/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-Laptop-14-inch-screen-4GB-RAM-320GB-HDD-Core-i5-2-5ghz-USED-/152091234424?hash=item2369581078:g:G98AAOSw5L9XEB6r

cop or na? In the market for a new ThinkPad since my old x220 bit the dust.

>>54776827
I should add I have 8GB of ram and an SSD ready for it.

>>54776827
I'd go for it, that's a fair price

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I fancy that a lot of us here consider ourselves experts at assessing specs and condition from blurry ebay photos.

Anyone want to take a stab at what resolution this is? It's certainly flexview, but I'm not confident to say more than that. OS appears to be Vi$ta if you're trying to judge based on the taskbar.

>>54776827
Eh, I am nitpicking the condition.

Its Ok.

Ugly TrackPad
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/121979765156

http://www.ebay.com/itm/222123577820

>>54777147
Too damn blurry, ask for the MTM number
R60's had SXGA non IPS panels

do i need to disable computrace or the other thinkpad settings in the bios?

right now it says that computrace is enabled but isnt activated.

should i disable it or is it fine to leave it alone?

>>54777147
Comparing to my own UXGA T601F, it looks like it could be one. Good find if the seller doesn't want a million dollars for it.

>>54777200
yeah I noticed the condition of the screen is pretty bad. I'll pass on it. Is there a way to replace the trackpad? I have replacement keyboards from my x220's but no pads.

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>>54777416
Oftentimes used palmrests cost just slightly more or the same as a trackpad.
Unless the trackpad is physically broken, it has a removable sticker IIRC.

Not so sure on Ivy bridge machines and onward, i forget.

>>54777502
good to know. thanks!

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Question: I just got my X220, installing debian and I it prompted me that there's some proprietary software on my that debian can't install. What could be causing this?How do I fix it? Is it even worth fixing?

>>54778190
I would assume it's the wireless drivers. Pretty important, I'd say. Search the filename it gives you and you'll find the package you need.

>>54778253
I apologize, this is my first time ever using Linux and debian never mentioned any file name in the graphical install.


Also, does anyone here use Libreboot?

>>54778337
Ah, I never use graphical install when I have the option not to. You'll have to find out just what wireless card you've got and then try to find the corresponding wireless driver.

As for libreboot, it won't work on any Thinkpads after the X200 or T400. Blame Intel for putting botnets in their later processors.

>>54776567
Anyone try the Latitude 5470 yet?
comparing that to a T460/T460s. Like the thinkpads, but the screen on the latitude seems brighter than the T460.

So, what was the last truly great no-compromises Thinkpad?

T60 with 4:3 IPS or something IBM?

>>54778380
If Libreboot doesn't work, is it the same for coreboot?And is coreboot even free?

>>54778524
Coreboot includes proprietary blobs for hardware compatibility. Libreboot is a fully free Coreboot distribution, that simplifies instillation and strips out the blobs, the cost of that is that you can count the devices it supports on your hands.

>>54778577
So there's no possible way to liberate my BIOS?

>>54778617
Not on an X220.
Intel processors made after 2008 are irreparably compromised, there's nothing you can do about backdoors built into the CPU.
If you want a fully Free machine your option are another CPU architecture or 10 year old hardware.

>>54778380
Let's say I do know what file I needed, how do go about fixing this error at installation?

>>54778402
T601F is GOAT.
>strong Penryn CPU
>8GB RAM
>SATA II
>Advanced Dock
>1600x1200 IPS
>steel backplate keyboard
>3-5 hours of battery life
IBM's Thinkpads were great, but they're too old at this point to be good for much more than shitposting, sadly. T601F hits the best balance of specs and quality.

>>54779262

go away

>>54779287
rude

>>54777211
Odds your chinkpad is stolen, in theory you can be tracked through Conputrace, it's better to disable it

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Are lenovo mice any good?

I got a logitech g100s on sale a few months ago but the fucker died out after a month.

I just need something that won't break.

>>54779262
>Sacrificing Libreboot for an unnecessary amount of RAM.

>>54779404
>no-compromises thinkpad
>has to compromise on a usable amount of RAM for muh freedoms

>>54779481
Liberty is worth any cost.

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i was wondering which of the thinkpads by ibm is the most powerful and all around best, thinking about running linux on it because xp possibly is slower,

>>54779393
used one at school. It was a little eccentric, I didn't like it.

>>54779853

Where'd you get this picture of me?

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How much for a X250 or a T450?

If I'm going to install Linux on my X220t what should I get that's got good tablet/touch support? I've never bothered to use tablet stuff on Linux before so I don't know what the offerings there are like.

All right guys, question.
I got the option to get a X240 with a 1080p IPS display, but I think 12'' are a little small for me since I'm gonna use it on a daily basis.

The other option would be to go for a T4** with a 1600x900 TN display, but all the reviews I read suggest I'll get eye cancer when I go for this, and IPS T4** are too expensive.

Is there a T4** with an IPS panel that I'm not aware of, is the TN panel not that bad actually, or should I get the X240?

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hey /tpg/
can someone give me some run downs of less apparent pros/cons of w520 vs w530 in the long run?

specifically i wamted to know if there is significant battery life difference(and which is better) and if, in your guys' opinions, the upgrade from 2nd gen quad core i series to 3rd gen core i series is worth the big price jump. i asked in the last thread and got a little butthurt about someone telling me to get an x series but i have good reason to get a powerful 15.4" laptop. this is really just a question of if 3rd gen is worth it.

Has anyone had success with a refurbished X220 from Newegg?

>>54778714
Don't forget backdoors built into yout hard drives

>>54776827
i had 2 420s i've been looking to get rid of, i actually sold one to another board member. looks like he received it and left positive feedback too

you want the other one? same stats

>>54781276
Don't forget back doors built into your back doors.

>>54780715
>Is there a T4** with an IPS panel that I'm not aware of
A modified T420s with a 1080p IPS screen

>is the TN panel not that bad actually, or should I get the X240?
It's probably worse than what you expect it to be (it was for me). So if this is truly bothering but you don't want to pick up a screwdriver; get the X240
But if you want a better PC (assuming you're not looking for the most battery life, but purely how comfy your machine is) get the modded T420s.
The **40 series is probably the most hated one in /tpg/

>>54781288
>another board member
hey that's me! yes i got it today, quite happy. thanks again!!!!!

