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Specifications for the GTX 1070.
http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-posts-gtx-1070-specifications/
>The 1070 cuts the number of SMs from 20 down to 15, with a corresponding drop in shader cores. Combined with the lower clock speed, we're looking at 28 percent lower computational performance compared to the GTX 1080, but it's also still seven percent more computational performance than a stock 980 Ti.
>On paper, the 1070 has more computational performance than the 980 Ti but lower bandwidth, but the reduced bandwidth is in part overcome by the improved delta color compression in GP104. The net effect will be about 10 percent lower "real-world" bandwidth than a 980 Ti, so depending on the game the 1070 should come in just above or just below the 980 Ti.
>It also gives you an extra 2GB VRAM, and the TDP is 100W lower, and even with the massive drop in 980 Ti prices during the past week or two, it ends up being the better bargain.
I'm stuck with my iGPU waiting for this to come out. Skylake 6700 and GTX1070. I'm set for years. How well did you think it will perform at 1440p?
What card are you goyims looking at right now?
>>54690736
I'm also waiting for 1070.
I have a 3440x1440 monitor, so non-ti 980 seems a bit weak. I hope 1070 will cost about the same and give 980ti performance.
>>54690871
Do gaymes make use of that aspect ratio? How much did the monitor cost you?
And the 1070 is around 400$. Lower than the 550$ 980ti.
>>54690736
>7GB+1GB
>>54690736
Vega
nvidia a shit, im glad i got a 290x instead of a 780 ti like 3 years ago
>>54690736
>980ti REFERENCE****************
>>54690736
>1920 shaders
>one tier below 1080
Nvidia naming scheme a shit. The shaders they cant fix but it shouldve been something else
>>54690919
Yes, almost all games support it either natively, or via Flawless Widescreen. Some of the older games will run with black borders.
I had a korean 27" 1440p before, and felt that I would like even more space. Could spend around 750$, and at this price it's either a good 34" widescreen or korean 40" 4k (which is huge and will require a couple of 980ti).
>And the 1070 is around 400$. Lower than the 550$ 980ti.
How soon do you think it will be available?
>>54690736
Will wait for AMD in the hope of fixing this.
Otherwise it's the 1070 for me.
>>54691131
Kek. NVidia said they weren't pulling that shit again remains to be seen.
>>54691150
I mainly play RPG/Adventure so Gameworks is fascinating to me. I'm sticking with NVidia.
>>54691173
There's the TDP and price to consider. If it's just 10% slower, it's still 10 times faster than my iGPU. Worried about being the beta tester and the shitty drivers tho.
>>54690736
>1070
>listed as 8GB
>not 7+1GB or 7.5gb+512mb
how is this shit even allowed
>>54691215
I was thinking of getting two 1080ps. Two looks weird though. FOV extended on one side only.
I think I'll just go for a single tile 1440p. Spare some money for my gayming chair.
And it comes out June 10th. Wait for the aftermaket ones. Reference cooling is still horrible. Meme "founder's edition" is 100$ more.
>>54690736
I don't really know if I should upgrade since I only play at 1080p anyway.
I know that this isn't recommendation thread but if I were to change my 770 what should it be?
>>54691216
I think AMD will fix that with Async. Instead of massive amounts of cores running haywire i.e. more noise, heat and power.
>>54691355
Go AMD. R9 390. Enjoy Ultra/60fps. That 8GB could be useful for 4K/8K textures.
>>54690736
>1070
>set for years
they'll gimp it senpai
>>54691398
Should I wait for Polaris so they go cheaper?
>>54691478
You should buy Polaris faggot
Well you should wait a month or 2.
>>54691478
wait for polaris and then buy polaris
>>54691478
They won't go too much cheaper. If you really need it, just get one now. If you're staying at 1080p, Polaris will be useless.
>>54691455
They already released the specifications. And I think I read somewhere that they won't do the 0.5 shit again.
>>54692445
He meant gimp it through drivers so you're forced to buy a new card
>>54692465
Wait, they do that? What the fuck...
>>54691306
Love how its allways about that shit. My gpu died a few weeks back, had a 290, now thinking about buying a 1070. This group thinking of you people is what is killing the industry. Just buy whatever fits in your budget and seems legit.
>>54692482
Who knows? They put less effort in their older platforms then amd. So amd shills allways say that shit because their old trash cards are getting better, while nvidia cards are staying the same/degrading a bit. I dont think they make their cards slower though, but i guess someone is going to correct me with some bullshit relative performance % graph.
>>54692482
yes, they do. or at least, their older cards start performing disproportionally worse in newer games. as in, they shouldn't be as slow as they are, but inexplicably are.
just a preview of what's to come should AMD pull out of the industry.
