Old thread coming to an end
>>54897673
>mfw
bought a pok3r finally, now i need some meme caps
might post on these threads regularly so i need a better picture
>>54897673
oh man I like that keyboard. I want a nice one but I have to get a meme one because I like the USB passthrough as I'm frequently swapping peripherals. I should just get a usb hub for my desk, I don't know why I'm so resistant.
also what headphones are you driving balanced?
>>54897834
I like AKG headphones and cats.
>>54897924
spoopy
>>54897924
AKG's are popular around here today.
Do you do a podcast or something or is that mic for gayman?
>>54898013
I use some ATH M50's, had them for years now
I got a free TV from Craigslist that I'm using as a monitor, any ideas to raise it so that won't make it look tacky (I'm not going to use some books). I also need to buy a new surge protector and figure out where to put my lamp, and I need to move my Captain America Winter Solider poster.
>>54897924
what you need is better lighting.
>>54898013
>AKG's are popular around here today.
>Do you do a podcast or something or is that mic for gayman?
This supposed to be for me?
I dont do a podcast and dont really play any games currently. Just like nice things.
Posting my station before the fake comes along. Any plans this weekend?
>>54897673
>that table sag
>>54898185
>implying it makes any difference whatsoever.
>>54898161
Nice headphone and speaker stands.
>>54897673
>>54898185
That is a bit unnerving.
>>54898126
I really want one of those chairs but they're a bit too pricey for me right now.
>>54898161
I've gone back and forth with the hd800 since 2009 and I just can't pull the trigger. I like them but getting another set of headphones would be ridiculous.
>>54898208
from the thumb I thought it was a trs80 but a c64 ain't bad.
>>54898114
sorry I fucked up, it was meant for the person above you.
>>54898208
Very retro I love it.
>>54897673
>>54898208
remember not to copy that floppy
>>54898126
You are the fake. Why would you save the herman miller boner photo as "hm" if it was your own desk?
>>54897673
That sag concerns me.
>>54898307
What size and brand is that TV? I dig the setup.
>>54898269
What model of keyboard is this?
just took a new picture.
>>54898310
it's stayed that way for about a year and hasn't gotten any worse. It doesn't concern me at all.
>>54898307
are you a neet with rich parents?
My monitor stand comes in tomorrow so it'll look much nicer, and easier for me too since they sit too low. I'm gonna try having one monitor vertical, but I think 16:9 is a bit too tall, I won't know until I try though.
>>54898326
Got most of my shit from thrift stores and goodwill so.
>>54898336
Nice PlayStation monitors, just needs a cable sleeve / gutter thing for the tv wires.
>>54898332
It is an old Focus Electronic keyboard with white alps that I got from my University's surplus shop.
>>54898359
i was just using a paper towel tube and some gorrila tape for now.
>>54898336
PS triple monitors lol ayy
>>54898381
Ok, I know amazon sells decent ones.
>>54898109
Just ordered a color-changing light bulb, it's pretty bright and i hope to match it with F.lux
>>54898208
>crosley
Why? They will kill your records.
>>54898369
You lucky bastard...
>>54898510
I got a model m too, and they were $10 each.
Finally moved into my new room and I got a TV, this dorm is much newer
>>54898546
>>54898499
The turntable isn't mine, I've got Technics gear.
>>54898126
>ma nigga
>>54898565
looks uber comfy
>>54898351
Nice CRT.
>>54898546
Do you have a lounger chair to view the tv from? If so this is a 10/10 setup imo
>>54898358
If I were you I would keep my tower on the ground so that you can have some desk space.
What keyboard is that?
>>54898013
Is that a tv?
>>54898703
MiniTouch SllG
>>54898701
Kind of a shit quick picture but this is taken from my futon
>>54898780
nice
>>54898807
I bought it for $1 at a local thrift store
>>54898748
Your own art?
Do you do graffiti/street art, or just canvas?
morning
>>54898848
I really just work on posters I find in the dumpster at the mall. I tried asking upfront for used posters from the stores, but they say they hold onto them until they get the call to throw them away which is stupid.
I just work on posters. Currently getting into graffiti writing though.
>>54897673
Looking pretty good man.
>>54897834
Neat mouse.
>>54897874
Ugly key caps as always.
>>54897924
Looks pretty comfy.
