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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
FIRST
>>54540799
1st for x220 master race
Hi /tpg/
I can buy a T420, i7, 8GB, 1600x900 for €350,-
but the buyers guide says ~$180, $210
Is €350 a good price for this thinkpad? I get the impression that Thinkpads are more expensive in the EU or do I just have to be patient and wait for a good deal?
>>54540814
is that a /g/ meetup?
>>54540814
Look at that poor fellow with the gaymen laptop, he doesn't know how much money he wasted
>>54540814
Whoa, what's going on here?
Got my first thinkpad
>T530
Holy shit the keyboard is incredible.
IPS screen for a x230, what should I buy?
>04w3919
Or
>04w3462
>>54542241
Where do you find the screens?
>>54542261
Ebay, should I be looking somewhere else?
so I know the newer ThinkPads got a lot worse and all, I own a T60p, T420, and X220T myself. Looking at the new ones on the Lenovo site, though, and I can't believe you can't get a new T560 with a discrete GPU. What's the deal?
Also anyone here tried the P series? I'm personally waiting on the Retro ThinkPad and probably won't even be able to afford it when it comes out, but I've got friends looking at newer machines.
>>54540828
Thinkpads are much more expensive in EU. 350 yurodollars is way to expensive, I have seen t420 with similar specs (i5 instead of i7) go for almost half this price in near mint condition (on auctions), and that's in EU. You can get get some dell or hp elitebook (mint condition) with slightly lower specs for 1/3 of this price, again in EU.
>>54540799
Anyone try the T460 or T460s yet? Debating between the two, but I'm hearing the screen on the T460 is somewhat dim.
>>54542392
https://www.gebruikt.com/lenovo-t420s-i5-2540m-4gb-160gb-ssd-14-inch-win-7.html
Is this a good deal?
Without SSD but with the 8GB ram upgrade it's €268,50
I think the s model is generally more expensive than the regular version but I like that it's lighter and thinner
Or are there advantages of the regular version over the s version? (I don't need fingerprint recognition)
Typing this a t530, best keyboard of all time. I haven't tried the 220 or 420 keyboard. Thinking the x220 is going to be a nice secondary laptop.
>>54542432
Just have it shipped from us Ebay. Shipping might take you back 25$ but it'll still be cheaper.
>>54542392
Dells are the most expensive in the EU.
Dell > Lenovo > HP
I bought a Fujitsu Lifebook S6420 for 140$.
Great laptop for the price, I can even run Gnome 3 with little lag.
>>54540799
anyone have a board-view of a t420 motherboard
>>54540799
There's a shop that sells cheapish x220s.
I'm tempted but how's the battery life on the default batteries? Especially used?
Thoughts on R40? Its $75 and the only thinkpad available local. Any upgrades possible with this old hunk?
>>54542796
Deprecated and consumer tier
don't bother.
>>54542499
>Shipping might take you back 25$ but it'll still be cheaper.
Shipping is generally around $50,-. Also, for products that are more than $180,- I have to pay import charges which are usually another $40,-. So if I do happen to find a seller that ships internationally (which many don't) I pay around the same if not more
Not sure if I fucked up.
T440 with an i7,1080P IPS, 8GB. Going to put a T530 trackpad onto it.
$500
should I?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/9-Cell-Battery-for-Lenovo-Thinkpad-E40-E50-T410-T410I-T420-T510-T510I-T520-W510-/251909091384?hash=item3aa6f3b038:g:fDAAAOSwSHZWelaV
>>54543053
I think that's pretty damn good. You can't put a T430 trackpad on it though. Try the T450.
Could someone tell me if ThinkPad laptops are noisy ? One of the thing that bothers me in general with computer are the noise they produce.
Does a T430 does a lot of noise ? I think I'm going to buy this one so I kinda want to know
Anyone ever get a refurbished ThinkPad from a retailer?
My local has a refurbished T420 open box for $191.
Has anyone actually done the *20 keyboard in a =>*30 swap? I know you have to reprogram some of the keys and I'm wondering if the end result is the keyboard working as expected or if there are still some issues to be had.
>>54543876
I've never fucked with that kind of swap, but I hear that there is a bios you can flash on a *30 series to make the old keyboard work normally.
