GTX 1080
>"When Huang pulled up the GPU's stats, it was running at 2.1 GHz and the memory was running at 5.5 GHz. That's faster than any GPU today, except for one of its last generation cards with liquid nitrogen cooling. Most remarkable? The 1080 was just just relying on air cooling. It was running at 67 celsius"
>$700
What's the catch?
>>54464540
>What's the catch?
/g/ will be filled with buttmad amd posters for another product cycle
The catch is the 980 cost $550 and now you're being double jewed
7.5
Early DX12 results looks pretty meh
>2016
>16 nm
no freedom
>>54464540
The catch is that none of it is real yet. We didn't see it running on stage. We don't have any verified performance numbers. A lot of Huang's bluster from the press conference has been revealed as marketing BS, like his line about it having "twice the power of Titan X", later clarified to mean in extremely specific VR scenarios.
The whole thing stinks of huge letdown. Good thing Nvidia got all the tech reviewers onside by giving them an all expenses paid trip to Texas. They even flew the guy from TweakTown all the way from Australia to be there.
I wonder if there's as much oc headroom left as with 980 ti, which ocs really well.
You may end up paying a lot more money for what is essentially highly factory oc'd 980 ti with some extra support for VR.
The same goes for 1070. To me they look pricey and probably not worth upgrading from 980 ti or even 980. 1080 ti is probably really fast but I'm betting it'll cost $700+ or something. I mean...you can get a whole computer for the price of one 1080/ti...
>>54464540
>What's the catch?
that it is only 10% faster than a 980ti, and not even that if you overclock.
And once AMD comes out with Polaris 10, they'll slash the prices in half.
Did they compare it to last gen cards at stock or oc?
>>54464832
Stock of course. They want that gap as large as possible, so comparing it to a 980 Ti at 1500MHz would be stupid.
No hardware async compute, probably performs like a dog in DX12. Will get crippled once volta comes out.
You know, the usual nvidia business procedures.
Reviews supposed to be coming out on May 17, guess we'll see how many truths and lies there are on that day
>>54465000
It's going to be such a shit show from all of the hype they raised when the reviews roll in.
>>54464540
That's equiv to a 300mhz OC from 1.2ghz
ie what could already be done.
>b-but muh numbers
Yeah and Pentium 4 sold at 3.8ghz
>>54465336
For sure, but atleast we'll finally get some numbers regarding whether the comparisons with the 980 SLI and Titan X are with the 2.1GHz or normal clocks... and hell, if the 67C they got in the presentation is true from air cooling and not having some AC blowing air directly to it
>>54465431
My guess is it was open bench in a fridge surrounded by Delta fans
>>54464892
Just wait for Volta then and you should be fine. That's my recommendation.
both are only a 10% improvement over their predecessors in most video games
>>54465000
>>54465336
>review come out
>shit performance
B-but the driver is not mature enough!
>>54464540
>What's the catch?
it's fucking shit
>muh 8 jigguhurtz
doesn't mean anything
>that AMD butthurt in this thread
>>54464755
/thread
>>54465407
>1.2GHz + 300MHz = 2.1GHz
>>54465642
>DX12 IS JUST SHIT!
does anyone know if it'll be usable on win7 64?
as i've not seen anything about what os it's compatible with
>>54464540
>What's the catch?
gimped memory bandwidth.
When reviews come out, look carefully at exactly what scenarios are being tested.
For early access reviews, news sources are usually "gently encouraged" to focus their comparisons in certain directions.
The 1080/1070 will look notably better than 980Ti only in a small subset of potential use cases.
>>54465887
no chance
>>54465887
for DX11, almost certainly.
for DX12, definitely not. (thanks, Redmond kikes)
for Vulkan, maybe if you're lucky
>>54464540
>clock speed
>relevant
>>54464540
>What's the catch?
It's lithed on 16nm vs 28nm for previous generation.
>>54465469
Not that anon, but that's exactly what I will do.
>>54465943
ye well it's the os compatibility that's most important
>>54466161
well, Window 8 is dogshit, and it's extremely unlikely that they would support only the latest OS version, free update shit or no.
>>54465827
1.5ghz / 1.2ghz = 2.1ghz / 1.7ghz
>>54465887
Nvidia releases drivers all the way down to XP and they all include improvements, the 750Ti which is one of the most popular budget cards is more used in China and they all run XP there.
>>54464540
paper launch
>>54464540
>paying top dollar for an overclocked version of last gen cards
>still no hardware async compute
>still low dx12 performance
>as low as 90fps while playing single player doom @ 1080p with a couple of particle effects on screen
hahahaha ishygddt
>>54466751
>paying top dollar for an overclocked version of last gen cards
Die-shrink and different architecture, dumbass
>still no hardware async compute
It has an even more powerful software async support than GCN's hardware async capabilities according to the benchmarks from AMD-sponsored AotS DX12 tests.
>still low dx12 performance
Slaughters any card at DX12 and trades blows with the $1500 Radeon Pro card.
>as low as 90fps while playing single player doom @ 1080p with a couple of particle effects on screen
Never happened, faggot
>>54464540
the "Air cooling" didn't specify if the cooler was aftermarket or not, or if the overclock is typical form reference designs/coolers
There's no catch, there's no catch, OK? Da GTX 1080 is DA best gpu ever made, it's da best gpu ever made and it's so powerful it's irresponsible.
