>257.7 MB
Why does this generation of programmers suck?
>mac
>>54902323
I stole this pic from another thread
I'm obviously an Arch and Vim user
Without any incentive to make things deliberately small, developers will naturally use as much space as possible. No doubt within a decade atom will reach 2.5gb.
>>54902378
How do you even do it? This is more than just carelessness
>>54902311
>Built on node and chromium
>>54902311
>apple
>calling anything shit
>apple
>APPLE
>>54902311
i fail to see why that matters at all. how many editors do you actually use? if vim was 250mb and nothing else changed i'd still use it
This shit would use half of my ThinkPad's RAM wtf
>>54902496
Poorfag
Also just because a binary is 250mb doesn't mean it even uses 250mb, in this case it probably would because electrum
It's a text editor based on Chromium that reports back to Google Analytics, what the fuck do you expect?
Aren't text editors supposed to be more lightweight than IDEs?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10392618/
>>54902478
It's not about practicality. It's about letting me sleep easy at night.
>>54902631
This desu
Webdevs are cancer
>>54902311
Because
>CODING IS FUN xD
>>54902496
how exepnsive is ram? you can liteally buy 16gb for $100
>>54902670
>$100
that's twice as much as I paid for this computer
>>54902631
Your sleep is affected by the reported size of a binary program? You might want to get professional help for that.
>>54902683
Also memory usage and processor cycles.
>>54902710
>>54902631
>>54902350
Please be a joke. Nobody on /g/ can be this autistic.
>>54902416
>chromium
is it really? how?
>>54902760
It doesn't actually stop me sleeping. It just upsets me when I think about it.
>>54902680
well, you obviously bought an outdated unit
>>54902406
Abstractions are "cool", they'll use more of them, because it's 2016 etc etc dev time > machine time (ignoring that machine time = user time because selfish bastards etc etc)
>>54902478
Doubtful, vim's initial pull is the illusion of it being minimal
but it's ifdef hell and a bunch of amateurs managed to lighten it considerability (neovim). You'd probably switch to neovim.
>>54902766
Retards are using browser rendering engines and web servers as widget toolkits now.
http://electron.atom.io/
>>54902803
How the fuck is it outdated if it does everything I want just fine? I avoid bloatware and I'm fine.
github is a rails app, did you really expect them to put out a desktop application that was optimized? they care about rapid development, so they pick technologies they know and can iterate in faster. then they let end users deal with poorly optimized programs by purchasing better hardware. lots of games are like this too now. why optimize when it will delay release?
meanwhile my sublime text 3 process is running at 35MB... that's more reasonable I guess
Not that binary filesize matters, but
>based Sublime
>>54906071
>mine is smaller
wut
>>54906097
Looks like you have an older version?
>>54906071
>>54906097
>Every machine now has 4GB of RAM
>Complain about 250MB being used
>>54906097
>>mine is smaller
>wut
you have an older version.
the last release has more features and bug fixes
The entire OpenBSD operating system is only 233.7 MB.
>>54906190
6/10 almost fell for it
>>54906190
epik /b/ro
>>54906214
>>54906219
>Every machine now has over 500GB of space
>Complain when a program takes up 250MB
>>54902311
many OS X applications take up an incredible amount of space once they're extracted from the DMG. it's ridiculous.
>>54906241
So
program A : 250 MB
program B: 30 MB
Note that Program A and B do the same thing, but you prefer the program A?
kys
>>54906295
Very VERY interesting that you gathered that from my post.
>>54906321
what?
>>54902311
youre supposed to run atom in a linux vm
4coder guys
it's made by a guy that cares about performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyw_g1l1Zcg
>>54906357
>Implying any text editor performs badly
>>54902311
>Why does this generation of programmers suck?
It's "coders", or even better "code artisan".
>>54906373
Atom does.
>>54902311
They don't use machine code like real men
>>54902311
Hey, that was my picture.
And I was mocking the size of Atom, not in any way advocating its use.
I obviously use pic.
>>54902653
>coding is a "normie thing" now
>/g/ leaves coding and hops on to the shitty consumerist bandwagon
I wish I could just leave this hellhole already
>>54906190
>>Every machine now has 4GB of RAM
>>Complain about 250MB being used
>4GB
>four
Get a job so you can ride the 16GB meme.
>>54902311
>Why does this generation of programmers suck?
