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Welcome to /fglt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
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Let's not worship the false god
>>54666835
is he whistling at a moth?
How come every time I try to install a distro the installer wants internet access, but I never have it?
So far I've only been able to figure out how to properly install mint because the wireless broadcom drivers are included in the live USB.
If I wanted to install a different distro how would I get the wireless drivers if internet isn't working at all?
>>54666835
Should I switch to Linux even if I am not pedo, terrorist or I do not have any illegal data on my PC?
>>54666930
Let's not worship software developpers/activists as though they were gods.
>>54666979
Why do you think it would be a good idea to use linux if you're a pedo/terrorsit/have illegal stuff on your PC?
>>54666971
Depends which distro, they should have some documentation about how to load firmware needed. Debian does, although I couldn't get it to work last time I tried, some just work like manjaro, and some are easy enough with loads of documentation like arch, gentoo.
>>54666979
No. You can leave now.
>>54666971
Which distro do you want to install?
Usually, the distros have an online wiki with information on how to troubleshoot such problems.
>>54666930
let's not restrict ourselves to one god. Polytheism is way more fun because you're gods get to have fights, and sex, and stuff. Monotheism ends up with schizo gods (witness the christian trinity, in which god is three different entities).
>>54667030
your*
and stop this bullshit, there's only one god, and it's God.
>>54666930
Based pragmatist.
>>54667010
So this isn't uncommon?
I thought installing distros like Ubuntu and mint was supposed to be easy and painless but it took me like an hour to figure out how to get the wireless drivers working properly.
>>54667029
I originally wanted to install lubuntu. I actually think that there was a problem with how I was creating the live USB though. Missy guides said the driver was included in the USB, but whenever I opened the USB it was missing files that the guide said to go through to find the drivers.
>>54666971
Ethernet? I believe the intel wifi drivers are in the kernel now, also atheros drivers for usb dongles have been in there for years.
Also subnet, some people have mentioned that tethering your phone works in the installer.
>>54667044
>your*
moran
>>54667073
moron*
>inb4 taking the b8
>>54667063
I tried using an Ethernet cable but it didn't work.
I think there was something wrong with the cable though.
>>54667055
>So this isn't uncommon?
It varies but depends on your hardware. I've had the same problem where it is supposed to work and doesn't. Usually if you can connect with a cable the wifi will work once it is installed in those cases.
>>54667008
Because it is free as in freedom.
Since anons periodically pop up asking for hardening and whatnot advice here is a new auditing/IDS system based on sysdig: https://github.com/draios/falco
Probably only really appropriate on appliance servers and containers though.
>>54667055
You could just install it without internet, then dosudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
It'll have the same effect.
>>54667630
if only i had this pic in >>54666666
Is there a place where I can find a list of bugs from using AMD cards?
>>54666930
yeah, worshiping linus would be retarded, dude never got past the kernel.
>>54666835
I'm trying to make a keybind in openbox to execute a command that contains '&&' and because '&' is a special character for xml it sees it as an error. How do I tell it that I want to use '&' not as a special character?
I wasn't sure if this would be the right thread to ask this in, but what's the difference between Linux and BSD which is unix based?
>>54668861
Learn to use google
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/explaining-bsd/comparing-bsd-and-linux.html
First time Linux user here with a fresh install of Mint.
What are some essential programs and commands I should know?
>>54668832
&
>>54668949
Essential for what?
>>54668949
If you're not aware of it, then it's not essential. Put in a different way: if you're not specifically looking for it, you don't need it.
>>54668949
You install things you need to use to do what you want to do. There's no such thing as essential programs, you have about a million already if you installed mint.
>>54668918
>endorsing google
>>54668861
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/comparing_linux_and_freebsd
>>54668958
>>54668964
>>54668986
o-ok thanks guys.
>>54668949
useful stuff for the start man and info, aptitude, cp, mv, rm, dd, ls, cd, wget and curl, bash
read the inof or man pages for all of those by typingman <program>
orinfo <program>
So between mint and xubuntu which is able to look the best visually easily with the most guides/tutorials to help do so
>>54669036
>best visually
I hope you're aware that this is very subjective and depends entirely on one's taste.
Therefore I would advice you to test both and see for yourself.
Or just kill yourself and stop asking dumbass questions like that :)
>>54668949
>programs and commands
>http://code.snipcademy.com/tutorials/linux-command-line#basic-commands
>>54668951
thanks
>>54666835
Is Netrunner good?
>>54669063
>>54669022
Thank you
Does anyone know anything similar to Anki? Preferably something simpler.
If I'm going to run a windows partition should I run 7 or 8? I've been out of the windows loop for a long time.
>>54669205
>Anki
http://alternativeto.net/software/anki/?license=opensource&platform=linux
>>54669233
what will you use it for?
>>54669233
7, the last good windows IMO
Trying to install Ubuntu on VirtualBox and it's been stuck on this for the last 30 mins (not frozen). Last thing it says in the console is ""started cleanup of temporary directories". Any ideas?
>>54669264
>good
I can't get an Hdmi out with Linux 4.4 and up.
Tried many OSes, on board Intel graphics, 1 or 2 year old.
I think something wrong with hdmi cable detection.
Is reporting this to the kernel's Bugzilla a good idea? What should I do?
what is the oldest GUI or TUI FLOSS file manager? is it gentoo?
>>54669205
mnemosyne (I haven't used it though).
>>54669304
I guess that should be Midnight Commander. I get reminded everyday about it's existence when I accidently type mc instead of mv.
>ctrl+mouse buttons in xterm
>>54669450
Midnight commander:
release: 1994
Dired:
release: ca. 1974
Gentoo:
release: ?
DOS navigator:
release: 1991
xfm:
release: 2001
nautius:
release: 2001
is it possible to find out when gentoo was released?
Downloading first Linux distro
Will switch from dual boot to just Linux if I like it
>>54669538
have fun, remember that man is your friend and the internet helps.
