owners of 980 ti's and titan x's, how do you feel knowing your gpu is slower than the next $350 "1070" card?
>http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/05/nvidia-gtx-1080-1070-pascal-specs-pricing-revealed/
>http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/geforce-gtx-1080
your resell values are terrible. $250 tops for cards that went for $650 - $1,000.
>i can relate, i currently have a 980 ti
>Skipped 980
>Wasn't a problem at all because nothing except one game (W3) has justified the purchase in the last 3 years
Waitbros won
Been in this game since the FX days. I expect my card to be 1/2 as fast as the next gen at 90% of the cost.
Luckily, NZ is half a year behind the curve and the 980ti strix I have are still 1.1k.
How do i know if my computer can upgrade to the 1080?
got the GTX 78 in 2013. still have 1080p display and no games go below 60fps anyways. Not upset :^)
>>54421634
I live in Japan and it takes them forever to react to anything. I could go sell my 980 Ti this week for a high price but I won't because it will be months until the good 1080's are in shops and I'm still not convinced it will do that much better than the 980 Ti in non-VR games.
>>54421634
Don't own Nvidia, but these cards were top of the line for over a year, where have you seen that? In hardware generations past GPUs used to become obsolete practically every six months.
>Old cards perform worse than new cards
Jesus fucking christ is this your first rodeo
you are delusional.
and besides, msrp gonna be 379 - that's closer to 400 than to 350.
>>54421648
I'm in the same boat.
Been using my 760 and skipped the upgrade to the 970 and instead been saving up for 1080.
My 760's been good to me these past months but now it's time to retire.
>mfw 5770
>mfw it just werks
>mfw upgrading to a fury 2 when it comes out
>>54421778
It's out. It costs $1500 and performs about the same as a $600 1080.
>>54421706
it can retard (except if you live in 3d world country and us AGP gpu)
>>54421778
>willingly buying a microstuttering housefire meme gpu
single powerful gpu >>>> underclocked dual gpu garbage like the pro duo
>>54421791
I mean the next gen fury, obviously
>>54421634
lol... i just built a computer with a 980 for my friend earlier today...
A decent 980Ti will be performing just below a 1080, if not the same. At most it's a 20% improvement over the 980Ti, but that's pushing it. However, since the power requirement is lower for the 1080 and the potential for good OC is there for the 1080, 980Ti prices will drop but not too hard. Expect them to be around $400 as they still outperform the 1070.
>b-but muh better than titan X
Pretty much all non-referrence 980Ti's perform 20-30% better than a titan X.
Anyone with a 980Ti is best off keeping their card and waiting for a 1080Ti unless you absolutely need that 10-20% increase. 980Ti's are going to flood the market soon but there won't be hardly any 1080's, and we still need to wait for other companies to make their own version.
>>54421634
>3.5 hundred dollars
tfw fell for 970 meme
tfw prob fall for whatever meme comes with the 1070
Can memes be transferred down generations?
>>54421809
I doubt AMD will do a high end card again. They just can't get it right. No, their place is in middle-low end, in laptops, and gaming consoles.
>>54421634
I'm fine with it, I got my 980ti for $320. No harm, no foul.
>>54421818
call him in a month and tell him it's time to upgrade
>>54421732
well nvidia's asian jew ceo claimed the 1080 in normal gaming situations it will be about 20 - 30% tops faster than a stock 980 ti.
considering its hard to pick up a stock 980 ti these days and most are factory overclocked to be around 10%ish faster than stock, a 1080 will be roughly 10 - 15ish% faster.
what i find interesting is there claim that the 1070 will be faster. if the low end is 20% for the 1080, then that would put the 980 ti on par with the 1070. 30% for the high end? 10% faster than a stock 980 ti. only way the 1070 can be all around faster is if the gap between the 1070 and the 1080 is 15% or lower. its been awhile since we had such a small gap like that. 970 vs 980 was 20%. 780 vs 780 ti was 20%.
>>54421801
My gpu is pci, can I upgrade?
>>54421818
But the 980 wasn't a good buy even before this announcement....
>tfw going to upgrade from GTX 670 to GTX Batman
Only just went from 1.5mbps shitternet to 100mbps fibre a month ago
This year is like I'm travelling through time
>>54421852
That's what I don't get either. Who would buy a 1080 for $600 when you can have two 1070's for $750 and absolutely demolish it? The only reason to get the 1080 is if you want two of those too.
>>54421852
Keep in mind they're talking about the reference 980Ti, and they're trying to push hard that the 1080 is going to be so much better.
They're just baiting people into these cards so they can drop better version next year.
>>54421845
>amd makes cards that directly compete with nvidia
>"amd's place is making gpu's for shitboxes"
Why do they have to release the 1070 a month after the 1080? Why not release them at the same time? Was it like this for the 970 and 980 too?
>>54421882
No one would pay the extra for the 1080.
>>54421823
>Received my 980ti from newegg two days ago.
>Sent it back to newegg for a refund today
No restocking fee, full refund. Glad I did it after seeing the event. The 1080 releases way earlier than I thought it would.
>>54421882
YOU WANT CARD NOW? YOU PAY FOR EXPENSIVE VERSION!
I feel like I get to play games on ultra till this shit is actually released, then I can upgrade because I've got what we in the industry call "a job"
275gtx here, what should i buy? I can still play games on medium.
>>54421888
>>54421893
You saying it's smarter to just wait for the 1070 then? I've been holding out an upgrade for since October.
when's AMD going to releas new GPU's. If they release before NVIDIA, I'll buy theirs.
>>54421889
My post was meant for long-time 980Ti owners. No reason for them to upgrade yet unless they're the type of person who always get that new cellphone every year.
If you were in the EVGA upgrade program though, go for it.
>>54421906
dude, you should wait for AMD.
>>54421858
he can get a 1080 through step up for $100
>>54421888
>>54421893
Basically what happened with the Titan X and the 980 Ti. But at least the 1070 doesn't perform better than the 1080. Nobody got fucked as hard as Titan X buyers.