>>54906711
if i ever see that bitch irl i will go full autist and run up and beat her face in to the point where she will either no longer look human or be dead
>>54903031
>if it does everything i want it to it isn't outdated
>if it was made in 1955 but it does everything i want it to it isn't outdated
>>54902350
wtf why do you have to bring up the fact you use Arch. NOBODY CARES about you shit distro. Please leave.
>>54902350
DELETE THIS
>>54902311
>tfw I can't tell if I need more ram because software is just getting bigger and doing more, or if programmers are just lazy as balls
It's both, but fuck me.
250 mb isn't even a lot you morons
>>54902311
but look how sexy you can make atom look. almost looks as based as vim, but with advanced gui
>>54908923
hi millennial
>>54909168
sublime text is better and faster
>>54902311
Because way too many front end web devs want to feel like they're coding gods who are overlords of the programming universe and are dragging the world into the future kicking and screaming.
In reality they're interior designers who think they're skyscraper architects.
Just look at this shit. No extensions, nothing open but a blank document. Absolutely inexcusable.
latest version of sublime text on linux
20.1 MB
>>54908923
It is for a text editor.
>>54902311
>>54906071
>>54906097
>>54906165
>>54906637
>>54909308
>>54909329-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 24 Oct 29 1929 /bin/ed
-rwxr-xr-t 4 root 1310720 Jan 1 1970 /usr/ucb/vi
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.89824e37 Oct 22 1990 /usr/bin/emacs
“Ed is the standard text editor.”
Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.
ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!! Not a “viitor”. Not a “emacsitor”. Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
TEXT EDITOR.
When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their “edlin” on a Unix standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs? Surely you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The standard.
Ed is for those who can remember what they are working on. If you are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs, you should not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION. THE SO-CALLED “VISUAL” EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!
>>54906295
>program A: open source
>program B: closed source
A it is.
>>54909374
i bet you have at least one proprietary software in your computer
>>54909329
:^)
>>54909349
>emacs filesize
>>54909374
You'd be a fool to use program A just for being open source when there are other superior FOSS options.
Atom being FOSS is invalidated by it being a flaming turd.
>>54909392
nice
but note that sublime text has a lot more features then np++
>>54909168
>sexy
I bet you think Javascript is "sexy" too you fucking reedditard mongoloid
>>54909418
shut the fuck up
![iQ0l[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/U00kMUC.png "iQ0l[1].png")
>>54909392
:^))))))
>>54909329
>>54909224
>>54906071
Is Sublime Text 3 out of beta yet? I only use editors that have been stable for 30 years.
>>54906410
HE'S NOT LYING EITHER!
>>54909463
>>54909392-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 47784 Apr 30 09:45 /usr/bin/ed
>>54906097
nice icon. can you link it?
>>54909409
Werks on my machine
>>54909490
>privacy reminder
>>54909484
Sublime Text 3 is currently in beta but it works flawlessly
>>54909512
do you want the .icns file?
>>54909308
your autism is absolutely inexcusable
>>54909546
Then why is it still in beta? Are there more planned features to implement?
It looks like I can use vi's keybindings using the Vintage package.
>>54909418
>implying it isnt
>>54909614
atom has better vim support. there are even nerdteree shortuct extensions for treeview. and of course, you can write your own.
>>54909567
Wanting efficiency in the tools one uses is not autism. What you're doing is like calling anybody not driving a hummer autistic because hey, who gives a fuck about gas milage?
>>54902311
because there has never been a better time for half-assed web dev hipsters like >>54909168 to proliferate, "geek culture" is the in thing, hardware is ultra-fast, and the internet is full of websites and forums that exist solely to spoonfeed newshits
throw that in with the egotistical nature of code monkeys and the selfishness of millennials (why should I care if my program runs like shit on someone else's machine? they should stop being poor and trying to interfere with my ARTISTIC VISION!) and you get a recipe for disaster
>>54906826
I would kiss her.
>>54902683
web technologies should stay on the web, we do't want them to infect our computer with google malwares.
The average webdev is as retarded as the average soldier and they will produce shitty softwares.
We already have the java cancer on our machines we don't want that node.js disease.
>>54902841
Much better than a piece of shit like win32 API actually. It's still shit though. The correct implementation is to create a HTTP API endpoint and make clients that use it. One of those can be an HTML5 page.
>>54902311
>>54910852
Does the shadow add the extra size?