>>54692632
cuck
>>54692632
how fucking dare people attempt to make informed decisions
>2016
>buying a GPU without HBM(2)
>>54690736
Christ those specs are SHIT
i know the xx70's arnt meant to be 'powerful' but thats really not worth getting rid of a 980/970 oc for
>>54691131
Kek
>>54692902
I just really dont care about brands. They both are big companies whom dont deserve my loyalty because they both fucked up sometimes. Its only natural to take everything with a grain of salt and choose the best value for your budget is it not?
>>54693039
massive cuck
>>54691627
>>54691651
>>54692427
Thanks, will probably get Polaris then.
>>54693039
That's like comparing Stalin to your neighbor who you're pretty sure never returned your power drill.
>>54693185
Who's Stalin in this case?
>>54692632
What's group think about it? Do you still think you're back in reddit?
There's no karma whoring and we are all anonymous. Speak your mind and if it makes sense, we'll all take it into consideration.
>>54693003
I don't think anyone is upgrading from a 9xx to 10xx. I'm doing it because it's either use my iGPU or my GT 730. Plus new features seem really cool. AMD will take months to release Polaris. I'm not waiting that long.
>>54692974
>2017+
>Nvidia still sucks
>>54693327
youd be amazed how many retards will upgrade from even a 980ti to a 1070 or 1080.
Wait for Volta retards
>>54693431
Whoa, man. Where'd you get that?
Can someone explain to me the significance of losing 0.5 GB? I don't think any program can really fully 8GBs of GMem right now. Plus the 970 gimp was done for a design reason.
Apparently accessing the last 0.5GBs would slow the card down to where it was detrimental to actually acess that.
NVidia should work on memory bandwidth more. Doesn't matter how fast cores are if memory takes half an hour to access.
>>54693587
Massive keks
>>54693345
>Cucks buy a 970
>They head about 3.5
>Upgrade to 980
>A couple of months later, 980 Ti comes out
>Cucks upgrade to that too
You'd be amazed how many retards did this
>>54693431
Fake.
The memory crossbar configuration for a 256-bit bus has no need for an a slow parition. Check out the diagrams for a 980Ti vs the 1070's.
I'm about to build my first PC. Should I buy a 980 or wait till the 27th for the 1080? With the almost double the price be worth it?
>>54690736
GPU noob here
What's the most important thing in those specs in buying a Video Card
Shader count?
>>54693631
Hitler would have been an excellent architectural artist.
>>54691306
Because no one knows if that's true yet, retard.
>>54690736
>so depending on the game the 1070 should come in just above or just below the 980 Ti.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
can't even beat a last-gen card?
who the fuck will buy this
>>54696876
>more vram
>1/2 the price
>lower power draw
>big overclocks
Besides it replaces the 970, not a 980ti
>>54694462
Wait for polaris, also wait for zen.
Actually, don't build a PC, buy a bicycle or some shit.
man i am excited for 1070.. currently have a 780
>>54696715
Honestly depends what your looking for. 1070 looks fine for price/value if you never plan to go higher than 1080p. 1440 or up looks like it may be underwhelming on it though due to lower bus speed/bandwidth. See
>>54690736
>The 1070 cuts the number of SMs from 20 down to 15,
>The full Pascal chipset is 60SM(56 enabled)
The new Titan is going to be a monster .
>>54697076
Why they gimp *80 for three times the potential? Too much room even considering *80Ti. They will not sell Titan for $2100, will they?
>>54696982
Yes I'll be sticking with 1080p since I see no point in buying a larger monitor in 4 years.
Thanks
>>54691355
You sure you won't upgrade your monitor someday? 144hz and Gsync/Freesync is pretty fucking amazing.
>>54697076
>Vega 10 can't even compete in raw compute power
AMD is DONE
>>54692427
in the past, nvidia has done price drops when newer amd cards come out.
>>54697076
the housefire to end all housefires
>>54690736
Is NVIDYA trying to meme us?
1920 shaders from a cut down
1080 chip
>>54690736
I'm highly interested in the 1070, but won't buy it when its fraud like the previous one. This is the reason why I now 'enjoy' Kepler drivers instead of 3.5.
Otherwise I'm looking for a 980Ti below 350 €. I won't spent a single € more for such a card. Primarily aiming for one or two 1080Tis, I just need something to survive 4K resolution.
>>54693631
>generic art gets denied meanwhile actually original and unique artists get in
sounds about right 2bh famiglia
>>54697147
Probably because the 60SM test Titan was running at 200C.
>>54696897
Its obviously cut much more than the 980>970. Smart people will be looking for second hand 980 ti hybrids at $400.