>>54543955
Oh, nice. Didn't think of that. Coreboot, I'm guessing?
>>54543699
My T420s has a high pitched fan. Sort of annoying, but you get used to it. I'd imagine the thicker laptops wouldn't be so high pitched because they don't need such a low profile fan.
>>54540799
Question, does anyone know when this new "retro" style thinkpad is supposed to come out? Or have they been keeping silence after all those surveys.
>>54544517
25th anniversary is next year.
So I'm kinda confused. In a T420 it's not possible to upgrade the GPU, but you can upgrade the CPU?
>>54544998
Yes. Laptop GPUs are almost all soldered, with the only exception being the relatively recent MXM slot that you'll only find in top-end gaming laptops and the like. If you want better graphics performance without buying a newer/higher-end laptop, eGPU is your only option.
>>54543730
Anyone? Should I go for it?
>>54545041
>relatively recent
I have an ASUS from 2009 with a MXM slot.
>>54544536
Thanks, should I wait for this new laptop or get a cheap IBM thinkpad?
>>54544494
Same with the T430s. It also has an i7 so if I undervolted the fan I'd overheat to fuck. it already hits around 90c playing Civ 5.
>>54544494
So should I get the 420s or the 420?
I'm reading online the regular 420 has more customization options but only one USB 3.0, but the s has two?
I first thought that I should go for the s but now I'm not so sure anymore
>>54545136
T420s has only one USB3.0, still has an extra mPCIe for SSD, ExpressCard slot and ultrabay. The difference is that the CPU in the T420s is soldered on instead of socketed like the T420.
The T420s has shit battery life though.
>>54545213
>The difference is that the CPU in the T420s is soldered on instead of socketed like the T420.
Yeah I read that online, hence I was looking for an i7 model
>The T420s has shit battery life though.
Ok, I won't go for the s then.
Ordered babies first thinkpad.
X230 with; i5, 500GB HDD, 4gb RAM and in great condition for $230.
I'm gonna put an ssd and IPS panel in it too.
How'd I do folks?
>>54545266
I feel 4gb is too little nowadays. 8gb is the minimum I need to be comfortable.
>>54545265
Yeah, my 420s is an i7, so it runs a bit toasty by default. Only one USB3 like the other anon said.
Sucks that the processor is soldered on the board, though. I lucked out and got an i7.
Battery life is pretty bad, but I think for mine that may be due to a worn battery. I am planning on getting a new main battery as well as an ultrabay battery. Should help considerably.
It's a nice laptop, though. Last of the nice keyboards, too.
>>54545474
Actually, never mind. According to inxi my battery condition is at 96%. So, yeah, just terrible capacity. I get maybe an hour and a half out of a charge. More like an hour.
>>54545744
>just terrible capacity
If you only had bought the version with the i5, you would have a laptop with far better battery life, better temps and a performance drop of 10% (or less).
>I lucked out and got an i7
kek
I can buy a T420 without battery or charger for $165 but looking around online the original batteries cost close to €190 so that'd be way too much.
I can get one from China for only $33 though: http://nl.aliexpress.com/item/New-Original-Laptop-battery-for-LENOVO-ThinkPad-E40-E50-E420-E520-SL410-SL510-T410-T510-T420/32633974789.html
anyone has experience with fake batteries? Are they worth it?
>>54545868
so the i7 is far worse than the i5?
What would be the ideal processor for a normal T420?
>>54545886
The better i5.
>>54543730
I got my X220 from a "retailer" (small shop in Germany, the only place on ebay that shipped to my country for reasonable price).
It's nowhere near mint and the battery couldn't be more dead, but the machine is a beast. Also got a 320GB HDD inside instead of 250GB as listed, so that's something.
That's pretty much my experience.
>>54545886
Dualcore i7s are shit. They run hotter and kill battery for minimal gain. If you aren't/can't go quadcore, just stick to an i5.
>>54545899
so the i5-2540M (2.6GHz)?
>>54545940
Yes, or you step up to the W520 and get the quad core i7. But those in good condition with a 1080p screen go for $400+.
Is it normal that my X220 is running slow as hell and hot as balls with something as simple as Cave Story?