>>54466794
>different architecture
maxwell die shrink counts as a new arch? awesome shilling dude
>It has an even more powerful software async support than GCN's hardware
no, just... just no...
>Slaughters any card at DX12
"can't wake up"
>Never happened, faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6kBCoDOakE
pic related, and that's on vulkan!
in summation, very bad damage control, please re-read "how to shill" papers your agent has handed to you or you might lose your compensation
>>54466908
There are no aftermarket coolers for this card right now so they had to use the reference one.
The "over clock" was the boost clock, it goes higher than stated on the bios if the chipset and asic quality and temperature allow it.
the boost clock advertised is just the guaranteed boost, all cards have different max boost clocks
>>54466974
>dat sick performance
can't fucking wait to get my hands on one.
>>54466993
do we have evidence of the card having a reference cooler? EVGA usually gets first dibs on GPU cooler design from NVidia, wouldn't be surprised it the show unit was running a pre production cooler.
as for the boost clock, what do you think the typical boost will be? usually NVidia chips do slightly better than the advertised guaranteed boost, with some golden chips going into crazy clock speeds.
>>54467024
>150fps at 1080p on an indoor static scenario is awesome performance
Sweet jesus, you "guys" are beyond damage control now? Resorting to ignoring reality from now on?
Hey mods clean this shit up, please!
>>54467127
why you mad bro? i can say whatever the fuck i want. you got a problem?
i'll be buying 2 1070 in SLI. you gonna cry now? awww :((
>>54467053
Evidence? vendors usually take one or two months to release cards with aftermarket coolers for new GPU lines ups.
A bunch of companies (Gigabyte, Zotac Chill) have announce their 1080 cards and all use reference cooler.
as for boost, aftermarket cards will have higher base clocks and higher boost too as they come overclocked by factory, boost is not a conventional overclock, it s very conservative, a normal overclock could nail you higher clocks by almost 100mhz or more, My GTX 970 does 1405 boost and can OC to 1519mhz with the same voltage.
>>54466794
>Slaughters any card at DX12 and trades blows with the $1500 Radeon Pro card.
In Ashes of Singularity the 1080 gets lower score than a single Fury X.
The NVidia presentation highly overstated how powerful the 1070/1080 is. All the benchmarks leaked so far do not show the amount of performance boost they said there.
They'll probably end up gimping drivers again for the 1080 to really get 70% on the Titan X.
>amd
Incoming damage control.
>>54467188
>All the benchmarks leaked so far
Homie, gonna need some sauce with that nugget.
>>54467175
>i can suck how many cocks as i want. you got a problem?
Nah man, it's cool. Just don't get near me, I don't wanna catch that shit too, it rottens your brain and hinders your ability to think properly and act like a normal human adult.
>>54467188
>AMD sponsored game
well whaddya know.
>it's ok when amd does it
>stardock devs admit to only be optimizing for gcn and their compute engines
>>54467127
do we have any other cards performance while the game is uncapped? I wouldn't call it bad until we see those numbers
>>54467199
my 290X seems fine driver wise. did they fuck up the 390 specifically?
>>54467176
that was why I mentioned the card's cooler being preproduction. as in, not announced yet.
>>54467263
>being this MAD
awwwwwwwwwwww is the amd babby getting all salty :(
boo hoo :'((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
>>54467298
>>54467263
would you both shut up?
>>54467230
We got 3dmark scores, and the 1080 shows up on the Ashes of Singularity benchmark board.
The 1080 is something like 20% better than a stock 980ti, with OC the 980ti equals the 1080. In Ashes, the 1080 scores a bit faster than a Fury X (depending on resolution, in 1080p it is better, in 4k it is worse).
>>54467270
The difference is when Nvidia sponsors a game, you get Arkham Knight.
I'm currently using a GTX 760 4GB overclocked. Should I upgrade when the new cards release non-reference?
>>54467332
that's still pretty damn good for the price
nowhere near the hype graphs they were churning out, but still worth the money.
>>54467306
mate, look at my original post >>54467024. i was commenting on that top performance which is totally unrelated to none of the fanboy shit. this other guy is clearly buttblasted im not some poorfag indian like him and can afford top level hardware instead of some 5 year old curry stain rebranded hardware. you can see the salt in his posts. its fucking glorious.
>>54467349
repends on what you're looking at
1070? yeah grab them as soon as the non-reference designs come out
1080? are you buying for the top card, or is it just within your budget? if it's your pick due to budget, go non-reference 1080, if it's "want top card" buy now or buy when the Ti comes out
Is it worth upgrading from my r9 270x to a 1070?
>bought a 970 for $270 shortly after release.
>3.5GB became public.
>pangs of regret washed over me.
I only play at 1080p anyway so it isn't that much of a problem.
Not going to upgrade until the 3rd or 4th gen of this round of VR anyway so by that time the gtx 1270 will be the sweet spot card to get.
>>54464540
>What's the catch?
Absolutely no hw async
>>54467407
I thought async was included in the press documents after launch?