I remember people selling their original Titans for 300€ a few years ago. Then their prices skyrocketed and are still crazy high because of muh FP64.
>>54421875
Yea but sli is gay
>>54421634
If only i knew what it was like to be poor and not be able to afford the things i want in life.
>>54421869
What?
Can I upgrade from my S3 to a gtx 1080?
>>54421823
>Pretty much all non-referrence 980Ti's perform 20-30% better than a titan X.
>he thinks this is true
>he thinks a factory-second out performs a full chip
>>54421932
you will, once your parents die
>>54421849
>>54421858
funny story about that. friend selected, purchased, and dropped off parts and came back later when i was doing the finishing touches.
i installed the drivers from the cd that came with the card and after i did the update it showed a promo for the 1080 and my friend got cheesed.
>>54421941
My parents are already dead and i'm married, I doubt you could say the same, a person that lives with his grandmother.
>>54421938
(yes)
>>54421939
I have my 980Ti clocked at 1830Mhz so yeah, it's pretty close.
>>54421938
probably, depends on your power supply I guess. But you could upgrade power supply too if its too weak.
>>54421953
normie, reeee, get out, etc.
>>54421953
>married
>plays games
>>54421801
Are you mentally retarded? This thread is about technology, it's for people who are interested in technology and not for retards who look to find out their PC specs. Fuck off and google your shit.
>>54421913
man i bought my 980 ti last month.... and its a gigabyte.
if its truly a 10% difference between a 980 ti and a 1080 then i'm fine with that. that's nothing. shit even 20% is nothing considering that's the difference between the 980 and 970 and it never made a difference.
just annoying with resell value considering how much these cards cost. cpu's are great investments. core duo series lasted ages and the i series have been lasting even longer. seemed like gpu's where going down the same path. i remember selling my 670 for $270 back in 2014 with the 7xx series in full force and i only paid $340 for it in mid 2013.
but with nvidia launching a 1070 card for $350 alleged to be faster than the 980 ti... even a 10% destroys their resell value. in my area i'm looking at $200 - $250.
>>54421955
>>54421968
My board looks similar to pic related, which slot does it go in?
I'm sure my 250w power supply is enough, I upgraded it recently
>>54421979
virgin, autism, please stop, etc.
>>54421852
>OCed 980ti is worse than a stock 1080
So you over clock the 1080 and get absolutely mad gainz.
>>54421993
I also have sex and my son isn't black and is mine.
DNA is a wonderful thing, can't be too careful.
>>54422000
In the one where the old GPU was idiot.
>>54422016
if you wanted to make me jealous, you've succeeded
>>54422019
>>54421968
>>54421955
Stop spoonfeeding idiots.
Will the 1070 be the new 8800 or 560? Should I wait for Ti? But we won't even know if 1070 will get a Ti version, similar to 970.
>>54421997
The 1070 isn't faster than the Ti, just the Titan X. An OC on the Ti puts it at near 1080 levels.
>>54421875
>SLI
Abhorrent.
I still have a 590
is it the new 14nm card series?
So, is it true they offer reference cards for that price? No word on "partners"? Meaning they don't have enough of that gddr5x around or yields are low?
>>54422028
I'll always love you.
>>54422044
It's a new die so it's gonna be several months before they really get going. Until then expect a couple partner cards and a lot of bad cards.
>>54421964
1830 memory? My strix is 1800 from the box.
>>54421868
>100mbps
welcome to 2008
call me when you have gigabit connection
>>54422067
yeah my gigabyte is 1800mhz memory out of box too. also boosts to 1.42ghz core on its own.
thing heats up my case though. my ram dimms have sensors and they go up 12c when my 980 ti is under load with all the heat rising up.
>>54422058
so, classic paper launch?
good to know, it will get to my region probably in august at best
>>54422077
I'm in Australia so 2008 is still futuristic to me
>>54422077
>gigabit
welcome to 2012
call me when you have terabit connection
>>54421751
>new cards destroying old cards sold for nearly twice the price
you dont see that everyday
>>54421906
Wait for benchmarks of both is what I'd do.
>>54422031
The connector looks different
>>54422000
Please put a 1080 in this.
>>54421845
nice meme
>>54421993
>mfw this stupid fuck thinks games companies are staffed by children.
>mfw this faggot thinks a flight sim like DCS is made for kids.
>mfw I have worked for 4 game dev/publishers...only kids seen were brought in by co-workers to spend the day at the office because it was often like Disneyland to them.
>mfw when you are a hero to kids because you work at a game company.
You are in that really bad age obviously where you think you have to ACT like an adult in order to actually be one huh?
Sad...you'll soon learn. hopefully.
>>54422000
huh, i had one, why were they like that again? can't remember why CPU need to be an extension card
I like talking about GPUs more than playing games on them.
>>54422134
one of my friends wants me to work at a gaming company he works at but I like working where I do (outside of the economy, that is).
how would it compare to working at a hospital?
>>54422058
Board partner cards for the 900 series were quite quick weren't they? Some even at launches?
>>54422000
here you go bro, save the picture for later reference
>>54422150
Vidya companies pay their people peanuts and work them to the bone from what I've read of them whining on the internet. You have to do it for the love of the game, man.
>>54421634
what's the wattage? This is important
>>54422134
I've been gamer myself whole life. Now in my 30ies its just too broing for me (even online games like Dota)
>>54422173
Like 180. Single 8-pin connector was shown in one slide.
>>54421634
i was literally shopping to buy a 980ti today.
thank fuck i dodged a bullet.
>>54422036
I can make shit up too, anon.
Overclocked Ducks lay 10% larger eggs than Geese.
>>54422170
Where did you learn that?
>>54422163
900 series launch wasn't this kind of foundersclusterfuck either and went normally
>>54422171
people that got in those companies for salary say that
>>54422150
>>54422134 here, >>54422171 is correct to point. Depends on your role. But generally in the dev world, game dev's can pay less because it is kinda like being in the 'entertainment industry'(showbiz) in some peoples minds and if they are gamer background types..it is their Valhalla env so to speak. So yeah, they will take less to be in that world and you bet their are crunch modes that can make you work crazy hours but a lot of them make up for it with perks and an env unlike most places you can find.