>>54669507
gentoo was written, from scratch, by Emil Brink. The first line of code was written on May 15th, 1998. It is my first program to use the GTK+ GUI toolkit, my first program to be released under the GPL, and also my first really major Linux application. However, it is not my first program! ;^) I've been writing (increasingly complex) code for almost two decades now. I have recently finished my Master of Science degree in Computer Science and Engineering at the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm, Sweden.
PROTIP:man gentoo
>>54668273
Linus writes beautiful code. He has published some side projects that he wrote all on his own and the code is just wonderful. He also lives in the real world while still maintaining his open source ideals and supporting himself through his work.
RMS is basically a homeless loser who hasn't made any real contributions in the last 20 years. He is still super butthurt that Linux beet HURD (but hey, HURD just got basic sound support in 2016!) and basically tries to claim Linux because Linus used GCC and the GNU coreutils. He survives on the charity of others and speaking engagements where he spouts his insane, paranoid, philosophy. Basically he won't be happy until all the programmers are homeless hackers like him and all the companies are shut down. How people are supposed to support themselves and their families in that scenario aren't things he has to deal with because he is basically a permanent grad student. He does make some good points about privacy, but for him, there is no middle ground. Anything that may reduce your privacy even the slightest bit (like movie recommendations on Netflix) is evil according to him, and must be destroyed. In a lot of ways he show classic signs of mental splitting, which is a classic symptom of mental illness. To top it off, when he does write code, he does so in the style of the awful GNU style guide which is a crime against humanity IMHO.
So, in a nutshell:
He's a bird-fucking, self-absorbed, power hungry, toe jam eating pedophile that thinks everything should be free and everyone should be forced to share, who looks like he hasn't showered in years so as to create a static shield around his body to protect from aliens. He also created an OS without a kernel because he's basically Steve Jobs gone communist. Oh, and he calls himself doctor though he holds no PhD.
If anyone exept me posts a reply to >>54669645, I'll start posting bananas.
I have a .img file to put on a partition, how can I do that?
why do you hate ubuntu anons?
>athlon64 x2 5600
>geforce 8800 gt
>can barely browse the "modern" internet anymore
I can't really remember my Windows internet browsing experience, but was wondering if this is to be expected or is this Linux's fault?
>>54669266
what kind of "hardware" did you give it?
>>54667082
You can't be inb4 taking the b8 if you've already taken the b8, my dude
I want to run a terminal with some commands on startup (I'm just fucking around), the problem is when this is runurxvt -e bash -c "toilet --gay -f future 'Wellcome, master.' && screenfetch && bash"
it is supposed to open up a terminal, display a message and run screenfetch, and then allow me to continue using the shell, but the screenfetch displays that whole command as the shell like thisShell: bash c toilet --gay -f future 'Wellcome, master.' && screenfetch && bash
instead of justShell: bash 4.3.30
I get that this has something to do with how screenfetch detects the shell, is there a way to fix this without tinkering with the screenfetch script?
After microsoft's bs with forcing it's customers to switch to 10 I've just about had it with them. How is linux for running games? Will everything still run just right on it?
>>54669706
I don't. I used to not like it and still prefer the RHEL/Cent/Fedora side of the house for simplicity's sake however Cent is limited and Fedora (which is still my favorite on my laptops.) broke my shit on every update. I was just tired of having to fix it every week. Ubuntu seems to work better with my current desktop.
>>54669706
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html
>>54669950
outdated article
disabled by default now and will be removed in Unity 8
>>54669876
No. Depends on the games you play, but in general you can't expect anything to "just run" without any problems.
>>54669860
Put the code into your ~/.bashrc like this:
toilet --gay -f future 'Wellcome, master.'
screenfetch
>>54669985
Read the article faggot.
>>54670022
The output is fine, but I don't want to see the message every time I open a terminal, I want to put the command in my openbox autostart file, so that it is run just once at startup. Something like a splash screen.
>>54669876
>How is linux for running games?
Shit.
Buy a console
>>54669856
What I meant was that I knew that it was a b8, but I don't care anymore.
>>54670121
but I did
did you?
> As of March 2014 we have heard talk of a plan to change Ubuntu to remove this surveillance malfeature. I hope Ubuntu does make that change and soon, since that will vindicate free software's reputation. However, reportedly Ubuntu 14.04 in April 2014 still has the problem.
what he wrote was true in April 2014
it's not true in May 2016
the disclaimer
>Even if it were disabled by default, the feature would still be dangerous: “opt in, once and for all” for a risky practice, where the risk varies depending on details, invites carelessness.
does not make it any more current
and does not address the fact that it will be removed in the next Unity version
>>54669706
Because of many things:
1. Unity
2. The adware "feature" in the search
3. Bloated kernel
4. Supporting nonfree software
and many more that I don't have off the top of my head
>>54669706
unity
shitty distro specific patches that create shitty distro specific bugs
dubious ethics of canonical
recent cooperation with microsoft despite the fact that the "bug #1" on ubuntu bug tracker was "microsoft having monopoly in the OS market" And it was closed because we can't hurt our partners :))))
APT
What icon-theme and what cursor-theme do you use, /fglt/?
I use Moka and Breeze icons (on GNOME)
How can I find which of my installed fonts contain a specific glyph (e.g. , showing a Firefox logo here and some pronunciation sign on another box) and what gets used as a fallback font if the default one doesn't contain it?
>>54670340
I think this is called the "private use" section of unicode, and you should avoid it.
>>54669860
It seems screenfetch is parsing "ps" to get the shell. No idea to work around this, sorry.
I'd put the stuff into the ~/.bashrc file, maybe add something like if [[ -n "$SPLASH" ]]; and just export SHELL=1 if you want to see a splash, if not, don't export it.
>>54669642
nice s4s screenshot and thank you, have some OC.
does kekkats actually still exist?
>>54670340
I don't see it anyway
>>54669791
which DE/WM are you running?
hello friendly GNU anons
I have three hard drives on my computer
disk 1 is a windows SSD, disk 2 is a Linux SSD and disk 3 is a large media HDD
is it possible to make Linux and Windows share disk 3? currently I can't access it from the Linux install
>>54670402
which file system does the HDD use? depending on this you can use it.
