
It is also very importent that they would be durable.
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>Budget
Maximum €1600.
>Location
Europe.
>Source
O2+ODAC.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-Size.
>Open or closed
I prefer closed headphones but it doesn't matter as long as it sounds good.
>Comfort level
High. I don't want a fucking brick on my head.
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm.
>Preferred music
Rock and classical.
>Past headphones
Cheap $5 shit.
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>Budget
15€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Xperia Z3
>perefered type of headphone
in-ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort leven
a high priority for me, want to use them while laying on the bed, sitting in the bus, going to school etc.
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>>54917937
I was thinking of buying the ATH-R70X after the cable on my ATH-700X broke.
Any recommendations on DACs and AMPs?
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>>54924110
Was looking around alot and found that the Xiaomi Piston3 are pretty much the best ones you can get with that budget, though I haven't tried them yet.
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>kids outside blowing vuvuzelas and using airhorns

this is why i use closed headphones
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Are there still any cheap-o tier headphones that beat out the MDR V6's bang-for-the-buck yet?
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>>54924403
Thank you
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Not audio but looking for good speakers for my PC. Hopefully someone can give some guidance.

Are the Audioengine HD6 speakers worth it? Any experience with Audioengine speakers, anyone?
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>>54924915
Not headphone audio, I mean...
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>>54923058
What DAC?
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>>54923707
Unless you actually know what you're getting into I wouldn't reccomend it. Then again, I'm not in particular knowledgable, just not very satisfied with my purchase. *scratches headache*
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>>54925530
Where did you get that image? exactly!
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>>54923526
I'll see if they replace them with warranty, if not I'll give it a shot.

The PFE 111 were simply fantastic. I think these are the only ones where you could simply replace the filter if you want to have some more bass (green or black filters, white is neutral).
I had them for about 5 years and they sounded nearly as good as the Shure SE535 (Notice the price difference, about 100€ to 400€).

Mine now look like some ghetto buds with shrink tubing all around the buds to reattach the lose cable. Though the cable broke again right at the end of the shrink tube. I guess the plastic of the cable is just worn out and breaks apart easily.
Would try to buy the same ones again if there was a possibility, unfortunately Phonak bailed from the In-Ear business and you can only buy used once out there with no warranty what so ever. Also new filters cost around 30€ nowadays...
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>Buy an amp/dac with 0.1 gain
>Barely move the knob at all because it gets so fucking loud so fucking fast

Holy shit.
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Opinions on the Alpha Prime?
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I heard the HD800 has infinite detail and incredible soundstage. How much more detail does it have over the HD600s I currently own?
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>>54924745
>Are there still any cheap-o tier headphones that beat out the MDR V6's bang-for-the-buck yet?

nope

M40x comes close, but nowhere near the V6 when it coes to comfort
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>Budget
50e, slightly flexible
>Location
Finland
>Source
Pc + phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Preferrably open
>Comfort level
high, long gaming/listening sessions
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy, neutral, v-shaped
>Preferred music
Seven lions, dubstep in general
>Past headphones
hyperx cloud 1
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>>54923058
Would you suggest those headphones to a friend? I'm a bit bored of my DT990 600 and XBA H1, looking to add something new to the mix.
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Why the fuck are all the TOTL headphones priced around $2000 and above but the Sennheiser HD800/HD800S costs like $1000-$1500 and is considered to be better than most?


Like, why would I pay $2500 for an Audeze that has shit build quality but sounds good when I can get a Sennheiser for $1500 that has good build quality and sounds good?
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>>54928531
Because more expensive must be better~ Audiophiles.

Diminishing returns start at 300.
Amps and dacs hardly make a lick of difference above ODac/O2.
Most recordings aren't that great and it's ultimately the limiting factor in hi-fi.
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>>54928531
>>54928664
It feels like shopping for headphones is just a gamble because it's so difficult to listen to them in person before buying. Of course Amazon has an amazing return policy but if you do too many returns they ban you. Shit is extremely frustrating.

Also;
How can I reinforce the cabling and jack on my XBA h1? Posted this before but I'm worried that they're going to fall apart in like a year.
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>>54923526
>That has a very marginal relevance to do with headphones.
If you have a crap source it is only of marginal relevance? Because the file coding will make up for a crap source? Did you mislink?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXonTHIkMnw
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The cable of my Creative EP-630 broke. (Must be the 5th or so time this happened and I bought new ones every time when it wasn't easy to repair with the soldering iron).

Now the EP-630 are around since 2005, and most technical things got a lot better in the last 10 years and are even cheaper now.
Are there better ear buds in the same price range (about 16€, let's say up to 20€ or $) now?

It's most important for me, that the bass response is as good as the one of the EP-630 and that it has the same or a higher loudness (the EP-630 have 106dB and 16Ω).