I started at Sierra On-line back in the day. Most fun place to work ever. Would get off at 4:30...stay at office fucking around with everyone till 11 and then go home..come back in the morning and repeat..some damn good time partying at work after hours.
I don't know..maybe it is the same at hospitals.
I currently have no GPU and I yearn for 1080p/1440p Ultra settings
Wut do?
>>54422226
Wait for 980Ti price drop or get a 1070.
>>54422226
Wait until after June so you can get a 1080 for $500
1070 owners gonna be so mad when they find out that their card has a critical flaw, and that 2017 games will require a 1080 Ti to be maxed out. Even AMD users will laugh at your cucked poorfag cards.
>>54422264
That is a risk I supposed. I mean WHY is it so cheap?
>>54421634
Are they just lowering their profit margins to shill for VR or is Moore's law at work here?
Anyways I'm getting one of the lower price range models for a vive.
>>54421634
>1070
>$350
>3.5
wew
>>54422181
I am an old dude, but did not get into pc gaming at all until I was almost 30. I find my interests have just been more focused as the yrs have passed, only give a couple some of my time at this point so I get where you are coming from. Besides, breaks are always good. It is fun to step away from something and then maybe revisit it yrs later and then see all the advances made while away..gives it that new car smell for a while.
>>54422185
is that just minimum or full load?
>>54422294
TDP. Not the same as power draw but a very good indicator of max draw. I believe Nvidia is suggest a 500 watt psu for a system with a single 1080.
>>54422268
it just has less cores and lower memory bandwidth
>>54422000
I legitimately hope you're a troll.
>>54422317
Has memory bandwidth been limiting recently? Why HBM flop so hard?
>>54422170
Thanks anon!
Should I upgrade my cpu too? It's been a while, not sure if it's enough for any games. Even solitaire stutters in xp
>>54421913
I've had my 980 Ti's since last summer. Upgraded from 980's through EVGA's program. So now I have to sell them at a loss, which blows.
Thinking I might just wait for the 1080 Ti, upgrading isn't cheap when you're in college.
>>54421634
if they charge $400 dollars for it here in Australia, do you think they'd understand if I asked them if I could pay just $350? I mean what's a measely .5 ever meant to anyone.
>>54422406
Keep your shitposting to /pol/, Australia.
>>54421950
KEK
GTX 670/680 beat out their predecessor much harder. Only 20% faster for almost the same price is not a huge leap.
I have a 770 2gb and an i5 4670. KF2 and Overwatch lags.. TF2 lags. I can run BF4 at max.. any reason I can't run Overwatch and KF2? Should I reinstall windows?
i5 4590 can werk witout the neckbottle? pls bitches tell me
need super quick skyrim plays
>>54422465
I roll SLI 980 Ti's (2x) and Overwatch is around 70-ish FPS at 1440p completely maxed except Render Scale is at 122%. So, a 770 at 1080p might struggle. I suggest turning down shadows and render scale.
Upgrade to a FX 8320 if you don't feel like that pleb CPU is doing good enough.
>>54422477
I get around 200~ fps that dips hardcore at lowest 1080p but my card and cpu run at 90~ Celsius. You think I could max it if I cooled my pc sufficiently?
>>54422465
Probably not enough VRAM for one.
AAHAHAHA THEY MADE THE WAIT FAG A MEME
>>54422471
I'd like to know if the 4590 would be enough also
who the fuck plays that game still?
its 2016 phaggot
>2560 CUDA Cores
>1607 MHz Base Clock
>8GB GDDR5X
>180W
>1x 8-pin power
1.6 GIGA PUDDING HOLY SHIT
>>54421634
I have 980 ti and will just wait for 1080 ti
>>54422509
I pass recommended specs. Any reason I have trouble running this on low?
>>54422530
THIS DESU
Even tho it consumes less power and yet they push the boundaries.
At this rate I wouldn't have to buy new psu for next 10 years or so.
someone tell me about this bottleneck meme
I have a i5 4670k from 3 years ago, would these cards cause problems for it?
>>54422541
3 year old cpu lmao
what are you fucking poor?
>>54422540
My 1200w feels silly now. I bet you could SLI these with a 750.
>>54421648
I'm still using my 560ti. Although, i barely game for shit.
>>54422541
gta 5 will be a bottleneck for you
>>54422549
51% of Americans make less than $30k a year
>https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2014
>>54422575
holy fuck, ameripoors
>>54422575
give me 30 grand and i could build a pc...
whats your point?
just buy the new and better hardware and not use old pos crap
>>54422549
who the fuck upgrades CPU every 2 years
>>54422603
It just puts it all into prospective on why you see so many people rooting for AMD and cheap products that aren't the best but get the job done for less money. I didn't understand it until I saw the stats. There is basically no middle class anymore.
>>54422623
true gamers do you fucking idiot...
How hard will my 3570k bottleneck me?
>>54422638
dont you mean
bottleneck
MEME
>>54422558
I'm still rocking a 560ti 448 core. Stock clock most of the time and light gaming periodically. Bought it February around 2012. Proved to be a great card.
>>54422649
answer my question you autist
Once again I wanted to buy a high end gaming GPU and then realized that none of the games I play needs that much power.
>bought a 960 at $110
>Running overwatch at 100+ fps
>No problems
I don't understand yall
>>54422679
it's not about needing the power its about having the choice to play those games if you wanted
Can i play witcher 3 on 4k with this card?
>>54422688
Overwatch meme
over 30 fps meme
>>54422638
Depends entirely on the application.
Given that looks to be in the region of a 200w TDP card I would guess Nvidia is going to have a pretty thirsty architecture (at least compared to what polaris).
