It's GNU/Linux
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Get it straight anons.
>>54399709
What a child
>>54399666
no, its gnu+linux
>>54399666
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as GNU/Linux is in fact GNU. Linux is not part of the operating system itself, but is the kernel that is not covered by the naming system of an operating system as defined by common sense.
Many users run operating systems such as Windows, OSX, and a variant of BSD yet do not use a cumbersome naming system that includes the kernel, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, GNU has been the exception to this for no reason and has just been called "Linux" for no good reason, and many others use the insane, cumbersome term "GNU/Linux", mostly because the GNU project doesn't want you to think that Linux is a part of GNU.
There really is a Linux, and it's not part of GNU, but it's a kernel, and no one really specifies using it. GNU is the OS; the actual base system you interact with, and is useful with any compatible kernel; it can function with many different kernels such as kBSD or even NTOSKRNL.EXE, so the whole system should only specify the kernel when it matters, because all these kernels are really irrelevant regarding GNU.
>>54399719
>>54399736
Kill yourself dumb tripfag cancer.
>>54399758
>informed argumentation
>childish
Freetards everyone.
>>54399719
my lab had a curry nigger graduate that didn't even publish anything. he promised the professor he would finish the paper after graduating and never published it.
this is from a mid tier school. i can only imagine some of the phd graduates from the worst schools in the country.
>>54399666
>>54399709
>>54399719
>>54399736
>>54399758
>>54399772
>>54399783
>>54399804
>>54399809
>>54399863
>>54399866
itt retarded virgin neckbeads
>>54399866
If Linux are the legs then GNU are the billets.
It's really retarded to call it anything but Linux since it has a valid meaning, not some autistic acronim meaning jack shit.
>>54399899
kill yourself cancerous trip newfag
>>54399937
>buttmad freetard defending a fat toe jam eating jew.
>>54399866
>back/stool
>>54399772
Not really. It's GNU/Linux. GNU/Linux is just a variant of GNU.
>>54400182
>It's legs
>>54399709
STALLMAN
B
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F
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>>54399709
Fake meme
>>54399736
Dumb tripfag. Do you think you're cool or something? Like no one cares about you you stupid cancer.
It's GNU.
We don't name OSes after kernels, even partially.
"BUT LINUX ISNT PART OF GNU"
So?
>>54399719
Dumb iCuck
I don't see what the big deal is, it's like a brand name at this point. Like calling tissues kleenex. Or calling ice pops, popsicles.
>>54400235
>LINUX ISNT PART OF GNU
Linux-libre is. GNU includes Linux libre
>>54400252
Well, whatever, the point is nobody cares about the kernel when talking about an OS name. If they did, it would be Windows/NTOSKRNL.EXE.
>>54400265
>Drum Tripfaggot sits on legs
>Uses iPhone
You literally can't make this shit up. Come lick my cum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ
Listen to the message, the man isn't important.
>>54400268
Cannot disagree
Everybody join together now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfAFUd1ZwB8
>>54399709
I didn't even read all of that is this real?
>>54399709
The term "operating system" can refer to either just the kernel or the kernel plus system programs. Since GNU is intended to be a replacement for Unix, FSF uses the term in the Unix sense, i.e. the kernel plus system programs.
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#osvskernel
>>54399709
Crazy Bum = Blown The Fuck Out
>>54400345
GNU has had Linux for ages. Get fucked
>>54399736
'Sup dude like muh collection, btw these are all yours since you change almost daily.
>>54400351
No. A kernel is a kernel, an "operating system" is a system that operates, ie is useful for the tasks a user puts to it.
>>54399666
>666
>>54399736
The ONE time a tripfag has ever been right
>>54400378
By your definition my installed device drivers are my OS?
WEW I am using bcmwl, x86-inoput-evdev, mesa and intel-microcode and some other shit combined.
>>54400402
So it's a common mistake of terminology
>>54399709
Fake. Stallman would never create a google account. You >>>/b/ trolls should end yourself.
>>54400345
aight, keep the cancer flow through /g/
>>54400399
Being an annoying faggot
>>54400427
I'd rather stick to calling things by proper, justified names
>>54399809
Bill Gates: rich, intelligent, athletic, successful, happy, promotes freedom and entrepreneurship
RMS: a bum, bitter, fat, can't code a kernel if his life depended on it, promotes communism and slavery
>>54400487
>>54400372 (Samefag)
>Bill gates promotes freedom
Wew lad
>>54400265
You think your opinion is worth something?
>>54400409
>installed device drivers
Is it their job to provide access to the entire system's hardware and interface with the user's programs?
Oh you're just shitposting.
OPERATING
SYSTEM
Look these words up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJDv-zdhzMY
Doug Englebart knows what an
OPERATING
SYSTEM
is.
>>54400547
What do you think the monolithic named Linux is almost entirely made of, you dumbshit nigger?
>>54400487
Stallman is about the lowest a man can get.
The fat fuck wants everything to be "free" and whenever asked about how a programmer would make a living he refuses to give an answer.