>>54467416
it does support hardware async compute. a few of the youtubers at the event have confirmed it
>>54467298
> muh projections: the post
>>54467463
strange how it wasn't mentioned in the event
I blame Tom
>>54467463
they've been bought familia
>>54467298
>can't handle facts
>resorts to shitposting
>irrelevant sad pic
>bunch of smiles in salty text
>still thinks he is succeeding in whatever
I'm the mad one? Please take your pills...
>>54464540
>mfw I buy a 980ti or two for $400 in the coming weeks as Nviditards try to upgrade
[I don't have many reaction faces, so here's a picture of a girl who was probably BLACKED]
>>54467496
where are the facts? all i see is butthurt :(
>>54467127
>>54467263
>mfw my purchases are making and amdrone consider suicide because his beloved amd have lost a valuable customer
feels good
![e4a829e2-502a-42d4-898f-f3169442026b-bestSizeAvailable[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/DBc2C6T.png "e4a829e2-502a-42d4-898f-f3169442026b-bestSizeAvailable[1].png")
>>54467332
>3dmark scores
boyyyyy
>>54464540
>What's the catch?
None
Its a MAJOR die shrink the fuck did you expect?
>>54464629
AMD parts are out next month
>>54464789
This
It is tweaked and die shrunk Maxwell which didn't scale worth a shit with overclocks anyways.
>tfw still using a 660ti
>>54467332
>The difference is when Nvidia sponsors a game, you get Arkham Knight.
what about hitman?
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/hitman-dx12-support-is-broken-for-some-but-theres-a-temp-fix/
http://www.pcgamer.com/hitman-directx-12-support-broken-in-latest-update/
http://n4g.com/news/1876166/hitman-directx-12-mode-is-unstable-causes-crashes
what how you blame arkham knight on nvidia and you blame hitman on the devs. double standards everywhere.
>>54467582
watch*
>>54467537
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6kBCoDOakE
>my purchases are making and amdrone consider suicide
Are we even on the same reality plane? How did those posts led you to believe in that? Can you assess your surroundings? You might need some autism pills.
>>54467582
fallout, just cause, any assasin's creed game. In fact the new tomb raider runs much worse than the previous amd backed one. There are more games which run like dicks thans acceptably on gameworks than otherwise in the big budget titles.
Fuck me guys should I upgrade to a 1080 or buy another 780 sc acx? I find it incredibly hard to believe that the 1080 blows dual 980s out of the water. I'm looking for top performance on games like switcher 3
>>54467626
Depends on what you're running..? 4GB is getting slim these days.
Feels good not being an AMDpoorbabby
>>54467582
How is a bug preventing the game from launching on some setups that will soon be patched and doesn't effect DX11 (Nvidia cards cant do dx12 worth a shit anyways) in anyway comparable to smearing tessellation on everything to make every game you touch a slideshow.
In b4 AMD fanboy XD
I own a 780ti, Gimping is real.
>>54467582
One would think what hardware the game was built on would influence how it would play. Since some companies don't know what optimization is anymore it could be safe to say it's more about lazy devs outside of the instances of obvious hardware bias.
>>54467523
>probably
Maebe
>>54467599
>150 fps
there's the true fact. feel free to show me any video of the fury x hitting 150 fps om doom maxed out.
>Are we even on the same reality plane? How did those posts led you to believe in that? Can you assess your surroundings? You might need some autism pills.
he's still mad lmao
>>54467626
similar scenario here. thinking of grabbing a 2nd 290 as their prices are falling, but two 290s is ~980ti performance, and at that point, I should probably just sell my current 290 and grab a 1070/490
I'd say unless you get a killer deal, ditch the 780 and get a new card. a 1060 will beat your 780 and probably cost the same as a used 780
>>54467643
780s are only 3gb
>>54467650
>One would think what hardware the game was built on would influence how it would play. Since some companies don't know what optimization is anymore it could be safe to say it's more about lazy devs outside of the instances of obvious hardware bias.
i agree 100%, yet these threads are all full of retards who instead of criticizing the devs, they instead blame nvidia. they have some massive conspiracy going on which is full on double standards
>nvidia ask devs to cater their game towards things nvidia hardware is better at
>nvidia are jews
>they're gimping amd
>amd asks devs to cater their game towards things amd hardware is better at
>its ok amd are the good guys
>its ok when amd do it
and when the devs fuckup on an nvidia sponsored game its nvidia's fault. when the devs fuck up on an amd sponsored game its got nothing to do with amd
double standards. double fucking standards. fanboys are the worst i swear. i can't even have a decent conversation about anything. if i post a fucking speccy on /g/ with a 970 or any nvidia card all i'll get is >970 >nvidia xD >goyworks >sponsoring jews.
fucking hell
>>54467648
and i own a 280x, whats your point?
>>54467662
>fury x hitting 150 fps on a single player closed arena game using next a gen api at 1080p
Pretty sure you can find *multiplayer* BF4 with Mantle 1080p videos on YouTube with more than that.
>lmao
That's just sad...
>itt: damage control getting out of hand
>>54467580
I'm with you, brother. No reason to upgrade as long as I'm playing @ 1080p/60fps. I'd like to move up to 1440p/144hz when there is a card that can handle it.
You guys running like 1080p gayman or something? My 970 currently hard caps at the 3.5GB mark playing things like The Division or Paragon at 1440p. 4GB cards just ain't gonna cut it anymore.