Now we know polaris isn't the high end chip - thats going to be vega, but it will be interesting to see if the faster polaris chips can compete against the 1070. That is where a lot of the money is. I do suspect this time around Nvidia will have the housefire cards.
>>54422694
No, I have two 980 Ti's and can't max it at 4k. Two 1080s and you will be there I think.
>>54422699
Over 30 is an understandable meme. I run most shit over 100 easy, its just a number to brag about and frankly not that valuable.
Overwatch is actually pretty fun, don't know if I'll actually buy it just yet though.
>>54422700
For new release vidya. I don't do anything else taxing with my PC, really.
>>54422703
1070 betters a Titan X so I doubt Polaris is going to top that or AMD would be shouting from the rooftops.
>>54422718
Depends on the game again. Things like GTA V or Arma 3 are tough on CPU's so if games continue that trend (probably will) then you could be bottlenecked by that chip.
>>54422731
What CPU should I upgrade to?
>>54422679
it is not about power
it is about better tech
new cards are more stable, quieter and more efficient
1080 for Witcher 3 at 3440x1440 maxed w/ hairworks, yes?
>>54421634
People that can afford to spend so much extra for the diminishing returns of the flagship cards probably don't really care about this.
I paid almost half price for my used 970, so I don't feel bad about the new cards at all.
>>54422077
Im sitll stuck on my 25/5mbit connection
kill me
>>54422688
I can run Half Life 1 on 144fps on my 8800GTX - that doesn't make it a good card
>>54422741
Just wait for Kaby Lake. Or if you are rich get a 6850k this summer.
>>54422723
Well we also have to consider Nvidia is very good at marketing and a lot of their presentation charts are fast and loose with the specifics. Based off the leaked 3DMark 1080 benchmark the 1080 isn't that far beyond the higher clocked 980ti models (and well within reach of those who manually overclock to over 1400mhz).
Still AMD has learnt the hard way not to play their hand too early and I suspect they are waiting until Computex to strike back. Remember :Nvidia's aggressive marketing of the 980ti is one factor into why the Fury x was more or less dead on arrival.
If the 970 fiasco taught us anything is not to take anything Nvidia (or AMD) say as gospel.
>>54422465
Something wrong with your PC then
i play Siege and BF4 alot and i dont get any 'lags'
770 4gb i5 4690 3.9ghz
Lol wait you got the 2gb version? AHHAHAHAAHHA
>>54422782
3.5
.
5
>>54422000
>ISA slot
>2 ISA slots
>>54422803
>770
>4GB
>3.5gb
You do know that 3.5 meme only effected the 970 right?
I am staying FAR away from the 1070 though its a maxwell based card so in DX12 games it will be shit.
1080 or 490x or Bust for me.
Hopefully they come out at the same time and ill choose the winner.
>>54422112
He'd have to trim his card to get it to fit.
Ok, but by how much? In B4 Nvidia provided Benchmarks
And wheres is my gosh dang HBM, Nvidia??
And why the fuck you tryna make it look like a N64 Sprite?
>>54422000
>>54421938
>>54421853
>>54421706
fuck, this was a really good laugh
thank you, anon
>>54422819
AMD Vega 2017
Same time?
>>54421634
ok?
we've been waiting for almost 2 god damn years, it better fuck be or it's going to be a huge disappointment.
Also does anyone not even remember the 580-680 jump? the 680 was as fast or faster than 3 580s in sli.
not 2 like this worthless upgrade, 3 times the performance, and it no longer melted your house down.
>>54422850
Quit bitching, you cannot afford it anyways
>not using hbm
Into the trash it goes , Amd© has already won™
>28% more gaming performance than Titan X
not bad
>>54422859
yes I can, and I plan on buying the XXXti shortly after it comes out.
Ehh still happy with my GTX680, there hasn't been much to stress it out. Though cheaper 980's will be good
>>54421634
This doesn't upset me in the slightest, and I say this as a 980 owner.
I bought the card at release for a reasonable price and was ok with the performance.
The 390x trouncing it for much less money with greater VRAM upset me more than the idea of the 1080 being twice as good as my 980
>>54421634
I've been using my 980Ti for almost a year now, nothing wrong with that?
Buying a top of the line card you (should) know that within a year, mostly, it will lose its value. It's the same with buying phones, really.
Also if you care that much about a few hundred euros you shouldn't be buying 500+ euros graphics cards anyway.
>>54422850
Nigga do you even remember the 8800GTX jump??? Nothing has come close in the past decade to that kind of hype
>>54421634
>>54421634
your ordinary SLI bridge doesn't work anymore you need to buy the new SLI HB bridge
what a jew fucking move.
>>54421634
>bought my 970 2 months ago
>mfi they don't let me refund
You guys think I should be a good goy and shell out for the 1080? I heard there's some "founders" bullshit for it that makes it $699.
>>54422910
It's a completely different design, what do you expect?
>>54422910
600 dollar card... thats fine
but 20 dollars too much for a sexy SLI bridge?
you are a jew
>>54421634
ill probably buy it since i havent upgraded since 2012
>>54422770
But 8800GTX IS a good card.
>>54422910
You're an idiot
>>54422920
Why would they refund you after 2 months?
>>54422921
Maybe less jewry and communication over pcie ala GCN 1.1 onwards?
I'll use this thread
am currently looking into upgrading my whole rig accordingly but are there no AMD CPU's that support DDR4?
what the fak
>>54422920
Maybe read a tech news site once before you buy a gpu. This was leaked months ago.
>>54422952
I am an avid LTT Vessel watcher, I am pretty caught up.
>>54422947
PCIE doesn't have the bandwidth to do what Nvidia are doing here.
>company X makes new cards, much better than old cards
>HAHAHA! YOU COMPANY X FANS ARE SUCKERS!!!!!
>company X makes new cards, slightly better than old cards
>HAHAHA! YOU COMPANY X FANS ARE SUCKERS!!!!!
There is no pleasing some people.
>>54422910
>help me choose which size
im triggered
Radar cross section of a graphics card seems to be the biggest concern this season.