>>54898126
maybe ordering parts for my bike.
>>54898161
comfy weeb station.
>>54898656
needs a better desk.
>>54898794
Any plans on getting a lounger?
>>54898794
also quick question what do you use the portrait monitor for?
>>54899049
I'm going to Atlanta in August. I will be able to go to Ikea and some other places.
I live in the boondocks man.
>>54899064
Not at the moment, futon pulls out in case I have a guest plus it's more seats for if people to sit on
>>54899049
thanks bro
>>54897673
Does anyone have reccomendations on office chairs under $400. I want to get something with a head rest that I can also lay down in if possible.
>>54899024
Ah. I saw the (furry) piece across the room and the spray cans and thought 1+1
Just make your are respectable and don't hit shitty targets (eg a person's home, a clean public place, etc.)
>>54899083
You need to get a fucking lounger.
>>54899115
A lounger and some wall art would make this the ideal uni setup.
>>54897673
what keyboard is that m8
>>54899099
How tall are you? I had to lurk around and finally became content with a big and tall lazy boy office chair for $200(I am 6,4").
Things like monitors, chairs, and headphones are something you need to personally test out yourself. Internet advice (especially from /g/) should be taken with a grain of salt.
>>54899166
I am ~5'12". Maybe I will go and try out some chairs somewhere.
>>54898307
Corsair lapdog.. looks interesting, how is it? nice frames.
>>54899100
I do furry and everything. I did the largest one furry because I was really eager to put it on a large scale, but found out spraypaint and painting vinyl posters is still a bit difficult to work with, especially for fine lines.
I will try to do abstracts and shit on the next posters to make my theme an ambiguous blend.
>>54899078
Sounds like a persona; issue man. But good you can have a chance to look at better desks.
>>54899084
no problem.
>>54898102
Sad doge.
>>54897673
I kinda liked it better with one screen but it's looking great no matter.
>>54898161
I also really like this one.
>>54899189
It might seem awkward, but it is well worth it. Stores put shit on display for a reason.
I bought this chair and thought since it looked nice(solely on it's looks) it would be nice. After a month I ended up hating it.
http://m.samsclub.com/ip/race-chair/prod18150116
I actually went to a local Micro Center and sat in this one and it felt much better( remember my experience is different than most and it might feel like crap to you). But for $150 I'd buy it and keep it as my alternate.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/427869/Racer_Gaming_Chair
![IMG_0402[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IffPCp0.jpg "IMG_0402[1].jpg")
>>54897673
not mine, just posting a nice bst
>>54899336
You could pay $20 for a real wooden desk that is twice the size of your current desk. Only circumstance is that it is from a thrift store(my local one has plenty of nice looking desks).
Just buy some cheap spraypaint and make the top white and the legs black just like your current desk, but that is only if you want to do that.
>>54899383
I know that monitor. I was really tempted to buy it. I hate that I can't use it for my needs, but it is still a good monitor. Might build an Arcade cabinet with one though.
>>54899447
iom actually pretty interested in it too..
>>54899072
web browsing, plus the main monitor is 1440 whil the portrait is 1080 so when side by side in landscape it looks awkward
>>54898307
This is the best I have ever seen
![snapshot_07.12_[2013.12.24_12.45.24].png](https://i.imgur.com/GQgqGDT.jpg "snapshot_07.12_[2013.12.24_12.45.24].png")
>>54899383
posting horses is illegal
>>54898102
You finally got a monitor!
Waddup?
>>54899272
Not sad old and tired.
>>54899690
TV, but yes.
>>54898013
I know I'm really late to the party, but how did you mount that AOC monitor?
I have the same one and I wanted to set it up in portrait
>>54899383
>mlp shit
Damn, these horsefuckers are rich these days
>>54899792
>>54899511
i did not notice them before, sorry, i will refrain from posting this image in the future
>>54899792
Link to where you got your headphone stand?
>>54898161
I cringe when I see these speakers so close to the wall
>>54899294
Looking pretty good man. like the plant.
>>54899694
Pretty neat set up.
>>54899792
Thats an interesting wallpaper.
>>54899824
It's handmade
>>54899857
You want me to bring them into the middle of the room for a pseudo-antechoic chamber and have all the sub bass become non-existent? I'll stick to my 'okay' room modes. The ports are about 10" from the wall at the closest point anyway, it's not terrible.
sup yo...
