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Arch Hate General.
Share your woes and your pain with arch and its archtistic users.
my only pain was not switching to it sooner
>>54352043
>>54352286
gentoo is superior.
>>54352292
>>54352315
>>54352329
>socialize
>socialize
>socialize
>SOCIALIZE
this makes arch seem like the better choice desu
>>54352329
>>54352469
>>54352362
>>>/r9k/
Yeah, humans are social animals. ArchLinux users are like gollum in his cave. Bilbo is a Debian user.
The only people who don't like Arch are those who are too stupid to install it.
Come up with new ideas for another arch comic faggot
>Archie accidentally gets a job
>they mix his name up with someone else
>First day on the job
>Our problem is our webserver is down and we need somebody to rewrite our apache conf files
>30 minutes later
>entire server is down
>What did you do?
>I replaced the pleb ubuntu you had with Arch Linux
>Did you back up all our databases
>What's backing up? I just reformat every 3 days since updates fuck everything over and then beg for my anime wallpaper online again.
>Yeah okay I think I remember how our old guy did this go fix all our end user's issues the floor below I may be able to set this back up
>4 hours later
>Why can nobody get online?
>I installed Arch Linux on all their laptops
>Took me a while but I used a script that I made which is now plebian tier because only scrubs use scripts true archturds know the install process by heart because they have to do it so much
>We'll have problems for a few days because nobody knows how the fuck to use all the ncurses based software I installed... oh fuck if they actually do then I won't be more pro than them. brb
>days pass of weird quantum fluctuations between installing ubuntu over their arch installs and him flipping shit because ubuntu isn't arch and reinstalling arch cycle repeats etc
>Everyone gets new keys except him and just hope he goes back home or something
>"Parents kicked me out weeks ago aaannnd kind of been living in a server rack I secretly threw out to give myself space let me know when you're hiring again"
Honestly, it is the best Distro if you're going to rice. The supurb package manager allows you to mindlessly install bloat, and the wiki tells you litterly everything so you don't have to think for yourself. Only problem is that occasionally pacman breaks SOMETHING. Arch is only good if you maintain the KISS policy and don't install too much bloat.
>>54352489
Shut the fuck off OP, you just don't realize how awesome Arch actually is. Fuck you
bmi 39
The AUR is a piece of shit. I have to rely on newbie developers to make sane PKGBUILDs? No thanks.
lmao at the butt mad windows users ITT (even though its just one poster)
>>54352043
Why do you feel the need to constantly make this thread? What drives this passionate hatred for Arch that you have? Could you not install it or what? If you need help installing it just ask.
>>54352799
I don't use Arch, but I'm guessing its autism.
It was hilarious seeing all the comics the first time I stumbled across this thread, but its just the same thing every day, without anything new, or even any variety.
>>54352667
Werks on my machine.
>+40 BMW with 2 friends irl
Not like the obese human fat container has anything better to do than this.
>>54352840
BMI*
>>54352043
>>54352286
>>54352292
>>54352315
>>54352329
>>54352469
>>54352489
>>54352586
>>54352556
>>54352538
Why do you hate arch so much? Have you ever even used it? I would like some explanation as to why you feel Arch Linux is so bad that it deserves a whole thread dedicated to hating on it?
>>54352857
He hasn't used it. He only used fedora when he boots into Linux
>>54352586
>Why do you hate arch so much?
It's homosexual like you.
>Have you ever even used it?
Booted it, realized it didn't have an installer, and deleted it.
>I would like some explanation as to why you feel Arch Linux is so bad that it deserves a whole thread dedicated to hating on it?
Because of its community of edgy le supreme neckbeards whose arrogance knows no bounds.
>>54352887
>>54352887
The only annoying faggot I see is lifeless pieces of shit like you.
>>54352894
>>54352905
Archfag is #triggered.
>>54352918
>>54352918
>le triggered xdddd
How does it feel having absolutely nothing to base your argument on?
>>54352939
Go take a shower fatty blob.
And stop samefagging, it's pathetic
>>54352939
>>54352942
I haven't even made an argument yet. You are so triggered right now.
>>54352956
I'm not samefaggig. I'm dumping.
>>54352556
Holy fuck I loled
>>54352959
That's beause you don't have one. And you are showing how God left you unfinished in your brain
>>54352968
No you are samefagging. Go hit the gym, obese faggot
>>54352887
>Booted it, realized it didn't have an installer, and deleted it.
So you couldn't install it
>>54353015
I've successfully installed FreeBSD before. I could have installed it, I just couldn't be bothered.
>>54353024
But you couldn't lmao
>>54353034
No, I just chose not to.
>>54353015
Why would you want to waste time installing something manually when you can install literally the exact same thing automatically?
>>54353041
Havana why are you even trying
You chose not to learn it
>>54353041
Because you didn't boot into the architect installer
>>54353054
There's nothing to learn you idiot. Text installing is just hitting enter over and over again and typing "yes" until it reboots.
>>54353060
I think that thing was already broken and buggy by the time I was trying Arch.
It's just not worth it. Ubuntu and Fedora offer more with less hassle.
