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>>54745022
Whoops! Forgot the last thread link.
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alright, retard alert, get ready.
Why do high impedance headphones exist? If its possible to make headphones that sound decent with low impedance, why make ones with like 600 fucking ohms? Especially because some headphones are offered in multiple impedance levels like DT770s. Is it an engineering thing or is it really just so you can buy $900 tube amps and grow your e-penis a little more?
>>54745177
As far as I know several high impedance headphones connected to a single system produces less heat, than a lot of low impedance headphones. So I guess it's a engineering/studio thing.
>>54745210
IIRC, one of the aspects of low imp. and high sensitivity is they tend to be very unforgiving headphones. You get fatiguing if not painful sibilance and ever artifact and mistake in mastering is glaringly obvious. High imp. headhpones are more difficult to drive but tend to be more forgiving.
FLAC Internet radio:mpv https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac
Currently playing anime music
>>54745409
>flac anime music
no matter how many bits, it's still mastered shit.
>>54745533
kek
>>54745409
how do i listen to this stream? do i need a special app?
>>54745704
Just open up your terminal and type inapt-get install mpv
>>54745721
im on windows
Requesting purchase advice.
Budget: Preferably under $130-150, but it's flexible
Location: U.S.
Source: Standard audio jack on my computer (and laptop)
Preferred type: full-sized, closed (for isolation)
Comfort level: definitely prioritizing comfort over sound quality, though obviously don't want them to sound like shit.
Preferred tonal balance: neutral
Past headphones: Razer Kraken Pro. Disliked almost everything about them. I won them in a random giveaway and use them because I don't have anything better. Hugely uncomfortable -- almost like a vice on my head. Broke quickly, sound is worse than Apple's in-ear.
I work in a semi-open environment and my applel earbuds have finally gone to shit after many years, so I am looking for something with decent sound, at a reasonable price point, to use at work.
i don't know what type, exactly, but it can't be obtrusive (so no open-eared shit), and can't make it so i have 0 idea of what is going on around me. what do?
>>54745848
Fostex T50RP Mk3
>>54745848
Shure SRH840
>>54745848
SoundMagic HP150
>>54746005
It says they're "semi-open".
What does that mean in terms of noise isolation?
I'm more worried about irritating people around me than being irritated by ambient noise.
>Budget
~$100
>Location
Canada
>Source
Galaxy S7
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
I'd prefer if they actually fit into my ears, but sound beats everything
>Preferred tonal balance
V-shaped, slightly more neutral
>Preferred music
Alt rock, progressive, pop
>Past headphones
apple earpods and some random dollar store things, they both played music so that's why I used them
>>54746065
They wont. Semi open just means that there are three small slits to release some pressure. If you don't want that get the T40RP
>>54746120
Ah. Alright. If you have the time, what are the distinguishing features that lead you to recommend that headphone?
>>54746139
Very neutral, closed, high isolation, planar magnetic, full sized, super detailed, easy to drive.
>>54746155
Nice. Thanks for the info.
>>54735043
If money is a concern you don't need a external DAC. I connected both onboard Z97M and HiFime DAC to my Violectric V100 amp and found no immediate difference.
Just stick with onboard DAC and use a 3.5mm to RCA and connect it to a external amp.
>>54745177
>Why do high impedance headphones exist?
Why not? There are multiple answers to your question.
There are antiquated standards and lazy practices in managing (high) output impedance. Making the load impedance high keeps the spectral balance consistent across a wide variety of outputs, if the load's impedance function cannot be flattened out. High Zout can be seen on many audio interfaces, HT receivers, sound cards, and so on.
Output into lower impedance loads is less linear, and more prone to pushing subpar electronics past tolerable distortion from the increased current demand.
There are many other factors that affect sensitivity besides load impedance, and only a handful of companies still make high impedance headphones; sensitive headphones well suited to portable players with very limited voltage output dominate.
>just so you can buy $900 tube amps and grow your e-penis a little more?
The tube amplifier is suited to a more limited range of loads, normally of the more high impedance variety. Designing a modern linear tube circuit is being inefficient for its own sake.
>>54745210
>several high impedance headphones connected to a single system produces less heat, than a lot of low impedance headphones
Current draw is the more pressing concern, and low impedance loads extensively wired in parallel start to look like a short. Otherwise, the change in dissipation isn't much.
>>54735043
Oh. I also tried without external amp too.
But with different results. I can hear the bass sound thin on onboard audio.
My audio chain was.
Onboard Z97M "or" HiFime 9018 Async DAC>3.5mm curly cord>Sescom switchbox>Dunu DN2000J.
And if I changed it to my Etymotic ER4S IEMs you won't even hear the difference in low frequency because lol Etymotics are not extended below in the lower sub-bass frequencies.
>>54746163
>>54746155
>easy to drive
whoa there, are you sure about that?
Be aware that soundcards probably can't power the T50s very well.
so I just got my CAL in today.
holy shit these blow me away. and I'm kind of hard to impress, I own a lot of good headphones. but just the signature and balance of these headphones for $50 is incredible. for anyone wanting a bassy/warm headphone that doesn't take it to m50 or dt770 levels for cheap, this is it. It's basically 80-90% of the way towards the best denons and the th-0xx for a fraction of the price. the sig feels like the x2 and hp50 with the difference split. it's not as detailed or refined as either of those but it gets damn close. another thing that hit me right away is the weight and unobtrusive design. these are the lightest fullsized headphone I have used. it's comfortable if only because the weight nullify head-spots and clamp. a heavier headphone with the same design would be m50 uncomfortable imo. biggest downside is the cable is fixed and split between both cups, and the pads are at the limit of fullsized, they touch your ears and are not that deep.`
>>54745736
pretty sure and player that can handle streams will be fine. vlc, mpc, mpv.
>>54747611
I love it when people pull out some figures like "90% of the way there" as if to make their subjective opinions more grounded on objective data. No dude, i get the CALs are good budget headphones but you need to be more realistic.