>>54422972
size doesn't matter, m80, don't worry :^)
>>54422962
Oh lord.
>>54422910
isn't it basically a ribbon cable with a plastic clip around it?
I thought they came free with most aftermarket cards
>>54422985
Come free with motherboards not cards usually.
>>54422985
No, this is innovation.
Not that AMD CrossMISSfire cable shit.
>>54422985
>buy one card
>get connector with it
>but another card
>use first connector and have one useless connector lying around
no it doesn't come with the card bruh
>>54422998
AMD doesn't use cables/bridges.
>>54421634
not waiting for HBM2, instead buy some rehashed crap for 15fps gainzzzzzz yo. Also all this VR tech when reality no new games even give full support to that yet.
>>54421634
>new tech improves things and makes old things less good and therefore less valuable
W O O O O O W
O
O
O
O
O
W
>>54423010
Are you sure?
They still use GCN 1.0 in some of their cards.
>>54423031
>muh "just wait for the next tech leap"
keep on waiting
>>54422494
turn on vsync if you have more fps than 60/144... whatever your monitor is capable of... that reduces the load on your gpu= lower power consumption= lower temperatures= cooler room=less sweat
I dunno guys, this seems like a pretty pathetic launch. 75% of the shit shown was new API's and all their amazing "architecture improvements" can be explained by the die shrink. Is this just 16nm maxwell with a slightly updated SMU interface and some new drivers? Did they literally cut off 1/3rd off the full die and overclock the fuck out of it only to sell it for an extra $50?
I am not particularly impressed. I really need to upgrade though because my 760ti keeps shitting the bed due to overheating in my little itx case and I have to go with nvidia because I use iray in substance painter/designer. fuck.
>>54423031
>15fps
uhm ok
>haven't upgraded in the last 2 generations
>Doom and Unreal Tournament 2016 run like shit
>upgrade to 10xx
>100fps difference
worth(c) in some cases(tm)
>>54423059
Add gimping old cards with drivers as a cherry on top and you have a standard run off the mill nvidya launch.
>>54423041
bridges is no need, without bridge/cf bridge crossfire still werks. Cable bridges is like ati 1900 series that was long ass time ago.
>>54422268
The actual cost to makes these things is fucking nothing. We're talking a few dollars at the very best. The price comes from R&D which is expensive. And this is how tech rolls, this isn't "cheap", in fact, gpus have been at an all time high in terms of price if you compare to how it was before.
>>54422842
Glad someone enjoyed it, most people here can't take a joke.
I JUST WANT A NEW CARD TO MIGRATE FROM MY FUCKING 280X
EVERY DAY IT GETS MORE AND MORE UNSTABLE
IM AFRAID IT EXPLODES SOON
>>54422974
Underrated post
>>54423110
Send it to me, I want to experience the thrill of Crossfire.
>>54423075
You amd fanboys are really trying everything you can to smear shit at these gpus because the performance bump was amazing, aren't you? Please damage control more.
>>54423124
i dont want to assist in suicide man
>>54423110
what the fuck are you on, my sapphire 280x works like a motherfucking champ
Only noticeable gains in VR.
>all these shills falling for the "twice as good" meme
>>54423127
>10-15% max off a 980Ti
>AMAZING PERFORMANCE BUMP
Dear god, there are still idiots that believe nVidia's marketing after the 970. This world is fucked.
>they actually named it 1080
what the fuck are they doing
>>54423141
My is Gigabyte 280x
>>54423110
Bake it in your oven. Not joking.
>>54423150
>he's still going
Keep digging, amd cuck
>>54423142
>e shills falling for the "twice as good" mem
this.
>>54423158
hes right though. 1080 is only a 1.7x gain from 980ti. confirmed by many people.
>>54423142
I believe what I want to hear.
>>54423165
>70% improvement
>"""""only"""""
>>54423158
We'll see when the benchmarks release, nVidiot :^)
>>54423150
>overclocker's dream
Remember that one?
>>54423165
Wow, that's quite good, no?
>>54423167
70% off a reference 980Ti. Reference 980Ti = slow as molasses.
>>54422964
Yes it does - pcie is still how the gpu communicates to the cpu so it is the bottleneck regardless. Sli is a fucking ancient technology and AMD abandoning it is why crossfire gives better scaling (often considerably better) than sli.
>>54423155
My ovens BROKE
>>54421634
FEELS FUCKING BAD MAN
my 980ti still has more cuda cores and a higher mem bandwidth tho
>>54422264
>using the picture of a smiley with a carat nose
>>54423110
>280x running EVERYTHING at 60-200 fps depending on game
>people falling for novideos "high end" maymay
>>54422575
>am a student, making 15k a year, still have high end stuff
nice excuses yo
>>54422541
cpu is still decent btw, maybe a bit of a bottleneck but shouldnt be noticable for you, you can upg your CPU, mainboard etc. later.
GPU will give you the biggest boost in performance almost always
>>54423170
FUCKING THIS!!!
IT'S GOING TO BE SHIT!!! I FUCKING SWEAR IT!!!! THIS CAN'T BE FUCKING HAPPENING!!!! THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AMD'S YEAR TO SHINE!!!!! WHY IS NVIDIA DOING THIS???!!!?!!! I FUCKING WANT TO FORCE THESE PEOPLE TO BUY AMD CARDS, I WANT TO SEE THEM DITCHING THEIR GREEN CARDS FOR THE RED ONES AND LIVE IN AN AMD COLORED DREAM!!!!! I CAN'T FUCKING TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!!! I THINK I'M GOING TO FUCKING THROW UP NOW!!!! I CAN'T EVEN FUCKING CRY PROPERLY BECAUSE I BOUGHT THIS AMD HOUSEFIRE AND IT'S EVAPORATING MY FUCKING TEARS BEFORE THEY EVEN COME OUT!!!!!
FUCK THIS!!! THIS ISN'T FAIR!!!! THIS IS NOT FAIR AT ALLLLL!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>54423183
i bet those cuda cores are really useful to you
>hey miss, would you like to see my cuda cores?