>>54352857
Didn't make the thread but this behaviour appeals to me because it's a perfect example of what not do to. It's hilarious how the average arch user is basically a real life cartoon character, but it's computer related. I used to wonder as a kid how people get like this, ie really smart but so morbidly, catatonically bitter that no matter how great they are at something nobody will ever ever ever want to work with them because they are the biggest autists ever. I've read greek tragedies where a fictional character shot himself in the foot less. Just like every extremist in any field they go much too far with it and it's all just a game on who is the biggest loser and they take technology backwards by a factor of 30 years thinking that thousands of people are seeing their obscure terminal software setup that they spent months on trying to differentiate it from ubuntu users who got the same shit in 15 minutes but nobody fucking cares. Get the same hilarity from slackware and gentoo. The difference between technology autists from losers in other fields is that the scale is so much larger - they had to train for years to dropout and do this, train themselves to hate everything and everyone. Gun fucks and the retarded anti-car mechanics are losers but they eventually find some retarded group to fit in. Arch users and any extreme tech faggot anti-group are just so, so, so fucked on a whole extra level, every opportunity that comes their way is going to be pushed away as hard as possible for the most hyper-nitpick psuedo reasons and I can't get enough of watching it happen.
>tfw running on a 4 gb root partition
>school for $200 with a battery that lasts all week
How much more based can you get?
>>54353071
Except there is no install menu to press enter on
>>54353071
>I think that thing was already broken and buggy by the time I was trying Arch.
Wow this is what fatty blob's brain works. Really amazing
>>54353086
No shit. You type entries in and hit enter, just like on FreeBSD.
>>54352887
>Because of its community of edgy le supreme neckbeards whose arrogance knows no bounds.
says the person posting unprovoked hate towards a userbase who did nothing wrong to them.
>It's homosexual like you.
ad hominem: the post
>Booted it, realized it didn't have an installer, and deleted it.
so basically you couldn't figure out how to install it? this causes all your hate? if you need help just ask most people over at /flt/ are really helpful, they helped me get my arch up and running
>>54353125
Read my other posts. I know how to use text installers, but I already had working Linux distros so it wasn't worth my time.
>>54353112
>still trying
Holy shit retard, you are one of those dumb cucks who'll say writing things down is the same as pressing enter a few times
>>54353139
>Read my other posts
>anonymous image board
>>54353139
If you are actually as retarded as you pretend to be you should've already known it has no installers and you should be looking at antergos or architect
Don't newfags even do some pre research these days?
>>54352857
seems to be a few dedicated shitposters. I'm going to assume they don't give a damn about arch or it's users but see a community on the board that has some tension with other members and are trying to stir the pot.
t. shitposting enthusiat
arch user for the last 6 years
ask me anything
Fatty, fatty are you still here?
How are your remaining 2 friends (parents) ?
>>54353218
Been using arch for the last couple of years
Why do everyone hare manjarofags so much?
>40 BMI landwhale ran out of tendies
Wow this thread is pointless now
>>54353261
no idea, i don't keep up with the arch community at all
they're all a bunch of edgy children
Installed arch, didn't care for configuring every detail of my OS. Also didn't work well with Nvidia drivers.
>>54352538
>2016 AD
>humans are social animals
DOES NOT COMPUTE
>>54353329
>2016
>still using kde
>>54353405
Spotted the lowest beta gtk kuck
>>54353329
I bet your boss would fire you if he knew you were using KDE
>>54353083
All my friends use Arch on their personal rigs and they're all employed.
Friend that got me into Arch works at Swineburne Uni analyzing data from a square kilometer something rather in Africa doing something something pulsars.
Well, writing software to analyze the data.
He's 19 BTW.
>>54353423
Joke's on you I use Openbox bitch
>>54353041
>No, I just chose not to.
Can you even hear yourself?
And FreeBSD, that's all you got?
LMAO you haven't even installed gentoo, fuck off back to /v/
>>54353405
>>54353432
>GTK in 2016
>Breaks everything with every update
I'll stick to Qt
Tell me exactly one productive thing that Arch can do that I can't do on ANY other Linux distro.
Protip:You fucking can't,Arch is the cancer that drives people away from Linux.
>>54353471
>Protip:You fucking can't,Arch is the cancer that drives people away from Linux.
That went from 0 to 100 real fast
>>54353432
My boss is computer illiterate macfag
>>54353444
Hahn WMlets. Why do they even try
>>54353471
And here I wonder why we haven't driven you out yet
>>54353471
Arch makes me stick to Linux. Kill self
>>54353041
Get with the program faggot or get the fuck out.scre
>>54353494
The janitor is your boss
>>54353520
That looks like shit
>>54353515
Because I am a Windows user. I only use command only Linux (no distro,just fucking plain command) to unlock Xbox harddrives. (FATX can only be read with XboxHDM which is half Linux half FreeDOS)
>>54353516
neckbeard detected
>>54353423
>>54353469
>using the gui for anything but your web browser and maybe WM decorations
>>54353471
Don't you mean Ubuntu is the cancer that drives people away from Linux?