I'm going to buy my first pair of legitimate higher-end open headphones soon, and I think I've narrowed it down to the HD650 vs the Fidelio X2. Thoughts on the two?
For reference, I'll be using them for all genres of music, but especially bassier electronic kind of songs. And I'm planning on getting the FiiO E10K DAC/amp combo with it. Thanks for any help friends, I'm very much a newbie when it comes to any audiophile shit
>>54745848
xpt-100 unless you want to step up to msr7 or hp50
>>54745955
shallow fit IEM. hje-120k is a safe buy. that's what I use at work.
>>54747557
my mad dogs are only a bit harder to drive than my other stuff, I can still get them loud enough even on a cheap player like my PSP. on my e10 I only have to increase the volume knob by one.
>>54747656
why? I think that's fine with headphones with a very similar sig. it would be dumb to say an m50 is 50% of the way towards an ad700, but the fr of the CAL and the th-0xx and the discontinued denons is really close.
>>54747694
for bassier electronic I would get the x2. that's one of the genres that the higher end sennheisers actuall fail at. the bass just isn't there, even on the 650, the extension isn't there and the mild bass rise there is is to much towards the mids, like the 558 it just ends up sounding like a more bloated and veiled hd600. it doesn't give the kind of impact that benefits that kind of music. most open headphones don't. I like the 600 but I would get the x2 or go closed if I were you. unless you know that you don't mind your bass on the light side.
>>54747132
Thanks man
>>54747744
Thanks, that's pretty in line with what I was thinking based on my research.
In that case, do you have a recommendation between the x2 and the m-100 closed back? Leakage doesn't matter to me, so I figure I'd lean towards the x2, but is the bass so much better on the m-100? I like bass but not at the expense of other frequencies, plus the soundstage that comes with opens sounds really interesting
>>54747656
It's not that close mate. I'm very impressed by the sound signature of the CAL!s but the TH-X00 have more bass extension and their bass is really quite emphasized. Where the CAL!s bass starts to subside at around 50hz the bass on the TH-X00 doesn't roll off until at least 20Hz and even then it doesn't roll off as dramatically as the CAL!s.
The bass on the TH-X00 is at least 3db higher above the CAL's upper most. I'm not knocking down the CAL!s by any means i think they are two different presentations which you're trying to group. That being said i am really impressed by the graph and i'm wondering what the catch is. This seems unbelievable at the price they sit.
>>54747834
meant for
>>54747717
>>54747694
got my X2's yesterday. can confirm, pretty fucking fantastic bass. Been listening to deep house and some other stuff and I'm very satisfied with the base response.
Albums that you love but were recorded terribly:
The Antlers: Hospice
I thought i finally found a spotify album that made think spotify's premium streaming sounded like garbage. Nope, i have the flac version of it and it still sounds badly recorded.
>>54745409
>anime music
Regular flushing the toilet sounds better than this mastered orgasm of asian women
>>54747799
the problem I have with the m100 is the sig is just a huge bass boost, bigger than the x2, and then just a severe slope into straight up lowered/rolled off mids and highs. it favors the bass too much. the x2 is not as well extended in the bass but the hump is more reasonable, and the highs are more present, even if they are a tad uneven. it does bassy well. the m100 is a bass cannon, bad for anyone who isn't a "basshead" who only listens to bass-dominated music like some kinds of hip-hop/electronic, doom, etc. if your electronic has a mix of high and low elements, and especially if it has vocals, I would not get the m100. spend $100 more and get the th-0xx, or spend a bit less and get the hp50 which is mildly warm, both sound much better than the m100 imo.
>>54747834
>>54747834
I don't have enough time to say for sure, but I think I'm just not noticing the worse bass extension because not that much music makes use of it. like I would have to pull out stuff with artificial bass drops to make it really noticeable. plus I think the impact of them, the driving sound the hump makes covers for the lack of extension some. same way I feel about the x2.
the catch is the bass is good but not super tight and controlled. it's a tad bloated, goes a bit too much into the lower mids. the result is it seems to muffle the upper mids and highs just enough to be noticeable. but it's really a small thing and something that should be fixed with eq. I think some stiffening of the insides of the cups could help. totally a personal nitpick, some will like that. but to me it's not a very "clear" sounding headphone. hp50 is warm and really clean sounding but it's not as bassy. this has an x2-like thump to it, it honestly sounds bassier than it measures.
>>54748003
>>54747878
Thanks for all the help - I just made an impulse decision after all my review reading and got a pair of TH-X00s for electronic listening. But I just got a really well-paying tech job and tfw no gf to spend money on so I'll probably get an open pair like the X2 soon also.
>>54747694
Fidelio X2: non-existent sub-bass, exaggerated mid-bass, recessed mids, uneven treble.
HD650: dark veiled wall of sounds, it's the degenerate evolution of the slightly better and still overrated HD600.
I would choose the X2 between the two, but in the first place I would consider different headphones, which are cheaper than those two.
>>54748144
you'll like it. and it will probably fulfill your bass wants. if you were to get a second pair I would get an hd600/he400s/he400i.
>>54748205
Sounds good, I am curious what a really neutral and open sound is like for songs that are more like acoustic/orchestral
>>54748030
I think you're on the money about it not lacking bass, again you are comparing them to a headphone (TH-X00) that in many ways overemphasizes bass. The CALs have a hump mid bass hump but it's not on the level of the TH-X00. The subass might be there but it's softer and not as strong as the TH-X00. You have to listen to some electronic music to notice the difference if you don't have music that utilizes much sub bass. The TH-X00 caters specifically to bass lovers and EDM fanatics. You're right about the X2s sounding bassy, it's due to the mid bass hump they have but as you can see by the FRQ it rolls off inmidiatly after, even stronger than the CAL!s. Having a mid bass hump resonates stronger so you think there is more of it than there really is. The HP50s don't have that hump and are more linear i'm surprised you think they aren't as bassy when they clearly have the best bass extension out of all of them, might just be how linear they are. How many headphones do you own exactly?
