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Previously on: >>54734972

Welcome to /fglt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:

0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux

Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.

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https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
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https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://www.gnu.org/
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>>54743370
First for Debian a great
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first for LXQt LXDE Openbox DWM and st
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>>54743409
I optimized your wallpaper; your wallpaper is now optimized.
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>>54743370
where was this picture taken? looks like a nice forest to be in.
>>54743409
indeed
>>>/wg/6581034
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>>54743437
I love you, optimizer man. Can't wait to put those ~100 KB to good use!
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anyone got a nice arkanoid game
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>>54743500
Get fs-uae and run the classics!
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>>54743500
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>>54743370

How can I make wget go to the related page and download the fullsized pics?

https://stallman.org/photos/rms-working/
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>>54743523
no ty I just want good ol arkanoid, trying to save on useless packages

>>54743539
kbreakout
>0 upgraded, 134 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
>Need to get 75.7 MB/81.8 MB of archives.
>After this operation, 234 MB of additional disk space will be used.
>Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
uhhhh

lbreakout2 looks good, thanks
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GPU is Kepler and running on Mint Rafaela, so screen is tearing.

Is Vsync the only option?
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>>54743409
when was the breaking point where debianfaggots became as annoying (if not more) than archfags on /g/?
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>>54743588
That's because it depends on KDE
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>i need to install debian on old machine with 5400 wd green drive
>it is already more than 1 hour and about 80 to 85% completed according to how bar is filled
I'm not sure if I'm too used to ssd speeds or wd greens are just a damn garbage.
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>>54743588
why do you faggots care on packages? i have shit installed i rarely use, maybe once a year even, with shitloads of dependencies only for this one program, so?
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>>54743643
I think the greens are garbage, it took about 25min on a old PPC PowerG4 with Jessie (over the net) just a few days ago, with DE/WM packages.
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>>54743675
PowerMacG4*
Sorry.
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I can't make my mind from XFCE and MATE - I appreciate and feel more attracted to MATE, but looking at videos of people playing around wit XFCE - it looks somewhat smoother and there are some great themes anyone can install pretty easy that make it gorgeous.
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>>54743675
>PPC G4
how is it? what do you use it for? how many packages are there could i run openbox and icecat/iceweasel on a PPC g5?
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>>54743691
I use it for shittposting on /g/ behind 7 proxies.
Also I can run opebox on a ARMv4 so PPC G5? Whynot.jpg.rar
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>>54743654
there is simply no need to be upset lid
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>>54743728
I'mma de-lid you brich, now tell me a freaking answer
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>>54743723
that's awesome, gonna put this thing to use as a shitposting machine again then. the case is too sexy to not use.
is there anything to be aware of when installing distros on an apple device?
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>>54743370
>>54743370
Does stallman have internet on pic related?
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>>54743774
he draws wifi from the spirits of the woods
level 90 computer magick
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>>54743753
Just put the Ghostbusters on speed-dail,
ghost of Steve Jobs might come babble about shit from time to time.
Else it works fine.
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>>54743643
Both
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>>54743774
No, he has everything on hes drive, offline, he never actually uses internet while the computer is connected to it, he downloads everything and uses it, then when hes connected again, it uploads it.

For mail, web browsing, etc.

>>54743797
KEK
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>>54743797
Epic, now we need to build a game around RMS and computer magick
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>>54743797
:)
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>>54743370
>>54743370

I'm stuck between cinnamon and budgie please help
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>>54743687
I will speak from experience since I started my gnu/linux experience with xfce and used it exclusively for the majority of the time I've used Linux and only recently switched to mate.

Mate plays nicer as a whole. It has complete set of desktop applications, pdf reader and shiz that XFCE lacks.
It's a fork of gnome2 the moment it was discontinued so even without those few years in development by mate devs it was already a very mature desktop environment.

Both XFCE and MATE are gtk 2 (albeit mate is in the process of being ported to gtk3 to accomodate for wayland and some mate applications are already gtk3)
So the meme of "xfce has better themes" is pure myth.
They both use the same and there aren't many working GTK2/GTK3 themes to begin with. I can name like 5 of them.
Numix, Arc, Zukitwo, Radiance/Ambiance and that's fucking all.

But yes xfwm4 has better themes than metacity, I can agree on that.

But bugs are there, the development is terribly slow
>I've waited like 3 years for xfce to fix the bug where the whole desktop would freeze for a solid 20 seconds after I moved something from the ~/Desktop to the trashbin
>Thunar still struggles with icons of network shares.
>Default XFCE's archiever (xarchiever?) is absolute buggy garbage that refuses to work with half of the available archieve types AND it requires heavy fuckery to make gnome-archive (gnome3 archiver) or engrampa (mate archiver) to work with thunar's context menu
>XFCE multi monitor support is broken but just so happens to werkâ„¢ in mate.
>MATE has thumbnails for a lot of media types xfce doesn't have (webm for example) out of the box


But be free to pick your poison.