As far as distros go Arch has provided me with the most stable and logical experience. Ubuntu and Debian have given me nothing but pain coming from a background with Arch, everything eats a dick and dies if you try to do anything, but especially if you touch a config file because there's no options in the disgusting gimped GUI.
I've recently started working on a site with a friend and we've spent two whole days trying to get php and mysql running on an AWS Ubuntu box, and my friend's a professional sysadmin. Things that work OOTB on Arch just weren't happening on Debian or Ubuntu, and I mean I'd follow their guides if there was any, Arch seems to be the only documented distro.
I think it's the gimped cluster fuck OSes like Ubuntu and Debian that force you to go to blog posts for documentation that give people a bad image of Linux, not Arch.
Also the AUR, ABS and pacman are godly, everything is simple and easy if you've got half a brain.
>>54353544
>Uses windows
>Posts on /g/
kek
>>54353544
>54353544
Spotted /v/ spill
Go back >>>/v/
>>54352043
I updated Thunderbird and now my emails won't load.
Fuck this gay systemd-OS, I'm going to install Gentoo once I get a new hard drive.
>>54353578
Fedora or OpenSUSE are better than Arch
>>54353607
>he doesn't use kmail
'> current year
>>54353578
Fuck, wrong screenshot
>>54353582
It's been 4 years since I post on /g/,on Windows.
>>54353578
>Don't you mean Ubuntu is the cancer that drives people away from Linux?
Tell me exactly how much people in this world would have half the brain to install Arch. Okay,maybe Ubuntu is bloated. But plain Debian?That ain't bloated at all,wtf.
>>54353601
>Geforce 8500GT 256MB
>thinks I do /v/
>2015+1
u wot m8
>>54353617
Not every one likes to be the beta cucks for red had prajeets
>>54353620
That's what you get for not using KDE
>>54353649
>KDE
It's like you never heard of XFCE,holy shit.
>>54353635
>Okay,maybe Ubuntu is bloated. But plain Debian?That ain't bloated at all,wtf.
With an SSD any operating system is going to load in less than 10 seconds. The argument that something is bloated so it should not be used is becoming less important.
>>54353664
>XFCE
BLOAT
>>54353674
>KDE user talking about bloat
>>54353677
Do you know how smooth tearfree screen feel like?
>>54353635
>Tell me exactly how much people in this world would have half the brain to operate a computer, who's gonna figure out that you can drag around these windows
It's literally, fdisk, mount, pacstrap, locale, bootloader, umount, reboot
I've dropped all my normie friends looking to move into Linux into Arch with Gnome and they're loving it, most of them say they love hitting enter when they're in the CLI and they all love the AURs package selection, one of my friends is even moving himself to i3, and he was shit with computers a couple months ago.
also
>debian isn't bloated
It's not toooooooo bad, but apt-get makes me want to an hero
>>54353684
Debian makes people suicide, it's a proven fact
>>54353469
>running any kind of server on arch
>thinking the AUR is actually good
>having to review every AUR makepkg
>having problems running LAMP server on ubuntu/debian
>Not using CentOS
I thought this was meant to be a technology board, faggot.
God I hate gtk. Absolutely disgusting
>>54353665
You're forgetting about ease of management
>>54353665
>SSD
Okay,but regardless,what's with people pushing the idea that Ubuntu is bloated? Fucking hell,just convert it to Xubuntu and then remove Unity and its dependencies,and you're done.
Also it will be a lot faster. I have a Centrino laptop that runs Xubuntu and XP SP3 in dual boot (I use XP SP3 for programming PIC chips and reflashing USB drives through AlcorMP)
and before the conversion to XFCE,Unity lagged like fuck,even though I had a boatload of RAM in this laptop.
>>54353684
>It's not toooooooo bad, but apt-get makes me want to an hero
apt-get is way simplier and nicer than pacman,and I don't have to worry that people see me as some h4xx0r in public when the only thing I would do is install something through Xubuntu's terminal window.
Also
> one of my friends is even moving himself to i3
weeb detected,go back to your desktop circlejerking thread. Only weebs use i3,fucking hell.
>>54353736
>CentOS
Not him,but I had it. It's pretty hard unless you know which does what. What about Mandriva and Mandrake?
>>54353736
Debian on servers
Arch on desktops because godly AUR
Deal with it
>>54353578
How the fuck do you still have trouble setting up a webdev stack
>>54353766
>Arch
install gentoo
How about you lose 50 pounds fat ass, you take care of that bmi and then you could do actually go outside and make more friends.
>>54353775
Lol when I want Kate installed, I want it to be there within a minute. I won't wait until tomorrow
>>54353329
If anyone wantshis background
>>54353736
I'll assume you were aiming for >>54353578 (me)
>>running any kind of server on arch
I wasn't suggesting Arch for it, merely pointing out how shit the alternatives are (even if they are more secure and stable [marginally])
>>thinking the AUR is actually good
>I've never tried the AUR
>>having to review every AUR makepkg
See above
>>having problems running LAMP server on ubuntu/debian
First MariaDB stock was spawning threads till it was killed then wordpress was causing PHP to hang. I have no fucking idea
>>Not using CentOS
I'll look into it if Arch ever gives me a reason to, because honestly I can't imagine anything better than this
>>54353769
See above
>>54353760
>apt-get is way simplier and nicer than pacman
DUDE STOP I'M DYING OVER HERE
>weeb detected,go back to your desktop circlejerking thread. Only weebs use i3,fucking hell.
t. Never Seriously Tried i3
Using anything other than tiling just feels retarded
>h4xx0r in public when the only thing I would do is install something through Xubuntu's terminal window.