>>54697665
>half decent technical painting that requires some skill and training, gets denied
>technically weak, artistically ambiguous paintings and sculptures, gets in
Clearly it wasn't about the art; but the man: not enough of a people person to convince others that he wasn't a total hack and his work worth something.
You know, I too could splash some paint on a canvas and use my imagination (which is a good one) to create a sophisticated philosophical narrative behind what I had just done. Essentially, if I am a good salesman, I would be able to convince the gullible and degenerate masses of art dilettantes that I had just created a masterpiece. Welcome to 20th century "art".
>>54698202
Around 1500 €. The Titan X was already 1200 on release. I expect the Ti with a release price of 1000 € ("Founders" shit edition) which will slowly decrease to 8-900 after some months.
I'm not sure about that, I want at least one Ti, but I won't buy one until ME:Andromeda comes out, the point where I actually need that performance. I better save money for a 2nd 1080Ti, because one will possibly not max 4K.
>>54698968
ME4 is still a console game which the 1080 is already nearly 8x the power of. I wouldn't be surprised if 1080 ti sli pulled 100+ fps at 4k with aa disabled.
>>54698233
Lower TDP
Cheaper
Newer features
DX12 optimized
Still getting the 1070
>>54698770
Yeah, anyone with a modicum of technical skill can paint a modern art """""masterpiece""""".
Take a look at this.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html
>>54691216
That's like having my lamp on
>>54697147
You mean the 1080? Because there is not reason to release a stronger card than the 1080 at that price range at the moment, the 1080 replaces the 980 and is still faster than a 980Ti, they would be cannibalizing their sales, if they did it like you suggested people would just buy the card which would last for years at 1920x1080 and won't need to upgrade for years until 4K becomes a common resolution which is going to take at least 5 years more.
Imagine if everyone had twice the performance of a 980ti for just 1920x1080.
>>54693431
thats MB
windows shows everything as MiB
>>54699214
Fucking CIA
>>54690736
>1080
>30% more hardware
>60% more cost
Those yields must be awful.
Wow. This basically seals the deal - if Polaris 10 is at its worst rumored performance - equal or slightly above the 980 Ti - and at is rumored price of $250-350 , it will basically cream the competition at that price range. It is also going to be much, much more efficient than anything comparable, so... AMD may have a win with this one, cleaning up everything but the $600+ top bracket. Now, if it turns out that the Polaris 10 X version is on the high end of the rumored power, then it will basically threaten even the 1080, offering near to its performance for a lot cheaper.
If they can cement Vega debuting this October though, with HBM2 included.. then that will pretty much crush Nvidia until they release the successor to the 1080 Ti that has HBM2, so that may be well over a year of AMD riding high.
>>54699009
AA enabled. I want 60 stable Gsynced FPS. ME3 is a dream, it runs even on a 670 in 4K, but Andromeda will be heavier.
>>54699520
Yeah, it took AMD two years to get to Titan X level performance. NVidia even had a form of Async in Maxwell and before. AMD was just packing shader cores and hoping the performance would compare. Thus the heat and noise.
HBM will be a game changer though. Memory latency and bandwidth has always plagued NVidia.
>>54699604
Damn, man. I'm running L.A. Noire at like 15FPS with my iGPU. I got a few more months of shitty performance before I can go 60fps.
>>54699671
In 4K? Get at least a cheap used one, here AMD is the better deal. A friend of mine runs a 5850 he got for 30 €, it can handle almost everything in medium-high settings 1080p.
>>54699855
In 1440p. Beauty over FPS for me. I'm pretty sure I'll use Gameworks even if my FPS goes below 30.
>>54696914
That made me laugh for some reason
Well, looks like the GTX 1070 will be my card of choice. Running an HD 6950 at the moment and man does it struggle with Fallout 4 (medium specs, Godrays and anti-aliasing turned off STILL can't get a solid 60fps - hovers around 25 - 35fps, sometimes 15 - 25). I doubt an AMD card will perform as well as a 1070 for a $100 USD cheaper.
Nvidia won this generation.
>>54690736
>>What card are you goyims looking at right now?
A Polaris one.
>>54697431
Not really, since I'm pretty happy with what I currently have.
>>54699905
they win by default if you look at their market-share
AMD still doesn't leak or give us any useful information about their polaris, so you can be sure that thing will NOT compete with pascal in any way.
If I remember correctly, polaris 10 will be as fast as a Fury X with less power consumption.
>>54693631
>obsession with butts and pastel are ok
>fuck your artwork of works of art and old women
>and your butt too
>>54693327
>AMD will take months to release Polaris
That's bullshit.
Polaris has been in mass production for half a year. Pascal has only been in mass production for a couple of months, at best.
The Polaris presentation is in one week. The cards will become widely available right after.