No matter which one you choose sooner or later you will find that one incredibly annoying shortcoming of it that will make you consider switching to another environment.
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>>54743687
Why not explorer.exe or WindowServer?
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>>54743550
curl -s https://stallman.org/photos/rms-working/pages/[1-146].html | sed -n 's/.*alt="\([^"].*jpg\).*/http:\/\/stallman.org\/photos\/rms-working\/\1/p' | xargs wget -nv
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>>54744082
Or just rms.sexy, but the collection there is different:

wget -e robots=off --no-check-certificate -nc -nd -nv -ERhtml -Ajpg,JPG -r rms.sexy/img/


(Get ur stallmans today!)
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>>54744140
Also reminder to
jpegoptim *
:^)
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Do you guys still hate ubuntu? Linux Mint a shit? What is the most commonly recommended OS to go balls deep in?
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>>54744224
Yes, Yes, Debian, Arch, Gentoo
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>>54744082
>1-146
>ls | wc -l
>135
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>>54743903
>So the meme of "xfce has better themes" is pure myth.

Oh I was not even aware it was a meme - it was a personal observation.

I was also aware of development being very slow and XFCE overall performing at the bottom of DE's list.

I appreciate, your time investment - I will go with MATE.
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>>54743956
Mainly because I simply can.
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>>54744396
That's great, I'm into S&M too.
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>>54743370
is there a way to watch netflix on firefox/chromium on xubuntu or do i have to use google chrome?
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>>54744376
>JPG
curl -s https://stallman.org/photos/rms-working/pages/[1-146].html | sed -n 's/.*alt="\([^"].*[jpg|JPG]\).*/http:\/\/stallman.org\/photos\/rms-working\/\1/p' | xargs wget -nv

Fixed.
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Does your terminal support true color?
Post terminal and y/n:
printf "\x1b[38;2;40;177;249mTRUECOLOR\x1b[0m\n"
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>>54744622
URxvt / n

Colors are for gays anyway.
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>will not start login manager and x unless firmware-linux-nonfree is installed
>sudo not included by default
They are indeed stable by all means, it's the same shit I've seen 6 years ago when I first tried it.
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>>54744743
>using a "freedom" distro
>clearly sees it restricts your choice of basic software
Come Son, I will guide you to the true freedom land
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>>54744768
>he thinks choosing to be a slave of some developers program that executes unknown code, forbids reading the source code and forbids sharing your changes with your best friend is freedom land
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>>54744768
>this guy again
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>>54744743
Not having sudo by default is good imo. On a day to day basis no user should need to do anything in the guts of the system
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>>54744806>
>54744815
>I have never in my life had a situation when this has happened,ever
You stallmanist drank the special koolaid to think this

Tell me ONE instance where any of these is relevent in your life.
Just ONE.
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Trying to setup a firewall since my router died. Trying to use ufw,and its erroring out with
iptables table filter does not exist


NETFILTER is hard enabled in kernel,and iptables is installed and updated
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>>54744815
>that guy getting his rocks off trolling gnufriends

fug that guy
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>>54744835
Don't you have better things to do than following this thread every single day and posting this /b/ tier trash?
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>>54744943
Dont you have better things to do then deflect when ever this question is asked?
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>>54744959
Nigger if you don't understand how software freedom works, go read a book about it or search the web like a normal person.
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>>54744972
>still deflecting
Because it has never happened in your life,when a program threatend your LIFE.
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>>54744980
see >>54744972
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>>54744924
'filter' isn't a table

for a router kind of thing you should only need the INPUT and NAT tables with prerouting and forward commands
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>>54744990
See
>>54744980
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>>54744972
https://www.gnu.org/doc/fsfs-ii-2.pdf
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>>54743635
That point has long past, my friend. But no one will notice until someone makes a few shitty comics about Debian users.
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>>54743370
While I'm not sure.
http://www.bigsurcalifornia.org/redwoods.html
If I had to guess.
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>>54744990
>still deflecting
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>>54745005
Even just using iptables its self, executing iptables -L as root shows the same error
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>>54743370
>Advanced network setup
My current setup works fine, but Id like to make it a bit more comfy.
I use a computer(Arch/headless) with two ethernet ports as a way to have my xbox on a vpn. My setup goes xbox > computer port 2 > ppp0(port one) > router/modem > internet.
The problem is services running on the actual home network like dlna, ftp, or xbox smart glass, or miracast cant actually see the xbox. I would like for everything that is connected to the computers second port to be on the same lan as the first port, but for any wan activities they would go through the ppp0 connection instead of ethernet port one.