>Arch can't run a DM
>DMs or the ability to install one has any correlation to package managers
>>54353766
This DESU
Niggas you guys need to chill.
Gentoo is your answer
>>54353813
>Never Seriously Tried i3
>Using anything other than tiling just feels retarded
Ever used Openbox?
>not liking apt-get
It's like you never used it. It automatically retrieves its repository,unlike Arch.
People that use Arch think they're h4xx0rz just because they think pacman is so advanced (it really isn't,instead it's fucking retarded) and that using Arch makes them so important in public. Please,get out of the Internet,your kind doesn't even belong here. Also,Arch needs to be constantly updated,while Debian and its derivatives (Ubuntu and such) don't need that.
>>54352887
Wintard here- been on the botnet all my life.
You didn't even fucking try? Nigger I don't even consider myself computer literate and even I managed to get it installed on the second try with the help of the wiki. It's not THE hardest thing in the world.
Though, that said, I do like my installers. After the third time of restarting the install on my VM, I gave up and installed Debian and had it working much faster.
Arch would be much nicer if it came with a default installer, for sure. But that's unlikely to happen. Too much bloat on the ISO!
(Also, youre a disgrace to us all and I hope Something Happens (something happens) to your computer.)
>>54353908
MY CRACKA!
Way to lay the boot to the big nigga
>>54353908
> remove Libre office
> also remove DM as well
El apt-get
>>54353942
> remove Libre office
> also remove DM as well
>El apt-get
No wonder you're stupid. apt-get CLEARLY lists the packages to uninstall when asked to,and you could just remove EVERYTHING related to Libre,except only the packages which are required to run the DM. But since you're so much of a retarded monkey,I'd doubt you Arch faggots know that.
>>54353908
>needs to be updated
What?
You can update if you want to, it's rolling release.
"Rolling Release" means there's not fucky versions and you just update shit when you feel
>>54353908
>It automatically retrieves its repository
What are you even on about?
pacman caches repos to save time, if you wanna update you just run pacman -Sy, makes a lot of sense to me
If you want to download a package and "retrieves repo" then just
pacman -Sy i3 or whatever
>pacman is so advanced
We never said that, it's an extremely well written and flexible tool that works a dream
I bet you've never built a package
On Arch you're a wiki page a way and everything's logical and easy, took me 20 min first time to build packages for my software, my server system at home has it's own repo and writing package builds takes seconds
Debian's just a cluster fuck time sink that has you hopping from blog post to blog post with no official sources to speak of (when I tried)
I gave up after two hours
>>54353929
I already had 2 Linux VMs. I wasn't going to spend 30 minutes setting up a 3rd one I didn't need.
>>54353983
>clearly
Niqqa it shoves walls of texts at you and you know it
>>54353983
Nice time sink package manager there
I'll stick to something that works better
>>54354000
>took me 20 min first time to build packages for my software
And it took me 3 minutes to install a already built package for my software through apt-get.
Your arguments are invalid.
>pacman -Sy i3 or whatever
sudo apt-get install i3
>"Rolling Release" means there's not fucky versions and you just update shit when you feel
Then how come updates are more frequent than Windows?
>>54354035
>walls of texts
>implying I can't just write clear and it disappears
Really nigga?
>>54353438
>He's 19 BTW.
>>>/reddit/
Also not impressive. May as well just posted his IQ
Arch is pretty good, i use logos.
Its probs got a bitcoin miner in it since i got it from a magnet link some rando posted
>>54354074
Holy shit you are really bad at damage control
>>54354074
>Then how come updates are more frequent than Windows?
>I don't know anything about Arch or its release model
>And it took me 3 minutes to install a already built package for my software through apt-get.
Takes me half that in Arch and besides that doesn't excuse it's package building system from being a cluster fuck
>Your arguments are invalid.
...
>sudo apt-get install i3
>wait 5 mins to sync from online repos instead of half second local DB search
>good
Truly pathetic
Oyasumi, retard
>>54354113
>wait 5 mins to sync
What kind of internet do you have that it's so slow? It takes me 2-3 seconds at best to sync from online repos.
>>54354113
>that doesn't excuse it's package building system from being a cluster fuck
Again:
>clean
>press enter
>everything goes away like nothing happened
>>>/out/,retard
>>54352894
why is this so fucking accurate?
>>54354092
>i use logos.
this was actually finished?
>>54354092
War me please kid
Lets get it on
>>54354151
Lessons from experience
>>54354140
2 to 3 completely wasted seconds
and I don't think that's what he meant by build system
>>54354140
Clean? Are you being serious? Do you even use Linux for more than an hour per month?