He is a fuckign cancer.
>>54400582
Nothing, without GCC it doesn't exist.
Hey let's analyze any common default Linux distro and find out what percentage of the code is LINUX and which part is GNU.
For all intensive purposes every distro is GNU/Linux.
>>54400612
>Nothing
What do you mean nothing you little piece of shit? 80% of Linux kernel as of last year is just Drivers and their extensions.
>>54400612
And most distros are Linux/GNU/xdg/SytemD/xorg/your DE of choice.
Just because you used some compiler it doesn't get to be named in the final product.
If you freetards want to have your Os so you can call it how ever you like fell free to improve the piece of crap that is HURD.
>>54400658
>HURD
There is already Linux libre
>>54400654
>80% of Linux kernel as of last year is just Drivers and their extensions.
Linux kernel without GNU will not compile or have any user programs.
Sorry, GNU/linux, the L just got ten feet shorter.
>>54400658
>Just because you used some compiler
>compiler
>editor(s)
>linker
>entire toolchain
>window manager
>entire user-facing OS
"just some compiler" eh newfaggot?
>>54400701
A rippoff is not something you can call it yours.
>>54400729
>window manager
>entire user-facing OS
Xorg is not GNU you freetard monkey.
That's why i propose the name Linux/GNU/xdg/SytemD/xorg/your DE of choice.
>>54400730
Exactly, ripping off Unix with an illicit copy of the Lions book like Linus has admitted to isn't that great anyway.
That's why I choose BSD.
>Hey look I copied 15% of POSIX by ripping off BSD and the Lions book!
>hey community help me!
>now I am hero
>>54400730
>Has no arguments left
top kek. Go kill yourself dumb cuck
>>54400777
Please explain then what Linux-Libre is.
Taking parts away of a software becasue it pleases Stallman is NOT the same as building your own.
>>54399666
Call it Linux or GNU. GNU/Linux is objectively incorrect.
>>54400820
>Please explain then what Linux-Libre is.
It's a free GNU kernel, HURD replacement
the proper representation.
>>54400853
Saved
>>54400848
>AKA a ripoff of Linux.
>>54400924
That's the point of source being open you literal dumb cucklet
>>54400941
Yeah becasue creating a working kernel actually takes skill so let's just use the Linux kernel and remove some parts and call it our own.
>Freetards
>>54400989
>and call it our own.
does the "linux" part of linux-libre confuse you, anon?
>>54400598
there was one episode of the linux action show where they interviewed stallman (and the next episode when they commented on it), they asked this and other compromising questions, pure gold
[spoiler]he actually suggests programmers should just pick another profession if they are to code "unfree" software[/spoiler]
You mean Lignux?
>>54400989
Why would own kernel be needed when there is one already there? Do you think it is a dick measuring contest?
>>54401049
Oh god i saw that episode, the man is a fucking lunatic.
>>54401049
>Programming
>Profession
>>54401056
It is for the average freetard trying to call it "Ganoo plus Lonux".
>>54401080
Because GNU made Linux available for the masses and Linux is just an extension of pre existing GNU?
>>54401072
Programming is a trade but not a craft.
>>54401049
>>54401070
Found the episode, i really insist that every dumb freetard watches it.
https://youtu.be/radmjL5OIaA?t=625
>>54401145
>I'd be glad if I could stop them
dictator-wannabe
>>54401271
The nutjob doesn't even care about people going unemployed, he just say fuck them they do something moreally wrong according to me so they don't matter.
It reminds me a lot of comminust dictators on asia.
>>54400455
>Linus is the creator of the LinuxOS also known as Manjaro ...
what kind of cancer is this?
>>54401422
Some mad freetard running out of arguments probably.
>>54399666
This is what a typical Linux system looks like in the year 2016
>>54401462
Saved, freetards are goint to get really mad at this.
What if it was the other way around? Would we call it GNU if Linux was the userland?
>>54401462
You're a tech illiterate and should leave this board. Your "infographic" show parts of a distribution. A distribution differs; the core OS is GNU. Sometimes if comes with Mach, kFreeBSD, NETBSD and mostly it's distributed with Linux. When you add stuff to the core OS (GNU+Linux) you have a distribution. I hope you've learned something.
>>54401649
>>54401462
>Systemd
You mean init. Not every distro uses systemd
>Xorg and DE encircle init system
>literally anything but Qt using DE
Not even freetard but that's dumb as shit
>>54401462
>>54401582
Revised
>>54401462
Pretty much. Hence why most intelligent people call it just Linux. Because it barely has anything to to with GNU anymore (not that it had much to do with GNU in the first place).
>>54401689
>>54401686
>You mean init. Not every distro uses systemd
Every single major distro does
>Xorg and DE encircle init system
They're parts of the core system which you use to run everything else (e.g. GNU software)
>nitpicking pointless semantics for years back and forth
I'm glad I don't have autism.
>>54401649
>the core OS is GNU.