>>54467738
I'm personally biassed to AMD at the moment, but more because I don't care for Nvidia's current business practices. There's shit I don't like AMD doing either, but that's just where I'm at right now. Things change.
>>54467770
> Pretty sure you can find *multiplayer* BF4 with Mantle 1080p videos on YouTube with more than that.
>moving the goalposts
>using an xbox 360 game as an example
>he has no video proof of a fury x getting 150 fps on doom
welp. atleast you tried
>>54467626
wait till faggot start getting cucked with 1080 and selling their gtfuckme970 3.5gb, then get two of then used fuckers dirt cheap and sli
>>54467829
I think this is the first time we've seen Doom with an uncapped framerate, period. The beta was locked to 60
>>54467829
>BF4
>xbox 360 game
BF4 is one of the most popular games out there today, so obviously it's going to be used as /the/ benchmark for videocards
>>54467829
>the 1080 is unable to run an xbox 360 game at 800x600 using an api from 2014
Great stuff comrade!
>>54467849
we don't fully know how demanding the game will be maxed out. i know even the highest end cards like the 980 ti and fury x struggled to maintain even a locked 60 at 1440p but that could also be down to shit optimization because some of the charts were giving weird results.
>>54464789
lol, an all expenses paid trip to Texas has a negative dollar value to anybody that doesn't live in a shit hole.
>>54467880
yes, but a fury x can't run bf4 at 150 fps maxed out at 1080p.
sources:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2015/06/24/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review/5
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_980_Ti_XtremeGaming/9.html
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-radeon-r9-fury-x-review
every 1080p bf4 benchmark for the fury x will put it between 80-90 fps and even with mantle it won't suddenly gain 60-70 fps.
>>54467523
Your face when the stop updating your card within the unified driver updates like all of last gen's cards.
>>54468112
>a fury x can't run bf4 at 150 fps maxed out at 1080p in an indoors location on an empty local server
you are joking right? those do 120fps on a crowded server in an indoors location
how delusional r u?
>>54468112
and before anyone says those benchmarks don't test multiplayer. here is maxed out multiplayer benchmarks. none of them show the fury x reaching 150fps. hovers between 90-110 on average with some spikes to higher frame rates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa7gJC5y4bE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBUaHgIKEGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL6XGc16WGg
>own 970
>have had it for a good year
>still feeling regret about it
>see all of this
i hope whatever amd has beats this. i don't wanna get cucked again.
>>54464540
what's the catch?
your house on fire
>>54468198
and a 980 ti gets higher. what's your point?
no one knows how demanding the doom single player is yet, retard. any multiplayer is always easier to run compared to the single player. effects, resources and assets that can kill frames in single player will all be scrapped for the multiplayer because the main priority of multiplayer is to have a streamlined experience without hitches.
>>54464540
You guys nust admit that Huang is a very good talker imo he explains stuff in a really interesting way and he seems to actually know stuff even tho much of it is probably marketing bs
>>54465943
Vulkan is already in the stack on current nvidia cards on w7.
I know because I dick around with dota.
>>54468220
still memeing the good memes/
Kinda want a 1070 but I don't want to get stuck with 7.5+.5 GB VRAM. I'll wait for 3rd parties that haven't been paid off before I decide.
>>54468273
>and a 980 ti gets higher
on mantle? i would very much like to see that
>any multiplayer is always easier to run compared to the single player
>>dynamic&animated geometry is always easier to batch render than static geometry
yeah... im leaving this thread, there is now summer levels of "not knowing what you are talking about" and still wanting to be taken seriously. have fun with your failed shilling
>>54467659
don't mind me, fellas, just bumping this gem of a post to the top of the page.
*bump*
I'm waiting for benchmarks, nvidia has a history of being dishonest and their 2x claims smell fishy since it would make zero sense to release something that power unless they're scared shitless of AMD.
much more profitable to go with the 10% performance gains over previous gen and charge top dollar for something which has the performance claim of the 1080.
doesn't add up.
>>54468357
>dynamic&animated geometry is always easier to batch render than static geometry
>all singleplayer games only use static geometry
good riddance. educate yourself before you post again.
>>54468385
>nvidia has a history of being dishonest
not so
>>54464540
>It was running at 67 celsius
inb4 fans were running at 100%
>>54464694
1080 still doesnt have "real" async compute
~10% faster than fury X on that shitty programmed alpha game called Asses of the Singularity
>>54467738
asynchronously computing is very different from tessellating things off the map to insane amounts. One is beneficial to compute while the other is blatantly bad.
>muh gigglehurts = performance
not even subtle
>>54469198
Not so much for cpus anymore, but still a thing for gpus
>>54466794
>even more powerful software async support than GCN's hardware async capabilities
What is GCN in this context?
>>54469277
Graphics Core Next, AMD's GPU architecture (compare to Nvidia's Maxwell for example)
>>54469331
Aha, I only knew the GCN abbreviation as GameCube. Now this makes a lot more sense.
founders edition = refference
wew, nvidia. wonder how many good goys are gonna choose refference over cheaper third party with not shit cooling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ0AoYSH01g
>>54469464
I'm just glad we won't have to wait months for 3rd parties
>>54469219
That's wrong. Like CPUs and GPU using the same architecture higher frequency can and usually does make a positive difference in performance but when comparing separate architectures it almost always doesn't.