>>54670402
yes, so long as it's a filesystem both systems support (so fat32, ntfs, or exfat)
>>54670358
>>54670384
In this case I know the glyph is from Font Awesome , the question is more about determining which fallback font is used and how to override it.
Another glyph often found in some fonts is , which e.g. displays the Apple logo in most of their bundled fonts.
>>54670402
If it has ntfs filesystem, install ntfs-3g instead of the default ntfs driver for linux,
For more information, see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NTFS-3G
>>54669876
games available in linux runs perfectly on it.
>>54670206
While the artice is out of date, it doesn't lose any value. The new Microsoft partner Canonical gives a shit about freedom and Ubuntu is perverting the whole idea of GNU/Linux systems; it's teaching it's users to care about gratis software instead of free software.
The Amazon lense happening is unforgivable.
"If we can only say, “free software won't spy on you, unless it's Ubuntu,” that's much less powerful than saying, “free software won't spy on you.”"
>b-but you can turn it off
>b-but it's disabled now
usually we heard that from Windows users, nowadays also from Ubuntu users
>>54670419
>>54670436
>>54670450
okay thanks it's ntfs
do I just mount it or do I need to do something first?
>>54670584
i'd recommend just mounting it in read only (-ro) because ntfs can be a bitch.
>>54670584
Like I said, if you want read-write access, install NTFS-3G, then add this to your /etc/fstab file:
[
UUID=<your drive's UUID (use "lsblk -o +UUID" to get it)> <mount-point (usually /media/username/LABEL> ntfs-3g defaults,rw,user,auto,umask=0002
[/code]
>>54670532
The Microsoft Canonical partnership is about Windows, not Linux. Its intention is to have Bash and other Ubuntu utilities run natively on Windows. This does not affect Ubuntu Linux in any meaningful way. Just like the Chinese Ubuntu Kylin didn't affect the general version (and the government of China is worse than MS believe you me).
The shopping lense was lame but it's disabled by default and being removed with the next version of Unity. You can mock the statement but it doesn't make it any less true.
>>54670654
Like I said, if you want read-write access, install NTFS-3G, then add this to your /etc/fstab file:UUID=<your drive's UUID (use "lsblk -o +UUID" to get it)> <mount-point (usually /media/username/LABEL> ntfs-3g defaults,rw,user,auto,umask=0002
I fucked up the formatting.
is Ubuntu MATE 16.04 as bad as normal 16.04. Should I 15.10?
>>54670669
The point is, a GNU/Linux distro shouldn't be shipped with spyware in the first place, even if it's "disabled by default".
>>54670669
>Bash and other Ubuntu utilities
>>54670671
thanks this worked
>>54670808
You're welcome!
>>54670765
yea, yea you get the point
>>54670669
>GNU/Linux distribution, made by a company that supports another company that yells "Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches."
>canonical_did_nothing_wrong.wma
>>54671086
http://www.zdnet.com/article/ballmer-i-may-have-called-linux-a-cancer-but-now-i-love-it/
>>54671135
Zdnet is a website made to spread microsoft propaganda.
>>54671135
Of course he does since now Microsoft introduced “native Ubuntu Linux binaries running on Windows” which means Ballmer's stock went up as more people use Winblows for work.
If you want to run GAYMAN you install Win 10x or w/e, and use it exclusively for gayman.
Then you start a virtual machine and do everything else in ganoo linnux. You get a book on ganooo linnux so you understand what's going on instead of just assuming you can point and click.
Then you learn regex, and begin to see the power of ganooo how everything is 'just a file' and can be piped around like piping a video feed to awk that can do post processing on it and return it back to your screen.
Obtain the book 'The Unix Programming Environment' to start.
>>54671349
But I can just run gay men on Ganoo Luniks.
could some one link me copy pasta with gentoo discirption about how hard it is to install gentoo?
>>54670316
Faenza with DMZ-Cursors.
>>54670392
I don't think that will have much effect on the browsing experience.
Openbox with a bunch of utility stuff like a taskbar, etc. It idles at 1% CPU usage, so it's negligible.
Anyone tried Nylas N1 email client?
Seems like a good alternative to thunderbird.
My main complaints about it are electron, and that they by default route all your email through their servers, but you can edit an config file to change that, and they are upfront about doing so....
For some reason konsole shows the same color for everything. I want it to turn red for when I su to my root account, how can I do that?
>>54671086
>.wma
kek
>>54671349
GAYMAN = games?
>>54672134
Gaming.
>>54671914
edit the PS1 variable in .bashrc on root account
if you don't know what to do, there's an article on it on archwiki
>>54671914
When your prompt is #, you are in root. When it's $, you are not.
No retard colors needed
>>54671914
su
confirm with a passwordecho "PS1='\[\e[0;91m\][\u@\h \W]\$\[\e[0m\] 'o" >> /root/.bashrc
Then ctrl+d twice and start up the new session to apply changes
>>54672713
>if you don't know what to do, there's an article on it on archwiki
OF course, ArchWiki.
http://www.deer-run.com/~hal/Unix_Command-Line_Kung_Fu_%28SANS%29.pdf
anyway to download the entire arch wiki for my archive?
it's been so helpful, and i'd like to keep it archived.
Has anyone here been error messages after starting up the system? I'm using Xubuntu and sometimes it shows 2 of the same message.system program problem detected
When I checked it some more it said the package was Plymouth with the path /sbin/Plymouthd
>>54672984
Are you afraid that you'll run out of internet?
>>54673077
well no, just like to keep stuff local if possible.
>>54673107
That's retarded. Not only do you always have access to it, but it's also always changing which means you'd have to make daily backups of it.
>>54673125
you doing something differently from you is indeed retarded, thanks for the friendly input
>>54672984
wget has a mirror function.
What was that one website with useful bash commands?
>>54669645
Baaaaananas!