Hey /tpg/, first time poster here so go easy on me! I just purchased a genty used ThinkPad (X140 I think) from my college's surplus sale for $120.

What are some upgrade options I can look into to get the most out of this little thing? It has an AMD A4-5000 processor, which is probably a little crappier than what you guys are used to. It's also running Windows 7.

Thanks in advance! I'm in love with it so far, it feels really sturdy.

>>54781349
good stuff, sorry i didn't get to ship it out till end of the week

>>54781324
I'm planning to get one for University so max battery life is a point of interest.
Right now I'm using a consumer 15'' Laptop with a beautiful 1080p IPS screen, but the keyboard, build quality, touch pad and battery life sucks which is far from ideal.
Guess I'll go with the small X240 then.

>>54781370
all good, got here quick enough for me

>>54781363

I forgot to mention that it has 4GB of RAM - how much does it support in total? I can't seem to find any information online. Maybe 8GB or 16GB? That'll probably be my first upgrade.

>>54779627
Most powerful would probably be some sort of T61p frankenpad but "best" is subjective so I can't really answer that

Can X220 with i5-2520M play bluray remuxes comfortably?

>>54778190
What's that red "button" on the side?
The tip of the pen?

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>>54779540
Reminder.

>>54778190
Reminder that women are cancer, even if they appear 'nerdy'.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162082402407?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#cvip_desc
How this can be anything more than blatant e-welfare is beyond me.

>>54782813
fuck off back to 8ch

>>54778386
Latitude 5470 is a decent machine.

>>54781349
possibly. how is the condition

in market for an i7 T420.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371633080864

I have RAM, SSD, and a keyboard replacement from my x200t. Would you do it?

Question: I'm installing my network drivers on my machine and it prompted me the option to choose one of the network interfaces during the installation. One is:

 eth0:  Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Netowrk Connection 

and the other

 wlan0: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] (wireless) 

What I'm trying to accomplish is get my wireless drivers working, I/m guessing I go for the second one, but still I'll like someone else insight on this as this is my first time.

>>54783300
well, are you plugging it in to a wired network, or are you using wireless? This is just for 'where to get packages during initial installation'.

>>54783300
Nevermind, I should really trust myself.

>>54783300
eth are rj45 ethernet ports.
wlan are wireless adaptors.
That's an old standard though, the new ones are a lot more cryptic, hence why some distros stuck with the way things were.

So yes, pick the second.

Anyone knows where to buy genuine trackpoint caps for a decent price?
I bought some chinese one off of ebay, and it was so soft and flimsy that I ended up using my old beaten down trackpoint cap.

>>54783360
>>54783363
Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the help. But I don't want to sound too needy, but when configuring the network, it doesn't want to connect to anything, my passphrase is correct, but it fails connect. Could this be an issue with my router or the driver?

Anyone have some tips on setting up TLP? When I bring my T420s out of sleep the trackpad doesn't work until I do an alt-f2 and r. Only started doing this after installing TLP.

I'm thinking about getting a T520 Core i5 2520 with a 1600x900 TN display for everyday use.
Good idea or not?

>>54783854
It's a fine choice, but why settle for 1600x900 when you can have 1080p?

>>54783865
1600x900 is much cheaper plus I read a review about the 1600x900 display saying it has a very good contrast and illumination for a thinkpad TN panel.
The review didn't say anything about the 1080p display so I figured I'd just go with what I know.

Hello, I JUST got a new thinkpad X1 carbon (4th gen)

What GNU/Linux distribution would you recommend?

If you have this model, have you experienced any hardware problems?

Any general suggestions?

Thanks.

>>54783708
>Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the help. But I don't want to sound too needy, but when configuring the network, it doesn't want to connect to anything, my passphrase is correct, but it fails connect. Could this be an issue with my router or the driver?
The Intel drivers will reject connections to wireless access points with broken beacon or authentication. A ton of older access points that implemented draft standards will have this problem.

>>54784553
>broken beacon or authentication
What do you mean by this?
And is there a way to fix it?

>>54776567
Is running your fan with 3000ish rpm at all times damaging it ? (And by all time I mean as long as it's on, and if needs to exceed that speed it will, but never will fall under)

>When Mum and Dad don't give you enough cash to buy more ThinkPads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96SrWO5Na54

>>54781553
With MPC-HC or some video player using HW acceleration, yes.
CPU decoding is an easy way to drain your battery.

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i just arranged to meet a guy selling a w520 for $300.

it has:
i7-2820qm
500gb hard drive
1600x900 hd+
quadro k2000
7 hours supposedly on battery

Should i go through with it or back out now? We're arranged to meet tomorrow.

I need your help /tpg/, I want to buy a cheap ThinkPad to install a GNU/Linux distro and learn it, as my main notebook is used for work etc, but the thing is, I'm from Brazil and I have a limited amount of models to buy, basically those are all my options, also I don't want to spend more than R$500 (~$140).

http://notebooks.mercadolivre.com.br/lenovo/thinkpad/notebook-thinkpad_Desde_145_OrderId_PRICE
(please scroll a bit because the first results are HDDs)

>>54787274
That's a beast of a laptop and the $300 is appropriate, stay safe, Anon.

>>54787310
i carry a knife and my old t400 for self defense (seriously, beat my old roommate with it when he tried to steal my cash).

thanks. looking forward to the screen+performance upgrade but didn't want to take a bad deal.

>have an ideapad p500
>mouse buttons are a part of the touchpad
>can't do any precise clicking because when I do try to right click something, my finger causes the cursor to move

>>54787352
>tfw ive always wanted a bitch beating thinkpad

What thinkpad has the strongest frame?

>>54787293
Save an additional R$150 and buy a T410 with an i5

>>54787380
Probably the old IBM T4x series

>>54776567
How much are my two x60 tablet SXGA+'s each worth?