What's a good Lambda model/system?
>>54748248
Both HD600 and HE400S/i aren't "really neutral". No headphone is neutral, what you want and you have to look for is a headphone that sounds balanced to your ears.
>>54748248
it's the mids and highs that really benefit, though the extra sense of space and the removal of that more "confined" sound of a closed headphone it everywhere. the x2 benefits from being open, but not as much as something like the hd600. the mids just become fucking delicious. in acoustic and vocal stuff it becomes really apparent and once you've heard it you just want more. it makes you notice nuance in the mids that you probably overlooked with previous headphones. but there is a downside.as much as it lends to some kinds of music other stuff sounds a bit neutered, especially stuff than relies more on bass. metal, a good amount of electronic, etc. don't sound bad but just a bit dull. this is why I switch headphones fairly often. it's not sensible to own multiple headphones but I like it.
>>54748259
yeah it's the linearity. same thing with the mad dog. it's full-bodied and has a thump to it, but not as much as stuff with a hump in the bass. not that that's a bad thing. plus just general less resonance and stiffer cups in those headphones I think.
>>54748360
> as much as it lends to some kinds of music other stuff sounds a bit neutered, especially stuff than relies more on bass. metal, a good amount of electronic, etc. don't sound bad but just a bit dull.
A really balanced and truly good headphone should make any music genre sound great.
>>54748360
> it's not sensible to own multiple headphones but I like it.
Eh, you could say the same for any hobby. If you enjoy it, then there's nothing non-sensible about it
>>54748396
I kind of agree but I've yet to hear a headphone like that. even the best stuff, and my favorite stuff has major drawbacks. and I think maybe just design limitations make it hard to make a headphone that does everything right. hd600 looses on bass. closed headphones typically handle bass better but the openness is lost. something like the x2 tries to do both but runs into it's own problems despite succeeding in a lot of ways. bass is looser, not as linear. mids are a bit recessed, highs not as even. I have yet to try top-tier stuff like the hd800, or ether, or he1000. or LCD-X. maybe that's where that level of balance is but judging on what people say those all have their problems too.
>>54748427
totally. if I had no money I could get by on an hje-120k and be damn satisfied, and that's a fucking $7 IEM. th-02, $15 and incredible. but when you get "into" headphones you want to try new thigs and get that little bit more even if it's a bad value. at least I'm not at all-out abyss placebo level.
>>54748445
Top tier headphones on the market right now are generally specialized to excel in one area rather than be good all rounders. Whether this is a limitation of engineering or a ploy to prey on 'audiophiles' because so many of them collect multiple headphones I'm not really sure.
Although, recently they're also trending toward balanced sounds, something that can be seen with headphones like the HD800S, the HE-1000 and Audeze with their Fazor add-ons. Speaking of the HE-1000, I'd say it probably best fits the bill of "a really balanced and good headphone that does everything well". Try listening to it if you ever get the chance, I really really liked it (still wouldn't ever pay $3k for it). LCD-X is not that great IMO, the LCD-3 is way better. HD800 is too brutal with recordings to enjoy.
Also try the T1 if you can. It's like a better HD600 but it can get really bright if you don't power it well.
>>54748898
edition-x looks like a more laid-back he-1000 for half the price, which puts it right into competition with the hd800 and ether.
>>54749115
except the ether and hd800 compete with (and beat) the he1k
What are the tonal balances on these headphones:
HD800
HD800S
MSR7
SE535 (advertised as v shaped)
SE846
Fidelio X2
ETHER
ETHER C
RHA MA750
DT 770 pro
DT 990 pro
DT 780 pro
SRH1540
SRH1840
Oppo PM3
Oppo PM2/1
>>54747964
The early Guns N' Roses stuff, i mean, most of the recording is good, but the drums are by far the weakest link in that particular production.
is there an IEM guide?
looking for something el-cheapho (sub-£40). don't really listen to much music on the go these days so don't want to put down another couple hundred on audio gear.
>>54750709
In the wiki
>>54750959
my bad, never scrolled to the end.
>>54748445
What >>54748898 said is true, the more expensive the headphone, the more specialized and less all-arounder it gets. Personally I find the best all-arounders to be in the sub 300$ cathegory. For how hard it is to know and experience a balanced sound, I consider a balanced headphone the headphone that lets me taste the details and timbre of each instrument in the most complex music genres (like orchestral music, some kind of jazz music and some kind of rock music.) without sacrificing frequency linearity too much. Headphones that do a good job with a complex music usually do a great job with more simple music. I found the K702 as the perfect and most balanced headphone for me, after testing different songs on different headphones and speakers (even monitor speakers) for months.
>>54750135
>What are the tonal balances on these headphones:
About 10 or so EQ filters away from where I'd like them to be. I don't get the aversion to EQ.
>HD800
Moderate V-shape. People tend to focus on the treble part of the V.
>HD800S
The same as HD 800, with a little EQ filter subtracting at 6 kHz.
>MSR7
Mildly peaky highs. Balance is fairly flat, especially for a closed headphone.
>SE535 (advertised as v shaped)
Something something lacking treble.
Shure tends to prefer bass or high frequency response, at least with their in-ears. This is an example not of boosted bass, but cutting away large chunks of the treble.
>SE846
Filters available for tuning. Always somewhat bassy, regardless of filter. Only the white filter gets near an treble response. Other filters leave it as bassy and dark.
>Fidelio X2
V-shape. Bass boost centered at 60 Hz, peaks in response in upper treble. More lows than highs here.
>ETHER
Slightly dark. Less so than the much darker T50RP mods he sells.
>ETHER C
Don't know it. Measurements put it around the ballpark of Ether.
>RHA MA750
Like most IEMs, very bass heavy once you get the seal. The upper end response is uneven and peaky, a roller coaster of I don't like it.
>DT 770 pro
>DT 990 pro
770 and 990 are both sold as V-shaped phones. Notable midbass boost. 990 is the more trebly of the two. 770 has more subbass.