Pascal will only be available as overpriced "founders edition" cards for the first couple of months. Cards from board partners with custom PCBs and coolers will take at least four to six more weeks to become widely available, and they'll be fucking expensive.
Nvidia knew they were way behind AMD with their new cards and rushed their Pascal reveal to trick idiots like you into pre-ordering their founders edition scam cards.
>>54699905
>I doubt an AMD card will perform as well as a 1070 for a $100 USD cheaper.
The 490X will.
>>54700058
So weaker than a 1080, unless they price those carads $200 they won't win anything and if they drop the price that low they woul only cannibalize their sales more than currently are.
>>54691173
So is the 1070 dumb fuck
>>54700188
>Polaris has been in mass production for half a year.
What makes you think this?
>>54691216
Where is 750 Ti?
>>54700204
The x90 cards are usually positioned to compete against Nvidia's xx80. The AMD card that would compete against the 1070 would be 480X.
>>54699879
Then get Gsync. But I would wait until some all-compatible sync comes out. Gsync means you're bound to Nvidia. Which is shit when you need a 4K survival card and your only budget options are 970 and 780Ti.
>>54699214
Laughing my ass off into oblivion.
Oh, Murrika. You so cray-cray.
>>54700299
The Fury card is positioned against Nvidia's 980 and the Fury-X against the 980TI.
>>54700273
Various reports from the end of last / beginning of this year for AMD.
Reports from a couple of months ago for Nvidia.
Mass production for GDDR5X memory has also begun only a month or so ago.
>>54690871
I currently have a 970 and 2560x1080
tell me how good 3440x1440 is pls, I want to dream
>built 390 last December
>my 4k TV only has hdmi 2.0 for a 4k input
>there are no DP->hdmi2.0 adapters available
Looks like I could make up a reason to upgrade later this year
>>54700389
Go check again. The 390X is still priced to compete against the vanilla 980. Looking at recent benchmarks, they seem to be pretty close in average performance too.
>>54700058
If you're right, that would put Polaris 10 within a few percentage points of the 980 ti since that's where the Fury X is right now. That would also put it close to the 1070 since that looks like it's not going to be any faster than the 980 ti.
>>54701212
390X uses three times more watt power though......
>GPU thread
>suddenly everyoe's discussing Hitler
it's like I forgot where we are
>>54690736
>Skylake 6700 and GTX1070. I'm set for years.
good luck with that
>>54701377
nobody cared about power consumption before nvidia brainwashed everyone how important it is(it isn't in consumer environment)
before maxwell nobody cared if card consumed more than 400w
>>54701377
I wasn't talking about power consumption (which you're grossly exaggerating) but rather, game performance. And the other guy's right about power consumption not being that important on desktop computers, unless for some reason you're running your PC off of a battery.
I'm still running a 660ti and I get +144fps in Overwatch
Are new GPU's all just a big meme?
>>54696914
Mfw this is actually something I recently did
>>54701861
Why not both
>>54701789
R9 380X here. Yes, they're all a big meme, and they will keep being big memes for as long as the console industry is dragging down PC gaming.
>>54691269
>Trusting nvidia
You fags never learn.
>>54701987
These AMDfags are always so salty. I could grill a whole turkey inside your right, faggot. Don't forget to keep a fire extinguisher around and hit yourself in the head with it when you see the power bill.
AMD can't optimize shaders for shit. Wait until 2020 when you get your Async.
http://videocardz.com/60232/amd-radeon-r9-480-based-on-polaris-10
Here we go.
>>54702035
>I could grill a whole turkey inside your right, faggot.
What.
>>54702081
I meant "rig". Stupid autocorrect.
>>54701789
>MMO games
>Demanding specs
>>54701789
No, the problem is that you're playing Overwatch.
>oh noes!! Papers Please is so undemanding!!! I wasted muh monies!!!
>>54702035
>I could grill a whole turkey inside your right, faggot.
If you're speaking from personal experiences then you've failed as a PC owner.
How big of an upgrade will the 1070 be from my 6850
Why do people think a 1% increase in performance should be a 1% increase in cost?
>>54701789
overwatch runs on toasters perfectly fine
>>54693668
my 970 was a gift. I then used EVGA step up to get a 980 Ti.
so my 980 Ti literally cost me about 350 bucks.
So fuck you. lol
>>54690736
why is the 1070 worse than the 980 ti
>>54703702
It's not?
>>54693668
stopped after the 980 upgrade
>felt i was forced to because i knew 970 would perform like shit in witcher 3
>980 still performs like shit in witcher 3
>realize gameworks is a fucking meme that runs like shit even on nvidia cards
just fucking give me vega already AMD, i'm so ready to switch over.