>>54787429
i'd buy one off you for about $60 if it's in good condition so i guess around $100-$120

I barely use my laptop (t61) anymore since I finished school, mostly just browsing and light programming on it on weekends. I've gotten used to faster computer and would like to upgrade. Would a x220 worth it ? Will I hate going from 14" to 12" ? I was also looking at the t440 but haven't found real good critics on it. I would want to buy something high end but I know I wont use my laptop at home or work, so its not worth.

Should I buy a T60 with T2500, 2GB DDR2 and 60GB HDD for $70?

>>54787845
I'd try to go penryn for that much, but T660 is a nice oldie and at $70, it's probably in good condition.

>>54787857
>T660
T60*

I'd like to buy a newer thinkpad, x230, t440 or t520+ and was wondering if going for the i7 is worth it or stick with usual i5 ?

>>54788065
Go with an i7 if possible but the improvement over the i5 is not huge

x230
8 giga RAM
240 gb SSD
i7 3500 something
for 555$
Keep in mind im from Europe so thinkpads cost more.

>>54788399
Not too shabby, the ones that we get for super cheap usually need SSD and RAM upgrades, but you're already set with that unless you want 16GB for some reason.

I am thinking about getting a P70 for my next workstation (I have to be on the go). Is that a good buy /tpg/????

>>54788587
Its pretty big. Why not a P50?

>>54787274
That's a badass laptop

Just make sure and do yourself a favor and get the 1080p panel after you get it, you should be able to get one for less than $100

W520s are fairly rare so its not worth waiting to find one with the FHD panel already

>>54783906
It's shit. The FHD panel is way better and not just in resolution, but in viewing angle, contrast, and color space too

Any advise on the x series? My cheap 5 year old acer literally fell apart today. Im not used to large computers.

>>54789049
X220, X230 if you don't mind the 6-row keyboard

I bought a 420 as my dedicated Linux programming box. Using Antergos with Cinnamon for the latest and greatest. Works really well

Does anyone know how to switch of the the beeping sound with the backspace when you can't go back etc.?

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I just purchased a refurbished Dell Latitude 14 Rugged for $529 which included a 3 years factory warranty that ends 05/19/2019.
Specs
i3-4030
8gbs
256 SSD
What do you guys think?

does a T420 have uefi or bios? how can i check?

>>54778190
Have you enabled contrib and nonfree repos on debian?

>>54789435
I'm still on the installation, however I do believe I already figures it out. It might just has been the wireless drivers.

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Do you gaym on your thinkpads, anons?
If yes what games did you test and how well did they run?

>>54789493
Burnout Paradise via WINE steam
Worked well and didnt cause overheating.

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>>54789493
Surprising what you can manage on a laptop Core 2 Duo when you give it a real GPU to work with.

>>54789264
It has both

>>54789511
>far cry 3
what GPU, desu?
You mean eGPU?

>>54776567
Anybody got a T460 and can say things about it?

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>>54789734
R7 240. I guess it's not exactly a "real GPU", but it's about a million times better than any of the internal options available. It's hooked up through the ThinkPad Advanced Dock.

>>54789493
How good would be a G2 I5 IGPU?

>>54789836
>g2 i5 igpu
what do you mean? hd 3000?
It's about 50% slower than hd 4000

>>54789805
Get a Radeon HD7750 1GB GDDR5, I still haven't seen anything smoke it that runs off the PCIE slot, I believe HIS made a low profile one to fit in your advanced dock.

>>54789942
It's 55W though, the dock can only do up to 50. And I use VGA for my monitor, I've looked at 7750s and most of them don't have VGA from what I've seen.

>>54789974
It wont max it out, trust me, the 55w is an over estimation.

This question might be stupid but whatever.

According to ThinkWiki the t420 has two pcie slots 1 Full (51mm) and 1 Half (27mm) but only the 27mm one supports an mSATA SSD, what can i use the 51mm one for?

>>54790074
The other one is generally occupied by your wireless card.

How do i ask a seller to check if the screen of the x220 is IPS or TN?

>>54790105
You can ask for the type number off the bottom fo the laptop and punch it into the specs lookup site in the OP. You're fucked if it's a CTO, though.

>>54790149
I see, thanks.

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>>54789996
It's tempting, am I right in thinking that this DVI port is the type that can be adapted to VGA? I know there's different kinds and I know my R7 240 has the kind that can't be adapted, because I had to cut away part of the bracket so my VGA cable would fit and I wouldn't have bothered if I could've just adapted from the DVI instead.

>>54790196
Its DVI-I so yea.
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/221/~/what-is-the-difference-between-dvi-i-and-dvi-d%3F

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>>54790196
Yes is can be adapted to VGA, I've got it on my Optiplex.

Is it possible to have egpu setup with a thinkpoad T420 without a PSu just a videocardcooler whatever you niggas call them

>>54790256
No, you need a PSU even for low-end cards. ExpressCard doesn't even provide enough power for some USB 3.0 cards, there's no way it could power a desktop GPU.

>>54790307
Oh alrightthanks. I was just thinking of a lower grade one with self cooling

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>>54790239
>>54790245
Cool, there's just one last thing on my mind then. How tall is the cooler? I can't find any good side shots of the card that would show how tall the cooler stands. The cooler on my 240 just barely fit in the dock, so it's the real limiting factor moreso than the power draw or card length.

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>>54790351
Here's how tall it is in my case, might want to go for the HIS version since it's meant to be low profile.

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Hi /tpg/, I somehow cracked the plastic above the expresscard slot on my X220. I'm likely going to super glue it back, but do you think it would be worthwhile to buy a bezel replacement?

Pic related

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post your comfy setups

>>54791329
I would do it simply because I can't stand broken palmwrests and the like but it's not going to harm your computer

>>54791329
It's a very common issue on the X220. Nothing to be concerned about. I'd only bother fixing it if you're insecure about using broken-looking stuff. I see damage like that as battle scars, personally. It's nice knowing my laptop has been through hell and lived to tell the tale, it wasn't just some pussy that sat in a clean, safe office all its life. Feels good to give it a comfortable life now, knowing it suffered in the past.