>>54670340
go to fileformat(dot)info and search for the character. It will tell you which fonts contain it.
>>54672984wget -rl inf -Nkp https://wiki.archlinux.org/
the -k option converts links to point to local copies.
>>54673077
Yes, I have that fear, and I have a reason for that, it happened to me before. (Third world problems).
>>54669645
RMS Made EMACS, which is almost a complete OS by itself.
Can someone recommend me a GNU/LINUX program I can use to create a persistent bootable USB stick? I've tried a number of them, unetbootin, universal usb installer, LiLi, and LiveUSB install, but none of them have worked out for me.
I'm using Debian Jessie, by the way.
>>54674084
Use dd to copy the iso to the flash drive, for more information, check the ArchWiki.
>>54674098
Thanks for the reply. I'll look into this.
>>54666835
What is going on here
>>54674041
gonna give it a shot thanks anon
>>54674204
>>54674139
You are welcome ;)
>>54674169
fag
I have the weirdest fucking issue right now
on all of my computers I'm unable to access any repo server from any Linux distro, even though I have full Internet access otherwise. The shit is going on
>>54674430
Have you tried restarting your router?
>>54674449
dorm router, no access
>>54674461
They may be throttling your connection.
Have you tried to access the repo's url directly, i.e., from a web browser?
UEFI fucked linux up for me.
>>54668188
No Ive been looking around and can hardly find shit. I may sell my MSI r7 370 and get a intel chip hard
>>54674474
uefi fucked up everything
there was nothing wrong with bios
>>54674468
weirdly, I have, and it worked. On the same distro that then can't access it from the terminal to do an apt update
>>54674474
Just reinstall GRUB from a rescue liveCD/flash drive
>>54674486
That's weird...
Try changing the mirrors you're using
I'm thinking about making the switch from Windows to Debian (again) but I probably need to retain use of MS Office, and WINE doesn't really support it. How viable is it to use Office via VM'd Windows?
>>54674527
I know that's not what you're asking, but LibreOffice is quite good imo.
>>54674526
the system cycles the mirrors if one doesn't work anyway, none of them work... or am I wrong in thinking that it.whatever.com and de.whatever.com are 2 different mirrors?
>>54674555
They can be different.
>>54674537
Yeah, but Calc is not Excel. Plus, the formatting gets all wonky when you try to open a LibreOffice file in MS Office and vice versa.
>>54674623
>the formatting gets all wonky when you try to open a LibreOffice file in MS Office and vice versa.
That's Microsoft's fault. They don't release their ".docx" as open source, so the free software supporters would have to reverse engineer it, but they have no reason to not support .odf format, since it's open source.
>>54674505
Doing that right now, thanks.
any way to get the non libre linux kernel on Debian?
>>54674653
>That's Microsoft's fault.
Doesn't matter whose fault it is, it's still a problem. I'm not going to be able to convince everyone I ever work with to use LibreOffice.
>>54674748
The "non-libre" linux kernel?
What do you mean exactly?
>>54674781
That's like saying it's Microsoft's fault for not enabling Windows Phone on iPhone hardware. They can't do anything about it, plain and simple.
If you let yourself believe that now and always you need to work with MS Office then just give up and accept your fate. But don't complain the next time Microsoft does something you don't like, you have voluntarily chosen your fate.
>>54674653
>That's Microsoft's fault. They don't release their ".docx" as open source,
This sounded like BS but I couldn't be sure without google.
Sure enough, first result:
"Office Open XML (also informally known as OOXML or OpenXML or earlier as MOX[2]) is a zipped, XML-based file format developed by Microsoft[3] for representing spreadsheets, charts, presentations and word processing documents. The format was initially standardised by Ecma (as ECMA-376), and by the ISO and IEC (as ISO/IEC 29500) in later versions."
>>54673207
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
>>54674905
Would you release your post under the GPL license? Because I'd like to modify and redistribute it.
>cntrl+f rice
>No results
>>54674905
>The Linux Command Line
Shotts fired.
How to start? Ubuntu? Antergos? I want stability and ricing freedom.
>>54674971
It's a good book for beginners.
>>54674980
Any distro can have ricing freedom, since you can easily change your DE.
>>54674980
Ubuntu if you don't want to read a wiki article on how to install your drivers. Debian, Fedora, Opensuse or even Arch if you do.
You can rice on anything.
What's the most lightweight Linux panel that has menus?
Preferably something without gnome dependencies
After getting a new phone running android two weeks ago, I noticed that phones nowadays could actually do most of what I do with my computer.
So I came to the conclusion that I have no excuse to not give gnu/linux another try. My main OS so far has been OS X on my hackintosh.
I installed linux mint, and after spending the day setting stuff up and fixing things that weren't quite working out of the box (though most things were, I was especially impressed by the fact that external sound card didn't require any drivers and just werked right away) I have to say that I could easily see this becoming my main OS.
It's not quite as comfy and justwerks as OS X, but it does a damn fine job and I feel like the lack of justwerks is a fair trade-off for the power I've gotten as a user.
No questions for now, just felt like letting you know.
>>54675065
tint2 or planck
>that good feel when you finally figure out what you fucked up and get your damn laptop to log in again.
>>54675239
tint2 doesn't have menus
Friendly Reminder Arch is,and always will be the freest distros ever:
Fedora believes in "software freedom" - that is, restricting user software choices to those deemed appropriately licensed by The Powers That Be.
Arch believes in "freedom", as well - the user has control over his or her system and can do what he wants with it.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/The_Arch_Way
>>54674430
What is the actual error message printed out you dumb fuck.
So I'm using KDE and it detects my phone, but gives me a malformed url error when I click the icon after it gets detect. What's happening?
>>54674555
>>54674486
>>54674461
>>54674430
well might as well post a solution. So I was managing to ping websites with ping -4 but not ping -6 so I disabled ipv6 in etc/default grub and regenerating grub.conf as per the Arch wiki instructions and everything works. Still doesn't feel like an actual solution, more like a janky workaround
>>54675731
>grub
>ipv6
What, they have nothing to do with each other.