I also have the very cheap (6€) Panasonic RP-HJE120E1 as spare ear buds, because they are often recommended. They don't sound bad too, but they aren't loud enough and I can't hear the bass. I also don't like their clunky shape.
I'm not looking for audiophile grade ear buds, I there is nothing better on the market I'm going to buy the EP-630 again.
Any tips?
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How do the MDR-V6 compare with the hifiman he350? Both are about the same price right now.
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>>54928531
>>54928664
Don't even get me fucking started on all the "custom" amplifiers and DACS that people spend thousands of dollars on. Like holy fucking shit dude, calm down with your money.
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ayo cracka which colo u want?
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>>54929210
Was able to fix them (cable broke at the soldering) successfully yet again. So I don't need new ones now.
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I just bought my first pair of decent headphones (Sony MDR-V6) and am very pleased with them. Unfortunately the headphone jack on my PC is broken.

I have been plugging them into the speaker jack instead, but this causes the PC to treat them like they're speakers, which messes up a few things. Directional sounds are definitely weird.

Is there a cheap hardware solution that will grant me another headphone jack without compromising sound quality?

I used to have a little $5 USB-to-headphone converter but the sound quality on it was really bad and it broke pretty quickly.
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>>54930322
http://www.amazon.com/HiFiMeDIY-Digital-Analog-Converter-PCM2706/dp/B00CWVDPC0
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>>54929119
sounds like an average /hpg/ poster
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Got a chance to pick up a pair of Bose qc3 about two weeks ago now and these aren't half bad at all.

These are a really nice pair of headphones, a shame bose shills kept these from being inexpensive on eBay two years ago when I wanted them
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>>54928419
I would, they're a SLIGHTLY less detailed 702 but with actual bass and sub bass, they're also more comfortable than the 702 thanks to the memory foam pads and more narrow+flexible headband.

Some people say they're a bit warm, some say otherwise. Unless you HATE a slightly warm sound then I would def recommend them. Try to get them from ebay instead of amazon though, mine cost £179.99 but they cost £220 on amazon.
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Just wondering if anyone can help me out here. I have a pair of Seinheiser HD 201. They work but the only problem is they are way too fucking quiet. The only way to get them to a decent level on my PC is to hook them up to my TV monitor and turn the EQ up to max and even then, I still have to turn the TV up pretty high. Are they supposed to be like this?
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After owning a few low impedance headphones I now bought two 250 ohm headphones (DT 770, 990). According to the specs, none of my sources (macbook, sansa clip, Yamaha ag06) should be able to adequately drive them, but I do get loud enough sound from them. Should I still get an amp made for these higher impedance headphones or is it all the same as long as it is loud enough?
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>>54930681
Bose sound good but their quality is ass. The cords will break and the plastic will snap.
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>>54930879
>According to the specs, none of my sources (macbook, sansa clip, Yamaha ag06) should be able to adequately drive them
Elaborate. High impedance loads are easier.
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>>54925431

I bought it from this listing: https://www.amazon.co.uk/HiFimeDIY-UAE23-ES9023-Optical-Converter/dp/B00AOH5JTQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1465161306&sr=8-1&keywords=sabre+dac


However the one that arrived is actually this one:https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hifime-Sabre-9018-USB-DAC/dp/B01B16X7WY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1465161306&sr=8-2&keywords=sabre+dac


I'm not sure if they sent me the best one by mistake or if the one I got is just a new shell that has replaced the old design. Either way it's great for me, the dac cancels noise and that's all it needs to do for me. I don't understand why people spend crazy money on dacs.
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>>54930870
Max volume level on your computer? What operating system? What music player software and music file? I have that headphone.
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>>54930870
Sounds like your sound card's headphone amp is weak/blown. Get an amp.
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I need a good pair of wireless earphones. I don't care about brand and I can afford a few hundred dollars at the moment but would be averse to saving up and purchasing a better pair.
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>>54925530
Nothing about my setup is reddit at all you stupid pedo.
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bose just came out with tthe qc35, wireless noise cancelling. do you think its good???
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>>54930922
Max on computer running windows 10, really high on monitor, just running music through Chrome, tried lossless and it's still quiet.

>>54930930
I'd think that too but tried using them on my phone and got the same issue, tried using the earbuds I use for running on the pc and don't get the same issue. An amp could fix it but considering these are just $60 headphones, would it make more sense just to buy a better pair?
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what does everyone think of the Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 Wireless???
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>>54930938
Whoops. I mean't that I WASN'T averse to saving up and spending more for a good pair of wireless EARPHONES just to clarify.

I know it's 'frowned upon' but there have to be some good options, if not I guess i'd like an excellent pair for sub $300 earphones.
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>>54931004
>tried using them on my phone and got the same issue
You should have included this part in your previous post.