>>54545976
Thanks. I won't go for the W-series though, I need a good laptop, not a desktop replacement
So i fucked up and reinstalled windows because i had a german version of windows on my new thinkpad t420 and i installed an english version from a cd and fucked up the Q drive, now it doesnt activate this windows and i can't get the old back, is there a way to get an english factory reset cd for my thinkpad?
>>54546714
Keys are region locked iirc
>>54546778
So... can i get a german version and download the english laguage pack?
>>54542314
They seem to have made the P series their discrete GPU models
>>54543053
t450 trackpad is what you can put in
>13,3" 1080p, i5-6200U, 8 GB, 265GB SSD, backlit keyboard etc
>1Gbps, 802.11ac, Bluetooth 4.1, HDMI, VGA, WiDi
>same price as XPS13
pros
>max 20GB
>DDR fucking 4
>even has room for optical drive
>GORGEOUS IGZO panel
>3x USB 3.0 rather than only 2
>SmartSlot for even more ports
>one of the lightest with only 1.19kg (2.62lbs)
>encrypted hdd
>intergrated fingerprint sensor
>12 hour battery life with active use
>windows 10 pro
>gorgeous logo
>width x length footprint is smaller than most 13,3" laptops
cons
>26.2mm (others are ~18-20mm, XPS13 is 15mm)
considering buying it
>>54548005
the XPS13 has an IGZO panel too. At least i thought it did
>>54548005
>cons
>no fucking service manual
>hard, if not impossible to get parts
>>54548076
>service manual
the biggest laptopparts webshop here has all the parts for all the Fujitsu models.
>>54548126
100% plastic chassis as well
acer build quality
is the X61 IBM or Lenovo? I seem to see X61 models from both companies
Isn't it X61 Lenovo
X60 IBM
>>54548141
"sturdy magnesium housing and aluminum palm rest"
acer build quality is actually one of the best for mainstream consumer laptops. <$700 acer is 10x better than Asus, Toshiba and Lenovo. Both in term of mainstream design and build quality in general. Can't say anything about Acer's build quality for higher-end laptops though.
>>54548036
you're right. I thought the XPS13 had a high-end IPS panel. The Razer Blade also uses IGZO btw
>>54548285
It's all Lenovo. Part of the deal was that IBM would keep their branding on Thinkpads for a couple years after the acquisition, so even though you can find *60 Thinkpads with the IBM logo and even some rare *61s, they're both Lenovo Thinkpads through and through.
>>54548303
You're either being ironic or retarded.
>>54548333
oh, I understand. So that's what they meant by keeping the IBM logo after acquisition. I thought Lenovo passed up that offer. all together.
In that case what was the last true IBM line?
>>54548437
<$700
acer: above average build quality and design
asus: VERY soft plastic, huge screen flex, good design
lenovo: HUGE keyboard flex, meh design and meh plastic quality
toshiba: ugliest design, easily scratch-able, sturdy tho
can't say anything about HP, because we barely had any in the store when I worked at an electronics store
>>54548504
T43/p, X32, and X41 were the last Thinkpads made by IBM.
>>54548567
thanks
>>54548545
>above average quality
When I was asked to repair an Acer with a broken screen, I also opened for cleaning. The whole chassis was made of plastic. What kind of build quality is that?
>>54548741
acer is the best choice from Walmart by far
Comparing it to business lines is another story
>>54548796
You worked at walmart kek
Say I want to connect a 100W solar panel to my X220. I won't fry it, would I? 19V 5.3A
http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-ZBook-15-G3-Workstation-Review.162600.0.html
Zbook g3? Could be nice for doing engineering school work.
>>54548911
forgot pic
>>54548911
That's not how you solar panel.
Panel->Battery->Proper outlet with power regulations->Anything else, like X220
>>54549444
this
you dont just plug shit directly into a panel. You CAN, but it's much safer to store the power and regulate it separately for whatever you need it for.
>>54548826
that wasn't me. I worked at a high-end local electronics store. The laptop department was very consumer-aimed tho. The average sold laptop was $600
>>54540799
I don't know if you noticed, but Lenovo Settings now allows setting charging thresholds
>>54548567
>made by IBM
Designed by IBM, but not made by them.