Does anyone have any experience doing this sort of stuff? If so, can you help me out or point me in the right direction? Thanks.

Pic probably unrelated. It's netctl, and I am using ip and iptables to have the current setup work.
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I'm thinking of installing arch on my work laptop. I've been using it on my main computer for 4 months now and I haven't had a single major issue.

Is it safe to use a bleeding edge distro for work? As long as I don't run pacman -Syu during work hours is there anything that could bite me in the ass that could've been avoided using a different distro?
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>>54746058
>xbox on a vpn
what?
>networking
Might be able to do this with a bridge
If not
Heavy use of iptables.Forwarding and routing it around
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>>54746173
>what?
I hang out in the bad parts of xbox live.
>Heavy use of iptables.
that's what I'm thinking, but I don't know enough about it and just used up all of my free time screwing around with it with no results.
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>>54746122
If you need it for work,check out the mailing list for potential issues.Other wise read what packages are going to be installed.Also create snapshots so you can easily revert installs if something happens(snapper,snap-pac)
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I updated to Debian Testing and after rebooting it's just a blinking cursor

What do?
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>>54746343
what did you update?
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>>54746343
looks like apt-get broke your kernel again
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>>54746360
Went from stable to testing in sources.list then did apt-get update && ap-get upgrade

Rebooted and bam

>>54746366
How can I fix it?
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>>54746387
>>54746387
>Went from stable to testing in sources.list then did apt-get update && ap-get upgrade
And what did you update?
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>>54746394
Over 300mb of packages
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>>54746366
>It's THAT guy again
Seriously faggot. Just leave, we don't need your funny maymays.
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>>54746403
You don't know what you updated?
You deserve what you got. There's a reason it's called stable and testing.
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>>54743370
if i walked through the log to find him i'd at least punch his junk
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>>54746406
lolwut
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>>54743370
why does Dick bring his fucking laptop into the public? The other picture I saw he was at the beach. I used to bring electronics on vacation, too, when I was fucking twelve.
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>>54746574
I'm guessing he went there just to take the photo. Probably supposed to mean something, like the forest represents freedom or some such bullshit. I've seen several of him in spectacular places just like this one.
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>>54746626
Perfect use of donated funds!!!
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>go on /g/
>know absolutely nothing about computers
>see a riced debian install in a desktop thread
>slap debian on my laptop and rice it to the max
>have to look up questions i have on google every 5 minutes because i have no idea how my machine works

at least i have a sick desktop though, r-right?
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>>54746818
It gets easier the more you use it anon. I did the same thing with Arch...
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So how can I install zen/liquorix kernel in manjaro? The problem is that it is in the main arch repos but not the manjaro ones.
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M-muh freedumbs.
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>>54746964
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x220 fag here. How bad will it be if I install Debian unstable on my mememachine? How great will it be?

I'm not sure what it even means to be bleeding edge.
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>>54746838
Did you start with 0 knowledge when going with Arch? I'm tempted to try it but I don't have more than a few hours a week to do any tweaking/learning (for Arch shit specifically)
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I've been using a Chromebook with Linux running in a chroot for the last few years. It's a pain in the ass and I'm thinking of getting a new laptop for work now that the semester is ending. What are some laptops that have good Linux support?
I'm looking for something pretty cheap, It doesn't have to be all that powerful, I just use my laptop for development (text editing, compiling, debugging) and shitposting. Are Thinkpads as good as I've heard or is that a meme? Are there any better options? What do you guys use?
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>>54747075
Thinkpad
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>>54747063
I'd been using Linux regularly for about a year, so I was pretty familiar with the stuff I use every day. However, I did have to learn a lot of new stuff in order to get it installed and it proper order.
I wanted to be especially 1337 at the time, so I didn't use any helper programs or installers, which ate time and ended up being way more painful then it had to be.
Honestly, these days I'm just happy with Ubuntu or Debian, there's no reason to make things extra difficult. Any distro can basically be turned into any other distro anyway, so why make things hard.
Arch will teach you a lot though, you should try it at least once as a learning experience.
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>>54743370
I don't care about linux vs. windows, but what the fuck is Stallman doing in this pic? And who the fuck takes pictures of him programming everywhere he goes?
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>>54747141
Thanks family. I think I'll try Debian first and do Arch later for the experience. What do you recommend I start with? Testing? Stable?
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>>54747161
Either is fine really. I'd probably do stable
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>>54747143
install gentoo
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>>54747178
Already did :^)
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Hi /g/, what would be best, doing a minimal debian install or just installing gentoo?