>>54703702
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-780-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-970/2165vs2577
See the generational difference. It's also cheaper, newer and you can overclock it you know.
Man I am hyped. It seems that its finally worth upgrading from a 7870XT that served me for years.
Its either going to be the 1070 or the AMD equivalent. Depends on how that turns out. Right now the 1070 looks pretty fucking sweet though
>>54704021
The 1070 will murder its AMD competitor, the 480/X. Even if it's $50 more expensive than the 480X, the fact that it can overclock so high means that the 480X is dead on arrival. According to recent benchmarks, the full Polaris 10 can't even beat a Fury X, whereas the 1070 can beat the 980 Ti, which beats the Fury X in the same benchmark. Overclocked? I suspect it will nip at the heels of a stock 1080.
There is no contest, the 1070 is the king of price-to-performance here.
>>54704081
Now this is shilling.
>>54704104
Nope, this is the real life >>54703271
>Polaris 10 has to Crossfire to beat a 1070
>~$700 to beat a $400 card
AMDLOGIC
>>54704104
No, this is reality.
The shilling in this thread is unreal. I think half the posters are in nvidia's pocket.
>>54704248
Fuck off shill
>>54704248
Neck yourself, AMDshill
The buyers are calling bullshit on AMD's retarded pricing and product line-up.
>>54703675
>Mommy bought me a graphics card! :)
Yep, you're an Nvidia user alright.
>>54704081
>Overclocked? I suspect it will nip at the heels of a stock 1080.
>There is no contest, the 1070 is the king of price-to-performance here.
You're a massive idiot.
The 1070 has 25% fewer shaders and TMUs, smaller memory bandwidth and lower base clocks than the 1080. It won't even match a factory OCed 980TI.
>>54704081
>The 1070 will murder its AMD competitor, the 480/X
The 480X isn't a 1070 competitor though. It'll be priced much lower than the 1070. The 1070 competitor will be the cut-down Vega/R9 490 which, based on how good the 480X is looking, should comfortably beat the 1070.
Is there any info on the temps of the 1070?
>>54691355
The 770 is literal shit atleast the reference design one I got, so anything will be better.
>>54704343
Yeah, and the 1080ti will be out when AMD releases a 1080-teir card.
The only reason to buy AMD is because it provides cheaper non-flagship cards but most buyers forget the added cost of a compulsory fire extinguisher to go along with it.
>>54704343
>It'll be priced much lower than the 1070
See >>54704148
Even if it's just under $300 (which is unlikely), it will take $600 just to beat the Titan X, which the 1070 has barely beaten in the same benchmark.
IT TAKES $200 EXTRA DOLLARS FOR THE 480X TO BEAT A 1070 AT THE BEST CASE SCENARIO PRICING
AMD is done. No one will want to or need to buy any 480 card.
>>54704414
>AMDrones can't defend this
Admit defeat, you cocksuckers. YOU LOST.
>>54704397
>Yeah, and the 1080ti will be out when AMD releases a 1080-teir card.
unlikely. AMD moved the vega release date up to october and before that the general rumors were we'd see the titan P (pascal) and vega in Q1 2017.
r9 490/x will be out in october and we wont see the titan P till early 2017. even then they're differently priced cards.
>>54704324
When will this fucking memes die.
>>54704148
wew 1070 must really suck if it's not on there
>>54704397
get a trip so i can filter you
>>54704570
It barely beats the Titan X, fyi
So buy the 1070 instead of the 980 ti? The reduced Wattage seems nice and the 5-10% performance increase over the 980 ti
>>54704615
The price is the clear winner. Specially if you're someone like me. Haven't upgraded in decades and stuck with my 6700 iGPU.
>>54704615
Buy one now and buy another one for next-gen SLI insanity
>>54704584
Don't like my memes?
>>54704414
>>54704556
>AMD CUNTS RUNNING FOR NEAREST SUICIDE BOOTH
So is the 1070 the card I should buy for my new Battlefield 1 rig
>>54704713
>Battlefield
I would recommend jumping off the tallest building nearby
But yeah, 1070 has the best $/performance right now. Even crossfire poolaris can't beat it.
>>54704810
>Even crossfire poolaris can't beat it.
wat
You do know that the card at the top of that benchmark scoreboard is the 1080, not the 1070, right?
>>54704878
1070 is above the Titan X in perf. CF Polaris level. I still stand by my hyperbole.
>>54704903
The 1070 will be 75% the performance of the 1080 at best, which would be pretty much spot on with Fury-X / 980TI.
>>54704903
do you enjoy being wrong all the time?