>>54548567
yet, newer ThinkPads are still being designed in US(Morrisville) and Japan(The Yamato Lab).
Any comments on these pieces of hardware?
It's for a W520.
>>54550781
>not getting 32gb of ram (4x8gb)
>>54550781
I see no problems. that's all good shit.
>>54550826
He may not need it.
>>54550600
why would you want a charging treshold?
Some of the indicator LEDs on my X60 no longer work. I tried replacing the LCD cable assembly and it is still broken. Anyone know what I can do?
>>54550605
Friendly reminder that all ThinkPads are made in China nowadays ;_;
>>54550692
Under the command of chinks that want the Apple audience, sadly.
>>54550826
>>54550839
I may do in the future, the W520 is coming with an i7-2860QM. Would it realistically be able to make use of 32GB RAM before the CPU reaches it's 'peak', so to speak?
>>54550863
extends battery life substantially
>>54550965
No, not unless you're doing multiple VM's which isn't even touching the CPU, just using RAM
>>54550605
that's the case for everything really
>>54550965
if you run VMs it will.
>>54550975
>>54551045
Thanks, that's interesting to know - I didn't realise that VMs were mainly dependant on RAM, generally speaking. (I thought they would perhaps be equally as intensive on the CPU)
>>54551045
do people still virtualize and compile locally in 2016?
>>54550600
Is this also for Linux?
>>54551106
>VMs were mainly dependant on RAM
VMs allocate away a portion of your system memory to run the guest OS. They're not shared.
So, if you want your guest OS to see/use 4GB of RAM, while it's running your host OS will always be 4GB short.
If you run multiple VMs this really adds up.
CPU, on the other hand, is shared, you do not need to dedicate cores to the VM guest.
>>54551106
Only if you're maxing out the CPU in the VMs, but if you're just running a bunch of OSes, a sandy Bridge i7 will handle a shit ton before it even hiccups if you've got the RAM.
>>54551184
>>54551186
Interesting stuff, I figured that was how RAM was managed but I wasn't too sure how CPU resources were allocated - I've never really looked into it.
When I have a system like a W520 I'm sure that I'll want to play around with VMs at one point anyway... 16GB will be fine for the moment though.
Any of these fuckers good for gaming? Mostly want to emulate PS2/Wii stuff with a 2x upscale so it doesn't look like complete shit.
>>54551320
Buy a wii or ps2 for nothing instead of a thinkpad.
>>54541280
Bunch of Gentoomen with dankpads and a douchebag with a portable rice machine.
Anyone here have an Elitebook? Are they worth it?
Is it possible to setup JBOD which can be seen by both Windows and Linux? Hoping this can be done on my W530 that's coming.
Why aren't you using a Pentium 4 Thinkpad?
>>54551419
pretty decent machines, can't go wrong
>>54552063
Because fuck you, that's why.
>>54551028
see:
>>54550923
Made BY IBM compared with Made FOR IBM
>>54552063
>Northwood
>130nm in size
>Not even 64 bit
Gross.
>>54552079
>>54552198
/tpg/ is a safe space, no fat shaming please
What's the smallest a think pad can be made ? No monitor and such
Get that and out it in a DK1 dude! Is genius!
>>54550692
.maybe the case design, but all the PCB layout and electrical design is done by Wistron in Taiwan.
>>54552215
There is when it's morbidly obese...
>>54552215
You call that thick?
Well I haven't got WiFi or my CD drive working...
But I did get this to work! Huzzah!
[Spoiler]subscribe to my blog[/spoiler]
[Spoiler]I might be sticking with Windows for a while[/spoiler]
>>54552354
Also I'm gonna kick the Clover devs' asses for not implementing spoilers yet.
>>54552279
Name of laptop?
Im buying a t420 for $150 on craigslist the guy told me that it holds its charge for 5 hours. Is this bullshit?
>>54552405
Plausible with 9 cell battery
I have an X220t and I recently reinstalled Windows 10. Wacom pressure sensitivity worked perfectly on my previous install but its not working now. The touch drivers from Lenovo's website give me some kind of 'no such device found' error. Could anyone help me out?
t420 or thinkpad edge
>>54552623
Never Edge series. Not even once.
