>he "codes" in php and javascript
>he thinks he is a programmer
Fucking this. I hate these kinds of people.
>>54380577
You forgot HTML.
hi, whats php? thanks
>>54380577
>he has a shitty web dev job
>he unironically calls himself a "coder"
>he unit tests things
>he doesn't realize how many sql vulnerabilities are on the site
>he thinks that the site is not vulnerable to ddos attacks, but it is vulnerable to dos attacks
>he is a php dev
>>54380613
>he is a php dev
>>54380613
>he thinks icmp is a tcp flag
What do you guys have against php?
>>54380613
Hahaha unit testing for morons who don't write perfect code amirite XDXD
I tried c++ before php and didn't know wtf I was doing, after php, it was easy.
>>54380577
ugh I thought this was a bully free subreddit
>>54380858
it can actually be used in the real world
>>54381210
Hahaha, are you a php and js "coder"? XDDD
>>54381460
and this is a disatvantage?
>Someone likes things I dont like
>lets make yet another thread about it.
and this is why /g/ is boring nowdays
>>54381642
>>54380640
>>54380613
>>54380595
>>54380588
>>54380577
You people don't get it.
Someone can use PHP and js and still produce good scripts (yes, not programs because programs are compiled binaries that run on a machine).
The problem is that most people are lazy and take whatever bloated premade JavaScript and just use on or two functions. The same goes for CSS --> massive CSS files for one or two elements styled by it.
The problem with php is that many newbies / even normies who have a simple static html homepage try to add functionality to their page. So they learn about php and don't want to do very much wich probably results in PHP-code that is vulnerable to SQL-injections.
This is what damages the reputation of a language.
I wrote a website-based application in C with nginx and CGI
in fucking c99!
Now I am happy about the ease of php.
It's just one of the right tools for the job.
C has other powers.
>>54382464
Shit nigga it's like you actually care about the asinine opinions /g/ has.
>>54382492
I just try to see the good in people
I haven't given up, ... yet!
>>54380596
It's a type of university degree.
>>54382599
No, It's something to eat
>>54380577
>he doesn't have a job
>posts on 4chan
>is butt hurt by programmers getting paid to write php and JavaScript
>>54380613
any website is vulnerable to any kind of attacks
go back to your dead languages and compile faggot when you know shit about internet technologies
>>54382464
>This is what damages the reputation of a language.
>C has other powers.
oh boy it's like it's 1997 and we can only choose between PHP and C
you're a fucking retard if you honestly believe that the users of PHP are what gives PHP a bad name
the language is a terrible mess that not even subhumans deserve
>>54382631
>posts picture on internet
>must be true
>>54380577
Who cares when you're making $75k+ per year?
>>54382619
There are measures of protection:
> IP banning
> not letting someone fail at a login attempt more than 5 times
> "cloudflare"
> sanatizing user input in server side programs
> running server in chroot
>>54382643
http://news.php.net/php.internals/70691
I could source the others as well but I guess you can just do that yourself.
>>54382643
y not?
>>54382631
If you don't like it, then you can go
> Buy some land far away from any humaity
> Build a shed
> Live there, alone without internet or electricity
> Die
>>54382681
anon, did you know that there are lots of languages way more suited for web development than php or did the news just not get through to your designated shitting street yet?
>>54382672
"[...] when PHP was a tool just for my own [..]"
who cares what was in php when it wasn't used by more than one person.
>"I know 2 programming languages"
>"Oh cool, which ones?"
>"HTML and CSS"
>>54382695
No, I could've never thought of using other languages?
Naaah never
The newest webapps are written in assembler you know? Gotta need that blazing fast raw binary speed! Optimized for only one processor, but who needs more
kekekkeeekkee
>>54382708
You're aware that these core functions are still named exactly the same due to backwards compatability and all that stupid fucking shit Rasmus did because he's a fucking retard has carried on due to backwards compatability as well, right?
>>54380577
Yeah, I am a code artisan who codes in JS.
As long as I am writing algorithms, I am programming. As long as I am dealing with data structures, I am programming. As long as I'm automating computer routines, I'm programming. Stay mad, compiled fag. You're no different than any code monkey, except that the compiler does shit for you, while you think you're the shit for writing fizzbuzz in C.
The future belongs to JS and you gonna know nothing but deprecated languages soon.
Oh, when people ask me what I do they are impressed with the stuff I can show them. When they ask you, they're like uhm ok, so you're writing just another desktop program that nobody is going to use and spending months to finish it. And it's also going to look worse than a webpage. What? You're compiling your kernel? Wtf is that for? Whatever, dork.
>>54382728
top lel
>>54382643
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rasmus_Lerdorf
>>54380577
>Web OG since the late 90s
>Pay is greater than ever
>But /g/ will never acknowledge me or my skills
>i guess thats why php rules the internet and will rule long after other new and hip meme languages die out
>>54382631
John McCarthy said the same things about Lisp.
If Lerdorf was worse at writing parsers, he might have used S-expressions and the Lisp programmers would be calling it the best language since Scheme or Common Lisp.
>>54382743
Just like CAR and CDR, which had something to do with Fortran on the IBM 704.
>>54382644
That's only if you're a "web dev" web dev. University grad web devs working in software companies are "software engineer" web devs and make basically the same amount and the back end guys.
>>54382747
>The future belongs to JS
NO!
The future belongs to ALL languages
Think about it:
Do you write LOW LEVEL Programs in JS? No?
But in what language do you write a JS engine? JS -- hahahah NO FCKING NO!
>>54380577
There is nothing wrong with writing code in JavaScript. JavaScript has a lot of flaws for legacy purposes only, but that's really fine.
>>54382768
>new and hip meme languages
Like what?
What are hip(ster) languages?