>DT 780 pro
DT 880? It has some sound similarities to HD 800. Has peak further up, around 9-10 kHz.
>SRH1540
Bassy. Once you get past that, the mid and high response isn't too uneven.
>SRH1840
A very flat balance, very rare with over-ear headphones. But if you wanted this, you can just take a dollar store set of and EQ it. The linearity is very poor considering most of its price peers.
>Oppo PM3
Mildly thick, the low end and low mid are lifted by shelf EQ.
>Oppo PM2/1
PM2 and 1 pretty much the same sound, but you probably knew that already. Dark.
Unlike Audezes, these actually do have a rolled off treble response (above 10-12kHz).
>>54751283
So none of these are neutral? What are the most neutral open and closed headphones(2) and iems? >>54751121
Pointed out the K702
>>54752086
The Shure 1840 is close, and very likely the flattest headphone in current production. It just has other significant problems.
I'm out of touch with the closed headphone market, although some of the popular sets around here (MSR7, Sine, PM3) loosely approximate it. Loosely.
The traditional answer for in-ears is the Etymotic ER-4S, with a modified ER-4B being even flatter. 4B has problems with being (un)listenable if you don't swap out filters.
Etymotic is replacing the ER-4S and 4PT with some new models that have a modified response, the 4SR and 4XR respectively. 4XR adds the bass boost people seem to have wanted Ety to do for decades, 4SR is closer to the 4S with peaks shifted around.
ER-4B and the Sine have a very simple EQ filter built in to get their response, which brings me to my next point: why not just use EQ?
I'm taking the plunge this weekend but I still can't 100% decide.
I want a neutral or v-shaped sounding headphones for portable use. Something like my K550's but easier to lug around outside.
I've narrowed it down to the MSR7 and the HD25-II. The HD25 are on-ears but all the reviews seem to agree the noise cancelling is great.
Anyone got any thoughts or suggestions on which I should get?
>>54753355
>HD25-II
>noise cancelling
>>54745409
Did you stole them from old russian man?
>>54753441
That's what the reviews say famallam. If you know better I'm all ears.
>>54753474
>That's what the reviews say
Link to one of said reviews?
>>54753355
What's your commute like? The HD25 are legends in their own right but this is among professionals, broadcasters, djs and field recorders. They are incredibly isolating but this stems from the vice like grip they have against your ears to give you a seal. Of course the HD25 will best the MSR7 in isolation but at the cost of some comfort. As far as durability goes without a doubt the HD25s will outlast the MSR7 and if anything were to go wrong you can easily change the parts on the HD25.
>>54753355
Isolation ≠ Noise cancellation, although some do reffer to Isolation as "passive noise cancellation",but it isn't a very accurate term.
Other than that that, yeah, not a bad option, except perhaps for the inherent lack of comfort on on-ears.
Could I have some advice on what earphones to purchase?
I've gone through a good half dozen Sennheisers like CX 200, CX 300 and IE 4, all of them lost sound in the left ear after a time period between six months and two years, the only exception being picrelated, CX 175, those lost some frequencies in both ears. I've not had any problems with how they sounded, I think I might be secretly deaf too: most earphones I've used sound good. I'm looking for something in the range of one to two thousand roubles here in Russia, which equates to about 15-30$ or 10-20£, for reference - every pair I've bought so far has been in that price range. I'm looking for a good set of earphones to use while riding a train or walking briskly, the buttplug type seem to work best, since they offer more sound isolation than the ones that are inserted pillowy discs. I'm probably done with Sennheiser for now, but I neither Sony nor Phillips, their earphones have a certain air of phoniness about them which I just can't shake, the only other brand of audio equipment I've tried is AKG and those seemed good, but AKG is rather expensive and I've not heard of them making any earphones. Should I shed my prejudice? Are there any good time-tested earphones out there?
>>54753501
Live in a third world country so it's very noisy. I need good levels of noise reduction, and I don't mind if the headphones are uncomfortable as I only wear them for about an hour at a time. At home I got other pairs I can use.
Does the grip on the HD25 loosen overtime? I have a pair of HD202 that had a really tight grip when I bought them but after a year of constant use they loosened until I can just slide them in and feel no pressure.
>>54754020
It loosens a tiny bit. For an hour's commute it's gonna be fine. Also the profile of the hd25 is smaller than the msr7 which make them more portable. Also. The hd25 are less flashy so you won't be targeted.
>>54754103
>The hd25 are less flashy so you won't be targeted.
That's actually a very good point I never considered. In retrospect, the MSR7 look like some really premium headphones which scream MUG ME
I guess I'll go with the HD25 then.
bit of a specific request here.
in ear
must be comfortable
must be able to sleep with them in (on side without them falling out or being too uncomfortable etc)
must stay in the ear even with disturbance
for the purposes of asmr but also music
budget - £50, location UK
as for sound specifics i have little preference within reason.
I'm currently looking at the NVX XPT100s or the Brainwavz HM9s. I want something comfortable, isolating, and durable.
I was leaning towards the XPT100s but I keep hearing complaints of them breaking within a year. Has anyone had a pair for over a year of use still working?
Can someone advise me to get the hd205 ?
>>54754020
i have an Amperior and yes they lose a little clamp over time
you should also try the velour pads, they add comfort, isolation stays great tho
>Budget
770 usd (1000 cad)
>Location
canada
>Source
desktop windows pc, with schiit magni/modi 2 uber stack.
>Preferred type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
3-8 hours of usage at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
mostly neutral/accurate, but some warmth is nice.
looking for some planars in particular, heard they offered really amazing advantages.
>Preferred music
classical/orchestral/electronic/rock/jazz/blues/d&b
>Past headphones
grado sr80
sennheiser hd558
Shure SE215 or Etymotic Research HF5?
>>54756678
Why those two entirely different options? HF5 if you ask me.
>>54757111
I was looking for a IEM that was around $100 and those two were what I found out to be the best in the range.
I'm trying to decide which is best for my situation. I'll be receiving some AKG K7XX cans from the massdrop and likely a Zalman clip on mic.