If you arent using ipv6, blacklist it.The problem you had is common
>>54675830
they must have something in common, since it fixed my issue
I was following this particular line
>Adding ipv6.disable=1 to the kernel line disables the whole IPv6 stack, which is likely what you want if you are experiencing issues
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IPv6#Disable_IPv6
>>54675533
Freedom is not:
>"I can do whatever I want."
a) There are things you really can't do, like buying a car when you're poor, etc. following this logic, poor people could never be free.
b) Freedom of choice/doing whatever you want is anarchism, which itself always leads to slavery.
Freedom is:
>"I'm not a slave."
To stay free, you need restrictions that protect you from getting enslaved.
MTP such a piece of shit? It can't fucking work with linux.
>>54674041
>>54674204
>>54674216
turns out not the best way of archiving it.
found arch-wiki and arch-wiki-lite packages in the aur that are really helpful.
but thanks anyway, i'm sure i can use that wget line somewhere else.
If I `dd`ed my boot GPT to a flash drive would I be able to boot my system from the flash drive without having to change anything else?
Asking because the troubling nature of my software RAID is that if the first drive dies setting up the second one to boot properly is work but if I can make it so my system boots from USB I can just make an image of that bootable USB for backup and shouldn't have to worry about which drive fails. It would also be easier to access the grub recovery console.
>>54666835
Fresh install. Panel menus do not stay on click.
Problem persists with unity and cinnamon.
Wat do?
>>54675953
Read the Arch wiki
I know it's silly, but I'm having problems with lolcat.
It won't display all the pretty colors nicely in urxvt, but in terminator it works perfectly.
Is there something I forgot to add to the .Xresources file, why doesn't it work like it should in urxvt?
>leave to go get food
>leave laptop on, do not shut it, on desk
>come back 1 hour later
>tty log-in screen, x is not running (i.e. it rebooted)
how is this possible? I did a system update this morning; this hasn't happened before
>>54674971
>>54675004
Loved that book and, even as a "beginner" book, it contains a bunch of stuff even the pros don't know. I recommend it to anyone looking to either learn, refresh or round-out their CLI knowledge.
>>54676771
This is a serious problem I'm having here.
>>54677013
u got haxed
>>54676771
fortune | cowsay | lolcat ?
Works on my machine.
This might be a bit out of scope for this thread, but I've been doing development in a VM and was wondering what the best way to get a dedicated laptop and put GNU/Linux on it - is there anything available that allows you to pick and choose your hardware for a laptop?
One could always buy a random laptop at BestBuy and stick GNU/Linux on it, but that is no fun.
>>54674084
DD?
>mfw I just installed OpenSUSE on a virtual machine and I'm running it for the first time
What the fuck is this? Where am I? Where are all my reference points? Can someone just tell me what OpenSUSE is about?
I'm free tonight and I've been using UNIX & GNU/Linux for close to ten years now. I'll help however I can.
>>54677013
What os are you running?
I have this problem with openbox when I can't reconnect to my wifi network when this disconnects for some reason and I have to reboot the system in order to get the wifi work again, anyone know why this happens?
>>54677965
What are you using for wifi? Wpa_supp, networkmanager, wicd? ect.
Will I be mocked if I use visual studio code in linux?
>>54677990
I'm not sure, I think its wicd
>>54677669
I remembered feeling like this maybe 8 or so years ago when I first tried using Linux.
It was weird because after thinking about it enough I realized that the reason I was feeling that way was because of the times when I was just bored and wouldn't know what to do, you often spend time clicking around say the start menu or something.
Instead of treating your PC as a playground to find something to do, try to decide what you want to do _first_, then go do it.
When I realized that everything started making more sense.
>>54678033
There is literally nothing but a weird ass 90's DE and a GUI package manager.
>>54677990
Wait, it's nm_applet.
>>54677669
Get comfortable with the terminal. Grab a Bash index and just tinker around. Make sure you understand everything. Don't just copy and paste things into the terminal.
>>54678064
There's a few things you can check your logs in /var/log/*, run it in terminal and when the connection cuts see if there's any error output.
>>54678061
I don't know what the default OpenSUSE installation is like. But if you think it's lacking in pre-installed software then maybe a different distribution would be better for you? Like Ubuntu or Linux Mint maybe?
But you should still be able to get everything you want on the install you have now. You just have to know what you want first. Then either find it (if it's installed) or install it through the package manager.
>>54678083
What'd I do if there's an error output?
>>54678105
Oh I'm relatively familiar with Linux. I just want to understand why the base experience is so different from the typical RHEL/Debian-based distro. What is OpenSUSE for? What is the point of what it's prepackaged with? I was told it was aimed at developers but... what is it about OpenSUSE that's specifically made for developers?
>>54678109
You can Google it or post it here and I'll see if I can help. Chances are there's someone who was once exactly in your position. It could just be your wifi config.
>>54678151
Ok thanks man, I'll do it, just one more thing, the "/var/log*" thing, I just put that in the terminal?
How does it feel not having to deal with this?
>>54678204
Well, see if dmesg has any usefull output first and if it doesn't thecd /var/log
ls
I'm not sure if nm_applet has a log or not. If it doesn't then just launch nm_applet from the terminal.
>>54678237
alright man thanks a lot.
>>54678286
anytime man
>VLC stutters and flashes occasionally
>Too stupid to rebind keys or really do anything in MPV
Everything is pain
>>54678380
Honestly man, VLC in itself can be considered a security vulnerability. You probably should just switch to something like MPV.
comfiest tiling window manager?
>>54678415
I was discouraged by my first failed attempt to rebind scroll wheel to volume control, so I now assume everything is too difficult for me in MPV
Hey guys, I'm on Opensusr/Xfce. For some reason using my laptop's fn shortcuts (in this case to change the speaker volume) disable my ekyboard, so I would have to reset to move again. What is going on and how do I fix it?
>>54678520
*opensuse, keyboard
typing on my phone since my laptop keyboard isn't responsive right now.