Gentoomen just sitting back laughing at all you faggots trying to flex yourselves
>>54354151
it takes about 15 minutes to install arch. if you cant copy paste a couple of commands then maybe you should head back to /v/
>>54354166
>2 to 3 completely wasted seconds
On HDD. On SSD though...
>>54354170
Yes,I do use Linux.
>>54354172
>not using Red Hat
>>54354173
>takes about 15 minutes to install arch
>tfw it takes much less to install Ubuntu
Ubuntu is faster and you know it
>>54354173
Doesn't even need copy pasting, all the commands are standard everyday stuff
>>54354172
Having a high IQ comes with it's pros and cons. For instance, i do perfectly fine while only half paying attention to what i'm doing in Arch and other logic based subjects, but when it comes to religion i can't even begin to understand how anyone would believe a damned thing
>>54354179
>2016
>still using Red Hat
You ain't on par kid
You ain't good enough
>>54354179
>tfw arguing with a red hat prajeets all along
No wonder you are so cringey
lol at arch users who think their distro requires some esoteric skillset. Arch was my very first experience with linux and anyone with a 90 IQ and too much time on their hands could manage to install and maintain it.
>>54354188
>typical Archfag trying to flex his "high IQ" yet fragile emotion structure.
>>54354191
>still using Red Hat
>being such a faggot to not know that Red Hat still exists
>>54354196
Fedora,do you know it? I guess not,since you don't know about GLORIOUS Red Hat.
>>54354211
>paying for a distro
>>54354220
>implying I ever paid for Windows and didn't crack it in every way
>thinks I'd pay for Red Hat when I can torrent the fuck out of it
u mad? Problem?
>>54354228
>needing to use windows to torrent cause he's incapable of following a guide to install either Gentoo or Arch
>u mad
Flex s'more kid
>put in debian ISO
>input information in a few prompts
>let the Debian installer run
>20 minutes pass
>come back to a fully functional system
>browse web, edit documents, listen to music
>feelsgood.mp3
On arch:
>reading the wiki
>follow instructions for manual install
>reading the wiki
>reading the wiki, typing what it says
>following the wiki
>hours pass
>install complete
>login:
>install X
>X won't start
>reading the wiki
>troubleshoot X
>visit the forums
>youstupidfuck.jpg
>reading the wiki
>fix X
>reading the wiki, install SLiM
>install awesomewm
>troubleshoot why awesomewm won't start
>missinglibraries.PNG
>install gtk2, qt, KDE
>reading the wiki
>awesomewm starts
>default config, bare desktop
>sungoingdown.mp4
>reading the wiki trying to configure RC.Lua
>downloading scripts
>battery indicator!
>wifi won't start
>reading the wiki
>troubleshoot wifi
>2AM
>system barely usable
>go to sleep
>install Debian in the morning
>>54354239
>needing to use windows to torrent
uTorrent was made for Android as well. Thus,I can also use my phone to torrent it.
>>54353766
>AUR
>shitty PKGBUILD
And once they said Ubuntu was for noobs...
ubuntu server is comfy
>>54354253
But I learned how Linux actually works by copying and pasting from the wiki!
>>54354261
>ubuntu
Why not just use Windows? Basically same spoonfeeding OS.
>>54354270
because i don't like windows
>>54354270
That's the stupidest thing I've ever read.
>>54354270
NOOBUNTU IS BLOAT USE BLOATED ARCH INSTEAD
Fedora is the greatest.
>>54354292
>>54354305
>>54354312
You're god damn right
>>54354253
You invest a day in Arch and it treats you well for a lifetime
>mfw arch actually had an installer and they dropped it to be even edgier
>>54354331
Until they roll GTK+3.20 to screw all your Qt apps theme.
>>54354356
Girl turn me on
Til' the early morn'
lets get it on
>>54354376
>gnome devs are retarded
>new gtk3 infamous for breaking themes
>hurrdurr arch
Lol, OP couldnt install arch
what a scrub
I installed arch on my notebook 2 weeks ago, i didnt believed those arch memes til i tried it.
It worked on my computer for a day, after i tried to install nvidia drivers for it.
> sudo nvidia-xconfig
> reboot
> x is gone
> tty1 -> replace the backup configs for xorg conf
> after it worked but i still dont have drivers
after a week removed from my computer, i dont want an os which cant use the full resources of my computer and i dont want to waste more time on it.
Arch deserves the hate mostly for having the worst user base of ANY Linux distro since the beginning of time
Don't you faggots get that you are giving Linux a bad name?
>>54356207
people complaining about arch are worse than actual arch users tbqh.
>>54355791
>> sudo nvidia-xconfig
i did not want to be rude but this thread is full of retards
regarding the user base of the concerned distro since the beginning of time you may be right but I have not seen it myseft
shame on you for the bulk of angry cringy and disgusting comments come from posters against archlinux
>>54356224
Only an Arch user would say this.
>>54353813
Ignore the retarded normie... Using anything but i3 is fucking backwards...
>>54356423
I use windows 10
I'm just going to report these threads for SPAM from now on. You guys should do the same. Because it is SPAM -- It's always the same, with no real discussion or any actual arguments.