I like the idea of having an all-in-one setup with the Fiio E10k, but something tells me having it all together is going to lose some quality you get with having a full setup with something like a Magni/Modi 2 setup.
I'm considering the Asus sound card since I need somewhere to plug in the microphone along with the cans, so having the cables wrap around each other and split at the end to their respective inputs is something I could live with. But, having the sound card means I'd need a something like the SMSL dac for more control/an input
>>54757138
RHA MA750
>>54755185
Don't sleep with your headphones on, you'll damage your ears.
>>54757245
You have them? Do you like them? Have they held up well to what you expected?
"""""Slightly""""" used ATH-AD2000x for $200?
Is there any risk of getting used headphones?
>>54757553
the pads being gross
if that's the case just replace them
>>54757517
Yes, yes, and yes. I don't baby my stuff so I really appreciate the stainless steel construction and 3 year warranty.
Does anyone have any opinions of the DarkVoice 336SE?
>>54753355
Uncomfortable as fuck if you have a broader head. Even after 5 years the clamp hasn't yielded.
>>54757615
This
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FUCK. I've already been charged so there's no point in backing out.
>>54757625
There's another tube amp that's half the price of Dark Voices and looks like it. I forgot the brand model.
>>54757871
What did you buy anon?
>>54757615
Does the jack get in the way? I noticed it has like a spring stress reliever that is quite big? Does it fit wonky in your pocket if plugged into your phone?
>>54757915
I have a belt holster. Never had a problem with it. Even with a wireless adapter for the gym.
>>54757912
The HE-350. I knew about the the shipping date but still. I could have bought decent alcohol with that money. This is my first MD so I didn't know when they would charge me.
>>54757625
>>54757898
>There's another tube amp that's half the price of Dark Voices and looks like it. I forgot the brand model.
I think it was this.
have any of you guys changed the earpads on the SHP9500? I'm trying to find out if there are replacement earpads that will calm down the treble of the headphones and boost up the bass.
>>54757957
Just update to Windows 10 mayne.
>>54757871
You should have known this.
Massdrop is famous for taking forever to send their shit
I've heard stories of half a year or even a year
MDR-Z7 came in. Will probably sell off the V-Moda M100 and Crossfade Wireless now. This niggabass hits hard.
>>54757957
Why the fuck is the hideous transformer outside? What does "output impedance 32-600 ohm" even mean? Literally the kind of chink shit garbage you should never buy at any price.
>>54758082
See >>54757954 I knew about the the shipping date but didn't realize when they were going to charge me.
>>54758218
holy shit these names
>>54757954
Dude i hope you like treble rape.
how sketchy is it to buy a used dac/amp? I rarely buy used stuff so I'm scared the dac/amp will be broken or something
>>54758308
I need something to balance the niqqabass in my Cloud and the FiiO E10K bass boost.
>>54758397
>using the bass boost
Treble hurts more than bass desu. You shouldn't have bought the 350s there are no legitimate reviews of them and just paid shilling. No measurements, no nothing. They aren't even limited edition.
>>54758456
It's just $100 brah. Can't expect much for that.
do you guys think upgrading from a fiio e10k to a schiit stack will make a difference for the DT880 600 ohm? I've been told they could use a better amp, not sure if that's just bs though. I found a good deal on the schiit stack used so I'm tempted to buy it.
>>54758532
plenty of better headphones for less.
>>54758682
>You shouldn't have bought the 350s there are no legitimate reviews of them and just paid shilling. No measurements, no nothing.
How would you know?
>>54757962
I read that they can be replaced. You have to rip the old ones off, and I don't think the old ones can be reinstalled after removal. It apparently gives the headphones a bit more bass/mid bass. I'd search it up, there's a video somewhere.
I need to replace the cable on my comfy grados. Where can I purchase a suitable y-cable?
Help would definitely be appreciated!
Budget- $70 max
Location- US
Source- motherboard audio jack
Preferred type of headphone- full sized
Open or closed- I prefer semi open but open work too
Comfort level- I wear glasses so I'm willing to lose audio quality for comfort
Preferred tonal balance- I really like bassy headphones with a full soundstage
Past headphones- JVC HARX900, RP-HTF600-S, and Sony MDR-V6 are the only quality pairs i have owned. The JVCS i owned two pairs of and my last pair were the 600s, both of which i really enjoyed.
>>54758940
>Source- motherboard audio jack
shameful display
>>54757957
Hmm, different tube design. I'd have to see a schematic of the board.
>Budget
$1000-1200 (I'm fine with buying shit used.)
>Location
USA
>Source
600ohm Soundcard, and a Fiio e9. Will be purchasing a better dac/amp later down the road.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Size
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy enough to wear with glasses, can take them off though and pop in my contact lenses.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Piano
Vocal
Rock
EDM
Orchestral
Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y1X9c4Bo3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-60yC5Xruc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi2uU3kTQ24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6fK9qN35zg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_7Yi7cCHx4
>Past headphones
AKG Q701
Sony MDR-V6
Fidelio X2
I want something that will wow me for $1000-1200. I enjoyed the AKG Q701s clarity, but I also really liked the bass of the Fidelio X2.
>Budget
up to $350
>Location
United States
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Anything but iems
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
Max
>Preferred tonal balance
Bright
>Preferred music
>Past headphones
Sony MDR V6, AKG 712
I need some advice getting some headphones, my Sony's are getting old and I need an upgrade. I tried some AKG's 712 for a week but I was very disappointed for 350$ the did not meet my expectations sound wise, look and comfort wise they were perfect though.
>>54759030
Whats wrong with onboard audio?
>>54759258
It's noisy as shit.
>>54745022
~80€, can stretch to 100€
smartphone (don't need remote controls)
IEM
neutral ~ slightly v shaped, not too bassy/trebly, no peaky mids or weak highs
/mu/core
Brainwavz m3, they were great apart from the weak highs and low durability
hiroshima really does like modeling for headphones
I want to replace the stock earpads on my 3 year old ath-m50's. I'm looking for some comfy earpads that won't change the sound too much; I enjoy punchy bass.