>>54678520
>>54678537
You can check your keybindings in XFCE4 to make sure there's nothing set to disable keyboard.
What's the GOAT music player approved by /flt/?
I'm using Audacious but I hate it now, i want something better
>>54678598
KISS and use deadbeef.
>>54678567
thanks. I don't see a value and property that fit that description but it's a start.
>>54678598
I enjoy ncmpcpp client side with mpd
>>54678627
There's a few different keymaps you might find in the os. I'm sorry. I've never had that issue before but I'm sure you'll find it eventually.
>>54678660
Yeah, it will be fine.
>>54678602
looks too simple and meme-like tbqh.
How about Exaile(gtk+ version of Amarok)
>>54678660
>>54678674
for some reason it's happening if I
1)press the volume up key quickly, causing the volume to raise to max somehow
2)press mute in response to that
If I mute before the volume goes crazy it doesn't cause the keyboard to disable.
Is there any way to get Popcorn Time to recognize gnome-mpv?
>>54678445
please respond.. is i3 good?
>Try to import my music into audacious
>It doesn't work for most of my music unless i literally go into each folder and drag them in one by one
What the fuck?
The problem with K3565 modem is that if I unplug the modem and plug it again at my Hame A2 router, I can't connect to the internet.
The chatscript always hangs at NO CARRIER.
I've tried this with 3 other modems, they don't have this problem, but they have problem with extroot.
I can plug / unplug my K3565 at Ubuntu / Windows and they don't have this problem.
The chatscript works if I reboot the router, but that sounds dumb so yeah, I investigate the chatscript.
It seems Windows, OpenWRT and Arch have different "chatscript".
For now I'll try to mod OpenWRT's chatscript and see if that fixes the issue.
>tfw wasting time to fix shit and actually enjoy it
I want to use sudoedit but everytime I try to edit a conf file I get this errorsudoedit: i3blocks.conf: editing files in a writable directory is not permitted
D-doushio /fglt/-kun...
>>54679084
I think this means you can edit it w/o root priviliges.
>>54678823
I used it for like 3 or 4 months, it was awesome. It doesn't stand in your way, it just lets you do what you wanna do.
>>54678823
has a small learning curve, but it is very good indeed.
>>54674748
what's wrong with modules?
>>54674969
good
>>54675133
that's nice, I'd recommend checking out a few DEs and their shortcuts. this can increase your comfy level even more.
>>54678217
very good
>>54679021
>tfw wasting time to fix shit and actually enjoy it
maybe you enjoy the learning. good luck on hacking openWRT.
Is having ZFS on Linux always going to be a pain in the ass?
I use thezfs-linuxpackage from AUR and every time kernel updates I have to uninstall ZFS, update kernel, and then install ZFS back.
Can this be avoided somehow?
>>54675065
lxpanel
>>54666930
all hail kevin sorbo!!!
>>54677013
Someone broke in and peed on your laptop.
>>54680181
Yes, by using a normal, default filesystem. Chances are you don't even benefit from ZFS, but only installed it because you heard it's cool and niche.
>>54680228
>implying
I wouldn't be jumping through all the dumb hoops if I didn't majorly benefit from ZFS and its unique features. Fuck off.
How do I get redshift to begin on startup? Or more specifically, how do I get this commandredshift -l 40:-74to execute on startup? I've tried putting it in ~/.config/autostart-scripts/ with multiple file extensions, but I honestly have no idea what I'm doing. There are some other commands I'd like to run on startup too.
>>54680345
add it in your de's autostart (in xfce its session and startup>application autostart)
>>54680373
I tried that, its in the tweak tools in gnome.
Problem is, you can only add actual program that you've installed (as far as I know) and if I select redshift, it will just try to run redshift with no other options. Since redshift needs root to find my location, it doesn't work. That's why I need to runredshift -l 40:-74specifically.
>>54680393
https://askubuntu.com/questions/290099/how-to-run-a-script-during-boot-as-root
>>54680393
You put that command into a file (with a shebang, make it executable) and put that file into Xfce's autostrat thing.
>>54680439
>>54680520
Never mind senpaitachi, somehow it gave me the option of adding the instance of redshift that was currently running to startup applications and it werks.
systemd-ask-password "what's your fetish?"
What's this used for? I have two of those running and never saw it pop up.
>systemd-ask-password-wall.path
>systemd-ask-password-console.path
Question for Arch users:
How often does it break and how much tinkering is needed for daily stable use?
Been thinking about switching from *buntu (read: Mint) to Arch but I am concerned about what I read about the amount of daily tinkering and breaking it due to the rolling updates.
I am one of those who need a stable machine and don't have the time/patience to spend 10hrs a week maintaining and fixing it.
I like the idea of simple, clean OS without all the bloat *buntu throws at me though...
TL:DR: how much maintenance does Arch require?
>>54680571
Stop listening to memes and myths. Install it yourself and see for yourself. Stop just taking other people's opinions for granted.
What do you want me to tell you? That it works normally? Why would you believe me and not the guy below me who will epically post a meme that it breaks all the time?
>>54680571
>>54680586
>I like the idea of simple, clean OS without all the bloat *buntu throws at me though...
There's something called "netinstall" via the Ubuntu mini ISO. There's also something called "--no-install-recommends" for apt.
>>54680571
When I open Mumble normally and try to connect to any server, it freezes for several seconds before giving me the option to force quit.
If I open Mumble through the terminal (only as root), it runs Mumble with all default settings and the audio wizard open, so I have to set everything up again, but it actually connects to servers without freezing.
Wat is this.
>>54680571
>How often does it break
I've never had it break by itself in over two years of use. I did have to reinstall once, though. But that's to be expected, since your first one or two Arch installations are "drafts" for your perfect OS.
>how much tinkering is needed for daily stable use?
Daily maintenance is almost non-existent (I update packages at least once a day, but that's one command).
But you do have to spend from several days to a few weeks (depending on your experience and general computer literacy) to get things set up the way you want to. Especially if it's your first time facing the command line with no GUI, because that's what you get after installing raw Arch.