>>54900029
Now thats a a big case man.
>>54899935
speaking as an acoustical engineer, thats a pretty piss poor response, if you do music production you need to get your speakers to at least 85dBA+ (LAeq) at listening position to even be in relation of a reference point in mixing your songs...
>>54900039
Caselabs STH10, i like quiet so bigger = more rads = lower RPM of fans! i idle my fans at about 400RPM
>>54900047
They weren't blasting at maximum SPL.
>>54900029
I agree with: >>54900039
That case is almost as tall as your floor standing speakers.
>>54900064
I like the smaller case labs or the Ncase m1.
>>54900085
Yah it threw me off.
>>54900082
who says max SPL lol... 85dBA LAeq (average) is a reference point for mastering and listening in a studio environment.
>>54900125
Can you spot the studio environment in that photo? The room is acoustically garbage, I would say that response is pretty flat putting that into consideration. Keep in mind there's absolutely no correction going on there, I haven't EQ'd.
>>54900158
why are you doing room response measurements then lol...
>>54900110
yeahhh i need to take the wheels off ideally but i cant be bothered lol
>>54900225
To get an idea of the room modes I'm dealing with? Will you next criticize me for using 'studio monitors' to listen to music as I don't mix or master or produce anything?
>>54900245
Its like my admins case except his is two wide and that tall. H has to wheel that shit around. Its cool when the build uses all the space adequately.
>>54900269
and if you removed them from the wall you wouldn't have to deal with an axial mode direct from it. there isn't much you can do with tangential or oblique modes unless you have non parallel walls... what frequency modes are you even dealing with (i take you've calculated them?)
>>54899721
I just googled how to mount it. The first video is how I did it. It'll be hard to do in portrait though
>>54898307
holy shit this is fucking amazing
the only issue i have is how the fuq do you type and play games
it looks like you have to lean over onto that table to reach the keyboard and fuck that
>>54898546
which college yo?
that looks pretty sick
Damn I wish I could put a monitor high up like some of you do but godamn does my posture turn to shit when I look up for a long time
>>54898102
Your posters are kinda shit but I like them
>>54899294
that pole upsets me.
I love the shade of blue your paint is though
>>54898307
10/10 desu
>>54898264
Try a few out. Leap 2 and aeron are nice as well and are common on Craigslist.
>>54898307
Nah it's me this time.
>>54898615
Cozy toes are a must.
>>54899049
Motorbike? I get to work overtime this weekend. All I do is work because I'm single. Can't travel anymore because of fucked up back.
>>54901070
>>54898126
How are you so wealthy?
>>54900820
Yah you need to work on that.
>>54901070
Yah it needs front break pads and probably new forks at one point.
>>54901080
Hes not.
>>54901080
it's easy to appear wealthy by the standards of this board
>>54901107
pic unrelated
>>54901160
sure
>>54901212
thanks for confirming
>>54901212
You gotta mow that shit?
>>54901107
I enjoy that wall art alot. You do it or commission it? Also cool yard.
>>54901107
what do you have in the safe?
>>54901220
yeah
it takes a while
and that's only part of it
the front lawn is about the same size
>>54901281
i'm not an artist
>>54901285
junk
>>54901258
>>54901310
wrong reply
>>54901080
I'm an average wage slave. I just happen to be single so there's more disposable income. Plus I saved a bunch and my investments do alright sometimes.
>>54901310
You seem like you know a lot about guns. Can you recommend me something in the $200-500 range for protection use only. It would never leave the house outside of a range
>>54901492
>>54901310
Oh, and I'd prefer a pistol
>>54901492
just get a glock 17 or 19
>>54901492
get a 12 gauge. best possible option
>>54901310
Still cool shit fagget.
>>54901506
kinda dark to see anything but looks comfy.
>>54898351
Absolutely love that case. I'm gonna pick one up this summer once they release the tempered glass version.
>>54900521
>the only issue i have is how the fuq do you type and play games
He's using the Corsair Lapdog, you can move that entire platform and place it on your lap, look it up
>>54897673
>using a 79 inch linnmon tabletop without a middle support leg
I hope this guy knows that these tabletops are made out of cardboard, and that this thing is going to bow like crazy in short time
>>54898185
that nidorina
SO I think the new plan is to get a monitor riser that I can clamp a monitor arm onto to I can put my router under the riser and clear up some desk space.