My needs are:

1) customisability
2) stability and security
3) able to work with my hardware and software without any major issues
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>>54747362
Debian, it's very stable and secure and it works with just about any hardware. Could you elaborate on what you mean by customization?
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>>54747385
I want to be able to take out and customise every part of my OS, because I prefer using certain things over others (I prefer other runit systems over systemd). I also don't want an OS which takes up more space than needed for things I don't want.
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>>54747402
Both are can be changed up to the same degree. However, it'll take a bit of work to get rid of the bit of extra stuff that comes with a Debian install. If you're dealing with system constraints where space is an issue, I'd say go with Gentoo, otherwise Debian is great.
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>>54743370
>GNU/Linux Thread
but I'm using busybox
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>>54747362
debian testing netinstall, uncheck everything
you get a stripped down OS that werks. also very easy to upgrade to Sid from
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>>54747433
>>54747689
Ok thank you. What makes debian so attractive to me is the fact that it's focused around stability, I hate it when things break randomly mainly because I'm not that good with computers to really diagnose these problems. I want to make my os as free as possible (no systemd, no proprietary stuff except drivers) etc. Gentoo looks okay too, but idk how stable it is since it tries to be 'bleeding edge'.
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>>54747671
Get out then?
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What do you recommend for creating checksums?
md5 or sha265, 512?
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>>54748054
It doesn't really matter. Just have your checksum hosted on a separate website.
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this is really annoying how do I fix it? the cursors are only big in certain programs in gnome3
>steam
>urxvt
>chromium
to name a few
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I have a gentoo GNU/linux with apps built using GTK. I need to install Anki (which is built using Qt) and it pulls a long list of dependencies I don't really want to be in my system. What should I do? Is there is a way to install and use Anki without those nasty Qt packages?
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Any idea how do i install pam module on OS X? I want to make a login authentication with an SD card. It's easy to do on Debian but how do i do it on mac?
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>>54743370
Someone please explain pic related to me. I want to create a win10 liveusb but that warning at the end scares me and I don't understand it.
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>>54748520
>being this new
I think I fixed that with Googling back in 2005
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>>54748603
my google-fu is weak, and I'd rather make a post and hope that someone has a easy fix than spend 3 hours googling then make a post
it's something that can easily be fixed with a reinstall, but that's always annoying to do
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ok I cant fucking take it anymore.

I need to sell this MSI R7 370 or find out what Kernel/Distro?what the fuck ever that has driver support for his GPU.

Please help. I am about to shoot myself on botnet 10... I can feel the aids.

please help me out guys
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>>54748766
open drivers on anything above 4 should be okay with this, what is your issue?
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>>54748766
what I'm interpreting is that you want to switch to linux and don't know if a distro will support a R7 370
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What's the state of high PPI support on Linux? I'm thinking about getting a 15.6" laptop with a 4K display so I would be using about a 200-250% scale. How is the experience at a pixel density that high using, say, Cinnamon or KDE?
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>>54748821
Pretty great with gtk/gnome, no idea about qt.
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I installed GNU/Linux but it was just a compiler, a C library, a really crappy shell, and some bloated clones of BSD programs from the 70s. Ed didn't even have a man page for me to reference. It had a tutorial. And then someone recommended using emacs.

Can I get linux without GNU or with more than GNU? Linux is pretty useless with just GNU unless you want a less philosophically pure version of the first UNIX ever with an optional lisp machine.
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>>54748890
You can add gnome, gimp, octave, a package manager like guix or dpkg, info pages (which are better than man imo), a simple text editor like nano and maybe a few other programs.
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>>54747063

But you have enough time to waste it on here asking stupid questions.
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>>54748791
>>54748792

I used the default driver on buntu 16.04 but it fucked up shit. For some reason the r7 370 has shit driver support on the new kernel but Ill try and figgure it out.
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>>54748915
Alright, now I have some of the worst fucking software available for linux, or for anything, period.

I'm replacing this shit with zsh, clang, lldb, KDE, krita, dnf, man (which is better if you already know what your'e doing), a text editor that actually works like vim, and maybe a few other programs. A shame someone will still insist i'm still using the terrible "GNU/Linux" i'm leaving behind.
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>>54748582