I would really recommend Arch but only with one requirement: you know what you're doing or willing to learn to do a bunch of useless linux shit that Ubuntus do for you with a cute GUI.
>>54680627
Fucking weird. After randomly enabling disabling "Force TCP mode", "Use Quality of Service", and "Reconnect automatically" in a fit of insanity, closing and opening Mumble every now and then, it now works perfectly (even with exactly the same settings I had before)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>54680586
Because a reply like >>54680644 is quite helpful. It's not that hard distinguishing fanbois, haters and genuine replies.
>>54680644
Thanks. And yeh, that thing about how it takes time to set up is the price you pay for muh freedoms and is to be expected and accepted.
Learning stuff is one of the reasons so I am not put off by that at all. Having to spend eg. 2hrs every day just for a stable OS however is not an option for me but seems you say that is not the case so good for me.
>>54680797
>for muh freedoms
Arch doesn't offer you more "freedom" than a different distribution would. You didn't even specify what type of freedom. Good thing that it's still true for both of the definitions.
>>54680846
Yes it does, Arch is significantly more 'bare-bones' than other distros after installation. Several distros either come with non-free software or push them on you. Either way, your post is not true.
>>54680846
My bad... by 'muh freedoms' I meant freedom to do whatever the fuck I want in terms of customisation and setup.
>>54666835
Using elementary os (freya) and like it, only thing is would like wingpanel to autohide so I can full screen (without manually fulscreening every program).
Wingpanel itself it seems has no more updates, is there any software that can make it autohide?
>>54678478
>I was discouraged by my first failed attempt to rebind scroll wheel to volume control, so I now assume everything is too difficult for me in MPV
Have mine:MOUSE_BTN3 add volume +5
MOUSE_BTN4 add volume -5
mpv is piss easy; you just need to read the manpage.
>>54678445
Depends on your skills.
Awesome can be gods gift for you if you know Lua, but if you know C, dwm will make you day. Some WM's don't require skills to configure them, check this list: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Comparison_of_tiling_window_managers
tl;dr i3 is nice for basic tiling; give bspwm a go when you need more functionality or use Awesome if you love scripting things in Lua, use dwm if you love minimalism and compiling.
>>54680393
Trysh -c 'redshift -l 40:-74'
>>54680906
> Arch is significantly more 'bare-bones' than other distros after installation
No, it's not. Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora and Gentoo are just some of the major distributions which offer minimal installs.
>Several distros either come with non-free software or push them on you
So does Arch. It has non-free software in its repositories and a non-free kernel.
>>54680907
See above, you can do the same in other distributions.
t. Arch user who isn't deluded
>>54681045
That's good and all, but I also love Arch for AUR. It's one of the great strengths of Arch that I won't give up for PPA or whatever.
>>54681092
What kind of retarded copypasta is that?
What are the advantages, if any, of using musl over glibc?
>>54681045
>>So does Arch. It has non-free software in its repositories and a non-free kernel.
You can always use Parabola though
Is there any free software that allows extracting RAR files? It's, according to vrms, literally my very last propritary package I've installed.
I really think we just need a new "user friendly" distro. Or rather, a new user friendly desktop environment and a distro to go with it.
But not "user friendly" in this modern way that all software seems to be going these days.
It needs to be done to the same standard of older user friendly software, like the win95/98 days.
They gave you what you needed without any flashiness and didn't go out of their way to hide the way computers actually work under the hood by doing too much for you.
and I think all the extra software that gets bundled with it in the menus should be like a separate package, so users who like to do more customizing will use that DE too without all the extra shit they usually come with, but your standard "user friendly" distro would come with it all loaded up.
Isn't this kind of like what GNOME was? Before they fucking ruined it?
>>54680571
>How often does it break and how much tinkering is needed for daily stable use?
that shit is more stable than any distribution I have used in my life. All the programs works perfectly. The unique issue I had so far is with the AUR. Gnu Icecat have a dependency issue.
I've been using it for more than a year now.
>>54681398
So Manjaro?
>win95/98
>not hiding the under-the-hood stuff
The only way it's not hidden is by the GUI settings giving you error messages
>>54681351
Parabola isn't Arch.
>>54681447
It's Arch with nonfreedom surgically excised.
>>54681344
You get to enjoy less software working with it, but you can feel superior for using something other people don't.
>>54666835
switched to ubuntu 2 weeks ago. its really neat, it could work with it, but couple of things are shit. after 16 lts update everything kinda went to shit, pc kept freezing after boot, ive read somewhere that it could be problem with gpu driver or something, solution was to boot with downgraded kernel. next, making shortcuts is really retarded and i dont know how to sudo run gui programs (IDE for example) with bash script. Ive tried with pkexec but it doesnt work. And i hope that in future there will be more usefull applications. But all in all it is nice alternative to windozer
>>54681398
>win95/98 didn't hide the way computers actually work under the hood
That's an ignorant and stupid thing to say.
Don't call it GNU/Linux, it gives that street shitter Stallman too much credit.
You know the faggot claims to be a doctor despite not even having finished his masters?
>>54681353
According to [1]this, there isn't. The unrar package itself is not free. Other software like file-roller or xarchiver use it to deal with RAR files. Stop using RAR or if you don't value your privacy, use those online extraction tools.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/12/msg01080.html
>>54681464
I said "go out of their way" to do it.
Today's modern user interfaces try to make computers function like some kind of system out of that movie "minority report"
I'm new to Linux. I'm going to install Xubuntu as my first distro.
What's a good video, or video series I can watch to learn the basics of how to work in Linux?
Installing, compiling, desktop environments, CLI, differences from Mac/Windows, techie stuff.
how to disable compton drop shadow for Qt5 context / right click menu?