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>>54791963
>Docked T420 Master Race

HAVENT YOU HEARD THE NEWS

THINKPAD 13 IS THE NEW X220

>>54792094
No, the 13 is good but it's lacking in the build quality compared to a X220 and since it has the newer keyboard you might as well get an X230

I will suck rancid dick for the T430/T420 non -s IPS mod kit to be available.

I am moving to Ireland next year and wanting to take my ThinkPad with me. At the moment it has the Alienware screen but I would really prefer a glossy (wait for it) FHD IPS screen to continue with my graphic design. Current setup just isnt good enough and I need to use an external monitor.

Anyone here bought kits from RMSMajestic? I have faith they will release a kit for T430 and T420 models, I'm curious in the meantime how the overall experience was.

>>54789493
It runs Doom, what more do you need?

>>54789062
You can put the X220 keyboard into an X230 now thanks to a BIOS flash

>>54792316
Yes but some keys don't work and it takes some work to install the keyboard itself

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>>54792304
Do you reckon a 701c could run Doom?

>>54792473
Yes, but you would probably have to decrease the screen size

>>54792473
>there's one on ebay right now for a little over $150
I would snipe it, but I don't think I would use it and I have no friends to show off the butterfly keyboard to.

>>54792360
even after flashing the modded EC?

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Did I do good boys?

>>54792011
I am you.

>>54792074
what screen resolution?
I'm about to receive a T460, already have a dock, will order two giant monitors for it. Well, 24" probably.

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how would one going about fixing something like this, but if chunks are actually missing?

im seeing some good deals on cracked thinkpads; are they a bitch to fix or should i take the deal

>>54787496
>$60
Yeah fukn right I want at least $170, SXGA+ has the 1400x1050 screen res, worth more than the standard x60

goddam these new captchas, fucking ridiculous

Bought an X220T with a used battery and new one (both hold charge for 3+ hours no problem). Came upgraded to 8 GB of ram, 250 GB HDD

How'd I do?

>>54794285
if you are missing chunks, the only way to it right is to replace the part.

If you just want to make it pretty, use body filler, sand, and paint.

>>54794691
Depends entirely on how much you paid for it

>>54794285
New palmrest. Quite easy to replace, it's just that you'll have to buy it

need to replace my X200. two options on CL, both $140

T410
> i7 620
> NVIDIA 256MB
> possibly 8GB RAM
> 1440x900 display
> 250 GB HDD

X220
> i5 2540
> 120 GB SSD
but
> 4 GB RAM
> shitty 1366x768 display

Are either of them worth the 140$?
I like the smaller size and SSD and the newer i5 benchmarks a good 50% better than the older i7, but.... DVD drive? nicer display? more RAM? Either way guess they would both be a step up from the X200.

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>>54789493

Outrun 2006 Coast 2 Coast runs well on my T400 with a Mobility Radeon HD 3470

I was playing the original Tomb Raider but keyboard rollover means you can't run, jump, and turn at the same time so I shelved it.

Other than that I have Baldur's Gate installed, some DOS era platformers like Duke Nukem and BioMenace, and also Half Life 2 for shits because I wanted to see how well it would run (surprisingly well, 40-60fps in most areas on high at 1280x800).

why does /g/ like these memebooks so much

t440s > x220

>>54795134
$140 isn't too bad for either. But the graphics card or "i7" in the T410 isn't worth talking about
And afaik the NVS 3100m is slow enough that the HD3000 is actually competitive with it

Also, better battery life in the X220. If you're really lucky, it might be an IPS panel. And besides, you can always buy a stick of RAM yourself. It's literally 2 screws to open a door and stick it in

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>>54795261

Things are changing now with Lenovo, but for the most part /g/ loves dankpads because:

> Solid build quality
> Excellent keyboards
> All components are FRUs so anything can be repaired easily
> excellent compatibility with loonix/open sores operating systems
> They have "business features" that make life easier for traveling professionals (everything from the thinklight to hardware radio switches to dual screens to liquid ducting in the keyboard to prevent damage from spills to tons of external ports) as opposed to the shitbox consumer focus 99% of laptop manufacturers have now
> They will literally last forever if you're not a retard
> Corporations buy a shit ton of them to assign to their employees and then resell them a couple years later when they upgrade so they are low cost and widely available
> IBM was god tier in the business world and the Thinkpad pioneered what a high quality business portable should be

Also because they look cool and with their focus on production instead of consumption and their rugged/dinosaur aesthetic they're sort of the "anti-macbook" (or at least they were because Lenovo shit all over everything).

>>54795345
>the NVS 3100m is slow enough that the HD3000 is actually competitive with it
this is very good to know...
i still have major reservations about downgrading to a smaller (height) screen. i sorta fell in love with the 8:5 ratio. with luck i'll go see both of them tomorrow or monday to look at physical condition and battery capacity. upon closer reading, the X220 post mentioned a "thin curved bright spot on the side of the screen, only noticeable on bright backgrounds"...

>>54795261
They're widely available for less than $200, have a nice ass keyboard, and are sturdy enough to withstand the coming nuclear fire

>>54795134
I'd wait around a bit senpai, you could probably find a t420 for about the same price

I'm looking into buying a new laptop. Which Thinkpad has the best battery life for less than $500?

>tfw got an X220 in great condition, 60GB mSATA SSD that I got for peanuts and LP125WH2 SL T1 coming in the mail today

The feel is incredible lads. Finally I'm joining the master race.

>>54793940
Dual 22" 1650x1080. The sandy bridge iGPU runs them well, but i wish i would have gotten dual 24" 1200p ones.

>>54782630
yes

Anyone here with a T520 upgraded it to the B156HW01 (1080p/TN) display? Can you comment on the quality? I've heard that the colors are actually quite good for a TN panel.

>>54795828
I got the B1 because I wasn't paying attention when I bought it. Is it worth selling off and ordering the T1, or is the difference not that noticeable? It's certainly miles better than the TN in any case.

>>54796086
Not that guy but I think in terms of visual quality there's not a huge difference (although the T series looks very slightly better due to using AH-IPS instead of E-IPS) but the ghosting will be less on the newer models if that bothers you.