Anki didn't require that many dependencies for me. Standard Qt, not any of the KDE stuff.
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>>54748939
Try a different distro, ubuntu is fucked
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>>54748950
>clang
you mean that compiler that can't even compile linux?
>zsh
You mean that hipster shell that all the macfags use with oh-my-zsh because they can't figure out how to use autocomplete in bash and change their ps1?
Also: using kde while calling anything bloated shows everybody what kind of shitty troll you are.
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>>54748632
Probably a link on the first page will have an answer, look for threads with [SOLVED].
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>>54749017
>you mean that compiler that can't even compile linux?
Not my fault linus used GNU's EEExtensions
>You mean that hipster shell that all the macfags use with oh-my-zsh because they can't figure out how to use autocomplete in bash and change their ps1?
No I mean the good shell that people with jobs use because it's the only way to get good autocompletion in five minutes without making a compromise and using fish, the actual hipster shell, with useless hipster syntax. Bash's programmable completion is primitive shit even when you configure it properly. Zsh is all around better.
>Also: using kde while calling anything bloated shows everybody what kind of shitty troll you are.
There is a time and a place for bloat. The only GNU tool that's worth a shit is grep.
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>>54749047
what does your hate come from? You sound deeply hurt about something.
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>>54749085
Richard stallman fucked my dog, diddled my 10 year old sister, and then sucked off my grandma's corpse while snorting weed.
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>>54749047

>using a shell only for autocompletion, which is 2% of its scope

What a try-hard. I bet you followed that Arch infographic.
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>>54749102
Plot twist, i bet he made that infographic and is actually shitty apps guy.
>>54749100
Kek
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>>54749102
If I had to write a script I sure as hell wouldn't use shell, but if I had to, I sure as hell wouldn't use anything but pure POSIX sh, and sure as hell wouldn't run it under anything but dash if it were to be ran on linux.
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why cant emacs handle big files? will vim handle this better?
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>>54748601
I'd recommend doing it in a VM or just following the instructions in the pic, since that should fix it.
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I accessed my DLNA server on my router with VLC from my Phone.

>Music
mp3 of various size (8 - 12 MB) - playable

>Pictures
7 KB JPG - 5-10 seconds delay, could see it properly
1.4 MB JPG - 30-60 seconds delay before it's displayed, router isn't responsive
2 MB JPG - couldn't display anything, router isn't responsive

>Videos
151 MB 480p Anime (bitrate : 866 kbps) - playable
419 MB 720p Anime (bitrate : constant 2500 kbps ) - playable
673 MB 1080p Anime (bitrate : constant 4000 kbps ) - playable
509 MB 720p Anime 10 bit - restarted my router
494 MB 1080p 3DPD (bitrate : 6000 kbps) - lagged

>Transfer speed
From computer with Windows Explorer (Direct File Copy) to USB 2.0 port with dedicated SD Card reader : 6 MiB/s
From computer with WinSCP (SCP protocol) to 100 Mbps LAN and microSD inside 3G modem : 700 KiB/s
From computer with FileZilla (FTP protocol) to 100 Mbps LAN and microSD inside 3G modem : 1.9 MiB/s

It seems the bottleneck is caused by slow CPU and small RAM.
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A week or so ago an anon posted a webm of a Linux program that was similar to Search Everything. Does anybody know what it was called or know of any Search Everything alternatives? I'm running Fedora 23.
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Hello friends and fellow GNU/Linux enthusiasts,

After reading this article: http://email.about.com/od/windowsemailclients/tp/free_email_prog.htm
titled "Top 12 Free Windows Email Programs 2016"
I noticed the wrong usage of the word "free" to mislead readers, and I took action, as shown in pic related.
Was my email good enough?
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>>54749756
There is locate, install the "mlocate" package.
It works from the CLI.
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Why does real multitasking not exist even though we have CPUs with multiple cores?
Shouldnt each core be capable of running one program thus enabling true multitasking?
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>>54749774
Says I have it installed already. How do I run it? mlocate returns bash not found.
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>>54749796
use sudo updatedb to update the database of files, then use "locate <file>" to find it. You can use wildcards or regex.
for more info,
man locate
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How do I force urxvt to use Noto Sans CJK as my default font for japanese characters?
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Was the site down or something?
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>>54749815
>Non-ASCII characters in filenames
ISHYGDDT
>>
test
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>>54749647
Yes
>>54749826
Yes
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>>54749845
>>54749826
kek
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I use the netflix program on linux and it works fine. But every time I start up the computer I get this shit. I've tried installing what ever it's bitching about but it doesn't fix it.
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>>54749815
You can use more fonts than one, just seperate then by comma in ~/.Xresources.

You can also specify a font for a codeset like
[codeset=ISO10646]x:-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-*

You could also just read the manpage.
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>>54743370
Explain me why I should use GNU/Linux without the word free.
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>>54749872
you wot m8?
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>>54749872
It's the least shit. All desktop operating systems are bad. Windows is spyware and it's older ones will upgrade to 10, OSX is on gay overpriced shiny crap, and GNU/linux is full of bugs with shitloads of pointless distros with non of them being great for desktops in any way.
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>>54748603
>being this jew
Why do you send people to jewgle.
This is a friendly thread.
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>>54749871

I'm asking because I already tried that my not-so-friendly anonymous friend.
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>>54749943
Did you update your changes using
xrdb ~/.Xresources
faggot?
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>>54749872
It respects your human rights.
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>>54749905
>GNU/linux is full of bugs
Such as?
>pointless distros
They are made for individual needs.
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>>54749958

Ehh, looks like I was typing the name of the font wrong.
It works now, thanks anon-kun.
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>>54749905
I hated that gnu/linux never gave me the "it just works" feeling. I always had to google and repair stuff. Even with a "highly supported" thinkpad.
I have windows 7 and it has everything I need, but stil I would prefer open source any day, if it has the same quality and functionality.