Anyone have some experience with replacement pads?
I'm thinking about either velor pads:
http://www.amazon.com/Brainwavz-Velor-Memory-Replacements-Earpads/dp/B00MFDX4YO/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
or memory foam:
http://www.amazon.com/Brainwavz-Replacement-Memory-Foam-Earpads/dp/B00X5ISRGI/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
or anything else really.
What's the best playback/music player program for PC?.
At this rate I dont care using a new one since poweramp on my phone sounds way better but I dont have enough storage for all of it.
>>54759132
You're honestly asking the wrong place if your budget really is that high. Seriously I'm not even joking. If you're going to drop that much money on a headphone, go to some stores and try out some of the top tier headphones.
Does anyone have any advice on subwoofer selection for a 2.1 system?
I am planning on getting a pair of KEF Ls50s and a Parasound Halo integrated amp for the rest of the system to hook up to my computer and other audio sources.
Budget is 600 dollars with a hard ceiling of 750.
>>54761760
Unless your room is really big, you don't need a sub.
>>54761811
Think so? The speakers cant do lows too well compared to a dedicated sub and I plan on also watching movies/playing games with my computer with them as well.
>>54761839
Typically when it comes to larger monitor speakers (i.e. woofer size), they can output more than enough bass for most small-medium sized rooms. I don't have a LS50 but I do have a HS8 which has a 8in. woofer and it's more than enough for my room which is about the size of an average American room.
You can research about this more too if you want. There's a lot of sites that go into detail about this. Subs with large monitors are typically unnecessary unless you just really want some absurd low frequency sound or have a really large room.
>>54761891
Makes sense, I was just unsure due to the movies and games over just music, which is what I have found the most information on.
For music only I wouldnt even bother truth be told as I'm not really a "basshead."
The room is 12 by 16
>>54761419
Can't. My location has nothing worth while demoing.
I've been eyeballing the HD 800s, and Audeze LCD-X's but I heard the Audeze got sum reliability issues, and poop dick supoprt. Any word anons?
>>54759132
I highly recommend the T1. It's comfortable, has a balanced sound signature, fantastic for all of your genres and is fairly cheap for a flagship. I got mine for $475 used. It's a little bit brighter than most headphones though, so don't get it if treble makes you wince.
The HD800 is a good headphone as well, but you won't be able to enjoy half of your music.
>>54762236
Their support is shit, just like Hifiman. I seriously do not understand these companies that pump out high end products and fall absolutely flat on support.
>>54762236
LCD-X is a weird headphone, it sounded to me like it was trying to keep the Audeze signature and be neutral at the same time. It's not bad but the signature was rather awkward. I like the HD800S but it's expensive as shit since it just came out. Even used ones cost 1.3k or more.
Gonna have to second this guy's rec >>54762271, also look into HE-560. Sucks you can't try them in person though.
>>54762331
I kinda like the HE-560, but jesus is it one ugly headphone.
>>54762369
Yeah looks don't bother me. I'm going to be indoors with a set of expensive cans anyways. As long as the sound, and comfort meet my standards I'm good.
So my Gaymer Siberia V2's just died (usb sound card gave up) anyways it's time for a new set of headphones anyways.
>Budget: 0-75 USD
>Location: USA
>Source: Motherboard on my Asus Q500A
>Type: Closed
>Comfort: Very important, I spend many hours arguing with autistis in mumble,
>Music: Kpop (I know, shit taste) and shitty trap
>Pasted headephones: Siberia V2's, I liked the comfort but the USB sound card felt flimsy and gave up after a year.
Thanks f a m
>
>>54762479
Meant to say type full and closed rather than open
>>54762479
I almost threw up reading your post but I did it. Just get a HyperX Cloud.
>>54762479
What a fucking loser
Just get the Hyperx cloud II
>>54762598
Done, thanks.
How much would you pay for a frequency response like this?
>>54762742
Secondly, how much would you pay for a headphone with a frequency response like this?
>>54762805
Thirdly, how much would /hpg/ pay for a headphone with this frequency response?
>>54762742
looks like punchy bass headphones
>>54762805
neutralish with shit highend
$0 for both
My jvc woodies r gud
>>54762852
I knew I should've gotten those massdrop headphones
>>54760689
nobody has my meme headphones anymore
;_;
>>54762852
One last one. How much would you pay for headphones with this frequency response?
>>54762940
yeah everyone moved on to better things.
>>54762890
which ones?
Last one for sure this time. How much would you pay for headphones with this frequency response?
>>54763034
3 dogecoins
Alright,so I just bought a pair of Sony MDR-XB950BT's and currently unimpressed.Only changes when I plug them into my computer (since I have a Sound Blaster card) it sounds better.Should I return them and use that money to buy a pair of Sennheiser Urbanite XL's? The Sony's sound too bass heavy and muddy next to my Sennheiser Momentums.Are the Urbanites better than the Sony's?
>>54758532
You can get a pair of Momentum's or Urbanites for that price.Just gotta know where to look and be open for refurbished.
"Used" MS-Pro for $200? Worth it /hpg/?
>>54763159
>niqqabass heavy closed backs
What the flying fuck?
>>54746080
Soundmagic e80
>>54763500
Look for a used HD600. I bet that's not any different than my Grado SR60.
>>54758925
Try looking for OCC cable on Aliexpress. Pic kinda related. I don't recommend it. It's a bit thin and it's for earphones and the length isn't that long.
I think it's better if you DIY and make your own cables. I don't know where you would buy them.
>>54764012
I'd like to point out the reason why I picked that cable.
$3.80 is cheap for one piece. There's no way I'd pay more for a cable if it's just a SR60.
My original cable was chewed up and the Grado isn't worth investing.
Just had the chance to audition a few headphones. These are just my impressions by ear so take it as you will. Had about ~30min with each of them.