>>54422626
what i truly dont understand is why people here and everywhere else in the Pc community fall for the nvidia ruse every gen when you can easily get something even 2 gens ago running perfectly fine.
>>54423182
Oh shit nigga. Bake that oven in an even bigger oven.
>>54423193
280x aka 7970 beast mode is pure power
but ancient tech and really really outdated by now
>>54423178
I thought Nvida gimped 780 Ti's. What is happening?
It doesn't have HBM2?
Who else here buys expensive hardware and then literally only plays dota/csgo/lol?
>>54423202
lel, no need to project nVidiot, don't worry about it! You probably have the high end market on lock, unless AMD is planning something we don't expect. Leave the poorfag sto us and we'll come back in a few years with the sweet sweet cash of the low end market, like the 4xxx days.
>>54423183
good good let the tears flow. i'll buy your 980 TI for $200 anon, plus tip.
but really
>tfw that wait for vega and 1080 TI
>>54423207
I just like having the newest hardware. I'm perfectly aware I'm a huge sucker. I love pouring over benchmarks and shopping for the best card. Getting it, and overclocking it is blast too. I don't even really game much anymore.
>>54421634
Still 7970
Everything still runs great
Definitely gonna finally cave and go for the pascal shit thoo
>>54423202
kek
>>54423220
Hello. I even have a 40" 4K monitor but run Dota in a small 1080p window so I don't have to move my cursor that far.
>>54423216
Pre-gimping drivers and no GameWorks on Alien: Isolation.
>>54422910
curious how/if the scaling gets effected by their new design, maybe worth considering SLI again.
>>54422102
on the 8000 series that happened but never again since then
>>54423220
Literally every single person buying these cards.
I still keep upgrading because I have more disposable income than I could do with but it's simply fucking laughable how there's literally nothing to play that meets the simultaneous criteria of being:
>good
>demanding
The only game in the last years that was appealing and demanding at the same time was witcher 3 and you could easily play it on much older gpus just fine. I mean, just look at the rest of the market. There's what, fucking assassin's creed? The 500th rehash of call of duty and its clones? Press X To Win batman games that run like shit? Give me a break.
Dark Souls 3 runs on literally anything so that's out as well and there isn't a single demanding game in the near future announced or released that will justify this shit. In fact, I looking forward to Ni Oh, FF XV, NieR Automata, WiLD and RiME way more and those are all ps4 exclusives.
Let's be honest here. Nobody thinks about what games they want to play, we just keep buying these expensive gpus because it gives a nice adrenaline rush and the feeling that your life is "improving" somehow and that "things are going to be awesome" in an extremely vague sense.
>>54421634
I kept telling fucking people to wait, we haven't had a die shrink in 4,5 years combine that with architectural improvements and a new memory type and you got yourself huge room for performance increase.
But people kept responding with 'Hurr you can always say that, you can always wait for the next big thing'
I'm so fucking glad I stuck with my 780ti and skipped last generation of cards
I will be able to pick up 980ti performance for almost half of what it would have cost me
Buynow faggots BTFO
>>54422102
this is 8800 GTX all over again
Wait for the HBM2 version, bruhs.
>>54423283
And people with 980 Ti's can skip this card easily. I don't know if they'll be able to skip the 1080 Ti though.
>>54423220
fuck this hit me hard man. upgraded my PC last year and pretty much only played Dota 2 on it. Luckilly new patches are shit and I'm redescovering the joy of single player.
those games are cancer
>>54423278
>Dark Souls 3 runs on literally anything
confirming have constant 60fps with an old HD7950 everything maxed out @1080p
Witcher 3 runs like shit though, really the only reason I'm waiting for new GPUs
>>54423283
>I'm so fucking glad I stuck with my 780ti and skipped last generation of cards
You'd have to be fucking retarded to upgrade to maxwell when you have a x80ti gpu, the same goes even for people with a 980ti who want to upgrade to this.
It's always best to skip the next batch of cards and upgrade to the one right after because the difference from each gen doesn't really justify the pricetag.
>>54423278
this
It's good to see an honest post here
I would be EXACTLY like this if i weren't total poorfag. I spent years wishing to buy new tech, but eventually grew out of it, i realized i don't play anything anymore. My poverty saved me from buying unnecessary shit
Now i only buy new storage and ram for virtual machines, IT world is the new gaming for me
>>54423290
On paper it looks like their biggest leap for a while. I do seem to recall the 780 series being a pretty decent jump in efficiency as well though.
>>54423305
>And people with 980 Ti's can skip this card easily
If it truly is faster than 980's sli, its going to be a very big difference with the 980ti
>>54423328
That's only for VR, anon.
>>54423334
We will see, lets wait for the benchmarks
>>54423283
>mfw HD7850
The leap in performance is going to be so fucking delicious.
>>54423278
well you may have point when talking about people who upgrade every new gen comes out, but try running overwatch at 18 fps on low settings and not thinking about upgrading after 43 seconds.
>>54423283
>Mfw went from Ati Radeon 9200SE from 2001-2 to GTX760
>take a look at my regular tech website where people can offer used products too.
>since yesterday it's literally filled with people trying to dump Maxwell cards for high prices untill people catch wind of this
Top kek
>>54423338
Even Nvidia said this though.
>>54423354
It would require me to see the value in moba shit #12323459826374589013740 first and I really don't, but I understand your point.
OP,
how does it feel knowing the fact that the price of the 1080 would be much lower if Nvidia didn't sport such a faggot gaymer design with various indentations and retardations on the case that cost a lot in the manufacturing process since they increase the quantity of machines working on it and the operation quantity required to finish the product?
Because it doesn't feel good to me.
And it doesn't feel good to me that gaymer GPUs are being posted on /g/ instead of /v/ where they belong.
Quadro/FirePro or get the fuck out.
All I'm really interested in is to see if 1070 will outperform the 980ti.