>>54704903
>I make claims of unreleased product performance
>without posting proof
>on this, the anonymous cantonese chili pepper horticulture club
>in the year of our lord twenty-sixteen
>>54704936
Where'd you get the 75%? And this is a stock card. Aftermaket OCs can push it a lot higher than aftermaket 980Ti/Fury X.
>>54704963
What? When?
>>54701789
Overwatch is a good example of good optimization
>>54705042
It's not unsubstantiated. Watch the NVidia press conference.
And you're wrong. This is a Swedish bull-prepping discussion board.
>>54705076
>30% less hardware
>lower clock speed
>he thinks it will best a 980ti or TitanX
Please call our technical support hotline at 1-555-WEW-LADD
>>54705113
By your theory, AMD should be crushing every benchmark because of "muh hardware".
Performance depends on the optimizations from API and of the shaders. It's like saying a bigger engine = faster car. Not if you have deflated tyres and a bike's suspension on it.
>>54705186
No, performance largely depends on serial capability, and AMD uses smaller, less specialized shader clusters than Nvidia. Thats why Polaris10 will have similar shader counts but a smaller die soze.
AMD does general purpose hardware better, Nvidia does video game hardware better
>>54705043
>Where'd you get the 75%?
From the image in the OP.
>>54702035
Can confirm, my 290 is a thermonuclear reactor
>>54690736
I'm going to e returning my "defective" GTX 970 for a 1070 third-party. I know people are going to trash these specs, but it's still better than what I currently have at the same price...
GTX 970 price drop when? What's a good price in a month?
>>54705936
Why would you want to buy a broken by design card like that
>>54705936
never, it will be out of stock.
>>54705936
They(nvidia) stopped producing gtx 970s gpus in time for the new cards,they'll stay the same price then shoot up from being rare to find the the shelf.Also nvidia keeps the price inflated by selling them game with the cards on exiting the market.
>>54706057
both of them do that,thats why AMD is selling 390s with Total war:Warhammer.
>>54706057
Is that actually true?
>>54706161
Yes. Bigger Maxwells went out of production this Winter. That includes the 980 Ti and Titan X.
>>54706161
http://www.techpowerup.com/221783/nvidia-reportedly-stops-production-of-certain-maxwell-gpus
As for the game with cards yes,They sell games with cards when they want to get rid of cards on the shelves to make room for the new stuff happens around the holidays too and maybe summer (last year they sould witcher and batman together but the gtx 970s stayed the same price).
>>54706262
Well shit. Guess i'm waiting to buy a 1070 next year.
Should I just get a 980ti right now?
I really need a GPU fast and 1080 is just too expensive and 1070 is just not worth the wait.
I don't give 3 fucks about 100w lower TDP
Hit me up with some good advice guys. Currently have a 970 and looking for an upgrade. I will only be gaming at 1080p so should I save 300 bucks and go with the 1070 or get the 1080?
>>54706421
what you need it for?
>>54706535
Depends,you stick to a 1080p and get a 1080 would you buy a $380 card for 15-20 more FPS because thats the deal your walking into.
Who has better driver support for popular games, AMD or Nvidia? Who offers the smoother gaming experience?
>>54706628
Shitposting on 4chan. Isn't that what everyone here has 980s for?
>have 770
>can still run 99% of new games on ultra
what's the point?
>>54706793
you didn't play doom then or battlefront or any new games
>>54702035
Come again, faggot?
>>54707285
Ooohh...
I can taste them through the screen...
So salty...
>>54706421
Same boat here. 15fps pisses me off.
>So cinematic
>>54706923
Starting to feel this on my 670's but dunno whether to upgrade yet or not.
OP here
GPU Strawpoll
http://www.strawpoll.me/10293543
Do game companys intentionally make games badly optimized to boost GPU sales?
>>54707672
Is Vegas what's coming after Pascal?
Nvidias throttling 1080 founders edition that cannot even hold its boost clock looks like a poor value vs. AMDs mainsteam products.
>>54707765
Nvidia does
That's the entire point of Gameworks
>>54707765
yes. There always are one or two graphics options in a game that cut fps in half for a very small gain in visual fidelity. These are usually the features implemented by engineers sent over from Nvidia and not by the actual dev team.
>>54708095
What settings would those be?
>>54707447
i doubt it, you probably burnt your tongue on that Nvidia certified silver spoon.
>>54708130
hairworks
tesselation
HBAO/HBAO+
non-shader anti-aliasing
full reflections/water
>>54708130
The highest shadow setting of DOOM can only be activated on cards with at least 5GB of RAM and reduces fps by 30% even on a 980ti.
>>54707765
I'm starting to notice this is true. If you look at the visual difference between Ultra and say Medium settings it's often hard to tell the difference yet frame rate is really affected.