>AK T8IE
Expected it to be bright but was surprised as it is actually warm. Really comfortable and lightweight. 3/10 not worth the pricetag but worth a listen if given the chance.
>LCD-2
Super heavy and clampy. The mids are really great but it's very treble shy. 7/10 too uncomfortable.
>EL8 Closed
Nice pads and build but has to be one of the worst sound I've ever heard from something this price. Cymbals, snare drum, brass, claps etc all sound artificial. 2/10 what the fuck was Audeze thinking.
>Ether and Ether C
Quite neutral. Very comfortable overall but I noticed the pads got a little warm. Ether C has a slightly warmer tilt. 9.5/10 really great pair of headphones.
>TH900
V-shaped. Vocals are slightly behind instruments but strangely, bass isn't overpowering in vocal-focused tracks. Can get quite sibilant. Really comfortable. 7/10 quite coloured but in an enjoyable way.
>Stax L700
Holy shit, this is definitely the best and most pleasant listening experience I've had in a headphone. They have a nice balanced signature, had very little to no sibilance and is just an overall clean sound. Very comfy, the pads are huge and has quite a bit of space in them and yet I didn't have any sealing issues. 10/10 I have no complaints.
Remember, these are just my personal impressions and may not reflect what you may think of them.
>>54762742
no thanks
>>54762805
>>54762852
I dunno, $100, if they're closed and not iems
>>54762953
$50, but I wouldn't buy them
>>54763034
tree fidy
Is Audiotrak Prodigy HD2 Advance DE enough for AKG K240 Studio?
>>54764151
What kind of place lets you audition in ears?
>Budget
$90
>Location
US
>Source
Droid Pro, Sansa clip+, laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Sound quality > all
>Preferred tonal balance
Brassy, neutral, or v-shaped
>Past headphones
Apple headphones, cheap gas station headphones, and a Sony IEM years ago.
>>54764151
no chance to try the HD800S?
>>54764607
Not too much experience with IEMs but the SE215 is great.
>>54764785
I did in a previous audition.
>>54764806
thoughts? trying to cross compare with my own experiences with what you listed above
>>54764811
Keep in mind, I auditioned them about a month or so ago but they did leave quite an impression on me.
Extremely similar to the stock HD800 with a tamed 6k peak so sibilance is greatly reduced, and it's noticeable - you can actually listen to music without dying. There was a touch increase in low end, but just a little. Vocals, female in particular, sound a little "thin" so to speak. Probably one of, if not the most comfortable headphones I've worn.
I imagine this is what a HD800 with tubes would sound like because it fits the general characteristic of bringing up the bass and lowering the treble. Not that I have any experience with tubes of any kind.
>>54764854
A tube amp wouldn't make a difference as dramatic as HD800 -> HD800S.
>>54764902
Woops meant to post this one.
>>54764902
That's actually interesting to note. I expected tubes to change a headphone's signature quite an amount.
>>54764948
It tends to be extremely exaggerated like everything else in the hobby. People out there will tell you cables are a night and day difference.
Could just be the Valhalla 2 as it's considered a 'neutral' amp but the WA22 I had a go with wasn't even close to something I would consider a significant change.
the holy trinity
treble ear rape
DFC
niggabass
>>54765754
what earphones do you use besides those three?
has anyone here used beyerdynamic's rma service united sound services?
I have to get a 3.5mm cord replaced and was going to send it off to them.
>>54765807
only use those + LG HBS-1100 for portable. still have a ton of others i don't use though.
Where should I sell my extra gear? I've got a pair of Grado 325e's and LittleDot MK1+ (with different tubes) that I'm trying to part with, since I picked up higher end gear.
>>54766028
head-fi to avoid ebay fees
craigslist if in a bigger city with lots more audiofools
ebay last resort for quick sell
how much different is hd600 to hd598
I have 598
>>54766058
Ah good idea, I'm in NYC.
>>54762302
> China companies
> expecting them to give a fuck once they have your cash
Why shouldn't I buy x2's if I predominantly listen to electronic music unamped?
$250
dubai
iphone 6
i want an earphone
tonal balance sounds nice
i onyl listen to heavy and thrash metal
Anyone know of a good DAC under $60?
>>54767920
fiio e10k
I'm having a hard time finding frequency response charts for the hifiman edition S, does anyone have one they can share?
I like they they fold, and the open/ closed thing they can do, but ok not sure if I should get the edition or the Fidelio x2.
Know this shits up the thread a bit but could use some info
Got $500 and a Schiit Magni 2.
Replacing AKG Q701s.
Like wide range of music so good mids, highs, and lows/bass.
Any ideas?
HD600 vs HD650.
who wins /g/?
>>54770423
K702
>>54770423
I went with the HD650 over the HD600. It handles more genres better.
>>54770566
Whats the hd600 good for?
how much detail resolution does the HD800s have compared to the HD600?
>>54770566
>>54770585
>>54770629
>sennheiser
into the trash it goes
>>54770852
>>54770585
The HD600 is more neutral than the 650 so I'd say it handles most genres better, but in particular it's good for rock, classical, orchestral, big band, eurobeat, weeb tunes, shit like that.
>>54770629
Far more. I don't like its sound signature, but if you're looking for detail then the HD800 has it in spades. I doubt you'll find more resolution until the $3k mark.
>>54771341
>he actually believes in the resolution meme.
>>54771341
It's just treble you idiot. Treble in spades
>>54770629
There is ooooodles of resolution. Think of the HD600 as a 640x480 jpeg and the HD800S as a 7680×4320 png. There is no match.
>>54771526
I have a different judgement.
I think HD600 is 1280x720 jpg and HD800/S as 1920x1080 jpg and KSE1500 or Stax as 4096x2160 png.
>>54771641
Nope the HD800S trump them all. You just don't have the ear capacity for it.
>>54763500
Have you owned a pair of Grados before? I think you'd need to like the way the SR60 or SR80 sounds to really love the MS Pro.