Sounds like your cable might be loose/breaking. Send them for repair if they're under warranty otherwise try to fix/new headphones.
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>>54931004
I'm using Windows 7. Try getting a better seal by positioning them over your ears?
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>>54931019
sennheiser crap
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>>54930910
Don't know what else to say. All sources I've found say that low impedance headphones (like 32 ohm or something) are good for weak sources like a phone and that you need an amp with more power for high impedance headphones. The Fiio e10k says something like 'up to 150 ohm', for example.
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>>54931112
You need less current for high impedance headphones but more voltage. Either way, voltage sensitivity is a better indicator of how headphones will perform on your amp
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>>54931089
lol sennheiser is one of the best brands
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>Budget
Trying to keep it under $300
>Location
CA, USA.
>Source
PC, PS4
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
not too picky, as long as they don't hurt.
>Preferred tonal balance
I like bassy sounds
>Past headphones
the shitty ps gold headsets
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>>54930888
Plastic seems durable to me on the qc3 but I will agree with you on the cord being horrible.

Planning on adding a spring to prevent the ends of the jack from tearing


The noise cancellation is crazy on these
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>>54931949
MSR7
HP50
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>Budget
$100 hard limit
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear or on ear
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter as long as music quality is good.
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy, V-shaped
>Preferred music
Classic Rock
>Past headphones
$30 Apple Earpods

I'm mostly used to cheap $10 earphones but these apple ear pods I currently have sound really good imo. What I like most about them is the clarity and bass. Overall the only thing I hate about them is that they're not durable. As long as the music quality is on par or above apple ear pods I'm game. It's my personal benchmark since so far these are best sounding earphones I've owned.
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Beyerdynamic Custom One Pros or Sony MDRXB950BTs for a complete and total basshead? I need brain-rattling bass.
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>>54932259
My budget is $250 in case there's something than those, is there?
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>>54932301
*better
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http://www.eardio.com/cx300ii-precision-stereo-inear-headphones-black-p-45.html?gclid=CKLbmZP9kc0CFRCOaQodyy0Bpg

Is this site legit?
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>Budget
Like $350ish but I'm pretty flexible here.
>Location
Norway
>Source
DAC / O2 headphone amp
>Preferred type of headphones
Full size.
>Open or closed
Open if it means better sound quality.
>Comfort level
Would like for this to be high as I sit on my computer for 4+ hours almost every day.
>Preferred tonal balance
Probably neutral? I'm reluctant to get something too specialized if it means I will get worse sound on the kind of music I listen to less often.
>Preferred music
I can enjoy a wide variety of music / genres, but for the most part it ends up being electronic, either chillout / relaxing kind of stuff if I'm not doing anything special or the more upbeat kind if I want something to listen to while playing vidya.
>Music examples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX5XKFn7Ngo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFPBRIyrnyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRR2UQpZxCE
>Past headphones
AKG Q701 which is what I'm using now. I've been very happy with it but the frame or whatever holding it together got fucked up so now I can't wear them comfortably anymore, hence me looking for a new pair.
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>>54920277
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>>54932259
Somebody help please?
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>>54932259
Don't know the Sony, but... V-Moda M100.
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>>54932462
Why not just a K702 if you already like the Q701?
Alternatives in that price range usually are the DT880, HD600, HD650, AD900X and X2.
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>>54932769
Just wanted to check if anyone had anything better to recommend, but if not that's probably what I'll go with.
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>>54917937
What headphones are these actually?
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>>54932731
Would the Beyerdynamic Custom Studios be better for the same price? They're 80 ohms and I'll be using an LG V10 with them. I read that for the DAC to reach its true potential the impedance needs to be at least 50 ohms.
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>>54932462
akg k712
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>Budget
$100
>Location
The United States of America, Land of the Free
>Source
3.5mm jack. USB is fine but I prefer 3.5mm.
>Preferred type of headphone
Not sure what this means
>Open or closed
Don't mind either one
>Comfort level
mid to max comf
>Preferred tonal balance
These words pretty much mean absolutely nothing to me
>Preferred music
Rock
>Past headphones
Cheap walmart headphones, GAYMING headphones, both of which were terrible for me.