So, will GNU/Linux ever reach the quality and functionallity of Windows 7?
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>>54749994
Not him but there are quite a few bugs at any given time, not that a normal user would notice though.
And a lot of distros are made primarily for the individual need of the developer th have his own distro. These distros are usually not used by anyone other than themself.
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>>54750037
You never used ubuntu gnome i guess. Have you ever actually installed windows yourself?
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>>54750074
Don't talk to me please.
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>>54749994
What I have are
>no sound after resuming from suspend
The solution I found in the forums was a temporary fix and and the posts were dating back to 2012
>>54749865
This issue
>have to press an extra key after suspend because it doesn't fully wake up the system with one press

I am on Xubuntu which is one of the easiest distros to use. The problems I get don't matter because others will be having different problems of their own. Everyone who's using linux on their machine are going to say how great GNU/linux is whilst everyone else is getting bugs and detest using it.
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Anyone know how to fix the Audacity scaling? It seems to be messed up on Fedora 23 Gnome 3.18
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>>54750259
These things are distro related, not GNU/Linux related.
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what is the current state of openGL support ? How it is compared to windows and OS X ?
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>>54750290
So Xubuntu sucks then? One of the popular distros and known for being the straight forward to use? Something known for being straight forward would mean that all the other distros are even worse.
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>>54750332
It's great if you got the right hardware. It is less buggy.
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What would be good distro for me if I want to play few games?
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>>54750332
Games still run like crap. Not sure about any other implementations. Vulkan is beautiful though. Hoping that in a few years most games will run on Vulkan so we can all enjoy nice performance.
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>>54750388
What games are you interested in playing? Chances are you will have a better chance with gaming on Windows.
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>>54750352
you sound like you want to hate it.
only because canonicals marketing says that doesn't make it true. Buntu is recommended to new users because it has guis for everything preinstalled and because it has nonfree drivers without going through hoops. The patching ubuntu does to debians repos that they clone makes it very prone to bugs that are usually not fixed until the next release.
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>>54750420
They werk on linux
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>>54750412
This has nothing to do with opengl, the problem lies within bad game ports and drivers that in comparison to windows gpu drivers, fix less of the mistakes game devs make.
>>54750388
This really doesn't matter much, get something with a reasonably new kernel and support for multi-arch.
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>>54750412
Some games runs better on linux than windows. It's all about making a good port.
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>>54750498
I think I will go with fedora.
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>>54750525
I think you're quoting the wrong guy.
Whatever the distribution you choose, if you want to play games, what matters is the drivers you will use (open source or proprietary) and the the kernel version since AMD and nvidia are contributing a lot nowadays.
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Did the unity botnet get removed from Ubuntu?

Are there any installers like architect, but for other distros?

Can I dual boot 8.1 without the botnet spying on me if I only play games on it and do nothing else? Any additional steps to restrict Windows power?
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daily reminder than liniggers can't roll with the big unix dogs
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>>54743370
Is RMS at Oswald West State Park?

Looks like it to me!
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>>54750280
Arc Darker... I like it!
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>>54750700
>Did the unity botnet get removed from Ubuntu?
it's not activated by default, but the package is still here.
>Can I dual boot 8.1 without the botnet spying on me if I only play games on it and do nothing else? Any additional steps to restrict Windows power?
yes. If you boot on windows it won't be able to see anything of the linux partition. Windows can't into ext4.
>Any additional steps to restrict Windows power?
remove the windows partition
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>>54750525
Fedora has a strict policy about nonfree stuff. You're choosing the wrong distro if you want good support for proprietary drivers.
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>>54750716
>le so funny trolle
Do something for the society and leave the gene pool.
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>>54750750
How to be RMS:
>Grow a big beard
>Make EMACS
>Found the GNU project
>Use Linux as a kernel
>Remind everyone that it's just a kernel, and tell them to stop calling GNU/Linux "Linux"
>Talk about free software and its importance
>Tell people how evil is nonfree software and Microsoft and Apple
>Give up programming
>Travel everyday to a new exotic location
>Take your little laptop with you
>Pose with your laptop on a tree or a rock or something similar
>Get someone to take a photo of you
>Wait for that picture to be posted on /fg/lt/
>Answer emails
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>>54750803
And yet that faggot Stallman refuses to approve of them as a free distro.
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>>54750841
I forgot these two:
>Get fat
>Wear stupid clothes
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>>54750841
RMS never installed GNU/Linux.
He's using a libre fork.
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>>54750883
>RMS never installed GNU/Linux.
He got other people to install it for him (maybe because he doesn't know how?)
That doesn't mean he didn't use it.
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>>54750803
>>54750855