If it has the same overclocking headroom as the 1080 seems to have this shouldn't be too hard.
Actually
980 Ti > 1080 > 980
>>54423354
>install paragon beta test
>screen looks like it's been smeared with an inch thick coating of vaseline
>this livestream
now it makes sense. fuck you sweeney you creepy jew.
>>54423278
>Literally every single person buying these cards.
You're literally full of shit
I game on 1440p and I have plenty of games that on max settings are demanding enough for cards like the 980ti.
To name a few:
COH2
Starwars Battlefront
Witcher 3
ANNO 2205
>>54423379
You do realise the difference is very small, right?
If the design was more efficient you'd save $0.40 at most.
>>54423410
>company of heroes 2, fucking starwars nickle&dime front and anno 2205
Fucking kek. You have literally no taste.
>>54423379
>how does it feel knowing the fact that the price of the 1080 would be much lower if Nvidia didn't sport such a faggot gaymer design with various indentations and retardations on the case that cost a lot in the manufacturing process since they increase the quantity of machines working on it and the operation quantity required to finish the product
M8 it's milled by a fucking robot. the complexity of the design has absolutely no impact on the cost. The savings in recycled bits of the expensive alloy used to make the shroud more than make up for it.
>planning on getting 2 1440p monitors soon
>this glorious news
>summer sales soon
So glad I waited so fucking long now. Gonna love Witcher 3 in it's full glory.
>>54423435
I couldn't care less what some peasant on an image forum thinks about my taste in games.
My point was you're an idiot, and you make stupid assumptions, and you definately proved that
>>54423379
>Quadro/FirePro or get the fuck out.
Literally every speccy thread is full of 970 or poorfag AMD builds
>Quadro
>FirePro
>On /g/
>>54423388
the 1080 is faster than a titan x.
>>54423449
Except you're the one who's proven you are a complete idiot with the unsurmountable pile of trash you play. You are literally playing the worst games of the year that had a plethora of issues from shit performance to zero content but I wouldn't expect any less from an easily entertained pig who buys EA trash. You'd probably have a blast with whatever pile of feces they threw your way anyway.
>>54423466
GTX 980 was only 160w? Uh oh. I had two and they ran hot as hell. 1080 is even more watts.
>>54423466
What kind of fucking monkey designed that graph?
Relative gaming performance(x) power(y) lmao.
>>54423361
wtf is up with people offering used GPU's for like 10% less than a new one?
who's buying this shit?
>>54423484
>Except you're the one who's proven you are a complete idiot
Because I don't play games that you like?
Grow up kiddo
>>54423501
why, what's the problem?
>>54423379
GPUs are technology. Get fucked.
>>54423511
It's misleading and hard to understand for retards. A graph should either use some kind of objective metric not some relative bullshit or at least be easy to understand for 14 year olds.
Good thing that I sold my 980 two weeks ago for 85% of its original purchase value.
1080 here I come.
>>54423504
Other dumb people I guess, you often have to filter through the shit deals to find a few good ones.
>>54423487
Reference cards are. They throttle to keep the power draw down
>>54421845
And what is Vega?
>>54423542
Vaporware for now.
>>54421773
Exactly the same situation for me. Im going to upgrade from the 760 to the 1080 (or amd counterpart) as well. We won, bro. We won.
>>54423603
I think the 1080 might get fucked by 1080 ti, I'd rather buy a 1070 for now.
>>54423607
But if a 1080ti doesn't come out till 6 months or so after the 1080 then you'll only have another 6 months until they release the next XX80 card which will outperform the 1080ti
did they say anything about a possible freesync support?
Nothing and I built a 980ti rig literally two days ago. I don't mind having overpayed a bit and I won't even use all of the horse power I currently have
how likely am i to be bottlenecked by my 3770k if i upgrade to a 1070?
>>54423673
Weird, every GPU I buy is maxed in whatever resolution of framerate I am using for the latest AAA games. Otherwise I would just go with a cheaper card.
>>54423686
You overestimate 1070
>tfw still have ATI 2000 series card
>cant upgrade until. I know if I will move or not this summer
>have had funds for it since last year
Life is suffering
>>54423724
You don't understand how resolution is a factor. Right unless you play at 4k more or less every gpu is cpu limited until you start hitting low tier cards.
>>54423746
Wouldn't this indicate that CPU isn't a factor in this resolution if every CPU is the same?
>>54423746
The thing is upgrading cpu is just not worth it, I'd rather be limited by the cpu and just use that extra money for a better gpu. I have an i5 2500k overclocked at 4.5 ghz and still see no reason to upgrade. I really hope zen or the next intel cpu makes me do it.
>>54423278
>ds3 runs on anything
I have a passive GT640 and i barely hit 30fps
>>54423759
That is the whole point - because you are limited on the gpu front. The only way for cpu differences to matter is to add more gpu grunt.
This is why 4k in particular sees AMD's cards pull ahead in relation to Nvidia ones - their cpu overhead isn't really in play anymore.
Pic related - while there are some odd lows on the Intel chip performance is very similar because (again) the two 970's are still the limiting factor.
>>54423762
I am not denying the economics of it, just pointing out that almost regardless of of your cpu unless are pushing serious pixels your cpu is holding back your gpu in some shape or form.
>>54423746
>wanting to upgrade your CPU for minimal instead of just admitting that the games are coded in shit
>>54423746
>GTAV as proof
>most CPU hungry game next to star citizen
yeah, nah.
Although you're right, now that the new console engines have made their way back to PC apparently you need a 140w hyperthreaded CPU in a PC to beat a 65w laptop APU in a console. go figure.
AMD have such an uphill struggle, they really need to release some nrw cards before these new nvidia cards or they're going to lose even more of the small percentage of the market they currently reside in.
I was planning on buying a 980ti to upgrade my 280x before heading back to my home country in the 16th, but I guess I'll pass on that.
>>54423524
Video games are technology too.