>>54552378
>>54552354
>newfags
>>54545083
It's not like the price of a cheap old ThinkPad would make a dent on the likely price of those retro new ones. Buy it, and then the new one if you can afford it *and* if Lenovo somehow doesn't fuck it up.
I hope they make just a different shell for one of their newer planars, that would make the project more viable. One can dream, right?
>>54548005
I'm afraid I'm addicted to the TrackPoint.
I can't live without it anymore; when I use a mouse, it feels awkward. I'm always trying to use the stick even on keyboards without it; and I got used to the low profile keys.
>>54548333
I'm pretty sure even some T43 units were already made by Lenovo. Who knows for how long they were making the "IBM" ThinkPads.
>>54550605
Look what I found on the archives.
>>54552063
My brother has my A31p on his home, with the UltraBay Numpad and a WorkPad c505.
It's slow, but glorious 1600x1200 panel is glorious. It's a wonderful DOS games machine.
>>54547111
ah I meant the P50 and P70. The T450P is still a T series
Found this puppy at a relative's house, but I've already got my t420. Any suggestions?
>>54554461
Sell it. I have two of 'em, and they're junk even on Linux.
>>54554461
specs?
>>54554496
Not sure. Haven't powered it up
>>54554461
if it works and it's got one of the higher resolution displays it can be worth money, otherwise it's probably not worth too much.
>>54554554
How much?
>>54554634
$150+ easy if its in any decent shape and has a 1400x1050 screen.
I love my x220
>>54555029
Put your taskbar on small icons, I've got a cucked 768p and it helpsgive you some height. Nice X220.
>>54555029
I know how you feel.
installing pc-bsd on my t400. what do?
>>54555226
Enjoy.
>>54555245
will zfs fuck up my ssd?
>>54555523
I used to run defraggler like an idiot on my old SSDs before I realized they dony need it and they were fine, no reason zfs should hurt it.
>>54555245
pretty comfy
>just got T420
>tfw using in bed with danklight
>if I need to get up laptop doubles as a flashlight
Is there a comfier feeling /g/?
>>54556085
What are those disk speeds I spy in the corner? Nice T420.
>>54556085
I'll be joining you on tuesday. I already got an x220 for my mom. Bought myself a T420 for linux tomfoolery and shitposting in bed.
>>54556094
An image on another thread actually.
And thanks. This thing is practically mint. I bought it off a guy who got one a few months ago but had to leave the country and sold it for $150. I'll post more pics later I guess
Right now I'm thinking of getting a screen upgrade, not sure which of the 1600x900s to go for (Alienware or X1 Carbon)
Refurbished t420 for $300 (after currency conversion, I live in SEA) with a year's warranty.
What do you think? Is it worth it? This is the first one I found with a warranty.
I'd probably upgrade RAM to 8 and get an SSD.
>>54556447
>Warranty
It's a thinkpad, you don't need that, go save some cash.
>>54556085
Just wait till the bedbugs come out.
>>54556085
e-money is that you?
anyone here have any experience with a msata ssd in a t420?
was there a card in the msata/epci slot?
read somewhere that a bluetooth card or wwan card takes up that slot
>>54556478
Nope, decided it was cheaper to buy an $8 ultrabay and pop a $55 240GB SATA SSD in it.
>>54556478
a wwan card takes up the slot, its also only sata 2 so you will get lower speeds.
>>54556478
Its noticeably faster than a 7200rpm hard drive int he main bay. You dont get the full speed, but its definitely better.
>>54556457
Thing is, I won't find t420s for any cheaper, living here. The cheapest thing I can find is a x220 for $200.
>>54556558
If that's the cheapest T420, pick it up, because that isn't a bad price if they're pricey in SEA.
>>54556515
was hoping to have the optical drive with a hdd
>>54556534
i dont mind the lower speed
it'll still be faster than a hdd
but i dotn want to take out the wwan card : /
>>54556549
yea thats what i was thinking
>>54556755
You can, primary SSD in the drive bay. Ultrabay with DVD drive, 2ndary ultrabay with HDD or another SSD.
The ultrabay is meant to be hotsawppable, just pull the lever and pull it out then slot the other one in.
I highly doubt you need the DVD drive in all the time.