>alright, gonna see what all the fuss is about and install this shit
>first boot up with latest ISO image
>keyboard doesn't work, at all
never again
>>54353083
You don't like an operating system, because you don't like what you imagine its average user looks like?
>>54354253
This was exactly my experience with Arch as well desu. I'm not even hating, I can see what's good about arch, but honestly.
>Wifi refuses to werk, no fucking clue why, tried systemctl enable/start all my interfaces
>My laptop touch controls are fucked up beyond saving, wifi button enables airplane mode. What the actual fuck. But then again there is no wifi anyway
>Touchpad doing some crazy shit, installing synaptics fixed it though.
That's what I came through before I wiped arch off my hdd and installed Xubuntu in it's place. Maybe some other time.
This story probably doesn't describe actual Arch users, but maybe someone here will find it entertaining. Apparently somebody "recruited" my brother.
He's the first person I've met in real life who wanted to use Arch, and his logic was "Linux is about programming it yourself!" despite knowing no programming languages. This is just him a decade after his "I'm going to make an MMORPG!" that lead to nothing, not even an education in programming. He once tried to convince me he was going to learn how to hack people's facebook accounts with the VIEW PAGE SOURCE button on Firefox. I remember he just made a hand jester showing me a page of the text saying he was "going to learn all that!" (Protip: He didn't.) He was also the last person in my direct family to stop using Internet Explorer, thinking everyone in our family were just being edgy about "hating Microsoft products." (Because buying their shitty Consoles and using their operating system and not their single-tab browser was being a hater.)
I haven't heard anything about his Arch Linux experience, but I assume it hasn't happened because he got money back in taxes and immediately bought a gaming PC and a light up USB mousepad. Then he needed money, and quit his job and threw a tantrum in the restaurant he washes dishes in. I'm never going anywhere in life either, but I still feel smug knowing he has so many fucking kids that he's never going to be able to both support his family and learn any programming languages on minimum wage.
Do Arch users have shitheads like this on their forums? I can't tell if Arch users go around trying to convince people who aren't tech savvy at all to try Arch Linux or if the buzzwords like "bleeding edge" attract retards. Ubuntu seems to always have some asshats making threads and then getting upset that nobody responded within an hour solving their issue as if though everyone who posts is getting paid money to work tech support.
>>54352894
It's more like you can chose how much chlorine you want in your pool and what color the tiles should be.
Also, if you want you can tell the workers to build a winter garden instead of a pool.
>>54355254
lol at arch users who think their distro requires some esoteric skillset. Arch was my very first experience with linux and anyone with a 90 IQ and too much time on their hands could manage to install and maintain it.
>>54356827
This
>>54356942
All I can tell you is that, believe it or not, there is a real world outside of 4chan and /g/, and these weird, idiotic stereotypes you people keep propping up don't actually exist. They just don't.
If someone sees you using your distro of choice on a laptop in public somewhere, some fat fedora-clad neckbeard isn't going to jump out of the shadows at you and scream "Install Gentoo!" while waving around his FSF sticker covered Thinkpad.
There isn't some pasty lardass cabal of Arch users who won't deign to talk to you just because they see you're using something other than Arch.
I use Arch, and have never met anyone who gave a single fuck, fellow Arch user or not. If nothing else, they were just interested in meeting another Linux user. Yeah, some of them were overweight and more than a little pale. Some of them were pretty fit people with careers in IT or related fields. None of them were some bizarre stereotype cooked up on places like /g/ so little kids can have a strawman to prop up for their pointless, tribal "OS wars" bullshit.
>>54359269
>I use Arch, and have never met anyone who gave a single fuck, fellow Arch user or not
It's not socially acceptable to call you a faggot irl. That's why we have the Internet. Now kill yourself
>>54359362
Yeah, and more to the point, there's a whole Internet outside of places like 4chan and /g/. An Internet where "kys faggot le le le le xD" and "kek install gentoo!" aren't the norm.
I also get the impression that whether or not something is socially acceptable IRL is the least of your worries. Rather, calling someone a faggot IRL is liable to get your ass beat to a pulp, so I imagine that's the actual deterrent and not some respect for social graces.
As an aside, if you're too much of a coward to say anything to anyone IRL then why do you matter at all? At that point, you're not even a stereotype. You're just a nobody.
>>54359454
>Rather, calling someone a faggot IRL is liable to get your ass beat to a pulp
Maybe that is a concern for someone with noodle arms like you. Fucking faggot archtard
>>54353471
Stay close to the upstream without forcing you to compile everything like an autist
>>54360912
Mfw fedora is more bleeding edge than arch
>>54360802
>>54352043
>tfw arsch linux broke my cinnamon-session today and I was unable to do anything after logging in
>tfw I was able to remove the packages responsible for this issue thanks to the pacman log
>inb4 >cinnamon
>>54363366
>>tfw I was able to remove the packages responsible for this issue thanks to the pacman log
So you broke it? But good on you for knowing your way around arch and being able to restore the system to a working state. That's also partly what Arch is about imho, being comfortable with fixing issues that arise (in the rare cases that they actually do)
>>54363411
Is it really my fault when packages from the community repo break my DE?