>>54681486
Hello 9gag, I'm just leaving this here:
1996: Honorary doctorate from Sweden's Royal Institute of Technology
2001: Honorary doctorate, from the University of Glasgow
2003: Honorary doctorate, from the Vrije Universiteit Brussel
2004: Honorary doctorate, from the Universidad Nacional de Salta
2004: Honorary professorship, from the Universidad Nacional de Ingeniería del Perú
2007: Honorary professorship, from the Universidad Inca Garcilaso de la Vega
2007: Honorary doctorate, from the Universidad de Los Angeles de Chimbote
2007: Honorary doctorate, from the University of Pavia
2008: Honorary doctorate from the Universidad Nacional de Trujillo, in Peru
2009: Honorary doctorate, from Lakehead University
2011: Honorary doctorate, from National University of Córdoba
2012: Honorary professorship, from the Universidad César Vallejo de Trujillo, in Peru
2012: Honorary doctorate, from the Universidad Latinoamericana Cima de Tacna, in Peru
2012: Honorary doctorate, from the Universidad José Faustino Sanchez Carrió, in Peru
2014: Honorary doctorate, from Concordia University, in Montréal
>>54681486
This is a friendly thread; unless you want to discuss something about GNU/Linux (or "Linux," as you and many others mistakenly call it), then please take your memes and leave.
>>54681923
>honorary
>>54681866
Install xprop, find out their name and add to Compton's config?
> <C-f> "Arch": 49 matches
> <C-f> "Ubuntu": 32 matches
> <C-f> "Fedora": 6 mathes
it goes without saying, Arch is the best.
>>54681923
Where is Peru and why deos he have so many honorary doctorates from there?
>>54681855
The best idea is to read the book mentioned in OP, tinker through the Arch Wiki and read the program's manpages.man programis basically all you need. To know what program to use, runapropos downloadto get a list of installed programs that do (in this example) jobs for downloading stuff, then you can go to the manpage and learn how the desired program works.
>>54675533
>>Arch is the best linux distro
>stating the obvious
>>54681963
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_degree
>>54675896
I need the freedom to do whatever the fuck i want to, not the freedom that i am "forced" into, as this contradicts the definition of freedom.
Posting here since /v/ won't know shit about linux.
I wanted to play some old video games on a gameboy advance emulator with some friend. Is there a way to emulate a link cable ?
>>54681968
have you used xprop?
that is impossible
>>54682079
I'd say that depends on the emulator, no?
>>54682079
You may find an answer here: http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Main_Page
or here: https://emulation-general.wikia.com
or even here: https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/ (sorry for linking to red.dit)
>>54682086
i mean i dont want to disable drop shadow for the program window, just the right click type menus because of the Fusion theme
>>54666835
Hello /fglt/. I wanna learn to use Linux and so far my only knowledge is what I've managed to learn from reading posts here and there on /g/.
I plan to start by using
>https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-linux-linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-0#!
to learn the basics. Is this a good source? What else is there?
>>54681923
Wow. Those Peruvian honorary doctorates sure seem legit. Hope my surgeon has plenty when I get my gall balder removed.
>>54682073
You need to stop connecting freedoms with choices. These are two different things. Freedom means not being enslaved; in the tech world this means, not being controlled by the software. If you choose to install nonfree software, you're enslaving yourself (the program controls your computing) which is the direct opposite of freedom (you control the program).
>>54682201
First you should learn Bash. See: >>54674905
>>54682201
that looks like a really complicated way if you want to learn the basics. idk, maybe that course is good, but you can just read any article about bash or whatever topic you're interested in. I like
http://www.funtoo.org/Linux_Fundamentals,_Part_1
also if you want to learn vim, install it and then run vimtutor from the cli
Basic systemd management consists of 6 commands (systemctl start, stop, enable, disable, mask, unmask) so that is another thing you can learn quicky
>>54682225
But in your definition of freedom, you are not "free" to use whatever software you like, even if you know that it's bad for you.
Does emacs integrates well with Kubuntu?
===============================
I want to install Kubuntu as my first GNU/Linux distro because it looks familiar. I learnt to use emacs org-mode on college computers. I remember some vague advice about not installing Kubuntu or K-sounding things on those computers as they don't integrate very well.
My question is are there any issues with using emacs on Kubuntu?
>>54682225
>freedom means you do whatever I say you can do
Stallmanite please. According to freedom one, I can run software for any purpose. True freedom indeed. So since I can use it for any purpose, does that include running a script to remove any traces of GPL licenses and re-licensing it all as BSD/MIT? I mean, that is true freedom.. to be able to use software for ANY purpose
>>54682257
Why do so many people hate systemd?
Free Thread: >>54682268
>>54682272
I once tried to remove Emacs after installing it, and it ended up removing many other packages along with it, including the gdm greeter.
>>54682286
Thanks. hope i never have to remove it then.
>>54682242
>>54682257
>Bash
>whatever topic you're interested in
>vim
>cli
>all dem commands
I have no idea what any of this means, except the commands, which are probably what I input into the command line to perform a function, I think.
I'm watching this right now
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gCwCOhMcog
Right now, I need someone to spoonfeed me some basic info. I wanna keep my win10 for now, since I have a lot of pending work on it. Would dual booting be safe and would booting into win10 just require a restart of my laptop? Are there any risks involved where I could end up losing my files on win10 or fucking something up?
After that, I need to know how to install Linux.
>>54682351
Read the "Babby's first Linux" wiki, the link is in the OP.
>>54682398
Ok, thanks.
One more question; is a virtual box running Linux on win10 demanding of resources that would slow down or heat up my laptop. I'm using a T430 with a 3rd gen i5 and 8gigs of RAM.
>>54674382
not very friendly
What's a good linux distro to run on a complete potato? I've got a spare PC with 512MB RAM and want to recycle it into a basic home server machine of sorts.
>>54683260
Anything without a GUI.
>>54682002
>where is peru
this is an 18+ site, please go to school instead of shitposting
>>54682208
it would be rude of rms not to accept their choice to give him honorary degrees.
>>54680571
>How often does it break and how much tinkering is needed for daily stable use?
it doesn't
the tinkering reflects my understanding evolution and preferences