Anyone have some reccomendations for one that would look alright with the desk?
>>54901981
That monitor is way too tall. Doesn't it hurt your neck?
>>54902169
No, its amazing, the ultrawide meme is infectious
>>54902169
IT IS THE BEST ORIENTATION FOR AN ULTRAWIDE.
>>54902351
Yes friend feel the superior browsing.
>>54902413
hello again fellow memer friend
>>54898307
what the fuck do you do?
better?
>>54900029
Fuck me! What are you running in your setup?
>>54902315
Lovely
>>54897673
Why is dell monitors are the sexiest monitors?
>>54902846
Idk you tell me Pajeet.
>>54900029
someone that actually has a caselabs case, an actual enthusiast, not just a memer, on /g/? My god are our standards increasing???
>>54898336
what the fuck.. that looks like a cia surveillance black site house, like where the cia is just squatting in some random middle class neighborhood
>>54897673
>>54898161
>>54902315
Inspirational. Just fantastic stations.
>>54898307
This is a very nice station, unfortunately limited only by structural design. I prefer a theater room to be a little more square, that way the surround sound is better in general. I really like your TV, the furniture, and the colors going on. Windows on computers are always kinda meh to me since it distracts from the screen a little bit, but I like that you have one of those Corsair lap things to make it all easy to use. I just use a 25 ft HDMI cable routed through my crawl space, lol.
My basement needs just a bit more work in the finishing details to make everything look great. The trim on the built-in needs to be redone. I need to build a wooden raised platform behind my first couch, carpet it, and throw another couch on it for stadium style seating. Add some more shelving on the extended counter for my Xbox One, receiver, and DVR so that shit isn't hard to reach under and behind the TV.
>>54898307
>>54903146
That battlestation is where I'll be putting the second couch.
This "theater" area is in the same room, facing the opposite wall. I've since removed the kid's shit, hid the cables through the wall.
>>54897673
Sorry bois.
You're looking at the latest tech on the market
>>54902939
>>54902600
>>54897834
>>54898102
>>54898352
>>54898326
>>54898351
>>54898358
>>54898656
>>54899294
>>54899792
>>54900820
>>54902169
Why are you wasting desk space with your computers? Who started the tower on floor is bad meme?
In the process of setting up my battlestation senpaitachi. My monitor and CPU cooler should be arriving tomorrow and my case within the next week.
Still need to get a video card and another SSD but they won't be visible members of the battlestation so they're pretty much immaterial.
I could do with a better seat as well.
>>54898336
qt cat
>>54898208
plz smash the crosley familia
>>54903178
I'm looking to buy a 5150 and 5151 combo
>>54897874
i dont think miami caps will look good on this setup (if that's what you mean when you say meme caps)
>>54897924
you might need better everything
>>54898161
9/10 without the weeb shit
>>54898269
i like this.
>>54898307
really nice gaymer room
>>54898336
>archer
nice
also cute cat
>>54898351
are those keycaps from wasd?
disgusting
other then that your setup is pretty comfy
>>54898358
pcool depression corner, what kb is that?
>>54898546
pretty nice room
>>54899049
always comfy and you know it
>>54899294
this is pretty cool. could be a lot better with matching monitors though
>>54899383
dont do that
>>54900820
looks very productive
>>54902169
nice, looks pretty clean
could get a new mousepad and a matching second monitor
>>54902600
get a usable keyboard and this will be ok
>>54903146
this is pretty much perfect 9/10
>>54903329
yea i never understood that either
rate mine please
>>54903329
I wished to place my PC on the desk for the whole life. Also I'm not wasting space, I have 2.5m desk.
Finally a cold day.
And I got leftover fries and burger ready for breakfast.
Today is a good day.
Really inspired to have an apartment like pic related some day. Preferably in Tokyo, Shanghai, Beijing, Bangkok or Hong Kong.
>>54899049
>Ugly key caps as always.
these are the best key caps
u r ugly
>>54904470
>i dont think miami caps will look good on this setup (if that's what you mean when you say meme caps)
Nah im not getting miami's. I'm thinking some Black and white, or different yellow if i can find any. Trying to find pic related but no one sells them.