If you already have a B1, probably not worth it, but for someone still yet to buy the panel it's well worth it to track a T1 down.

Hello fellow freedomers.

I have a chance to buy used 3yo T420 for $240. With 12mo warranty.
Is it worth it?
When i see $120 deals on ebay i doubt it..
However considering shpping and complete lack of warranty...
I'm, confused.
Also, apart from keyboard, they are in almost mint condition.

>>54796138
If having a mint thinkpad is important to you, there is nothing wrong with spending a little extra for a good condition machine.

>>54796135
My panel only really ghosts noticeably if I leave it on a white image for long periods of time, so it doesn't bother me too much. If the T1 doesn't ghost at all though, I'm pretty interested.

>>54796223
T1 ghosts. I think the T1/T2 are actually older than the B series, so they might ghost more. The B3 I believe is the least ghosting one.

>>54796245
Thanks Anon.

>54796065
It's one of the best TN panels out there.
Still not IPS, though. But unlike T420's panel it's definitely serviceable.

>>54796309
Cool, just got one more question; is "B156HW01 V.7" compatible with the T520, or do I need to get a V.4 revision?

>>54795055
>>54794691
Crappie forgot to say I paid $220

>>54793463
Yes, some keys need to be remapped and the spacebar combinations don't work (I think there was some problem with the caps lock LED as well). But if that's not a problem then I would definitely recommend getting a X230 and upgrading the keyboard

>>54791329

First try supergluing it. You should line the inner part of the plastic on both sides then scrape outwards so that there's only a very tiny amount of glue on the outside portion of the cracked "wall". This way you don't get any unsightly oozing of glue. Also pin a set of heavy duty encyclopedias next to it and on top of it to lock it in for a good 24 hours.

Should be fine. Less is more.

hi guys im looking for a lenovo notebook with a stylus (something like the x61) that would fit today's needs, but also very cheap at the same time!
i want to do the following on the notebook:
-Photoshop
-Drawing
-Browsing the internet (emails, yt)
-No gaming and such, that requires extreme hardware!

What do you suggest? What should i get?

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>>54791963
Very comfy.

>>54789241
Noice

Post impressions when you're ready.

>>54797263
how is wikipedia gonna help? do you mean an encarta disc?

Which would you reccomend, t410 or t420?

$300 for a refurbished x250, worth or not?

>>54797711
T420, the sandy bridge is when the core i cpus started becoming better than core 2 while using the same or less power.

>>54797932
Im sold, thank you

>>54795528
don't listen to this cuck.
NVS 3100m handles bf3 at 30-40fps. HD3000 has problems even with cs:go.

>>54794651
The X60 itself isn't worth a ton, the screen brancd new from china goes for $90 right now.

>>54799212
[I mean, if it's pristine and has a like new battery, then maybe you'd find someone to pay that. I've been buying lots of x60 and x61 tablets for parts off eBay for $10-$20 each]

>>54789511
Hey can you give me an idea of how well the cpu copes with these games? i have a t400 I intend on using with a p9500. What games have you come across it can't run?

What SATA version does the Thinkpad X201t have?

>>54795800
Can't wait for my X200 to start working again (if it ever does)... I'm reduced to either using a netbook or moving my home server box to a desk-like location and using that for not server things. I think I'm leaning towards the T410 just for the large 8:5 screen and DVD drive. Haven't had a computer with an optical drive in almost 4 years...

>>54799361
The Source games listed all run beautifully, as does DMC4. Not much of a surprise there. Legend of Grimrock 2 chokes like a bitch at the forest, but it's fine when you get indoors. Skyrim probably wouldn't handle ten million mods too well, but I haven't bothered much with it so I can't say for sure. The Serious Sam games run really well, 3 is particularly impressive with how good it looks while maintaining a smooth framerate.

Among games not listed that I've tried, Metal Gear Rising is completely unplayable no matter how low you reduce settings or resolution. Shadow Warrior 2013 runs nicely right up until you kill something, at which point the dismemberment system cuts the framerate into pieces. Core 2 Duo is also not very good at handling recording. Using dxtory, even recording at 25% resolution can't maintain a stable 75 FPS in a game as undemanding as Doom.

Your P9500 is a little better than my T9300, so you might get slightly better results than I do, but I'm thinking a lot of the problems are due to the games in question utilizing multithreading and expecting to have more than two threads to work with.

>>54795134
Third option came up:
> T420, i5 gen 2, 2.5 GHz, 320 GB Hard Drive, 7200 RPM, 3.0 GB/s, 2 GB memory, DVD writer - $180
I don't like that this guy is selling them with minimum RAM and then offering extra RAM as an upsell.

I am in the market for a modern laptop. Money isn't really an issue, but I'd like to not drain my checking account where I don't need to (<$800 would be nice).

Ideally a workstation/business class laptop. I'm not sure where to start looking though. I already have an x220 but it's simply isn't powerful enough for my needs. I love my x220 for being so easy to take apart and upgrade RAM, HDD, etc. and all the BIOS settings. So I'm strongly considering getting a more recent thinkpad, but I know there is some controversy among /g/entoomen about the most recent batch of thinkpads, and I've also heard good things about chromebook and hp elitebooks.

The laptop NEEDS to still be available for purchase as new by the vendor (no third party refurbished or hand-me-down from ebay). It NEEDS to have at least 1080p res. I NEED to be able to watch twitch streams and youtube videos and netflix without scalding hot air being blown across my balls. And I would LIKE for it to have the old school keyboard, not chiclet, but that's something I'm willing to compromise on.

What do, /tpg/?

>>54800910
hit up the epp nigga

>>54800910
How is it not powerful enough? The X260 is the first one to really surpass it totally in terms of performance. Perhaps consider that, or a P50, or P70.

How many external monitors can an X220 support?

What if I use a docking station?

>>54801115
2. Two.

>>54801129
I'm fairly sure it only has one DisplayPort. I assume the second display would be connected over VGA?

I'm not wild about VGA, but I could make do.

>>54801178
Yeah. the ultrabase has the same ports. IIRC you can mod a model 4337 dock to fit the x220 and it has dvi and DP.