Also why is wireless frowned upon?
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>>54932924
Shure SRH's
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So are open headphones a little less sweaty in the summer than closed? Right now i've got my first ever pair of headphones and they're closed. I get a bit hot whilst having an extended session. Would open improve my experience over the summer?
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Looking to spend around 100 USD on new headphones. I'm thinking that I'll probably go with the Audio-Technica M50x. Any suggestions for better headphones in similar price range or lower?
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Are stax a meme? Why?
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What are the big differences in sound between the Sennheiser 558 and 598s? Is it worth the extra monies for the 598 if I don't want to foam mod? Otherwise:

>Budget
~$150, could go up to $200. I'm in no hurry, just scouting options.
>Location
USA
>Source
PC, Pioneer VSX-822 (for movies, XB360 and PS3) and Fiio X1 with no amp (Fiio E11 if I really need to)
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Medium
>Preferred tonal balance
Balanced to Dark, but with Mids/Treble still present
>Preferred music
Jazz, EDM, Metal, Classic or Progressive Rock
>Past headphones
M50, Porta-pros, ATH-A700, Soundmagic e80, Echobox Finder X1.

I like them all, but want to try something open for a change.
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>>54933084
Crax.
>Why?
I dunno.. They crack.
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>>54933158
Why do they crack though?
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>>54933249
Build quality.
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Just ordered a pair of porta pros for school and walking around town and shit, pretty excited. Anyone try the quarter or Kramer mod? I'll probably do the quarter one cause it's easy but the Kramer mod kinda frightens me.
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>>54933263
I see, but is the sound quality high enough to compensate?
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>>54933332
I don't know. You said if they were a meme. I remember it was called Crax one time so I brought it up. Any problem?
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>>54933349
No, not at all. Just by meme I meant if them being "endgame" was ironic for some reason.
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Posted in the old thread, but haven't received a reply. Anyone tried the Alpha Primes before?
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geek out 1000 class-a dac/amp

+

sony mdr ma900 open headphone


I have the MA900 headphone. Is the amp mentioned above a good mix?
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do I definitely need a sound interface in order to mix on my chinkpad while I have a pair of reference headphones?
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>Budget
$100-150 w/ tax
>Location
canada
>Source
ipod
>Preferred type of headphone
full
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
somewhat comfy
>Preferred music
rap/edm/metalcore/trance
>Past headphones
shitty in-ears
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>>54930915
How do you like that particular sabre DAC? I'm able to get 15 bucks off of it and so I'm thinking of upgrading from FiiO k1. I'm using my chromebook for music so I'm trying to get a really good portable set up.
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I rarely come to /g/ and this is my first time in an /hpg/ thread so sorry if I sound a bit new
I plan on buying a PS4 next month, and a headset to go with it.
Is Playstation Gold the best headset under 100 I can get? I heard people talking about ATH X40 or something, don't know the name
basically I will use the headset for music obviously, but its primarily for the PS4
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Trying to grab a pair of these for music production.. arrangement, mixing, mastering, the whole deal.

I know they're not the best but i'm hoping some audiophiles can give me some sway between these OR recommend your own for a budget around $50-$60:

Samson SR850
vs
Audio-Technica ATH-M30x
vs
Superlux HD668B
vs
Sennheiser HD 203
vs
Sennheiser HD205II

>source
headphone jack on my computer, nothing special but may upgrade to some hardware in the future

>type of headphone / open/closed
whatever gives me a better sound, not concerned about sound leakage

>comfort
can probably break into any pair but not clamping down on my head tight

>tonal balance
neutral

>past headphones
whatever-brand gaming headsets for $30
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>>54934664
It's small and works at cancelling the 'noise' that my pc offers. To me that's the point of a dac and the amp does the real work.
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>>54935455
You should be able to get a pair of MDR-V6s or MDR-7506s for a little more than that. They sound good, and they're apparently pretty popular in professional music production.
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What's the difference between Sennheiser HD 598 and HD 598se?
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>>54935966
I think it's just the color.
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>people praising the m50s and grados as the best headphones under $100 a few years back when i visited headphone threads.
>people shitting on them now, froth at their mouths at the mere mention of them
>even Beats don't get that bad of a reaction

how did this meme started and what perpetuates it or is 4chan just being a bunch of contrarian children as always?
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>>54935754
But don't amps just increase volume? That DAC doesn't actually change much of the sound in a good way?
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Is Hi-Res audio actually worth anything, or is it a meme?
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>>54935455
>location

We don't ask this for fishing purposes, we need to know where you're from so we know what it will cost.
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>>54936259
One or two people decided that m50's were no longer worth what they're being charged so decided that they're a terrible purchase and continue to shit on everyone who buys them regardless of their experience, needs or previous headphones.

Grados get shit for having low QC and looking like something a hipster would wear despite probably nobody in these threads listening to let alone owning a pair.

Both are memes you should ignore. Welcome to /hpg/
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Is the Sennheiser HD451 or HD461 a good buy?
I need a replacement for my old pair of HD 555s because the connector is loose.
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>>54937430
The 558 or 598 would be a better replacement.