>>54556795
yea i know its easy to swap it
its just for when i travel home and dont want a dvd drive or hdd sitting outside of the laptop
I love my T420!
>>54556534
Aw shit, really? That's a bummer, this whole time I thought the WWAN was a separate slot
Aren't there other Thinkpads set up that way? How does an X220 have room for both but not the T420?
>>54557148
There are expresscard WWANs
Stupid question, is it possible to get rid of this stupid fucking always-on USB port in my X220T and replace it with a USB 3.0 port?
>>54556534
So wait, does that mean you can't have Wifi and an SSD at once outside of main bay/ultrabay? Megagay.
>>54557280
Wifi is a separate card. Wifi is not WWAN. Wifi is WLAN.
>>54556478
WWAN is like, 3G/phone network data connections and shit. You probably don't use that on your laptop, do you?
If you think it's Wifi, see >>54557325
>>54548005
That keyboard layout looks fucking dumb a shit
>no trackpoint
>glossy display
>obviously prosumer
why is it here.
>>54553173
Yes, that was during part of the acquisition. Arguably, Lenovo made the X41 Tablet.
>>54554461
Toss a T7700 on that thing
>get a Ti PowrBook
>shit is hotter than a Pentium 4 or X61 without the wifi swap
at least it can somehow manage internets
>>54557381
>TiBook
nice machine if you can find one in good condition. Mine has either a bad charger or bad power board because of how hot it gets in that corner.
>>54557251
pls respond
I got myself a German t420 and it came with the German key layout. Are there spare keycaps available for purchase somewhere?
>>54557499
>needs to look at the keys to type
>>54557447
No.
Just get a X230 or buy an expresscard USB 3.0 port
>>54557415
Yeah... its not bad that but I was quite surprised.
>>54557499
just buy an entire replacement keyboard off ebay
they're usually 5-10$ and will contain all the keys you need, plus some spare parts for later
>>54557565
Yeah, it makes a good OS9 game machine. I got tired of listening to my G4 tower's fan.
>>54557515
>wanting your ThinkPad to say QWERTZ
You might as well make it pink with vomit green because you're only looking at the screen, right?
>>54557346
yea that was my bad thought wifi was wwan
that put my mind at ease about putting in a msata ssd
just need to install a os
cant wait for my t420 to arrive thursday
What's the best Thinkpad to buy for photographers/digital artists? I have an X220T and the GPU is horrible for anything that requires even a little bit of GPU.
>>54557932
How is the x220t for digital art? I've been thinking about picking one up.
>>54557982
The pen is actually really great. The screen maybe doesn't feel as smooth as writing on a Wacom pad, but it's actually pretty good. Keep in mind though that you're buying Intel HD 3000 GPU and Intel have stopped supporting it now
>>54557997
Thanks. I'll be buying one when I finally get my tax return to draw animu gurls shoving avocados in each others butts on the go.
As for >>54557932, a popular thing fags in these threads do is eGPU through the expresscard slot. If using the thinkpad for graphic stuff is so important you might consider it.
how do I go on about using a new battery? charge it completely then use as normal, right? I know completely power cycling Li-ion batteries is bad in general, but does that also apply for just starting off?
also a reminder to new Thinkpad users - if you just bought anything from series ending with a 20 (or older), your battery should be eligible for a free replacement from Lenovo
pic related - my used £150 X220's only problem was short battery life, but Lenovo fixed it for me FOR FREE
>>54558508
how do i go about getting a replacement battery for the used t420 i just ordered?
>>54558527
just ordered, as in you haven't received it yet?
if you run windows you can use https://download.lenovo.com/lenovo/content/rojo/LenovoBattery.exe to automatically get battery's serial code, check if it's eligible for a replacement and if so, send a request to Lenovo
otherwise just go to https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/documents/hf004122 and do it manually :)
I feel like this info should be added to the OP, if anything that's a big selling point, especially for people who complain about shit batteries in used laptops
ThinkPad T430 in excellent condition:
i5-3320M(3.3GHz), 4GB RAM, 500GB 7200rpm HD, 14in 1600x900 LCD, Intel HD Graphics, DVD, Intel 802.11agn wireless, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure Chip, Fingerprint reader, Camera, 6c Li-Ion, Win7 Pro 64
AND...