Ladies and gentlemen, the GNU OS
>>54401781
They should call it GNOS for GNOS Not an OS
>>54401145
best part starts at 55:20
>– Are you actually putting the needs of having no non-free software above the need of feeding my kid?
>– Absolutely. I don't see much difference between what you're saying and what a thief would say trying to justify what he's doing.
>– The most effective thing any American can do to reduce ecological impact is not have a kid. That's another point to keep in mind.
>>54401781
LOL, srsly. Why are tech illiterates allowed on /g/? GNU is more than your retarded bauhaus picture.
>>54401824
mfw freetards will try to defend this lunatic.
>>54401827
>can't come up with an argument becasue the pic is very accurate.
>let's just throw some ad-hominem here that will make them cal Linux like the way Stallman wants.
>>54401827
>GNU is more than your retarded bauhaus picture.
Sorry, let me fix my picture
>>54399666
No, It's Linux.
>>54401462
kek
Why don't those two faggots (Linus and Richard) make a deal and compromise a name that won't mention either GNU project or Linus' name ?
Also, that way they won't forget the other important projects that make it an operating system.
>>54404632
GNL
:^)
>>54404655
GNU's not Linux
>>54404690
GNL's not Linux. It has to be recursive acronym.
>>54404718
How would you pronounce GNL though?
>>54399666
I'll call it "Linux" and there is fucking nothing you can do about it, anon.
Original Unix was released as more than just a Kernel.
Linux is Linus's Unix.
Therefore, it's okay to use Linux to refer to more than just a kernel.
/THREAD
>>54400729
why is his ceiling so low?!
is he a woman hahahahahahah :-(
>>54399666
where is your god now?
>>54404740
Gah-null
>>54401462
GNOME is GNU
Bash is GNU
Icecat is GNU
>llvm+Clang
Hahahahaha go kill yourself hipster faggot
Nano and Emacs are GNU
Systemd and Pulse audio is licensed under GNU LGPL.
Network Manager is licensed under is GNU lgpl
>>54405209
It's perfect.
>>54405386
nice bait
>freedom to use, study and modify software
>but if you build something famous you gotta put GNU in its name
Kinda pathetic
>>54399783
Freetards will never recover from this
>>54401643
No, it would still be Linux if Linus were still the bigmouthed jew he is.
>>54405420
Shut up
>>54399666
Trips of truth. Everyone who parrots this "linux" meme, should leave this board. Reminder that the /Linux part only exists because there are many different variations of GNU such as GNU/kFreeBSD, GNU/NetBSD, GNU/Hurd, etc. The /Linux part indicates that a version of GNU is using Linux as kernel. If you don't talk about the kernel itself, calling it just GNU is already enough.
>>54405386
>GNOME is GNU
Most people I know use KDE or Xfce though. Only masochists like GNOME
>Bash is GNU
zsh has replaced it as the best standard shell a few years ago
>Icecat
Absolutely _nobody_ uses this. Also it's literally just a name-change on Firefox with some shitty addons pre-installed that break all websites.
>Nano and Emacs are GNU
Most people I know use vim or a graphical text editor
>they are licensed under GNU LGPL, they must be GNU software!
cannot comprehend the retardation necessary to argue this point
Is everything under the BSD 3-clause license suddenly part of BSD now, too?
>tfw you want to use a pure GNU system
GNU/Hurd when?
>>54408484
Never
>>54408484
http://www.archhurd.org/
https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/
>>54408539
off yourself
>>54408583
no u
>>54406151
99.9% of distros in the real world are based on Linux and largely non-GNU software
The “variants of GNU” you mentioned are experimental / toy releases that account for less than 0.1% of market share if not even less.
>>54399709
>Takes screencap of what could have been classic copypastry.
>>54400853
hmmmm
>>54408648
Doesn't change the fact that those distros like >>54408583 aren't "Linux". Get it straight.
>>54408730
>distros not using the Linux kernel aren't Linux
Thank you Captain Obvious
>>54408730
If you actually used Arch Hurd or Debian Hurd on your system (you don't), then I would call them “Arch Hurd” and “Debian Hurd”.
If you used Gentoo FreeBSD then I would call it “Gentoo FreeBSD”.
But if you use Gentoo Linux, Arch Linux etc., then I will call them “Gentoo Linux”, “Arch Linux” etc.
>>54399666
G U A R A N T E E D R E P L I E S
>>54408767
No problem. I hope you see now why calling the GNU system with added linux just Linux is retarded.
>>54408999
Nah, it's still Linux
>>54408684
Stallman confirmed as being Dagoth Ur.
>>54399709
>As has been noted (not only by me), the linux kernel is a miniscule part of a complete system
This is a quote by Linus Torvalds. Google it if you don't believe me.
>linux
>tiny piece of software that runs on hardware
>GNU
>gigantic bloated clusterfuck that doesn't run without Linux in it
Sounds about right.
>>54411564
b-b-but muh eternally half finished microkernel