>>54903329
>>Why are you wasting desk space with your computers? Who started the tower on floor is bad meme?
Do you never vacuum clean your floor? It's a fucking pain in the ass having to move your computer every time you're cleaning.
>>54904653
10 / 10
>>54901923
This isn't a Linnmonn, it's a kitchen worktop and it's a lot longer than 79inch and they definitely are not made of cardboard.
>>54905412
Why would you move your computer? The bottom fan will mean there's no dust under it anyway. Just go around it.
>>54897673
The different color tone in the center monitor is triggering me.
>>54905480
>Razer
>MLP
>shit meme
NO
My cozy corner, sorry about the shit pic.
https://www.pccasegear.com/category/558_1212/monitors/monitors-by-size-23-24/sort/1
Which do i buy? all i do is netflix and gaems and browse internet
>>54904978
Du är en fattig bög.
>>54899154
IBM Model M Industrial SSK
>>54905732
Think it's just the angle, I'm in front of it right now and it looks the same. They are all IPS though so I'm not sure if angles should make a huge impact.
>>54899383
Everything else aside, what keyboard is that?
>>54905900
I guess that is a relief. I own a Dell IPS monitor as well and it looks nice. Thinking of getting another one since it is always on sale.
What are the Dell monitors you have on the sides?
>>54906041
Dell S2740L's
>>54897673
>meme keyboard
>wireless mouse
for what pvrpose
>>54906129
Shit idk maybe because I enjoy using them both?
>>54900687
They were all free so I can't really complain.
>>54898352
comfy
>>54898611
How large is that widescreen on the right? Also what ratio?
That's a battlestation in progress. I've got a new table coming and my other two monitors are sitting in the garage because my MB doesn't have any other port. Waiting for my 1080 to arrive aswell.
I picked out some insanely cheap 1080p monitors. Problem is they're HDMI only. Will a male to male Displayport to HDMI cable from my GPU to monitors work?
>>54906265
>I picked out some insanely cheap 1080p monitors.
Please share anon and what are the specs?
>>54905412
Do you ever wipe your table? It's a fucking pain in the ass having to move your computer every time you're cleaning
>>54900039
for you
>>54906304
Samsung SD300. 22"1080p. Okay colours, no glare, 8ms response and just 90$. I went to buy a 1440p ultrawide but that monitor caught my eye. I could have easily gotten 5 of those for the price of the 1440p and I've always wanted multi-monitors so I bought them. Was using a 4K 42" TV before. No glare or lag definitely feels like an upgrade.
>>54906374
>Samsung SD300.
Wow that is decent, thanks for sharing.
>>54900039
Oh really?
And the wall's a work in progress. Looks filthy now.
Shitty Camera
>>54906619
I've spent more on my drums than I have on my station.
First post, be nice.
>>54906640
Your chair is shit.
>>54906640
You have your priorities straight it seems. Your room looks like shit but you have a Dell UltraSharp, Nexus, mechanical keyboard, hell, even a Vive.
>>54906633
OH REALLY!??
>Pointed to the wall
For shame, lad
>>54906760
It's a space issue and they sound fine.
I'm going to down size my station so I can place my drums differently and get a comfy bed.
Also I can't even see your drums.
>>54906760
fhritp
This post cost me $10.
I'm doing a new PC build based around the 1080, pretty excited. What are some actual usable (mechanical) keyboards and mice that match this glorious brushed aluminum aesthetic?
I need something to compliment the Fractal Design R5 Case in Titanium coloring (would have gone for the InWin 904 but hard to find and the 909 is really expensive for not great airflow) and the Dell S2716DG monitor I'm planning on getting.
Here's my build and I really don't like my keyboard and mouse options. Why do all high-quality peripherals suitable for games have to be marketed for xtreme gaymen and therefore look like fucking transformers?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/WhnzKZ
>>54906840
>Why do all high-quality peripherals suitable for games have to be marketed for xtreme gaymen and therefore look like fucking transformers?
manchildren
subtlety and clean looks never stood a chance against led lighting and race car chairs
>>54901923
Not a linnmon
>>54906646
New one is in the works.
>>54906742
Moving out soon so not bothered on room desu, thanks tho
>>54906640
Keyboard?