The policy only affects software.
>Fedora does have a clear policy about what can be included in the distribution, and it seems to be followed carefully. The policy requires that most software and all fonts be available under a free license, but makes an exception for certain kinds of nonfree firmware. Unfortunately, the decision to allow that firmware in the policy keeps Fedora from meeting the free system distribution guidelines.

>>54750855
>faggot Stallman
Just jump in a lake nigger. Why are you even browsing this thread.
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>>54750923
no u
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>>54750903
Let me rephrase it: RMS never installed GNU/Linux, since vanilla Linux contains nonfree modules, but he's using GNU/GNU Linux-libre; a fork of Linux without said kernel blobs.
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Is there any distro made my truthful, reasonable and respectful developers?
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>>54751256
no
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>>54751256
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Is there a way to remove all unused .config files on HOME?
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>>54751345
Do it by hand, bro. That's the only secure way. Some package managers have a purge option, tho, but I guess it woun't touch your home directory.
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>>54751381

Yeah but how do I know if the files are being used or not?
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>>54751443
Well, by file/directory name?
Don't have conky installed? Remove conky.conf.
This kind of dance.
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redpill me on Hurd
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>>54751613
GNU's failed attempt to replace linux os they can call their OS "GNU".
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>>54751613
>>54751688
HURD was started before Linux. It is a microkernel, which is great in theory, but is very hard to implement. Linux was finished first and was one of the first to complete the GNU system using only free software. Linux was originally nonfree for a short time, but then Torvalds adopted the GPL.
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>>54746574
rms can't idle. It's likely he was with other people who wanted to stop for a minute. It's all explained on this page:

https://stallman.org/rms-lifestyle.html
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>>54750700
The netinstallers for nost distros are kind of like architect, but way better. Debian is a good example.
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>>54746735
All his expenses are paid by whoever is having him talk. None of FSF's money is spent flying rms around. He likely donates some of that to FSF.
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>>54751731
you see Linus always wanted the code to be open before even GPL (check discussion on it in the linux mailing list)
it was just his own license which had similar terms
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What's Debian Sid's current kernel?
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>>54751833
4.5.4
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>>54751825
His license disallowed using Linux to make money. If he had kept that Linux would not be where it is today.

It was a similar license in some ways, but it had some restrictions on freedom 0.
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>>54751842
fug.
Mine is broken.
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>>54751867
>on Sid
>still using official kernels
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>>54751867
How? Uname -v shows something other than screenfetch if this iis your problem.
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So.. I have a Samsung laptop and I want to learn about GNU/Linux, so I decided to try dual-booting Windows 10 and Debian. But I'm really confused about how to proceed now..

I disabled fast boot and secure boot, but the bootable pendrive I created doesn't do anything. Do I have to make it start through those advanced boot options on windows? Also, I read about UEFI bugs on Samsung laptops that bricked it completely when trying to install Linux. Should I be concerned? I really want to try Debian, but I depend on this computer to work and study... Any advice? Thanks in advance
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Why is Cantarell so based, my god.
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>>54751825
>first
Stop spreading fud.One year isnt much to say it was first.
HURD has been in dev since 1990.It was release in 2002 as an empty unstable pre alpha release.FSF and stallman agree it shit that no one should use.
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>>54751848
>freedom 0
Here we go again
Show me a ratified document.
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Trying to setup iptables.
Executing iptables -L results in the following
iptables v1.6.0: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist

NETFILTER is hard enabled in the kernel.
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>>54752318
rainmeter
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>>54752099
During your boot you should see some option to press a key to boot from something or to access uefi. Press that, select the debian stick. After this everything is guided.
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>>54752110
something about human readability. I love it.
>>54752318
>lain sticker
i'd fuck him
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>>54752318
Why can't I meet a grill like this :^(
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>>54751613
Micro > Monolitic
>>54751688
>>>/s4s
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I'm trying to mount NTFS partitions and change the permissions so I can write, currently I have the following settings, but it's not working
/dev/disk/by-uuid/586E49A16E497930 /run/media/user/586E49A16E497930 auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show,auto,users,permissions\0400\0400 0 0
/dev/disk/by-uuid/6813958127F09C68 /run/media/user/6813958127F09C68 auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show,auto,users,permissions\0400\0400 0 0
/dev/disk/by-uuid/1E00F52700F50715 /run/media/user/1E00F52700F50715 auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show,auto,users,permissions\0400\0400 0 0

t. linux noob
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Would a caviar green with 7200 rpm be decent for XFCE?
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>>54752509
s4s likes free software and new ideas.
>>54752526
Post the error messages.
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What does bs= do when using dd? I understand what if and of (input/output file) is, but what's bs? What is the best setting and why? Halp. I just want to do it right.
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>>54752664
I figured it out, I think
...permissions 0 0