Just make sure your headphone amp has low output impedance, or the bass around 100hz will be boosted significantly.
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>Tfw you ignore /g/'s rampant buyers remorse fags and buy a pair of X2's since they're clearly the best headphones in their price range

No amount of Gibson fearmongering can keep us apart.
Tomorrow cannot come soon enough.
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>>54936838
It's completely useless for listening purposes. There are no benefits to using it.

https://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
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>>54938471
If you didn't have buyers remorse you wouldn't post about them.
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>>54938653
>Buyers remorse
>On a product I don't even have yet.

That's not how it works.
I also have the luxury of simply returning it if it turns out to be shit, thanks to Amazon's wonderful return policies.
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>Budget
$500AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
Hifime Sabre 9018 USB DAC
>Preferred type of headphone
Overear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Average. 2 hours max I guess.
>Preferred music
Vapourwave, 80s jpop, hiphop
>Past headphones
Apple headphones.
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>>54938730
PM3
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>>54938726
Must suck to be an amerifat and rely on an actual store to make sure you can return a product. In my first world country, we can return whatever we want for no reason within 48 days. It's the law :^)
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>>54938471
>i know they're the best
>i haven't heard them yet
Man how do you get this much buyer's remorse before even buying something?
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>>54938779
>>54938785
>k702 owners are already shitting the bed because of their piss poor choice in headphones
You cannot make this shit up.
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>>54938809
>K702
I'm not that retarded. But you seem to be, buying the colored fucking mess that is the X2. Enjoy having zero subbass, bloated muddy midbass and treble spikes.
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>>54938809
>k702 owners are already shitting the bed because of their piss poor choice in headphones

Where did I ever type that I own the K702? Nice reading comprehension and projecting, Pajeet. Now go shit in the street.
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>>54938809
>He's so insecure about his choice of headphones that haven't even arrived yet that he feels the need to project his insecurities on others and even assume that they own a specific headphone when they never even mentioned it previously
You're a special kind of retard aren't you???
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>>54938819
>>54938907
>>54938925

It's a "shitter shattered K702 shills asshurt that they won't be getting their pay this week" episode.

Loving every laugh.
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>>54938974
t. poorfag who can only afford low-fi shit like X2
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>>54939007
t. triggered buyers remorse sufferer who is upset that the X2's blow $800 headphones out of the water

Where oh where did I put my sides this time?
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>>54939029
X2's get blown out of the water by $50 headphones l0l

even beats solo 2 have higher fidelity
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>>54939036
solo 2 is treble suicide that only gets beat by the el8
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>>54939078
X2 is treble rape that is worse in every single way to the solo2
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>>54939036
>You will never damage control this hard due to being upset that you made the inferior choice

Sucks to be you, Hammad
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>>54939086
feel free to prove otherwise using something other than your made up anecdotal evidence
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>>54938471
what did you own before? if you like bright or mid-y stuff you probably wont like them. if you liked v-shaped/bassy with open you will.
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>>54939083
now you're being silly.
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>>54939095
see >>54939092

all measurements suggest solo2 are superior
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>>54939092
>feel free to prove otherwise
Gladly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_RJ3M_v8is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y2ZZxcBZ88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT97GjKRgug

All of which have tested more headphones than you ever will.

Bonus video of an amateur to the audiophile world who has all of the flagship headphones in this price range with him and still chose the X2's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTO7004syOA

As well as the highest recommended set of cans on Head-Fi.

So who do I trust? Some asshurt /g/ user who is upset that he fell for the K702 meme, or literally everybody else who hails the X2's as the ultimate headphone in the $500 range.

Checkmate tbqh lmao
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>>54939150
>Gladly.
still waiting for you to prove otherwise. you took that time to write up that pathetic shitpost and couldn't come up with a single word of evidence suggesting they're better than beats
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>>54939163
Not the same anon but your arbitrary dismissal of his evidence is pathetic. Normally I let these childish "nuh-uh you didn't"/"uh-huh I did" tantrums run their course but this shit is just stupid.
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>>54939189
he did not provide a slither of evidence. how can i dismiss something that isn't there?
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se535 or savant?
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>>54939163
>still waiting for you to prove otherwise.
I just did.
Still waiting for you to prove it without parroting audiophile terms that you clearly don't understand.
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>>54939197
You asked for something other than his "anecdotal evidence." He provided authoritative citations which you just rejected out of hand. You didn't undermine or attack the validity of his evidence. You just rejected it out of hand. That is what I call stupid shit because it is the same argumentative tactic a nine year old uses.
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>>54939163
>>54939197
you lost all credibility when you resorted to
>m-muh graphs
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>>54939243
>authoritative
oh fuck off you retard
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>>54939251
You know. If you want to be treated like an adult around here you should stop acting like a nine year old.
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>>54939251
Not the anon you're responding to, but you're doing it again.
Hate to break it to you, but greentexting something and then evading what somebody is saying doesn't mean you win the argument. It makes you look like a child that doesn't understand how to debate somebody.
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>>54939280
good job exposing yourself as a child. > has been used for quoting longer than the majority of people in these threads have been alive
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>>54939297
>Nuh uh, I'm not a kid you are!
Pottery.
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>>54939309
you're not even trying to hide the fact that you're shitposting.
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>>54939323
Mate, you got blown the fuck out and have added nothing meaningful to the thread.
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>>54939348
X2 shilling and outright lying is apparently meaningful

bravo shitposter
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>>54939358
>outright lying
>"X2 is treble rape that is worse in every single way to the solo2"