I want to avoid them and laugh about people who use them, please gibe da languigs
>>54382785
Well only one company has to write the JS interpreter in C. Then everyone else can use JS.
>it can actually be used in the real world
>>54382387
>and this is a disatvantage?
No, but you've come to the cesspit of the internet's backdraft.
We conglomerating complaints aimlessly, exposure means fuel.
>>54380577
Can anyone actually explain why PHP is bad without having to Google anything?
>>54382778
Naming isn't the only issue. PHP is full of shit like that.
It's a terrible language compared to pretty much every single other major programming language.
>>54382819
> fast forward 50 years
> Man anon the JS interpreter that was written 50 years ago is so fucking slow with all our 250MB bloat JS
> Let's rewrite it
> in what language
> JS
> You can't do that
> Well do you know any other language
> no, do you?
> no, ... guess we're fucked
This will be the end of the era of computers
and then Skynet takes over and bombs everyone
>>54382815
Coffeescript maybe?
>>54382785
You can write low level JS.
>>54382870
That's a dumb example because your computer basically gets 2x faster every couple years and ram gets cheaper and higher capacity. So even if you don't ever touch it again it won't get slower.
>>54382860
That's a pretty arbitrary restriction, but I'll bite.
First, storing source code in your docroot is begging for trouble.
PHP also has a history of shit design, including strlen() being the original way of hashing functions and the whole magic_quotes fiasco
>>54382860
inconsistencies in pretty much every single area of the language
shitloads of black holes you can get sucked into despite being a high level language
slow as shit
terrible standard library full of stupid bullshit
lack of features and even only in PHP 7 getting features that languages have had since the 70s
>>54382889
>your computer basically gets 2x faster every couple years
>>54382921
>doesn't have a never obsolete eMachine
>>54382785
>>54382870
That never bothered the Lisp machine companies.
>>54382889
>your computer basically gets 2x faster every couple years
and you're the type of person who dowloads ram, aren't you?
>>54382889
> because your computer basically gets 2x faster every couple years
this is what singularityfags believe
>>54382978
>yfw spaceships will someday be written in JS
My career is looking good.
>>54382943
>>54382921
No I'm just thought that you guys upgrade your computers every couple of years like I do.
>>54380928
Learn some formal verification methods senpai, that's whaty course at uni is right now, I make perfectly correct code with predicate logic. Real comp sci
>>54383036
Maybe they won't be written neither in C nor in JavaScript (nor in Java, because then they would have massive lag)
Maybe there will be a new low level language . Let's call it Z (because A, B, C, D and so on).
> 2070; 4chan.world/g/
> Z is for fags
> Pff who needs low level if you have [insert hipster lang here]
>>54383036
Theres gonna be a point where we can only get a transistors so small and latency times down so much anon
>>54383036
Your career will look good if you are able to use multiple programming languages.
>>54383162
>nor in Java, because then they would have massive lag
how to spot a fucking retard
>>54383183
You know exactly what I mean
> eclipse
> netbeans
> shitty GUI apps
THERE IS LAG IN THESE APLLICATIONS
BUT
there also is a possibility to make it not lag
>>54383234
You're fucking stupid. Eclipse and Netbeans are laggy because they're shitty and bloated.
>>54383183
javas biggest issue rather than lag would be it's trash collecting mechanism halting stuff at odd points in time, atleast thats how i feel about it. i'm not exactly the most experienced with java but even then i'm sure there would be a work around.
>>54383069
not everything is testable.
shoulda learned that
>>54380577
>manage a dev team
>fucking autists argue all day about this
>>54380577
I'm actually glad of the popularity of the word 'coding', it let's you quickly work out who's a webdev babby who thinks fizzbuzz is advanced maths
>>54382655
>chroot
>security
Nigga use some proper visualisation
>make 150k as a webdev working at a startup in the bay
isght
>>54380613
Are you Indian or just retarded? Don't comment about something you have no idea about.
I actually prefer applications in browser than in windows
>>54383069
Oh that explains. You will understand how retarded you sounded after you get a real job. If your professor told you that you don't need unit tests, he is a fucking retard.
>>54386320
>windows
>Actually using Windows.
>>54382978
>Earth's ecology is on the brink of collapse
>mfw at the last second of Earth's life we figure out how to upload every human's consciousness to a supercomputer in a rocket ship.
I think interpreted languages are still programming. Markdown languages aren't though (html, css, etc)
i dont code in any language and im not a programmer
>C program
>Hard to learn
>easy to fuck up
>low resource usage
>must compile
>Node/JS/PHP
>pretty hard to fuck up.
>Javascript is familiar.
>Easier to learn
>slightly higher resource usage
>runs anywhere, no compilation needed
Which one do you choose?
>>54387214
>C
>Hard to learn
top
>Node/JS/PHP
>Javascript is familiar
kek
It seems like you're assuming everyone has learned JavaScript and never seen C before when you made these claims. C is also much easier to learn than JS, there's barely anything to C.
Acceptable languages:
C - for performance
ASM - if you need to optimize beyond the compiler
Scheme/Some other dialect of Lisp - for quick writing and portability
>>54387467
What a retard
>>54382785
actually, with the rise of LLVM, its not out of question to program everything with JS!
>he plugged in a video card
>he thinks he builds computers
What's an easy way to test your php, javascript, html together?
I've gone the Apache route but it's just such a huge pain in the ass to set up that kind of dev environment for something that should be so much more simple.
>>54382464
>scripts
>not programs
Dumbass
>>54388732
Technically yes
He is building computers using computer components
>>54382767
>caring what /g/ thinks
>>54388824
found the /v/tard
>>54382464
>only compiled binaries are programs
If you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, why are you participating in the discussion?