I still don't have write access to 'new folder'

$ ls -al
total 5936
drwxr-xr-x 1 user users 4096 May 26 09:37 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 user users 100 May 25 11:35 ..
drwxr-xr-x 1 user users 0 May 3 01:46 FTBBackups
drwxrwxr-x 1 user users 831488 May 19 23:17 'New folder'
drwxr-xr-x 1 user users 0 May 3 08:09 '$RECYCLE.BIN'
drwxr-xr-x 1 user users 0 May 3 08:09 'System Volume Information'
drwxr-xr-x 1 user users 1310720 May 3 03:46 utorrent
drwxr-xr-x 1 user users 1310720 May 7 15:28 utorrent-files
drwxr-xr-x 1 user users 2621440 May 7 15:28 utorrent-watch
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>>54752710
 man dd [...] bs=BYTES
read and write up to BYTES bytes at a time
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>>54752710
read the manfile
bs=BYTES
read and write up to BYTES bytes at a time
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>>54752710
block size
Setting it wrong can make it take slightly longer.
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>>54752710
dd, also known as "disk destroyer" is a tool for destorying your hard drive. Usual usage: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda1. You can use bs (block size) to tweak the speed. Defaults just work out of the box.
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>>54752733
thank
>>54752740
you
>>54752745
guys

Is there a good site where I can learn more about block sizes? What's a good setting for creating a live-usb system?
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>>54752432
Never gonna give you up anon-kun.
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>>54752432
I wouldn't be so sure about their gender, anon. This is 4chan, land of traps.
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>>54752181
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html
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>>54753220
This is not ratified
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i'm trying to use tp_smapi to stop my thinkpad x201 from charging past 80%.

i don't get any errors during installation and configuring via the steps on the thinkwiki, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything.

i think it may be caused by a bug with sandy bridge models mentioned at the bottom of this page: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Tp_smapi#Wrong_HDAPS_axis_orientation_for_x201

anyone know how to fix this shit or of an alternative to tp_smapi that i can use? I am running xubuntu 16.04
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>>54752860
I-I never saw this one b-before >/////>
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>>54752318
>>54752860
What's his name again?
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>>54749756

It's called Angry Search.
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>>54752509
>cant use any moderen hardware
>literally cant do anything
>just got networking support a few months ago
kek
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What program should I use to make hilarious webms?
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>>54751443

Remove everything. If it's "used", it will be created upon the program's start. Deleting things inside $HOME won't fuck things up. The only downside is that you might lose your personalized configs and have to start from scratch.
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>>54752110

>default gtk font
>install dejavu every time because cantarell looks so miniscule and weak

Also, for Cantarell to be readable on my 96dpi screen I have to set the size to 11. Will using uneven font sizes get me court-marshalled?
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>>54752206

Question: do you really need iptables or are you specifically looking to learn how to use it?
If not, consider using a simple front-end for it like ufw. It's as simple as it gets. If you're on a laptop, firewalld is great, because it allows you to setup zones and rules specific to networks (integrates well with Network Manager).
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>>54753623
Cinelerra, blender, ffmpeg
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>>54753725
I use it on 12
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>>54753375

How do you know it's not doing anything? What's happening exactly? What did you do? Post the commands you ran and any error messages.

The page you linked was edited in 2011. Five years passed and according to [0]this it should work.

[0]http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi#Model-specific_status
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>>54753784

Left is Cantarell 12 and right DejaVu Sans Book 10. Cantarell 12 looks bigger, but not as big as I expected from a 12 size. It's slightly too big for my taste.

How is there such a huge difference between the same sized fonts? Am I in the minority for using 10 on a 96DPI screen? What's the "expected" size for such screens?
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>>54753897
The expected size is what looks best to you. In gnome cantarell 11 is default i think.
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>>54753740
My router died and i cant get a replacement until next week.I wanted to setup a firewall,as well as learning how to use it for basic things.
I am using ufw,but it results in the same error,so i was trying to set the same settings with iptables,to see if i was something i did using ufw.
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>>54749756
>>54753605

>What is locate
All these shiny gui crap... kids these days.
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