When you make comments like this, it's no wonder that you're being laughed out of the thread.
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>>54939379
still waiting for you to prove otherwise
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>>54939392
It's already been done so thankfully I don't need to lift a finger.
Still waiting to see how you handle discrediting people who have far more experience than you as far as reviewing headphones goes.
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>>54939421
>>54939379
he's shitposting because he got destroyed. just report him and move on.
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>>54939421
>i think these guys have experience with headphones because all i have are these $200 shitheaps
adorable
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>>54939358
>anti-shilling shitposting is ok because I'm fighting the good fight against all those X2 shills!

heres a tip bro: you're getting fucking trolled. no one thinks the x2 is perfect. but the response from antis because people dared to question their sacred cow (whatever it may be) has be hilarious.
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>>54939466
>but the response from antis because people dared to question their sacred cow (whatever it may be) has be hilarious.
maybe you should reconsider replying to me when you finally realize what i'm doing
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>>54939436
Want to compare audio setups?
I'm quite confident my speaker setup alone costs more than whatever shitty pair of cans you have.

What do you even? List your audio gear.

Also keep evading the things that matter because you do not understands the basics of a debate.
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>>54939492
"i know, i'll get him to list his audio gear so i can ridicule it while also not actually posting any evidence of my setup!"
you got me dude
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So what's the best kind of sound for rock music? Warm? I don't really know all the terms for audio so sorry about that.
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>>54917937
>Budget
Doesn't matter
>Location
Doesn't matter
>Source
Doesn't matter
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
good ?
>Preferred tonal balance
Doesn't matter
>Preferred music
Doesn't matter
>Past headphones
Doesn't matter

what's a good wood/wood accented pair of headphones? i like the look of EL-8's, but i hear they a shit
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>>54940015
>i like the look of EL-8's, but i hear they a shit

>>Preferred tonal balance
>Doesn't matter
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>>54940015
sennheiser hd800s
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So I've got a Sound Blaster Z and its pretty great. Except it doesn't work with Linux, which is a bit of a problem for me. The main reason I stick with it is because of the headphone surround sound virtualization it includes. I'm aware of a couple other implementations like it (CMSS-3D and Dolby Headphone) but I have no idea if they're Linux compatible. And to be honest I'd probably rather just have a USB DAC for simplicity.

Are there any Linux compatible sound cards or external DACs that include something like CMSS-3D or Dolby Headphone?
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>>54936535
Honestly I can't tell if the dac is changing the sound, it just allows me ot remove the 'noise' from my onboard sound.

The amp does increase the sound, but certain demanding headphones need to be driven 'properly'. it's not as simple as you may think.
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>>54940015
HE-1000
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>>54940325
it's not as complicated as head-fi has brainwashed you into thinking either
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>>54940388
I remember when I first bought my amp and dac. Head-Fi and /r/headphones made it out to be some kind of life changing experience.

But it just sounded a little better.
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>>54939229
savant
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>>54940794
Not even once
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Alright i have no one else to turn to.
Google has failed me for once.

I weigh comfort factor almost as equally as sound quality, which made me drop the JVC FX850 from my choice.

>Budget
500
>Location
Singapore
>Source
DX80
>Preferred
IEM
>Comfort level
High
>Music i listen to:
Trance and Electronic house
>Used to own:
Sony MDR EX-300, SE215 SPE

Im now torn between IM03, W40 and SE535 red. Which IEM should i choose?
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>>54940911
>EX-300
Did your EX-300 ever come with a square case like this? I find it hard to buy another genuine one online.
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>>54941032
No, it didnt.
That looks pretty sweet though
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>>54935136
Same poster, sorry for bumping
I'd just like a single advice
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>>54929028
They make very different type of artifacts, so it is of marginal relevance.

>>54933834
>Alpha Prime
I don't like the dark tone, but more so, the FR unevenness. I don't like any of those T50RP derived headphones, mind you.

>>54934616
Not necessarily, not that I really know the audio circuitry used.
Being a reference headphone doesn't make the electrical load any different inherently.