>>54906840
>>54906840
spend an absurd amount of money for everything else but not willing to shell out more money for sdd? only geting 128gb? at least get a 500 or 1tb or something. yes load times for games is pre awesome, look at the division as proof
poorfags
>>54906918
WASD tenkeyless with MX clears, selling now as I want browns and 60% layout
What happened to the shed guy? Is he ok
>>54906816
post webms
>>54906939
>TFW
>>54906931
I'm getting 250gb SSD for OS and certain games that have shit load times like XCOM2. I mostly play online games though so usually that's not an issue for me personally. I was thinking I might get another 4TB HDD and RAID0 it, but then I'd be constantly worried about a drive dying so I'm not committed. I'd at the very least need an external drive or another HDD to back up key stuff, but then again, I use dropbox for anything work-related so mostly the size is for a massive amount of torrented HD pornographies.
But then again once I begin this great porn hoarding expedition I probably won't want to ever give it up. I once lost like 500gb of obscure hentai in a truecrypt file when the HDD failed and it still hurts, especially because good torrents are so much harder to come across these days
>>54907002
I got two
>MFW :^)
>>54907029
But not for 50 €.
EVGA is best. Going to get a 1070 EVGA next week. I'll use the Titan until its sold.
>>54899792
buys a chinese midget boss chair
are you a hobit?
>>54907153
You're actually right, I'm a midget
>>54907026
>>54907026
256 is not enough anon, i have 2 500gb ssd and i'm thinking about buying a 3rd. once you get the intant load times from ssd, you'll never go back i can promise you that. plus games are anywhere between 30-50 gb now a days, 100gb so you're gonna run out fast
>>54907029
I sincerely hope you're using that for compute purposes, otherwise you bought a card that performs worse in games than a 980Ti despite costing more.
What do you guys use for a monitor stand / riser (besides books lol I don't want to do that)? Do you make one or buy one?
>>54907530
bump
>>54906903
I'm about to have a fucking aneurysm
I literally cannot find for the life of me a decent mechanical keyboard and / or mouse that has a clean, minilmalist, brushed metal aesthetic that also doesn't have 8 fucking bright red backlit logos and the word EXTREME GAMER plastered all over it
What the fuck I'm about to lose my goddamn mind why can't I just find decent looking peripherals this is why people buy apple products at least they hired a fucking designer that wasn't borne out of a vat of virgin nerd acne pus and repressed asian masculinity
>>54906801
Sorry m8, it's night here. I'm in Nepal. Let me dig up a few glamour shots I can find.
>>54907684
Look at Leopold keyboards, they mostly black but would fit nicely I believe.
>>54907530
Making one is usually fun. Could be as simple as using gorilla glue and being creative with intersting objects instead of just using pieces of wood, or you can use wood and paint it with cheap 99cent spraypaint and gets the job done.
I bet there are several guides out there for your request on Google.
>>54907694
>>54906801
Couldn't find shit.
Here's a drum cover on J00Tube, take a watch if you want.
https://youtu.be/H4EY6kl2XiI
>>54898336
CIA safehouse
>>54900029
Mother of god that is one big ass case.
>>54898940
Digging this.
>>54900029
>Its's 660$
>>54898351
Care to share the sailormoon wallpaper?
>>54907772
I have an idea, maybe use my original Xbox or just the top half of the case as a monitor stand? What does /g/ think?
How do I know if Dell 2007 1600x1200 monitors are the IPS version or not?
What should I ask the sellers?
>>54900029
Yo please tell me that is the X34. and not the xr34
>>54908368
I also have an old Xbox. For some reason it fried itself and Conqer, live and reloaded got stuck inside it.
Might do something similar.
Kinda reminded me that I actually cut the box it came out of and made a F-Zero machine out of it back in grade school.
>>54908593
Man, did you ever get the game out of it? I've open many Xbox(s), they're not that had to open all you need it a torx 20 to open the case and either a torx 10 or 15 for the screws inside.
>>54908643
I couldn't and it been sitting in the basement for the past eight years.
Luckily the guys that installed out fridge left behind a case for drill bits and need to find the Xbox.
yo
>>54908672
Ok, good luck that's a great game.
>>54908699
How's it drawing with three different monitors? The one on the right got a yellow tint to it.
>>54908713
I draw with the middle one. It's a calibrated IPS panel.
r8/ h8 my tiny station
>>54901717
Ooh that's awesome