What is the comfiest Thinkpad for browsing /g/ while laying down in bed after coming home from work or really early in the morning while drinking coffee?

I've never owned a Thinkpad before and I want one because I'm tired of my old shitty HP laptop.

>>54801281
You'll definitely want an IPS display. The TN is bearable on a desk, but not in bed.

>>54801281
Any of the X series really.

>>54801281
T60 is the comfiest.

>>54801305
Which Thinkpads have an IPS panel?

>>54801310
Any specific models?

>>54801400
X220 with an IPS panel, the i7 2640M, 16GB RAM, ~150 GB mSATA SSD + 500GB regular HDD is what I currently use.

>>54801400
If you want to keep warm in bed then get what >>54801440 has. The i7 will keep you nice and toasty.

Or you could just be smart and get an i5 version.

>>54801440
How big of a difference is the i5 model to the i7 model?

What differences does the IPS model have when compared to the non-IPS one?

What operating system do you run?

Thank you in advance. :)

>>54801490
My system actually stays cooler than my buddies i5, but I recently replaced my cooler.

>>54801494
The CPU difference is not massive, I just wanted the fastest option. The non IPS screen is total shit.
I run Linux.

>>54801400
The X220 can have an IPS panel. Not all X220s have IPS displays, though, so you'll need to make sure you get the right one.

Other than that I can't say. Look through the Thinkwiki.

The X220 is a great machine in general, so it would be a fine choice.

>>54801528
What temps?

>>54801494
You really do need an IPS, if it doesn't come with one they're not pricey and takes a couple of minutes to replace. i absolutely love my X220 since i replaced it (I did before as well, but yeah..)

>>54801561
45 C under average load, 75-80 under full, cools back down to 45-50 in about half a minute once the load is lifted.

>>54801574
Oh, that's pretty much exactly like my i5, I'll just shut up now then.

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What price should I be looking to pay for a X220T? Some guy in my area is selling his on craigslist for $300, is this a good deal? pic related, come with a chipped left palmrest edge

>>54801687
For $300 you can get one in better condition from ebay.

>>54800911
I don't know what that means.
>>54800954
The x220 is not powerful enough because x220's intel hd3000 iGPU cannot decode hd video without simultaneously blasting my crotch with scalding hot air. It also doesn't help that its resolution isn't so great.

I'm not knocking the x220 I'm just in need of something more powerful

>>54801687
Palmrests are cheap and easy to replace. Don't let that bother you.

$300 seems a bit steep. What are the specs?

>>54800910
You might not need to ditch your X220.

The heat issue is not typical. I watch HD video all day long with no heat problem. You might be able to fix it. Some tips:
>Check that your BIOS is properly configured. In the config -> power menu, you should have "CPU Power Management" and "Intel Speedstep Technology" turned on. Tweak the other settings if you wish.
>Clean your fans and consider applying new thermal paste to your CPU.
>Check what version of the BIOS you are using. Some old versions have trouble with overheating. Consider upgrading to a newer version, but be warned that if you fuck up you'll have a brick.

What do you mean by "not powerful enough?" What problems do you have, and what specs do you have?

It is POSSIBLE to upgrade the display to 1080p, but it's a huge hassle.

>>54801812
>without simultaneously blasting my crotch with scalding hot air
That's really not typical. The CPU is certainly powerful enough to decode video and I've never had that problem. It sounds like something else.

You should really troubleshoot the heat issue before replacing the machine.

>>54802029
>>54802052
Again, I really respect the x220 and I understand why /g/entoomen adore it. It's a really, really sweet laptop. And I never had issues if I used VLC to play HD video, but when I put on netflix over chrome, when I run a GBA emulator, I get insane amounts of heat. And even if it was somehow magically resolved, honestly the resolution still bothers me.

I think I will consider the x260 like >>54800954 suggested

>>54801775
>For $300 you can get one in better condition from ebay.
link? all the ones I am looking at look like dogshit

>>54801816
>What are the specs?
here is the ad
300 cash.

Selling a fairly rare to find Thinkpad X220T (tablet) version with IPS lcd and i7 processor. In Overall Good condition. one real small minor chip in left palmrest edge. Please read the ad for full details; I will do my best to answer any questions you have as well. Please no low ballers..

Specs:

* i7-2640M (2.8GHz Dual core) Turbo up to 3.5 ghz
* 8 Gb DDR3 ram @ 1600s
*128 gb ssd, Micron C400. Fast Drive!
*Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. Genuine COA
** 12.5" 1366x 768 dpi IPS lcd. 2 pt Touchscreen PLUS ability to write on-screen with digital stylus pen (included)** IPS display is such a beauty to have and costs more.
*Intel 6205 abgn WLAN WiFi
* Fingerprint Reader for security
* Bluetooth 3.0
* 2 USB 2.0 ports, VGA, Display Port, Ethernet (RJ-45)

Great condition Battery is included, with original 65w lenovo charger. Unit works 100% as it should! Selling this for $300 cash.


Lenovo Thinkpad X220 Tablet i7 128gb ssd 8gb IPS win 7

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>>54802179
Widescreen T60p

Good shit, but it's no Flexview.

>>54779404
>Implying I don't use X200 with Libreboot and 8GB RAM.

Bought a t450s 1080p IPS 8GB off ebay for $600.
Loving it so far.

>>54802867
Noice.

i7 4GB X201 Tablet for £150?
Bit cheaper than what the guide says.
It come with a charger, battery and HDD.
Not sure about stylus so I've messaged the seller

>>54802299
You guessed it
Nice douple-face doubles

>>54802893
Great deal.

Is there a recommended website/seller to get refurbished x220's from?

>>54776567
WHy does my t420 backlight turn off when i plug in the charger?

>>54782813
holy kek some save this shit to post when ever some post the trap of lainchan

>>54803621
turning off or just to the lowest brightness setting

if its turning off, you won't be able to see anything unless you shine a bright light on it

Dell Latitude D430 user here. Best laptop I've ever had

>>54803621
Just change it in your power settings..

Anyone ever have a problem with the oem version of windows 7 freezing after logging in? I'm on an x220.