>>54940911
Watch out for the memory wire, not everyone likes it. It should be easier to get a new cable for the 535 and W40 (MMCX) than the the IM03.
Singapore should have a ton of shops with demos though, go out there, use the sets and find some more.

IM03 is in the line of the CK100Pro. V-shape balance and bright. Accessories are limited, from what I remember. Didn't spend much time with either.

SE535 Red and W40 are darker sets, the modified 535 less so. Acoustically, the 535 red is just another 535, with a grey (330Ω) damper. You can swap it out yourself.
535 has flatter bass/mid, W40 is more midbassy and upper mid recessed. 535 tends to roll off the highs, barring canal induced peaks, W40 has good treble extension but with a more general reduction in level.
535 is more sensitive than W40, to the extent that is hiss sensitive. 535 is very sensitive to impedance which will cut the highs even further, W40 is much less so. That would increase the upper mid some if you had enough in line.

Shure and Westone share nozzle diameter, so you can use Shure foams and Westone Star interchangeably if you are inclined.
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>>54941309
>They make very different type of artifacts
You sir, are a retard. Even cheap analog to digital converters do not independently create artifacts. If the artifacts are not in the file the aren't going to be created by your source.
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>>54941309
Seems like W40 is right up my alley then.
Bless you anon.
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I have $150 to spend on a gaming headset. Leaning towards the Cloud II's. Is there something better at this price range? The mic isn't important since I already have a good one.
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>>54917937
MMkay, fa/g/gots. I need a frowned-upon wireless headset for my PC. I'm in meetings for a lot of my work day (work from home) and sometimes I need to take a shit or walk on my treadmill without missing anything.

Also, I have large ears and some of these headphones just don't fit.

Pastebin answers:
Budget is whatever I need it to be.
Amerifat.
Plugging into PC.
Closed.
Need to be as comfortable as possible.
Preferred tonal balance -- don't know enough to say.

Preferred music -- instrumental/electronic/classical

Past headphones --
Sades 7.1 Pro USB "Gaming" Headset, pic related.

Likes: They were cheap
Dislikes: Not comfortable
No indicator to say whether I was muted or not.
Low volume was still high. (Mute to 1% is abrupt)
Not wireless so I can't go take a shit.
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>Budget
~$100
>Location
I live in middle east but there are third parties that can deliver from anywhere .
>Source
Laptop and PC - my HTC One M8 - I mainly want this for watching movies on my laptop and watch porn without some one knowing whats going on - also a bit of gaming .
>Preferred type of headphone
full- 3.5MM no USB .
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
I want to use it in nights , some times I may wear them for like 6-7 hours nonstop , still doesnt matter if I sacrifice comfort over quality or vice versa , just let me know if u know better options .
>Preferred tonal balance
-
>Preferred music
Rock - Gothic Rock ( I may listen to the rest of genres)
>Past headphones
I had my HTC headphones before they broke - had some cheap ass shit before since I used my Karaoke speakers for a long time .
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whats the best upgrade from a Xonar DG soundcard?
I know most audiophiles prefer DACs but I need muh Dolby Headphone
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Any one got any suggestions? I'm this guy>>54932155
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>>54942275
They're really comfy, so they have that going for them.

Hijacking to ask about amplification:
I bought the Cloud Core which comes without the USB soundcard, however my on-board DAC is really quiet.
What's a good sub-€100 amplifier/DAC to pair it with?
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>>54936259
M50s are good for $100. Anymore and its not worth the price.
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>>54934629
lads?
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>>54942503
Sennheiser Momentum wireless
Jabra Revo
Sony SBH20 + whatever headphone you like
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>>54941382
Not that anon but talk about pot calling the kettle black. Price is irrelevant, all cheap and expensive DA-converters exhibit some amount of nonlinearities and cause artifacts to the signal. Whether these are audible is another question. The point was about the type of artifacts they cause and the artifacts created by lossy audio compression are mostly fundamentally different from the headphone response and its limitations.
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>>54940425
Since no one can definitively say how much of a difference DACs make I'm starting to think it's all placebo. Sure it may may convert a digital signal to analog, but it seems like people have widely different opinions on what they do. What are your opinions on this /hpg/?
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>>54943898
upgrading your dac does fuck all. Your motherboard already has a good dac. The difference (if there is one) between onboard and an external DAC is very small and probably not noticeable.

This is coming from someone with a schiit modi, so it's not like I'm against them. However when I got them I didn't notice a difference at all. It looks cool on my desk so there's that.