>rare
>gtk
>themes
>>54352043
Nice meme, here's the actual rundown
> someone on /g/ has trouble installing OS
> Runs back to /g/ to shitpost about how bad OS is and how its users are autistic
Every time
>>54363439
How is that Arch's fault? Are the arch devs responsible for gtk3.20?
> Is it really my fault when packages from the community repo break my DE?
Also yes. You can't expect every package to be 100% compatible with every other package -- ESPECIALLY the community repo. But whatever, it's up to you.
>>54363450
This is what it comes down to:
>>54354253
>On arch:
You just described installing Gentoo minus the community berating you for your choices instead of helping if you post on the forums or ask a question on IRC.
Help me, /g/.
Last night I got drunk and... well. Look what fucking happened. Mom was right! I'm just like my old man!
I'm in a dark way, senpai.
>>54352489
I don't get it
>>54363515
kek. I really need to try XFCE4, this looks really neat. Better than my current KDE at least imho.
Any general tips? Do I install xfce4-goodies too?
I find arch fine.
It suits my needs. However, I don't think any less of anyone that uses another distro or OS for that matter.
Just use and enjoy your tech!
>>54352857
He can't, all he has is memes
>>54363555
Like I said
Memes
>>54356827
>>54359224
Holy fuckin' shit, this is hilarious. I've never had this happen, but I'd laugh my ass off.
>>54354253
Sorry that you're retarded. Keep trying though maybe you will be able to computer more than my grandma one day
>>54354201
>lol at arch users who think their distro requires some esoteric skillset
arch user here, this is precisely the funny part, arch is not that hard and still all this sour grapes threads appears, they're the ones with an inferiority complex and they project it on arch users.
>>54358919
inferiority complex detected
>>54363656
I haven't read anyone on /g/ so far claim: "I needed really leet Linux skills to configure my system". The most I read is "I want to become a bit more familiar with Linux, so I went with Arch" -- which is as good a reason as any.
People who claim otherwise are really just insecure it seems, you are right.
>>54354201
You don't need anything but reading comprehension, familia. I'm not saying you have to, but why not give it another shot with a more open mind?
>>54352043
Heh, enjoy your noobuntu spyware.
>>54363717
the worst part is that there's barely any decent argument, most of the argument's are memes and most if not all of this threads are name calling threads, ok it's fine if (even if it's childish) they do it for fun but even i sometimes doubt on that, some posts has too much salt in them and they don't manage to state a good reason on why they feel like that.
>>54363541
Yeah, install goodies.
XFCE can best be described as MATE, but... you know... with a point?
XFCE and gnome2 ran neck and neck for years before gnome3/shell hit the scene, one always being the lighter version of the other.
Since then, XFCE has incorporated a lot of the features of gnome2/MATE and in my opinion, replaced it.
XFCE is fucking awesome, and the next version will have gtk3 support finally!
>>54363796
Awesome, thanks. I really like your desktop, looks very clean and stylish.
>>54363808
Thank you! Oh, btw. When using XFCE at least for now, only gtk2 themes will work until 4.14 is released.
My favorite setup is either 4dyne(a xfce port of the dyne theme for openbox) and/or the numix theme suite with faenza for the icon suite.
out of the box::
text editor - mousepad
file manager - thunar
archive manager - xarchiver or squeeze
terminal - xfce4-terminal
calendar/time - orage
network manager - no default!!! use wicd-gtk or gnome's network manager
Oh, and use compton for compositing.
http://duncanlock.net/blog/2013/06/07/how-to-switch-to-compton-for-beautiful-tear-free-compositing-in-xfce/
>>54363884
Thanks, will keep this in mind. About the GTK2 themes: I don't quite follow. What about applications that use GTK3? Wouldn't they rely on the GTK 3.0 theme settings? Or do you mean the desktop environment in general only supports GTK2 themes currently -- but applications that natively use GTK3 work with it of course?
>>54363515
I want to fuck your laptop
>>54363914
They "work".
Some of them can be a bit iffy. I installed gedit to show you how one might look as an example but since I don't use file-roller or any other gtk3 program, it's not really a problem.
Just avoid the mainstream gnome programs that come with gnome3 and you'll be fine.
Alright, thanks!
>>54363914
gedit in xfce4
>>54364041
I can't quit tell what's wrong with it -- since I never really used gedit unfortunately. But I assume it should show line numbers etc.?
I use Sublime Text 3 / PyCharm anyways, so no worries. Thanks for the heads up however.
>>54364041
Oh you probably meant the strange border heh
>>54363498
Top kek
>>54363740
I've used it. If I wanted something like arch I'd use gentoo, which I've had a much more positive experience with. I'm lazy these days and just use fedora
>>54363796
Yeah XFCE is currently the only proper desktop, again. Cinnamon is not so bad, but hey, it offers literally nothing over XFCE.
LXQT is not developed, half-written, half-done shit. Mate is a joke. LXDE is no more. Then there is Gnome.. I mean come on now...
KDE 3 was full, complete.
Then KDE 4 came, fucked shit up.
KDE 4 started to mature.