6-cell standard battery (measured 4% wear on it) PLUS the 9-cell extended slice (measured 3% wear on it).
$219 at a pawn shop earlier today.
So tell me, /g/men of the /tpg/, did I finally do good? Haven't owned a ThinkPad in many a year but when I saw this beauty - hasn't got a fucking mark on it, not a speck of dirt or dust either, it's just gorgeous - I could not pass it up.
I think I did fucking spectacular, right? Right?
Right?
>>54558575
p. cool
now slap xubuntu on it and install all the thinkpad shit like tlp and enjoy your 15h battery use
>>54558609
Only 15? Geez, with my Dell Latitude E6400 + 9-cell + 12-cell slice I get 18+ and that's a 6 year old laptop and the batteries have like 35% wear on 'em. When the whole setup was new I could run at 40% brightness with a custom battery profile for 24 fuckin' hours continuous with normal usage.
Fuck man, you'd think technology would have improved in the past 6 years, guess not.
>>54558634
sorry, meant to say 15+h
just guesstimating, really, and I was only talking about a single battery
with my x220 on a 6 cell I'd probably get around 15h (though I try not to let it go below 20%), so I've based it on that
>>54558508
How did you do it, m8? I have a used x220, too. And I actually bought a replacement battery already and I would be pleased to get a third one.
>>54558674
Fellow x220 (well x220t) owner here, thinking of installing Xubuntu on my new SSD to dual boot with Windows for my gaymen. Ya or na?
>>54558634
>9 cell + 12 cell versus 6 cell + 9 cell
gee i wonder which battery is gonna last longer
>>54558571
heres to hoping the t420 i ordered comes with the oem battery
>>54558739
Here's to hoping so does my x220t
>>54558698
imo it hits the *buntus sweet spot when it comes to features/performance. don't have an SSD (yet), but Xubuntu experience is already pleasing enough, so I can wholeheartedly recommend it, especially that it will be even snappier on a solid-state
you'll definitely want to install tlp if you want good battery life though, have a look here: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
btw, I'm also dualbooting with Windows that came with the laptop, surprised it managed to run Starcraft II well enough to complete the whole SC1 remake campaign
>>54558683
have a read here:
https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/documents/hf004122
if you're on windows you can use https://download.lenovo.com/lenovo/content/rojo/LenovoBattery.exe to make the whole process automatic (and apparently Lenovo's processing should be quicker than doing a manual submission, too)
>buy a t420 a couple of days ago
>yesterday a new t420 ad pops up with the exact same item description but with another name but same location and all
welp
>>54558855
sooo... you got scammed, or what?
>>54558855
d-d-dispute
>>54558146
>draw animu gurls shoving avocados in each others butts
Neat.
>>54559331
guess i'll find out next week if it arrives or not. gotta admit i'm somewhat excited to take legal action against someone.
>>54559447
I mean, Paypal is a cunt to deal with so have fun
>>54559447
guessing it's ebay - isn't it just one of those semi-pro resellers who buy lots of shit and then sell 1 at a time? I've seen a few sellers where when selling the same product they just stick the same photos and description, even if the individual products have different condition status
I'm planning to buy a t420. If I'm upgrading the ram and hd, should I go with chinese parts?
>>54559563
>chinese parts
by that do you mean generic no names?
personally the price difference usually isn't that large so I'd usually go for a brand name, but it depends I guess
If I buy a laptop with comptrace on what do I do to keep from getting locked out?
>>54559482
really?
i thought paypal sides with the buyer majority of the time
Does anyone know how to set up temperature monitoring on an X201 Tablet under Manjaro? On Windoze I'd just fire up Speedfan, but that doesn't seem to be an option.
>>54559679
The issue with Computrace is that you may be buying STOLEN FUCKING PROPERTY. You don't want to get in trouble, now do you?
>>54559803
Doesn't answer my question.
>>54559819
Fuck off Jamal, give the thinkpad back.
>>54559834
Shut up fag, this is a legitimate question.
>>54559852
No it's not muhammad, fuck off.
>>54559679
>>54559852
>>54559819
why would you become locked out in first place?