>>54693327
I willl go from 970 OC to 1070 as soon as I can get my hands on a windforce oc version
I run 5760 x 1080
>>54707534
I think I might get a 1080 I'm not sure yet.
Who dual 1080's here?
>>54707765
No, do you really think game developers are going to waste money and time in doing something like this, even if they get paid by Nvidia or AMD it would still be lost money.
Graphics stop scaling after some point, specially with console ports, if they want higher graphics they would need to redraw all the Textures and redo all Geometry.
So you have people like >>54708283
So they go with >>54708250 which are incredible features for what they are, beside being rendered in real time in hardware anyone can afford too.
>buy meme 380 4gb
>okay coming from a 560ti
>i5 2400
>system starting to feel dated when it comes to gaymen
>doom 4
>ultra settings stable 60fps
Why is this engine so based?
>>54703793
Welcome to the light
Vega willing be our savior
>Polaris actually does get fury performance
>Vega will be 2x that for $550 at most
Sweet, sweet victory
>>54699658
>NVidia even had a form of Async
a shit form that caused reduced performance, AMD did it right
>>54709172
But it works even better on Pascal where it doesn't have performance degradation anymore.
>muh hardware async
Then why does the 1080 beat the Fury X in every single DX12 benchmark by a margin of 20%?
FFS, an overclocked 980 Ti will still beat a Fury X even with async compute on.
>>54709200
>Then why does the 1080 beat the Fury X in every single DX12 benchmark by a margin of 20%?
because its a 28nm flagship card from last year vs a 16nm flagship card from this year, duh, it had better be performing better during a benchmark especially since the 1080 overheats and loses its overclock so quickly
>>54709200
>Then why does the 1080 beat the Fury X in every single DX12 benchmark by a margin of 20%?
>new card is faster than old card
Will you faggots ever get this?
>>54709241
>>54709243
I thought that the 1080 wasn't any better than the 980 Ti, AMDrones? I thought it was just Maxwell with a die shrink?
Why are you changing your tune so quickly?
>shifting goalpost intensifiees
>>54702035
My 290x runs at 70c on a 10% overclock. Stay mad
>>54709259
more like you're making shit up as you go and moving the goalposts yourself, pascal is a maxwell die shrink, performance increase is almost precisely level with the node shrink, and it costs $700 fucking dollars, even the aftermarket versions are $50 minimum more than the MSRP of the 980
>>54709200
Async compute isn't the world beating tech that AMD would have you believe.
>>54709301
>more like you're making shit up as you go
Why are you making shit up as you go?
Just go to any thread talking about the 1080 Ti and you ALWAYS have those faggots saying
>HURR, it's the same as a 980 Ti HURR
>it's $700 HURR
It's not $700, or at least the ones that people actually buy and won't get overly loud when overclocked.
>$50 more than the 980
Newsflash, dipshit. The 980 started out as $600 MSRP when it launched. It got bumped down to $550 when the 980 Ti came out.
>>54709308
You say this now, despite months of AMDrones going on and on about how Maxwell was dead because it didn't have async compute. And then when it was clarified that ir did, you AMDrones shifted your tone and said that it had shitty async compute. And now that non-AMDshill developers have come out and said that async compute doesn't really do anything, you tried to dismiss that by calling them lazy developers.
Pascal has far more powerful async capabilities DESPITE BEING SOFTWARE BASED.
Eat shit, AMDrones. I've had it with your lies and shifting goalposts.
>>54709377
>AMDrones
you're like those people who say crapple instead of apple
you're not being fucking witty
you're degrading your own argument
>>54709465
What argument?
>>54709465
You're cherrypicking a single word to invalidate an argument that people on this board have seen for months, if not years if we go back a few generations of cards. That is the ultimate proof that you have no evidence to the contrary, therefore you have lost this argument.
Hang yourself, cuck.
>>54709377
Contain your memes son
>>54709496
transplant from /pol/ here
>You're cherrypicking a single word to invalidate an argument that people on this board have seen for months, if not years if we go back a few generations of cards.
nvidia cards are only the amazing things you say they are because of AMD putting up a fight
if it was up to nvidia, your cards would have their price inflated 30% on top of what they are now, and the performance increases would be done almost entirely in software, with the previous generation of cards having their performance gimped even more
>That is the ultimate proof that you have no evidence to the contrary, therefore you have lost this argument.
i'm saying that your argument is being invalidated by you resorting directly to ad hominem when you argue with someone you don't like
>Hang yourself, cuck.
i bet you go to donald generals too
all in all, refer to pic related and try to actually argue for something you like without telling people to hang themselves and resorting to insults based on sexual fetishes
>>54709568
You should read your own picture, cuck
You've fallen for the same traps
>>54709600
"i bet you go to donald generals too"
if you expect me to respond with a sourced and peer reviewed argument to "Hang yourself", you aren't going to get what you came here for.