Want a decently powerful laptop for uni, can get a decent deal on a t450s <£500, should i go for it?

>>54803798
Get a specced out T530, and spend the rest of your pounds on weed.

>>54803790
Sorry, I don't use windows on mine.

How big are T series thinkpads? Can I take one into class with me for college? Or would it be a pizza box sized monstrosity?

>>54800294
Okay that's pretty cool. Do you have any idea how well Dark Souls runs? I'm not looking to play AAA games but it'd be nice to play everything else.

>>54803931
Look into the X series for portability.

>>54804269
I tried Dark Souls and it wasn't pretty, but I didn't use dsfix or anything so I don't know how it might run with those things. Worth a try, it wasn't totally unplayable, just far from comfortable.

So my current laptop looks to be kicking the bucket soon, and I'm interested in a x220 as replacement. I have a couple of questions if anyone has a moment:

Is getting a cheaper model then adding an msata drive for the OS, alongside whatever hdd is in there the best way to go about it? I might be interested in upgrading the screen to the IPS one, and upgrading to 8 or 16gb ram too. Are these reasonable upgrades worth doing for a beginner? Anything else I should be looking to do?

Also, is it at all worth looking for a newer model with a newer gen (or i7) processor? Or will the difference be marginal, compared to the shit keyboard? My current laptop has a 2nd gen i5, but I'm hoping increased ram and and an ssd will be a significant improvement in performance?

Having to wait for your thinkpad to arrive in the mail is suffering

Is it worth it to get a T420p 900p over the x220 if all im going to use the laptop for would be for internet browsing, netbeans and as a MS office machine for college?

>>54804916
Personally, I have one with these specs: >>54801440

I've found it quite pleasant.

>>54803729
completely off,lowest is workable

>>54803771
what setting would that be in linux.....

I just got a x61t and comparing it to the x220t, lelnovo wtf, x61t is so fucking solid it makes my dick the same.

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Anyone have any experience upgrading their wireless card? I tried earlier but I'm fitting a half size card into a full size slot without an adapter.

>>54805019
I only ordered mine less than an hour ago and I'm already going mad

I'm about to pull the trigger on a x260 w/ i7 6600U and FHD IPS 1080p for $1k USD

Am I an absolute madman? I can't resist this memorial day sale

>>54805148
>what setting would that be in linux.....
Power management. Then select the brightness you want it to have when plugged in.

Unless it's totally fucked up that is, does it work to manually adjust it back up when you've plugged it in?

>>54805153
The 61 generation really was great. Possibly the one time Lenovo made objective improvements to the line that wasn't just undoing their previous faggotry. I felt kind of bad about cannibalizing the T61 I got for my Frankenpad because it was so impressively well-built and solid-feeling.

>>54805343
>$1k USD
this is too much

>>54805022
For college you may enjoy the portability of the X220 more. also, the IPS screen is miles ahead of the TN on the T420, even if it is impaired in the resolution department.

>>54805343
I'd do it.

>>54805343
What do you need it for?
Maybe you dont need FHD and an i7.
Maybe you dont need to spend 1k$

>>54805543
I could shave off $100-$200 by downgrading the CPU. But should I?

>>54805669
Personally, I'd keep it top of the line. You'll appreciate it if you're still using it several years later.

>>54805669
I hope you went for 3 year NBD support as well.

Looking for a thinkpad that'll run autodesk programs (mainly CAD and Revit) as well as general browsing, ect.. Preferably something cheap enough off eBay. Any suggestions?

>>54805750
dell precision or hp elitebook workstations

>>54805732
What's NBD support? Why?

>>54805750
W520

>>54805763
Because something will fuck up within 3 years (all laptops do), and Lenovo's depot service fucking sucks.

3 year onsite, next business day. It's standard in Europe, but a cost option in the US.

>>54805665
I hate that on the newer X series you have to choose between unusable 1366x768 and overkill 1080p. Why can't there be a 900p option?

>>54805817
>overkill 1080p

t. low res cuck

NOBODY wants my T430!!

8gb RAM, 250gb SSD, Win7 OS. Good condition. I put that fucker up on like three different pages, plus craigslist at $275. Nothing. $210? Nothing. $170? Nothing.

Fuck!

>>54805887
I'll get it for anything you say between 250 and 170 bro, where you shipping from ?

>>54805936
Pennslyvania. I'm kind of in a crisis situation, so I really need the $250 if possible.

>>54805963
shit mang I'am all the way in Greece... the shipping will be x2 the price or something.

>>54805981
ah man. thanks anyways greek bro

>>54805760
Don't know much about Elitebooks, what dp you make of this? http://www.ebay.ie/itm/HP-EliteBook-8440p-2-4GHz-i5-4GB-RAM-250GB-Win-10-Pro-D125-D126-D131-/272253992845?hash=item3f639a3f8d:g:IHEAAOSwBw5XRaLb

Quite a few of the ones I've seen have that shitty mac knockoff keyboard, is that all newer models?

>>54806003
I'm in California and I will offer you $180 for it.

Fuck
It turned out that I could of gotten 10x Nectar points on the x201t I just bought.

I've messaged the seller asking him to cancel it and I would immediately buy another one but also said that I understood if he didn't want to cancel it.

>>54805555
What if the only x220 i can find around me only have TN screens?

>>54776567
I have T460, am I eligible to post in this thread or the only ones allowed here are 10+ year old computers?

>>54801812
>I don't know what that means.

Read up the stick senpai

>>54807193
You are allowed to fuck off to /r/thinkpad

>>54807304
What's the difference between here and there? I couldn't see any.

>>54807256
>using a discount exclusive to the workers/family of certain companies
this seems like fraud, no thanks

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Can't decide between X220 and T520 lads. I can get both for around the same price.

>X220 can be upgraded to 1366x768 IPS
>T520 can be upgraded to 1920x1080 TN

I don't know which I want more. I'm leaning toward the X220 though, because the last TN laptop I had was horrific. The black levels and contrast of TN are physically revolting.

While we're on the topic I got another question; can the X220/T520 output DTS-HD and TrueHD via the DP?