>>54771352
>>54771388
Name a more detailed headphone in the same price range then. Not like either of you have even heard the HD800 anyway.
>>54771776
If he didn't, then wouldn't he say the HD600, HD800 and Stax are all similar in resolution? The HD800 is good but Stax is more expensive and esteemed for a reasson. /hpg/ is by far one of the worst communities on this website, always so wrong yet so toxic and combative.
>>54771832
Not either of the persons you're replying to but i've tried many flagships HE1000s, Abyss, STAX SR009, and HD800S and the resolution thing is completely false. I'm not sure where you guys come up with these terms when there is nothing to apply them to.
They're good headphones but the superlatives you're using are highly exaggerated. Perhaps the audiophile bug has gotten to you.
>>54771891
I just used resolution as a synonym for detail, especially since the original post did as well.
I said "the HD800 has a lot more detail than the HD600." What about this is false or highly exaggerated? I don't get what the issue is.
>>54745022
>tfw when I just fixed my 702's
>tfw when it was the first bit of soldering I've ever done in my life
Wew, now I can sell them and soften the blow on my k712 purchase ;)
>>54771939
Detail
noun de·tail \di-ˈtāl, ˈdē-ˌtāl\
1: An audiophile's attempt at self delusion to justify expensive purchases.
Examples of detail in a sentence:
"My findings are that this 2,000 dollar multi bit DAC really does bring out the details in J. S. Bach : Concerto for Two Violins 240p youtube rip in Flac."
>>54772158
So funny! :-)
>>54772152
Wow nice :) How do you feel at spending more money for a worse headphone?
>>54772608
At least it's not HD800s level of retardedness
>spend 1300 for headphones
>have to buy 2000 dollar amp dac because HD800s are 'le picky meme'
>end up using cork board and craft felt to 'fix' them.
>still sounds like 300 dollar headphones
Audiophiles everybody.
>>54772698
>butthurt poorfag
>>54772698
Saying it's stupidly expensive is one thing, and it's true, but to say it still sounds like $300 headphones is admitting you're a hearing impaired poorfag.
>>54772710
"Mom people are making fun of what i buy with my monthly allowance! Can i get loud speakers next? These shitty headphones are cucking me from the performance i desire, anime music just doesn't sound good on these!"
>>54772794
>projecting your welfare
>>54772764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jVSKCRSYRU
>>54772820
>Zeos
congratulations on confirming hearing impairment.
>>54772864
>muh golden ears
>I have bat like hearing!
Yeah okay tyll
>>54772885
who are you quoting?
>>54772898
A deluded hearing impaired audiophile.
>>54772932
>the hearing impaired poorfag tries to call somebody else hearing impaired
how adorable
>>54772820
Does this guy specialize in budget audio gear?
How do you measure detail and resolution?
>>54773164
You count the pixels
>>54773164
What are you even talking about?
Where is IEM tier list?
>>54773279
Here. Rock Zircon Best IEM!
https://audiobudget.com/product.php
>>54773249
With all the mention of detail and resolution i want to know if anyone has measured this. I want to see what the most detailed headphones are and what would best fit my budget all things being considered.
>>54773329
You mean most neutral? Or analytical? Wtf is detail and resolution...
>>54773349
Well the guy above said that the HD800s are incredibly detailed. Almost like resolutions on a screen. Like having a more detailed image. I guess.
>>54772608
lol how does it feel to own the 702's which are less comfortable, look worse and have ZERO presence besides ear piercing highs lmao
Is there anything is the 50-100 dollar range that would be comfortable to sleep with that aren't in ear?
What kind of headphone is a Audio Technica AD1000X/AD2000X ?
>>54773367
You idiot. A headphone's resolution can't be measured like a CPU can. Even if the frequency response graph is flat as can be the headphones can be unresolving and lacking in a ton of detail. Just look at the HE400i, they're relatively flat from top to bottom and they barely have detailed when compared to the HD600s. You have to listen to hear the detail.
>>54773603
How's a HD600 compare to a HE-560?
>>54773329
>detail and resolution
That's one of those audiophile words that doesn't refer to anything or is based on a hopelessly misguided notion.
We don't measure that.
All the information in the signal is present no matter the headphone, so long as you have the frequency range. In audio, you worry about things such as noise and spurious tones.
To use the visual analogy, all headphones have the same number of pixels, but some have a problem with glow, pixel noise, and the like.
>>54773658
No contest. The HE560 are much more detailed. But not as detailed as LCD 2 or Stax. The HE560 lift that veil and bring out the nuances and give you such a clear image.
Thanks /hpg/ my DT 770s came in today, they're good
>>54773765
congrats welcome to the club
>>54773765
>dem recessed mids
>that lack of detail
>disjointed dynamics
>overly sibilant highs
>distorted unresolving bass
>sluggish speed
Why do people buy these again?
>>54773765
They're not for me but they're nice bassy headphones if that's what you're after, also they're one of the best looking+built headphones around.
>Budget
€40-100
>Location
Netherlands/Yurop
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
As small as possible, I'll be sleeping with them so they have to almost unable to be felt when lying on them
>Noise isolation
Lots
>Preferred tonal balance
not V shaped and not fatiguing
A somewhat durable cable is also a must. Suggestions?
>>54773658
HD 600 is a little better than HE-560.
Worse bass quality though.
Not expecting a reply but will shoot anyway.
Could anyone compare XB950's to some more popular/known headphones?
$250
emirates/doesn't matter much
iphone 6
i want an earphone
mostly neutral/accurate, but some warmth is nice.
i only listen to heavy and thrash metal
>>54772698
> HD800
I wasn't even thinking about that shit.
>>54773417
> less comfortable
> look worse
Talk about objectivity...
> ZERO presence
> ear piercing highs
Where are you from? Reddit? Headfi? It's very well known that K712 is a downgrade from the K702. K702 is overall more balanced and it's much cheaper.
>>54774308
it's also very well known that the K702 are a terrible headphone yet you continue shilling them
>>54774407
Ok. Nice way to change the argument.