>muh video game coding
>muh GPU gayme technologies XDXDXD
>muh gaymer performance and peripherals
IT IS NOW ALLOWED TO POST VIDEO GAME THREADS ON /g/, CUZ GAYMER GEAR IS TECHNOLOGY
FUCK YERRRR, /g/ SHOULD BE RENAMED INTO /v/.2!!111!! XDDDXDXDXD
>>54423818
4K is still bad way to benchmark
>>54423913
For cpus yes. It makes a great gpu benchmark.
>>54423882
>putting words into peoples' mouths
>>54423930
>finding vague excuses to call gaymer shit "technology"
>>54423940
It's a shame you freenux can't run games
>>54423949
I don't use freenux. Try again cakeboy.
>>54423603
Good on us. I'm still going to wait for maybe a month after release though. Just to see benchmarks and news and whatnot.
Afraid Nvidia might pull another 970 on me.
>>54423818
I'm so confused. They are GPU bottlenecked so it literally doesn't matter what the CPU is doing.
>>54421648
I still have my AMD 6870, and I'm still trying to find a good game that need a better GPU.
> degeneracy is also in video games
>>54422036
> 3DMark
Tells nothing. Stop with this meme.
>>54423882
>GPUs are only used for gaming
so this is the power of autism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEq2e1NA2tY
What the fuck is dis .
>>54423466
>believing marketing material
>2016
>implying "relative gaming performance" means anything
I mean, it might well be a little faster than titan x, but I'd be surprised if that chart is in any way accurate representation of how well the gains translate to real-world performance. Before Nvidia starts gimping the hell out of maxwell, anyway.
>>54424020
>They are GPU bottlenecked so it literally doesn't matter what the CPU is doing.
It would be more accurate to say that cpu performance doesn't matter within that scenario. It is worth pointing out that GTA V only really hits 4 threads - in games that scale furuther (lets say...ashes of the singularity) then even at 4k you will see a greater delta between the chips.
>2016
>buying nvidia
>>54423982
Waiting for benchmarks is a must. Only retards buy imediatly after launch. Waiting for a 1080ti could also be worth it. We will see.
>>54424341
>using a proxy to bump a dead thread
smdh
does nvidia pay people in the crowd to cheer and yell when they announce stuff?
it was so cringe-worthy watching the announcement
>price shows up on screen
girl: OMG WHAT! YAAAYYY
i'm going to assume nvidia tells their employees to come and cheer as if they are hearing the information for the first time
>>54424108
>i'll act as if gaymer GPUs aren't gaymer GPUs
>proper work and editing GPUs like Quadro and FirePro that are at least /g/ and aren't something /v/ kiddies will use, i'll ignore
KEK, good luck faggot.
>>54423746
That's only because framerate is so low. Try running gta v at 4k max settings 60+ fps and see the results then.
IAMDead retards on suicide watch
>>54424420
>something is technology
>but you can't discuss it on /v/ because it's technology I don't care about
like I said, autism.
The only thing I'm impressed about pascal is >Thos 2.1Ghz on air
Can't wait for EVGA's 1080 Hybrid
>>54424502
>something is gaymer shit, while proper technology exists
>i'll just post gaymer shit on /g/ because /g/ is the second containment board for /v/
Like i said, go back to /v/ with your gaymer shit, and take your Razer equivalent of GPUs with you.
ill probably pick up a 1070
>>54424487
That makes zero sense - its the delta between the results that matters, not strictly the raw fps itself.
60fps, 120fps or 12 fps are irrelevant - what you need to know is the delta between the slowest cpu and the fastest cpu.
>>54424545
Actually, it's kind of both. If you have 60Hz monitor, it doesn't matter one bit if one CPU can give you 10 extra FPS over another when both of them consistently keep the framerate over 60.
>>54424246
remember when the $330 970 beat the $669 780 TI in almost every game? i do. it's not healthy to be delusional anon.
>>54424538
This
Gonna pick up the 1070, best choice for good frames in 1080p.
Not gonna wait for AMD so they can just deliver another fail series like Fiji.
>>54424624
Under that stipulation yes. If we assume an infinite refresh display for the sake of the argument more raw fps won't magically alter how much better X cpu is over Y cpu under gpu bound situations.
>>54424633
Remember when 780 ti beat 290x in almost every game? There's a reason why I added the caveat about Nvidia gimping maxwell.
And when is AMD gonna release their cards?
>AMD has only cards to compete against the GTX1060
AYYYYY
>>54424705
Who cares? Can people really not afford a $350 1070 that beats a Titan X?
>>54424736
You mean the market segement where the most money is? Polaris is all about getting OEM's onboard.
>>54424755
>Who cares?
People who don't want to play russian roulette with drivers.
>>54424772
>You mean the market segement where the most money is?
Professional cards
>>54424772
Consoles.
>>54424772
Mmmm yes, laptops.
>>54424841
Consoles earn AMD (and in the past, Nvidia and IBM) very little money. AMD is primarily using their console domination to leverage their architectures.
>>54421634
980Ti here.
I don't really give too much of a shit. I bought an ultrawide 3440x1440 monitor a few months back and needed a new card to run it so I got a 980ti. I work for a living so I don't care about the money too much and I'll still have this card for years.
You just have to buckle down and buy a card at some point or the only game you'll be playing is the waiting game, forever. The next new meme is always right around the corner.
>>54421634
happy that progress is being made. buying 1080 as soon at it's out
>>54424882
You'll have it for years? You'll be struggling to drive that monitor with your card by this time next year for sure.
>>54424909
What? No. I don't play a ton of AAA games. I had a 670 for over 4 years and the only reason I upgraded was because of the monitor.
>>54424545
A cpu can only handle so many frames per second. At 4k, your cpu doesn't matter as much because your gpu is nowhere near powerful enough to approach that limit. At 1080p it's much easier, that's why there's very little difference in performance at 4k.
An i3 2100 may only be able to process 70 frames per second, but the gpu won't get close to that framerate at 4k.
>>54425608
People from 2009 haven't tried it these days so they think it's bad.
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