Then KDE 5 came and fucked shit up.
>>54364095
Now write a patch that fixes the gtk file picker and you just saved the Linux desktop.
>>54356827
>using gaymen keyboards
christ anon
>>54358919
that is exactly why you'll be called a retard when you fail to install it like op
>>54356827
What if you replug the keyboard?
This shit happens to both my mouse and keyboard on every platform.
It was horribad with my cheapo Razer Lachesis shit mouse long time ago.
Like back then I had to replug it after every boot on any OS, it was that fucking bad.
Now my Kana V2 still does this, but very, very rarely.
And the Rival 100 too, again, very rarely only.
>>54354253
I really, really miss Sidux.
> Debian sid
> with filtered sid packages - unstable/unusable packages kept out
> tool to keep your gpu driver updated with the new kernels
> tool that helped you read the upgrade warnings, etc
> fucking fresh yet stable
> daily fuckton amount of updates, all good
> fresh kernel as soon as a new release was out
It was the best distro I ever used.
Not even kidding.
There was a name change to "Aptosid" but now it's all dead.
>>54358919
Keep in mind that the installer and quality of distro really went downhill since then.
Years ago you had an installer like Debian's, guided you through, and you ended up with a usable base system.
It was comfy, fast, nice.
Now it's all "uber haxxor" like. It's gotten worse by a thousand times.
> inb4 you suck and you cant install it and whatever
I can, but it's still shit.
>>54352538
Who's gandalf then?
>>54365584
Sidux was the shit.
Also even on my old shitty desktop it installed in under 4 minutes. I've never had a full OS install that ridiculously fast.
Other than aptosid there is also siduction but its just not the same and the community seems dead. Sidux used to have fairly active forums...
I miss it.
>>54365466
But I am OP
>>54365983
then why are you mad at a distro?
>>54366004
I'm not. I'm rustling its users. Welcome to 4chan, kiddie
>>54366140
b, perhaps. but what you're saying is you're essentially a manchild?
>Installs arch to not be bloated
>Installs a DE
KEK
>Installs arch to not be bloated
>Installs openbox
>Bloated themes / rice
>firefox
>Not wget
k e k
>>54366169
Please don't shitpost, pajeet
>>54366186
i'd argue it isn't really bloat if you want it there
the whole point is to only install what you want, no?
>>54366217
>said op of shitpost general
>>54365401
>>54365491
It was a standard US laptop keyboard on a Thinkpad T61.
>>54366299
You're killing me, pajeet!
Reposting this:
"After every Arch update, something happens to my programs and they stop working. I then have to google and search for hours and sometimes days just to fix something that the Arch update changed.
There will be very few people on this planet who actually enjoy, has the time or will want to put up with that kind of crap.
It took me well over a month just to learn how to use it, coming to Linux from scratch. I still can't wrap my head around it. Why do I have to be connected to the internet just to be able to function with this OS at all? Why is it that if I don't update regularly things will break? What If I have a 3 month holiday? I don't want to freaking reinstall the whole thing all over again.
It's also SLOWER than my windows 7. Yes, SLOWER. My Arch install has no GUI at all and Windows 7 does. Explain that? I came to Arch expecting everything to be freaking instant because it needs no GUI or resources. Lies, it's bloody slower. I've tested it. Open a picture or video on my windows machine, or a game. Instant. Open browser? Instant. Arch... waiting for 3 seconds.
I thought I loved technology, after using Arch I'm just not so sure anymore. I've always hated programming and looking at tedious walls of text and problem solving. That's all it really is at the end of the day. I like using a completed a final product to do what I want to do.
I'm not an expert on fonts or what looks good for an interface for the OS. I don't freaking know what colors fonts should be. There's too much crap to think about. Stuff like font I just want an acceptable default...
Freaking hate Arch..."
>>54352840
Arch users are usually professionals, so it makes sense that they'd own 40 BMW's.
>>54367579
>Arch users are usually professionals
No
Does manjaro work better or is it about the same?
>>54367789
Unstable garbage.
So about the same
>>54367789
>>54367808
>>54367461
>My Arch install has no GUI at all and Windows 7 does.
>Open a picture or video on my windows machine, or a game. Instant. Open browser? Instant. Arch... waiting for 3 seconds.
Might be a little tough to open up that image without a GUI.
>>54367857
>he doesn't use cacaview
shiggy diggy doo
>>54367896
>hey my ascii image viewer doesn't open this jpeg as fast as my image viewer opens it
And then there's the browser part.
>>54367927
>not using lynx
>>54364041
>>54363515
Wallpaper please?
>>54367969
Here you go
>>54367969
here's a real one
>>54368021
You're good people anon
>>54367823
>>54367808
I kek'd
I've actually had more broken Ubuntu packages than Arch packages. I've had to troubleshoot a couple AUR packages but I like pacman a lot more than apt-get. The install is a bit of a process, but once everything is running smoothly it's golden.
I even have grub configured to dual boot with Win7, which is only for gaymen and testing bullshit for shitty support job. Am I some strange outlier? I told my coworker I run Arch as my standard distro and he looked at me like I'm an evil wizard.