>>54709628
Number one, I am a Hillary supporter and a campaign volunteer, so fuck off with your meme candidate
Number two, fucking hang yourself at the soonest possible moment for going to /pol/, cuck
>cuck
Yes, I'm reappropriating your meme words and insults because I can
>>54709650
and now you've just completely ruined your entire argument by resorting to petty insults and childish deflections
>>54709650
>Number one, I am a Hillary supporter
This is b8
>>54709679
You're falling for a different sort of argument trap - the fallacy that any argument can be dismissed merely because you felt insulted.
Aww, you poor miserable little cuckolded fuck. Go ahead and dismiss my arguments, you coddled, special snowflake piece of shit. That doesn't change the facts that what I said was true and has been true for the past year or so.
But feel free to close your eyes and ears, wipe your own memory, and pretend that all the bad little things never happened.
>>54709726
Let me guess, a Bernie "Free Shit" Sanders supporter? Glad to see he's making the dumb poorer. He never stood a chance and you all knew it.
>>54709768
You're not persuading anyone by calling them cucks, special snowflakes, and pieces of shit.
You're like a KKK member screaming at people that black people are the highest contributors to crime in the US. It's a completely valid thing to say, and it may well be true, but you're bringing your own argument down by calling the black people on their daily errands around you niggers and making ape noises.
>>54690736
With the 1080 not living up to expectations it makes polaris look a lot more attractive relative to where we can expect the 1070 to perform.
Really a bummer to be honest. Five years for a die shrink and it's pretty much the same old crap.
>>54709796
>black people are the highest contributors to crime in the US
Nope, that's whites, you racist piece of shit
>>54694462
I'm literally building a PC with no CG on purpose. I'll live with the integrated graphics for a while until Polaris if it's something.
>>54709809
Did your girlfriend dump you or something? You're angry as fuck today mate.
>>54709841
First you try to lie and weasel your way around the facts, and now you're telling a black man that blacks are criminals.
Fuck off and die.
>>54709768
>Let me guess, a Bernie "Free Shit" Sanders supporter? Glad to see he's making the dumb poorer. He never stood a chance and you all knew it.
>everyone is american
kek
>>54709796
>You're like a KKK member screaming at people that black people are the highest contributors to crime in the US. It's a completely valid thing to say, and it may well be true, but you're bringing your own argument down by calling the black people on their daily errands around you niggers and making ape noises
Our modern generation: the post.
Thing is totally valid but you can't say thing because thing is mean wahh
>>54699520
There is a thread currently in the catalog showing 2 Polaris barely beating the 980ti in crossfire
>>54699658
Nvidia doesn't have async period and pascal has some form of software async that is inferior to the hardware async that amd has had for years.
>>54711193
Let's say hardware async adds 5 fps (generous) and software async adds 3 fps. Is that really enough to get high and mighty when your card's frametimes look like the Himalayas.
>>54711193
>buy 2 of the same card for crossfire
>almost costs the same as a1080 with worse performance
>>54697665
>original and unique
The artist below Hitler isn't some kind of surrealist, those are just terrible quality. Just look at that shitty self portrait.
The other two seem ok, but what do I know I don't give a shit about sculpting.
>>54711256
>>54711291
>nvidiots this mad that they dont have async
lol cucked
>>54711256
>this denial
Currently own an R9 Fury and a bit underwhelmed with how its performed. Wondering if I should sell it and get a 1070/1080.
When Nvidia sends its GPUs, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending GPUs that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing bugs. They’re bringing BSoDs. They’re firestarters. And some, I assume, are good GPUs.
>>54714133
TRUMP WILL MAKE AMD GREAT AGAIN
From what I understand, Nvidia is fucked because they're not using HBM. AMD will dominate this generation.
>>54715278
Just like the Fury X dominates the 980ti
Oh wait
>>54710392
>>54704414
>>54704148
Those CF gains is unoptimized as fuck.
Its clear that it is not yer properly support seeing that it only get a 40% gain at most when CF is known to get around 70% increase minimun in 3Dmark.
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>>54690736
What's the best GPU I can get on the used market for under $200?
Will I be able to grab an original 980 some time in the next few months for this price?
>>54705936
check ebay in ~a month
>>54707872
>being this retarded
consider suicide
>>54713899
DELET THIS.
>>54715450
Not that anon, but Nvidia basically gimped the Founder edition by including only a single 8pin power connector.
A reviewer change the stock cooler and tried to OC it, but it is limited to its board power limit despite it running cool as fuck.
Don't buy Founder edition, wait for AIBs to come up with custom PCB that solder the extra connector.