>>54469678
I'm almost certain that I buy the Gigabyte or EVGA 1070.
>>54464540
you have to get a special binned chip for 2.1juggahurrz.
Is this card worth it for non-game related applications? (Deep learning specifically)
>>54469882
Nvidia had a whole press conference on deep learning a few months ago iirc
>AMD is just an anagram of MAD
>>54468580
>what is gameworks?
>what is crysis 3 Tessalation?
>what is arkham knight?
>what is 3.5
>Still using a 6770
Does this mean the 980ti will drop in price? I want them CUDA cores for rendering.
S A W N O F F CARD FROM 4 GENERATIONS AGO
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>>54467523
Not knowing who Andre Braugher is.
>>54467523
This won't happen, the prices will rise after the launch. 1000 series is expensive and won't deliver much more performance than 980Tis.
I would consider a 980Ti below 350 €, but I know that won't happen, so I go for a 1070, 'cheap' and decent enough for basic 4K performance until BigPascal.
>>54464892
>No hardware async compute
HOW?
>>54464540
The cost.
There is no game - None. That requires this kind of performance.
The only logical reason to own one is rendering.
>>54468089
I live in Texas no bully :(
>>54467831
Unless those SLI 970 cost $10 (about what it will be worth) why would you ever do this.
>>54465943
>Vulkan
>relevant
>>54470417
Nigga are you stupid? Try gaming across 6 4K monito- OH RIGHT. This is an Nvidiot card. Neeevermind. Well, at least Vega is coming out soon.
>>54470137
Left one out
>Claimed 900 series had full support of dx12 capabilities to get cucks to buy into them thinking it was future proof
>>54470417
>He doesn't use his card for rendering
>>54467831
>Doing SLI with all the stutters, etc
>Wasting electricity with 2 gpus
>Buying used and obsolete hardware from assfaggots
>Not buying the newest shit
>>54470454
If you unironically game across 6 4K monitors you have a serious problem.
>>54470530
970 SLI is the most retard thing someone can do, you only SLI when you already have the biggest GPU on the market.
>tfw amd aren't going to be releasing a card better than a fury x till vega in a year's time
>480=970 and 490=980 according to rumors
Whose dumb idea was this
But it's faster than the titan x or 2 980 in sli
>>54464540
BLUNDER OF THE YEAR!
PASCAL DOESN'T HAVE ASYNC SCHEDULER!
>>54464892
>No hardware async compute
>>54470602
Apparently the cost of the new nvidia cards have shaken up amd. They were planning on releasing polaris 10 at the $250 and $350 price points with similar performance to the 390 and 390x but with a much lower tdp. Now that the 1070 is $379 they'll be forced to drop the prices to $200 and $300 for the polaris 10 cards. Nvidia releasing these unnecessarily powerful gpus at such low price points have actually made the market better because we can get 390x/980 performance for $300 now. Gotta love market competition.
>Asynchronous compute
What does this meme mean since it is all /g/ has been talking about but I haven't even heard it mentioned at all on any previous generations.
>>54470819
>>54464892
>>54470407
>>54470706
But can it mine bitcoin?
>>54470949
>bitcoin
>gpu
Is it 2012 again?
>>54470718
>$300
>390x performance
the fucking 390x is already 20% slower than a titan x and the 1070 is supposed to be between 5 and 10 percent faster than a titan x. that puts it 30% faster than a fucking 390x(490) for only $70 more. amd needs to fire their fucking marketing team asap.nvidia have already stolen a massive amount of amds market share and it could get worse with if they flop the pricing of these new cards.
>>54464664
7.55
>>54470949
>>54470961
scrypt/etc-based altcoin*
bitcoin is mined on ASIC
>>54464789
This.
It's all over the internet because every single reviewer got paid the fuck off.
>>54464540
so much hate in this thread
>>54470976
1080 is supposed to be 30% faster than Titan X, not the 1070 senpai. (apparently it's only a 20% improvement over stock 980ti, which is garbage, especially considering how high you can oc some 980ti's)
Also, $380 for 1070 is third party suggested MSRP, (not factoring in price of cooler, OC, profit margin, etc.) $450 is the reference model, oh excuse me, "FOUNDERS EDISHUN" price.
>>54471400
>20%
Meant 10%
Why is nobody upset that pascal won't launch with an HBM2 option
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-pascal-tesla-p100-gpu,31557.html
>>54471470
after seeing HBM1 yields, no one wanted to soak up that cost into the new GPU anyway
AMD's Pro duo launched with a near 1/3 crap chips, so they gave them away at paperweights to buyers
>>54470939
Even Maxwell had async compute engines my friend. What Maxwell and Pascal lack is called scheduler. Maxwell and Pascal can have a software scheduler, but this means Nvidia can gimp it as they see fit, so Maxwell users are fucked and Pascal users will be fucked once Volta comes out.
>>54471513
>after seeing HBM1 yields, no one wanted to soak up that cost into the new GPU anyway
Where are you getting that information from? It wouldn't be using HBM1 anyways, so I don't know why you said this at all.