Even upgrading your amp is overrated imo. I upgraded from just plugging in my headphones (who according to headfi "need an amp") to a schiit stack and the difference is very small. Maybe my hearing is bad.
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>>54943994
This. Maybe instead of investing in "hi-fi" DACs and amps people should just invest in decent headphones. I can see how low bitrate music can sound bad vs 320 but I also don't think there's a difference between that and FLAC.
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>>54943994
It's just features like Asynchronous playback, DSD128, or higher 192kHz / 384kHz upscale. And balanced interconnect connections. Some come with a remote control too.
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>>54917937
>Budget
200€
>Location
Portugal
>Source
FiiO E10K
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Sound quality is the most important
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Various genres of metal (thrash, melodeath, death, black, doom), house music, vaporwave, nujabes, post-rock, shoegaze and various other
>Past headphones
Shitty creative fatal1ty from 2008
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>>54937347
thought you might assume USA
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>>54943762
>all cheap and expensive DA-converters exhibit some amount of nonlinearities and cause artifacts to the signal. Whether these are audible is another question
I'll make a slight modification if you want to be pedantic.
>Even cheap analog to digital converters do not independently create _audible_ artifacts.

His objection is still trivial and based upon ignorance.
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>>54940388
>Brainwashed

No, I actually bought this amp because I needed one that can go very loud for a specific reason, it also happens to be highly rated and I plan on keeping it for my entire life if it doesn't break. It will be more than worth the money over time.
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>>54918146
but i have some already. comfy af too

>>54918281
save your money for a plane ticket out of that shithole

>>54920277
just don't>>54920277

>>54920277
meme50s, not even memein'

>>54920607
take good care of them. next time, buy detachable iems

>>54924086
hd800s? if you're going full autismo it's the only way
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>>54942503
>>54942275

Why not buy some decent headphones that you can use for something other than gaming and a separate microphone?
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>Budget
€ 300, flexible
>Location
Belgium
>Source
Mostly smartphone (Android), Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-Ear
>Open or closed
These will mostly be used in public transit, library,gym, etc. So closed.
>Comfort level
Don't care. Sound quality and build quality are most important.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral I guess?
>Preferred music
Listening mostly to Neo-Psychedelia and Synthwave. But I listen to most genres, least favourite music is probably Metal and sub-genres.
>Past headphones
Parrot Zik V1, Marshalls, PSN M4U2.
> Other.
Don't care about looks but don't want white ones or other 'bright' colours.
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>Budget
I'd prefer to spend no more than $100.
>Location
US.
>Source
Laptop.
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear.
>Open or closed
I'm fine with both.
>Comfort level
Very important.
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't know, so I guess neutral?
>Preferred music
Shoegaze, noise, glitch (and other related genres), emo - stuff that's often texture rich.
>Past headphones
Most recent are Beyerdynamic DT 770's and Sony MDR-XB450. I loved the former, but one of the joints connecting the cup to the band broke very recently. The latter are my reserve headphones, and are what I'm using right now.
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>>54946815
MSR7

>>54946999
HD558
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>>54947061
>HD558
Thanks anon.
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>Budget
$150, or $200 if the extra $50 is really worth it
>Location
'Murica
>Source
PC, phone for music on the go
>Preferred type of headphone
over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed, have roommates, wanna use em in public and I fly a lot
>Comfort level
Very important, want something I can leave on for literal hours
>Preferred tonal balance
v-shaped
>Preferred music
Rock, some metal, eurobeats (fucking love me initial D eurobeats)
>Past headphones
cheap plantronics shit, shit earbuds, and recently steelseries siberia elite prisim or w/e they're called
>Other
I really want headphones with a suspended band like my siberia elites, its super comfy for me

Thanks anons
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>>54946622
If I were to game with decent speakers... and have something like the Samson Meteor microphone, would it pick up the speaker noise? How do I mitigate this issue?
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>>54940015
ATH-W series.
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>>54947545
>closed-back
>very comfortable
>V-Shape
literally the DT770.
No supended band though, sorry, don't know of closed-back models in that price range that offer that.
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just bought an hd650, schiit stack

bout god damn time boys. this is my first real headphone setup, been listening to shitty JVC's through the mobo for 5+ years now
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>Budget
$80 preferably can squeeze more
>Location
USA
>Source
chinkpad
>Preferred type of headphone
negligible
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
should be at least able to listen to an album before taking them off due to whatever
>Preferred tonal balance
never understood how this relates to music
>Preferred music
jazz of the post-bop and the fusion varieties, experimental japanese music a la Phew and Otomo Yoshihide
>Past headphones
overpriced headset

alternatively I can spruce up this one guitar I have and try to sell it for more, but nobody I know knows anything about how to do that
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>>54948953
MDR V6 or 7506, whichever you find for less.
About the tonal balance, it's just that some people enjoy more bass in detriment of mids or treble, some like v-shape or warm signatures, some want as flat as possible, if you say something like "warm, too much treble makes my ears tired" we can point you a different direction than if you say 'bright, i need to pinpoint details when editing stuff".
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