>>54782630
No, it's the ass-end. The "eraser" if you set it up as that.

>>54780299
I have xubuntu on my current x220t, and had linux mint when I got this a few months back.
Shit worked out of the box on both occasions. Touch mimicked the mouse and the pen could locate the cursor underneath without actually coming into contact with the screen. Pressure sensitivity worked in applications that supported it (krita).
Long press right click on touch didn't work.

>>54789493
cataclysm dda
dort (way old version)
duskers more recently
porn flash games
risk of rain
terrria

I don't like a lot of newer games

>>54807618

>porn flash games

why man

Dropped better guts and a better screen into a better T60 case just now. Blue screen :(

I'm too worn out to troubleshoot right now. Hopefully it's not serious.

>>54807988
You never played Meet N Fuck as a kid?

>>54808011
So, you dont know why or just blogging?

>>54808013

i have man but

why

>>54808029
Not sure why

Both individual laptops functioned fine and all the parts are compatible. The older model was much better taken care of but the newer had way better guts and LCD.

do i want an accidental damage warranty
shits kinda expensive but i can see myself dropping my laptop or spilling milk all over it in the next 3 years

>>54808078

what model?

>>54808078
Thinkpad can take a pretty heavy beating. They even have a drain system under the keyboard, so you don't have to worry about spills.

>>54808011
>better guts
GPU upgrade? I had to reinstall Windows when building my T601F because the ATI drivers didn't take kindly to being uninstalled.

>>54808162
Yeah, an everything upgrade as far as the OS is concerned, but there were issues pre-Windows. It's almost certainly drivers.

>>54808128
x260

>>54789197
bumping because i too have a t420 and would like to know this

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>>54808196
Issues before loading OS. Maybe LCD connection? These guts all worked together beautifully before swapping cases. Hm.

>>54808916
Check your cables, yeah. Make sure everything's seated properly. When I swapped the screen on my T60 I thought the screen was dead, but when I opened it up to switch it back out I noticed the RAM wasn't seated properly and that was causing the problem.

>>54808916
>Maybe LCD connection?
No. GPU.

>>54808977
That's disappointing. What would cause GPU failure in 4 hours while swapping? Do you know of anything I can check?

>>54808991
are you one of those folks who thinks ESD is a myth?

>>54809034
Naw, But it does seem like that would lead to dead components, rather than faulty ones.

>>54809074
No. ESD almost never kills things outright, it damages them.

>>54809079
Bummer. The better GPU was the main benefit of swapping.

>>54787274
7 hours battery definite lie, sorry. Other than that you got lucky m8

>>54808916
>>54808991
>>54809074
>>54809087

You could always look for something obvious/mechanical, like a small piece of metal causing a short on the board or something. But that GPU looks toast.

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>>54809206
Dudes...this is a sad day. I think I did it when putting on the fan housing. I misread the diagram and had my screw sizes swapped, leading to a gash I didn't notice at first.
Fuck.

>>54809357
F

>>54809357
That's going on the very next /g/ore thread.
No hard feelings.

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>>54809357
Well. That means if I successfully CPU swap tomorrow the only benefit I'll get for all of this is 0.17Ghz. I guess that's something. The "better" LCD is probably the same fuggin thing with a better GPU running.

Welp. I'm going to bed.

>>54809436
Absolutely. If I were in a thread starting mood I'd do it myself.

>>54809357
amazing what a couple millimetres can do
sucks

>>54809357
It's possible you just broke one of the BGA solder balls on the mem chip... A hot air bake can fix that sort of thing, though I'd use a real reflow station not an oven.

>>54809483
Hm. I've never tried anything like that. Can you give any more details? I have a precision heat gun, for what it's worth.

>>54809547
How precise is precision?

You'd need to heat the package up to 260-280C to get the solder to reflow.

>>54809607
I think that's outta my league, anon. How likely is solder the issue rather than an actual compromised memory block?

>>54809630
It's more likely the solder broke than you damaged the actual package. But both are possible.

>>54809641
Hm. I will look into this tomorrow. The X1400 is a pretty big upgrade from the X1300 and would be worth it if I didn't have to spend [more] money buying tools [than buying another board would cost].

I need to check the fittings for my heat gun, but it can get to 300C.

I assume I'd have to take everything off and shield the other components on the board from the heat?

>>54806945
>>54805963

>>54809704
>I assume I'd have to take everything off and shield the other components on the board from the heat?
you need to shield anything that might melt anyway

>>54807122
It's easy as piss to replace the panel.

>>54807433
X220 IMO.

>>54809838
How much would a IPS panel cost?

Anyone here have an x201? How is it compared to the x220? (I found an offer on Craigslist for ~$130)

>>54807433
Go with the T520, while the panel is TN it's really fucking good TN and the X220 IPS screens are a minefield. One model has white spot problems, another has ghosting issues, there's a third which I think has both problems fixed but it's really hard to come by. T520 has vastly superior cooling and upgradability, too.

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>>54809357
I'm sorry for your loss.

>>54800910
>And I would LIKE for it to have the old school keyboard, not chiclet, but that's something I'm willing to compromise on.
>>54800910
Sorry senpai, pretty much 0 laptops have the old school keyboard

Dell business laptop keyboards are the closest you'll get (not chiclet) but they're not like the old school keyboards either

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>>54809357
F

>>54802102
That is pretty well decked out. If you can't find a better deal go for it. Usually you'd find one for closer to $200 but for the laptop you're getting it'll certainly be the money's worth

>>54804764
>>54803931
X is smallest but the T4__ series is definitely small enough to not at all be a burden. I've taken my T420 to classes for years and never had a complaint. Then again that may be because the laptop I had before that was 17 inches/7 pounds...

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>>54805555
>>54805022
I'd go for the T420 personally. IDEs are awfully cramped on 1366x768. It really isn't a whole lot bigger than the X220 size-wise. You definitely won't be hurting taking it to class every day.

>>54809877
$75

>>54810724
You should specify
>windows IDEs

>>54810782
>using an IDE period on linux

If you're just gonna use vim then 1366x768 is fine.

But he specifically mentioned NetBeans. Which looks the same on Linux.