>>54464540
it still might not have a-sync support
you have to pay the nvidia tax for an adaptive sync display
your card may fry itself with new drivers
your card will lose driver support and performance potentially much sooner than with an AMD card
>>54471400
Read properly.
>>54470651
>upgrading for 10% performance gain
wew lads
>>54471595
its a nvidicuck meme, not really true
they are still on suicide watch for the lack of HBM failure
>>54470651
I understand where they got these rankings from. Looks to me like it was being pretty spanked by Fury X. What am I missing?
>>54472068
Shit.
I meant I DON'T understand
>>54471470
because we already knew Nvidia couldn't get its hands on HBM (1 or 2) due to shortages and AMD having dibs
>>54472068
>Looks to me like it was being pretty spanked by Fury X
that's the point of my post
>>54472068
Ashes is a mediocre game man..
I had potential but feels too packed with shit at times.
Like the scale of the maps and your fleets can get massive, but the resource speed feels disconnected from that.
Then you get turinium, which just feels like something they added on near the end because games were taking too long/ destroy any turtle strategy.
They can polish up the game a bit more with a few fixes like better showing the progress bar for unit building since its tiny af, but that won't fix the game mechanics.
>>54472126
Your post shows them outperforming fury X, tho. Yet, the site you got the pic from has the benchmarks clearly showing 1080 getting beaten just above it.
What am I misreading, here?
>>54472192
>$500 fury x is only 6fps behind the $700 1080
anyways, only a retard will buy into this new meme series of nvidia cards.
Buy AMD (Fury X, or Polaris 10 depending on budget) or wait until 2017
I have an R9 280x
When is AMD releasing info on their new shit, 3GB is starting to hold me back.
>>54472281
>3GB is starting to hold me back.
what?
>tfw still gaming at 1440p with a GTX 670 (2GB VRAM)
>>54464540
>What's the catch?
>Shit memory Bandwidth
>NO hardware Aysnc Compute, just lame software extensions in the new drivers
>Its nvidia so it will get gimped when the Ti and 1180 come out
Let's get one thing straight. GCN is superior to Nvidia's arch at the hardware level. AMD's shitty drivers and high CPU overhead have always been the thorn in their side. However, DX12 and Vulkan will shift a lot of the burden onto the devs, where it should be. It's a complete conflict of interest for graphics cards manufacturers to have so much power over their hardware performance via drivers and that's something I've been saying for years.
People that suggest that DX12/Vulkan will flop because it just means more work for devs are somehow assuming that every game developer is going to collude to not do the work needed to take advantage of low level APIs because DX11 "just werks" good enough. That isn't going to happen because DX12 is the real deal and as soon as one company starts using it, the others will have to follow so as to not look like their game can't run on toaster PCs.
Nvidia is fucked within the next 2-3 years if they can't flip the script somehow. They don't have the IP AMD does for cheap-shit, low margin APU and videogame consoles and they don't have the IP, as far as we know, for scalable multi-GPU solutions which is the direction the market is headed in anyway as node shrinks get more and more difficult. If they had that tech, they wouldn't be so fucking averse to DX12. Of course, they know all of this, which explains their push to diversify (read: get out of the shrinking market that is PC graphics) and get into GPGPU stuff via some strategy that segregates them from AMD's comparatively low-end chips.
>>54467404
>Bought a 770 oc 4GB for $500au in 2014
>970 comes out
>feel like a dumbass
>3.5gb and real specs come out
>Feel great, look at benchmarks
>my card is almost as fast
KEK
Good old 680ti
>>54472241
What? No, no, I own a Fury X.
What I'm saying is that the pic in >>54470651 shows 1080 beating fury X, but the site it comes from has a picture similar to >>54472068 showing just the opposite, and I'm wondering where they are getting the first graph from, when the second is directly from AotS' official benchmark site.
>>54472306
You're not running newer games at decent settings though. Don't pretend you are
>>54472411
I'm running everything at decent settings, except Quantum Break (which is just straight up broke, and thankfully a shit game, so nothing of value was lost)
>>54472379
Probably just the first evidence of a reviewer being bought and paid for by Nvidia. It's getting harder and harder to tell who is telling the truth.
>>54471519
This.
>>54464540
>$700
>Actually buying reference for non-sli
Just fyi
Every single instance of “Founder's Edition” can be replaced with the word “Reference,” using previous-gen nomenclature. There is not one difference in its market positioning. They are synonymous. NVidia has replaced its “Reference” name with “Founder's Edition.”
There are not two GTX 1080 models made by nVidia. Only the “Founder's Edition” exists; there is not a cheaper card made by nVidia than the $700 Founder's Edition, which ships first.
Just to be clear: nVidia is making one official GTX 1080 and one official GTX 1070 model.
The “Founder's Edition” is not specially binned.
The “Founder's Edition” is not pre-overclocked.
The “Founder's Edition” uses the new industrial design and cooler from nVidia. Historically, this is what we would call the “reference cooler.” The cooler is more-or-less identical to the previous reference models. It's got vapor chamber cooling, a VRM blower fan, and a large alloy heatsink under the shroud. There is a backplate on the GTX 1080 Founder's Edition.
This card is not "limited edition," despite its name that would indicate as much, and will run production through the life of the GTX 1080 product line.