>>54559852
Well who are you buying it from? If it's coming direct from a school or business then it shouldn't be an issue, just get them to disable Computrace beforehand. If it's from some random guy, then he probably stole it from a school or business.
>>54559900
Thank you.
>>54545744
For real? I've got no idea what my t420s' battery condition is at, but I get at least an hour and a half in linux mint whilst browsing and watching youtube videos 1080p 60fps. If I browse 4chan or watch movies on VLC I get around 2,5-3 hours out of a charge.
Still shit tho, might get an ultrabay battery.
waiting
waiting
waiting
for t420 in mail
>>54545868
desu I'd prefer an i7 in my x220, then I'd have a USB3 port built in :L
>>54551173
fucking hell, don't want to be a dick, but really - lurk more
linux had the option as far as I remember, it's even mentioned in this very thread: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
>>54557499
can't you just swap Z and Y around? or do you want all the special chars to be different too?
>>54558698
if you want to use your tablet functions, maybe stock ubuntu would be better? I mean, unity is designed with touch in mind, I think
i bought a refurbished t400+docking station for 163 EUR (incl. shipping). P8600, 1440×900, 160 GB HDD, 4GB RAM.
did i do good?
Anyone know where I can get rubber feet replacements for t420s?
I'm assuming it's the same as a t420, but I'm not certain.
>>54540814
I found pajeet
>>54555029
>16:9
>not putting taskbar on the left
>>54543699
T430 owner here. Silent as fuck for normal use. During gaming (Civilization 3 and 4), the noise, if any, is drowned out by the sounds from the game.
>>54561366
>taskbar on the left
Found the unityfag. Leave immediately.
Has anyone got the tablet functions and such on the X220T working on GNU/Linux? I think I installed something from the AUR that fixed the stylus button so it was right click instead of middle click, and it made two finger scrolling on the screen work (although it's very choppy and not even really worth using)
I would now like to get the tablet buttons for 180 degree rotate and portrait mode to work. I think there's also an auto rotate feature that uses an accelerometer, but I never had Windows on this thing so I don't know for sure.
>>54546092
>slow as hell
did you install the proper gpu driver?
>hot as balls
that's odd..
>>54548005
Is this just a laptop general now? No offense but that doesn't even have a pointing stick on the keyboard, the bare minimum for an enterprise notebook. I don't really see it being relevant.
>>54556110
>I already got an x220 for my mom.
Provide details.
My mom has an HP G62 from 6-7 years ago with a 1st gen i3 with a busted charger. She needs a laptop for emails, movies/TV shows and light games (cards etc.). Was thinking of getting her an X230 but I'm not sure if she'll be comfortable with the screen size. How does your mom like the X220?
>>54551320
I've heard that emulation is pretty cpu intensive, so I guess maybe look up if the w520 runs Dolphin well
>>54561366
I have tried this but at least in win 10 the taskbar is way to big. needs to be the same height as when its on the bottom otherwise it's just wasting space
repost from /csg/
>>54543381
if you thought about buying cheap chinese mSATA SSD, think again.
>>54561612
So far she seems to like it, she actually prefer the smaller size as she is coming from a refurbished mid 2008 17" HP.
Overall the x220 is great for her once I put an SSD in there, made it nice and snappy, with the HDD it was a bit too slow for every day use, at least in my opinion.
>>54561629
You can resize it.
>>54561709
Just did that and this is as far as it will go. What I want is for the time to be show in vert, along with the date and to cut of the year, then all the icons can just be arranged in a vertical line. With that you could probably get it down to the width of the program icons. I have no fucking idea how to make this happen though. When I get an Msata drive i might throw some flavor of linux on and see if thats any better.
>>54561756
>>54561709
and of course i forgot the picture
>>54561679
What does she normally use it for?
>>54561774
Email, web browsing (youtube, facebook, etc), some sharepoint and access as well.
Nothing too intense.
>>54561788
Pretty much what my mom should use it for as well. I guess I'll have her check both out before buying.
The fuck
>>54562493
>Delete right next to the fucking backspace
Not even HP Pavilions are this bad.
>>54562463
is this the t440 touchpad, if so its pretty well known to be shit and you can swap it with the t450 one.
>>54562530
no dedicated home or end either which is just as disgusting.
>>54562577
Look at where the capslock would be.