>>54902841
>>54902841
combining the worst technologies to do something they're not for.. why not?
>>54902311
Just use sublime text desu
>>54912335
Only a dumb nigger would use memey editors like sublime. Why would you restrict yourself to such an underpowered editor?
>>54912543
>Why would you restrict yourself to such an underpowered editor?
I just checked, and I was able to use Sublime Text, notepad and GNU nano all at the same time. Where is this restriction you speak of?
>>54912945
you're restricting yourself by using not one, but three terrible editors
>>54910424
thats what electron does
>>54913009
You don't know what the word restricting means, do you?
>>54906200
bloat
>>54908923
250M for a text editor is beyond a joke
>2016
>OS X
>Not using TextMate
Wew lass
>>54913495
>>2016
>>OS X
PAJEET MY SON
>>54909279
This pretty much desu
Webdev is spreading its cancer
>>54909279
Your tears are delicious
>>54910424
Don't you talk shit about win api if you're too dumb to understand it, you cocksucking faggot bitch.
>>54906071
That's Mac too. Mac uses all static libraries. I don't use Sublime, but i don't doubt that it's even smaller on Linux.
>>54906295
both file sizes are inconsequentially small
you're not installing thousands of 250mb programs on your computer, right?
>>54910939
>worst technologies
What browser rendering engine is better then?
If they used Gecko or something it surely would have lower performance.
>>54909168
Looks like shit.
>>54902478
The problem is that Atom doesn't actually do anything better than text editors that use 5MB. It's basically a slow and shitty Sublime Text clone.
I've had Intellij IDEA Ultimate open for a week with a medium size project open and it's only using ~250MB and it has thousands of features that Atom will never have.
>>54902311
Interpreted languages where there's no need to formally allocate and release memory
>>54909512
I'm pretty sure it was this. you could just drag it over the icon in that "info" panel in OS X
>>54909490
I'm surprised battery life isn't mentioned more often. Atom had a worse effect on my battery life than watching full screen 1080p movies.
>>54915914
Which other editor:
>is open source
>has package/plugin manager with large community and large amount of content that all are open source and easy to modify
>is suitable for developing in plenty of programming languages instead of focusing on single one
>has easy to modify, powerful and good looking layout system?(terminal can never looks this nice)
I'm not saying these things are necessary for text editors, but these features are something that I really enjoy about Atom.
>>54902766
>>54902311
>>54902566
They wanted to write it in JavaScript/Node but they realized that only browsers run JS. So they did what any good Pajeet would do, they packed a browser with their code.
>All these Macfags using shit meme editors like Atom and Sublime.
Just nuke this board already.
>>54916217
When I was a Macfag (which I may be again), I used Aquamacs.
>>54916217
did you see the other thread where people say they only use notepad++ and MS Word?
are you so fucking autistic that you've lost all sense of perspective?
>>54916242
That's just as bad. Two sides of the pleb coin.
>>54916258
you think using MS Word is equivalent to sublime and atom?
this is exactly what i mean by a loss of perspective.
>>54916217
people use them because they're useful, intuitive and save labor
>>54916528
GUYS GUYS!
What if we just used whatever we wanted and didn't waste our lives getting angry over what other people use?
>>54917747
2/10 Not enough window shadow.
>>54915589
>What browser rendering engine is better then?
>If they used Gecko or something it surely would have lower performance.
You missed the point. Browser tech is shit at anything beyond presenting documents with occasional light interactivity. It's closer to being a PDF than a program.
What web apps do is like building a rube goldberg machine around a paper book so you can use the book as a monitor. Pop open the hood of Chromium or Gecko some time and look at their source... it's an unholy mess despite some of the world's best software engineers working on it because it's so ill-suited to application development. These days browser engines do almost everything an OS does except in a massively inferior manner. There are many facets of browser engines that desktop OSes from 2000 did better (on vastly less powerful hardware to boot!). It can't be exaggerated how shitty web apps and modern browsers really are.
>>54916217
emacs isn't my cup of tea and while I've wanted to learn vim, the console-ness of the editor (even in UI clients) and the fact that its shortcuts are radically different from everything else has been a significant barrier to adoption. Give me a version of vim with a native OS text area and that'd help a lot; let me use at least *some* of the standard OS shortcuts (like Save, cut, paste, etc) and you've got something I'd have a much easier time dedicating time to learning.