>>54472514
Also, source:
http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2427-difference-between-gtx-1080-founders-edition-and-reference
>>54469277
Global cycling network
>>54472319
Ive been saying this since Mantle first came out 3 years ago.
Literally nothing has changed except DX12 and Vulkan (which is essentially the same thing based off mantle)
DX11 is like DX9 its overstayed its welcome by almost 8 years it needs to die now
>>54464540
So why is that a picture of a GTX 780 ?
>>54472542
Yeah I forgot to mention that Mantle, though it never lived up to its potential on its own, was sort of just an AMD funded pilot to get some of the groundwork laid for what a low level API might look like. Calling Vulkan a spiritual successor to Mantle isn't a huge stretch even though Vulkan group is constantly going out of their way to downplay Mantle's role.
>>54464540
I was going to jump for this one, but /g/ said this is the retard version and to wait for the other shoe to drop with HBM2 and whatever refinement the TI version has in the next year.
>>54472753
This.
Even the same with Polaris 10 and Vega
Although i need a upgrade now my 3 year old 770 is too slow
>>54472753
It's the same shit with the 980 and 980ti
The 980 launched and was fast and new and shiny, then the 980ti launched and was significantly faster and newer and shinier
Same shit with the 780 and 780ti, etc etc
Do you want a fast new 1080 or do you want to wait and spend more on a significantly faster newer 1080ti?
Is this /g/'s first gpu release or something?
>>54464540
>What's the catch?
$700
>>54472809
buy them both goy, are you poorfag??
>>54472753
Yes and when the 1080ti is out, /g/ will tell you to wait for the 1180. /g/ always tells you to wait, so just buy whatever suits your needs.
>>54472753
>but /g/ said
Why would you listen to anything /g/ says?
>>54472809
>Do you want a fast new 1080 or do you want to wait and spend more on a significantly faster newer 1080ti?
I want a GPU that has enough raw horsepower to run unoptimized flash porn without a drop in framerate in 4k fullscreen on multiple monitors.
A shitty flash that will never be optimized and running on flash is more of a challenge than a modern mainstream game.
>>54472907
you should at least wait and see what amd releases and for what price.
which GPU's will be in new Mac's??? Pascal or Polaris.
Got a feeling they are going to go with AMD again.
>>54472907
>/g/ always tells you to wait
There are reasons why we tell you to wait. First of all, your uses. This card probably doesn't max 1440p at 120Hz or get 60fps on UHD, so why the hell would I buy it? I'm sure not buying it for 1080, so I choose to wait for the 1080Ti or Vega since it's very possible those two will at least do 1440p at 120Hz. VR is still in its baby stages, so I can't really say much about it.
so when can I preorder this piece of shit?
>>54470563
A problem with having too much money?
>>54473028
>preordering
Fuck off
>>54473020
This. The speculation and coming through nVidia's marketing BS is fun and all, but the real decision on weather or not I personally start throwing cash at a Pascal card is 4k performance. Real world, no compromises performance on AAA titles. Once the tech is viable, I'm building a new rig around it. Until then, waiting is the smart decision.
>>54470602
>>54470976
Kek amd are finished. Competing in the 1070 price range with 390x performance.
>>54472184
ashes was meant to be a benchmark for dx12 not a playable game, as a game it's a steaming pile of shit.
>>54468580
>>54470137
>>54470494
>forgetting "stable" WHQL's
>forgetting Fermi DX12
>forgetting Titan X DP false advert
>forgetting Titan Z lies and paper launch
>forgetting claiming Titan was uncut
>forgetting GK104 paper launch
>forgetting GF1"10"
>forgetting GF100 paper launch
>forgetting woodscrews
>forgetting hacksawed PCB
>forgetting GT204
>forgetting "double performance" GT200 claims
>forgetting G92
>forgetting G86 packaging
>forgetting 7950 GT
>forgetting AA filter down quality
>forgetting 6800 GT Ultra Extreme
>forgetting 3DMark2003 cheating
>forgetting the entire FX 5 line
>forgetting the MX4's
>>54464892
And this is why I aint touching it.
Going to sell my 980ti and ride the 1070 till Vega comes out.
>>54464789
>We didn't see it running on stage
Uh, yo didn't they literally run the new Doom on-stage with? It was getting 150+ fps when they unlocked the multiplayer. I mean I'm all for shitting on Nvidia for laffs or recognizing the cherry-picking they were doing but you're straight lying right now.
>>54473359
Kek
>>54465887
on the official site they list 7, 8, 10, Linux, and FreeBSD so yeah I wouldn't worry about it
>>54464540
>Take the best binned card you can find
>OC the shit out of it while in a freezer so you can claim it's on air
>Throw some pretty numbers up on screen
>Meanwhile in a real world scenario: 10% increase over a 980ti
>Sell it for SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARY DOOS with the promise that board partners will target a lower price months after release
>By the way it still doesn't have async compute so it's going to get trashed by cards a third of it's price in dx12/vulkan
>Who cares? Just gimp their cards and our old ones with gameworks™
And people are going to eat this shit up too.
>>54473331
Are you blind? The post clearly says the 1070 is about 30% more powerful than the 390x, which is what the top end polaris 10 card will have the most similar performance to . No one is talking about the titan x. Learn to read.
>>54473436
watercooled cards barely reach 50ºC, retard.
>>54473436
But let me guess, it'll be ok if amd does the same, right?
>>54473452
>Polaris 10 top end will equal 390X
what fucking planet are you on?
Polaris 10 is a 2560 shader chip, the 390X is a 2816 shader chip. AMD has already stated the geometry discard engine alone increased performance by 16%. Assuming no clock increases, no other performance gains, absolutely nothing else, the top chip would already outperform the 390X.
>>54473359
>forgetting the billions of rebrands the 8800 underwent
>>54473504
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-in-theory-can-amd-polaris-regain-mainstream-pc-graphics
They're targeting 390/x performance with polaris 10. They won't have a true 1080 competitor till vega, and by the looks of it they won't have a 1070 competitor till vega aswell. Nvidia have strangled the market with these very powerful cards for piss cheap.
>>54473513
Already got you senpai, 8800 was G92
As a reminder, here is every single G92 card:
8800GS
8800GT
8800GTS
9600GSO
9800GT + Special Green Edition
9800GTX
9800GTX+
9800GX2
GTS 150
GT 230
GTS 240
GTS 250 + Special Green Edition
GT 350
8800M GTS
8800M GTX
9800M GT
9800M GTX
GTX 260M
GTX 280M
GTX 285M
VX 200
FX 3700
FX 4700
FX 3600M
FX 3700M
FX 3800M
>>54473604
I bought this today and you can all eat shit.
P.S. fuck reference cards. I'm coming from a 760 and this 980ti will be a huge deal.
>>54473629
>GOLDEN EDITION
>DX12 ready
>Great for 4K
>>54473629
Nice. That'll last you a few years yet.
>>54473629
>GOLDEN EDITION
>It's actually orange
>>54473629
>gtx 980 ti with amd cooler
Are amd this poor they have to sell their products with nvidia hardware now lmao
>>54464755
GPUs are special snowflakes. For them not to shit theirselves, the litho node needs to be extremely mature. Why do you think they stayed at 28nm for four generations?
I'm surprised they got 16nm to work.
>>54473629
>buying fucking 28nm just a few weeks away from the release
Receipt and shipping confirmation so I can laugh at your retardation.
>>54473653
Whatchya got senpai
>>54473662
Thanks, I know it will last. This 760 has lasted me a few years, i'd expect the same from the 980ti.
>>54473667
>I thought I could sell the gold plate as real gold now I can't because of the orange color
>>54473680
I can't tell if you're saying if the fan is good or not despite it being popular with AMD cards.
Also posting proof that I wasn't shitposting.
>>54473571
See this is where Eurogamer dicks up
Polaris 10 has 2560 shaders uncut
Polaris 11 has 1280
What Eurogamer thinks is there is going to be a 2560 SKU, a 2048 SKU, a 1280 SKU, and a 1024 SKU
In reality:
2560 SKU, 2304 SKU, 1280 SKU, 1024 SKU.
After the Tonga stock dies out, they'll release 1792 and 1536 SKU's.
They're harvesting the fuck out of this die,
>>54473713
see
>>54473716
Also why the fuck would I buy a reference card? I could just be third party vendors by next year. Or a few years from now when the 980ti gets outdated. Hell, by then chances are AMD will make a come back.
>>54473739
To be perfectly honest I'd believe digital foundry every single time over someone posting on 4chan with most likely WCCFtech rumors. Digital foundry foundry have got a lot of things right in the past.
That's just me, though.
>>54473696
no it's because gpu chips take up way more wafer space than mobile chips and there isn't a large enough market for discrete to keep up with mobile which is at 10nm
>>54473716
Fremont, NE?
>>54473629
>>54473716
Just out of curiosity, why would you spend that kind of money on a 980ti? Right now? If you were gonna spend damn near $700 anyway and it turns out the reference 1080 actually performs as advertised, why not just wait?
>>54473359
Do you keep a file or something?
>>54473924
ATI fans get a little obsessive.
>>54473916
My life situation is a little weird.
I used to have money but I used it all (while having shitty jobs.) I had about $17k saved and I spent $6k on my girlfriend for Christmas, And $10k on my education for school. My father lets me live in the house for free and buys me food and gives me money sometimes to buy stuff because he's letting me go to school without working (it's a complicated situation that is better on /b/)
I've been running into issues with my 760 and a family friend heard and he offered me $660 to pay for a new card because he thinks of me like his son and wants to help out and said it's my birthday gift.
It sucks being 22 and not having your own money But I spent most of it on a better education for the future.
>>54473973
I got side tracked, and I don't have the money to add to the $660 he gave me except the extra $10 for tax.
The family friend is a wonderful person. The things he has done for my father and I are amazing,
>>54473924
you mean you don't find enjoyment from seeing how much a company can cuck their customerbase?
>>54473973
>>54473982
Fair enough.
>>54473967
This. Every 3 in 10 gpu owners is suppost to own amd with the other 7 being nvidia owners. Yet every tech forum I go on there always seem to be a bunch of amd/ati fans bashing on nvidia even though they should statistically be outnumbered. I've come to the conclusion that most amd owners are probably neckbeard basement dwellers that don't even play games and instead spend the majority of their day projecting their brand loyalty on forums or image boards such as this.
>>54467385
>>54467349
what does "non-reference" mean?
